Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: pay or tag Purdy?, onside kick rule change, Hue Jackson headed to GSU

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the San Francisco 49ers saying they are motivated to get a deal done with QB Brock Purdy and debate if they should pay or tag him. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss the NFL will consider replacing the onside kick with an alternative proposal where teams would get one down to convert a 4th-and-20, and if they get 20 yards, then they would maintain possession of the ball, Hue Jackson headed to Georgia State as their new OC and much more!03:13 - 49ers11:41 - Joe Milton III responds to angry Pats fans15:05 - NFL looking into onside kick rules change28:20 - Hugh Jackson to Georgia St31:36 - Spell-O-Cinco41:14 - Dunk on Unc49:50 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He's already been playing on minimum waves. I hate saying it like that because it is it. Baltimore upset. They didn't care about upsetting Lamar. I mean, I just said, oh, they upset him. They didn't hate him though. But they franchise to be played on the franchise tag. Oh, that was, that was the best.

Right. He sure did. Yeah. But you know, they have, hey, you know, I know a lot of teams kicking themselves in the butt. Yeah. Hey, Atlanta Falcons, that 180 that you gave, what you call them, you could put another 40 million that gave that to Lamar Jackson.

Now, can you imagine Lamar Jackson in Atlanta? Oh, my goodness. We'll never know. We'll never know. We'll never know. Unless you plan. That would have been the second coming to Michael B. Oh, yeah. That would have been the second.

Oh, can you imagine him on that turf in that building? Man, that's it. Man, there'd have been so many. So there'd have been just as many eights jerseys as there were seven. Yeah. At the apex of Mike B. Yeah, that's, that's, that's Lamar Jackson in Atlanta.

They would have been cooking, boy. They would have been cooking. Woo! That's what you hear in North America, because he is a raven, but. Yeah, and he's only gonna be a raven. He ain't be any. No. He's gonna have a statue statue out front just like Ray Lewis.

He's going to be the greatest Raven in NFL and Raven history. Yeah. And they've had some great ones. You know, you got rain, you got off that you got read, you got so. But Lamar Jackson is going to go down to the greatest Raven ever. Yeah. But I think back to the Perttu situation, you know, good and well, they franchise in the period. Wety situation, you know, good will they franchise in purty? You know that okay, you know, come on now come on now, you know, they I'm not trying this

I'm trying I'm trying to keep it cute here, you know good well, they not franchising purty, you know, maybe they won't they gonna take care of They don't they gonna take care. I'm just even at that. They don gonna take care of it. They gonna take care of it. I'm gonna just leave it at that. They gonna take care of it. And they should. But the question is, Ocho, the question. Yeah. He's been to an NFC championship, he's been to two NFC championship games.

Super Bowl. He's been to a Super Bowl. This year had a lot of injuries. What's the number? Are we putting him at 55 to 60 million, or are we somewhere between 35 and 45 million? That's the question. I don't think the question is the deal.

I think it's the number in the deal. Right. I say 30, 45. 30, 45 range. I'm not sure what his agent may be thinking of what his agent wants to do, but knowing an agent, the agent wants to get as much as possible. Oh yeah, they try to, because everybody's trying to reset the market. I'm sure.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, let's slow down a little bit. Now we talk about rock, we ain't talking about reset the market type quarterback now. now All I know is hold on. He's done something Dak Prescott has never done been to an NFC championship game going to the soubo that got 60 So what's your argument for Perlin not to get 62? I? Just want to hear it Hey, listen It when it comes in negotiations if they go in there with that and put on the table and say it just like that Right there don't people and slap that down slap that down On brother Lynch's desk and what you gotta see it, but you got no argument you

You have no argument but listen as as a football person as a football person that understands the game and understand the different positions You know Rob pretty not a $60 million quarterback. And I mean that with no disrespect. All I know is the market says I am. Okay. Okay. Look at all the guys that got 55 million and above. Right.

How many of them have been to an NFC championship game? Uh, that guy 60 million, he's never had. Right. Uh, uh, uh, what's the guy in Jacksonville? Trevor Lawrence he's never had. Right. What's the guy in Jacksonville? Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence, he never had. Two of them, he never had. So.

When you think about it, when you think about a quarterback making that kind of money, 60 million or above, you're looking at a quarterback that you say to yourself, well, you know what, even with the injuries that have happened around me, my quarterback, his play can elevate everybody else. Yes.

When everybody is here, his play is still playing at that elevated level. So what goes on around him doesn't matter because we're paying him $60 million and he can do what Patrick Mahone would do. Let me ask you a question. If he can play well in moments when it matters. No, no, no, no, no, you can't, but let me ask you a question. If he can play well in moments when it matters. No, no, no, no, no. You can't, you, but let me ask you this.

If I took, if I took, if I took, if I took Chase from Burrow, you still believe he can get him to the AFC Championship game? I'm just, I'm gonna leave him T. Higgins. I'm gonna leave him everybody else, but I'm taking Chase. It'd be a little bit more difficult. It'd be a little bit more difficult. Okay. Because where you're going to get the production from? You have to be that more creative offensively and trying to fill out the production that Chase would give you if he was on the field. So how do you jazz off of the coordinate? That makes his job that much more difficult. You gotta get the production from

somewhere that Chase would give you on the offense. And he said, well, well why you trying to tell me I didn't elevate my play tell me other than Patrick Mahone who could I rest my case I mean cuz that's my argument if I'm his agent right I'm saying you telling me well you know this guy he lost to one Jennings he'll I mean Jennings was out for a game or two I think are you went down early this seasonnings was out for a game or two, I think. Ayup went down early in the season. He was lost for a few seasons. Lost church fans. We lost McCaffrey.

We lost Mason. We lost Burindu for a game. OK. From Williams to the game. D-Bow would then consist of this year. Yeah. We ended up losing McTrent.

So I'm just trying to figure out other than my homes. Now, Josh Allen makes a compelling case because he lost his two top receivers. So I'm just trying to figure out other than my homes. Now, Josh Allen makes a compelling place because he lost his two top receivers. And you see where he got them in the playoff. Yeah. Yeah. So Josh Allen, agent, and they're about to do a big deal with him.

He's probably gonna get 285, 300 million. Whoop. Josh Allen. He just got paid, huh? He about to get paid again. Already? Yes. He got paid two years ago, three years ago. It's time up. That's quarterback.

We don't let them get, we don't let them get too far into the deal, little chump. Right, okay, okay, okay, okay. That's everybody else we let get far into the deal. Not the quarterback. Right, okay, I got you, I got you. Okay, let me take it back. Not certain quarterbacks. Yeah, I'm glad you did that, I'm glad you did that.

I'm glad you did that. I'm glad you did that. I'm glad you did that. I'm glad you did that. I'm glad you did that. I'm glad you did that. I'm glad you did that. I'm glad you did that. I'm glad you did that. I'm glad you quarterbacks. Right, okay, I got you, I got you.

Okay, let me take it back. Not certain quarterbacks. Yeah, I'm glad you cleared that up. That's Ash right there laughing. Jordan. Oh. He got my trash can full of beer cans. you got my trash can full of beer cans

it's beer it's beer you know as from from the south she got a pickup truck she'd be throwing the can right in the back but look they say they're motivated. Yeah. You don't want to have this thing lingering on Joe. All right. And you want to get it done as soon as rather than later. Right. Let's get a number. They're gonna lose some people though.

Would I be surprised if Trent left? No. You got both. Yeah, you got both. Making big dollars. Think about it. The fangas is up. There is Ward. It's up. Yeah What's the car gonna probably want to read? No, I don't know where the last time Fred Warner went in He's probably gonna run to do something with his deal, right?

Very nice. You got Debo. You got a you you got Kittle and now you about to pay a guy 50 mil, right? I Say 40 45 45 is a good number You got Ayub, you got Kittle, and now you about to pay a guy 50 mil. Right. I say 40, 45, 45 is a good number. Trent, I'm gonna tell you who's gonna pay Trent top dollar. Who? The Chiefs. Absolutely, absolutely. Cause the left and right tackle played when the Chiefs has been abysmal all season long.

Ultra, check this out. Yeah. Yoel Milton III responds to angry Patriots fans on IG Live who were mad about not getting the first overall pick. He says, I ain't played football since pre-season. If y'all was in my shoes, y'all would give me an opportunity to play.

Would y'all go out there and not show up and not show out so y'all can talk all about me if I lose. I don't blame him. That's what I'm saying. Look, that ain't got nothing to do with me. That's an organization thing. That's y'all mindset. Oh, lose, no.

Athletes aren't wired like that. Right. We're programming. Man, you think I gotta lift all those damn weights out here practicing in the cold to try to lose? Nah, not at all. Not at all. You put in too much work, too much sacrifice

to even get to that point, to get to your childhood dream, any NFL, and oh, we doing it on purpose. And I'm trying to show, Ocho, I'm trying to show that, hey, if they want to move on, then I can build a solid backup somewhere. I'm trying to stay in the lead.

Most definitely. Because if I go out there and bulljab, guess what? I'm gonna become just like y'all, fans. Ooh, that's a good one, boy. That's a good one. That's exactly what's gonna happen. You listen to the fans too long, you be up in the stands just like they are.

Right along with them. Cause the mentality is different as a fan. They never have to understand. They looking out for the best interests of the team. I'm trying to win a game because guess what? If they get, I might not be here. They get good, I'm not here to benefit from it. Oh yeah, we appreciate what y'all gonna do for Milton. Ain't nobody gonna pay no salary

That may not the league. Oh, no. Yeah Joe do your thing Do what you do. You did right you showed the Patriots that you can be a serviceable backup you Excuse me You also open some other teams eyes to let them know, oh, he can play a little bit. I like it. Yeah. I bit my damn lip.

Cover your mouth. I don't do that Ocho, I did cover my mouth. I mean, look, Ocho, I covered my mouth. You saw that Ocho. See he trying to get. No, no, no. Well, I ain't got, I need some mouth. You saw that, Ocho. See, he tried to get it. No, no, no. Well, I ain't got, I ain't got, I need some spray. I need some disinfectant.

Me? Me, there you go. I'm full of pride, man. But, hey, Joe, you acquitted yourself well. You didn't get an opportunity to play much, but in the last game of the season, you showed up. You did your thing, bro. And congratulations. You showed people, you showed up. Yep. You did your thing, bro. And congratulations.

You showed people you showed the T you showed the Patriots, whoever the coach coming in there, they're like, Hey, we got a nice little backup. Hey, you're going to be on the roster next year. You can make yourself a little money. Go make yourself a little money. Oh yeah. Yeah. But don't, don't listen to the fans.

Joe, they did. They fans for a reason. Let them cheer and boo and do whatever they want to do. But you're going out there. You ain't right. It ain't your job. Your job is to go out there and play, play well, that's your goal, keep you keep and to be gainfully employed. That is your job, Joe.

And you did that. And I believe you're going to have a job next year with the Patriots. And if you don't, you showed that you could play in this league You show that gonna be somewhere Absolutely, and not up in the stands cheering like they are so Hang on. No problem with what he did. Oh Joe the NFL will consider Replacing the onside kick with an alternative proposal that has been mentioned in the years past instead of attempting to

onside kick teams would get one down to convert fourth and 20. If they get 20 yards, they would maintain possession of the ball. Oh Joe, how many times have you seen a team pick up for a 20 yard? That ain't nothing. Hey, but I'm just saying the difficulty in getting 20 yards in one shot is very, very, very rare. So they don't pick up? So you ain't never seen nobody get a 20 yard game?

I said it's very, very rare. It can happen. It happens very... It happens... How many... Come on now. Get off. You know how many plays? You know how many how many play you know how many how many play how many plays in the playbook for four. Yeah how many how many how many

well we fit to find out on average how many 20 yard plays happen in an NFL game. It ain't it I know one thing it ain't gonna be many. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. L. Joe. Yeah. Guess what happened? Guess what happened?

You get a penalty. What? You get a hold and penalty. Incidental contact. Illegal hands to the face. That's the first down. That's the first down. But you have to rely on the captain. You have to hope that happens. You have to hope that happens. Let me ask you a question. Did we not see penalties tonight? Yeah. You saw two of them. And guess what? It negated interceptions.

Hold on. Hold on. We're saying four of them 20 eliminate the onside kickoff in hopes that there's a penalty on the play. What if you don't get the penalty? Okay. Oh Joe, think about what you just said. What if you don't get the play? But what, think about it. What if there's no holding call? I'd rather talk by kick. What I'm saying, do you think the onside kick, the conventional onside kick, is more or less difficult than a fourth and twenty play? Which is more difficult to happen? A fourth and twenty?

Than an onside kick? Yes, if you've got a kicker that knows how to kick the goddamn ball and they have the third bounce go up in the air, you know what the problem is? The goddamn kicker don't know how to make the goddamn ball bounce. Listen let me say something especially to the chat. People need to understand what the onside kick is supposed to look like. The kicker is supposed to kick the ball, it's supposed to hit the ground. On the third bounce the ball is supposed to bounce and go up. Nobody has perfected that yet for some goddamn reason. I don't know why.

It's the onside kick is supposed to be basically. What's the, before you do that, what's the onside conversion rate? Give me the onside conversion rate. Hey, you know what I'm talking about. I know you've seen the onside kick come the right way, right? Yes, yes, I know you take that bounce. It hits that and it goes all the way up

and it basically becomes a jump ball. But nobody's been able to do it. I'm not sure what the kickers are doing these days. The onside kick is 4%. 4% right now how many times do you think there's a 20 I guarantee you there are more than 4% 20 yard plays in the NFL in a game. No not more than 20. Oh Joe but if it's a penalty there's so many things can happen.

Yeah, that's a hypothetical. If what if it ain't? Okay, you don't get it. I think the percentage is just as low. But see, you just gave a hypothetical. If it hit that perfect bounce and get it. That's a hypothetical. It's really not. It's really not hit the perfect bounce.

It's about it's a technique. It's a technique to it. It's a technique that I've mastered. It's a skill from the master. It still doesn't matter. If I lock it up perfectly, I still gonna recover it. If my guys block the guys because you got one guy that's gonna try to get on my third bounce,

he's running the edge to try to get it. Now, I get my guys up front to lock it. Now Green Bay messed it up against Seattle because what was supposed to happen, the tight end was supposed to block, and Jordan Nelson was supposed to field it. But what he did is he brought back up. So now I'm a coach it up. I believe there's a greater chance of converting fourth and 20 than it is actually getting an onside kick. Absolutely not. I think the percentage is the same or maybe even lower than the onside

kick. Four percent, if it's four percent for the onside kick. Absolutely not. I think the percentage is the same or maybe even lower than the onside kick. 4% is 4% for the onside kick. The Ravens have 85 plays of 20 yards or more. 85. So guess what Ocho? They have 85 plays of 20 yards or more on first, second, and third down. Not fourth. Ocho, but no Ocho. It doesn't matter. You just looking at the down, I'm looking at 20 yards. What difference does it make? So that's at least, so in 17 games, in 17 games, guess what, Ocho? How many is that?

That's like four games, isn't it? No, it's not happening. That's five, that's almost five a game. You gotta think about it, this is situational. That's almost five a game. It's a situational football. This is a onside kick and instead of doing onside. How many onside kicks get the Ravens

recombin' this year? You wouldn't have one shot at fourth to 20. You are not getting that as often as you think. It's not happening. Ocho, you're gonna pick up fourth to 20 more than you're gonna get an onside kick. I can assure you of that. No, absolutely not.

It's not happening you making it sound like they out there playing flag football the same flag football you're not just. Ocho, Ocho you looking at the you looking at first second or third I'm looking at 20 yards. You know how hard it is to get 20 yards? Yes it's even harder to get an onside kick recovery. That's my point. Difficulty is about the same, I'm telling you. Ocho, this man out is mine, chat.

No, Unc, you trippin'. And if the chat is agreeing with you, there's something wrong with them too. I know how difficult it is to get 20 damn yards. It is not more difficult to get 20 yards than it is an onside recovery, Ocho. Man, I'm tellin' you. That's why it's only 4%.

It's equivalent. It's equivalent. It is not equivalent. It's about 4% as well. Do you understand? I wish I had a defensive player that was in the chat that actually plays in NFL right now so they can tell you how difficult it is to get 20 yards.

And listen, all the things you can do defensively to make sure a team doesn't get 20 yards. You need, Ocho, but there's so many, Ocho, but see here's the thing. What can the defend, the defenders, when he's trying to recover it, there's a lot of things that he can't really do anything wrong. Right. All he can do is mess up, mess up recovery. You on fourth and 20, you, guess what?

You can jump outside now it's fourth and 15. You can illegal hands to the face. That's first down. You can do illegal contact. That's first down. You can face mask. That's first down. Guess what else you can do, Ocho?

How many rough in the past have you seen that in the writ to a first down? Right. Now that's hoping for a penalty. Everything you get, everything you get is hoping that something else goes wrong so we can get the first down. So what are you hoping for on the onside? You're hoping for the ball to pop up so it gets it. So you're hoping.

It's not, it's not likely. Neither one of us. Ocho, there were only three onside kicks recovered all year. So there are 32 teams. They play 17 games each. Only three onside were recovered. Now how many 20 yard games? How many third and 20s?

How many second and 20s? How many first and and twenties do you think the guy forget for, I'm looking at 20 yards, you're looking at the down 20 yards and 20 yards with this first down second down, third down or fourth down. You have to understand the situation in the circumstance. I'm opting out of the onside and we're trying to have one shot at 20 yards instead of an onside field, I mean, instead of an onside kick, it's the chances decrease significantly in making it in that one circumstance in a situation.

I'm trying to tell you, listen. Ocho, that's why you just throw the ball, because there's so many things that the defense can do to give you a first down. You can incidental contact, you can PI, you can hold, you can illegal hands to the face, you can face mask, you can unnecessary roughness on the quarterback. There are six things, now tell me six things

that the offense, that you can do, other than recover the ball, that will get you the ball on an onside. Even on that onside, not having those six things as a possibility that can happen on the onside is still significantly low. Your chance is still significantly low. Still, either way.

I'm just being honest. You know, we're making it, we're making it, well you're making it sound too, it's when you are. Ojo, the conversion rate on fourth and 15 or more is 15%. The conversion rate is less than 4% on the onside. Now I don't know who your math teacher was.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute, wait a minute. Let's go back, let's go back a little bit. Now I've already said something, I made it very clear from the beginning, is the fact that the kickers don't even know how to do the onside kick. Oh Joe, see, I'm saying, not quarterbacks don't know how to throw the ball.

You see what you did, you did another caveat. I did, another caveat. I'm telling you the onside kick, there's a certain technique to it that the goddamn kicker. There's a certain technique to pick up on 20 yards. You's a certain technique to pick up for a dog on 20 yards You see how I could do that. I can keep playing that game with you not a game I'm just telling you the chances increase when the kicker knows what the hell he's doing The chances increase when the quarterback knows what he's doing

I'll play your game. You want to do hypothetical. I'm gonna give it back I don't I it back to you. Let's go. You up next. I'm gonna challenge you. It ain't no changing the goal post. Y'all, it is tougher to recover an onside kick than it is to pick 1220 yards. No. You looking at four. I'm looking at 20 yards. So let me ask you the question. Yes, Chad What's the difference between first and 20 second and 20 third and 20 fourth and 20? 20 yards is 20 yards ain't nobody getting in one lump It's hard to get 20 yards in one lump sum. It's not it's not Side that the pick up 20 yards

Oh, them are equally as difficult as what I'm trying to tell you It's not it's harder to recover an arm side than to pick up 20 yards. Oh, them are equally as difficult as what I'm trying to tell you. No, oh Joe was equally difficult. If it which ways the more which ways more a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers. It's not that complicated. Oh Joe, which ways more a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers? A ton of bricks? They way to say a ton is a ton.

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Courts are not supposed to decide elections. Courts are not really supposed to play a big role in choosing our elected leaders. It's for the voters to decide. Follow The Big Take podcast on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen. Oh, Hugh Jackson is headed to Georgia State as the OC. Oh Cho, your old wire receiver. Hugh Jackson, congrats.

Oh Cho, what you think? You like it? I love it. That's the OC, Ocho, your old wire receiver. Hugh Jack, congrats. Ocho, what you think? I like it. I love it. I love it. Listen, I was... You going to coach the wire receivers? No, no, no, no, no. I can't coach no receivers. I can't coach. I got too many jobs.

I got too many jobs right now. Hey, you have one job coaching. No, they don't pay enough. They don't pay enough. They don't pay enough. You know, you know one job, coach you. No, they don't pay enough. They don't pay enough. They don't pay enough. You know, you know, I listen, I don't think you understand. I'm making better than NFL, NFL better minimum wage times 10. Having 50 jobs, I ain't going to Georgia State.

They can't they can't afford me. I don't know if that makes sense, but it makes sense to me. But yeah, listen, you did wonders for me in my career and my growth as a player, not only as a player, as a man as well, man. I think he's a great leader of men, somebody that means a lot, especially to me and my career

and what he was able to do for me as my head coach in Cincinnati during those years and that tenure I had with him, man, I'm happy for him. I'm gonna go down there and visit him now. I come down there in term when I got a little break, put my cleats on, run a few routes, lock up a few receivers outside of that, but that's cool, man, I'm happy for you, Jay.

Yeah, I know Hugh Jack look, I know you, Jack. I like you, Jack. He's a great offense in mind. I like that. I met you when he was a receiver's coach in Baltimore. Yeah. And so I like you talk to him and talk to him in a minute. Actually, when he was the the head coach at Cleveland. So I like I like you, him in a minute. Actually, when he was the head coach at Cleveland. So I like Hugh Jack a lot. It was a great opportunity.

Hopefully he gets an opportunity to parlay that into another head coach because I think he deserved to be a head coach somewhere. Listen, if you ever have the opportunity, but I know the chat wouldn't have the opportunity. But you just said these are bringing your mind. If you ever have the opportunity to you just say these are bring your mind if you ever have opportunity sit down with you and talk football until my exit nose yeah blow your mind what oh yeah I think you better as an office coordinator than a head coach right okay okay the two are different the two are very different and the fact all I got to do is worry about

this office I ain't got to worry about the defense. I ain't got to worry about the specialty. I ain't got to coach the coaches. I ain't got to worry about nothing. I ain't got to worry about somebody showing up late. I ain't got to worry about any of this. All I worry about is the offense. Right.

Yeah. I like it. And that's the most difficult thing. A lot of times though, as a head coach, is being able to delegate. Being able to delegate, having the right people to make sure your generals get your message out. But that's not easy.

That's not easy. But congratulations Hugh Jackson, headed to Georgia State as the OC. That's a lot. I thought you was gonna be. Ooh, Ocho. Now, see we got a little extra time Ocho, we got your sing but coming back.

Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. Spello Cinco. You doing it right now? Yep. Hold on, let me, hold on, hold on. Spello Cinco. You doing it right now? Yep. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Ready. Hold on.

Yeah. I gotta make my entrance. Gotta make my entrance. Yeah. Gotta make my entrance. Let's go. Let's go chat. Let's go.

Coach-o. The first word is flummoxed. Wait. Flummoxed. Flummoxed? Flummoxed. Yes, the last discussion between the onside and fourth and 20 had Ocho completely flummoxed.

Flummoxed. Yes. That could be wrong, but I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm listen, listen, I need you to do me a favor on these next words. I need you to pronounce and sound the words all the way out because that plummix. I said plummix and I even gave you the definition. I even gave you the definition. The definition has nothing to do with what you're saying because you had two Ms.

Plummix. You had two Ms, right? Yes. When you, when you, when you say it, you say it's? Flummix. It had two M's, right? Yes. When you say it, you say it. I said Flummix. No, you need to say Flummix. No, no, I don't need to say that. And you ain't let me know there's two M's.

Because nobody said Flumm. They say Flummix. That lets me know it had two M's, so I didn't know that now. Okay, come on. Okay, your next word is Billingsgate. Billingsgate, a word used to describe coarse language. Billingsgate. Billingsgate, a word used to describe course language, Billingsgate.

Billingsgate. B-I-L-L-I N-G-S-G-A-T. Correct. NGSGATE correct we saw it look down chat oh damn it don't play with the next word this is what I told you

it's octothorpe huh? octothorpe octothorpe octothorpe octothorpe oct thorpe Octothorp. Octothorp. Octothorp. Octothorp. Octothorp. Octothorp. Ain't no sir, Octo. Hold on now. Are you saying auto as in automobile? Nah, Ocho, don't do that. I'm asking. You heard what I said. I said OCH. OCH. OCTOTHORP. Hey, hey, don't, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, well, I'll show. Look at the camera straight ahead. Thank you. There you go. I'll talk about. Oh, Joe, look at me. Thank you. Octothor. I used I was trying to say I'll tell Thor. They don't I told. I told Thor. I'm confused.

I told I told. So octopus starts with OC, so I'm assuming Octo as well starts with O C, right? Octothorpe? Hey, hello? Yeah. Octothorpe. Yes. I'm taking a guess here.

O C T Octo. O C T O Thorpe. T H O-C-T-O, Thorpe. T-H-O-R-P-E, octothorpe. I know I'm wrong. This man look at that bitch. Hey chat, will y'all stop putting the words in that y'all see, cheatin', damn! Whoa, what the, what the, what the,

talkin' about? I'm talking, did that get in her? Yeah, you got it right. Yeah. Oh, they writing it. Did that get her? Yeah, you got it right. Yeah, they writing it. We got to say, matter of fact, you

talk about being in the chat. My chat ain't even up. Matter of fact, hold on. Let me show you. Oh, wait. Don't say nothing. Don't say nothing. Look at my camera.

Look who's on my camera. You got a computer. Oh my god. Hold on. Thank you. Well, hold on. Hold on. The next word is festoon. Oh, wait. No. You saw I got my computer up. This is Oh my. Hold on. That's thank you. Well, hold on. Hold on. Next word.

Well, wait, no. You saw I got my computer up. This is what's up for my computer. Man. Oh, Joe. Stop it. Yeah. Yeah. Apologize. Apologize. Apologize. Apologize. This this tune. Are you gonna apologize? Please apologize. This tune. Okay, hold on. Are you gonna apologize? Please apologize. No. Festoon. Okay, hold on. Are you gonna apologize for being wrong? Absolutely not.

Alright, what's the word? Festoon. Who? Festoon. Fest. Fest. Like when you fest up to something, right? Yes. I fest up to something, right? Yes. I fes up to it. It starts with F-E-S.

So I'm assuming fes tune. I know it's probably some weirdo, some weirdo butchering of the English language, the way this is spelled. Fes tune, F-E-S. Now, when you say tune, is it like, like tune, like, like the radio when you tune into something? Is it T-O-O T U N E? Festoon.

Huh? Festoon. I don't like that we're not in Green's and you trying to be on my side and help me figure this out. Festoon, can I get, can I get um... Describe decor and how a place is decorated. out. Festoon, can I get, can I get, um. Describe decor and how a place is decorated. Festoon. Festoon. You know, I'm going to take a wing at it.

F-E-S-T-T-O-O-N. I know it's wrong. Correct. Festoon. You serious? Are you just bullshitting? No, it's right. The next word. Accubation. Accubation. Now I've never heard of accubation, but I've heard of accusation. It describes a person who eats or drinks laying down I know it's wrong.

It's A-C-C-U-B-A-T-O-N, acubation. So you're not going to give me that? Describes a person who eats a drink while laying down. So you're not going to give me that? No, because you had one C. The other C was silent. You're not going to give me that? Well, I needed you to whisper it. Hey, listen, you could have gave you that man. If you go to Scripps Spelling Bee and you spell the word wrong

they're not gonna give it to you. I'm just saying for the sake of things and for how well I'm that. Your bonus word is Biblioclept. Biblioclept. Hey, hey that's a good one. The word, Ocho listen to me, listen closely. Okay. The word is Biblioclept, a person who steals books. I mean, why, why didn't you just say spell thief? No.

All right. Because the biblioclip and the thief. Biblioclet. Bibli. Bibli. I know B-I-B. L. Biblio, Biblio, I know B-I-B-L-Biblio, Biblio, B-I-B-L-Biblio, B-I-B-L-E-O. Biblio.

Hey, I don't like this word. Why? Because I'm getting stumped. I don't know if it's B-B-L-O. No, it ain't. It can't be B-L-O. Biblio Clep, a person who steals books. Biblio.

Biblio Clep. K-L-E-P-T. I know that's wrong. B-I-B-L-I-O-K-L-E-P-T, Biblio Clep. I was off by a little bit. I was off by a little bit. I was off by a little bit. You got two right. What? Billingsgate.

No, you got three write what Billingsgate? No, you got three right. Billingsgate, what you trying to cheat, man? No, he didn't get Billingsgate. Yes, I did. You did. You did. You got Billingsgate. You got you. Oh, you're trying to cheat me. No, you got Arthur. You got festoon and you got Billingsgate. No, no, you got three. You was three or six. I was four or six.

You miss Flummox. Hey, yeah, boy. Miss Accubation. Are you trying to you miss BiblioClip? Are you trying to cheat me, boy? That boy you trying to see me. It's all good. Oh, Joe, that was the BiblioClip was a bonus.

So actually, you were you were three for five You but you missed the bonus three for six. So the bonus gets in there. So All right, oh Joe now it's time for dunk No going up and that's exactly we get ready to do we get ready to dump. We feel the duck like Okay, here we go. Check y'all ready Chat do not know chat do not put the answer. Chat. Do not put the answers in. No, don't put the answers in chat. Please don't do that.

Okay. You ready? Yes. After trailing 2047 in the fourth quarter of the 1979 cotton bowl against Houston, the fighting Irish rallied for 35-34 win behind this future NFL Hall of Fame. Joe Montana they gave him soup on the sideline. I ain't gonna waste your time. I ain't gonna hold you. Okay. Alright. I ain't gonna hold you. I ain't gonna hold you. I ain't gonna hold you. I ain't gonna hold you. Okay. You ready? Yes. Hired in 1918.

Okay. He led Notre Dame to five undefeated seasons, won the Ford Pass of football, and holds the highest winning percentage in FBS history with point? eight eight one who is this I Believe it was the great Frank Leahy that is out that is absolutely wrong And you see who was that's conviction like you thought it was right. I thought it was who was it?

No, it's it's it's newt rock me rock me So we I can't believe I missed that bull John. Yeah. Yeah Rockne Rockne. Wow. That was so easy. I can't believe I missed that bull. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you will miss this. I will get, I will miss this one. Oh, trust me. You will miss this one. You ready?

Yes. This Penn State quarterback was the runner up to the Oklahoma Billy Sim for the 1978 Heisman Trophy. Then later played in the USFL for the Philadelphia Baltimore Stars. Chuck Pesano? God damn it. Stop playing.

I ain't gonna hold you, Ocho. I ain't gonna hold you. I ain't gonna hold you. I ain't gonna hold you. Okay. Okay. WW. Hey, hey, hey, listen.

That was the- That was email. Okay, okay. That's calm. I'm logged on. Y'all been got me logged on right now. I'm logged on now. That was a good one. That was a Dot com, I'm logged on. Y'all have got me logged on right now. I'm logged on now.

That was a good one. That was a good one. I'm gonna say that one. Ocho! Ocho! What I got me with me and Teddy Bear asleep like that? I'm dreaming. Okay.

Well let me tell you- I'm thinking of a question that Ocho could possibly answer. So now I gotta go through, I gotta go through Shugal. Not Google, Shugal. Which is Shannon, Google, Shugal. Right. Well let me tell you one thing. If you and Teddy sleep, y'all finna, which is Shannon Google Shugal. Right. Well, let me tell you, I'm gonna tell you one thing. If you were Teddy Sleepy, y'all from the wake up on this is right here.

Nickname linebacker you Penn State has produced many great linebackers. They stand out. Yes. 1990, 19 won the buckets award that season. Who is that? Levar Errington. They also had Chris Billman, Shane Connelly. Hey remember that play where LaVar jumped over the line of scrimmage? Mm-hmm. I remember that I remember that.

Alright I'm gonna let you add. Hey I just want y'all to know I'm logged on. I plugged in. I mean hey listen I, Helen Keller would have known that. See, I'll go ahead and give you the answer because I don't want to hold you because the chat come on. Oh, you know, the chat come out. Oh, he looking at the computer. How can I look at the computer? I don't know what you're going to ask me.

And I'll spread it out as soon as he come out with it. Come on, check. Give me some credit. OK, here we go. Here we go. Yeah, you can just go over that now because he, he tried to, he tried to say I was cheating and I turned my camera and my computer around and you can see there was no chat up y'all still. This one for you, Teddy. This one for Teddy.

Here we go. Here we go. Drafted second overall by the Seattle Seahawks in 1993. This Notre Dame quarterback was selected right after Drew Bledsoe. Rick Meyer. How long ago? How long ago? What the chat?

What now? What now? Y'all have even got it up in the chat yet. Come on, Ocho. Okay. Last one. You ain't gonna get this one right. In 1994, this Penn State quarterback led a record-setting offense to an undefeated season and a Rose Low win before going fifth overall in the 1995 NFL draft. Kerry Collins, I ain't gonna hold you.

He and Ke'Johnna Carter was in the same backfield. I don't even wanna hold you. Hey, champ, what y'all think about that? How did I do, champ? Champ, how I do, champ? Hey, you- How I do? You must've gotten briefed before this.

You must've gotten briefed. Nah, you got- That's long gone. You must've got briefs before this. You must've got briefs. Nah, you got- I'm long gone. Nah, nah. I'm long gone, old chump. I'm gonna make sure all my answers is from it. I'm gonna make sure all my questions next time is from the 1900s.

Man, why you gotta go back to 1918? Hey man, listen, I knew the answer Man, why you gotta go back to 1918? Hey man, listen, I didn't even answer before I even asked it. Again, five or six. It's cool. And the winner. I was long known tonight, Ocho. That was a good one.

I was long known. I wasn't even gonna hold tonight, Ocho. That was a good one. I was long known. I wasn't even gonna hold you, Ocho. I wasn't gonna pretend like I was like, because you look at the ride for some, so I just go ahead and read it out. All right, Ocho, now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for, Ocho.

You cheated, man. I'm just thinking about it, man. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, What's up? You cheated man. I'm just think about it man Hi Chi Ocho Come chat listen like the tough the questions I was asking weren't as Difficult as the words I had to spell Ocho you asking me stuff who finished running up the Billy Sims

in a 1978 Heisman. Now if you'd have asked me who won a 1977 Heisman, I'd have had to stumble a little bit pretend like I didn't know and say the Tyler Rose which is Earl Campbell. Now if you'd have went to 76 I'd have said Tony Dorsett. Now since you went to 78 it was Billy Sims and then 79 would have been, who would have been in 79? White from USC. The 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s

and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s and 70s Okay, I see you. I see you. I see you. I'm gonna let you have that. I'm gonna let you have that. Okay. Appreciate that, Ocho. Yes, sir. Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with the Stars.

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That's for the voters to decide. Follow The Big Take podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen. ["The Big Take"] All right, now it's time for our last segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A. Q&A Look at this one, you hear me?

Yeah Huh, I can't hear you All right. Yeah. See, what time is it? Uh, one o'clock. You see, why are you calling my phone this time of night? Making sure you're where you're supposed to be? No, no, what she's trying to do is she thinks I'm a booty call.

And that's what I'm not going to be no no what she trying to do is she think I'm a booty call And that that's what I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna be your little boy I bet you I bet you let I bet you drag your time lady black ass over there I bet I guarantee you I guarantee I don't cuz what you're not gonna do you're not gonna disrespect me I think you just gonna use me, you know parts, you know, you This is not what you wanted. You didn't You didn't want to continue to be with me. Then listen, I ain't no talk. Oh, then 86, you know 86,

Benny Chester Birdie won the Highland. Hey, come on, man. Oh, my bad. You didn't know that? Nah. Tim Brown won in 87. And then Barry and then Audrey Ward. Okay, let's go.

Okay, but do I get what you I get what you say it didn't Desmond Howard, but okay. Aaron Owen says what's up uncle no Joe when you first got to the league was the first DB to shut you down. He's already talking to you. Yeah, that was a little joke. When you got to the league, what's up, Uncle Nocho? When you got to the league, who was the first DB who shut you down? Well, ain't nobody shut me down when I first got there. And on the back end, you know, Reeves had the date.

That was about it. I'm trying to think. Hell, when I first got in the league, I ain't get a whole lot of playing time, so I get out there and get my 15 play. A lot of people shut me down because I wouldn't get no passes. Bailey was Coach Reed because he ain't calling no plays for me. But man, you know back then on the day DB were physical. Oh yeah. It wasn't there was no incidental contact.

There was none of that stuff. Man, look here. Man, I'm just't, there wasn't no incidental contact. There wasn't none of that stuff. Man, look here. Man, them just put a pause on you, man. You wasn't going nowhere. They was strong as hell. Man, shoot. Boy, Dale Carter.

Yeah, DC. Him and he was in with James Hasty. He was in- James Hasty. He was there with James Hasty. He was in. James Hasty. I forgot. He was there with Hasty. The Raiders, you know, the Raiders always had DBs. They play straight man covers though. Yeah.

I love playing the Raiders. Cause they wasn't, look. You know what you did. Oh, it wasn't no secret. It wasn't no, oh, they gonna play cover four. They gonna play cover two. They gonna play, you know, 25. They playing straight man.

First down, second down, third down. That way, man. Hey, right there in front of you, you go in motion. You go follow your own formation. It ain't there was no secret what they were doing. So I love the Raiders because it wasn't a whole lot of studying. Right. And then that was when, you know, they say like, hey, look, DB did, and Mike was like, hey, do whatever you want to do.

You can hold them. Oh, man. Come on, bro. Come on now. They grabbing you around the west. Come on now. They gonna, they gonna call that. But it definitely prepared us to get open.

Isaiah Lancaster says, Uncle Nocho, which quarterback in the NLC for the playoffs do you trust the most? And who's more clutch? And there's a lot of players that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen that I've seen But it definitely prepared us to get open. Isaiah Lancaster says, Uncle Nocho, which quarterback in the NFC for the

playoffs do you trust the most? And who's more clutch in their sport as two great players, Mahomes or Michael Jordan? Ooh, that Mahomes question. I'm gonna come back to that. But the quarterback I trust most in the NFC would probably have to be golf, huh? I agree. That's what I would say. I would say Jared Goff.

You'd probably have to be golf. And listen, there would be nothing wrong me saying Stafford as well, being that Stafford has already won a Super Bowl. So we somebody I also trust, especially with what he has worked with offensively. I don't think he has as much around him like Detroit. Right.

Because they're already going to be at a disadvantage on your not to cut you off, because now the game is going to be played in Arizona. So you've lost home field advantage. Yeah. Whatever home field advantage you have, it's not like they really have one because, because everybody in LA is a transplant. So there's not like, oh man, I'm a diehard Rams fan.

Like, nah, it ain't like that. You know, like you go to Detroit, they're going to have a true home field advantage. You know, you go to Pittsburgh, you go go to Baltimore you go to Kansas City or Tampa You're gonna have a true home field advantage. Right? Well, don't you play at a neutral site? Hmm and it's not like the Rams have this Overwhelming fan base. Oh, no, no begin with they do travel, but they don't travel like a Steelers. They don't travel like no He was fan base. They don't travel like that now. I Would not be surprised going to Eagles would go on to play in goddamn Alaska.

Yeah. Man, listen, everybody from Philly gonna be in Alaska. Oh yeah. The Eagles in the Steelers, they don't play. I wouldn't be surprised, Ocho, if the Vikings have more fans in Arizona than the Rams. Well, you don't, uh, well, uh, now it's the playoffs now, so I would think the Rams fans, even those who haven't been fans throughout the year, I think they would travel well.

I would, I would hope, especially now that they've made it to the playoffs. Ocho, I don't know if you've ever been to a Rams home game. There's always more visiting fans than the Rams fans. Yeah, when they played the Vikings earlier in the season, I was there. There's more... Man, I went to when they played the championship, when they played Sam Fran, Rams played Sam Fran in the championship game. There was more 49ers, there was more red and gold

than there was blue and silver. I mean, blue and yellow. Yellow, yeah. I wonder why. It's crazy. You think maybe LA, is LA like Miami? They ain't come. Yeah, it's a transplant, yeah.

Yeah, ain't no natives. Right, they ain't coming to the game unless you win it. Right, most of the fans, they grew up, they were Steelers fans, they were Packers fans, they were Cowboys fans, they were this fans, they were that fans. Right. And so they moved here. And like, oh, oh, our team coming. Rams ain't really happening. Think about it. The Rams, they were in, they were in Anaheim and they were, they were in St. Louis. Right, right, right.

No. Miguel Ortiz is both the AFC West and the NFC North has three teams in the playoffs. If you were to make a division versus division matchup, mixing up all the players, the division to make a team. Wow, that'd be really good. We ain't got no running backs. I mean, look, if you take, if you take my homeboy and play him, say he's your quarterback, let's just say you take Lamar. Man, they got, man, they got Derrick Henry.

They got Chase? Yeah. They're cheating. Yeah, they're cheating. They're cheating. They got, I mean look at, they got, they got Hedrickson. They got, uh, uh, uh, uh, TJ Watt. Ooh. Yeah.

They got Roquan Smith. I mean, first of all, the Ravens had nine Pro Bowlers. Yeah, them boys stacked this shit, man. And then you had Hendrickson made the Pro Bowl, Chase made the Pro Bowl, and Joe made the Pro Bowl. Now, we might get y'all on linemen, because, you know, we got Creed Humphrey for the center, Tooney, the left guard, try to think. Left tackle probably be Slater, right tackle probably be Joe Alt.

Yeah, I think the FC North might win it. Every time. Every good, I mean, hey seen or might win it every time every good. I mean, hey, we got two ideas. I mean, we got kills in Brock Bowers, which all got Andrews and likely likely. But that'd be a good that'd be a good match up. Dippington McGee, so I'll show miss you guys live had had to say those calling the Bingo the team to beat were right. They got beat. Sorry, Ocho had to. Whoa, whoa, whoa, simmer down, simmer down, simmer down, simmer down.

Yeah, Ocho, y'all was. Listen, we out of it. I don't want to talk no more about Bengals. You know, let's. Yeah, what they talk about. Yeah, just we just gonna focus on the team that in the playoffs Yeah, that we need to focus on yeah, but it won't be the Broncos after Saturday, but go ahead whoa Why are you talking about Broncos? I didn't I say we won't have to talk about them after Saturday But we got to talk about a bump until Saturday Guess who do we don't got to talk about we had to talk about them

up until Saturday guess who do we don't got to talk about we had to talk about them since Sunday it says you want to be nasty about it where my money since you want to be nasty what about money chat y'all see that he being nasty and then a a a a a got me my bread Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, got me my bread. Adrian said, Tio, Shay, recent fires in LA have impacted myself and my family. I would like to say thanks for providing an escape of reality.

Mucho gracias, guys. Adrian, hey bro, I appreciate the hard work that you do, man. We really appreciate that, man. I am so sorry that your family, friends, and loved ones has been impacted by this forest fires. I've talked to some people that's lost everything. Oh, Joe. It's bad. I was there in 17 and 18 when they had the forest fires.

And they say it's 10 times worse than that. And I can just move. And a lot of people had their fire insurance canceled. So they had no coverage. Why? Oh, it's a it's a it's a I don't really get it. I don't even want to talk about it, but hey. It's just tough, but I hope you and your family and friends and some loved ones, everybody. I mean, I'm just you just watching're like, wow, you just, I mean, you

just wow. I mean, I don't really, really know what else to say. I mean, I wish there was something I could do. That's crazy. But, uh, but thank you, uh, Adrian for all you do. Jay 213 say, uh, uh, for all you do. J213 says, Happy birthday, Ocho. My question for you all, the most thoughtful gift you've ever received. Love you both.

My wife says, thank you for helping me get through the long nights. Oh, most thoughtful gift. Ocho, what's the most thoughtful gift you've ever received? The most thoughtful gift you've ever received? The most awful gift I've ever received? I think my kids. Kids? Kids, yeah. Oh, Lord.

Yeah, yeah, because they didn't, I'm trying to think about gifts because I'm really not into gifts. I'm very, very, very, very simple, very simple when it comes to gift giving because the things that I like and I enjoy that bring me pleasure are like stupid stuff that people would laugh at. Like, who cares about that? Like, but, you know.

Damn, that's a good one. I'll just picture. I don't know if you can see it, but it's a picture of my brother and I at the hall of fame with my grandmother in the backdrop. That's a good one. Um, it's on the wall in my bedroom. Um, It's on the wall in my bedroom.

Um, fortunately, uh, I'm not in Cali currently. And, uh, but that would probably be the first thing that I, other than the dogs, that would be the part that would be the first thing that I grabbed. Everything else. I mean, trophies, the jerseys, all that stuff. Hall of Fame jacket. I mean, I can't replace the jerseys. I mean, I get replicas, but they're not the actual jerseys that I played in the game with.

That's fine. But that pitcher, Teddy and Titus, I'm getting them and then all this other-ish. It is what it is. It is what it is. Hey, I got a question. Yeah. I mean back to the LA fires. I'm curious why were the fire insurances or whatever it may be, why were they canceled when fires always happen up in the hills like that anyway? It was if it was a recurrent thing. The same reason that you guys

that Florida canceled a lot of flood insurance because hurricanes happen, floods gonna happen, so if we know something's gonna happen we don't want to ensure the most likely thing to happen. It's tough man, it's tough. It's tough, man. It's tough. Man. And this is crazy. It is. It's crazy. It absolutely is.

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Bet. Everyone, my last quiz. What up, Uncle Nocho? Y'all wish my girlfriend Maria happy Happy birthday. She's her is 21 Hopefully you 22 we're huge fans of the podcast. God bless nothing less than six or seven 25 Maria Erma wants to wish you a happy birthday. Happy 21st birthday big to one there Hey, I know y'all had to celebrate this one

Y'all got to celebrate this thing and blow it out because you're never gonna be 21 again and there's nothing like turning 21. So happy birthday, Maria, Elmer, go do something special for your lady. Darrius Allen, is it true now that you're faster shipping? I love the merch but don't want to wait 20 days again. Nah, you good.

Yeah, matter of fact. Yeah. Matter of fact. Yeah. Matter of fact. What we've done, Ocho, let me explain. What we've done is officially we've switched the fulfillment centers. So now it's not gonna take that long. But thank you for supporting a small business. Like, look, when you first start out, bro,

there's a lot of technical things you gotta get. Hey, there's a lot of stuff that gets lost. We lost a lot of merchandise because we see people To they only order one of these order two and we ship three or four But there's a lot of kinks and bugs that you got to get worked out and that's a part of it That's a part of the growing pains. But bro, there's I really thank you for your support, bro But I promise you you won't have to wait 20 days again. Hey, I just ordered you you know, I ordered, uh, I want to, who, who get to see the emails? Ash can see the emails when they come through? No?

Yeah, Ash can. Yeah, I don't see the emails. Yeah, I just, I ordered, um, the one with the, what you call it? The nightcap shirt with the, um, underneath, under the- Oh yeah, with the thermal. Yeah, I ordered out a thermal today. I ordered like some earlier today and I looked at my email again It said order shipped out already. I'm like, well goddamn Yeah, we own it dog. Don't have a fast Yes Yeah, bro. We gonna turn it around. I mean once we get the handle of it. Yay

Appreciate it. We should hey Yeah, yeah, I mean uh it took us a little time to get everything situated, but bro, I, uh, I appreciate the support guys, but hopefully, yeah, I think we got it worked out now that the ship, the, uh, the shipment will not take as long. Um, we'll get it out to you ASAP. Hopefully everybody's received their original orders, especially from the new merchant. As you order it now, we can get it to you right away.

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