Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Rich Paul JOINS NIGHTCAP to TALK LeBron James + LeBron EXPECTED To MAKE DECISION SOON

Episode Date: July 13, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to LeBron reportedly making a decision this week and Rich Paul joins Nightcap to talk LeBron and MORE! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - LeBron James is expected to make his decision this week11:54 - Rich Paul joins (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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How much of that is real? Like everything. He like that joke, he remembers everything. even though he was small. And y'all see chat, everything that I told you. He had some of the stuff I forgot. Some of the stuff I forgot. And sometimes he'd be telling me stuff,

then I can add, I can feel it in the blank. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that now. But you've got to realize, I mean, my memory from the time I was about five and then my grandfather died when I was eight, about to be nine. So that was, you know, you five years old, your memory is not the greatest,

but I just remember him because, He didn't really talk a lot, but he had such a commanding voice. He had a very, hey boy, he had one of those type voices. Yeah, yeah. He wasn't big. He's probably pop-off probably about five, seven, maybe five, maybe five eight, probably about two 50. Damn. Yeah.

He had a presence about himself. Yeah. And very matter of fact, it wasn't no play, wasn't no key. I should have told him the story about that we were full up to the gas station. And the man made jokes about my father. Our grandfather had false teeth. Oh, yeah. He had him sitting on a dash.

Yeah, you say, you were. Hey, hey, Mr. Barney, you better catch a T for they run away. Well, my father put that car apart. Hey. Man, I'm a grown man. I don't play. I'm sorry, Mr. Barney. You should be.

All right, let's get back on track. LeBron James is expected to make his decision regarding free agency this upcoming week. Pershont Devaney. Joe, where's it going? Hey, man. You know, it's a lot of speculations out there, Uncle Ocho. And, you know, it's a lot of rumlins about different parts going to different places,

different players, Link. I'm going to be honest with y'all. I don't know what the hell he's going right now. You know, I think I want to put, you know, Philly in there. I want to put Cleveland and now. want to put Miami in there and go to state them for i think he's going to go to one of them but i also think he's trying to get some help meaning like i don't think he just want to go somewhere by himself unless it's just unless it's philly you know what i mean you can just

plug and play in philly but even if he goes to miami i think he he probably wants to bring a a guy too with him yep i've been hearing the rumblings about potential trade with kansas Kyrie going to Cleveland with him. I ain't gonna lie. I would love to see that too. It's a few. Hey man, listen. I think wherever he go, he's gonna shake,

he gonna shake the basketball world up, bro. Absolutely. Absolutely. What y'all got? What y'all got? Let me hear it. I have no idea, Joe, because there are compelling arguments that can be made for every team that he's going to,

but there's also a drawback. For every compelling argument that you make, I can make it says, okay, this is why I don't think. I think it makes sense. Absolutely. Absolutely. And so that's why it's so hard for me to pinpoint one place.

Like I said, for me, the easiest fit where I believe he can still be LeBron James and be first or second option, a second option is Golden State. That's what's that for me. Everywhere else, you got Donovan, you got James Hardin, you got Janice. So from, and you need shooting spacing because now the one thing we know Golden State can do is they can space the floor. Yeah. Well, space the floor. or LeBron has the ball in his hands, he can get downhill.

So for me, that makes the most sense. But LeBron James is not looking to do what makes the most sense for Shannon or anybody else. What makes the most sense for LeBron? What's going to be easiest on my family? Right. Whether I play 26, whether I play 26, 27 leading into 28 and call it. Do I play 24 and call it a year career or do I play 25 in call it a career? So it's going to have to make sense

to him, not us. Yeah, I agree. I just think the Golden State thing is far-fetched because if they're saying he won't AD to come with him, I just don't see Washington giving up AD considering what they can accomplish this year. I've already stated that I feel like they can make the biggest jump in the Eastern Conference,

but the East is going to be jumping this year. And if I'm brun, just keeping it 100, it's like, damn, I think I want to get the hell up out to Western Conference. I mean, you would have to. And more, it's more logic, it's more common sense, especially where LeBron is in being, being older. Obviously, going to Golden State, a lot of people would like it. Uncle, you mentioned the spacing on the floor

and him being able to dictate and do some of the things he'd like to do in being LeBron again, but also who wants to go in the West and have to deal with having the plate, the Spurs, none of their nuggets, which I keep saying. Then I think about Philly. Ah, now you third fiddle, you third fiddle again. You bet you back put in that situation where Maxie needs the ball. Jalen Brown needs the ball.

Then you have him beat. It just makes no sense. Now, if you're playing NBA 2K, you put LeBron on Philly. It makes sense. To me, the best fit, which is what I said from day one, is coming down here to Miami. The ball is in your hands. You can facilitate. You can dictate.

You can pick and choose when you want to insert yourself in the games. You still get your points. You got Bam and Janus. You ain't got to do much of sitting in the chair. they're going to do all the dirty work. They're going to have it in the construction hat. You got to shoot it. You got Tim Hardaway.

You got Andrew Wiggins. And I'm sure they're going to bring another piece of two in. That to me makes the most sense. Cleveland is not happening. Cleveland don't make sense to me, Joe. I understand about the reunion and to go back where it all started, Joe. But with Hardin, Donovan Mitchell, Allen. Okay, okay, well, listen, if they get rid of,

if they trade for Kyrie and get rid of Jay and get rid of Jay. which I can't see Dallas doing that because I don't see, I don't see Dallas won Cooper Flag and James Harden to be. I don't really see that. But let's just say, hypothetically speaking, they trade for Kyrie and Kyrie goes back. You don't like, you still don't like the Cleveland situation?

I like Kyrie and LeBron wherever they are. I'm going to be one thigh with you. Wherever they are, I like Kyrie and Braun. Hey, hey. I have a question. What's up? Joe, you would know better than me, Unk. You know, too, because now is your knowledge of the game,

especially with free agency and trades is as much better than i am what about the opportunity of of carrie going to miami i mean being at lebron i'm telling you all again once again ahead of time i continue to throw these hints out uh but nobody's really picking up what i'm putting down what about what are the chances of carrie going down to miami hey i don't know what the chances are but but ocho i love it bro i ain't going to lie i'm a big fan of carrie uh you know he takes the game series he always in shape you know what i mean he's a savant and he's shown that he can play with other great players, you know what I mean, and still be super effective. So I like Kyrie wherever he at. I do want to see him playing meaningful basketball.

Like I wouldn't mind seeing him and Brian get back together. I think that would be, that would be lit, not only for the game of basketball, but for them two as well, because both what really feel like they have something to prove, considering Kyrie coming off of ACL surgery. Brun basically, you know, seeing how the Lakers was moving in a different different direction and was like, look, man, all I need is one team, you know what I mean? I obviously be 41 by the B 42, bro, and still have options.

Okay, Ocho, this is, this, this traded waters, bro, we ain't never seen this before. No. Yeah. So we, I hate to see, I hate making decisions like this. I mean, most people like certainty. People, we like routine, Joe. Yeah.

See, that's why LeBron has been able to play so long because he loves the routine. Yeah. He loves the monoeuvre. of getting up, working out, getting shots, doing what he does, go to sleep, get up again, go work out. He loves the monotony of that. Now he's going to have to do that just in another, you know, if he goes leaves,

if the West Coast now, the East Coast, now three hours. He hadn't been on the way, he hadn't been on the East Coast like that full time since he left Cleveland. Yeah. Yeah. But if anybody, look, you don't play this long. beat this great without having adaptability. The greats can always adapt.

Yes. They can play in any conditions. They can play with no matter the defense. They've probably seen every, every, you know, what you can throw at them. They can, they can handle it. It's just a situation where, man, everybody thinks they have a chance. That's the thing if you know, feeling like, oh, man, we got a, we got the bead, we got Maxi, We got J.B.

We got Etcham. You know, Miami's like, hey, we got Bam and we got Yonness. We got Wiggins. We got Dave Yon Mitchell. Cleveland says, it's his home. He had two stints with us here. I honestly don't know. I have earthly.

I have no earthly idea where LeBron's going to go. And I'm sure he knows. I'm sure Savannah knows and probably Rich Paul. On what he's leaning to it? I mean, in Ocho knows. No, you don't know. You're speculating. I'm not speculating.

I'm telling you, Joe, and I've been telling you with confidence the past two weeks. I think y'all, y'all in the picture, Ocho. I don't think y'all leading the race, though. Oh, I agree, Joe. Okay.

So when this happens, I want to apologize you from both of you, please. Okay. All right, all right, all right. You ain't going to go to no game, so why you care? Huh? You're not going to go to any game.

so why do you care? I might go to one, maybe two. Especially now, now that I know and understand the game, you know, I can talk it with y'all, listen, I'm gonna go to maybe one or two games. But I want to watch it from home so I can see exactly, you know, how the flow of the game is going.

And listen, Brun, go back to Miami. They're gonna be turned up to the max. Yeah. Yeah. I'm talking about what's super high expectation. They're going to be looking to bring the trophy back to Miami, baby. Hey, listen, and we talk about bringing the trophy back in the planning of 23rd, 24th year at 42 years old. Your best chance to get one is over there with them with them two dogs, huh, at the four and a five.

But you know. Yeah, I think the thing is that we know Spoh and they play hard. They play hard. Now, he don't always have the pieces. to go compete, but they're going to compete. They win some games just because they're better condition and they're better coach. Oh, yeah.

Not because they have the better team. No question. No question. That's why they're always in the fight and they always in the race. They ain't never going to be completely out of it, bro. You know, because we talk about the heat culture and how those guys operate over there, man, they're always going to be in it.

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Hey, Rich, you muted? I'm unmuted. Hey, what's our, twin? What's good? Hey, not, I'm sitting here trying to educate. I'm trying to educate these two on my, on my, um, excellency when it comes to talking basketball. and where our Bron going? Like, I know you can't say it,

but I know where you're going. I'm trying to explain to them why he's going and why it makes the most sense. You know better than me. Yeah, I see, what I told y'all. I told you. Rich, obviously, obviously, this has been something going on when LeBron didn't have,

LeBron was on an expiring contract, and you know there was going to be some decisions that had to be made. Is he going back? Is he going to retire? If he leaves, if and when he leaves and goes somewhere, else. What's he looking for? Either the championship, either the place is, you know, I got Savannah and Zuri's enrolled and she got her volleyball going on. Savannah has us stuff. Bronte is doing his thing. We got Bryce in Arizona. So as you sat down and talked to LeBron,

what became abundantly and crystal clear to you what LeBron was looking for. Oh, man, that's a good question. I mean, you know, I think all of our former athletes It's just uncharted waters. You know, there's very seldom you get to year 24. And number one, you're still playing at such a high level. And then number two, you're still able to contribute and unlock things wherever you may end up. I think the clearest thing was that he wasn't staying in L.A. That was probably the most clear thing.

When did you realize that? When did you realize LeBron is not going back to the Lakers? When he finally told you like, okay, you can start shopping me elsewhere? Yeah, you know, I think, you know, look, you guys know me for, the craziest thing is, all of y'all know me for a long time. So I, you know, I don't fake, but there's nothing to fake here. It was, yeah, just as simple as that, you know. And all those decisions are tough.

obviously you play somewhere for a long time and you know you still want to play the game but you understand your positioning and how you want to go about things and so when he made that clear that was the only clear thing that that that I had possession of everything else you know you just have to

go to work and try to set the table as best as possible to allow him to understand what's in front of him and he's obviously you guys know Bronner is extremely smart with all this stuff So he has a, he has an understanding of what's there. But there are some things that you have to think about that we go through. And believe it or not, you know, I know just as much as you guys know.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, what's good? You know what, Joe? Me and you got an issue, man. What we got to issue about? I ain't seen you, I ain't heard from you. I used to hear from you all the time. What's going on, Joe? You know you, my guy.

I come to little right. Hey, hey, hey. Listen, where is Joe? Hey, hey, is, I keep up with you, man. I see you moving around doing your thing. I'm proud of it. You know, you had several conversations. And, you know, you know the uphill battle what it is and what you got to deal with someone in my position.

And now being an executive role and what I've been able to build along with my colleagues and things like that. You know, we're here, man. Here to stay. Hey, hey, hey, I've seen you whiteboard. Yes, sir. I've seen your white board. I've seen it. I want to know.

You saw one of my white boards. I saw one of you. Okay, one of your white boards. Do y'all got to narrow down to about four or five teams or everybody kind of still wide open? I don't know nothing about no narrowing down, Joe. Well, they're saying he's about to make a decision. We just talked about this since, uh, hold on.

You know this. Sean Devaney. A pair of lips will say anything, man. See, I like going to nightcap, like, have a little fun. I want to come out here. I've been trying to come on here to just hang with you guys, man. But yeah, don't listen.

Don't know that stuff. Don't nobody knows. If I don't know, who know? See? And I'm the only one. Ojo and R.J. No. Ocho and R.J.

No. I'm telling you I know. Listen, let me say. I'm going to say what Rich King say. Obviously, Rich is in a position. He's in a great position. But he says, is it giving a curse to be in a position that he's in, being an executive that he is. So he has to keep it hush.

You have to stand LeBron and Rich and their team in general, how they always been. They've always been two or three steps ahead of everybody else. And what I like to call it, I like to call it playing the waiting game. LeBron is methodical. They're very strategic and they're always ahead of the game. They're always ahead of the curve in everything that they do. His next move has to be his best move. That's what they're thinking.

So I'm just the final way. Stay with me. I'm going to do you now. Look at the landscape of the NBA right now. What is the best thing for LeBron to do? Okay, do I want to go play in the West? In the West? Absolutely not.

Listen, go to state and look good on paper. Does he want to play with Steph? Yes, he's always loved to play with Steph. But at this point in his career, do you want to go to the West and deal with them with them jugginots? No, you don't want to deal with Demble. You don't want to deal with Demble. You don't want to deal with them. So what's the best fit for him?

The East, over there in Philly? Why? You got Maxie need the ball. You got Jailen Brunson. Again, I mentioned earlier, I mean, excuse me, Jalen Brown, you got Embed, sort of clogging up the hole a little bit. He and the way, that don't make no sense. Down here, the 305 in the county, we already been.

Why not bring another trip down here? You can facilitate, you can dictate. Well. You told the place of the games. Well, hey, do I got to worry about my cookies getting taken again? Now, we're good. We're good. I mean, you're telling me that now, but when I get there,

what it's going to be like? It's like a recruiter trip, Joe. They tell you all the good stuff until they get you the side and then all of a sudden, ah, no, it ain't nothing like that. We're going to be good. We're going to be good. Man, y'all funny, man. But let me ask you this.

Okay, hey, listen, Rich. Go ahead, Joe. Rich, damn, can we, I mean, what coast will be on, man? We're going to be on the East. We're going to be on the East. Joe. Hey, Joe, I just explained everything to you. He's in a tough spot.

I'm rich representation right now. I'm his voice. I'm his platform. I'm telling y'all what's going to happen. It just kind of hard to believe. You have another client. And he got traded from the Lakers, went to Dallas. He got injured right there,

and he really didn't get an opportunity to fulfill. Because the way they looked at it, they thought if we got Kyrie, we got AD, and they ended up getting Cooper flag, I would have loved to have seen how that would have panned out. It didn't happen.

But if AD can give them somewhere between 60 and 65 games, with trade, with something to prove after being traded from Atlanta. And AJ DeBonsa, can the Wizards be a problem. I think the Wizards are the top 16 in the East. I think the Wizards are the top 16 in the East, man.

I really believe that because, you know, say what you want about Trey. Look, it's very difficult to play one-on-one basketball defensively in the NBA. I don't care who you. Nobody can guard Joe Johnson, nobody. The best of them. and we had some great defenders.

Tony Allen was the, was, was, was, was the, was, was, was the, was, was the, was, was, was the, was, was the, was the, was the, was the, was the, was the, was the, he was the original, off night. Uh, you had, you had, you had a lot of great defenders back then. It's just hard to defend a guy one-on-one, so now you got to have great team defensive guys, guys that, that can help side defense. Your rotations have to be right. When it comes to being a great team, I think understanding and getting guys to buy in and play a role, play a major factor. the younger the team, you gotta think all these guys are coming from, it was my situation.

They picked the school they wanted to go to, they picked the AAU team they wanted to play on, they picked the high school team they wanted to play on. So now I get to the league, I don't have that. So now who's willing to actually buy in? Who's willing to play a role, right? Because you're not getting 25 shot attempts every night,

not when you got all stars and all NBA type guys in the team, right? And then someone has to sacrifice. So I think if the Wizards, the organization is not of what people would think perceived just because they had a losing record. They're actually doing some really great things there in Washington. They went out and got Will Dawkins and Michael Winger. The leadership group had already been great. So that's never been an issue. You know, Ted and son, Zach are tremendous people.

I just believe that they're going to be a really strong team and a shop to the east this year, given that all cylinders of clicking. I know AJ's coming in as the number one pick, but he's going to have to fit in and play a role. Now, there'll be some nights where he get off and do his thing, no question about it, and he's talented enough to do so,

but it's just all about the buying. And that happens in training camp, that happens in the film room, that happens on a Tuesday night against Saturday night, against Sacramento or against Milwaukee or the young teams that you may see on look and see on paper and say, oh, we should beat them, but then you have to actually beat them because this is the NBA. So you go in there and you're playing me basketball, you won't win. The one thing AD brings to the table is he's a champion, right?

He's been to the finals and won. He's been to the Western Conference finals. When he came to L.A., I think six out of the seven years or whatever he was there, they made the playoffs and maybe five out of the seven. but play high-level basketball the entire time. So he brings that into the locker room. And in addition to they got those wings, they got great. They got really young guards.

And I think they're going to do things the right way. So if there was a sleeper in the east, it's Washington for me. Now, could they be six? Could they be eight? Whatever, you know, a couple games off would dictate that. But, you know, staying healthy, I think they'll be the surprise the league this year. Absolutely. You look at Wimby.

Wimby has an opportunity to sign a super macro contract, 303 million. He takes 250 million. Don't do this to me. And you hear a lot of agents. Don't do this to me, man. I know, but see, I know how you feeling,

but the thing is that second apron. And we hear Brad Stevenson saying, that's why we, you know, we had to move on from Jalen Brown. I don't, whatever the case may be. But I thought winning was the most important. If we're going to win, okay, if we have to go to the first apron, the second apron, hell.

If we got to get an apron, apron, you got to get anachian mama's apron, man, for all that money. Here's the thing. I think, I think there's certain decisions that can be made by certain people. And, you know, if you know Wembe, if you know his representation, both Jeremy and Boone are really great guys. I think he's one of those guys that can actually do it and justify it down there in San Antonio for different reasons.

But I do think that may, I don't know if it sets a trend, but it depends on your situation. And it depends on what's important to you. The way I look at things has always been, you guys aren't going to play forever. I don't know if you're going to play five years, seven years, 10 years, 14. And at some point, you know, your value doesn't stay consistent or doesn't increase. Most people's value decreased, especially after the year five or six. sometimes seven. And I think that's one of those things that is very,

it's misleading for the fans and for people that watch our sport and watch athletes, they think, oh, they make money and they make that level of money all the time. No. The other thing, too, is athletes have to make their most important decisions at their youngest age. See, you guys just like, unlike executives, we keep getting bites at the apple. You know, you can go and do something else. You know, you can reposition yourself.

I work over here for this corporate company. Now I go over here and, you know, the mistakes I made at 35, now I'm making my money at 45 and then I really hit at 55. You guys don't get that. That hardwood don't give. That grid iron don't give. That ice rink don't give. That baseball diamond don't get.

You can't play forever. And so you say, well, you can make it up. Not really. And the other thing is, well, most people can't. And the other thing is, you know, when you, I always say the more years you play in college, just take those years at your highest earning potential and knock it off your career earnings. And so it's tough, right? And so I don't necessarily recommend things, but also I don't represent everybody. but if my client is in a position to where he can do that, like right now, LJ's not making it about

the money. He's not making about the money. We didn't sit back and tell nobody to hold nothing to do, you know, there was conversations, but at the end of the day, you know people got to do what they need to do, but it's not about that. And so that actually makes a decision harder because as you guys as former athletes, when have you ever made a decision that wasn't about the money as an athlete? That always trumps your decision

Because you can say, man, you know what? I really like that team over there But they got a dollar This team over here offering 10 Hey, I got to go get this $10. Just because of the position, I don't know how long I'm going to be able to get that team.

Is that what makes it so difficult? It's because everybody seems to have the damn same amount of money. Well, here's the thing. When you remove the money, now you actually have clarity. You've never seen an athlete being in this position, huh?

Where have you ever seen an athlete be in this position? Where he can sit there and say, oh, don't worry about the money. How? I've never seen it. I don't know. I've been around a long time. It's my 25th season. It's his 24.

I count 25. I don't know. I've never seen that before. And so that's not the only thing that makes it difficult. There's a number of things that makes it difficult. Obviously, being in year 24, you're not in 12 or 14. And so you really have to evaluate things a lot. differently. And, you know, look, we've never going to be rushed to do anything. And we

damn sure don't care about when nobody has to say or think. Not at this point. We don't work too hard to be here. Now we can't be worried about that. I think it's more so just, you know, when the man's ready to make his decision, he makes a decision. But I say all that to say, when you're talking about from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, from, situation. I tip my hat. He's showing leadership with his group of people. And you know that Spurs organization, man, they, you know, they are

first class. And, you know, I think, I don't know how much, I don't see how much was like a $30 million difference or whatever the case may be, $50 million difference over five. So that's 10, Texas, eight. Yeah, you know, it's real money.

But heck, everybody's situation is different. My situation is different. What about the criticism, Rich? They say you're an active agent, and you have a pod, and you're speaking on, you don't only just speak on things that might impact you and your clients, but potentially speaking on things that impact other clients and other agents and other teams.

What do you say to that? Everybody's speaking on everything, huh? Listen, and you're there. For heart-wrenching knock-ass. Breathaking triumph. Let me see. 2026 FIFA World Cup. The knockout stage.

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somebody that look like me that come from what I come from the lack there of a higher education opportunity so why should I care what they have to say when I'm continued to just look at the blaze that's being trailed don't don't worry about what I'm saying just just look at the blaze that's being trail and the opportunity is just given. I have 230, 229, including myself, 30 young people that work. You know, when I

first started my business, nobody believed how hard it was for me to get an opportunity. Not many meetings I had to be, drive runs I had to make and be turned down. And so I think it's not necessarily what's being said. It's the package that

the words is coming in. You know, it's me. And I understand that. And that's okay. But just because it hadn't been done before, it don't mean the right thing to do. And look, there is a responsibility that comes with things. And I know that. But if you really listen and don't focus on the clipping,

even early on this year, I just gave a scenario based upon what my colleague was saying. And I gave a scenario breaking down what could be. And if you, if you, if you dissect it, what was this, what was salt after a big? All I said is it was me. The way I look at it, because as you know, this is what I do. I do this every day all day, evaluate talent. And it's not just, people say, oh, you're just an agent. Well, actually, that's not true. I'm actually the CEO of the company that happens to be an agent. And so, you know, trying to put somebody in a box is the worst thing, especially for me.

I mean, it's just tough to put me in a box because, you know, I know how hard it is. And once somebody turn that water, that faucet off and you go there and you try to turn that faucet on, there's no more water. You still thirst, you got to drink. So you got to create other pipelines, you know, because you know how this thing goes. And so I don't get discouraged. No, discourage me has killed more people than guns. And, you know, I just can't, I can't focus there, man. It's just too tough, hopefully, especially when I know how hard it is to get an opportunity.

And, you know, players have podcasts, you know, the moment that it distracts of getting the way of my day job, then that's a different story. But it doesn't at all. You know, I have missed the beat. We're growing. And we have a lot of fun. And, you know, again, they talked about Jesus, man. So I don't take myself too serious.

Hello. Would you leave your current role to become, to run a team, say like a Rob, like a Leon Rose. Would that something you would consider? No, not right now. Not right now. We're rolling. You see the draft? Hey, hey, hey, hey, speaking of the draft.

I mean, you got one of my favorite players to watch. I watched him at high school. Caleb. Hey, hey, hey, I've been random raving to Arkin, Ocho about how nice he is. And I thought he showed great flashing college. Obviously, him getting hurt. But when you think about it, Rich, that he made seven threes in college, bro. He went seven, four, 11 other night.

Yeah. From three. And they talk about, oh, man, he reminds me a cage. He reminds me at KG. Hell, I seen a lot of KD the other night. Yeah, you know what is? I think, I've always said it. I thought he had the most upside in the entire draft.

And just a tremendous kid, a great family. And he's serious about his approach. He's serious about his profession. When you see the post-game interview, you had 35. He's like, yeah, but we lost. Focus on that. We lost.

And then he talked about how he was emotional going into the game and, you know, being vulnerable and being able to state that, hey, I was emotional. I actually cried because this is my first time playing since I got hurt. The game means that much to me. That's not an act. I'm just letting you know. That's not an act. That is very authentic and true to the core. And, you know, we had, you know, Caleb and Coa Pete and Brain Burry, just an unbelievable draft class this year, man. And, you know, just, you know, just. Just unbelievable young men and family still. That's the thing.

And so, you know, when you talk about going to do something else, you know, obviously, you know, people talk about that. And there's been rumors and, you know, every competitive agent meeting they tell families, oh, which is going to run a team and things like that, I think that's part of the game. But the reality of it is, no, you know, I've booked a real. See, it's a difference between building the business and building the book of business. I built a business. And so it's not that easy to go away from.

And I don't even want to do that, but it's not that easy to go away from. I enjoy what I do getting up every day. I'm in that office every day if I'm not in the golf course, obviously. And, you know, I think it's, I'll say this. I'm honored when people say that because, as you guys know, I come a long way, man. But at the same time, I really enjoy what I do. the moment I stop enjoying it, I won't do it. But right now, I really enjoy what I do.

I have great clients, have great families. We built a tremendous business that stretches far beyond representation. And, you know, every day I get up, I'm still thinking how to get better. I'm still trying to perfect my craft, man, and find different ways of processing and, you know, different verticals. That's not representation. Just a representation adjacent. I'm learning a lot every day.

And so, you know, you learn from young people. You get a lot of young people around you. These kids are smart, man. Very smart. So I'm learning a lot. So, no, not right now, man. Not right now. I'm still a young man.

You know what you're trying to, what you? Why are you trying to get me out of the game? Hey, you're with them? I'm trying to get you out of the game. You're with me or that? Okay, okay. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Rick. Go ahead, Ocho.

No, I got a question. With everything you accomplished, being a CEO, building a business, if you didn't go this route. Yeah. If you didn't go this right, hell, if I didn't play football and football didn't work out, I wanted to be a marine biologist. I want to be a veterinarian because I love animals and I love killer whales. Yeah. What would have been your other route if you didn't get out the way it is. That's a good question.

You know, I was always a people's person, Ocho, you know that. Me and you became, Fran, I ain't played football. Wasn't ever in the bank was blocking room or nothing. You just had a liking for me, you know. And the same way with me and Joe. You know, that's a good question. Look, again, I threw so many things at the wall hoping one stick, man. And then obviously, you know, I think people get it misconstrued when I talk about my journey

and people try to make it that as if I'm not appreciating. of the opportunity at LeBron forgave me. I would tremendously appreciative so much so much so that I couldn't wait to do what I've been able to do and not be dependent of because I think when an athlete give you an opportunity as a friend, as a brother, as a cousin, distant cousin, you know, whatever the case may be, that's not something that you should rest on, you know. That's not to, you know, to make a bed. That's more of like a palette, you know.

And it's just one of those boosters. But then I think the most respect that we can show you guys is to go on and build something. And then you can look back and say, hey, man, you know what? I'm with that. You know, and I try to say that to all the young guys that surround my clients. I tell them, you know, it's on you. There's no way that you should be sleeping. when your guy go to practice and come back from practice.

There's no way. There's no way them cars should be on E or not wash. There's no way the cleaners shouldn't be there. The Amazon boxes shouldn't be by them doors, the garage door, that front door, that snow removal should be on time, you know, that refrigerator, them cleaning crews, all of that because it's just a proper way of doing things. And as you know, I try to get a game and as best as I can, man.

I'm extremely appreciative with an opportunity that was given to me. But at the same time, I know I couldn't lean on that. And the last thing I ever wanted to do was be that guy in section. And then when it's all over, then people ain't picking up your phone calls. You know, I had to build something. They're not picking up your call. They don't care who you used to hang around with. That don't mean nothing.

That's not going to pay the bills. And so I try to express that as best as possible because, you know, I've seen a lot, man. I've seen a whole lot, a whole lot had to deal with a whole lot. And so I don't know, Ocho, I probably would have been in the music, probably in music or fashion, you know, a music or fashion. I could, I could, you know, vice president of global, global marketing at one of these shoe companies or, you know, a mass. manager, music manager. I can manage talent all day long. I'm an NR, too, now. I can pick a lot of records and find writers and get songs made and find the producers. You know, I had a record deal at 25, 24 years old. What you could be? Man, come on, man. Listen, you can sing. I didn't pick singles. I didn't done it all, Ocho. That's just what, again, that's just me.

Well, we know you can pick a single. No, no, no, no, I pick singles. I pick singles. Come on, there you go. Oh, singles, okay? Oh, I'm going to say, I think, Steve goes. Oh, my man, my man, my man. Damn. Yeah. Hey, you know, I'm glad you said that, man.

You know, LeBron, LeBron gave you an opportunity. You know, he threw your layup. And, you know, I sing too. Oh, I can see my, sing, my demo. Hey, you go. Hey, listen, Ocho, I don't know about no layup. May have been the past. I had to make the layout myself.

Right, right, right, right. You know, you can, you can't do anything. You know, I've been trying to get in the music industry in music industry for a little minute. You know, I can. can sing, man. I can see you my demo. This is what we need to do for you.

Because one thing about you, you got it. You're a star. I know you're a star. Listen, we got to surround you with the right writers. Yeah. We got to get you the right reference. We're going to put that auto

tone on you, man, because I know you. You got to put that all of tune on. Oh, you, Ojo. But we're going to do all the other stuff for the theatrical, man. We got to, we got to. Nah, you're going to might need to put auto zone. That doesn't need these car parts.

Hey, um, come on. Hey, um, I could, I can, I could, I'm, I ain't invite you to my show when I performed. No, let's invite you, boy to the show. Rich, let me ask you. I'm going to get you out on this. Uh-huh. Rich, you know what, being in this business, like you say, quarter century. And you've had, you've seen some players have some up and down, you're right well with

LeBron in 2011. Darren Fox had a very similar situation this year. Had, had, you know, he didn't play his best ball. We know Darren Fox is an all-star. He's a phenomenal. talent. What was some of the things that you relayed to him, that you talked to him about after the

series was over. I talked to him a lot. Series over during the series, you know, after games and things like that. You know, anytime you play a sport, you got to have short memory. You got to have short memory. I think people it's it's hard to place a one season

on a not-so-use series. I think we've all seen that from the best of athletes. You know, you don't look like yourself for a series for whatever reason. Shots not falling. Don't have your same quickness or your shift or the timing is off or anything like that. And sometimes it just, you know, you said that black table, that blackjack table long enough. You don't get a bad shoot, maybe one or two of them.

You know, you just got to weather the storm, you know, a new addition made, made the best song ever. Can you stand in the rain? So I think it's, I think during that time, we was just having conversations about short memory, keeping the confidence, you know, understanding that social media is, especially with all the things that's going on with gambling, things like that now. I think the comments and things like that is out of control when it comes to things like that.

So you have to block those things out. But also do other things. Having, you know, not being on scoring don't mean you can't affect the game in a different way. Right. So just trying to keep any time in that situation, you're just trying to keep guys positive, but at the same time, there's a balancing act. You can talk about it, but then you can't talk too much about it, right?

Because at the end of the day, you don't want to be drowned out. And when I say you, I'm saying the athlete don't want to be drowned out with it. You got to, you got to, yeah, get there, go by the house, had a conversation, have a little meal. You may have five, six conversations, and weed a conversation within that conversation, about it and then you move on. But Deer is a professional. I have no doubt that he'll have a good year this year.

We don't make excuses. And so, you know, you got to have accountability in situations like that. And he said it himself, you know. Obviously, you know, he needed to do a better job. And I think given the opportunity the next time, he will. Yeah. Appreciate that, man. Hey, Rich, thanks for stopping by, man.

Yeah, no problem. I know I've been trying to, you know. Hey, tell LeBron, tell, hey, tell, go, when you want to have that big reveal, we take me on nightcap, club, shay, she, she. You know, whatever. Y'all, y'all get on me, man. I don't, listen, I don't know anything.

I know just as much as y'all know, you know. Hey, hey, hey, typically, typically I hit him, Rich. I hit him in a DM. He hit me right back. Hell, I hit him. I said, hey, man, I said, I need you to come on nightcap. I still ain't heard from. Typically, he hit me right back.

Didn't he tell you he was going to do this? He said, I thought y'all was going to do the show. Well, he's going to do it now. But I thought, I don't know, I thought they had a conversation a while back. Hey, his face card good anytime. Yeah, yeah, I know that. He got interest, he got interest to the club. He got interested to the club anytime at any life.

I watch the show, man. I just, I enjoy the show you. And, you know, y'all are my guys, man. So I said, I've been trying to come on and it's tough. So this happened to be the right time. I hit Ash and said, y'all, I hit you. I said y'all on? You said, yeah, they say, yeah, I'm on.

So I appreciate, appreciate you guys having me on, man. Enjoy the rest of the show. Thank you. Appreciate it. Tell the wife we said. I will do. Wish you performed again. Is she toured anytime soon?

Not to my knowledge. Yeah, not to my knowledge. Make your hell about my part, man. To my not to my knowledge. I got blinders on, man. You know. What a day for sure? I'm like this.

Hey, they don't know nothing about that, Rich. They don't know how I'm like that. Yeah, a horse at the Kentucky Derby. All he sees the finish line, man. I don't know who on the map or who's right. I'm just like this. All right, man. We appreciate you, Rich.

All right, man. All right, man. Tell everybody everybody to say what I will say hello. All right, bro. Rich fall, ladies and gentlemen. What's up, fam? It's sports journalist Ari Chambers. Hey, what's up, y'all?

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