Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Russel Westbrook describes the Westbrook experience & we discuss most Toxic fan bases in CFB!

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Joe Johnson react to Russell Westbrook talking about the Russell Westbrook experience, Jrue Holiday is set to return in Game 1 vs the New Yor...k Knicks, & we discuss the most toxic fan bases in College Football, & much more!01:47 - Russ describes the Russell Westbrook Experience09:37 - Nuggets feeling vindicated14:00 - Jrue Holliday set to return after injury19:41 - Number of Players Declaring for the NBA Draft by Yr37:47 - Ravens rookie kicker40:42 - Most Toxic Fan Bases in College Football48:25 - Lego F-1 car49:55 - Q & Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Volume. After the win last night, Russ described the Russell Westbrook experience. A force of nature on the floor. It may be a turnover, it may be a miss shot, it may be a steal, may be a dunk, may be a miss three, may be a made three. It's gonna be all of that. I call it the Russell Westbrook roller coaster.
Starting point is 00:00:36 And he's just laid it out for you. I say, hey, he might shoot an air ball, he might turn it over. You're like, no, Russell, shoot that. Come on, Russ. And then when you least expect it, he'll go four or five from the three. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:51 He'll get two steals. He'll make some big play. Go back and look at the series. Yeah. Hey. He played unbelievable. Short-term memory. You know, he has it.
Starting point is 00:01:02 He's short-term. He got them knees. Yeah, he got them knees. And then, you you know just like your football from week to week you got to put it behind you short-term we got another game well in basketball you play every other night or considering in a in a basketball game in possessions if he come down miss a wide open layup he gonna hustle back, try to get the block or steal. Like, it's a lie. It's a lie. It is. And you have to accept that with him. You have to accept, you have to take the good with the bad.
Starting point is 00:01:33 But just know one thing, he give you everything he got. Come on, hey, Russ, pick it up a little bit. Russ has never had a coach to tell him to pick it up. He might have to say, son, calm, settle down. Hey, come on now, settle, calm. Hey, you come on down, settle down. You okay. You might have to tell him to settle down or calm down, but you never have to tell him to pick it up because he's going to give you that effort and you can appreciate
Starting point is 00:01:55 that and sometime in, in, in, in, in trying to give you everything he got, he's a little out of control. He'll fumble the ball out of it. I mean, the other night he had two point blank layups. There's the boat. Yeah game six But he cut he could buddy come right back come right back down He gonna get you a second he gonna get you extra possessions because he gonna battle somebody for the rebound I saw him last night a line against he ought to get the ruba rebound. He ain't got no business whatsoever When you ever see the six ball guard in the box
Starting point is 00:02:25 trying to get a real miss free throw. Hey, and that's why you gotta love him. That's why you gotta love him. He go, is Russ the X Factor, Menugas against the Thunder? Is he the X Factor? Maybe. If he played well, obviously, they always got a great chance of winning. But I think
Starting point is 00:02:46 this Thunder team is their time, it's their moment. They've been sitting around waiting and I know we can go off rust or whatever the case may be. But I think this is a young team who's prepared and understands the moment and they gonna come out ready Yeah, it's gonna be it's definitely good it's definitely gonna be interesting to see Obviously you need you need yoke and Murray to do what they do I think probably Gordon has been really consistent over the last three to four games He's been really consistent in that that last series against the Clippers He needs to play really well a A big body guy that can defend. Now, but his offense is playing well.
Starting point is 00:03:30 He's knocking down the three. He crashes the glass. If I had to say an X fact, I think they need Michael Porter Jr. Yeah. Yeah. Because sometimes he drifts. Right. But when he's... Go ahead, Joe.
Starting point is 00:03:44 No, but yeah, I agree. If he can get, but when he's, go ahead, go ahead, Joe. But yeah, I agree. If he can get him some consistent, some consistent productivity in this series to where they're able to compete, you know, they always gonna have a great chance. Like I think we all know what Yogi's gonna do. He's gonna make them dudes around him better. And if he has to score 40 or 50, we know he'll do that as well. But uh, I like I like how uh You know the series went throughout the regular season how they played and how okay see
Starting point is 00:04:17 Compete against them. So I just don't think they got nobody who could deal with Shay on the perimeter If you just if I'm just being honest, you know that like I know I think he's gonna be able to pretty much have his way Now, yeah, you probably could put Gordon on him sometime But even him I just I just don't think they I don't think they're going nobody who goes who can stop him No, I think brah. I think Brown will start because he seems to be their best defender But that's what happened when you let KCP go and you let uh, what's the other guy named? They end up letting him go, who was a great defender. Bruce Brown. Bruce Brown, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:46 They let him go. And so now it's really, you left up to Christian Braun cause he's really the only defender. Yeah. The Goren, but I don't think they're gonna put Gordon on the point. They normally put Gordon on the big guy. If it's LeBron or if it's a KD,
Starting point is 00:05:00 guys like your Jason Tatum. I'm saying if he get it going though, I'm saying if he get it going to one of them games, you can't stop him. You're gonna have to. You try to put that light out. You gotta put some size on him. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:12 Cause them guy, he ain't no nut dude. Six, six, six. No, no, no, he's six, seven. Yeah, he gonna get to his spots and raise up and them little dudes ain't gonna be able to do nothing with that. Right. I just gotta make it tough.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I just gotta keep, I gotta keep, hey, Joe, I gotta keep him from the rim and I gotta keep him off with that. Right. I just gotta make it tough. I just gotta, I gotta keep, I gotta keep, hey, Joe, I gotta keep him from the rim and I gotta keep him off the free throw line. If he making threes and pull ups, I got, hey, I can't take every damn thing away. You can't. You gotta live with that. But he's the one dude who has mid-range game
Starting point is 00:05:39 down to the tee. And if nothing, if he can't get his three off and get to the basket, he gonna always be able to get to his middies. So this is what I'm talking about. That's the step that I was talking about that I want, you know, Jalen Green to make and just being able to get to that mid-range because he's so athletic, bro. He can get up once he go into his shot. You can't block that. Right. Yeah. You gotta put that time in the lab though. Ocho, who you like in this series, Ocho? Yo, I like, I series, Ocho? Yo, I'm going with the young bulls.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I'm going with the young bulls. Even though, like, when you ask a question about the X Factor, I think the X Factor would be Russ. Obviously, with Russ coming off the bench, we know what Joker gonna do. If they have a chance to win this series, if the Nuggets do have a chance, I think Russell would have to be the difference maker.
Starting point is 00:06:26 He'd have to be the difference maker. Obviously Porter has to do what he needs to do. Murray is going to be Murray. And you know what Joker could do. I really think Russell Westbrook has to be that X Factor in order for them to even have a chance to win this series. But I think the thing about making OKC so tough is that they got guys coming off the bench that sit in the chair.
Starting point is 00:06:50 They're mainly there, they're sitting in the chair, but they can knock down threes. You look at Caruso, you look at Isel Joe, you look at Wiggins, they got guys. Wallace, yes. And you know, you still got Lou Dora, you got Jalen Williams. So they got six guys that are 3-and-D guys. There ain't very many teams that have that many guys that are 3-and-D guys.
Starting point is 00:07:14 And they got two guys. You sound like you going with OKC too. It's hard to go against your game. It is, man. It's hard to go against Joe Gaber. It is man. It's hard. Because you can see him. It's hard. Because in some sense you can kind of see him going in there showing out.
Starting point is 00:07:35 You can kind of see him. Because it's MVP. Yeah. It's the two league candidates for the MVP. Right. Let me show you why I should win it. 45, 19, and 13. Yeah, hey listen, we wouldn't be surprised if we see no stat numbers, but yeah, I totally
Starting point is 00:07:52 understand that they're definitely capable of winning the series. I just seen some holes in their defense. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They definitely have some lapses. Absolutely. Yeah. The Nuggets are feeling vindicated at the late season fight of the GM and coach. If we don't make the change, there's no way we're ever even in a game seven. A Nugget executive told Ramona Shelbourne,
Starting point is 00:08:19 Yokich, I think the owner wanted to change something, to change the energy. And probably he did. No, he did, ain't no problem, he did. He got the results he was looking for. I mean, you would have got those results regardless to who was the coach, because the player that was- That's not what they're saying. If the exec say that, in the best way on the team,
Starting point is 00:08:39 I'm gonna take your word for it, don't you? Okay, you right, you right. You right. I'm just thinking about me as a play Me as a player regardless of who my coach is I still have a job to do once I go in between those hashes and that green grass. I'm gonna make sure Well maybe the coach ain't put you in the best situation. That's why you ain't getting the job done Hmm. Yeah. Oof.
Starting point is 00:08:58 They definitely played with a sense of urgency I would say in this first round, you know knowing that they probably doing it Playing for the interim coach. Yeah Yeah, they want him that they they want him to so, you know, it's different man When you got when you got a pretty good coach and got on a place only they want to do good for them They want them to look good. You can yeah guys out there. They baller good for them. They want them to look good. You can tell guys out there, they balling. Jokic just led his team in points, rebounds, and assists in a playoff series for the ninth time in his career. That's the second most all-time trailing only LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:09:42 24th series, LeBron James led his team in points, rebounds, and assists 24 times. Yokeage has now done it 9 times. But what about, I thought they told me all that help LeBron had. LeBron shouldn't be doing this though, it's a joke. Something ain't adding up now. Make it make sense. 2 plus 2, why is it five and six? It's supposed to be four.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Look, Yoke is, I mean, Yoke is amazing, man. I mean, I'm going to have to find me, I got to find me another player because LeBron going to be gone in a couple of years. So I need to find me another player I can get behind and root for. We just talked about him I don't know what you wait no we just talk we just Yeah, what you mean we just talked about him Yeah, we just talked about him. Headband for the crib too. Headband from Georgia. Yeah Hey, you got something out here in the waters, man. I don't know what it is. Yeah, man
Starting point is 00:10:44 He's got something out here in the waters, man. I don't know what it is. Yeah, man Man, you already put Luca down like cuz I always I had already said like five years ago I say, uh when LeBron leave I'm gonna have to get over have to get with Luca. Nah, man Lucas Lucas Lucas cool Lucas cool great player, but Man, don't let me tell you bro. If you want to stay a Lakers fan, die hard so you can root for Lakers. No, no, no. I ain't no Lakers fan. I'm a LeBron fan. I follow LeBron. Okay, so you saying, okay, so you root for Luka, then basically you're going to be a Lakers fan, though. Yeah, I may have to go outside of Lakers. I ain't no, I'm a LeBron fan. I follow LeBron from Cleveland to Miami, back to Cleveland to LA now. If he go somewhere else, you know what? If he go home, hell, I'm going home too.
Starting point is 00:11:30 You going with Go-Jane? I'm going with Go-Jane, dammit, I ain't rooting for nobody. Hold on, what you mean if he go home? What you mean if he go back to Cleveland? No, if he go, if he retire. Oh, if he retire. I'm retiring, I'm failing him too. Oh man, now you can't do it
Starting point is 00:11:46 It's oh, he go he gonna be around for at least another year to on he ain't going to work I believe he got at least two more, you know, yeah. Yeah, play it off the ball like that Yeah, you gotta give him a little more help though, man. Gotta give him some size They gotta get him a big and they put too much pressure on my boy You know, you gotta get him a big I mean we, we got a big, I mean, look at Miles Turner, they had 13, look at everybody big. Jared Allen had points today. I big, ain't he played in game five.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Damn. And then in the other game he had two points. What am I supposed to do with that? Can we get a big to give us 10 points? 10, give us 10 to 16 on a nightly base, that's all. Y'all had a all. That's it. Bad first round matchup, man, on Trump. Bad first round matchup.
Starting point is 00:12:31 True Holiday is set to return from injury. Game one versus the Knicks, Holiday will make his return to the floor after missing the final three games of Boston's first round series with a hamstring strain. How important is it for them, because he's probably going to match up with Brunson. He'd probably take Brunson. But you got a bunch of guys you can throw at Brunson.
Starting point is 00:12:51 You can throw Derrick White at Brunson. You can throw Holliday at Brunson. You can put Jalen Brown on Brunson. You put Holliday coming off an injury out there in front of Brunson, you're going to pull something. You're going to pull something. What? He gonna pull something. Put Derrick White on it. Yeah, you can put Derrick White on it.
Starting point is 00:13:08 He gonna sauce Derrick White up too. You can put Jalen Brown out there on it too. He gonna sauce Jalen Brown up there too. You gotta understand, everybody, you're naming players that are really good, you're naming players that are defensive players, but everyone Jalen Brunson goes against, he gonna get to his spot.
Starting point is 00:13:24 He gonna drive, he gonna use his body. He gonna do what he always do, regardless of who he is out there. I'm trying to make him as inefficient as possible. That's all I'm trying to do. Okay, okay, okay. He gonna get to his spot. Hey, he get 33, I'm trying to make him take 30 shots to get it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:36 That's all I can do. You're just trying to weigh him down. You're just trying to get different looks, different bodies. Hopefully, look, they just come out of grueling series as well He was banged up a little bit in that series so he carried on to the next series. You know that We get ready. We got to make it tough on him. I'm trying to hound it Would you like it like Joe Joe said he just came out of seven game series. He's average in 40 42 minutes a night Yeah, yeah, so hey
Starting point is 00:14:01 See pick him up. Do you what do you white you got it. Hey, Jalen, you got it. Holiday, you take it. Oh, yeah. We just go, hey, paint Pritchard. Hey, be pissed. Yeah. Just buzz around like a nab. Annoying the hell out of it. Hey, I'm sure the sellers will have to have him back because like you said, Jalen Brunson is the one guy
Starting point is 00:14:26 that really can create his own shot. It's gonna be interesting to see the matchup. They'll probably put OG on Tateum. This is what they got. I'm thinking probably take Josh Hart, probably have him on Jalen Brown. Who Bridges gonna go on? Who you putting Bridges on?
Starting point is 00:14:43 Oh, Bridges, you know what? I think Bridges might, you know what? Bridges might take Jalen Brown. Yeah. And then Josh Hart take Derrick White. Yeah. And OG on Tatum. Yep. Yeah. This is why they wouldn't got OG. Hey, but here's the thing. Who y'all might, and I guess, Rosengus and Kat.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Or Al Horford and Kat. Yeah. Or Al Horford and Kat. Yeah. What you got, what you got? You got Knicks and Six? I got the Celtics. Oh, my bad.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Okay. I got the Celtics. Joe? I got the Celtics. Celci-fine. Ah, nah, that. Ha ha ha. The five always.
Starting point is 00:15:24 It's always, y'all. It's always. Celci-fine. I got the sales of the old Joe. You know, a very experienced scene, you know, obviously, and they've been playing well. They know what these battles are like and they've had the Knicks number, you know, over the years. Yeah. You know, I don't even think this is gonna be a long series. I actually think it's gonna be a short one, actually. Sweep it? I ain't saying sweep.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I ain't saying. What the hell about you? You ain't like my fire prediction. Well, hell go, you don't like that pick. Go with six. I'm saying you got it. You wore the five out. Oh, the five.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Oh, come on. What the hell? Wait. We got the. I'm saying you got it you wore the five out. I got to bring it back. Laker we got to find something that's catchy I mean for the Celtics. Joe you remember they brought the seat in they brought the bell bottom pants back remember the bell bottom jeans they back in style. Bell bottom dread pants back in style. Everybody everything come full circle. Full circle. Yeah, everything come full circle. But yeah, I say this, I do got the sell tickets in five. I say the Knicks will win the game.
Starting point is 00:16:33 ["Sailor's Guide to the New World"] ["Sailor's Guide to the New World"] Gotta bring something very interesting for the both of you guys. The number of players declaring for the NBA draft by year. In 2020, in 2021, it was 353. In 2022, it was 283. In 2023, it was 242.
Starting point is 00:16:55 In 2024, it was 201. This year, it's only 106. The NIL, Monday Ocho, got the boy like, you know what? Let's go on and stay here? Get a quick 250 500 you gonna give me that money and I'm gonna stay right here in college Yeah, listen also the opportunity with the great understanding your chances of making it to the NBA and actually playing in the NBA You're making that squad. It's only a team what 15 right? How many players it is? 15 a team. Yeah, so you got about 400 players. Yeah, man
Starting point is 00:17:28 450 I'm gonna bet on myself in college and get as much as I can and that's 450 that's every year That ain't just this year. Yeah And like the ass 460 next year look look if you 50, 60 guys coming in every year, you got 50, 60 leaving every year. So that's history. And that's why I tell Cass, as hard as it is to make it to the league, bro,
Starting point is 00:17:52 it's even harder to stick. You know what I mean? It's harder to stick because once you get there, you can't exhale. You know what I'm saying? You gotta keep going. You gotta keep pushing. You gotta work even harder.
Starting point is 00:18:02 So, you know, I tell Casper all the time, bro Can't get his heart is Joe. I and that's what I tell football player. I say bro it It's easier to get in the league and stay right then get out the league and try to get back in. Yeah Yeah, cuz do you think it's hard getting in get in and get out and try to get back? Yeah, unless you unless you're a quarterback and you got to be decent. Yeah, and what they say in the stadium, you know, you go to the game, you lead into the arena, you can't get back in. What you in? See, I got a ticket. Even if you got a ticket, they're like, nah, nah, bro, you're a lefty. We can't let you back in the game. And that's how they feel about sports. It's like, bro, I was just here a year ago.
Starting point is 00:18:47 I was only going a year. Y'all making it seem like I was going a decade. Right. Well, a lot of other people done came in, bro. We the NFL, they had 70 early declarations in 2025, down from 82 in 2023. And I'll change the game. College athletes aren't finding value in risking turning pro when they can earn six, seven figures right here.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And that's what I'm saying. Why am I gonna go to the NFL hole show if there's a possibility, man, I'm gonna get me six million and stay right here quarterback. But also you have to understand the people that are choosing to go back. They questioning themselves. You question yourselves with great understanding.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Well, hell, if I know what I'm gonna get going to the NFL and entering the draft, it's because I know I'm that boy. Because you know what you're gonna get. I told Quinn, what did I tell you, Ocho? If I'm Quinn yours, I take my butt, I go jump into that portal, and I go somewhere else, and I make me three, four million dollars a year. And do one more, huh?
Starting point is 00:19:43 Yes! As opposed to be a fifth or sixth or seventh round draft pick. Right. And I make me three, four million dollars a year. And do one more, huh? Yes! Yeah. As opposed to be a fifth or sixth or seventh round drive pick. Right. Cause I believe he could have built his value. He could have been, you know, who knows, a first or second day pick. Yep. And picked up a three, four million.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I would have. Cause if Carson Beck jumped in the portal and got four million from the University of Miami, Yeah. Which called I'ma leave him, because you know, look at his last name, high spell, I'ma leave him. That's what he did to Tennessee. He left. Now I don't know why he left for a state like Tennessee with no state income tax to go to California to take three, four hundred thousand dollars less where there's 50% state tax. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Make it make sense. Make it make sense, Ocho. I don't know, listen, I don't know who was advising him. I'm not sure where he thought he can make more. But again, I always tell you, if you deserve what you was asking for, they would have gave it to you where you was at because that's where they thought of you.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Okay. I was asking for it, they would have gave it to you where you was at because that's where they thought of you. All right. Ooh! All right, Ocho, got another one for you. What happened? Shadour Sanders was reportedly pissed at the Giants during his private pre-job visit per Albert Brear. The Giants won, they give players an install, and there are mistakes intentionally put in the install.
Starting point is 00:21:06 He didn't catch them and got called out. He was pissed they did that to him. Now before we get into this, Ocho, I told you, you and I had a conversation. I said, Ocho, unless teams tell us what their draft grade is on Chador, then and only then can we, the Cleveland Browns says,
Starting point is 00:21:24 we didn't have a first or a second day grade on him. I mean a first day grade on him. They said that. So unless the other 31 teams come out and tell you, Ocho, man I don't know why. Okay, I had this grade on him. Some teams say they had him as a third day option.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Right. Alba, Britt, and Ocho, we was talking. I said, normally Joe, what they do with the quarterback, they bring in the quarterback, they'll send plays and look, OK, here's the plays we want you to break them that want you to diagram, blah, blah, blah. Or they'll get you in, says, OK, here's the play. Two jet, flanker drive, red right, red right,
Starting point is 00:22:00 two jet, flanker drive, OK? Z motion. So the Z is the flanker. Okay. He got the drive route Tied in got the basic cross We're gonna run we can run the dig we can run we can run a dig or we could just have the The X run a post to clear it out to make sure ain't nobody you know backside, right? And you know got the rim right, got the bat, check it. So we tell you that.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Okay, we tell you, okay, what's happened this, if you get this front, this is where you go with the ball. You get this covered, you go over to the ball. So now, Ocho, you know the play is long now. They got this, Red Ryke, Yogi, Sample, X-Bed, the burst, the this, the that. Right. So they tell the quarterback this. Now they show it to him on the board,
Starting point is 00:22:46 then it goes dark and they say, okay, go draw the play on the board. And they want you to regurgitate what you sold them. Because as a quarterback, you have to have great recall. Because if they call that damn play, Joey, you'll have it. You got to regurgitate it. Plus you got to know, if I get this coverage, I go here. If I get that coverage, I go here. If I get this coverage I go here. Yeah, I get that coverage I go here if I get hot I go here, right? But a lot of times they're like You know, we want you to like be a quarterback, right? Now knowing what you've heard Cleveland Brown said we didn't have a day one grade on
Starting point is 00:23:23 We had a more like a fourth or fifth, you know, fourth, fifth round grade on it. Okay. Fine. The Giants, send him play to install, intentionally put mistakes in. He didn't catch the mistakes. They told him he got upset that they didn't tell him. Oh Joe, what's your thoughts? I mean, listen, I, I understand teams have to do their just do
Starting point is 00:23:49 when it comes to these meetings, these interviews, going over plays and having installs and having quarterbacks go up and explain plays. There are a lot of people, uncle, that play the game of football, that can go into these meetings and these interviews and ace, and ace them. They can point out every mistake,
Starting point is 00:24:08 they can do everything right. And you turn on the film, they sorry him, the motherfucker. They sorry as hell. Can't play a liquor ball, but they're great in the film room. They're great in, and it comes with drawing up plays, but when it's time to play where it actually matters On game day on Sunday at one o'clock. They're horrible
Starting point is 00:24:31 We know what you get with Shadoor when he plays the game of football on Sunday We watched him do it at Jackson State. We watched him do it in high school We watched him do it at a very bad institution and turning that program around in Colorado. Yep. So what you're telling me about him not knowing and him missing mistakes on something you purposely try to trip him up on, okay, he didn't see it. He didn't see it. But I know what I get on the field.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Why even play this game? What game are we playing? What are you proving by purposely putting mistakes in there? He's a rookie. He's coming in. He's young. Of course he's gonna miss it. Of course he's gonna miss stuff like that. Who wouldn't at the position? Yeah, that's not his plays. If you want to give you the game, his plays at Colorado and then try to slip that in. Because my position coach in devil would do that sometimes. And
Starting point is 00:25:28 I was like, you know, I was like, nah, this is not a 70. This is a 50 protection, 50 protection, you know, I mean blocking. So 70 protection, I'm free to go. So you, who you call a play knowing, you know, and we had, we had live colors, you know, blue Detroit, that's a live color that, you know, we get a stretch, we get over what we call a bare front, a bare stretch or Navajo. We call it Navajo. Some people call it what it Joe, I'll be teaching a little football. When you have the center and both guards cover, that's called a bare front.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Okay. Yeah. Now, if you want to stretch it, we put somebody over, we put somebody over the tight end and we put the defensive end outside. That's called a bear stretch. Okay. 85 bears made that defense. That's a buddy Ryan defense. So bear, uh, both guards center covered. That's a bear defense. Now you stretch it, you put some other over the tight end, you put the deer in outside.
Starting point is 00:26:25 So that's a four down lineman. And he found out the way, the way you beat that defense, because what teams were trying to do, they were trying to take the tight end and block Richard Deer. Oh, Richard. Bad idea. Hold on. And so if you did that, if you went out the blocking, the guy over you would come hit your quarterback in the back of his head. So they say, hold on. And so if you did that, if you went out the blocking, the guy over you would come hit your quarterback
Starting point is 00:26:45 in the back of his head. So they say, hold on, how about we do this? We fake like we gonna watch, block this guy. When he see that he gonna come, we just raise up and throw you the ball. Right. Or what we do, we'll slide it or we'll Molly the protection. We'll take the tackle, we'll kick to him
Starting point is 00:27:04 or we'll take the guard to Molly out'll take the tackle, we'll kick to him or we'll take the guard to molly out to him. They started blocking it up. People got out of the bear defense because you're one on one. Joe, no, so you said, why play these games? Why put the mistakes in there? What are we doing? Just have the man regurgitate the play. Draw it up. Okay Okay. Here it is. It's your door This is one of our best plays right here is this da da da da da? Okay, you see this coverage We want coverage with such a if the coverage though this cover one single high safety Now if we had quarters coverage or if we wanted cover six what we call cover six jokes
Starting point is 00:27:39 We play quarters on one side. We play cover six have to feel on the backside six kick That means a we press on the two side on Joe. That's where the kick come in. We're playing quarters, one side, half the field on the other side. That's why we call it six. Two, four, six. Okay, now, Go should do a quarter play. You go into the line of scrimmage.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Now I done told you, I done gave you three days. This is where we go with cover one. This is where we go with quarters. This is where we go with cover six. Go to the cover, you call me. It's cover one, it's cover one. Blue, 17. No, no, no, it's six, it's six, it's six.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Boom. You see how chaotic he get? Yeah. Quarterback gotta remain calm though. Yeah. Because they joshing around, Ocho, you know, they starting one thing, they dealing, dallying around, they rocking, rolling them safeties.
Starting point is 00:28:35 They safety day, they too deep, now here he come. No, they shoot back the other way. You remember by the Steelers, hell, Troy Pallimallo be in the line of scrimmage. At the line of scrimmage. And the next thing you know, hell, he in the hole or he in two-eats. Right where he's supposed to be at, yup. So that, and I get it, but look, hey.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I mean, look, when you turn the film on, OK, Ocho, when you watch the Shadour, like, for me it's like the film shows the poise and patience that he has in the pocket, although, you know, we, everybody say, you know, his line wasn't great. I thought he, I thought he showed tremendous poise and patience. Yeah. Yes. And I feel like, I feel like his talent will show in game situations. You got some guys, man, who are just performers, bro.
Starting point is 00:29:19 They just, they just know how to perform. I've seen guys who wasn't great practice players, but man, you put them in the game, they know how to perform. And I've seen guys who wasn't great practice players, but man, you put them in the game, they know how to perform. And I feel like that's when his talent is shown. I think he'd get his opportunity. I think he'll get in there and he'll get a chance to show what he can do. And his talents will be on display. But I think he's getting a knock for not having the athletic prowess
Starting point is 00:29:44 that his daddy has or getting paid. And it's just not who he is as an athlete. Yeah. As he has the opportunity, I think it's a blessing in disguise. The Browns have struggled on trying to find a quarterback since Bernie Kozar and finding someone consistent, someone that can be a quarterback for that franchise for a decade straight. And I think God put him in this position and sending him to Cleveland on purpose to give him that drive and that hunger.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Not that he didn't have it already, but to give him that drive and hunger to show everyone that passed on him and obviously show the Cleveland Browns that you made the right decision and bringing me here. So I'm happy for him despite, you know, what happened, you know, having to go in the fifth round. I don't know, I think it's probably done a little fire upon him, he gonna be all right. He gonna be all right.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Cause he's definitely gonna beat everybody out. He's gonna beat everybody out. He might not beat Flacco out, but if Flacco struggles at some point this season, they gonna make that change. Now Flacco gonna not look. Flacco gonna have 350. Three touchdowns, but three picks too now. Yeah. Now Flacco, he a equal opportunity employer. He gonna help you, he gonna help them. Joe, is there any similar situation to like, so what's the NBA pre-draft? What is it like? NBA pre-draft Yes, you know guys go there and you do the agility tests
Starting point is 00:31:10 I don't think guys sit out, you know from from what I can remember Especially when I had to go through it man, you had we had to do everything Right now now what they've implemented is, you know, you see a lot of guys They had to play five on five now scrimmages back when I was coming out Guys had to do that. Okay, I'll show you know what I mean? Wow, you go to a team You have these individual workouts where okay, so I worked out for the top ten teams in the NBA draft in 2001 So I worked out for ten teams and then damn in those work. Yeah, they were working me like a dog So in those workouts in those workouts
Starting point is 00:31:45 They invite two maybe three more other guys so y'all can play two on two so y'all can play one on one So we can see who is what and you cook it up joke man. Listen, I would get Out to get to the chicken because coming out I wasn't uh, I wasn't a you know a top prospect to some degree. Guys would tell me I was going to go top 10, but I didn't know, so I had to work out for the top 10 teams. And guys who were coming out in my time, who was before me, well, you know, that was a high school draft, the Kwame Brown, the Tyson.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah. But you still had Jason Richardson, the Shane Shane Batier's, you know, guys like that. So I was looking to work out against those type of dudes, you know, to try to improve my draft stock. And I ended up getting drafted 10, but I don't know, after 10, I had worked out for the end of the mother team, so I wouldn't know what it would have been like. Right. José, I'm cooking something. I don't know about y' have been like. Right. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Jose, I'm cooking something. I don't know about y'all, but I'm cooking today. Man, look, you get once in a lifetime, bro. Like, it's like, it's like, it's so close. It's right there in your hands and you like, it's gonna be left up to you, especially in those workouts, you know, to them. Right. These scouts, these coaches, these executives,
Starting point is 00:33:01 GMs, things of that sort. So, man, I think those are the moments that we all live for. We trying to compete for a roster spot. Oh yeah. That's exactly right. ["Rap Star"] Raven's rookie kicker Tyler Luke hit a 75-yard field goal with ease.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Luke has a cannon for a leg. Does Baltimore have their replacement for Justin Tucker, Ocho? I mean, no, I wouldn't say that yet. Justin Tucker, one of the greatest kickers of all time. I know he struggled last year, struggled a little bit before that, but just because you have a strong leg, that doesn't mean you're consistent. It doesn't mean you're gonna be consistent in clutch situations when Justin Tucker has always been. Having a strong leg is cool. I mean, that's nice being able to kick from 75 yards. That's also nice.
Starting point is 00:33:47 But can you do it when the game is on the line? Pressure. Yeah. Can you do it when it's windy? So there's so many other factors that come into him being having a strong leg, but also being a great clutch kicker in situations where it matters most. Because it's easy to do it right now. It ain't no pressure on you.
Starting point is 00:34:04 No. Ain't no pressure. Ain't no line. it right now. It ain't no pressure on you No pressure ain't no line ain't no crowd ain't no fans No, there's nothing else affecting you and kicking 75 yards, but can you do it when it matters when it matters most? Right man. Have all these kids got legs now I mean, I mean I don't know guys they wouldn't even let you attempt no 60 yard Right now these guys like okay to get about five more yards at 60 yards. These guys kept from now a 50 yard field goal is like a 50 yard field goal. It's like a PAT. That's a layup.
Starting point is 00:34:31 That's a layup. That's a layup. And these guys got, these guys got, I mean, when I was in, I mean, only a handful of guys was, could be consistently accurate from 50 plus. Yeah. I mean, they was trying to get that thing 45 and even. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:44 But now. And they get, Oh Joe, you miss a 55 yarder. They like what what happened? What happened is 55 yards? Remember remember the goalpost a little bit more narrow now You know, you know, I can you know, I kicked 65 yards to that Yeah. Oh Lord. Here we go. No, I promise you, man. Listen, hey, listen, now you know, who was the backup kicker for the Bengals for a decade straight? They didn't have to use you, and thank God they did.
Starting point is 00:35:13 OK, they did use me. They used me when we played the Patriots now, so you know I can kick. In the preseason. I know, the preseason. If he had got hurt in the regular season, I was still the backup kicker. Oh, you kicked one in the preseason, don't you?
Starting point is 00:35:25 Yeah, what? Hey, listen, Joe, it would have been good for 50. Oh, Lord. Hey, matter of fact, chat, chat, can somebody please send this to, ask the chat. There's video of me, footage of me kicking 65, kicking 70. Like look at chat, go on Google it. Yeah, kicking the ball. You weren't kicking no field goals, no, kicking 70. Like look at your chat, go on Google it. Ask him. Yeah, kicking the ball.
Starting point is 00:35:46 You weren't kicking no field goals, no 65 or 70. No, I'm talking about field goals. Somebody in the chat, man, please show, man, me kicking from 65. Oh, you got Google it, YouTube it, it's on there. Hey, with ease too, huh? Like it would have been good from 73. It ain't good enough that he was kicking 50, 60, 70 yards.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Nah, he kicking it with ease. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I got a soccer background, Joe. So, you know, I do a little bit of everything, man. Oh, okay, I see, I see. And league college football recently ranked the most toxic fan bases in college football. Number one, Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Number two, Florida. Number three, Georgia. Number four, CU, wow, number five, Miami, number six, Tennessee, number seven, Texas, number eight, Alabama, number nine, FSU, number 10, Michigan. Five of the top 10, where do you play football at, Elcho? NCC. NCC?
Starting point is 00:36:47 Hey, wait, hey. I still haven't had a chance to really go to these games and really understand. You gotta go, listen, go to University of Georgia, go to Tennessee. I went to Tennessee with my daughter. She was on a visit. Go to Alabama. You gotta go, you gotta go to one of those. You gotta go.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I've been to a Tennessee game and a LSU game. That's it. In Arkansas, you gotta go watch the Razorback. Go Alabama, UGA. Now, take San Am, to see 105. 105 what? Thousand. In the stadium?
Starting point is 00:37:24 Maybe rockin'. Yeah, maybe rockin'. Oh Joe, you know the stadium? Yeah, in the stadium. Yeah, they be rocking. Oh Joe, you know the South, look, you grew up in Florida. And that's what I tell people, when you play in the South, football is it. Yeah, it's different. They closed down, you swear playing a small town, they close early. Mm-hmm. They gotta, you gotta go to the game.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Hold on. That's why in Texas they got high school stadiums that hold 20,000. A high school stadium. That looked better than some college with their weight facilities. Football is king. It man look here. And that's what we talking to. Well, uh, we went to a, we were on tour and, uh, we had somebody at camp and
Starting point is 00:38:03 you don't talk about, I said, bro, ain't nothing, Georgia Bulldogs in the state of Georgia? And that about went to Super Bowl 10, they in place at UGA. Oh, sir. Them dogs. It's a football team, yes, sir. And then they go to Braves.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Yeah, yeah. You're talking about somebody that lived there. Yeah. What? Oh, Joe, yeah. You're talking about somebody living there. I read that. Yeah. What? Ojo. Man. And when they used to end, when they used to play, I don't know, they might still do,
Starting point is 00:38:33 they still do. They play at Jacksonville Stadium. Boy, at 16, coming out 16 to get down on 95 to go down to Jacksonville. Yeah. Man. Yeah. They. Yeah. They love some football in the South, man. I'm not surprised.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I gotta see that. Hey, look, but I'm surprised to see you. When the see you get such a rabid fan base, you base this off two years. Ha ha ha. Prime effect, baby. Yeah. In Miami, I know Miami, y'all just show up
Starting point is 00:39:03 because in Miami, they don't come to nothing on time No, we don't we don't get there in the second quarter Exactly. We're gonna get there in the second quarter. Yes, Florida, Georgia. Yes, Tennessee, Texas, Alabama Michigan, Florida. I don't know what y'all been rapping about y'all been y'all ain't been good in a minute. I Mean listen the best obviously the best college when it comes to college football in Florida, now UM had a phenomenal year last year, but FAMU is the best college football team here in the state of Florida. You like FAMU?
Starting point is 00:39:36 FAMU is, listen, FAMU is everything. We gotta find HBCU, we gotta rank the top 10 HBCU fan bases. Well, number one is FAMU, we gotta rank the top 10 HBCU fan bases. Well, number one is FamU. Top the bottom. Oh no, Ocho. I think it might be Grammys or Southern. Come on, wait, come on. With our human jukebox?
Starting point is 00:39:52 Man, our human jukebox? Listen, with all due respect, with all due respect to the human jukebox, they were nothing. They will never be comparable to the incomparable Marching 100. Don't do that. Oh, that'll pass y'all. That'll pass y'all. That'll pass y'all, bro. Yeah, that'll pass y'all. The jukebox is where it's at.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Why you trickin' me? The jukebox. Man, listen, man. Listen, man. Dr. White and Brother Shelby Chipman have done a wonders. They have done a wonder with the Marching 100. Done a wonders. But that jukebox.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Nah, listen. No, man. Oh, Joe, that one, they ain't even, oh Joe, they ain't bringing up the two records. That wasn't even the four jukebox that we had. I know, I know, listen, I've been watching Southern for a very long time and chat, listen to me. If there's anybody, oh Young, I pray you probably
Starting point is 00:40:37 won't do this, but it's just for me, you know how much I love the band. Anybody in the chat that went to HBCU and might have played in the band, let me tell you how much I love Southern. Still to this day, I always watch. It's on YouTube. It's called the fifth quarter.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Obviously, you know it, the fifth quarter after two HBCU teams played. They had the fifth quarter at the end of the game, but they go back and forth. Bad little bands. Boy, the Human Jukebox versus Alcorn State in 2014. Chat, if y'all have any time to go on YouTube and watch Southern versus Alcorn State in 2014. Chat, if y'all have any time to go on YouTube and watch Southern versus Alcorn State in 2014,
Starting point is 00:41:09 boy, you will enjoy it. It was a masterpiece from both schools back and forth. But when it comes to HBCU marching bands, there is nothing, nothing like that school, the highest of the seven hills down in Tallahassee, Florida that looked like a reptile, known as the rattlers. Nothing like them, nothing, and I stand on that. They gonna put on a show.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Man, every time. Only one school is Mars for the president, man. Only one school is going to play for the president, man. We done been everywhere, all over the world. We different, huh? We strike different. What you mean we? You went to Oregon State. Wait, time out, time out. You know, I wasn't able to go to FAMU. I ain't had no grades coming out of high school. But listen, I'm an honorary member. I'm an honorary member. And I'm an ambassador for FAMU.
Starting point is 00:42:06 member and I'm an ambassador for FAMU. Teddy, hey what a dog, what a dog at? Joe what a dog at? He's tired of putting up, tired of sleep. Tired of sleep. I'm talking about Joe, I want to see Joe dog. He roaming the property right now, Ocho. He got- Oh, you got property? Boy, you got money. Property? And he ain't saving it in the yard. Nigga say he on the property. Ocho, you gotta chill. Ocho, you gotta chill.
Starting point is 00:42:32 You gotta chill, Ocho. You gotta chill. But the hoes say he on the property. He got a real, he doing his job right now. He doing his job. Boy, you got money. I'm gonna put him on, I'm gonna bring him on camera for you. But yeah, bring him on.
Starting point is 00:42:43 The camera's just like, he the same color as Hulk dog. He brown with that black mask. Yeah, he bite? Yeah, he bite. Yeah, yeah, I, yeah. He got teeth, don't he? Yeah, I rough, I rough. There ain't something that got teeth that don't bite.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I mean, I rough your dog up. Who? Me. All right, you gonna put the suit on? You gonna put the suit on later? I don't need no suit. I don't need no suit. Just let, just, just, just, you got commands for him, right?
Starting point is 00:43:12 Yeah. Yeah, just command him to attack and watch what I do to him. No, I ain't got to command him nothing. All you gotta do is be in the backyard. I ain't gotta say nothing. I ain't gonna tell, I ain't gonna say a word. But, I ain't gonna say a word. I ain't gonna say a word.
Starting point is 00:43:24 I ain't gonna say a word. I ain't gonna say a word. I ain't gonna say a word. I ain't gonna say a nothing. I ain't gonna say a word. But I know you done see that thing on YouTube where that Amazon driver, that UPS Amazon driver, he hopped over that fence back. You see how he jumped in? With the package in his hand. I see what delivered, looked like he was delivering an Uber Eats and that big dog came through the screen though
Starting point is 00:43:49 And to catch him a little bit he would have buddy. Yeah. Oh, yeah Rolls out the full-size Lego cars for the Miami Grand Prix drivers parade made of 400,000 Lego bricks it took parade made of 400,000 Lego bricks. It took 22,000 hours to build. The Lego F1 cars reached the top speed of 20 kilometers an hour. Did you go to F1? Yeah I was there all day. I was out there you know partying, shaking hands, smiling, you know giving hugs, kissing babies. I enjoyed it. I went to qualifiers. I didn't go to the actual race today, but I did enough of what I needed to do
Starting point is 00:44:28 during the qualifying race. It was good. I prefer, I love NASCAR. I love the people that come to NASCAR. I love those that come out to enjoy and do what they do. I prefer- That's a totally different fan base
Starting point is 00:44:40 than what that is. Yes, I prefer NASCAR. Me. I can relate to the folks at NASCAR. When you go, you know, you go to the Kentucky Derby. Yeah. It's the who's who. That's F1.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Yeah. That's F1. You know, I'm not, I like it because I had, you know, it's, it's, it's where you go to get deals done. I like, that's what I like to say. Right. I like, I prefer NASCAR, but Indy, it was obviously every time I have an opportunity to go to F1,
Starting point is 00:45:09 it's beautiful. It's a good place to bridge gaps, to build some relationships, and meet people that you're gonna need long term on the back end. But ain't nothing like NASCAR, though. Ain't nothing like NASCAR. All right, guys, final segment of the evening.
Starting point is 00:45:26 It's time for Q and A. Blackleg71 up. Didn't players vote Halliburton the most overrated player? Yeah, they did. They did. Man won a gold medal and been on the Olympic team and going to an All-Star game. So I don't know how he overrated.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Casey Taylor says, Iso, what is your old moment? I'm in the NBA, also a huge Kobe fan. Would you share us Kobe story with us? Also, I was a super mad, crazy sad. We played hella bad, maybe Lakers and Fives next year. Man, I had a chance to play with Kobe in a hurricane relief game in Houston. 2005. And when the hurricane, what was the hurricane in Houston?
Starting point is 00:46:18 I don't know, what y'all? It was in 2005. I can't remember the name of the hurricane, but anyway, a bunch of guys went down there and we played a real game. And man, I just remember, you know, it's been for the fans and us on the van, and I was riding on the same van as Kobe, and I remember one dude on there was like, yeah, man, let's come out and have some fun for the fans, you know, put on a show, enjoy the game. He's like, oh, nah, we coming out to compete. Yeah, we gonna win. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:47 Yeah. He's just in the chair of the game, man. I'm like, the, you know, the focus that he had, you know, from playing against him at All-Star games, like, and just playing against him when he was playing for the Lakers, obviously I was playing for Phoenix or Atlanta or Brooklyn. Man, his focus was there at all times, bro. It was never a playtime with him.
Starting point is 00:47:08 It was like, man, let's do it. Like, if we gonna do it, let's do it. You're right. Yeah. Hurricane Rita. Is that what? Joe, that was the Hurricane Rita. Yeah, we went to Houston, man, and had a dope game down there. It was a lot of fun. dope game down there. It was a lot of fun. Uh, pressure said, Oh, you got to stop. Katie and book got beat by and in the woods. If Katie is not with Steph, he not winning no chip injury prone and gone.
Starting point is 00:47:35 I so well, there's some, we'll, we'll never know because he went to go to state and won two championships. He didn't co-tell. The man led. He led. You know, he was the finals MVP two years in a row. Now, he's been on some great teams where they couldn't get it done, whether it was lack of leadership or whatever the case may be, but, I mean, Durant's a hell of a talent, man. He's a hell of a... I think we look at, you know, we look at his attributes and some of the other greats
Starting point is 00:48:06 like LeBron, who naturally makes guys around him better and has done that pretty much throughout his whole career. And, you know, Duran has took, you know, took some flack for that. But for the most part, I love him because he a dude who just loves to go out there and hoop, bro. That's it. And at the same time, you know what you're gonna get from him, you know what he gonna bring to the table.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Yeah. Yep. And that's the thing, the thing, look, he ain't trying to get no pep talks, he ain't trying to be in no pre-game meet, doing all that. I just wanna play. I'm gonna come out here and y'all know
Starting point is 00:48:37 what I'm gonna get y'all. I'm gonna get y'all 20, I'm gonna get y'all 27, six and six. That's what I'm gonna get you. Y'all catch me just right. I'm gonna be on a crazy efficient. I'll give you 32. Right, yeah. But that's all he wants to do.
Starting point is 00:48:51 The guy that love the game of basketball, all the other stuff. Hey, talking to y'all at pregame meet, we gotta come out here, rah rah rah. He's, hey, he's made that abundantly clear. I ain't got no problem with it. Hey, everybody ain't meant to lead right, right And the way he lead might might be the conventional way that a Jordan or Kobe or LeBron or Yolkich or Steph, right?
Starting point is 00:49:13 It might it might be a different form of leadership. Yeah, just make you know, some people lead by example Here we go. Just for say that he just may lead by example and for the most part, that's what he's been doing leading by example. And for the most part, that's what he's been doing. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy, how you doing doc? Hey fam, what kind of pressure did y'all feel in the playoffs? Was it nerves, hype or straight tunnel vision? And what did you do physically and mentally prepare?
Starting point is 00:49:35 Well, you know the pressure is what you feel when you haven't done what you think you can do. For me, Ocho, like a series, we talked about it yesterday, game seven, NBA game seven, hockey game seven, baseball game seven, and football, every game we play in the playoffs is a game seven. There is no tomorrow. Every game is a game seven.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Tom Brady played 35, probably game sevens. Let that sink in. If you're an NBA player, if you play five in your career, you're like, damn, think about playing 35. If you're not prepared, you'll feel pressure. If you prepared, you don't feel pressure. It's a singular focus. I'm gonna do what I've done to get here. I'm not going to do anything. I might go back and say, okay, I saw something. I saw something too gay.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Let me see something here. I might go back and look at something, see how the guy played. Somebody that was really similar to me, Ocho. How they did it in the slot. Okay. But at the end of the day, it's football. John throw it. Somebody throw it, I catch it, I get a first down on touchdown.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Okay, block, stay between my guy, the guy trying to make the tackle and the ball carrier. It's really that simple. But I don't think anybody's like, oh man, this is the divisional round of the playoffs. This is the AFC Championship game. I don't think people think of it in those terms, Joe. But you know,
Starting point is 00:51:08 because the energy is different. It is it feels that baby that stadium who is different. Hey, I had the pleasure of playing and I played a few game savings. But one memorable one I can tell you all about is when I was playing in Brooklyn, and it was myself, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Dan Williams, Brook Lopez, and we played against, we was a seventh seed playing against Toronto, who was the number two seed.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And we played a game seven on their home floor, and we ended up winning that game. But I tell you, like we had packed, we packed for the next series going to their game seven. That next series was against the Miami Heat. That's all I was thinking about doing the game. I was like, man, we gotta win this game, because we gotta go to Miami, baby.
Starting point is 00:51:53 We going to Miami. Yeah. We were in this game. We're going to have to play the Heat, but we get to go to Miami for at least four, five days. We can't go back to New York on a lost game seven. So that's, uh, that's... Oh, that was the one that was that game four, game five
Starting point is 00:52:09 when LeBron dropped 49 on y'all? Yeah, that was the next series. That's it? Game four, he dropped 49 on us. But, uh, it was a great series, man. We had fun, uh, and that's why when you get to those stages in the season, in the playoffs, you gotta be healthy, man. And that's what kind of get to those stages in the season, in the playoffs, you got to be healthy, man.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And that's what kind of bogged us down with injuries. We had plenty of talent, but we had guys that were just banged up and just too injured. Man, y'all, they were old, Joe. Yeah, man, but I ain't necessarily talking about Paul and KG. I'm saying, man, we had Andrei Kerlenko, AK-47. I don't know if y'all know much about him, man. That man, 6'9", 6'10", could do everything. And we would have had him, he was on our team.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Like, if he could have gave us any little productivity, man, we would have had a better chance. You know, it's just little stuff like that. Like, he never got a chance to play in the series. Quinlan Kn nods custom. Wolves have size, but warriors have speed. If Rudy plays like he did against the Lakers game five, then the Warriors in five or seven.
Starting point is 00:53:13 If Rudy Gopera played like he played against the Lakers in game five, they are sweeping the Warriors. Yeah. You talking about the Warriors in the five or seven. If Rudy Gopera give you 27 and 24, they are sweeping the Warriors, either five or seven. If Rudy go back and give you 27 and 24, they are sweeping the Warriors. Yeah, I don't know if he gonna have that. No.
Starting point is 00:53:31 But he may win you a game or two just from his presence. And just the relentlessness of their team alone. They can hit you in so many ways. It ain't we, no, we talk a lot about Ant-Man, but they got, he got a lot of great complimentary pieces that can explode. For sure. We've seen the Jay McDaniels go for 30 in a game. We know what Randall can do.
Starting point is 00:53:54 We know what Devin Chinzo can do coming off that bench. We know what Nas Reid can do. They got the total package, man. They do. Quentin Nas has another one. He's the Ant-Man Sandman Candyman he's the Warriors in five. Y'all seen Ant-Man after the Lakers game. He said man use your air man Batman. True Infamous 73 Minnesota pineapple soda cream soda
Starting point is 00:54:30 Warriors in five everybody said the Warriors in five. I don't know. All right, Josh are 908 Bacon grease leg crease itch your fleece. It's them cooking with Williams in five. That's three warriors Gold standard if the gold Michael Jordan was on the Lakers, would have won that series. All right, now. Yeah, well, if he was, so why did he, I don't know, okay, if he was the gold, why didn't he beat the Celtics? Look, they both goaded, man, they both goads, bro. But it is the thing, look, if I hate like errors
Starting point is 00:55:01 because it's so different now. Yeah. It is so different. The game, it is so different the game If y'all can't look at the game the way the game is played today Compared to wait where the last time you saw a 73 65 full game for corners in the final score was 73 65 He's getting he's getting 73 points at the now Yeah Different ball game. The game is different.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Completely different. No post presents. Kevin said, could you see the Lakers trading for Claxton or Aitin? If not, who would be the next player? The next player is the Lakers. The Lakers. The Lakers.
Starting point is 00:55:38 The Lakers. The Lakers. The Lakers. The Lakers. The Lakers. The Lakers. The Lakers. The Lakers. The Lakers. The L different. No post presents. Kevin said, could you see the Lakers trading for Claxton or Aitin?
Starting point is 00:55:49 If not, who would be the best fit for them? I like Claxton. Luca needs a lot of presents. That's what, if you go back and look when they went to the finals, he had Gafford, he had Lively. Yeah, putting pressure on him pressure that's what he needs he needs that's what he needs that's what he wants so he can you know he gets that step through and the guys come to help
Starting point is 00:56:15 he just liven up and they slam it down eight might cost a little bit too much you think so Mark Weaves was a would have been a perfect guy. Yeah. Mark Weave would have been a perfect guy. Guy G is 16 and 10. Boy, they sure could have used that. They need a big. Say less. Uncle Nocho loved the show. Who you guys think the biggest what if story in sports history?
Starting point is 00:56:39 What ifs? For me? Uh. In sports. Uh. A Lynn Byas. What is? For me? Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Yeah. Bad boy. Could do it all, little Joe. Yeah. Could do it all. I know. Yeah. Lin-Biase and...
Starting point is 00:57:17 Who else? What else? Brandon Roy, if Brandon Roy had stayed healthy. What if Jason Williams don't have that motorcycle incident? Mmm. Yep. That boy was a big, that's my class right there. Dude's cold, man. J. Will's cold, bro.
Starting point is 00:57:39 J. Will who went to Duke? Mm-hmm. He was nice. He was that boy. So if he don't have that motorcycle accent, I think he would have been special. He would have been. Hank Gathers. Hank.
Starting point is 00:57:57 They, loyal AmeriMount. Boy, they getting it up and down. I mean, they scored 110, 115, 120 in college. That's unheard of. Yeah, they, what? He in Bo Kempel? No chill will. You're starting a street team.
Starting point is 00:58:16 What three athletes are you picking? A street ball team. What three athletes are you picking? Street ball. Who you picking Ojo? I want Jason Williams. I want Jason Williams running the point. Now we talk about street ball just based on his- You talking about white chocolate? Yeah yeah based on his style of play his creativity Let me get them ago Katie And they I need a big I need a big
Starting point is 00:59:01 I'm gonna go check Put this tree ball Yeah, it's only three people you still got to have somebody down in the pink I'm gonna go check Street ball Yeah, it's only three people you still got to have somebody down in the paint You can't have everybody on the perimeter shoot Man, I don't know about play no big in his three balls I'm just just going to that down. I Shoot up when I play 2k. I got I got a big man and I got a big man in the paint Say holding it down. Yeah, I
Starting point is 00:59:35 Missed a and one to a man man. Hey, hey, it was different back there Hey, man, you bet sauce is guilt skip to my little sir before they time bro Yeah, the air up there they should put on escalade. Yeah. Yeah And that stuff was dope back then David Cruz ain't no show really tonight cap David. Thank you, bro. Thank you for your support. Yes, sir You're marvelous singer. What's up, Uncle I so and oh Joe if you could go all the gift your one concert You get to go to one concert. You get to go to one concert. Who you attending? MJ, Biggie, Marvin, Prince, Pac and Luther.
Starting point is 01:00:16 So you get MJ and Biggie, I guess, yeah. MJ, Biggie, Marvin and Prince, Pac and Luther. That's how mighty dog. Hold on, Pocket Luther. Oh, is it very long? Oh, mighty dog. Hold on, Big Luther or Lil Luther? Luther. Yep. All of them can say. Hey.
Starting point is 01:00:33 So you got MJ and Biggie, you got Marvin and Prince, you got Pocket Luther. For me, it's either MJ, Biggie, Marvin and Prince. Yeah, that's for me. That's for me I'm gonna be entertained MJ baby for me MJ biggie, I think I'm gonna have to go with Prince man. Prince go get on the guitar. Hey, you know, okay So build a piano piano man, listen Sometimes it snows in April the The beautiful ones, darling Nikki, killer Nashville love you.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Oh, man. Oh, come on. Raspberry beret. Hey, um... Uh-oh. Uh, what's that song? Erotic City, When Doves Cry. Now, he gonna put on a performance now. He gonna do his thing.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Star Fishing Coffee. Come on, man. I know he gonna put on a performance now. He gonna do his thing star fishing coffee Come on, man. Hey, you gotta see the cherry moon and you got to stick with the combination. Do I lie? You're you heard me let's go crazy Hey, you got to stick with the combinations he gave. I'm going Marvin and Prince. Oh, I'm going Marvin and Luther. They ain't with Marvin and Luther. Didn't I just tell you I just gave you the combinations?
Starting point is 01:01:55 I don't like the combinations. I don't like his combinations. When you came to make up the combinations, he said, MJ Biggie, Marvin, Prince, Park, Luther. I'm going Marvin and Prince. Hey, who he had? Hey, who he had with Luther again? Tupac? MJ Biggie Marvin Prince Park Luther. I'm going Marvin and Prince Hey, we had hey, hey who we had with Luther again to fuck to pop man. I didn't gonna be in a goddamn How you gonna put MJ and bigger together? Biggie gonna open up the MJ
Starting point is 01:02:24 Everybody on the list go open up for. What the hell you talking about? I heard MJ put on a real show now. Oh yeah. Yeah. MJ was a real deal. Man print, hey, Under the Cherry Moon. Man, listen, you ain't said the best song. Was it?
Starting point is 01:02:43 Erotic City. Purple Rain. Purple Rain. Purple Rain, yeah. Controversy. song was a parodic city purple rain yeah controversy Wendy and Lisa computer blue mm-hmm stop playing with me old chump matter of fact hold on and you talk about you talk about southern you talk about the human jukebox man if you ain't never heard southern the human jukebox play purple rain
Starting point is 01:03:03 Never heard Southern, the human jukebox play purple rain. Dollar Nikki. I had to take, I had to take my glasses off. Joe, what I was talking about earlier about HBCU bands. Yeah. That fifth quarter and Southern, the Alcorn state was going at it back and forth and Southern played purple rain. So you got to hit one of them like this we got to leave church you got to excuse yourself Yeah, well, that's how good that's how good that shit sound boy. Oh my god
Starting point is 01:03:32 I was in Miami at the Super Bowl when prayers performed and he's playing purple rain in the rain It starts to rain. It starts to rain. Oh my god. I was there. I'm literally Looking at you. I'm like boy. That is a God Ain't no way this supposed to happen. Oh Joe you not supposed to start playing this song. Yeah The damn guitar damn their biggest he wanted the smallest man. I've never seen in my life Yeah, and he had on probably seven inch heels But boy You including on performance, did he.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Joe, one of my biggest regrets, his last time he performed, he was coming to Atlanta and your Prince didn't believe in all that ticket master stuff. He had like, okay, you could only buy like two tickets, but you had to show up with the credit card that you were using. So the ticket was like $200. I was like, you know what? Somebody scath them. Man, the ticket was $200. They end up selling people selling for $2,000, $3,000.
Starting point is 01:04:34 I said, nah, I'm gonna catch them another time. Damn. Week later, he passed. Never got a chance to see it. They say that joke put on show. Yeah, man. Listen, the closest thing we got to Prince, the closest thing we have to MJ right now as far as stage presence and actually giving you a money's worth for the performance, obviously Beyonce, Chris Brown, and Bruno Mars.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Oh, Brun- Oh, here you are. Joe, have you ever seen Bruno Mars? I ain't seen him live. I ain't seen him live. I ain't seen him live. Hey, oh my God, man. Listen, man. Yeah? I don't care if the ticket is $1,000.
Starting point is 01:05:10 What? You gonna get $1,000 worth of entertainment. What? Perform. What, he got the residency out there in Vegas? I think he had it in that damn gym. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if he's still there, but I had it.
Starting point is 01:05:24 He might not be. Where is Ash, but look it up. Oh, I saw him twice, I saw him like, he was at the, he performed at the Super Bowl in New York. Yeah. And I had an appearance and I got to see go into the rehearsals. But I also went to a Pepsi co-event in, in, in, in, whether whether Houston and he performed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Hey, well Bruno the real deal, boy. Let me know about it. In fact, let me add usher to that as well. Oh yeah. Let me add, let me add usher to that as well. Yeah. That guy. But oh yeah, I'll definitely go see Bruno again.
Starting point is 01:05:58 He, he unbelievable. Cause like I said, he can sing, he can dance, he can play instruments. And that's what said, that's what set Prince apart. Cause Prince can play all them instruments. Play multiple instruments. Yeah. And think about how many people he done wrote for. Legend.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Yeah, man. Time he wrote for Lin- uh, Apollonia. What's the mother, what's uh. What's the other girls he had? Wrote for Wendy, Lisa, Andre, Simone. Sinead O'Connor, he wrote, No One Compared to You. He wrote that for her. Because we had, you remember when they was having verses and they had to say MJ or Prince. Yeah. MJ or Prince.
Starting point is 01:06:51 And another verse is touching it. Ain't nothing touching it. Not even close. Nothing. Not even close. Nothing could touch that. And I don't care who, I mean, you take 20 songs now. You take 20.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yeah. It would have been a vibe, man. You go neck and neck. It would have been a vibe. It would have been a vibe, for real. I mean, look, there was some good ones. Man, I really, you know who I really loved? Oh, Earth, Wind and Fire and the Isaac Brothers.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Oh, man. Boy, that thing was nice. Yeah. Boy, that thing was nice. Cause I, hey, anytime, Earth, Wind and Fire Isley brothers. Oh, boy that thing was nice. Yeah. Boy that thing was nice. Cause I, hey, anytime Earth went in fire somewhere and I'm close, I'm going. I've seen it about five times. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Oh, they put it down. Hall and Oaks, I'm going. NDR Re, I'm going. Yeah. Oh yeah. I'm about to, I like to sit down. Chastain Joe, you're born with a regular chastain. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Oh yeah, you bring the food. That's my neck of the woods over here, huh? Yeah, Seal? Yeah. I'll tell you, if Seal, you go see him, Mocho. He's a good one. He's a good one. He's a good one.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Oh, he turned it out. Turned it out. Remi Shan, oh, I say I'm not old. I say I'm not old, you know, they sit down, and they sit up, I'm not, you know. I ain't, you know, beat the... Head banging like the music. Nah, I can't do all that. Just slow it down, just slow it down and sing for your boy.
Starting point is 01:08:12 That's what I want. They ain't giving you none of that nine days, you're over with. Nah, Michelle and Diego Chela, I've seen about seven, eight times. Yeah. I gotta see, but that's my girl. Y'all know that's my girl now.
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Starting point is 01:09:30 That was 30 years ago. 30 years ago. Nah, that wasn't 30 years ago. That documentary. And the only time I went to Bittensville, I went down to Walmart. Yeah. Okay, okay.
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Starting point is 01:11:05 history. He was on fire today and they take down, they move on to face the Minnesota Timberwolves. Game one will be Tuesday. And the Indiana Pacers opened up the second round of Eastern semifinals with a 1-21, 1-12 victory over the Cleveland Cavaliers. The Cavaliers are the number one seed. They won 64 games. The Pacers had six guys in double figures,
Starting point is 01:11:28 led by Nim Hard, who had 23, but Tyrese Halliburton was big down the stretch, 22 points, 13 assists, and they rolled 121 to 112 to take a 1-0 lead on the road. That concludes Nightcap. I'm up, he's Ojo, he's Iso-jo. See you tomorrow, Tuesday, my bad, damn! I'm up. He's Ojo. He's Iso-Jo. See you tomorrow. Tuesday, my bad.
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