Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Russell Westbrook gets wrist surgery + Caleb Williams making improvements

Episode Date: May 28, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson & Joe Johnson react to Ja'Marr Chase stating his uncertainty in joining the Olympic Flag Football team, Chicago Bears QB Caleb Williams looking to address is mistakes from his rookie season, and former NBA player Jeremy Pargo joins to talk his new movie 'The Final Play.'01:47 - Jeremy Pargo20:00 - Nuggets announce Westbrook had surgery to repair tears in hand26:51 - Carmelo slated for 2025 HOF29:22 - AJ Brown crying on rollercoaster36:10 - Ja’Marr Chase not 100% in on playing flag football40:10 - Bears looking for Caleb Williams to improve nuances42:19 - Falcons Post and Delete47:35 - Building the Worst NFL Franchises51:00 - 8 Inmates Captured, 2 Remain52:43 - Q & Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're listening to an iHeart podcast. All right. We got to bring Joe. We're going to bring one of your teammates. Uh, he played 15 seasons, both in the NBA and international games. He's also a teammate of Joe's in the big three of the Detroit amps. Here he is. Jeremy Pargo.

Jeremy, how you doing, bro? What's up, Monk? I'm good, man. Thanks for joining us tonight. What up Chad? What's going on fellas? Hey, man. Thanks for joining us tonight. Yo, yo, yo, yo, what up? Chad, what's going on, fellas? Hey, Mr. Pago? Yeah.

Hey, play me 101. Hey, I kid you not. I told my people I got a whiteboard right here where I write scripts. And I said I should write on this. Chad, I will give you 40. I should. That ain't work.

Hold on, hold on. You'll give me 40 in what? You talking about playing NBA 2K? No, I don't even play that game. We talk about real life Yeah, yeah, yeah real life. I've been looking for you, too I've been looking for you too because you'd like to talk I like it. Let's say what? I ain't this way hard to find that I can come with you. Hey, listen, Chad We had an encounter in Miami at the stoplight. We just had to stop like you tried to borrow my car

I told you you have whenever you wanted actually Never you wanted actually Because I know you're bringing it back. Oh absolutely. Absolutely. It's good to see you, boy. Let's talk about a movie, you movie, a movie that you star in. You co-wrote this film. The final play, the feature is about to debut. The final play is available today on all major digital and on-demand platforms. We have a snippet of the film. Let's take a look at it right now. Let's do it.

Men love to be in control. See that emoji got him thinking. Access granted. I know men like brailling. Well, it chopped up, ain't it? Yeah, yeah. When are you free? Uh-uh, don't be so available.

Don't be so unavailable. Man, tell us that's next month. Next month? So, when did you start thinking like, you know what, I want to get into the film industry. I want to write scripts. I want to act. I want to direct. I want to be a part of this.

What made you decide to say, you know what, this is part two, this is act two of my professional career? My good friend, he plays Cory in the film, by the way, his name is Rod. He had me do something back in like 2016, something smaller than moving. I'm like, man, I ain't no actor at all. He's like, no, just come do it.

So based on that, I ended up getting auditioned for a Chicago PD, but I was overseas playing ball, couldn't do the audition. And to be honest, we athletes, we ain't got the confidence to walk in nobody's audition room and think we about to read and get a role. So I was like, you know what, I'm going to write something myself. And I'm just going to surround this thing with a bunch of people that want to be involved in the film world that are also athletes or people trying to do things.

So I wrote it that way, man. During the pandemic, I just sat down with note cards and just was writing, writing, writing. And my sister, Valentina Barton, who was big on everything, she's a producer on the film, and this is what we got, man. Fortunately, I was able to get Joe to show up. Let's go. Let's go. Hey, man, I have one question also.

When it comes to writing, I'm a movie head, I'm a buff, I'm an enthusiast when it comes to the art of acting in general, I can't produce, I can't write, I can't do none of that. I'm just, I love I'm a buff, I'm an enthusiast when it comes to the art of acting in general. I can't produce, I can't write, I can't do none of that. I love the finished product of it. I'm excited to check yours out. But when it comes to writing, do you write from start to finish or do you do it in parts separately?

Oh, so I had a co-writer on this because like you said, I didn't like to write in school. I was a math guy. So when I was writing, I probably got maybe 30 pages out and this was kind of easier to write because I was telling a story that I've pretty much seen. I lived. Some of these come from a real place and I think this is relatable to all of us Athenians. So when I was able to get about 30 pages, I hired a co-writer by the name of Barchet and he came in and he helped me build this thing to where it is today and next thing you know we're 90 pages. Wow. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, Uncle Ochoa. Hey look, one thing about me, I ain't gonna tell no lie to you because it sounds fly to you, okay? I gotta write that down. Listen, listen, it's a roko, a romantic comedy. Okay.

You're gonna laugh from start to finish and all of that's got some sentimental moments in there you know to where you may shed a tear but it kind of puts you in the likes of like a best man. Okay. You know something like that so it's it's it's it's a hell of a movie man I wouldn't I wouldn't did the one too if I ain't think it was worth it. You know, I mean, right? Yeah. Yeah Thinking I think you have an all-female production team. How important was that for you to have an all-female production team? So coming into this thing, like I said, Valentina has been with me from jump. So my good friend, Ernestine Morrison, she lives in Atlanta and we shot this in Atlanta.

She's connected. So we went through her for other actors and actresses. We went to locations and then to Leah Breon, who's another producer as well as director who led everything. She was amazing in terms of being a director because this is the first thing I've ever done. So taking her guidance was like having a coach

and just try to deliver on what she did. And then it was crazy, man, because these women knew what they wanted, they knew how to get it, and they were really bulldogs in making sure we got what we needed. So was it a situation? I mean, you say it comes from a very personal point of view.

Did you always, did you know what you wanted, the direction kind of that you wanted to go and you sit down and you sat down and talk to them and they said this is kind of this is kind of the direction that I see it in my head because what you see in your head and being able to put it down on paper might be entirely different. But having these women obviously enjoy, it's a romantic comedy and having women, a point of view on one side of it to merge with your, what you, what your vision is and get that to come together. So a lot of it was just, like you said, when we experienced, um, some wants in there, what I desire, I just, I was watching you guys talk about marriage

and all of those things. So those are the things that I desire. So, um, it was easy to find a way to work that into film and having leaders, uh, in my life that, that has, has gone down that path in terms of having long-term relationship with women. Like my brother, like Joe, um, has always been great to see and, um, continue to build in that, in that aspect in a movie came together. And, uh, I can't wait till you guys see it.

Okay. Oh Joe, his brother, uh, Janaro Pargo. He's the assistant coach for the Indiana Pacers. Right. Okay. Yeah. Me and his brother, me and his older brother played college ball together at the University of Arkansas. Okay. So that's how y'all know each other. Yeah. Yeah. We're 20 years strong. Been a while. Been a long old ride. Yeah, yeah, 20 years wrong. Yeah, then why feel all right? Wow, so when a when a when a family when a Guy in his gal or you know whomever goes and sit down and they watch this movie, you know Hey, they chillin need at the crib because it's all digital and streaming platforms

What I mean, uh, what just uh you said, I think you said best man. I was thinking like, hell, you know, par goes, maybe it's love and basketball. You know what I'm saying? I was thinking something like, so what can the fans expect? It's a piece of all of it, man. It's a hard story that comes from a real place, it's relatable. I wrote it with the hopes of starting conversations

between men and women in terms of their relationships and building better relationships going forward. But every classic romantic comedy for our community that you can think of is a piece of it in there. Love, Jones. The Wood is my favorite movie. Okay. Oh, the Wood is classic? That is my favorite movie.

So when I was writing, I made that their connecting point. They both love The Wood and that's how they connected and built their relationship going forward. So man, anything you can think of that was a black romantic they're connecting point. They both love the wood and that's how they connected and built their relationship going forward. So man, anything you can think of that was a black romantic comedy growing up, it was amazing. Like no joke, yeah.

All right. Go ahead, Ocho. Please tell me I can watch this tonight when the show is over or do we have to wait a little bit? No, you ain't gotta wait at all. You can put it on right now and have it running on your TV. So you just- Hold on, hold on. You can't see it cause his TV not centered. So you ain't gonna be able to all. You can put it on right now and have it running on your TV. So you You can't see it cuz it's his TV not centered

So you ain't gonna be able to see it cuz his hair blocking it now I don't know how he got all the other stuff on the wall center and then he got it He got it up truce on his damn wall. Well, I mean who and he got He got a he got a 50-foot wall with a 12 inch TV. I got a TV in my bank seat of my car bigger than that Look like you got the big back on the TV man with a 12 inch TV. I got a TV in my back seat of my car bigger than that. Hold on. That ain't about it. I'll pay it. Look like you got the big back on the TV, man. You got the big back on the TV.

Well, you have to understand, this place here, it's about me being a minimalist. It's about everything is all white. Everything is white, so I don't need nothing. What they gotta do with that small ass TV? Why would I? Because I want everything nothing. What's that got to do with that small ass TV? Why would I? Because I want everything small. That's the whole point.

Not in that big ass room. You can still center it. Yes. It is not centered. No, no. Come on. Oh no, because I can't sit. The piano's over there.

So? What you mean? Hold on. Are you watching TV in that room? If you got a room with a piano, you don't need to be watching TV in the room. You're not going to tell me how to do my decor. This is exactly how I designed it to be. This is the man by the iPad on his wall. Hey, hey, hey, Jade. The funny thing, he telling me about center of the TV my last name

wouldn't even spell correctly. What are you talking about? I mean I I changed my last name to a number. You really think I care about my TV being centered? Yeah, yeah. Clearly, clearly not. Clearly, you got an iPad mounted. I mean, I guess you can just go over there and just plug it in. But actually, actually, that's a 60-inch. That is just that far away.

That is not no 60-inch TV. How you gonna tell me? I bought it. I paid for it. You mean six? Drop to zero. Six. Hey, um, I don't think you understand how far away that is. How you gonna tell me? I bought it! I paid for it! You mean six, drop to zero. Six. Hey, um, I don't think you understand how far away that is. You know this-

I don't give a damn. I don't give a damn if I'm looking at it from the moon. Hold on. Let me tell you something. You do understand, right? This is 15,000 square feet. So it would look- That wall ain't 15,000 square feet. I don't know. No, I'm trying to explain to you, because you don't understand how big the establishment I'm in is. I understand that.

But that ain't got nothing to do with that small ass TV on that big ass wall that's not centered. Hey, Chad, I think I can break down what Uncle Sam. He's saying when you put the movie on the TV, make sure you push the cows a lot closer. No, no, no. I don't sit on that. Boy, that's, no, no, I don't sit on that. What else? That's white alpaca.

I don't sit on that. That's alpaca. I don't. I'm the kitchen. Well, why do you put a TV? Why do you put a TV in the room that you don't see that? Yeah, it just for a step from people when people wait. No, no, people come here with my baby walk in.

Human kids walk in. They don't go straight to your room. Don't miss it. Don't even come down here. This is just the look. Well, they can't watch TV, can't but one person at a time watch TV on that. Why you say that?

You losing, Chad. That small ass TV, you losing. Hey, it only cost me 5900. There you go. Man, that's cold, that's cold. Munk, you ain't ever getting that money. You ain't never getting that money. Hey, I'm tracking it.

Hey, Joe, I'm going to have that white alpaca with some mud on these teams. No, I'm through. Hey, you know, hey, this is custom-made, all white alpaca. I'm not. Oh, Joe. That TV is not centered, and that TV is not 60 inches.

Now, I don't give a damn what they got. It could be chinchilla. Listen, I don't want it centered because the piano is on the other side. Okay, I tell you what, if it's 60 inches, go back, I tell you what, go back there and do this with your hand and I bet you cover the whole screen. What, my TV? Yeah. That's a 60 inch. I got that from Walmart. Okay, go, I don't give a damn where you got it from. Go back there and do this with your head. I guarantee you, you'll block the screen. Hey Joe, he feeling the pressure in his eyes and got tightened up. Damn. Oh yeah. That's my 60.

Yeah, that's good. Chad, they- What? God, Wayne watching it from outside? He got a drive in. What the hell? Won't you just open the door and let the neighbors watch? You saw how big that was? You see what I'm talking about?

I see how far it is. Yeah, I just told you how big the house is. You're not listening. So why don't you just open the door and just charge $5 and let your neighbors watch TV? Nah, nah, nah, nah. My neighbor, I don't even have neighbors, huh? The next house is like two miles down.

What? I'm in a castle. What they gotta do with you having that TV centered? I don't want it centered because the, I wanted exactly how it is, because the piano's on that side. It's a stairwell. You see the stair, you can't, you see the stairwell? I can't, I can't center it. It won't be quiet. Give me staircase, but yes.

Hey, let me, let me do this. Let me do it. Let me come do your- You did an F'd up job of it. That's the problem. I let you do it. I tell you what, send me my 5900. Since you do it, since you want to do so much, do that. Oh, no, no.

You started it, not me. You talking about my TV being small. No, you started it. Oh, it be 5900. That's what you started. You bet me. I don't care what I won. I don't care where we at. I think we at like a900. That's what you started. You bet me. I don't know what I want

Okay, well we I think we're like a thousand we bet on What we bet a hundred dollars don't do that. Don't do that. We bet the dollar Old Joe like crime he'll pay Hey, listen, I always pay as long as I owe you you'll never be broke. Well I'm ayy. I just wanted to ask if you feel good. I mean my money drawing interest in your pocket. That don't seem fair to me. Let me finish my pool. As soon as I finish the pool I'm going to send you money. Huh? I'm about to get me a dump truck. I'm about to get me a dump truck load of dirt.

I'm about to cover that pool up. I'm about to fill that pool in. Oh boy, hey. Listen. Hey, listen dude. Jeremy, you and Joe are big three teammates on Detroit Amps. You guys going to win it all this year? Man, listen, hold on.

Hold on, Jeremy. Hold on. Let me, let me, hey look. I won a championship with his brother now in the big three. We met, we had a big three. based on Detroit amps. You guys gonna win it all this year? Man, listen, hold on, hold on, Jeremy, hold on. Hey, look, I won a championship with his brother now in the big three. Now, me and Jeremy, we don't want us to A-B-L a championship out here in Atlanta,

but we gotta get us a big three one, so he already know how I'm coming. And you been MVP, you was MVP your first year, right, Joe? Yeah, man, I broke all kind of records, but we ain't, you know what I mean? We ain't gotta talk about that. Oh, Joe, come on, Joe. I was just saying, I was just saying, you know, I jumped in. Yeah, man, I broke all kind of records. But we ain't, you know what I mean? We ain't got to talk about it. Oh, Joe, come on, Joe. I'm just saying, I'm just saying.

You know, I jumped in this thing. Listen, 2019 was probably my toughest year in life. I lost my mother 2019 due to cancer. And if it wasn't for his brother, Janaro, I probably wouldn't have played in the Big Three. Wow. I just really wanted to. Sorry to hear that. Mentally. I just I just really already that

Mentally, I just want man. He talked me in the plan He was like man just come out here and have some fun on the weekend and you know doing the week You know, we'll work out and it just kind of you know work for me. Yeah, just kind of click So ever since now just been gone Yeah, Wow, but yeah, it's time. It's time We it's time for us to get back to the mountaintop, baby Who is the competition who is the competition man? We got some good teams on Cuz I think Michael Beasley and the land Stevenson on the team, right? Yeah, and in the league is great

They did 305 what it through what are they German Miami 305 Miami. Then you got the L.A. Ryers. That's the White House. Crawford, Jeff Teague, who? Jebaw Crawford, Jordan, Jordan, Crawford. OK, bro, Jeff Teague and Dwight Howard. They are on one team. Like it's it's the good especially Johnson.

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. It's some good especially Johnson. Yeah. Yeah Wow So you think this you think this is gonna be the toughest you to win a championship because of the take because of the pair that's in the league Probably so but you know, we got a we we got a pretty good roster ourselves. You know, I mean who y'all big man Darnell Jackson played a play that Kansas played in the league about seven years. Okay. A bruiser.

Yeah, okay. Bruiser. Well, y'all gonna need somebody. Y'all just need to foul DeWyatt, make him go to the free throw line and make it, because he gonna be looking to dunk everything. DeWyatt was just practicing four pointers. We okay with that. Yeah.

Oh, Lord, have mercy. Hey, y'all don't want no extra legs, no first legs? Yeah, we need somebody to hand out water. We cool. I'm telling you. Come out. I just saw you arguing with Joe about this about a couple of weeks ago

and they pulled up the footage of you in the charity game. I don't know. Oh, when I gave Tracy McGrady 12, I gave him 12 and he got upset and he got frustrated. Yeah, that game, that 12, got dropped 12 on him. I only saw the clip when you lost the ball out of bounds. I only saw that clip. Oh yeah, that was after I had already scored

and he was frustrated. Man, boy, good and terrible. All right. Don't worry, I'm gonna find him in the gym. I'm gonna find him in the gym. Hey, but look, we coming to a city near you, Old Joe. Okay. I'm gonna be cool outside.

We talking about LA, we coming to Miami. So, man, y'all gotta, I'll catch y'all. I'll gonna be cool. He's talking about LA we come to Miami. So yeah I'll catch y'all. I'll catch y'all at the stop. Hey look one thing I promise you we gonna put on the show. That's one thing I'm gonna Gonna be wasting your money you hear me Alright, we will stop by and check you out. Oh Jeremy stop the place for stopping by tonight, man Best of luck luck on the film. Wait, hold on, hold on. Jeremy, before you go, tell me how to, baby, I know you're watching. Tell me how to watch that tonight.

It's Amazon or Apple TV, either one. It's available. Go and watch that thing, man. And let me know what you think about it after you do. OK, OK. I'm going to watch it tonight. Mama, I know you're watching. Put that on for me, please, real quick.

Co-wrote, the film is called The Final Play. Jeremy stars in it. He co-wrote the film. Let's go out and support it. He said it's on Amazon Prime and Apple TV. So let's go out and support our brother. Make sure he gets some love and support. So Jeremy again, thank you for stopping by. Congratulations on the film and good luck at the big three. Appreciate your time, fellas. Peace. No problem. Yep. Ocho, appreciate that, man.

That was, no, no problem, bro. Cool, man. The Nuggets announced that Russell Westbrook had surgery to repair multiple ligament tears. Nothing he has expect, nothing he is expected to resume full off season activity training this summer. Russ gave his own update saying this morning I'm undergoing surgery on my

right hand to fix two breaks that happened during the season. I'm grateful for everyone's support all year and I can't wait to be back out there a hundred percent soon. The comeback is already in motion. Hashtag why not. Now knowing that he had damaged ligaments in his hand, does that change? That was, you know, look, we know the roller coaster Russ is gonna be on. He gonna make some great plays,

he gonna give you hustle, he gonna rebound, he gonna turn the ball over, he gonna miss some shots. But does that change anything about how we see Russ right now? Now knowing that he had this damage in his, two breaks in his right hand, his shooting hand? Uh, maybe to some degree. To some degree. You know, it could have bothered his shot. Yeah. Okay, Ocho, I was playing, I knocked the ligament loose in my right wrist. This was like

latter in my career. But it was in my right hand. And as a shooter, now I think I'm more of a shooter than Russ, you know, it bothers you. And it has second guessing. You know what I mean? It has you second guessing. So I can kind of see it, but I'm just happy it ain't a lower extremity. Right. Due to his age, it ain't a lower extremity. And I think he can ultimately, you know, get back to playing the game that he loved at a high level. Yeah, because you gotta realize, he shoots the ball right-handed, but Russ is left-handed, Ocho.

What? Yeah, he writes with his left hand. Oh, does he? He does everything with his left hand except shoot a basketball. Same thing with LeBron. Yeah, I'm gonna say, I know LeBron like that. LeBron does everything with his left hand except shoot a basketball. Same thing with LeBron. Yeah, I was gonna say, I know LeBron like that. LeBron does everything with his left hand

except shoot a basketball. I think that's crazy. Great, you start like that very early, right? That nothing you, okay, okay. Well, LeBron said, you know, being lefty, not a whole lot of people was lefty. Michael Jordan shot right-handed, so he wanted to be like Mike.

But the only thing that LeBron does with his right hand is shoot a basketball. Everything else is done with his left hand. That's how I know that wasn't the ball that he gave you because that's a right-handed person that wrote that on that ball. LeBron is left-handed. No, no, no.

LeBron gave me that ball. It's just the view, which you sitting at home looking at it from the camera angle, looking at me, is just like you thought that TV was small. You thought it was an iPad. See, that's the difference. So when I turn the ball to you, it looks like it's written with someone with a right hand,

but it's really a left hand. Less left-handed pimpingship, I'm telling you. Hey, you gotta grab that. You notice I haven't had the ball with me in the last few episodes, right? We talked about basketball. Yeah, where is that? Now I got it in glass in the casing.

Oh Joe, you gotta chill. You gotta stop it, bro. What? You gotta stop it. Okay I got that ball in the glass cage though That Joe says oh Joe you gotta stop it I can't keep sitting over here hanging out with y'all and this man come on here line like this. I Know more. I'm sorry. I can't take it no more. Oh, Joe, you gotta chill, man. Come on now. We get company over here, you go to lying and all that.

Come on now. Come on, man. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on now. You got to cut it out. You got to stop it.

Hey, look, you talking about jumping the broom and all this and all that. Come on. Hold that. I ain't playing by that, boy. Hey, Joe, let me sit there. Boy, you. Hold that. I ain't playing by that, boy. Hey. Let me tell you, boy, you got me crying, Joe.

You got me crying, boy. You gotta stop. Hey. I'm gonna jump that broom, boy. You hear me? If I don't jump the broom, the broom gonna jump me, one to the other. Boy, you laughing. Boy, I ain't playing by that, boy.

I'm seeing, I'm seeing, it ain't coincidence. I'm seeing the, the, what was the word? How do I see it? What you see, Ojo? All those that jumped the broom, that finally, that found that, that found that foundation. That found that person, that found that foundation. Yes, that's the ability in how everything else seems to flow and go correctly in life after that. Oh, Joe, boy, I need some of that, Joe. You say you want to be a part of some of that cool stuff. Hey, Joe, I need some of that, Joe.

Hey, I tell you, boy, you got me over here crying. You're saying? Yeah, I go, hey, listen, man, I done had my run, but I done hung my jersey in the rafters. I done weighed a white flag, yo. Oh, man. I need some of that, bro. And it's all right, because see, the one thing, you know there ain't nothing out here, man.

Go and jump that broom, man. You ain't got to tell me twice. Yeah, maybe Arthur follows suit. You know, we'll see what's next. Hey, he ain't gonna have no choice but to follow suit if he want that money. Yeah, I mean... Made for This Mountain is a podcast

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And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Carmelo Anthony is slated to be inducted into the basketball hall of fame as a member of the 2025 class later this year. When Mello takes his place in the hall of fame, he wants Michael Jordan, Allen Iverson, and Dwayne Wade to introduce him into the hall. My life is impacted by more than one person.

I need three. What you think, Joe? Hey, look, I think, hey man, this will be probably one of the most gratifying moments for him to have those dudes induct him because I think they all in the hall right? Absolutely. Yeah. I mean hey why not? Those are some of his closest buddies, dudes he's you know kind of rolled the wave with and you know he should be able to kind of hand pick you

know who he wants. I know he want MJ to come in there and induct him too so. Yeah cuz you know he was a brand Jordan and he's been with brand Jordan basically his whole career. Like the face, the face of brand Jordan. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. He's probably one of the first guys to have his own signature shoe. Yep. I know guys like Mike Bibby, Ray Allen was there when the brand first started, but guys who came in and really had their own signature shoe.

I think Mello was the first one. Right. Yeah. I think Dwight Howard said he want three guys to walk him out too. I know he said Shaq, I forget the other two, but I think Dwight Howard mentioned that. As you look for that Ash, who Dwight Howard said he wanted to walk him out. Hey look, I'm happy for Dwight and Shaq too, you know, for selling the differences, man, and being grown men, man, we gotta put away the childish ways and you know, throw up.

I mean, obviously, you know Dwight looked up to him, he had to, and we all looked up to Shaq, you know what I mean? So I'm happy for those guys, man, getting inducted. This, you know, that's going to be a memorable moment. Yeah. He said he wanted, uh, Dwight Howard said he wanted Shaq, Kareem, and KG. Yeah. That'd be a good one. Yeah.

You know what? Yeah. He didn't kind of have few of what, you know, he had him and KG had, they looked back and forth when we played, uh, you know, him and Shaq kind of, so, you know, So, you know, this is pretty cool to kind of have things come full circle. Yep. Those who you competed with, competed against. And, you know, for them to induct them into the Hall of Fame, I think that would be cool.

Yeah, that'd be awesome. Yeah. AJ Brown was crying going on a roller coaster for the first time in his life. I would run a slant across the middle against Ray Lewis and Cam Chancellor before I ride another roller coaster. You're roller coaster guy Joe? Hey, I'll be telling my lady when we be taking the kids to Disney World. Hey look, them rides ain't made for nobody.

Six, eight, six. Like I don't feel like I'd be strapped in tighter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And look, you go to see all these different stories about these- People falling out? Hey, look, I'd be sitting right down there at the finish line when they done.

I'd be here holding everybody bags. Yeah. Yeah. For your, I'll get off. I'm gonna be sitting right there at the bottom. Hey, hey, I don't think AJ Brown really understands. He said Two of the hardest hitters that played he said Ray Lewis and Cam Chancer I guarantee you if you played in that era with that with the

Legion of boom and cam chance of coming down here long you or Ray court you on one of them slants I think you won't choose that roller coaster instead No, just like he wouldn't run that he didn't want to ride that roller coaster again, he ain't gonna run and run that slam again. Uh-uh. And you know now, Ocho, guys running one-step slam routes. Yeah.

Oh no. Mind you, you getting the head start, you getting the head start, gotta get in that full three-step slam. Yeah, and it's, hey, and now, hey, and see back then, Ocho, it wasn't no defensive receiver. Hey, you going ahead. It wasn't no blow wasn't no defensive receiver. Hey, you go ahead.

It wasn't no blow to the head. Exactly. Hey, I'm scared to go across that middle quite a bit, huh? Yeah, hell yeah. I live across that. Because here's the thing, Ocho, you had to catch it. Because if you didn't catch it, they going to knock your life out.

If you did catch it, if you didn't catch it, they're going to say you scared. That's why you didn't catch it. They're going to knock your life out either way. So you might as well go ahead and catch it. They gonna be standing over you talking crazy. Oh, Joe, do you get the alligator arms when you come across that middle? Oh, no, Joe. I'm jumping. I'm jumping.

I'm not jumping. I'm reaching for everything. Joe, that's why I got knocked out, we folk. Reaching for everything. I don't care. Ray got it. Ray got it. Not this hell with all. Yeah, Ray got me good. Ball, hey, Joe, I could, the Shaq wouldn't have been able to catch that ball, but here goes my ignorant ass. I'm still

reaching for it anyway. Boy, Ray caught me up under the chin and I got upset at Ray. How you hit me like that? Nigga, we just prayed together before the game. Yeah, I prayed I didn't kill you. You were praying one prayer, I was praying another prayer. Lord, please don't let me kill this. You were praying one prayer, I was praying another prayer.

Lord, please don't let me kill this man out here, because if he catches land... So he caught me off guard. I would have put his hands on Ray Joe. Hey, man, listen. Hey, boy. Oh, man. I'm saying, you knew he was going to hit you? Oh, I knew it was coming. I knew it was coming because in his drop and I knew I had to slam and based on the coverage Based on the coverage. I can't remember now. Well now wasn't Fabian Washington. Was it Fabian Washington? He saw for the up and once he saw him up and I knew the safety go back I knew Ray had dropped a little bit. So I knew he was gonna be right there. Yeah. Yeah

Ray had the hook. Yep, bingo exactly. So I just Slowed down right in the hole. I'm not gonna run through there. I reached for it for no reason, knowing I couldn't get to it. Here you go. We got a clip, we got a snippet of AJ on the rollercoaster. Watch this, Ocho and Joe. See me again. I'm scared.

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outside everything outside of that I'm getting on everything. I used to ride the Batman the Superman the 10-story freefall. I used to ride on Universal Studios Not very far I'm riding everything I'm putting I'm pushing kids out the way Yeah And the finish line and you know now they keep creed creating bigger ones. You know, I think they got a Millennium Force. They got one in Ohio that's 300 feet high. Get up to speeds of like 70, 80, 90 miles an hour. I'm cool. I'm cool.

I'm a watch. I ain't gonna lie, I'm a watch. I'm a beater, I'm a watch. Have you, hey Joe, you ever rode roller coasters before at all? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just uncomfortable, huh? Yeah, man, I just feel so vulnerable.

I can't control nothing. I ain't, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you can't. Nah. I understand. You're absolutely right, Joe. You can't control nothing. Understandable.

But boy, they got that Six Flags, I think, what was it, the Superman? Yeah. The Mummy, they got this thing called the Mummy at the University. Yeah. 3-0, yeah, that's a good one, yeah. I got on that Ocho a couple years ago.

That was it? Look, I told my kids, boy, y'all gonna be at the finish line on the next one, I'm gonna be waiting for y'all. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Yeah, I had been, like I said, okay, cause the last time I was there, you like, it's like hard for me to like click my,

to hear that thing click. Like, you know, you got to hear that thing click, Ocho. And you know, that thing ain't made for big people. That's what I be trying to tell them, man. Why they think I be playing? They think I be trying to come up with all kinds of excuses. Oh, you just scared, gave you a man, please. I Understand

Yeah, I can't do it Joe You know, I feel like the old I didn't get the scary I didn't get mmm What yeah, but uh, like I said, I'm That's uh, that's me, I'm frozen for some reason. Y'all can hear me, can you hear me, Ocho? Yeah, we can hear you. Hey, that's that dial-up wifi you're using in there.

Nah, we ain't got a dunk on Ong tonight, so I ain't dial up that. Oh, Ong, you done went out. Oh, there you go. I'm back now. I'm back. I'm back. Yeah.

Back. Jamar Chase, not really 100% on playing flag football in the 2028 Olympics. I don't know. I want to hear more information about it. I want to know the timing for us off season, end of season. I want to know if we're getting paid. I want to know where we're traveling every week, every other day, every day, like all parts of it because we have an off season, we have a life. How long would it be? I don't know. There's a lot of questions to it. I think it's pretty cool, but I'm not really 100% on it yet.

Yeah, I mean, I like it. I like it. And I like also out there, when a reporter's asking how he felt about those that love and play the game of flag football professionally and making sure they're incorporated in some way. He said, obviously he says he needs to do his homework on it, but listen, Doucet, who obviously the quarterback who's very, very good and he plays flag at the highest level, you know, he spoke out and said how he felt it wasn't fair that the game they love is being taken over by NFL players. Yeah, for sure. Anyone is going to represent our country in a flag football format, it should be them.

So do said I'm sure you're gonna see this and I hope you all get get the due justice that you guys deserve for the game that you guys love to play. And it's not taken over by those that play NFL football. They can they can come help contribute and get a better understanding of the game. But actually them just going from NFL football with a certain set of rules and thinking they're going to learn

and dominate the game of flag football and just asinine to think. Yeah, flag tough, man. Hey, look, I know we are athletes and y'all played the game of football I know I played no other sport outside of basketball, but just as what about a year ago We got a flag football team out here Hammond Park. Oh Yeah, and guess what? It's co-ed

Man, we get nice thing rolled out here. You're me man we getting our steam rolled out here you hear me I'm talking about listen I'm talking about the girls can throw catch I'm talking about they got all type of little nuances in the game that if you ain't never played it we lost out there you lost you hear me yeah yeah they game different now I thought for some NFL guys I'm like oh man it probably be all right, but y'all say No, wait. Yeah, it's hard. It's tough. Ain't no way. Hey Joe is too many is too is too many tricks There's too many nuances. You're right Lied they're going on the knee and oh they they can manipulate the game in ways that NFL players aren't used to I don't care

How fast and quick you are having those attributes, you know to apply to your game now That's all nice and dandy in the NFA but flag man Like he said, okay How much time are they gonna have to devote because it's not like it's like oh, you know, like basketball but basketball, you know when the When the pros came, you know came back in 92 when they went to Barcelona they had practice yeah so what are you gonna do you go have these guys out there hey okay you want to play okay okay Lamar you could be the

quarterback hey Jetta Tyree you want to play now they're gonna have to they're gonna have to go practice and like he said that's their offseason yeah they ain't trying to get and And just like the guys in basketball, they gotta give up a large part of their off season, Joe. Yeah. Because once it comes over with, and then you got, you know, like in basketball, they got the Worlds and they got all the USAs

and they got all this other stuff. But it's gonna be different. It ain't just, okay, you, hey, y'all just show up. Right. You don't have to put, so I understand what Chase is talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Chemistry and continuity, man, you can't cheat that. Nope. Oh.

You can't cheat. You think you can have the most talented guys and just go out there and beat up on folks, but man, listen, if y'all ain't on the same page, you should rap. Mm-hmm. Especially when you don't know the rules and you haven't been doing it for a very long time.

Yeah. I agree. The Bears are reportedly looking for Caleb Williams to improve his body language and other finer nuances per Albert Breyer. While the coaches understood the beating that he took, they showed Fem to emphasize how he'd been slow to pull himself off the ground. Williams reportedly is eagerly to make these changes. I agree. Body language is everything on Joe. You know, you know how it is. Yeah. Yeah.

I, yeah. It's listen, we talk about Chicago. We talk about the Chicago bears. We talk about the same team that had Jake Cutler who showed no emotion the whole time. I, I, I totally understand. I totally understand them, but keep, keep your quarterback upright. Keep your quarterback upright the best way you can.

He wouldn't have to be slow to get up off the ground because he's tired of getting up from there. He's tired, I understand him. That's why he's getting up slow. The faster you get up, the quicker you're gonna be back down now. Well, I think you're just like, you know, like the quarterbacks normally, they normally spring up because now you make it seem like it's the offensive line, you know, you don't want to show anybody up.

So just, you know, just, just pop on back up like, Hey, yeah, we know, Hey, we know you take, yeah, we know you get, and like you said, the coaches understood the beating that he took. Yeah. But, Hey, I ain't finna show the defense. Y'all ain't finna know. Somebody might get a clean shot on me, Ocho, but you ain't gonna know it.

If I can get up, I'm gonna get my ass up. Now I have some stuff broken, I lay right there. Y'all come on and get me. I broke my collarbone, fractured my eye socket, Joe. I lay right there. But other than that, I done took some mean shots. Don't remember a whole lot. But that open the bone, yeah, the hair, he laid it out.

I was laid out for a minute too. Man, that thing hurt. It made it feel like the whole side of my face exploded. Man, listen. When I did mine, they took me to the back. Man, I thought somebody was hitting me in the back of my head with a hammer. That thing was hurting so bad, it just was ringing.

You got a headache? What, what? I'm talking about, it wasn't going away, Ocho. Damn. I'm talking about ringing, ringing. That thing hurt. It definitely hurt. The Falcons posted this picture today

before promptly, promptly deleting it. We're out here. Three, 28. What's wrong with it? Why they delete it? promptly deleting it. We're out here. 3, 28. What's wrong with it? Why they delete it? Huh? Yeah, what we miss her? 28, 3. Patriots, Falcons. Oh man. Oh, okay, okay, okay.

Oh man. Oh, so they got, there's somebody, the jokes, the jokes went flying, huh? Yup. Okay, understandable, but that's the past, that's the past, you have to lead it for that. Man, look here, Atlanta ain't gonna ever forget that, Joe, you better tell it. Man, listen, Ochoa, it so happened,

I was playing for the Brooklyn Nets at the time, but I was here in Atlanta, we was finna play the Haltz. Right. Couple days, so I had a little shindig at the crib. My partner came over here, he had his wife and his son decked out in Atlanta gear. I'm talking about, boy, they going crazy at halftime. You hear me? Throwing a whole...

Running to the bulls in my kitchen, going crazy. You hear me? Yeah. Ocho, boy, when that leash started trickling down, you should've seen that man. Hey, he lost it. He lost. He couldn't believe it lost Yo, there's already in the streets man, man My homeboy Bennett's filming pictures they parted in the street with the Super Bowl coming to Atlanta. What'd I tell you?

Hey, I'm not even trying to be funny when the 28-3 on I honestly thought the game was over I had jumped on the video game. I started playing FIFA I honestly thought the game was over. I had jumped on the video game. I started playing FIFA. I'm just thinking about it. And, you know, as playing the game, as long as I played it, especially two teams that are as good as they are to get to the Super Bowl, to be down 28-3,

there's really no way you can come back from that. Run the ball, put the ball. Run the ball, put the ball. They made every mistake that would not run the football. How you up 28-3 and you have fewer rushes in the second half than the team that's down 28-3. Matt Ryan know damn well he can't take a sack because they're in field goal range and he took a sack. And the play that changed it is when Tevin Campbell got hurt, they brought the backup back in, I forget his name, and he whiffed, and Hightower,

they had the guy open for a touchdown, and Matt Ryan was trying to throw it, and in the process, Hightower hit him, he fumbled. So that was the only she wrote. That was the only she wrote? Hold on, that fourth down, Kess from Edelman too, that ain't number, that ain't number one. It was almost picked off.

Yeah, that was number one. Number one of the football guys. But think about it, late in the ball game, the fourth quarter, I think it was like inside of two minutes, Julio made that great toe touch. Yeah. You in field goal range. Yes. Slime.

Oh, that was beautiful. You in field goal range. Now just run the football. Yeah. Why would you, why would you why would you and Matt Ryan had been playing long enough he knows he can't take a sack in that situation oh Joe he can't you just can't hey look they built that beautiful that beautiful stadium right after that thinking they was gonna get right back

to there and man it's hard to get back. Well, listen, man, you got to think about it. Hold on. They played us in 98. So it was almost 20 years before they went back again. All right, boy. Hey, I think people have been spoiled by the Patriots consistently going back over and over and over. In Kansas City?

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That all white that all white Penn State now all white Browns Uniform when you think of the Browns you think of that Jersey that's in that picture. Okay, yeah, you right. And look at the helmet. Ain't got no decal. Yeah. Right. Stadium now, I hadn't played in that stadium in... Oh, my goodness. Almost 20... Oh, almost 30 years.

So I don't know what... It was fairly new when we played in it. Right. So I don't know what it it was it was fairly new when we played in it, right? So it seemed but obviously they looking to build a new stadium now. So clearly it's outdated the Browns offense. Okay. Yeah Jacksonville's defense coaching Cowboys. I What's wrong with Vegas? I don't know. I didn't understand that one Fans charges ain't got no fan. They should what they shot Chargers should have done, Ocho, was renovated that stadium. I don't know, first of all, you don't have the fan base that's going to follow you. If I'm a Chargers fan, I'm not driving no two hours.

Well, it's only like 90 minutes. That's if everything is perfect. If the interstate opens up, it's 90 minutes. it's probably about four three and a half four hours man Chargers ain't got no fan base like that they don't I'm being honest they should have just read the money that they put to go into so fire so they could be second class to the Rams they should have just put that money into that stadium and built that right there. And the mascot. What the Raiders?

And the Raiders used to have, I don't know if that's Raiders mascot. It used to be the, uh, the black guy, the pirate guy with the shoulder pads. Hey, hold on. Also, do the, uh, Chargers and the Rams have the same owner? No, they play in the same building, SoFi Stadium. Okay. Stan Cronkite owns the Rams and what's the guy named to own the Chargers, Ash? Him and his sister.

Spranos, Dean Spranos. Okay. And his sister, uh, uh, Spran, Spanos, Dean Spanos. Okay. And his sister, they own it. But Cronky owns, he owns the Avalanche. He owns, uh, uh, uh, the Nuggets. And he owns, uh, Arsenal. He owns, I think he owns, he owns a soccer team too. I think it's Arsenal.

Hey, hey, Cronky smooth as hell, man. When you meet him, man. Mm-hmm. He fly, he fly. He fly, he a smooth dude. Yeah. Yeah, Rapids. Oh, yeah, he on the soccer team, the, uh...

Yeah, Colorado Rapids, yeah. Oh, Joe. What? Eight inmates are captured, two remains. The missing after more than a week on the run. The eighth inmate was captured and back on the rules and is back in custody. The sixth and seventh were arrested

after leading law enforcement officers on several agencies on a high speed chase through Huntsville, Texas. You know, Huntsville, they got the prison, Huntsville got a, they got a prison, that's where the big prison at, and it's right there. So they might just stop him off right there. We don't be worried about going back. We got y'all right here. Just drop y'all off at the hotel.

Hold up, I think one guy was doing a, did a TikTok video. Nah, but he ain't been swimming alone by 12 years. Hey, you think that was real? That was up to date or that was old? He got picked up? He ain't got picked up? Nah, no, the one with the tattoos ain't get picked up Yeah, you're the one with tattoos. He just did a tick tock video today. Oh Yeah, oh yeah, he had to talk about he been swimming in 12 years

So he had this women he lived his best life. Yeah, they listen, you know, you know what? I mean And the people can the people around him get in trouble. Hey, yeah, you know what, I mean, can the people around him get in trouble? Hell yeah, Aidy of the Baddie. Harbor to Fugitive, you damn right. He going to jail with him, Ojo. Well, I ain't listen. Him and Derrick, dude with the tattoos, I think the last name, the dude named Derrick,

he ain't going back, I can tell you that. He ain't going back. I think it's named Derrick. Oh, he definitely ain't going back. Yeah, his name Derrick. Oh, he definitely ain't going back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you can get in trouble. Yeah, they got best in all, boy. Out of everybody probably done messed up, man.

Oh yeah, yeah, cause the guy that had the overheat on got caught. So the one that they thought was gonna be the last one to get caught. Nah. All right, we're gonna get you out of here on this one. The last segment of the evening is time for Q and A. NoRoy75 said, we strive, we thrive,

no jive, paces in five. Ha ha ha ha. Uh, Quizzy said, cat and ant on different teams, I'm looking forward to the Knicks getting bounced. Summertime in NYC is already enough shenanigans. Don't need to supersize the nonsense. Damn, P. Dub, I thought you want them to go to the NBA Finals. You know them. If the Knicks was the winner, you know what New York, they're going to turn it around. They're going to turn it around.

They're going to turn it around. They're going to turn it around. They're going to turn it around. They're going to turn it around. They're going to turn it around. They're going to turn it around. They're going to turn it around. They're going to turn it around. They're going to turn it around. They're going to turn it around. They're going to turn it around. Damn, P-Dub, I thought you want them to go to the NBA Finals. You know them, if the Knicks was the winner, you know what New York, they're going to turn that thing upside down.

What? I told you what happened. If the Knicks were to go, let's say go to the Finals, the statue literally going to start walking and switch hands. The torch going to switch hands. Man, listen, they win that next game, it's going to be, yeah. Man, listen, they win their next game, it's gonna be, yeah. Milo said, the current NBA generation is so weak. Joe Johnson was a better player than Ant-Man, Brunson, and Halliburton. If only teams built around their players then like they do now. Boy, it's a different game now. Okay, I'll tell you what your idiot is.

You know, when I came into the league, you had two traditional bigs. Your four man was not shooting a three. No. Your four man was not shooting the three. No, your five man was not shooting three. Nope. But you played inside out. Yep. Yeah. That's how you play nowadays.

If you need a scoring point guard and that's who we're going to play through. If you score a point guard or scoring two or scoring three, they don't play through the bigs no more. Nope. The bigs got to get it how they live. get that thing. Yeah, let go with it Yeah, the only big that they played through is our yolk. That's it Him and MB. That's it. You be yep, but they probably only true Centers that we have left in the game right and play with that back to the basket and face up Yeah, because at the time, Joe, there's only one guy that can shoot the ball

and the three, the big, that was Dirk. Yeah, it was. He was the only stretch. Yeah, because you look at it, even Tim Duncan, KG, none of them dudes was shooting three. Hell no. Problems, but they weren't shooting three, but they was masters back to the basket.

A1D said, my boy Ocho got on them LeVar Burton shades on from Star Trek What you got on Ocho? Yeah, I don't chew on Collin says he asked the question. What do y'all things gonna happen first lines winning the Super Bowl or Ocho paying uncle's money? Lines winning Super Bowl or Ocho pay Uncle's money? Lines win Super Bowl. Just keeping it real. I can't, I can't keep sitting here and tell y'all no lie. Now. Come on man.

Don't do that, man. I didn't call it like I see it. Oh, I call it like, but also you don't see, you don't see the other part. I've been trying to, I told them there's many apps in the world. They take, they make technologies, made it easy to make transactions much easier. Do me a favor, get Apple Pay, get Zelle, get Cash App, get any of it. I could have sent it right to him. He said he don't want to download it.

I'm trying to get Ocho to pay. Hey, I'm old school, man. You know, he thinks about the scamming and all that. He ain't about to do all that. Hey, come on, Joe. Come on and all that. He ain't about to do all that. Hey, come on, Joe. Come on. He ain't about to do all that. Don't make no excuses for him. I'm just being real. I mean...

Man, I ain't been... I'm honestly gonna tell you, I haven't been on the computer. I can't tell you the last time I've been on the computer. All right. Hey, where your phone? Your phone right there by you, huh? Yeah. You got PayPal, create an email. I can send you the money right now. It's simple I can't do it. Yeah, he'll hey Joe. He'll know how to create no email. No, he'll want no money Joe I don't know how to create no email. Oh, come on. Let me ask you a question What makes you think I know how to create an email? We've got a team of 72 people Hold on as Jordan y'all gotta help on God now. Thank you. Thank you

Have a mouth help on God now. Thank you. Thank you Help him out help out God See the whole family. Oh Joe y'all been hanging out for quite some time. You've seen him on numerous occasions now I ain't trying to feel been in today what I do. I know I'm a Joe. I don't care. I don't carry no money boy I don't do that. Why carry hundred hours at a time That's it a hundred100. $20 bills too. Yeah, I ain't the type that carry no cash, but Joe, that ain't me. Okay. All right.

I ain't never, well, you got, don't forget, I know I've been moving a little different in 2025, but I'm still that same cheap, yeah, that's me. I don't carry no cash. Man, give me my money, Ocho. I'm trying to- Raheem Cunningham said, good night, Uncle Ocho, No Joe and Joe is my mom's birthday today, Antoinette Could you wish her a happy birthday for me? Please? We're big supporters. Love you all Absolutely Antoinette happy birthday from your son

Raheen He wanted to wish you a very happy birthday He wants to let you know just how special you are and how proud he is to be your son so from Joe Ocho and He is to be your son. So from Joe, Ocho and uh, Happy birthday and everybody at nightcap. Happy birthday, Antoinette. Happy birthday Zay Tray said, hey Ocho Can I get an invite to the wedding?

Oh, yeah, but yeah, we're gonna be right we're gonna um Shoot, but it's a long flight, boy. Boy. I sure hope you ain't paying me my money. Watch what I do to that wedding cake. Cool, unless you gonna come to Cambodia. Oh, don't have me my money. Watch what I do with that wedding cake. All right, brother. I bet you get 100 million views. Mm. I get 200.

I'm saying you'll get at least 100 million views. I got you. I'm gonna tackle that wedding cake What color you wear I think red red white with with gold trim Boy, what? Alright, alright, alright with the gold gold trimming with the red You know, it's part is part of this part of the culture part of the culture what culture?

with the red you know it's part is part of the culture part of the culture what culture? Cambodian culture man I just said that oh oh my bad my bad my bad yeah yeah yeah you know yeah I was like you part of the ninja ninja culture I don't know what you... It's gonna be a mixture we're gonna you know... Hey let me at you have bell bottoms on too? Yeah yeah you know I'm having a bell... You got a bell don't you have a bell? Hey, you know, listen, I've been spiffy all year, so I'm a, I'm a, I'm a keyboard.

Yeah, yeah, I've been, yeah, you know. Yeah, think about, you know, GQ hit me- I tell you what, I tell you what I'm gonna do. Don't give me my money. I tell you, I tell you, my plus one. Old friend of mine Joe Hey Everybody fighting. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Oh Joe everybody

Everybody it may be but it may him below the belt. So you need to get right? Hey, I don't pay the man I'm out of back. I won't hear. Hey, I have about a fight. I won't hear thousand now. No Hey, listen everybody invited Everybody gonna be coming to know Cambodia. I think this good I'll'll pay for the flights. You good. Don't worry about it You can't marry to Cambodia for real Yeah, we thought I'm gonna get married I thought you already had a place in uh Jamaica. Yeah, but that's but I can't I can't go back there because it's a completely different person that mmm Say less man, we

Hmm Say less man we Understand yeah, that's not so God was your one to go. I sure want to go to Jamaica Joe How about yeah, I can sing you there. That ain't no problem You still want to go to make I can see that I do I want to go to Jamaica. I can see you there. I do I want to go to Jamaica so bad Yeah Okay, sir case said my guys to question I so Joe is Tim's on the hot seat after this season playoff run Oh and oh Joe wasn't earlier Analysis on Josh Allen finally getting over the hump Josh Allen and Lamar finally getting over the hump this year

Joe you first. Is Timbs on the hot seat? I don't think he gonna be on the hot seat. I don't think so either. I think, you know, he's done a pretty good job in getting them to where they at right now. Maybe they need to add a little more depth to their bench. Yep.

Because I think running these dudes in the ground as they age, you get a little older. You know, man, it a couple years off you. Okay. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, and he played those guys heavy minutes during the regular season. Yeah, so it's gonna be I don't think look they knocked off the Vending champs they did it in five games. Yeah, so I think that bought him another year. I do too I think you're gonna be I right. They gotta get some help though. They gotta get them boys some help off that bench. Cause there's just too much pressure on Brunson and Cat to perform at the level that they need to perform it

for them to be- Every night. Yeah, it's too hard. It's too challenging. Ocho, Josh Allen and Lamar getting over the hump this year? Oh, man, listen, if anybody get over the hump, it's gonna be my goddamn Bengals. Now, if there's anybody else that's gonna be in the hunt

to actually get over the hump as well, it would be Lamar and it'd be goddamn Josh Allen. It's gonna come down to those three on the back end of things too, you know? Whoever plays mistake-free football, whoever plays mistake-free football when it matters most, they gonna get over it all. Yep.

I'm just hoping it's us. I'm hoping we only good. Well, Chase, thank you guys. Might need to play a little bit more in the preseason. Oh, yeah. So you don't start out slow. I like when he said that. I like when he said that.

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