Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Saquon Barkley believes Eagles are a Top 5 all time team, Steelers still waiting on Aaron Rodgers!

Episode Date: May 23, 2025

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “ochocinco” Johnson react to Saquon Barkley saying that last years Philadelphia Eagles are a top 5 team of all time, the Pittsburgh Steelers are still waiting on Aaron Rodgers, and Brock Purdy of the San Francisco 49ers believes he is a top 10 QB in the NFL and much more!01:48 - Saquon believes 2024 Eagles should be remembered as a Top 5 team of all time05:00 - Steelers waiting a little while longer for Rodgers to sign08:20 - Brock Purdy says he’s a Top 10 QB in the NFL23:11 - Ashton Jeanty pays for No.227:52 - Viral TikTok trend among NFL players30:21 - CFP accepted move to straight seeding39:20 - Low cost airlines to land standing only seats43:27 - If your parents made 80k in the 9051:50 - Chris Tucker’s family quit their jobs after finding out he made 20mil54:55 - Q & Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're listening to an iHeart podcast. Oh Joe, let me know what you think about this. Saquon Barkley believes the 2024 Eagles are and should be remembered as a top five team of all time. I firmly believe when you look at our team and what we had last year, I think we're a top five team of all time. If you really look at the season outside of our first four games, it was built to ask, but you can look out outside the first four games.

That's the whole point. We got to take it in its totality. Electrically. Yeah. As a single game, they were good. Maybe, maybe the, the, the, the back half of top 10 team, huh? Yeah. Back half of a top 10 team.

If I take out that Superbowl game, the Patriots are the greatest team all time. If I just take out that Superbowl, but I can't, Ocho. Hey, you can't at all. But listen, the Saquon is right in a sense, not top five, but that damn team was really good, especially on both sides of the ball at that. Yes. On both sides of the ball. That guy, damn, uh, Dijin, please hear what I'm saying.

Coupa de Jean. Yeah. Coupa deong, right? And that Keeyon Mitchell, to have the rookies, Braun, who came in from New Orleans Saints, to have the rookies step up the way they did and have those that came from other teams, Braun played phenomenal.

That got them, that front four, and then nobody gonna mention. Jaylen Carter. Listen, the cherry, the cherry on top of the ice cream was him getting Saquon Barbie from the deal giants. It put them over the top. Yes. Put them over the top.

And I really honestly think, Oh, I don't want to scream dynasty too soon, but what, but what they have, there's a chance they can be back at Vietnam. Oh yeah, for sure. There's a chance. Injuries is a big key. And the thing is, it's hard to, the reason why it's so hard in football low show because it's one game. Yeah.

All it takes is you have one bad game and you go home. Yeah. Yeah. You going home. So, and, and, and, and when you don't play a series sports, which football isn't a series sport, it's a game seven. Every game, the wild card game is a game seven. The divisional round is a game seven.

Obviously the championship game is a game seven. The Super Bowl is a game seven. So you're playing potentially two, three, four game sevens. Yeah, man. And there's really no margin for error because it's not necessarily the best team, it's the team that plays the best that given day. That Sunday, that Saturday or whatever the case it may be, Ocho, who

plays the best that day? Uh, but I do think they're good to look. I mean, we go back and we look at some of those 49ers teams of the eighties. We look at the Cowboys of the nineties. Uh, our team, the Broncos in 2000, uh, excuse me, in the nineties, uh, the Patriots teams, bro, the Steelers of the seventies. Yeah.

Yeah. Packers of the sixties. That they did. They're, they're like, Hey, the two, the 2000 Ravens. Yeah. Yeah. It's so, it's so many teams.

Yeah. I was very, very good and very worthy of being top five, top 10, but for sake of my sake, because they played so well on the back end, on both sides of the ball, I will give them credit, but top five is a little... Yeah, I think that's a stretch. Hey, Saquon, you have an unbelievable season, the team had an unbelievable season. Congratulations. But I don't know about that top five.

Steelers owner Art Rooney previously said at the start of April that the team would not wait forever on Aaron Rodgers to sign. Rooney said last month, Rodgers wants to come to Pittsburgh, but Rodgers has not made any public pronouncement about his intentions. And then today, Rooney was asked again about how long the team is willing to wait

for him to make a commitment. A little while longer. I'll say the same thing and the Steelers start OTAs next week. And they run through June 5th, a three day mandatory mini cap that ends off season program wraps up June 10th. So to make a long story short, Art Rooney the second is willing to wait however long it takes to get Aaron Rodgers. I mean, it's Aaron Rodgers.

Obviously, I told you what the leverage is. The leverage is what you did in the past. What he was able to do in the past is why he can have a team, a team organization like the winning Steelers who had what, five, six World Trophy? Six. Yeah, six.

He has the leverage right now because of what he's accomplished in the past. Not what he did with the Jets. They're not looking at that. They're looking, hoping that we can get somewhat, just a splash of the Aaron Rodgers of old. Because what we have right now is not going to cut it. It's definitely not going to cut it. So we're willing to wait. And that's the leverage that quarterbacks have when they are great in the NFL, especially back into their career.

The Aaron Rodgers are old, but the Jets got an old Aaron Rodgers. Still Aaron Rodgers, but they're two different players. But like you said, I mean, you're in that division. You got Burrow and you got Lamar to deal with. And so in order for you to have a chance to win, you're going to have to have exemplary quarterback play. Got you. And they feel that he gives them the best opportunity. I heard what they said about Mason Rudolph and anybody else. No, no disrespect to them, Ma. No disrespect to Mason Rudolph.

He's had his time. He's had his running in, in, in, in Pittsburgh. We know what that looks like. He's a, he's a, he's a quarterback. The journeyman. He's not an antipod. Mason Rudolph was what the Steelers and Mike Tomlin want us to think, want us to believe he would have never been, went to Tennessee. Thank you.

He'd still been their quarterback and they would not have been waiting for an Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. They would have not, they would have not went and got Justin Fields and Russell Wilson last year. If Mason Rudolph was what they telling, what they try to believe, oh, we have confidence. Y'all had so much confidence in them, y'all let him go to Tennessee. That's all words. That's all hot air. They have to say those things. They got to say the right thing, especially when the individual is back in the building. You know, you don't believe in him.

You know, you know, you know, he's not get the job done. Uh, second, second string quarterback, third string quarterback. If that you need an analogist, which is why you waiting. Cause there's only so many quarterbacks out there you can go get. Yeah. You're not trying to get none of them now. No, it's always a wrap. Yeah. What you ain't have, you won't be getting.

So you only got one choice. That's Aaron Rodgers. Ocho, Brock Purdy says he's a hundred percent a top ten quarterback in the NFL. I'm a top ten quarterback. I'll leave it at that. Purdy is now the seventh highest paid quarterback in the NFL. I'm a top 10 quarterback, I'll leave it at that. Purdy is now the seventh highest paid quarterback in the NFL. Purdy says he took less money because he doesn't need

every penny for himself and wants the team to win. Obviously, I wanna get a deal with what I deserve, also surround myself with guys around me. Not just try to take every penny for myself. He signed a five year, 265 million with 181 million guaranteed. If you look at your screen, you'll see what he's going to make after taxes. $53 million. Federal income tax is going to take $19,567,892. California is going to take $7,529,000. Federal payroll tax, $1,254,153.

California SID tax, $1,686. Total in taxes, Ocho, $28,352,731. He gets to bring home a little less than 25 million. Hmm I'm gonna address this top ten this top ten Top ten quarterbacks you want to dress the top ten. Yeah, okay, it's rock-per-try chat chat is Brock Purdy a Top ten quarterback. Is it? Yeah, I mean you you got me shit. He said it not me I'm gonna run through the top a top-jent quarterback? I want to run through the top quarterbacks

before I even answer that question. OK. Let's go through our top five, right? Well, go ahead. I'm going to let you go ahead and name a five. OK, let's go Joe Burrow, Lamar Clempson, Josh Allen, Jaylen Hurts. Who? Jaylen Hurts. Who?

Jaylen Hurts. Okay, four. This man doesn't name four quarterbacks and not one of them named my homes. Jerry Goff. I'm gonna keep, y'all stay with me. Stay with me now. Patrick Mahomes, Jerry Goff, Patrick Mahomes.

Where I'm at, at seven? Seven. You want CJ Stroud? CJ Stroud, Jaden Daniels. Jaden Daniels, that's 10. Jordan Love? Oh my goodness, Jordan Love. That's 11.

Okay, uh... Matthew Stafford? Yeah, yeah, I forgot about... Gunslinger Stafford, that's 12. That's 12. Um... Come on, who else, who else? I'm missing somebody. That's 12. That's 12. Come on, who else, who else? I'm missing somebody.

Well, that's 12, that's 12 guys right there. Yeah, I mean, listen, I love Mark Kurdy. I love when he was able to do it. And you didn't mention, you didn't mention Dak. You didn't mention, oh, who else? Yeah, you said Jane Day, yeah. So that's 12 right there. So you got Perky.

Huh? I know, I'm going to tell you, I love Brock Purdy in Shannon Hannon's system. I love him. I love the way he looks when all the pieces are in place. Deebo, Ayuk, Troom Williams, Officer Lyons in attack, Christian McCaffrey. And I have a question.

There's no disrespect to Brock Purdy because he plays extremely well and does what's asked of him in that specific system. Can you take a Brock Purdy and take away all the talent that's around him? Will he still look the same as a Brock Purdy saw with all the elite talent around him? I think the thing is- You mean the type of quarterback that can elevate a team? That's the thing.

That's the word I want you to use. The type of quarterback that can elevate a team? That's the thing. That's the word I want you to use. The type of quarterback that can elevate a team without adding talent to Ron? Is he that type of quarterback? Right. I'm asking you. Yeah. That's the word I wanted you to use. I didn't want you to strip out a talent because every quarterback has talent.

But I believe there are certain quarterbacks that elevate the talent that they have. That's what made Brady special. Brady could elevate the talent. Now as he got older, he needed people to help elevate him. That's okay. But he had 18, 19, 20 years of elevating others. So if he wanted to get a little help the last couple of years, by all means, I work, I welcome that.

Um, yes, I don't look at, I don't, I don't look at Brock Purdy as a multiplier. What I mean by that, I don't believe he can just take ordinary at Brock purdy as a multiplier. What I mean by that, I don't believe he can just take ordinary people and make them really good, great. I think, you know, he takes, I mean, can he get the ball there? But, um, um, um, Christian McCaffrey is pretty good without him. Um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um. He doesn't have this. He, he, he throws with great anticipation because he doesn't have the strongest arm, so he has to let the ball go a lot sooner than a lot of these quarterbacks do. Uh, and, and, and, and in Kyle's system, if it requires you to have a great

understanding of that offense, it has, you have to have a great recall process information like this. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's good at that's why, that's why I said he's, I want to talk about these. I want to talk about how this man made 53 million and he going to come home with 24 million. How Uncle Sam get to take, how Uncle Sam get to take 28 and give you 24. But that's the way it works.

No, I want to give you 24 and I you 24. But that's the way it works. No I want to give you 24 and I'll take 28. Boy Uncle Sam, that's why Uncle Sam, you always see notice he always point at you. And that finger mean. When you talk about he want you, I want my money back. That's what I want. Federal, man, 19 mil. Well, since they slash Medicaid, I ain't paying no Medicaid tax no more. I ain't paying that. So stop taking that by check. Nah, hey, I don't fool with Uncle Sam, old chou.

Yeah, man. Uncle Sam don't play, boy. Yeah Yeah I'd rather pay him more than I owe than not pay him enough because honest mistake is still gonna cost you interest. Yeah. And their interest hit different. Now they don't give you to say the interest that they charge you versus the interest that they give you on your money, is two different things. Yes sir. Two.

But look, I do think he's earned his contract, Ocho. Mr. Relevant, he's gone to two NFC Championship games. He's taken a tune to a Subo. He's gone to a Pro Bowl. And this is the going rate for a quarterback. Right. I'm good with that. Look, everybody can't, look, everybody can't listen.

Everybody can't be top five. Even when I was in the league, Ocho, there weren't a whole lot of top five quarterbacks. There, there's your core, there's your elite guys. Then you got guys underneath, but guys gonna, you know, a quarterback is going to command the premium. That's just the way it is. He plays a premium position. It's just like, oh Joe, you want to go live in San Diego, you are going to play premium. You want to go live in the Bay, you're going to play premium. You live in Bel Air, you live in Beverly Hills, you live in

Brentwood, you live in Harmby Hills, you live in Malibu. You are going to play a premium for those locations. locations where he plays quarterback. He doesn't have to be my homes in order to get my homes. Ask money. No, he's a very, very good quarterback. He's a tier two quarterback on that plays extremely well and does what he's asked of in that Pacific system. Yes.

Very, very efficient level. We can and we got. I mean, boy, very efficient level, week in and week out. I mean, boy, I be crying, but you know, the thing is, people are like, man, just be glad you got it. Okay. That don't mean I want to give it away. The whole re- I mean, cause you know, you growing up on your, you just see that big number, you like, you ain't even thinking about those taxes.

What taxes? It don't even cross your mind because the only time you, you're growing up on your you just see that big number. You like you anything about those taxes. What taxes? I was telling you, it don't even cross your mind because the only time you didn't have to deal with on time, you worry about taxes, you go buy a soda and you pay a two cent or you buy gum or something like that. And you play a little, little do you know. Yeah. Damn. That's what you got to.

That's what you got to educate people on. Oh, Joe is the A. Yeah. That thing might say 15 million, but you not bringing home 15 million. Chop that in half, baby. Depending on where you are, that could be half or more than half. Yeah, chop it off. Yeah, so I'm just saying just FY.

So why you, oh man, I'm gonna buy this, buy this. Okay, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna saying just FY. So why you, oh man, I'ma buy this, buy this, okay. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna want his cut. He want his. You want that. And so, yeah, but he's deserving, Ocho. I mean, and you know, they took care of,

I love when teams take care of their guys that's been really, really well and don't all that playing around and we got a handshake deal and we gonna get this done, but he is on the contract man go ahead and pay that man you do this every year that's what that's why you find yourself in the position that you're in cowboys cuz you wait till the umpteenth hour don't purpose because the thing is I don't get why

Because the thing is I don't get why fans don't have a problem. Oh, take a discount. Y'all think these teams give these TV's, these companies deals? These media rights ain't got no deal. You paying premium. Any advertiser or sponsor are paying a premium for these teams.

Oh no, but you're the player there. I don't, I've never understood that. I never understood how fans can be so ingratiating of billionaires and be so hard on a millionaire. The loyalty is to the team, not the player. Always, always. I was a fan of that team before you ever arrived. So when you leave, when you retire, whether they trade you, whether you get cut, you

retire, Cowboys still my team. The Rams still my team. The Ravens or the Bengals or the whomever, the Broncos, that's still my team, whether you're there or not. So naturally the loyalty lies to the team. But I wish they understood. But hey, it is what it is. We ain't changing nobody's mind now, Ocho.

They've been a fan for an extremely long period of time. A lot of times you grew up, that's who your grandfather, your father, your mom, or whomever, grew up, that's who your grandfather, your father, your mom, or whomever, family member, that's who they're rooted for. You grew up rooting for that. And even though you don't live in the same city where that team played in, you go spread your wings. And that's why when you see the Steelers hit the road,

that's why they have a lot more people in the home team. When you see the Cowboys or the Packers or Broncos, that is why. The Eagles. Eagles, because they they grew up, that was my team. And when I became an adult, that's still my team. And guess what? I tell my kids.

And then my kids grew up, that's their team. Sometimes they branch out like that, I will get my own team. I'm here. I want to think for myself. I want to do my own thing. But for the most part, Ocho, that's that that's, that's the, that's the way it wrote work. Now you got, you know, new teams that just popped up, but everybody, I mean, the last, what the last tape was 2002, uh, when, um, the Texans came in because 90, 95, it was the Panthers and the Jags and then the Houston Texans,

it was the Panthers and the Jags and then the Houston Texans, you know, became a franchise because after the Oilers left and went to Memphis and first and then they came on down to Nashville. And I don't know, I don't think you will get, I don't, I, it's so perfectly balanced now, Ocho. You know, you got 32 teams, you got eight, 14 divisions and things like that. So it will be hard to bring in one team. Maybe you bring in two, but who got, I mean, who got an extra $7 million? Jerry don't want another team in Texas.

Now the Florida teams don't want another team in Florida. You got, you got three, you got Jacksonville, you got Miami, you got Tampa. What are you going to put them at? Oh Joe. That's a no way, no way to put them. Texas. You got the Cowboys, you got the, uh, and the, and the, uh, the Texans, they don't want another team in Texas.

So where can you put it? Where can you put them? These college towns don't want you to bring no damn teams up there. So, looked like we stuck for a while and let somebody move. And I think, didn't the Washington Commanders, didn't they just close on, they're going to be ORFK? I think they're going to build a new stadium up right there. Yeah, it's not that far away though. Nope Asking gente said Daniel Carson could buy a car With the cost of the Raiders number two Jersey to. The star running back said Kicker Daniel Carson,

who was formerly number two, could purchase a new car with the money he was given by Gendy for the number. You could probably buy a house, actually. I'm not going to say a house, but you can buy a car like a nice Mercedes. Gendy wouldn't reveal the exact figure he paid, but it was significant if Carson can buy a car with it.

I've worn the majority of my career. It's a day of greatness was born. And the day I was born, December 2nd, it's a family number. All my family members who played sports wore the number two. Ocho, what is the most money you would spend for the number 85? Shoot, when I'm with you. Now I'm talking about that.

I'm saying under the impression that you were first round pick, you were top pick. Let's just say a top 10 pick cause Gentie was six pick in the draft. I mean, being that it has sentimental value, maybe, maybe closer. And he was a top pick like that. And he's number six, right? Yep. Maybe a hunt, maybe 100,000 because hundred thousand because of what the number means,

especially what the number means to him. Hell, I had to pay for 85 from on, but I went to the Patriots from Aaron Hernandez. How much you paid for it? Maybe 25 grand. You said, that's the number, what you said, that's what I would have said. I would have said 100,000.

Yeah, you showed love though. You showed love. Just a hundred, a hundred thousand. Yeah. You can't be Ocho with 81, 82, 83, 84, 86, 88, 89. You can't be Ocho with that. Uh, chat, if you guys were top 10 pick and you had a special number that you had pretty much worn through high school and college,

what is the amount that you would spend to get that number? Like most guys are superstitious, aren't you? Yeah, I mean, listen, he talked about his family wearing the number, him being born on the second, wearing it through college, his family wore number two. I mean, but a hundred thousand, that's the limit. That's the limit. I'm not going over that. Absolute limit. Anything over that, man, man, go ahead, forget you.

I just started a new line. I started a new number, a new number of importance at that point. Yeah, don't call me Ocho. Don't call me Ocho right now. You call me Ocho, but don't call me Cinco. Yeah. I think Juan Soto gave the guy a new Tahoe for 22, right? You call me Ocho, but don't call me Cinco. Yeah. I think Juan Soto gave the guy a new Tahoe for 22, right? He probably making three million.

Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. But if you want that number, don't worry about what I'm making. You want a number? I don't. Don't worry about it, don't count my pockets. You want a number? I don't. Don't worry about it. Don't count my pockets. What? You want a number? Because I gladly keep kicking field goals in it. Mm hmm. I thought you wanted it. Yeah. I mean, as a kicker, you should be willing to come up off your number.

I ain't giving up nothing. Play it like that. Mm hmm. Unfortunately, I ain't going to be able to do that. I wish you was something I could tell you to make you feel better. But no, I can't. I'm OK. I'm going you to make you feel better But no, I can't I'm okay. I'm a paid for it. Yeah 100 grand is what I do. Yeah, 100 grand. Yeah, and I don't know if cars Hold on Shohei Otani bought about an old boy wife a car bought our Porsche. Yeah

Yeah, I know, Juan Soto bought the guy that gave him 22, he bought him a Tahoe, but Shohei bought the player that he got, I don't even know what Shohei number is, but he ended, I know he ended up buying the guy's wife a Porsche. Yeah, I mean, the kind of money they making off, that's different. Well, you think about it,

he got, see, he getting 70 million million in salary and he's probably doing another 10, 15, 20, 30 million in endorsement, especially which in Japan the Asian market he's He's King Kong Hmm I mean had had had I mean the perfect name for him would be Godzilla, but had Decker Maxui had that name so he can't be Godzilla.

Yeah, yes. He deferred it. He only making one million a year now, but he deferred it. He deferred it on the back end. Yeah. He said I'm gonna go back to Japan and California, y'all nothing to get all my money. Y'all nothing to get all my money. Y'all nothing to get all this bread. Yeah, for sure. But Ocho and I in the agreeance, 105. Ocho, there was a viral TikTok trend going around the NFL where players were calling their teammates to wish them a good night.

Mikey, commanders Mikey, Commanders Mikey Sincetrile got in on the fun last night and called his quarterback. Let's take a look at this, Ocho. This was self-finding. Yo, bro. Yo. This is ZB. ZB, that's not in my mind.

Yeah, so I'm just gonna see you tomorrow, bro. I was just gonna say good mind. Yeah, so I'm just gonna see you tomorrow, bro. I'll just come and say good night. Bro, what the fuck? You straight dog? Huh? Bro, we good? What you mean? You just call her and say good night.

Like, bro, good night, bro. You're my dog, bro. I'm just checking in real quick. I just talked to you five minutes ago. I know that, but we're like, I ain't say good night, bro. Like, sleep well, bro. Bro. Bro.

I can't tell my homies like, sleep well, bro. Get good rest. Hey, bro. Bro, I don't know what type of shenanigans you're on right now, bro. This year I think we're real bonkers right now. Hey. Boy, I had to hit that. Look here.

I said, boy, if you don't get your ass off my phone and hung up so quick. I'm like, but you for real? Good night? Oh, man. Hey, big, all my homies, man, if you for real? Good night? Oh man. Hey, all my homies, man, if you don't get your ass off my goddamn phone, man, they would have known something was up

because it's something that I don't do. No. And they would have started cracking jokes, would have said some crazy stuff. Man, that's how I... They gonna be like, hey man, you okay over there? Is that cold for something? Somebody got you kidnapped, you hostage or something?

Hey blink twice if you need help. Yeah. Then what you doing? Why you playing like this? Sharp, what's wrong with you? Hey, listen, I can't record nothing like that. My people gonna say something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm gonna get what you're going to do. Okay, so offensive, then I can't even post. Yeah. recording it like that on my people yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you dad that ain't something I could do live man boy you don't get your ass off my phone Oh man. Yeah, I, yeah. Ocho College, uh, CPF CFP, College Football Playoff, executive unanimously adopted a move to straight seeding for this year's playoffs at a call today. Teens will be seeded directly, one through 12, eliminating the concept designated for top four C's from conference champs. Ocho, you like this? Say that one more time.

So in other words, what they did last year, they took the conference champions and they ranked those teams. So they've got one, two, three, four rankings. Now there's no more. It doesn't matter. You can rank one through twelve, whether you're a conference champ or not. The top four teams will get a buy, can still get a buy. Right. But it's not like Ohio state got a buy because they won, you know, they won the big, you know, the big 10. Um, whomever else, I forget who, or boys in state, I think got a buy.

Uh, who else got a buy? I can't think off the top of my head. Uh, maybe Texas. No, Georgia, maybe it was Georgia that got a buy. I'm not sure though, but I'm saying, but right. So, but moving forward, there'll be no more. If you're a conference champion, now that solidifies you to get one of the top four seeds. No, it's all 12 teams make the playoff.

And just because you're a conference champ, that doesn't mean you're going to get the buy. Yeah. I don't like that. Obviously winning conference champ, winning conference champ should come with some type of. Benefit? Yeah. I mean, obviously, especially, especially, especially being able to have a buy. We having the buy and achieving, you know, winning a conference

championship should come with something. And just, just having the seating one to 12 and just having to get, listen, some people might like it. Some people will not. I would love to know how the players feel about it and I would love to know how the coaches feel about it, uh, about this new format. Obviously there's always money behind everything that they do. For sure.

I'm sure the way this format works is so those, it's in bigger slices of pie for everybody. Mm-hmm. I think the thing is, Ochoa, everybody get a buy anyway. It's not like what they make the play, you play the next week. Ochoa, the kids 17, 18, 19. Yeah.

Then you make it seem like the joke is 32, 33. Yeah. But do you remember when you was that age, what you could do? Run all day. Play a football game Friday night and be ready to play another one Saturday night. Saturday night.

Yeah, shit yeah, and play Sunday too. Yeah. So these kids, I mean, that's why they can ride them, that's why they practice them like they practice them. You can hit all of these. We hit all the time in college, when I was college. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we hit hit Listen, I I don't know. I like the format whether I like it or not I just know from a financial standpoint. It makes sense. Yeah, I just don't know

I don't know how they did it but it makes sense from somebody I'll be honest. Oh Joe. I don't I don't really remember being so when I was in college Do you remember being so right to play in a game? My shoulders a little bit, but not my legs Now not really cuz we didn't have we didn't have no cold tub. So what are you gonna get in? I? Mean I've been wondering... Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh. Man, I'm trying to... I'm trying to think who we played.

Oh, we played Morehouse. I'll never forget it. My sophomore year. We played Morehouse. We lost. Coach Davis came in that thing, he said, Hey. He said, I ain't even mad at y'all. He said, he said, it's my fault.

I'm looking at him like, you ain't you. He said, it's my fault because I brought you sorry both foes up here. He said, your uniform ain't dirty right now and ain't nobody play. He said, I got a good mind. I said, I should make all you sorry ends. We had one white boy on the team. He said, I ain't talking about you, homes. He say, he say I should make all you sorry, sorry ends. Walk except Sharp and Squirrel. Squirrel with the other receiver on the other side. He said, everybody else should buy,

should make y'all walk back to Savannah. We in Atlanta. He said, but since y'all didn't hit nobody today, put that issue on tomorrow, and I'll see y'all at the field at one o'clock. You already had practice the next day. Practice, and I gained uniform. Yes.

I don't know how it is now with you, cause that was 40 years ago for me. But I'm telling you, Bill Davis, that plate, Bill Davis got butter from a duck. Oh yes, sir. Yes, sir. Bill Davis said I got gotta trim the fat. I gotta trim the fat. That was his thing. We need to go have one of them hard ass practices. I love y'all with them three hour practices.

Yeah. That was his thing. He called us up, damn hoes, I gotta trim the fat today. Uh oh, Lord. He gotta trim the fat? I gotta trim it. I love you. I don't wanna never lean me. I don't want nobody lean me.

I don't want nobody lean me. Oh, he get it after two. We start with them gasses, Ocho. We start with gasses over, over back, over back, over. I mean, so we go all the way to seven. So you go over, that's one. Over back, that's two. Over, all the way to seven. So you go over, that's one. Over back, that's two. Over, all the way to seven.

Woo. And then you do calisthenics. And then you stretch. I know y'all had to be in shape, boy. What? Woo. Boy, Ocho, them were the days. Yeah.

Them were the days, Ocho. And you talk about that, hey, anybody from that area, Savannah, know how hard it get? They know how hard it get in the end of July and August. Yeah. I was like, man, I used to ask my brother, I called my brother and tell him, say, man, what we always did. He said, I said, man, it's like that in the family. He's like, nah.

Because, Ocho, you know, you say, I know how much we ran in high school. So obviously natural, I think I'm gonna run at least that even more in college. So I'm thinking the next level, I'm gonna run just like that. Absolutely not. But Dan Reeves, Dan Reeves learned from Coach Landry. Ocho, you jumped outside, you had to run 400 meters. Jumping off sides? Offside, any mistake that you make, jumping off sides,

are 400 meters. Man, Ocho, you remember I told you, huh, huh, your boy gone. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? You remember I told you, huh, huh, you boy gone. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Ah, man, one day I had to run. Ocho, I ain't gonna lie, Ocho, one time I had to run a mile.

Oh, man. But I stayed off it. I'm like, damn. I'm like, man, I had me think, Ocho, I had to go. I got so tired, Ocho, you know you get tired, you know. I'm like, are they changing the snap count on me? Yeah. They telling me one thing and it's on something else. Cause I could have swore I heard one. Right.

But boy, there was the days, oh, man, I'm telling you man, me and my homeboy Bucky was talking about that man, Bill didn't play man. Bill did not play that, ooh. Like damn, you know, they, they got a team today. I'm sure they practice and met and did all those things, but team we were supposed to beat and we didn't beat. Yeah.

Well, that next week practice is going to be soft Mocho. And that was back in the day. Oh Joe, that was back in the day. We had Oklahoma, we had bull in the ring. Hey, I remember that. I remember long to us had bullet in the ring. Hey, I remember that Darius bullet a ring Hey, you know, hey, you know shape you don't show had a sleaze all tied up on Joe. They won't shake

Yeah, I'm the bullet array Oklahoma drew out to buy this as a little kid. I'm doing it We did at a college. Oh, yeah I mean, I mean do that in college. Oh, but it was fun when you was a kid, cause you wanted, you pride yourself on being the toughest. Uh huh. Hey, oh, do you get that thing you turn around? You can hear, hey, he's against somebody's number. You don't know who it is, and you get the feet going. Yeah.

Ah! Hey, it was the day, but in the NFL, we did it, it was more so a receiver blocking drill, but it was still the same offset. It was still Oklahoma drill, but it wasn't laying down and just, you know, thud up. Yeah, because a lot of times, Ocho, you know, sometimes when we have force, you push the corner and then you go crack the safety. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Drop that thump on them, Ocho.

All right, Ocho, this is right up your alley right here. Low cost airlines to launch standing only seats in 2026. From 2026, a handful of Europe's low cost airlines plan to swap out some economy seats for Skyriders 2.0, half standing saddle style perched that promise rock-bottom ticket prices. Try free. By shaving off bulk and tightening up the space between rows, airlines say they can cram up to 20% more passengers on a flight. Ocho, you gonna fly this, Ocho? Notice they say Europe. They ain't say nothing about that in the United States. So we good. We good.

Ocho, you do realize a lot of the game shows that you see on TV, they start in Europe. Yeah. I understand. Survivor and all that other stuff. They start right there. It ain't working. It ain't working over here. It ain't gonna work. But I'm trying to say, because sometimes people be squeezing in them seats. How you gonna squeeze it that right there?

Nobody is that's why it's not gonna be able to work down here You know because some of us are a little a little healthy, you know some of us are a little healthy over here in the States and No, we we good. We go. Hey, guess what? Oh, no UK UK by two seats Yeah Listen, I know some of the game shows start in Europe, but there's certain things that we're going to keep over here.

Can't y'all open to that? Nah, I'm good, bro. You know what that reminds me of? That reminds me of an amusement park ride. You know how you have an amusement park ride, you sitting in your legs, dangling and stuff on your chair? Nah, I'm good, bro. Hey, what's the one that goes in a circle? It goes in a circle.

They got the swings, they got a bunch of them. They got like the bad man, they got super bad. Standing up. Yeah. It goes so fast and then it raises up. And the bottom drops out, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm good. Oh you don't ride the roller coaster? I ride the roller coaster, I'm just saying I'm good as far as being on a flight and being on a stand-up. Oh yeah, yeah. I hadn't ridden a rollercoaster so long. I probably, I'd make me throw up.

Yeah. I ain't ridden a rollercoaster since the kids were kids. Yeah. I've gotta say probably, probably 20 years? Nah, maybe longer than that. I'm consistently on roller coasters. Dade County Youth Fair comes around during March and April. But I take the kids to the youth fair. I'm still riding roller coasters. Wow. Ocho, if your parents made 80,000 in the 90s, you'd have to make $246,382 in 2024 to have

that same life. Hmm. Let that sink in. If your parents made 80,000, you would need to make damn near a quarter of a million to live the same type of lifestyle. Hey, my grandma, my grandma made 80,000 her whole life. Yeah.

Let alone in one year. And she was looking at me. My grandma, I think my grandma might've made, hold on. My grandma's most, she's probably ever made in a year is 5,000. Yeah, 197 every two weeks. If she didn't do overtime. Right. Yeah, my grandma make maybe 5,000 push if she did overtime

or she went in or, you know, they called it in on a day off. Yeah, but time is day off. Yeah. But time is different now. Everything is going up. So the price of living, obviously. And then what I don't like is the wages need to go up to meet that. Why was I just curious, say minimum wage needs to be able to meet the needs. Everything is going up, but the, I, but minimum wage when I was a kid, Ocho, was $3.35 an hour.

I think it's what, $7.25 an hour now? What is it now, $7.25, $7.50? It's not enough, that's what it is. Who you telling? It's not enough. Those in the service industry should be paid more. Teachers, professors should be paid more. $7.25 an hour.

So prices have gone up exponentially. Crazy. But wages have not met that. It doesn't matter if they can live comfortably. Man. And they need to start service industry and teachers. Oh yeah. Yeah.

No, teachers ain't gonna make no hell no. Cause a lot of times people just send their kids to work. That's daycare. That's free daycare. Hey, but what teachers have to deal with, especially today? Yeah. If your kid bad at home, what you think he is? If your kid bad with you.

What you think they are at school? Yes. If they talk back to the teacher, you know they're talking back at home. Yeah, absolutely. Not me, though. I just wouldn't talk. I talked at school, because, see, my grandma's like, boy, stop all that talking. Talk when you get to school. When I got to school, the teacher say,

Shannon, be quiet. Talk when you get home. I was, uh-huh. Granny told me to talk when I got to school. You ass out on this one. I'm talking. Give me a F for conduct. But I am not about to get talk when I got to school. You ass out on this one. I'm talking. Give me a F for conduct, but I am not about to get beat when I go home because I'm talking excessively.

No. I stayed in, my dad stayed in the hall, Ocho. Yeah. Oh, when you talk too much? Yeah, I did most of my homework. I did most of my homework. In the hallway. I stick my head after it. I did most of my homework in the hallway. I think my a after it Shannon

Can I come back in no I love bad. Oh, I just I mean talk. Yeah, but come on now I wouldn't I wouldn't even in class. I was skipping class. I was all in all the people P class I'm all in lunch when I ain't supposed to be in month No, no with the days Joe, those are the days. Those were the days. I ain't trying to go back to him. No.

I ain't trying to go back to him. But they helped 80,000. So hell, I was in the 90s old Joe, I wasn't making 80, I was a professional athlete making 63. Hmm. 63 bands. My, how times have changed. In real with 1500 a month.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Spitt listen, you talk about rent being 1500 a month. Well, you know you moved to Houston or Atlanta, shit rent, shit, yes or no? Yeah, you go Ocho, Ocho. I know, know, you moved to Houston, Atlanta. Shit rent. I know I'm just, I'm just, I just want to throw that out there. I got, I got a friend of mine. Got a nice, got a nice, nice condo, nice high rise. He paid 25, paid 25 on it in case you want to move out there. Thank y'all very much.

Uh, Ocho. Yeah. No. No what? I'm not moving to Houston, Ocho. I mean, we might as well. What you mean we? I would think about doing it too.

Me and the missus been talking about relocating to Houston. We can get a lot of bang for your buck. I got a lot of bang for my buck right here. I know but you so far away from everything. Huh? Houston puts us in the middle of everything. We can get to the east. I ain't close enough to LA. Yeah, that ain't number two hours.

I'm 44 minutes now. Let me take that back. We 38 minutes, hey, with George. It's up to give or take. Yeah, that ain't number two hours. What, we 38 minutes from Callie? No, fly. Yeah, 38.

I'm listening. I'm listening. I wish I might drive to Cali. Hey, just, hey, you heard me. Just sit down and think about it for a little bit. Think about it. Listen, hey, you heard me, I can get, I can get 20,000 square foot, 20,000 square feet,

you know, about six, seven, eight acres, you know, for a little bit of nothing. I don't want that. I don't want no 20,000. This is, this, I got plenty of house. This is more than enough house for me. Right, right. Okay. I got plenty of house. This is more than enough house for me. Right, right.

Another chat, don't think I should move to Houston. Yeah, I just got this custom fence put in that they finally, after eight months. Right. Oh no. Oh, Joe, man, the guy came in, puttin' the fence in today. Yeah. He rang the doorbell. Ding dong. I come to the door. He's like, I just, you know, we

put the fence in, you know, we put in a wall in, we get everything taken. Now, we are, we off the next four days. I was like, okay. So I don't know when we're going to get back and finish this up. Right. I said, hold on. So you're not coming tomorrow. You're off Saturday, Sunday, Monday. And you don't know when you're coming back? You mean to tell me you can't come back like Tuesday

and finish it up? Well, you know we got so many other jobs. I said, what the hell is this? Is this not a job? Right. What you mean they've been working in this business for eight months? Now what kind of fence you got?

Man, they do, hey, they pour a little concrete, they build something, paint something, go for two weeks. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on, you got Mexicans, you made no Mexicans, huh? I don't know who doing it, but I wish they finish it. Well, listen, if you ask Mexicans, see that thing, if you were down in Houston or you're down here in Miami,

shit would have been done in a week. Got them Bayes, they got them prolonging the process. I thought, oh Joe, I came close. It came down because, you know, we looked at Austin, we looked at Dallas, we looked at Houston, we looked at Nashville. Nashville was out of, Nashville was out of it because it's so far away

from Cali. Austin, I was like, Austin is really a college town. And I was like, nah. Dallas, after going there, doing the show, I was like, nah, Dallas ain't me. Houston, you already know what I think of Houston. You know what I think of Houston. Yes, sir.

I said, I can't do it. Can't do it. Ash wanna move, cause she'd be 20 minutes from home. No. Yeah. Listen, you ain't gotta do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it some time next year, man. You going to do it next year? You leaving Miami?

I'm going to get one of them big boys, boy. Nah, hell nah. I'm going to get one of them big boys, man, with the two, three acres, man. Give me a nice horse. Four wheelers, dirt bikes. Man, do you know how much a horse eat? I don't think you understand. I don't think you understand. I don't think you understand. I don't think you understand. I don't think you understand. big boys man with the, you know, two, three acres man. Give me a nice horse, four wheelers, dirt bikes.

Man, do you know how much a horse eat? I don't think you understand. I don't think you grasp the gravity of how much a horse eat. I know, horses is right here behind me. I'm out here in Davie now. I ride my horses, I've been doing my homework. Yeah, I know, they eat crazy. Yeah, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready.

I know. Oh, Joe, check, ooh, hoo, hoo. Chris Tucker says his family members all quit their jobs after they found out he was making 20 million a year. They were like, we rich, we rich. I was saying, no, I'm rich, I'm rich. Get y'all jobs back. Tucker, any experience is a unique.

Many celebrities and high earners face similar expectations. Despite earning over $50 million for the Rush Hour franchise alone, Tucker's wealth didn't last. As of 2024, Tucker's net worth is estimated at $5 to $6 million, a fraction of his peak earnings. Mm. That's different. Yeah, boy, that's tough. Yeah, yeah, but his taxes, I think, you know, not paying taxes, you know.

Because I think the thing is what people don't realize, like, let's just say you get 20 million for a movie. Your agent take 20% of that. Might as well slice that in half. So that's two million. Okay, Uncle Sam, go get his half. So if you got a PR person, you got a nice house, Ocho, you down to... Money go, money, no, money, no. Hey, you have to be like, if you're not used to having money, Ocho, yeah, you have to be really, really careful. Extremely, especially with family.

Especially with family. Gotta know when to say no. You got to. Gotta know when to say no. And I get it, it's not easy because, you know, everybody was like, you know, they were there when I had nothing. I say, are we trying to get back there?

Yeah. That's what I know. Are we trying to get back there? I thought, I know. Are we trying to get back there? I thought that was the whole purpose of doing what we did so we didn't have to go back there. Right. But I was very fortunate. My brother played and just me, him, my sister,

we took care of what we were supposed to take care of. That's it. That's it. That's it. Cause I know I wasn't going back there. I'm not trying to do no manual labor anymore. The pay is not good enough. Ain't no health insurance. Nah, I'm good.

And that's bad. I know, and I know talk too. I know talk well. I mean, but Ocho, why would your family think they could quit? I can understand if you married and your wife said, baby, cool, okay, fine. I get that. Or maybe your mom. Yeah. But everybody?

I mean, immediate family. Mom and dad. Everybody else. I don't know what y'all talking about. I don't understand what y'all talking about. Especially when we didn't have no conversation about it tell us we rich excuse me I don't even speak French no I don't know nothing about this we oh what game you got on your Wii you remember these dad a game the game console Wii yeah what you got you got tinnitus I like tennis and bowling no sir ain't nobody ain't no I I got four or five brothers and sisters and they talking about anybody quit their job. The hell you say?

Never there's a lie. A whole one. All right, Ocho, about to get out of here on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. ["Cutie Pie"] Leon Banks said, Ocho head so shiny, I want to palm it.

It is a little extra shiny. Now you just got it cut. No, I ain't getting cut. I just got out the shower, put a little moisturizer, put a little moisturizer on there real quick. You know, that's why I'm looking a little good tonight. That's it. You know. A little good?

Okay. Daph Smith said, wolves got good looks, especially from the corner three, but we're missing and the turnovers are too much Okay, see was nine or thirty three from the three and still won by fifteen this series is over Yeah, I just I don't see Minnesota winning. I really don't see them winning more than a game But hey, that's why they play We'll see what happens when they get home and get crowd get behind them and maybe they can turn the tide King go van I've been hating on okay see all season season but them boys are here and they're hungry. I also think New York match up better against OKC but they might not get past

the Pacers. True? Yeah I thought that them being so young that it could pose a problem for them for the Thunder. But they look good. They look good. I mean they went through Memphis, obviously, Joggo's down. They did what they're supposed to do, 4-0. They got the Nuggets, that was a tough series. They go through 7, they got through in 7.

But man, they look like, Minnesota like you're just overmatched. Oreo Hootlum said, you don't put bumper stickers on a Bentley. Tattoos. Yeah, you don't put no bumper stickers on no rose, no Bentley. Yeah. And that's cute, but they all like, tie. Kim and says what NFL franchise franchise has the greatest all time wide receiver room past present combined. I say Vikings, Vikings, they had Sammy white, they had all my Richard, uh, Chris Carter, ready malls.

That's the other one. Uh, Chris Carter, Randy Moss, Jeff Gordon, Pittsburgh has some good ones. Oh yeah, absolutely. Swann, Lewis Lips, Plex, Hines, Antonio Brown, Uh, The Bangles did too.

Yeah, for sure. Isaac Curtis. Isaac Curtis, yeah. Carl Pickens. Clif Pickens, yeah, downtown Freddie Brown. Mount Eddie Brown. Ocho, Chase Higgins. Chase Higgins, shit, Darnay Sky. Yeah.

P-Dub. And they had some good ones, boy. cowboys had bullet Bob Hayes they had a Drew Pearson Tony Hill Mike urban, there's there's CD Then I got pick That's a very good question. Very good Yeah, that's a good one Question, very good. Yeah, that's a good one.

Dr. Frank L. Bellarmine said, hey fam, I enjoy your interview with 2 Chainz on Club Shashe. I must ask, did you catch a little contact buzz and get the munchies? Yeah. Hey, he said, man, you buy my smoke. I said, bro, this your issue. This your car, this your who?

This your studio? Hey, you do what you wanna do. I'm good. Nah, this your issue. This your car. This your who this your studio this a you do what you want to do I'm good. Nah, but that food was good them turkey ribs Jordan baby I said bad I fool yours a bag. You got the border reals over there. Hey, the lamb chop is good The mashed potatoes swing it But you know you got a got to go. I mean I mean, when you go to a person, they, the wings. Yeah. And fry the candy land, which is vegan spot,

had a vegan pizza, salad. Oh, that, it was full of swinging. When I go, as a matter of fact, when I go back down there, Len, I'm gonna go to Esco. I gotta try that. It's nice, it's nice. It's nice. Chains, I appreciate that, man. I appreciate the hospitality man. It was great Allen Fletcher said start cut

Start bench cut Alabama wide receiver edition Jerry Judy Devante Smith Jalen water whatdle. When Devontae is starting, I'ma go Devontae, I'ma bench Judy, I'll cut Waddle. I'ma do it the opposite way. Symbiote cutting Judy from Miami. That's my home team. You ain't been to starting over Devontae Smith.

Why, because you won the Super Bowl? I just told you, I just explained why. That's my home team. You ain't finna start him over Devontae Smith. Why, cause he won the Super Bowl? I just told you, I just explained why. That's my home team. Listen to me. He taught the game winning touchdown Ocho ever. True freshman. I'm starting Jerry Judy cause he's from Miami. I don't care about no Super Bowl. I don't care if he went to Beach High School.

The hot guys. My home team is starting. Jerry Judy starting. I'm putting Devontae Smith on the bench and I'm cutting water. I don't care nothing about none of that. That's it. They had 1800 yard receiver, won the Heidman Trophy. That's cute. Won the Ballet de Carrefour war.

That's cute. Judy won the Ballet de Carrefour war too. Hey, it's hypothetical. So therefore, this is what I'm going with. There's nothing wrong with that. That concludes this episode of the Big Game. I'm your host, Jimmy. I'm your host, Jimmy.

I'm your host, Jimmy. I'm your host, Jimmy. I'm your host, Jimmy. I'm your host, Jimmy. I'm your host, Jimmy. I'm your host, is what I'm going with. Another roll with that. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Want to thank you guys for joining us again. The OKC Thunder take a two old lead 118 103 over the Minnesota Timberwolves. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button.

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