Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Shams predicts LeBron retirement? + Tyreek Hill Makes Up With Dolphins

Episode Date: May 30, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Shams Charania predicting LeBron James retirement, Tyreek Hill walking back his frustration with the Miami Dolphins, Joe Flacco talking about his unwillingness to be labeled a mentor to the young Cleveland Browns QBs, and much more!01:47 - Shams predicts LeBron’s next yr in the NBA will be his last09:30 - Flacco on mentoring rookies25:17 - Justin Fields34:14 - Tyreek Hill45:14 - Mahomes on Kelce50:00 - Julio Jones53:13 - Schottenheimer making changes to cadence57:00 - Q & Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Chomp is predicting that LeBron's next season in the NBA will be his last, which will be a poetic end to number 23. Year 23 for number 23. They have the All-Star weekend in Los Angeles, so to me, it's a very storybook if that's the way it goes. But that's a decision he's got to make. Rio, you just watched a man in year 22, make second team all NBA.

If he'd have made first team, I don't think anybody's mad if you put him in over Donovan Mitchell. Donovan got in, blessed. He averaged 24, eight and eight. He doesn't really have to do the heavy lifting anymore because of Luca. So he's, and AR is still there.

So now you put him in the dunker spot, you let him play off the ball, he's still gonna be in the 20 points. How long do you think LeBron wants to play? How long is he going to play? I'm always saying he's gonna play till Bryce got in the lead. So, Bryce goes to Arizona next year.

That'll be your 23, so in order for him to play with Bryce, he's gotta be 24. 24, 24, so I give him 24 or 25. Yeah. And if you get 24, you gotta might as well make it 25. I ain't worried about nobody getting 25. And if he gets 25, he might as well get 30. Nobody can hold up. Oh, shit. Because at 23, that'll be 41.

24, that'll be 42. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.

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I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I in the damn military. Right, exactly. So. It's not only to play that long, but to be. Dominant that long too. To play at that level. We have to be consistent and be one of the best. The average 24 points a game in year 22. There are some guys that didn't average 24 points for a career.

There are some guys that didn't, I mean, never had a season in which they averaged 24. This guy's a year 22 doing that. Right. When you look at it, look, been around the game, your dad coached the game, so you've been around basketball all your life. What do you think is the most impressive thing that you see that Will LeBron is doing? Is it the year 22? Is it the ability to go out there and still give you average 24 to go out there and give you a game where he can give you 30 average, you know, for a week, give

you 30 straight, go get you 40. What do you think is the most impressive thing at this juncture? We look all the 21 times first team all NBA 21 times all star win. So we get all that. But I'm talking about what you're witnessing now. What do you think the most impressive thing that you've seen him and you was with him for four years, you watched him every single day. Come in, get shots up, run cold tub massage. You saw it all real.

What do you think the most impressive thing that LeBron is doing currently? You saw it all real. What do you think the most impressive thing that LeBron is doing currently? I always said that the way he take care of his body The way he pay attention to his treatment and stay on schedule with that That attests to his longevity and never really being hurt or having a major injury So just the way his body is held up like his skill set is gonna be a skill set He puts the work in you see him putting the work in after games or after practices. He's always the last one shooting or someone getting up shots or working on different moves. So the way, what he puts into the game is when he gets out.

And also what he puts into his body is when he's getting out of his body. So to me, it's just the longevity of being that consistent of no injuries, no major injuries, bouncing back and still being healthy enough to do what you do every day. You was with him, LeBron got there, so you was there, you was with him 11, 12, 13, 14. Did you have, when you was there with him, did you have any idea that LeBron James would still be playing 12 years later? Um, no lie, I did. Just because like, I tell people this all the time, Bron would really get

treatment if he was in the club. Like he would literally have something on his knees or something on his back inside the club. So it's like, once somebody is doing that, like that's a real dedication to just be in the club with treatment. Ice, thank baking or whatever. Real, this bag got ice bags on his knees, he got ice bags on his back. The still. Like the still machine where it's like shooting electrolyte or electricity in knees and stuff like that.

Just hamstrings, like lower back. Like he always got something that's recovering. Making his body recover. That's the thing. once you see that, that's a different type of dedication. I'm not, I had to take my hat off to that one. Wow. Wow. All right, Rio, we're gonna get you out on this one. The Big Three Season Eight, tips off June 14th.

Live on CBS, Vice TV, and iHeartRadio. Your team, Miami 305, will face off against Nick Young and Dwight Howard's LA Riot for the first game of the season. Tickets are available now at the big3.com slash tickets. That's big3.com slash ticket. Who's on your squad? Hold on. You and Beasley? You and Beasley? You need Beasley? And Lance Stevens, right? Lance Stevens. Lance Stevens, Reggie Evans, and Sean Williams. Hey, but y'all don't need no extra body?

No extra legs or nothing? You know, we always use some extra bodies, but you know, I think we gotta pretty much take care of this year. You know, we hungry. We got something to prove, so. I don't know, Joe say, uh, the Detroit team, Joe and Pargo, they say, hey, man, you know Iso Joe, that's,'s he Taylor made for the big three yeah well he got to deal with the MVP that's what we got on our team so

Oh be easy yeah be easy hey y'all down in the crib y'all down here the crib now yeah yeah we got it right now I'm coming we do at we'll be at UM sometimes. We'll be up there today. It just depends what time the trainers get there, but we usually be at UM. Oh, shoot, I'm coming tomorrow. I'm coming that day. I'm going to have my chucks on. Y'all don't need nobody. Hey, Rio, man, thanks for joining us, man.

We really, really appreciate you taking time out of your schedule. We know you you busy. Got a lot going on, but to take time out to help us break down this game and talk about all things NBA, we greatly appreciate it. When you're not too busy, stop by again, man. Appreciate it, let me know.

All right, bro, best of luck this season. I appreciate it. Alrighty. Rio Chambers, hit one of the biggest shots in college basketball, Ocho, they were down to Memphis. He hit a three, sent the game in overtime. He was the final most outstanding player.

One of the big shots, you know, obviously, I forget the guy from Villanova, they hit the shot against the UNC, they actually won the game, but Real hit a shot, sent it to overtime, and they ended up winning it all overtime, gave Kansas and that Bill Self, I think Bill Self his first national title. Hmm, was it first? Nah, I don't think that was his first. What you call them gave him his first one.

When they beat UNC in the semifinals and they won, I don't know who they beat in the finals, finals and name what I don't know who they beat in the finals but I think self got like self got two or three because I know they beat they beat uh humor we Williams humor Williams the first humor Dave excuse me the first one remember Carolina had that big ol Lee Bill self had to so Joe Flacco had a long answer when asked about mentoring should during Dylan Gabriel it's a good question to bait somebody into answering, and no matter how they answer it, it kind of looks like the guy's answer didn't look bad. If I say, I don't want to be a mentor, I look bad. If I say, I don't want to, if I don't, if I say, I do want to mentor, then I look like

an idiot that doesn't care about being good at playing football. So one of those questions that no matter what I say, you guys can write what you want to write about it. And there's a lot of questions like that. That's why I end up having to try to avoid them. I tend to try to like be honest. And I've said, I'm not a mentor. I play football.

I have a lot of experience that I can talk on things and hopefully they listen. But it's not necessarily my job to make sure they listen to me. Hopefully you have a really good relationship with the guys that they're in the room and you naturally want to do that Oh Joe What are you making what Joe Flacco is saying? And that man is not gonna be no goddamn mentor man. These dudes behind me trying to take food off my plate They're trying to take money out my pocket. They here to take my goddamn job. What are we talking about? I mean, I don't know why we even asked that question. No, I'm not mentoring shit. I'm trying to

keep my job as long as I can. What are we talking about? I hate, I mean, let's be real. Let's be real. Oh, selfish ass photo. Yeah, I ain't about being selfish. Better stay in that fail, man. We here to make money. And you sitting behind me and me trying to mentor you, why the hell I'm gonna allow you to take food off my plate? That's what you here for, you here to take my child. That's what it is, this is the business.

I'm here to mentor you, you get your own shit together. We ain't in college no more. Ah, who you talking about? He's absolutely right. If you say, I don't wanna mentor. I mean, look, that's gotta be natural. It's just like you going on a job, Ocho. And some guy takes you under their wing and says, a young fellow,

hey, let me help you to the game. Let me tell you how I was able to stay here 25 years. Let me tell you how I was able to stay here 30 years. That's a choice that he or she makes. It says, you know what? I see something in this, I see something in this young man, this young woman that I want to partake in them and hopefully is beneficial. But you're absolutely right. They're under no obligation.

I was the opposite. Young guys come in. I'm going to try to, hey, make sure you study. I will quiz them, okay, this right here. You know, ask me a question. Why did I do, why did I run the route like this? Why did I do it like that? X, Y, and Z.

Oh, okay, I'm gonna ask you, okay, did you not see that safety down? The safety down told you the guy was coming. So why would he be down? If he's in coverage, why would he be down here like this unless somebody's covering and he got to cover you because he knows You're gonna be the heart receiver, right? So it's little things like that, but I agree with you 1000% Oh Joe, it's not it's not it's not someone job to mentor you

Because you know you get that a lot of job They bring bring somebody else in and you know teach him the ropes and you know teach him how to do this Yeah, that's different. This is the NFL the people sitting behind you that they're telling you to teach are there to take your job. I mean, you, you come on, man. This is a business. You make millions of dollars and you understand every time someone in draft and every time somebody's in the board in that room is to take your damn job.

Yep. So Joe Flacco is what? How tall is Joe now? Joe got to be damn near 40. Cause he's 16 seasons in the league. He had to come in. I don't think he came out early. Okay. So he had put it like this. He had at least 38, 39. I don't know if he's 40, but he's 38, 39 at least. Yeah. How old he is. Joe's trying to keep him job as long as he can.

Yeah. Cause he knows what it's like. Oh Joe, remember they came and got him off his couch. He ain't trying to go back there anytime soon. I would, what you have to understand is the faster he mentors, whoever needs to be, whether it's Dylan Gabriel, whether it's, uh, Shador is one more. Who's the other one? He turned 40, Ocho. He turned 40 in January. Hey, the faster he mentors them, the better, the better they're prepared to go and play.

Well, Jeff, Joe Flacco going home. Joe going home. He going back to the couch. I'm sure that's not what he wants. He wants to be in there as long as he can. And for me, anything I think Joe Flacco needs to start, the season, regardless of if there's a quarterback competition or not, Joe needs to play as long as he can until the number two or number 12,

I'm gonna say it like that, until number 12 is ready to go. That's it. I agree. It's hard for me to see a scenario in which Dylan Gabriel or Shador beats Flacco out and I like, okay, yeah, this is the direction that we're going in to start the season. I'm not sure he has a very long leash. I'm not saying they're gonna let him go eight, nine games and they only won one. Pickett might have something to

say about that. Like I said, I don't look. They got a lot of... First of all, you got a lot of quarterbacks in that room. You bring Flacco back. Yeah. Who's a 16, 17 year vet. You bring Kenny Pickett in from the Eagles who's four or five year bet. And you draft two quarterbacks. You're not keeping four quarterbacks on your roster.

Unless somebody goes to the practice squad. Well, hell, you might have two guys go to the practice squad. Cause most times teams don't have three quarterbacks dressed. Normally go into the game with two quarterbacks and you have an emergency quarterback that's normally a receiver.

And when you get that situation, you just handing the damn ball off. So I don't know me personally, I don't know what, I don't know what the, the, the Browns were thinking in that situation. You know what I'm saying? I know what they were thinking. Tell me what you think. What do you think?

We need a security blanket. Our security blanket and Joe Flacco. We've seen what Joe could do when Deshaun went down and Joe had to step in. We saw him have a six, seven game stretch where he played phenomenal. Now obviously we were able to do it consistently because we saw what happened when he took a nose dive statistically and they started losing. But hey, let's bring Joe in because he knows the offense. He knows the receivers.

Bingo. We're going to see what we can do with Joe until we get these young bulls ready. in because he knows the offense, he knows the receivers. Bingo. We're going to see what we can do with Joe until we get these young bulls ready. That's, that's as simple as it gets. Why bring Kenny Pickett back then? Well, I don't know, you know, Kenny Pickett, who's Kenny Pickett going to beat out? And I mean, no disrespect. We've already, we've seen a small sample size of what Kenny Pickett is doing when he was

with the Steelers. What are we talking about? It's, he's not, he's no threat. He's no threat to anybody over there. I mean, let's be realistic. Well, he's... And I don't mean that in a die-dry way. If he was who he was, he would still be restarting.

Excuse me, he was very, very early in Kenny's career. Great dude. I love him. I love him to death. But if you are who you thought you were, who we thought you were, you would still be in Pittsburgh. True. That's all. And I mean, no disrespect. I mean, I'm saying it in the best way I can.

But I... And that's my thing, Ocho. That's what I don't get. I don't know why you bring, you know, you bring two veterans in, you bring, you know, you bring two veterans in, you bring your draft, two rookies, obviously I don't believe the John is going to be able to play. I mean, he seems to think that he might be able to play or I don't know. I don't see that, but Hey, maybe he went to a great, um, orthopedic that would repaired it.

I don't know if he went to Eletrash. I don't know. He went to the guy out of New York, James Andrews. I don't it. I don't know if he went to Eletroche. I don't know. He went to the guy out of New York, James Andrews. I don't know. I don't know. Wachems, I don't know who he went to, but it's just hard for me to see Deshaun playing this year

when he tore that Achilles and he retored. That goes without saying. Now Joe Flacco, we know what Joe Flacco is. It's been a long time since Joe has started the season. 14. He's been a backup. Guys don't perform well. He comes in.

The question is, with what they have offensively, do you believe Joe can take them to the playoffs? Because right now they start the season, they're behind me, I would have them behind Cincinnati, I would have them behind Baltimore. Not sure I would have them in front of the, not sure I would have them in front of the stealer. Now we don't know who the stealer's quarterback is. Yeah, exactly. We don't know who the stealer's quarterback is. That is why I put the Browns in front of them

based on Flacco's resume in general. And then what we know he can do, he can bypass and steal some games based on experience alone. You got Yuli over there and Joku's over there. I'm not sure who's at the running back position. I'm not sure who the other receiver on the other side may be. But I think Joe's going to be fine. He's going to be fine until he's not. Until they feel they have to make a change.

And the fans will let you know what it's time to make a change. True, true. Man, that's a tough situation. That's a very tough situation. And then every day they posted the quarterback stats. Uh, Wednesday OTA the 28th, Joe Flacco had nine completions on 14 attempts. One touchdown, no interceptions, 64% completion.

Dylan Gabriel, he was 11 of 16, two touchdowns, one interception, 69%. Shadour was seven of nine, three touchdowns, no interceptions, 78%. And Kenny Pickett, with nine of 16, no touchdowns, no picks, 56%. Yeah, I'll take all those stats in practice with a grain of salt. You ain't got no shoulder pads, guys ain't rush. No shoulder pads, you got shorts on.

Guys ain't trying to run through no DBs and break the pass up. That don't mean nothing. Holler at me, holler, holler. Let me see how you look pre-season. When we're playing against somebody that don't know what's coming. When the Bullets are flying, it's live action.

You got pressure coming. You got eyes, you got hands in your face. You got three, you got two and a half, maybe three seconds. You got people trying to make a team, trying to make a squad, trying to make sure they don't get cut. Make it up you. Come on now.

Talk to me then. Let me know what them numbers look like then, when it actually count. This is how far we come, Ocho. This is what they do now. They chart stuff like this. And me, absolutely nothing. And you know, I hate some of the pages on Twitter. The Routes on Air.

Oh my goodness. Look at that beautiful deep ball. What? Nigga. Oh, my bad. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Ain't no pressure. No, of course. Beautiful. Yeah. Of course. It's a perfect pass.

Yeah. But that's where we are with you. Everything, everything get charted. Everything. I mean, they used to look, the teams always charted these stuff. They always kept with you know How many routes you ran how many times you won blah blah blah defense that they win how many? How many routes did he covered how many paths did he break up pick blah blah blah? But that's gonna be the teams have always kept stuff like this. That's how they evaluate it. Yeah. Yeah, but we don't normally have Publications Twitter whatever you know Yeah. But we don't normally have publications, Twitter, whatever, whoever, you know,

whether it's a YouTube or whomever that charts stuff like this and keep a tally of it. Means nothing. I mean, you're supposed to get up and on there. You're supposed to catch it on there. You're supposed to complete it on there. It's supposed to look perfect. Yeah. It's not supposed to catch it on air. You're supposed to complete it on air. It's supposed to look perfect. Yeah.

It's not supposed to look chaotic. So look, Shador knows what he's up against. He knows he's not a first three round pick. So there is no assurances that he's gonna be on the team. He understands that. I'm sure his dad has told him that. I'm sure his agent has told him. I don't know if it's his dad.

I don't know who his agent is, but I'm saying I'm sure they told him, made him aware. There are no guarantees. The Browns probably have made, well, the mere fact where you was drafted lets you know there are no guarantees. Come on now. But if Shador is what he believes he is, I don't see the problem.

So Joe Flacco, Dylan Gabor, Shador Sanders, Kenny Pickett, all fighting for, I believe, two spots. Two spots and the other guys gonna probably be... Practice squad. Practice squad. I mean, like you said, OTA is going to tell me ish. I'm going to see some preseason. Now, I don't think that probably Joe Flacco is going to play in the preseason. So that means Dylan Gabor, Shador, and Kenny Pickett is going to get all the snaps in preseason. Yep, all of it. I mean, listen, Flacco might get a series, if that. If that. I get, I agree, I agree, I agree.

But these other guys, oh, y'all playin'. And playin' lots. A lot. ["Dreams of a New World"] Despite an uneven start to his career, Jeb's quarterback Justin Fields believes he's on the cusp of a breakout season. He thinks it's the right team, the right time, and the right scheme.

I think I can be great. That's been the goal of my whole life, my whole career. I think the sky's the limit for this team, for this offense, but we have a long way to go. Our offense and defense are new, so guys are really tuned in, locked in, trying to get everything down. But I think once we do, I think the sky's the limit. I mean, we have all the guys we need, we have all the talent, so it's really just going

to come down to discipline and execution. And listen, everybody has all the talent. It's always come down to discipline and execution, but also come down to the coaches. You know, it's nothing but a chess match. I always say this all the time when it comes to playing the game of football. Understanding your strengths and understanding your players weaknesses. Putting your players in the right places to make the plays. Understanding who they're playing against. Understanding what their weaknesses are and putting them in the best position to make plays against said individual players that also get paid millions of dollars. That's what it all comes down to.

Having an officer coordinator or defensive coordinator that doesn't have a, um, uh, an ego, an ego. Well, this is my system and I want you to run my system my way, despite whether you can do what I like called well or not. That's what it all, there's so many different variables that come into it. Justin Fields is supposed to feel that way. He's supposed to feel like this is the great system, great scheme, great whatever it is. But everybody looks good in shorts and shirts.

We all do. And as a different game, we talk about the Jets, we know what happened when the goddamn lights come on, Sunday at one o'clock. It's always been a different story. Now for Justin, for his sake, this is the make or break year for him. I believe it. You have a stellar, you have a phenomenal season this year. You get you a nice big payday, boy.

Which you are deserving of. You know, now you're getting a fair shot. You're getting another fair shot, you know. Obviously, Chicago didn't go so well. Now you have it for a star. Most of the time, sometimes, quarterbacks aren't given a second chance. Like you being a four. Now you got to make the most of it.

Get that ball to number five. I'll tell you that. You definitely, uh, you're going to be all right. It definitely, uh, I agree with you, Ocho. I think this is a year that he's going to have to, you know, I agree with you, Ocho. I think this is a year that he's gonna have to, you know... Chicago, he's like, look man, what he had, offensive coordinator didn't do much. They didn't put him in the right situation. They didn't protect him well enough. XYZ. Goes to Pittsburgh. I thought he played well. I was surprised when Mike Tomlin made the move

and inserted Russ after Russ had missed the games with a calf injury. But hey, it is what it is. Thought he had some nice talent around him. Pickens, he had some guys that could make plays around him. Fryermuth, they ran the ball okay with Nigel Harrison, Jalen Warren. But now, new coach, what seems to be a competent offensive coordinator, decent offensive line and weapons around him. They've tried to remove the hedge, which is the excuse that you would have if things don't go well.

Yeah. So... I'm rooting for the young man. Um... Third team Ocho in three years. Situation matters. Well, you can't go to five, 10 situations and say, well, that situation wasn't right for me, that situation wasn't right for me, that situation

wasn't right for me, Ocho. At some point in time, you got to accept a responsibility. And you got to look at that mirror. Michael Jackson said you got to start with the man in the mirror Yeah, but I do believe AG had a great group of guys offensive coordinator quarterback coach Surrounded him with the talent now. It's just time for him to let his God-given ability go out there and take over don't overthink it Prepare be prep be ready to go know what you're supposed to go know where you're supposed to go with the ball go with it Yeah Don't be afraid to use your leg, you know, sometimes people like well, I'm gonna show I can throw the ball. Okay

What makes what makes these guys dangerous is their legs nobody's not fearing their arm No, I don't want you to run. I don't I don't want you to escape because I know I know what type of speed you got I know you can hit your head on the goalpost. So he's played well. Last 12 stars he has an 8-40 record, Ocho 17 passing and rushing touchdowns, only seven interceptions. Like I said, we talked about it last year. I was surprised that they made the change because I thought he played well. Could have won the game and, uh, uh, and ended. They lost that game. Fields will make his debut with the Jets September 7th against the Steelers.

The team that traded for him last year then benched him in favor of Russell Wilson after a four and two start. Fields offered no insight into the matchup. Oh, that's what we played week one? Really? It really wasn't a thought. Any extra motivation? No. catch up. Oh, that's what we played week one. Really. It really wasn't a thought. Any extra motivation? No. Nah, play ball. Just play ball. No, no, no motivation needed. No motivation already be there regardless. I don't care what happened in the past. I don't care what happened in the past. They wanted him back, but he's like, nah, after the way y'all did me, had I been playing

back, had I been 0-6, had I been 2-4, I can understand you going in a different direction. But I was two games over 500. And I don't think maybe I'm trying to think what was that game that Russ and them came back and they won? I would have to look back. I can't remember off the top of my head, but I don't think the Steelers won any games that they probably wouldn't have won

if Russ wasn't in there. Yeah, but you also have to understand, Mike Tomlin gave his word to Russ. Mike Tomlin gave his word to Russ, so he had to stick by his word, because I think everyone, including Russ Wilson, would have been looking at Tomlin funny after already voicing who was going to be the starter publicly to everybody.

So whenever Russell was helping- Situations change, Ocho. You can't go back on that. Can't go back on that. Ocho. As a coach, everybody's gonna be looking at him funny. That's all right, look at me funny. I mean, look, I like, look look at Ocho, I like sweets,

but if the doctor told me I got diabetes, I can't be eating those sweets, right? He said, Sheldon, you got high blood pressure. I can't be eating no pork, I gotta change things. You go six and O, you five and one, you four and two, Ocho's like, hey Russ, I know what I said. But, so if that's the case,

when they lost four games at the end of the season, why didn't they go back to Justin Fields then? So if that's the case, when they lost four games at the end of the season, why did they go back to Justin Fields then? Because you did him like that. Hey, all the coach, all the man has is his word on. Man, that don't work, that's not working in coaching. You know you go with the hot man. Whoa, whoa.

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Because here, this is what I look at it, don't you? Oh, wait a minute, wait, wait, wait a minute. The hand stayed hot now for what? Three, four games in a row now. Who that? The hand, the hand, the hand stayed hot. Justin Fields was four and two, wasn't you?

You didn't hear what I just said. Yeah. Even when he made the change, the hand still stayed hot. Yes. Three or four games in a row. Right. And then, you know, toward the end. But you shouldn't have changed

because my hand was hot. You tried to pour water on me to cool my hand off. Yeah. I got cool standing on the sideline. Listen, all I know is Mike Tomlin had a state and kept promise to his word that he said before the season started, Russ was our starter, so whenever he was healthy he would get back in the lineup as said starter, like I said before the season started. That's one thing I can honestly say I loved about Mike, but Mike Shanahan.

Mike Shanahan said, look here, you might be the starter. But if that guy comes in and he's playing better than you, then when you were starting, he's the starter. Hey, who's the quarterback that was in Denver, right? Had the big old beard. That's about it. The beard was huge sticking up out the helmet like Fitzpatrick. It wasn't Fitzpatrick.

Oh, Kyle Lorton. It was Kyle Lorton? He could sling that ball. The man had the big old lumberjack beard. I think he was throwing the... Brandon Lloyd. Brandon Lloyd. That's who had some hands.

People talk about everybody else they be mentioning got hands. People don't realize how good a hands that Joker had. Man, V. Lloyd was catching all the acrobatic catches, boy. Go back, I mean before the technology and the tactified gloves, he was doing that with there was no tact. Yeah, yeah, it was show one It's show. Go back and look at Brandon Lloyd when he was with the Broncos and with the 49ers 49ers. Yeah, he was uh B-lord was nice with it Tyreek Hill spoke with local media for the first time since suggesting a trade request after Miami's season ending loss to the Jets in January, making himself unavailable in the second half. He walked his comments back this week and publicly apologized for them.

It was tough, man. Obviously, emotions were high then, but at the end of the day, I'm just looking to move forward from that, hoping that I can prove myself and prove to my teammates that I'm still one of them ones, man who's chasing 2K receiving yards. Still, one of those ones chasing a playoff dream and all that great stuff. I've got to prove to myself I got to show up different. The mindset's got to be different.

He said he attended church and therapy over the past month, and he says it's helped him reflect on his decision making, namely why it's been so difficult for him to stay out of the headlines that aren't football related. It's helped him reflect on his decision-making namely why it's been so difficult for him to stay out of the headlines that aren't Football related is tough. The only thing I'm gonna say man is money is crazy thing for a lot of people Agree, I Love what he said and I said this old Joe you can't take yourself out of that game He got that catharsis on his shirt. That's that outro that carry a lot of weight.

Yeah. That carries a lot of weight. Yeah. And for him, and they're asking me, are you hurt? If he was hurt, I ain't got no problem with it. I don't, I don't. Me, I'm gonna try to cut gut it up as long as I possibly can.

And when I can't go, I can't go. But to just take yourself out of the game because you're not catching any passes or the ball's not being thrown to you. And some of the stuff that he said, look, and when the motion is high, I get it. When a motion is high, logic is low. Logic is low, yeah.

And sometimes we let our emotions get the best of us. And we say things and we do things that we wish we can take back. But I love a man that's reflective. I love a man that can stand there and say, you know, I was wrong. And I'm going to try to be, I'm not only going to try to be a better football player, but I'm going to try to be a better man. And he's right. Money, money, boy, look here. Money changes. Not only can money change you, it can change the way people see you,

the way they view you, how they treat you, how they behave around you. Yeah. So, I would be thinking that, because I've always liked Tyree. Here's a guy, Ocho, that had immense speed and we know the man's name Cheetah, so we know he can run.

But Ocho, he taught himself to run the routes. He wasn't just a gadget guy. They run into him some jet sweeps, you know, the punt, kickoff, return, Ocho. They just did, but all of a sudden he start running the smoke. He can run the speed, I can run the comeback, he can run the dig, he can run the over, he can run the slant.

Now, a guy with that kind of speed that can close that cushion, he turned himself into a Hall of Famer. Yeah. Yeah. He gonna be all right. Yes. He has to be.

He has to be. He has to be. He needs to be in the... He understands, Ocho. He... You want a new... You want a contract extension. Well, I gotta pay you on what I believe you can be moving forward, not on what you've done. I know about that 1800, 1900 yard season that you had. Unbelievable. You were sensational.

I paid you for that. Made you one of the highest paid receivers in football. You were the highest paid until all these other guys started getting their contract. Now, if I were to extend you or give you a new contract, Ocho, I got to base it on what do I think Tyreek Hill? Am I going to be able to count on Tyree Hill? Next two three years cuz that's what I got to pay. That's what I'm paying him for And you see where the the wide receiver money is going Ocho

Hey, that thing is north of 35 chases in the 40s Yeah, listen, but I love a man that can say, you know, hey, it's me. Yeah, you're gonna be all right. We all get wake up calls. We do all get wake calls in different forms. Sometimes some of them. Sometimes God they got to shake you real hard. Yeah, get your attention.

No, no, no, no, when you shake you real hard, he wants your undivided attention. Because sometimes you do something, you just pause like, oh, OK, I heard you. Yeah. Hey, he right. He right. Because there's something that some things that can happen, they can sit you down real quick.

Yes. And hit home. And hit home. He's focused, going to therapy. And the fact that he has to prove himself, the fact that he even feels he has to prove himself, is to me, man, well, you know who you are. We know what you can do. We know why your numbers weren't where they were last year. But anyway, but having to prove yourself again, if your quarterback can stay upright and healthy.

But you know what, Ocho, if you think about it. But I'm in the 1800, 1900 yard season. But think about it, how did the season start? Controversy and it ended the same way. You see, remember how we say, Ocho, you limp until the season, you limp out of it. Yeah, you're right. You come in, you come in, the bull jive,

bull jive following you out of it. Yeah. So like I said, he learned, he going through a lot. He got a lot of stuff going on off the field. That's not football related. Maybe that was weighing on his mind. Oh, chill, people don't understand, man. Sometimes, boy, you have stuff going on

and you have to be able to compartmentalize. And some people compartmentalize better than others. Some people can stay total focused. When I'm on this football field, the most important thing is this football. Me catching it, me intercepting it, me sacking the quarterback or whatever, running the football, whatever the case may be. And then once I'm off this football field, I got to deal with day to day of life. Yeah.

Family, friends, loved ones, kids. And you know what? That's, that's why I like, that's why I love when I was playing. Obviously I didn't have many issues off the field until obviously on the back end. But I'm saying during that early time, that first decade, you know, I ain't had no issues. You did not. But what I was able to do, if I did have anything lingering, which was very, very, very small, I knew once I walked in that locker room,

oh man, that's my safe space. That's my heaven. Going to practice, going to meetings, I ain't had to worry about nothing. So life, everything was at ease once I entered that stadium. Once I touched that grass, once I could smell that grass. I was at peace. Now I understood once we got out of meetings and we watched film after practice, okay now back to reality.

Because nobody cares. Coach O, they're like, I'm glad it's him, not me. I don't care he got them. Right. So at the end of the day, a lot of the problems, if they're not family oriented, I mean, your family, they really don't want to care. Bro, you playing football, you making $30 million a year, you making X amount of money. I wish I made that kind of money because people think money solves everything. It don't. It don't. It don't. Because I promise you there's disappointment, there's heartbreak that even no amount of money can absolve you from that

can, that can shield you from. And so, you know, look, Tyreek is human and all humans have emotions. Now it takes different stimuli to trigger emotions. But the right stimulus will trigger, they will elicit sadness, disappointment, joy, heartbreak, just the way we are. We are who we are, even the toughest. So I hope, I really do. Because I thought, I mean,. So, uh, I, I, I hope I really do. Cause I thought, I mean, look, he was, he, I still believe he's a hall of famer, but I want to see him bounce back because I think he's one of the most talented receivers that ever played a game.

He's special. Uh, I'm glad he's not six foot tall. Can you imagine him six foot tall with that speed? Would his mindset, Ocho? Right. If he was six feet tall with that speed with his mindset? If he was six feet tall, he wouldn't be able to do the things he's doing now at the height of the year. Well, hell, look at Randy Moss. God made Randy Moss six forward gave him that speed. Randy Moss couldn't run roughs. He ran, he got 153 touchdowns. He did something. I don't know what he did. A lot. He caught a lot of jump balls and he got a lot of go balls.

Um, but no, I mean, Randy wasn't trying to run those speed outs. He wasn't trying to, I mean, he run the hook, he run the smoke route catchment with guy like Randy put the ball in his hands. All that other stuff. He looked at it, put the ball in his hands. I'm gonna make you make a decision. How are you going to get him on the ground? Cause I got in the ball.

Hey, I'm gonna make you make a decision. How you gonna get him on the ground? Cause I got him the ball. Hey, man, every time I think about seeing Randy off, the DB off, normally, you know, the DB seven yards, three step, read the quarterback. After three step, get your ass back on the receiver. Man, Randy, the dude is seven yards off. Randy take three steps he done closed the cushion and threw his hand up. Hey the DB still in his damn back pedal. Man what the fuck are you doing? Hey and then you know the fade was coming on the on the goal line inside the five. You know the fade coming. And it was nothing you could do. Yeah. Nothing you could do.

But, but, Tyree could get it figured out. Yeah. He could get it figured out. Patrick Mahone says, Travis Kelsey doesn't seem like the player, seem like a player on his last ride.

If it's his last ride, you would never know the way he's talking about football, the way he's talking about working, trying to be even better than last. He was last year. It doesn't seem like a guy that's on his last ride or he's tired of the job. He's in here. He's working. I know his body feels good. I think he feels better than even last year before going into last season, just

because he's motivated to have an even better year. Yeah. I think, look, new relationship, Ocho, new relationship. He's out, I'm gonna support my lady. And I think the thing, I think he deep down, and so he knows he didn't put it. He didn't put the time in that he needed to, he didn't put that work in, putting that work in now.

Look like he, I guess he looked like it's about his change. He's lost some weight. Uh, I mean, you have to realize they're comparing Trav to a younger Trav. They're not comparing to Laporta and all these other guys. They're comparing to his younger self and what they saw him do. We used to him being the premier tight end in all football. There's no question. Who best out Travis Kelsey?

Yeah. Now you got other guys. Now you got Laporta said, Hey, what about me? You got McBride in Arizona saying, what about me? You got Bowers in Oakland. What about me? I mean, excuse me, Las Vegas. What about me? You got Bowers in Oakland. What about me? I mean, excuse me, Las Vegas. What about me?

Yeah. Kittle. So you got other guys that are like, hold on. Well, it's not a foregone conclusion anymore. Now Travis is like, Hey, I want to stay attached to that, that, that best tight end conversation. And, uh, it humble you man. Yeah.

Yeah. You gotta put that work in. But also, there's one thing putting in the work, but also he ain't gonna need help as well. Well, I think Rasheed Rice being back, you saw Worthy, you see him get better and better and better. Now, if Trav comes back, 85% of what he was, 90% of what he was at his absolute best, you got Hollywood Brown back.

Mm-hmm. Um, the question is, Ocho. That's nice offense. The offensive line, what are they going to look like? Which offensive line are they going to look like? Mm-hmm. Which office line I look like? You know, they drafted offensive tackle out of Ohio State the first round to be a left tackle. You got Trey Smith, you got Humphrey, you got one of the best centers in football, one

of the best right guards in football, but they were lacking at the other position and they should, it rare toities ahead in the Super Bowl. I did. But I'm glad Travis is putting that time in, you know. But at this point in time, Ocho, you know, you don't, I mean, sometimes you know, but at the end of the day, you take it one year at a time now. He done got past 10, it's one at a time.

It ain't no more. Bad, that got me five more. I'm taking year at a time now. If I got past 10, it's one at a time. It ain't no more. Bad, I got me five more. Mm-mm. I'm taking one at a time. If I get five, woo, thank you Jesus. If I get one, if I get two, hell, I got two more than the original number that I set for myself.

Right. At that point, you just pray for, you pray you get in the extra years. Yeah, because I mean, I wanted five. I was like, man, if I could just get, if pray you get in the extra years Yeah Cuz I mean I wanted five I was like man if I just get if I give me one once I got the one I was like man if I get the five on show whoo five years once I got the five I was like a ten to go I gotta get me. Let me get a tear Once I got a tear. Okay, let me try to get level. Let me try to get will

I'm trying to steal the year after year. Yeah, I sure wanted to steal me one. I don't think I was able to steal one, but I was going to steal me one. I don't know if it's going to be 15 or 16, but I was going to steal one year. They're like, damn, Sharp sure don't look the same. I'm not, but them shades the same. I'm not, I'm not, nope, nope. Sharp can steal a run, but Sharp just can't get over

like he was, Sharp ain't got the wiggle like he was had. Hmm. ["Ride of the Valkyries"] Julio Jones says he's not rewatched his Super Bowl 51 loss to the Patriots. I had four opportunities the whole game. That's insane, that's ridiculous. Four targets in the Super Bowl 51 loss to the Patriots. I had four opportunities the whole game. That's insane. That's ridiculous four targets in the Super Bowl He also Julio got to understand your plan wouldn't be a Belichick do best

Take away a team's best officer weapon. It's what he's trying to do. He's that's what he always he's always is done regards to we line up Always he's always is done regards to we line up Regards to we line up the defensive play call is a is made based on we line up So he's gonna boom no one he taking that out. Yeah Take he out. So I mean who do I mean sure who understands that now and anybody that's gonna play up against a bill Belichick defense understands that as well. Hell when I knew I was playing against the Patriots, I Didn't get I didn't get my hopes up cause I already knew what time it was. I already knew who's just going to eat. Whoever the third receiver was, they're going to eat.

You just understand that going to those games. I just didn't get when they got that lead, why they wouldn't run the football. But people say, well, you do what you did when you got to what got you there, but you got to be smart. You got to be smart, Ocho. Yeah. And, and, and, and got you there. But you gotta be smart. You gotta be smart, Ocho. And Kyle wasn't smart. And it falls on DQ too, because he's the head coach. All right, run it.

Hey, don't be afraid to run it here. Just to keep throwing the ball, stopping the clock. Why? Yeah, they're not getting over that and plus rewatching it does not change the outcome you probably don't want to you probably don't want to really hear that oh no when I really that don't want to rehash it then you watching it you only have four targets I mean you there's really nothing to see you had a great catch in the sidelines though. They're phenomenal catch I'm sure you've seen that replay over and over and over but losing the game like that being up 23 and still losing

I mean nobody wants to rehash or be there. Cuz Ocho but at that point when Julio made that spectacular catch there in field goal range. Yeah. Run the ball. Why would you throw it? Why? Run the ball, kick the field goal, walk it off. Yeah. Hey, why did Russell Wilson not change the play call to goddamn run play. And run, I'm betting on Marshall and Lynch. Okay, they stopped him the first time. I'm betting. Make them stop him again. Make them stop him again.

I'm betting. You're gonna have to show me. For sure. I ain't putting the ball in there. And if I can't get it in, I don't deserve to win the ball game. But if you, if you go back and think about it, Ocho, they emptied the backfield. So it's so mouse on is not even a threat to run the football.

Yeah. At least you got to have him back there. So he's a threat and give them something to think about. Yes. Yes. having back there so he's a threat. And give them something to think about. Yes, yes. Coach Brian Schottenheimer said they are making changes to the cadence. Sounds like there'll be no more. Here we go.

There it went. They changed it? Hey, that was dope, man. But outside of the defense being able to time it, I mean, that would be the only... Oh, man. Uh, no. Here we go.

I mean, I think that would be the only issue. No, just say, said hut. Everybody's trying to, to do certain things. You just can't. It's like, you know what? Oh Joe, everybody's trying to get, everybody's trying to get like a recording contract or a new recording contract singing the national anthem. It's the national anthem.

Sing it and sit your ass down. Everybody want to go up there and try to sing, draw it out two or three, two minutes, three minutes. Come on. If you sing on that for the most part, if you sing a national anthem, you probably already got a contract. Especially if it's a big, a big, you know, big event, you know, Super Bowl, uh, all star game world series and playoffs, yada, yada, yada.

Come on now. Everybody try to dress it up, the K-dans. Blue 19, Blue 19 said, hup! Or you were audible, we had Blue 59 Razor, Blue 59 Razor. But they doing too much But they doing too much. They doing too much. Well, I couldn't even hit it.

Hey, I couldn't even hit it, damn, Kaden. I just watched the ball. I had to hit it, Kaden, because there's some times that I would be a guy and I had to run, I had to run the adjust round. I had to run the seven round. Right. So I needed to, I needed to hit it.

But for the most part, like when I'm in without the tight end now, obviously, you know, they changed the play and I already knew I was hot. So I'm just, I'm seeing what, what they got Josh around. Okay. They brought two to my side. They brought one to my side. TD's in TD's figured them out. They got to bring two to make me hot.

Hey, they bring something backside that doesn't that doesn't impact me, right? But there are some times we go into a game that ain't if you get a peak They break they might break. They might only bring one one side But if they bring the guy backside just if you see him coming just just turn around It's ever you give him a look but except you give him a look. But... Ocho, a fan records himself running on the field during the Yankees-Angels game.

Ocho, you said you wanted to try everything what? The chance wants to know when you're gonna try to run on the field during the game. Wait, he ran on... There you are right there. Did they catch him? Yeah, yeah they caught him. Did they catch him? Yeah, yeah they caught him.

Hey, you know what's funny? What? What's taking security so long to get to him? Man, oh, Joe, you make it seem like the security guards at one point in time are a football player to attract athletes. You've seen them? Oh, he got away.

They caught him. They got him, see? Oh. Hey. Hey, listen, I'm not going bare security like that, man. Cause you know, it good and well, they not catching me. Let's start there. The fact that I'm still active, still running,

still playing soccer at a very, very good level, not elite level, but at a very, very good level. And it would, no, and I don't want to make headlines for the wrong reason. If I'm making any headline, it's going to be for something good. Okay. All right. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A. Mark Monroe said, from Seattle, we shall be returning to the NBA soon. For now, we'll just keep innovating the world for you all. Yes, Mark, it's been reported that Seattle and

Las Vegas are the two favorite to get the new two teams. For now, we'll just keep innovating the world for you all. Yes, Mark, it's been reported that Seattle and Las Vegas are the two favorite to get the new two teams. And they're looking around $6 billion for that. Woof, woof. I'm sure the 30 other owners are like, yeah, Seattle, y'all got it? Vegas, y'all got it? Mark, again, thank you for your donation.

And yeah, Seattle, I mean, yeah. We, Seattle was a good base. Seattle was, Seattle, I remember the Super Sonics when, when they had the Rain Man, Sean Kemp, and they had Gary Payton. Deadly Shrimp was up there for a while, Jack Sigma. I remember when they won the championship with Gus Johnson, they called him the Wizard, Dennis Johnson.

They had really good teams. Had some really, really, really good teams. Mark, are you going to be a season ticket holder? As a matter of fact, I went to a Superstar's game when I visited a Seahawks, out of the free agent in 2002. I went to a game, they took me to a game. I'm trying to think, I think Ray Allen was still there. Was Ray Allen still there in 2002? I want to say he was.

I say he was. Who's on the team in 2002, Rashard Lewis? It was, yeah, it was like in March. Who's on the team then? Was GP on the team? He had to be. Or was we the Lakers? Nah. Okay.

Was anybody else on the team good? Oh, yeah. Wow. Yeah. I don't know. Y'all were so long ago. I don't, like I said, I don't know. Yeah, it was so long ago. I don't like I said, I don't even really remember. I don't even know they want to loss. Tyron said, What's up Uncle Nocho? Is Tyrese Halliburton a superstar? No, I say he's a star, but not a superstar. In my opinion, but you know people. Fizz New Jersey ain't no casual by antique to see no Halliburton. True.

D underscore Rob, it's obvious. Nap time showed New York grace. Better to enjoy the victory at home via fight through a riot at the Mecca afterwards. Million saved. Just make sure you take care of business at home. James Revalo. Revalo, Yonis to the Lakers.

I'm sure they can bring in a third Dallas as a team to do something stupid and get across the finish line. Robert Vasquez, hey, uh, either my boy, he's been to pay you off soon as it happens. 5200 pocket change for at least something on the watch. You're gonna have to write now. Love the show. It's 5,900 right now, and it's going up $2 a day.

Two bucks a day. Oh, yeah. What, in this economy? Yeah, I need my money in this economy. I'm in this economy too. Think about how long you owe me, Ocho. I know, but think about all the things I had to go through since I owed you. You and me both.

Sir Kate, sir underscore Kate, my guys, two question. If Kyle Pierce has another lackluster season, what's his future looking like with the Falcons that should Trey Henderson play? Sit out or ask for a trade. If the Bengals don't play him, pay him what he's earned. No, and if he has another lackluster season, I don't think they picked up the 50 option on Kyle Pitts,

trying to make him motivated. Yeah, if he has another lackluster season, he will not be in Atlanta after this season. That being said, Trey Henderson, it's hard to see. I think he plays, but not before he sets out the first half to get that accredited season. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah. He died. You know what? I don't know what he's gonna do, but I know one thing when it comes to business. If you see us about your money, if they know you love the game of football, they will play with you.

They sure will. They will play with you because they know you love it. They know you can't stay away from it. So in order for you to get your money, if you're really serious about business, you're gonna have to put that love for the game aside. You do. And really show you. They use that against you all the time, Ocho. I know. Yeah. Oh, oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. They're gonna bet against you your time. Oh Joe. I know. Yeah. Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely Absolutely. They gonna bet against you every time Elvin Elvin didn't milk milking milking Oh Joe, you need to come see you need to come to Cincinnati to watch your guy. Kai Kamara at FCC wearing 85 for you

Oh, yeah, that's my guy kind of guy my guy, man. He just signed the FC Cincinnati. I gotta get out to a game. I gotta get out to a game very soon, very soon. I'll be out there. Leota Rose, shout out Nightcap Mobs, Ash Unkenochow, did you see the OKC win coming and what do you think is next? I think they're gonna be favored

over whomever they face in the NBA finals. Um, I don't know. I think they put a graphic up on the screen that they split. Okay. See, and, uh, Indiana, I think they both won two games this season. I think they split this season. So it'd be interesting, but I think, I think, okay. See, he's going to be favored.

Uh, they look like the best team, uh like the best team in the playoffs this year. Uh, they went seven games with Denver, blew that game wide open. Um, this series wasn't merely much of a series they won going away. And if they were to win the series, I mean, right now they've got the largest margin of victory of anybody that's been in the playoffs. They're winning by like 13 14 points a game So they're gonna be favorite D chat uncle. No chill. Love the show. Thanks for bringing great content on a nightly basis guys Can you give a shot shout out to my son Jameer and his good friend JJ?

These two guys will be graduating from high school tomorrow Dooball We absolutely can. Jameer and JJ, congratulations. Graduating high school. The end of one journey, start of another one. Congratulations, guys, of all the hard work that you guys have put in. And DChat, thank you guys for your, thank you for your support. And congratulations, Jameer and JJ.

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The link is pinned in the chat supplies are limited And once they're gone, they're gone. And so please grab yours while supplies last the Knicks stay alive force game 6 111 to 94 over the Indiana Pacers at home. They returned on Saturday to Indiana Jalen Brunson was sensational 12 12 of 18, four seven from three, perfect from the free throw line, 32 points. Cat, 24 and 11. You got 11 from OG, 12 from McHale Bridges. And Josh Hart chipped in off the bench

with 12 points and 10 rebounds. And they win 111 to air 94 to force a game six back in Indiana. I'm up, he's Ocho. We're back Saturday, right? We're back Saturday. Will Indiana close it out and face OKC? Or can the New York Knicks force a game seven?

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