Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Shedeur Sanders visits the Steelers; Belichick regrets NOT drafting Lamar Jackson.
Episode Date: April 15, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top NFL stories of the week, including Shedeur Sanders’s visit with the Steelers before the NFL Draft, Bill Belichick admitting ...regrets about skipping drafting Lamar Jackson in the NFL Draft, & much more!04:16 - Shedeur Sanders visits with Steelers15:40 - Belichick admits skipping Lamar Jackson in the draft34:00 - Kyler Murray wants to run the ball more(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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                                         Shador Sanders met with the Pittsburgh Steelers today and was impressed by the visit.
                                         
                                         He even said Mike Tomlin reminds him of his father, Coach Sanders.
                                         
                                         The Steelers was great. I understand why they win so much. Why Mike Tomlin is the way he is.
                                         
                                         He resembles my dad a little bit.
                                         
                                         They have the same principles.
                                         
                                         Chador reportedly does not want to be taken
                                         
                                         top three per NBC.
                                         
    
                                         I believe ideally he would like to go to New Orleans.
                                         
                                         I believe that's where he would really like to go.
                                         
                                         Of all places, New Orleans?
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         Can you explain why he would want to go to New Orleans?
                                         
                                         Just curious.
                                         
                                         You look at the receiver court they got.
                                         
                                         Chris Olave.
                                         
    
                                         Chris Olave.
                                         
                                         22, what's the name?
                                         
                                         What's the name? The speed?
                                         
                                         Rashid? No.
                                         
                                         Yeah, Rashid. Yes.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         I get it right?
                                         
    
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Hey, that young bull can run, boy. You hear me? Yep. Yeah, he. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Hey, that young boy can run.
                                         
                                         Boy, you hear me? Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah, he can run.
                                         
                                         Jawan Johnson.
                                         
                                         I think I think that's the tight end.
                                         
                                         Alvin Kamara is still there.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, that's nice.
                                         
                                         That's nice.
                                         
                                         Okay, now you're cooking.
                                         
                                         Now you're making sense.
                                         
                                         You're making sense to me.
                                         
                                         I just I don't he's not going to be there.
                                         
                                         What the Saints pick what?
                                         
                                         Nine.
                                         
    
                                         He ain't finna be, he's not gonna be there at nine.
                                         
                                         But here's the thing.
                                         
                                         He's not gonna be there at nine.
                                         
                                         Once he gets past the top three,
                                         
                                         Ocho, nobody needs a quarterback.
                                         
                                         He's not getting a,
                                         
                                         He's not getting past the top three.
                                         
                                         Ocho, Jacksonville not gonna take a quarterback.
                                         
    
                                         New England's not gonna take a quarterback. Um,
                                         
                                         New England quarterback, the Giants need a quarterback. Tennessee take a camp board. Tennessee has canceled should they cancel should door. They track
                                         
                                         canceled Travis Hunter. What does that tell you? They canceled the visit. They
                                         
                                         reached out to the agency. We're gonna respectfully decline. Hopefully you guys
                                         
                                         understand. What does that tell you? Who are they taking? They're taking Cam Ward.
                                         
                                         And what happens if they pull a belly flop
                                         
                                         and then take Abdul Carter?
                                         
                                         You know, listen, you know how the NFL works.
                                         
    
                                         They had you thinking one thing and they do another.
                                         
                                         Let me ask you a question.
                                         
                                         Does Cam Ward, does Abdul Carter make them better right now?
                                         
                                         Or does a quarterback makes them?
                                         
                                         Remember, we just talked about what do you need in that division?
                                         
                                         quarterback? Yeah, absolutely.
                                         
                                         Lawrence Stroud, you said you believe Anthony Richardson is going to be better.
                                         
                                         OK, you're right. You're right.
                                         
    
                                         But listen, you know what I look at?
                                         
                                         And I look at Abdul Carter and I see him
                                         
                                         similar to that of a Vaughn Miller,
                                         
                                         similar to that of a Micah Parsons.
                                         
                                         Being able to change and impact the game tremendously,
                                         
                                         a play right now type of player.
                                         
                                         That's a good one.
                                         
                                         Because I'm not talking about just know any type of player.
                                         
    
                                         I see Abdul Carter as a transcending talent,
                                         
                                         a generational talent,
                                         
                                         similar to the two players
                                         
                                         that I just named.
                                         
                                         But Cam Ward, you're right, you're right.
                                         
                                         You can't go against that.
                                         
                                         I believe they're gonna, I believe.
                                         
                                         They canceled all visits.
                                         
    
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Excuse me.
                                         
                                         Bless you, bless you.
                                         
                                         It's hard for me to believe, Ocho,
                                         
                                         that you're gonna take a guy with the first overall pick
                                         
                                         and you don't have an individual meeting with him.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         You're right.
                                         
    
                                         Now, there might be a situation down the line somebody going to first round and they're
                                         
                                         like, I didn't even meet with these guys, but you talk about a top three pick and you
                                         
                                         don't meet with them.
                                         
                                         Okay, you're right.
                                         
                                         Listen, but I just, I just, I just.
                                         
                                         I've not said it can't happen.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         But the likelihood, cause guess what?
                                         
    
                                         Ocho, you know the first pick in the draft
                                         
                                         gets 40 to 45 million fully guaranteed.
                                         
                                         His contract is fully guaranteed the first four years.
                                         
                                         It's fully guaranteed.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Listen, I mean, listen,
                                         
                                         I'm wishing both of those young bulls luck, obviously.
                                         
                                         Whether they get Abdul Carter, whether they get Cam Ward, Cam Ward is going to be a tremendous,
                                         
    
                                         tremendous talent, you know, being able to carry, carry over what he was able to do at
                                         
                                         UM and come into a program and not revitalizing them offensively.
                                         
                                         And they almost look like the UFO from the early 2000s.
                                         
                                         So I'm sure he's going to do, you know, his due diligence in trying to
                                         
                                         revive the Tennessee Titans and some of the mistakes they've had to deal with,
                                         
                                         with Brother Will Levis and Malik Willis and, you know, some, some of those guys.
                                         
                                         It's been a miracle.
                                         
                                         We live a little more competent in Green Bay.
                                         
    
                                         He looked competent in Green Bay.
                                         
                                         He looked very good.
                                         
                                         When Jordan Love was out, when Jordan Love was out, he was balling.
                                         
                                         Yes. He was balling. But listen, it's easy to ball when you got Reed
                                         
                                         and Hicks and Watson and Romeo Dove and all those dudes around
                                         
                                         you. So, I like it. Tennessee has the first pick, Cleveland,
                                         
                                         the Giants, the Patriots, Jacksonville, Vegas, Jets,
                                         
                                         Giants, the Patriots, Jacksonville, Vegas, Jets, Carolina, New Orleans, Chicago, San Fran, Dallas.
                                         
    
                                         And it's so funny.
                                         
                                         We know the top three teams could use a quarterback.
                                         
                                         Yes, sir.
                                         
                                         It seems Cleveland is leaning towards Travis
                                         
                                         or Abdul Carter.
                                         
                                         The question is, the Giants really controls it. What does
                                         
                                         the Giants do at three? They need a quarterback. They don't have a choice.
                                         
                                         They don't have a choice and not a quarterback to come in and play right
                                         
    
                                         now. A quarterback to sit behind Russell Wilson and James Winston and Danny
                                         
                                         Vito and learn the game. You need a quarterback for the future. You have two quarterbacks on one
                                         
                                         year deals. You've had you need a quarterback for the foreseeable
                                         
                                         future.
                                         
                                         Look, I've given Jackson I look I've given Will Levers Will
                                         
                                         Levers had Calvin Ridley and he had D hop. And he had number 85. I can't even pronounce his last name.
                                         
                                         They need a quarterback.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
    
                                         Damn.
                                         
                                         So I can see that.
                                         
                                         I can see them taking a quarterback,
                                         
                                         have him learn for a year with Russ.
                                         
                                         Russ did a one year deal.
                                         
                                         I like it.
                                         
                                         Yeah. The Giants are gonna be the key. Yeah. The Giants are gonna be the key.
                                         
                                         You know what's funny? It's funny you just you just mentioned a draft order.
                                         
    
                                         Ain't no telling what's gonna happen the day of the draft. Ain't no telling there
                                         
                                         might be a player that someone that's picking seven, eight, or nine and they
                                         
                                         sneak up and make sure they grab the actual individual I want and it changes up everything on who and who goes where.
                                         
                                         True. That's possible. That's very possible. You never know. We've seen that happen. Yeah. But
                                         
                                         I think it's gonna be interesting. I think I I think
                                         
                                         for me, what are the odds? What
                                         
                                         are the odds of what's Draft
                                         
                                         King giving us on on on
                                         
    
                                         Tennessee taking a camp war?
                                         
                                         They got they got the odds out
                                         
                                         already. Oh yeah. Hell yeah.
                                         
                                         Wait, what what
                                         
                                         what is the draft? What what
                                         
                                         day? I mean, April what? 24th.
                                         
                                         Okay, we still got 2 weeks.
                                         
                                         Okay. They don't have a lot
                                         
    
                                         yet. I was going to say, well,
                                         
                                         it's kind of early.
                                         
                                         I'm thinking that uh considering
                                         
                                         they see everybody that
                                         
                                         encountered those workouts, they're probably not going to even give you no odds. Probably you're gonna cancel those
                                         
                                         I'm not gonna lie to you. Bro, you're joking here. Hey, what's
                                         
                                         up, boy? What you're talking to
                                         
                                         you? It's a hit of Miami, boy.
                                         
    
                                         I got plenty of room for you
                                         
                                         now. Hey, you see if he buying
                                         
                                         TVs, he talking about what type
                                         
                                         of car should I get? Should I
                                         
                                         get a McLaren? I would just
                                         
                                         think about it. I would just
                                         
                                         think about it. You know,
                                         
                                         McLaren right here. You ain't thinking about paying me though, huh? No, I'm gonna pay you.
                                         
    
                                         I told you I'm gonna pay you.
                                         
                                         The money ain't the problem.
                                         
                                         The money ain't the problem.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna pay you.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         It's minus 20,000.
                                         
                                         Cam Ward being the first quarterback selected
                                         
                                         is minus 20,000.
                                         
    
                                         Jesus. Thank you.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         You'd be a fool to take that. Right. I'm gonna give you a thousand Yeah. But I think the key is at three, Ocho.
                                         
                                         I think because I think Cleveland,
                                         
                                         I think Cleveland is gonna take one of those defenders.
                                         
                                         What, Abdul or Travis?
                                         
                                         Yep, because you know what,
                                         
                                         I can put Travis at wide receiver
                                         
    
                                         and pair him with Jerry Judy.
                                         
                                         Ooh, that's nasty.
                                         
                                         And have some packages for him at DB.
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         Can you imagine Denzel Ward on one side
                                         
                                         and Travis coming in.
                                         
                                         Greg Newsome and Travis coming in at the nickel
                                         
                                         on certain man.
                                         
    
                                         But put Newsome in the slot.
                                         
                                         Met Trav.
                                         
                                         Go outside?
                                         
                                         Go outside, yeah.
                                         
                                         That's nasty. I like that.
                                         
                                         I like that combination.
                                         
                                         I like that combination.
                                         
                                         So it's gonna be, we shall see, we shall see.
                                         
    
                                         I think the kids at the Giants at three,
                                         
                                         New England not taking the quarterback,
                                         
                                         Jacksonville's not taking the quarterback. Jacksonville is not taking a quarterback.
                                         
                                         New England not taking a quarterback.
                                         
                                         They just took a quarterback at three.
                                         
                                         And they really liked this kid.
                                         
                                         Braymond has been abundantly clear.
                                         
                                         One of the reasons he took the job,
                                         
    
                                         they always say that because of the quarterback.
                                         
                                         No, it was a head coaching job
                                         
                                         and they gave you a lot of money.
                                         
                                         That's why he took the job.
                                         
                                         But hey, it sounds good at the time.
                                         
                                         Hey, I'ma rock with it.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         My homie wanted shine, boy.
                                         
    
                                         Man, I swear.
                                         
                                         I need to get you a podcast, come on.
                                         
                                         Come on.
                                         
                                         I need to get you a podcast.
                                         
                                         What can you do?
                                         
                                         Can you do anything?
                                         
                                         Can you do anything?
                                         
                                         Bro.
                                         
    
                                         Nah, bro. you do anything? Can you do I love you too. You did a good job today. You ate all your farmers dog. So yeah, of course. So you have my man.
                                         
                                         Chicken and turkey. I like chicken and turkey. Chicken and turkey is my favorite.
                                         
                                         I get him some chicks at the dog park out here.
                                         
                                         Man, he ain't fixed. He can't go to no dog park.
                                         
                                         That's the whole point.
                                         
                                         Man, they take, you have my dog, they even put my dog down.
                                         
                                         Man, hell no.
                                         
                                         Bill Belichick admitted not drafting Lamar Jackson in 2018 was a major mistake.
                                         
    
                                         Belichick said, took Sonny Michelle, one pick before Lamar was selected,
                                         
                                         with the 32nd pick in the overall draft.
                                         
                                         I mean, that ain't the only, I mean, there have been plenty of mistakes. pick before Lamar was selected with the 32nd pick in the overall draft.
                                         
                                         I mean, that ain't the only, I mean, there've been plenty of mistakes.
                                         
                                         Hell, who were all 28 teams that didn't draft Randy Moss?
                                         
                                         That was a mistake too.
                                         
                                         It's it's hindsight. It's a magnificent side.
                                         
                                         It's easy to say, but hold on.
                                         
    
                                         If they thought Lamar Jackson was going to be this, then
                                         
                                         it took him number one.
                                         
                                         It'd be number one.
                                         
                                         Yes, it's easy, Ocho, it's easy to look back.
                                         
                                         I should have put 500,000 to a million in Netflix.
                                         
                                         I should have put 500,000 to a million in Google.
                                         
                                         It's easy to look back now, they threw the roof.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, you never know.
                                         
    
                                         That's why it's called taking a chance or taking a gamble.
                                         
                                         What about those stocks that we thought, What about the blockbuster stock that I
                                         
                                         had? Can I say your blockbuster right now, Ocho? What the hell?
                                         
                                         Or AOL. Anybody interested in AOL?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Come on, man.
                                         
                                         Coach is easy. I
                                         
                                         mean, hindsight is a
                                         
    
                                         magnificent science because
                                         
                                         you have the luxury of knowing
                                         
                                         now what you didn't know then
                                         
                                         then. Yeah. Well, who could
                                         
                                         live their life like that?
                                         
                                         Ocho? Who could live their
                                         
                                         life like that? We go back and
                                         
                                         say, you know what? Ocho? Think
                                         
    
                                         about it. Just say, okay, we go
                                         
                                         to a bigger school. Hey, with
                                         
                                         our talent, we probably be a
                                         
                                         top 10 pick. We're going to
                                         
                                         get a quarter. Hey, now we got millions coming out.
                                         
                                         We'll get to a contract even sooner.
                                         
                                         We got more, come on, man.
                                         
                                         You make yourself sick doing that.
                                         
    
                                         Hold on.
                                         
                                         As a scout, as a scout and as a GM,
                                         
                                         how do you look at Lamar Jackson at Louisville in college
                                         
                                         and pass on that, and pass on based on what you see?
                                         
                                         I don't care what the people say.
                                         
                                         I don't care what the media say about him being a runnerback.
                                         
                                         How do you pass on that? Understanding how he can be how dynamic he was that is view him as a quarterback?
                                         
                                         Man, it wasn't a man to work out as a wide receiver. Oh Joe
                                         
    
                                         What does that tell you you had some prominent GMs that drafted great historically great players said I see him as a wide receiver
                                         
                                         Remember they wanted Tim Tebow to work out at tight end.
                                         
                                         So you can understand why.
                                         
                                         I mean, it's just like the guy that took Jokic
                                         
                                         in the second round.
                                         
                                         If they knew that, then it took Jokic
                                         
                                         in the first overall pick,
                                         
                                         if you know he's gonna be a three-time MVP.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, but I'm just, you have an eye for football.
                                         
                                         I have an eye for football.
                                         
                                         I could see how dynamic he was in
                                         
                                         college. I can see how the shift in the game and which way it was headed. Okay, this is
                                         
                                         what I need.
                                         
                                         But I did say I thought the Ravens should take it. What pick did the Ravens, because
                                         
                                         the Ravens had two first round picks. I just knew the Ravens were going to take it with
                                         
                                         their first first round pick. I said, oh perfect, the Ravens are perfect. And then when they
                                         
    
                                         pass it like, oh, perfect. The Ravens are perfect. Yeah. Yeah. And then when they pass it like, oh, shucks.
                                         
                                         Hey, you win some, you lose some.
                                         
                                         They had twenty- Who did the twenty-fifth pick? Who did they take?
                                         
                                         Okay, tight end. They took a tight end. He had some good years for the Broncos. I think he's still playing.
                                         
                                         He was at Cleveland.
                                         
                                         No, he's in New England, isn't he?
                                         
                                         Who that?
                                         
                                         Hayden Hurst.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, okay, okay.
                                         
                                         But he might be a free agent, but he, okay.
                                         
                                         But Ojo, that's the thing.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         When you can't see
                                         
                                         like, oh, he can't play. I'm like, bro. And my thing was like, bro, somebody threw for all them yards.
                                         
                                         Somebody. Right.
                                         
                                         Y'all make it seem like the man rushed for three thousand yards.
                                         
    
                                         The man passed for three thousand.
                                         
                                         He rushed for fifteen hundred.
                                         
                                         And his his his junior year or sophomore year
                                         
                                         was better than the year that we run the Heisman.
                                         
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                                         I just knew the bra, I knew, I said the Ravens, I think the ravers gonna take him I said I'd
                                         
                                         be a good pick they're the right situation.
                                         
                                         I got some badass kids today.
                                         
                                         That's why I'm getting you a brother, bro.
                                         
                                         What's what's that? I just, I
                                         
                                         just, you're going to tell me
                                         
    
                                         that. Oh, there you go. Yes.
                                         
                                         What they were, what they were
                                         
                                         in the organ. No, he turned, he
                                         
                                         turned stuff off the box. Yeah.
                                         
                                         And the argument. They've been fighting over over cloth the whole night.
                                         
                                         Get it.
                                         
                                         So I called the latest today,
                                         
                                         so I'm going to get I'm going to
                                         
    
                                         get I'm going to get another one.
                                         
                                         You're going to get another one.
                                         
                                         Another one of these, not this one.
                                         
                                         No, not him.
                                         
                                         Well, how do you think they're going to be accepting of a new dog?
                                         
                                         They're going to be great.
                                         
                                         They're going to be great.
                                         
                                         Are you going to get another male?
                                         
    
                                         Yes. I've only had male dogs. We've only had, we've only had male dogs.
                                         
                                         In my family, we've only had male dogs. All this going back to my grandfather had hunting dogs,
                                         
                                         Riley and Skimp, to us having Joe Boy and Homer and Champ.
                                         
                                         Hold on, now you've had Teddy and Titus,
                                         
                                         how are you so sure they're gonna be accepting
                                         
                                         of a new male dog coming in?
                                         
                                         I'm the pack leader.
                                         
                                         I determine how everything goes.
                                         
    
                                         Okay, okay. Okay. I like that. Yes.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I know I had for at one point in time. I had had Tarzan and Taz and I had four at one point in time. I had Tarzan and Taz and I had Titan and Tonka.
                                         
                                         So I had four at one time.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         And then I had three, had an Akita named Samson,
                                         
                                         but we called him Bo, and I had Taz and Tarzan.
                                         
                                         Where all these dogs at, man?
                                         
    
                                         Well, I got these two right here.
                                         
                                         I'm going, I'm getting another one, probably in a month.
                                         
                                         He got papers, he's all vaccinated.
                                         
                                         He got a passport.
                                         
                                         I just talked to the lady, we're gonna ride her money.
                                         
                                         And then when she brings him over,
                                         
                                         I'll give her the rest of the money in cash.
                                         
                                         Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
                                         
    
                                         What kind of dog are we talking about?
                                         
                                         Another one of these, a palm.
                                         
                                         Well, whoa, oh, hey, oh, hey. How much, how much, how much we talking?? Another one of these a palm. Well, whoa, oh hey, oh hey.
                                         
                                         How much we talking?
                                         
                                         How much it cost?
                                         
                                         Same, 10.
                                         
                                         10 what?
                                         
                                         Yeah, cause you got, oh Joe, he's coming from overseas.
                                         
    
                                         Hold on, 10 what?
                                         
                                         10 bands.
                                         
                                         So that's why I need that 5,200.
                                         
                                         It's only 4,800.
                                         
                                         So once I get my 52.
                                         
                                         So hold on.
                                         
                                         So you're paying 10,000 American dollars
                                         
                                         in this economy for a dog.
                                         
    
                                         When you're-
                                         
                                         You just bid 21,000 on one bedroom set.
                                         
                                         No, that was my living room furniture.
                                         
                                         Okay, living room.
                                         
                                         Man, people furnish your whole house for 10 bands.
                                         
                                         Hold on, hold on. Wait a minute, wait a minute.
                                         
                                         This is a different house.
                                         
                                         I'm doing all white, this is different.
                                         
    
                                         This is a different type of fabric
                                         
                                         that comes all the way from Ethiopia.
                                         
                                         You can't get this white anywhere.
                                         
                                         Oh Lord have mercy.
                                         
                                         Then my rug is Alpaca.
                                         
                                         I got Alpaca rug.
                                         
                                         Yeah, this is different, all white.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna pack you in that same rug
                                         
    
                                         and throw your ass in there.
                                         
                                         Hey, listen, I could gonna pack you in that same rug and throw your ass in there.
                                         
                                         Hey, listen, I could have got you a dog. I got a homeboy right now in Liberty City. Could have got you a what's that a Pomeranian? Yes. Could have got you a Pomeranian, five star Pomeranian
                                         
                                         for $200. You see, and I'm gonna beat the tariffs. I don't want to buy you know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                         Because they charge putting tariffs on everything. So you know what I'm saying? Cause they charge putting tariffs on everything.
                                         
                                         So you know what I'm saying, Ocho?
                                         
                                         No, no, we got a 90 day suspension on the tariffs.
                                         
                                         So we good right now.
                                         
    
                                         Well, I'm getting all, we getting all that stuff before,
                                         
                                         you know, you never know, you might change his mind.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So yeah, so I gotta get one from him.
                                         
                                         Cause he and Tar, Titus don't realize how big he is.
                                         
                                         So Titus be picking him up, walking around because he pick him up by his shirt
                                         
                                         and be walking around with him. Yeah.
                                         
                                         Hey, but hey, but but listen, listen, that's that's a whole lot of money
                                         
    
                                         for a dog, man. I'm just listen, I'm I'm just I'm just looking out for you.
                                         
                                         I've never heard of I've heard the first time you spend 10 on that one
                                         
                                         and spending 10 on another one. Bro, there's a dog that you sold for
                                         
                                         five million dollars. No it's not. Yes it is. Google it. I think it's a Tibetan
                                         
                                         Mastiff. That story might not be real. I doubt that's real. Oh Joe, the bloodlines
                                         
                                         go I mean the top of the bloodlines they go for 600,000 on average. Yeah I know.
                                         
                                         Oh Joe, I'm in the dogs. Oh me too. You know I love the dog too. The Tibetan Mastiff is huge. You know it'm not a dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not
                                         
                                         a dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not
                                         
    
                                         a dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not
                                         
                                         a dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not
                                         
                                         a dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not
                                         
                                         a dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a
                                         
                                         dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a
                                         
                                         dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a
                                         
                                         dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a
                                         
                                         dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a
                                         
    
                                         dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a
                                         
                                         dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a
                                         
                                         dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a
                                         
                                         dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a
                                         
                                         dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a
                                         
                                         dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a
                                         
                                         dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a dog. I'm not a dog. I'm just saying, you know, 10,000, that's a little steep now for a dog and I got. That ain't nothing.
                                         
                                         I mean, the fact that I can get you one for $200 that looks just like that.
                                         
    
                                         Look, I was about to buy me a car, but they talk about them tariffs.
                                         
                                         I ain't getting the car till 28.
                                         
                                         Hold on, well, how you about, you got a $10,000 dog, you about to buy a car and you complaining
                                         
                                         because I'm going to go get a McLaren tomorrow.
                                         
                                         With 5200 of my dollars, that's why I'm complaining.
                                         
                                         If it's all your money, I don't give a deal about that. $500,000. With $5200 of my dollars. That's why I'm
                                         
                                         complaining. If it's all your
                                         
                                         money, I don't give a deal
                                         
    
                                         about that. You're buying you
                                         
                                         buying stuff with my money.
                                         
                                         What's wrong with this man? He
                                         
                                         turned out. Turn out. Listen,
                                         
                                         I'm not getting the McLaren
                                         
                                         with with with your money. I'm
                                         
                                         that's not what I'm using. I
                                         
                                         got I got I got 50 lem jobs. I
                                         
    
                                         got 50 lem jobs. It's the most
                                         
                                         expensive dog. Breeder pays $5 million for a rare wolf dog. That's part wild
                                         
                                         bees part pooch and eats three kilograms of raw meat daily.
                                         
                                         Here's its new owner. 5 million. A wolf a wolf dog. Yes. Now go
                                         
                                         look up Tibetan Mastiff and get those pure bloodlines 600,000
                                         
                                         million 2 million, top.
                                         
                                         Even dogs that you see at the Westminster.
                                         
                                         Those dogs go on average for five to 10.
                                         
    
                                         Easy.
                                         
                                         Now they expensive.
                                         
                                         Now I know that's show dogs.
                                         
                                         That's a different ball game.
                                         
                                         Okay, the most expensive Tibetan Mastiff ever sold
                                         
                                         is a red golden puppy named Big Splash.
                                         
                                         A guy by the name of Hong Dong in Chinese paid 1.5 million, 10 million wang in 2011
                                         
                                         for Chinese.
                                         
    
                                         Hey, these are beautiful.
                                         
                                         They look like an oversized chow chow.
                                         
                                         Chow chow.
                                         
                                         Chow chow. Dogs are expensive, bro. I wanted to get a Bichon. As a matter of fact, I went to
                                         
                                         Bichon. I went to Houston, Texas, Scott Summer. If y'all don't believe it, you can call him up and
                                         
                                         ask him. I went out there. They had one named JR. He was the first Bichon to win. He's won again.
                                         
                                         He's won with another Bichon, and he also won with a Columbus and spaniel named Stone. I went out there and looked at him. Man, that man told me what
                                         
                                         that thing was going to cost. Oh no, bro. I'm sorry. I wasted your time.
                                         
    
                                         A Bichon for his egg?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         How much?
                                         
                                         Like 30. And then they wanted to trade him because they wanted to put him in the show.
                                         
                                         30, 30,000?
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         because they wanted to put him in the show. 30, 30,000?
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
    
                                         Man.
                                         
                                         And then he wanted to show
                                         
                                         because the thing is, is that like, he's the trainer.
                                         
                                         He wasn't the owner.
                                         
                                         As a matter of fact, chat, y'all know I'm talking about,
                                         
                                         Carol Ruggles was the owner.
                                         
                                         Go look it up, go look up Carol Ruggles.
                                         
                                         Man, 30,000.
                                         
    
                                         Boy, boy stop.
                                         
                                         Ooh, but that's expensive, boy. I'm gonna give my dog a chance. I'm gonna give them a week. Even if they don't give me a chance, I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
    
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
    
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna give them a week.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna give them a week. I'm gonna give them a week. I'm gonna give them a week. I'm gonna give them a week. I'm gonna give them a said, I'm always gonna give my dog at least a
                                         
                                         chance. I'm gonna give them a week. Even if the vet tells me
                                         
                                         Mr. shark, I'm gonna give them a week. Right. And I know it
                                         
                                         sends me back sometime to cause me 1520 bands, but I'm gonna
                                         
                                         give them a week. I'm a if you can pull through, I'm gonna
                                         
    
                                         give you a chance. Right. Then I just have to make I have to
                                         
                                         make the tough decision. Right. They're not gonna be able to pull through. I don gonna give you a chance. And then I have to make the tough decision.
                                         
                                         They're not gonna be able to pull it through.
                                         
                                         I don't want them to suffer
                                         
                                         because at some point in time it gets to a point
                                         
                                         where Ocho, are you keeping them alive for you
                                         
                                         or are you keeping them alive for him?
                                         
                                         Because he has no quality of life.
                                         
    
                                         Listen, I love that you love dogs.
                                         
                                         I hear the passion in your voice.
                                         
                                         But if you ever want to save some money,
                                         
                                         I got a homeboy named Dewberry in Liberty City right now.
                                         
                                         He's a booster.
                                         
                                         He can get you anything.
                                         
                                         Oh, I got a homeboy too.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         As a matter of fact, I just saw it.
                                         
                                         I said, man, what my damn pressure washer did I get you $200 for?
                                         
                                         He got some expensive ass cologne. I said, I don't want no damn cologne. what my damn pressure washing that I gave you $200 for?
                                         
                                         He got he got some expensive ass cologne. I said I want a damn cologne.
                                         
                                         I want that pressure watching that you promised me.
                                         
                                         Hey,
                                         
                                         no, that's crazy.
                                         
                                         30,000 10,000.
                                         
    
                                         That's that's jewelry.
                                         
                                         That's like you buy like you got you.
                                         
                                         Hey, like you got that Rolex and you got them chrome heart jeans that you sitting on there smoking
                                         
                                         them cigars.
                                         
                                         How much a pair of chrome heart jeans?
                                         
                                         10, 12, 15,000.
                                         
                                         The belt, 5,000.
                                         
                                         Nah.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, bulljive.
                                         
                                         You know I'm a booster, man.
                                         
                                         A booster? I don't know what you are, but I'm just saying. you. No. Yeah, bulljive. You
                                         
                                         know, I'm a, you know, I'm a
                                         
                                         booster, man. A booster. I don't
                                         
                                         know what you are but I'm just
                                         
                                         saying, can I get my fifty
                                         
                                         two hundred dollars so I can
                                         
    
                                         send this woman a money? I got
                                         
                                         you. I got you. No, you don't
                                         
                                         got me. Hold on. When you when
                                         
                                         you when you gonna get the dog,
                                         
                                         when you gonna get the dog so I
                                         
                                         can send the money. I gotta
                                         
                                         wire the money. I gotta wire
                                         
                                         the money half of it tomorrow.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, tomorrow? So, you're gonna
                                         
                                         send your half and then when the dog come out, you're gonna send your half and then when
                                         
                                         when the dog come back, you the
                                         
                                         rest of it. What you mean my
                                         
                                         half? You got that man to my
                                         
                                         head. That man gonna talk about
                                         
                                         he he go, you go ahead and see
                                         
                                         your half and when it come, I
                                         
    
                                         give you my, I give you my
                                         
                                         half. All of his my hair. You got my money. This man.
                                         
                                         This man talking about buying a McLaren. This man talking
                                         
                                         about Mandum ball all kind of stuff. Got seven. Y'all saw it.
                                         
                                         Seven is TV. Hey, hold on. Hey, listen. I'm in I'm in my
                                         
                                         winning. With surround sound. I'm in my winning season. I
                                         
                                         told you 2025. I'm not playing.
                                         
                                         Well, I wanna win.
                                         
    
                                         I'm losing right now.
                                         
                                         You ain't losing.
                                         
                                         Oh, you ain't losing.
                                         
                                         You just bought a $10,000 dog.
                                         
                                         How you losing?
                                         
                                         You were finna buy a car yesterday,
                                         
                                         but the tariffs made you stop.
                                         
                                         I went by, no, I was thinking about buying a car in 26.
                                         
    
                                         I wasn't buying no car this year.
                                         
                                         Okay, okay, okay, okay.
                                         
                                         I just got the extended warranty.
                                         
                                         Oh no.
                                         
                                         Okay, so are you?
                                         
                                         As a matter of fact, I'm gonna push it all the way back to 28. I'm just gonna get, give me a two year extended warranty. My warranty will be up in January of 26. So I'm gonna get 26, 27. I get me a new car in 28.
                                         
                                         Okay. Well, I ain't finna wait
                                         
                                         Hey, boy, that's funny. That's funny.
                                         
    
                                         That's funny, boy.
                                         
                                         That's funny.
                                         
                                         Now, I'm chilling, though.
                                         
                                         I ain't gonna bite.
                                         
                                         I ain't gonna bite.
                                         
                                         No, I ain't gonna bite.
                                         
                                         I'm chilling.
                                         
                                         I'm just glad to be in my new place, man.
                                         
    
                                         This thing look real.
                                         
                                         Now, I will give you a tour.
                                         
                                         I will give you a tour, but I don't know how to work the camera.
                                         
                                         Don't worry about it.
                                         
                                         If you don't... I'll tell you what, Ocho,
                                         
                                         if you don't give me my money,
                                         
                                         I'm going to come visit you and I'm
                                         
                                         going to take me a Duke on the Alpaca.
                                         
    
                                         No, no, don't do that.
                                         
                                         Hey, you know how much I pay for that?
                                         
                                         Guess how much you're going to play to
                                         
                                         get it clean?
                                         
                                         Nah, nah.
                                         
                                         I'm going to drink me some chocolate
                                         
                                         milk and I'm going to eat my three,
                                         
                                         four apples.
                                         
    
                                         Hey, listen, you know, you kind of
                                         
                                         mad me, you know, it's a whole lot of
                                         
                                         people got to deal with you.
                                         
                                         You mess around with me down here now. I'm talking about my three, four apples. Hey listen, you know, you kind of mad me, you know it's a whole lot of people you gotta deal with.
                                         
                                         You mess around with me down here now.
                                         
                                         I'm talking about a complete blowout. Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-b Let's take a listen to what Kyler had to say, Ocho. I mean, like the people out there, they're like Kyler doesn't want to run or he wants to,
                                         
                                         like how do you dispel that?
                                         
                                         Cause I just look at it, it's just part of the offense.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, I actually, you know, conversations,
                                         
                                         and I don't want to get too scheme based about it,
                                         
                                         but like I do feel like I have to run more next year.
                                         
                                         You know, I'm opening to,
                                         
                                         I'm open to running more next year.
                                         
                                         Just because it's such a, it's such a weapon, you know,
                                         
                                         it's such a weapon. it's such a weapon.
                                         
                                         It's defenses, it's like when I hand the ball off,
                                         
    
                                         obviously I hand the ball off to James.
                                         
                                         So it's not like, and I hand the ball off to Trey,
                                         
                                         I hand it, you know, we're a very good rushing team,
                                         
                                         which is a great thing.
                                         
                                         But when Lamar hands the ball off, everybody's like,
                                         
                                         oh, like, you know, you take it, you can relax, you know,
                                         
                                         Josh hands the ball off, ah, you know what I mean?
                                         
                                         So I think for us, part of the emphasis
                                         
    
                                         going into the next season is conceptually on time.
                                         
                                         I feel like I'm one of the best in the league.
                                         
                                         I like that.
                                         
                                         I like that.
                                         
                                         I like it a lot.
                                         
                                         Now remember, we had, we,
                                         
                                         there was some coach that played
                                         
                                         that said he didn't want to run.
                                         
    
                                         Now he said, and he's right.
                                         
                                         The most dangerous player, the most dangerous
                                         
                                         is when he has the ball in his hands.
                                         
                                         Lamar is the most dangerous when he has the ball
                                         
                                         in his hands.
                                         
                                         When you don't know what he's gonna do.
                                         
                                         You pray he throws it.
                                         
                                         You pray Josh Allen throws it.
                                         
    
                                         You ain't trying to get, you're not trying to get
                                         
                                         see any of those guys.
                                         
                                         Josh Allen, six, six, two, to get to see any of those guys. John Shannon, 6'6", 250.
                                         
                                         Lamar Jackson, ah man.
                                         
                                         Ain't no telling.
                                         
                                         Just, I like it.
                                         
                                         I like it.
                                         
                                         Cause when you think about what Kyle Emery's able to do,
                                         
    
                                         I think he's also become a quarterback that,
                                         
                                         you know, he's a dual threat.
                                         
                                         You know, he can play off script.
                                         
                                         He can pull the ball down and use his legs,
                                         
                                         but he's one of those quarterbacks who also wants to throw first. You know, he wants to off script, he can pull the ball down and use his legs, but he's one of those quarterbacks
                                         
                                         who also wants to throw first.
                                         
                                         You know, he wants to hurt you with his arm first,
                                         
                                         and then if I have no choice, then I use my legs after.
                                         
    
                                         I think he wants to be seed and viewed in the same light
                                         
                                         as your Lamar Jackson, as your Josh Allen,
                                         
                                         and the other dual threat quarterbacks around NFL.
                                         
                                         I think that he hasn't had the team success
                                         
                                         that they have, you know, being able to reach the playoffs
                                         
                                         consistently year in and year out.
                                         
                                         But I think allowing him to do that more,
                                         
                                         being able to use his legs a little bit more
                                         
    
                                         to help them out offensively would be tremendous,
                                         
                                         you know, for Arizona.
                                         
                                         I agree. I agree.
                                         
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                                         The championship is back in the Bay for the first time in 40 years.
                                         
    
                                         On the new limited podcast series, Dub Dynasty,
                                         
                                         we hear from head coach Steve Kerr
                                         
                                         on how Steph Curry almost never even joined the Warriors.
                                         
                                         In fact, I thought we had a draft date deal
                                         
                                         to end up getting him to Phoenix.
                                         
                                         For the entire behind the scenes story
                                         
                                         of Golden State's incredible 10 year run,
                                         
                                         listen to Dub Dynasty on the iHeart radio app,
                                         
    
                                         Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your
                                         
                                         podcasts.
                                         
                                         What's up everyone?
                                         
                                         Julie Swift, here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.
                                         
                                         We're doing a new podcast together.
                                         
                                         Here we go.
                                         
                                         The name?
                                         
                                         Energy Line with Nate and JSB.
                                         
    
                                         Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey, life, all topics are fair game, right?
                                         
                                         Exactly, and you'll never know who will drop by to join us.
                                         
                                         Julia's pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.
                                         
                                         Listen to Energy Line with Nate and JSB on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
                                         
                                         Tickets are on sale now, y'all, for our 2025 iHeart Country Festival, podcasts. Sam Hunt, Megan Moroney, Bailey Zimmerman, Nate Smith.
                                         
                                         Tickets are on sale now at Ticketmaster.com.
                                         
