Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Shedeur Time LOADING in CLEVELAND? + Rodgers set to face Jordan Love & PACKERS + Westbrook CAN’T STAND FAKE LeBron + Jimmy Butler NO HIDDEN AGENDAS

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Green Bay Packers vs the Pittsburgh Steelers being this weekend Matt LeFleur says this game is not about Aaron Rodgers, Deshaun Watson has been caught liking videos of TikTok about Stefnaski being fired, Deshaun Watson gets caught liking TikTok’s about Stefanski being fired, and sources in Cleveland think that Shedeur Sanders will play this season and much more! 0:00 - Packers vs Steelers game isn’t about Aaron Rodgers5:00 - Deshaun Watson caught liking TikTok’s about firing Kevin Stefanski6:50 - Sources say Shedeur Sanders will play this season10:30 - Rams first team to have same day International flight and win19:30 - Russell Westbrook on LeBron James being “Fake”30:42 - Play or Fade33:27 - Jimmy Butler glad to be part of an organization with "no hidden agendas" 39:30 - Q & Ayyyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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games between the Packers and the Steelers isn't about Aaron Rogers and Matt LaFleur. Matt LaFleur said today, we're playing the Pittsburgh Steelers who happened to have Aaron Rogers. It's as simple as that. That's for you guys to talk about granted. I mean, we've got a lot of love and respect for Aaron. We

know what he's done here. I mean, he's a Hall of Famer. And I know, like our past together, we had a lot of great moments, but the game is not about that. Oh, Joe? What's a bigger statement? Aaron Rogers taking out his former team and George Love outplaying his old mentor. I think as a Green Bay Packer fan, organization, coaches, hell, fans in general, you would want Jordan Love to outplay, you know, your quarterback that used to be there for a decade plus. That's what you want to happen. or the coach is going to say all the right things. Yeah, damn there are two decades. Damn there two decades.

Obviously, the coaches are going to say all the right things. Oh, it's not about Aaron Rodgers. Yes. Yeah, whatever. You know, you know what it is. You know what the storylines are going to be with this week coming up, and you want your players that's in your locker room, especially at the quarterback position,

to not only play well, but to be Ann Rogers, because you want that to be the headline. You want that to be what they talk about after the game is over. Everybody will say the right thing. Listen at Tom Brady talk now. Oh, I hyped up everybody. But in the actuality, what I'm telling my team, we're going to kick his ass.

We're going to kick their ass. I've been saying that. Yeah, they're going to say all the right thing. Oh, look, it's just another opponent. They just happen to be on my schedule. Bull Jive. No, it ain't just another opponent. It's not.

Aaron Rogers is upset with how he was treated, his last couple of years there. He didn't want them to draft a Jordan Love. He made that abundantly clear. They did it anyway. Yes. They were tired of being held hostage

by Aaron Rogers. The same thing, Aaron did the same thing that Brett Barneyed. They got tired of it. They got tired of Brett, not wanting to come to training camp, not want to do anything,

but playing the game. They got tired of error in the same thing. So they drafted his replacement. Production and tolerance. As long as tolerance, production is here. Tolerance will never, ever outweigh production. I don't care what line of work you're in. As long as you produce, they'll tolerate a lot of issues from you.

The moment tolerance is more than, in production. You got, you got to go. But I mean, if I'm Aaron Rogers, I ain't got, Aaron Rogers ain't got nothing

to hang his head about. Bro, you got four. Look, do I believe Aaron should have won more in Green Bay? Yes, best on what the talent

that he had, based on, based on his talent alone, one of the two or three most gifted throes of the football that we've ever seen. you're going to go up you're going to probably have to go a long long time before you find

somebody that can throw the ball that was as good as Aaron Rogers and you look at what they had offensively the talent that they had you look at the defensive talent I think it should have won more I do I think may I leave I do I think they should have even if you don't win a Super Bowl get to a Super Bowl you know what I'm saying don't Joe get to one crazy talented But other than that, look, he wants to win too. He's going to say all the right thing. When they ask him, when they get into the locker room on Wednesday, he's going to say all the right thing.

Had a great time there. Met some friends there. Got some cool guys. Some guys in that locker room I'm still cool with. He's probably still cool with Jordy, Clay Matthew Jr. There's some guys maybe on the team. I don't know how many of the guys on the team. He was there when he was there.

I'm sure he's cool with some of the people in an upper manager. He might be still cool with them. Probably not Brian Gutikinz. He's not cool with him. But there are probably some people, you know, some personnel, equipment managers or training staff things like that, Ocho. You know, hey, you see these guys every day.

And you're there like, when you're there for 5, 10, 15, there was there for like, what, 18 years? Yes. But everybody's going to say the right thing. But I promise you. Matt LaFleau want to win this game more than anything. Brett Farr wanted to win this game more than anything. Because guess what?

I told you. I got to be able to tell you, I told you, so old you. You don't got to say it publicly. Hey, just watch how, just watch how I'm a walk different after I get this win. I'm a walk different. Many fans have called for Kevin Stefanski, two-time coach of the year. I think he's been two-time coach of the year at Cleveland Browns to be, fired saying he's been the problem rather than the Brown's quarterback.

Deshaun Watson got caught liking videos if talking Stefansky on TikTok. Ocho, you like Deshaun doing this? I mean, it's social media. Sometimes you like stuff you shouldn't. Sometimes you like stuff you should. Maybe Deshaun feels the same way everyone else feels. Is it okay for him to be able to like it publicly?

I mean, yeah, I'd assume so. If you're able to deal with the consequences of doing so. And obviously, he's in a position where he doesn't really care, which is why he did it publicly. Because everyone can see what you like. Everybody can see it. That's why you know what, Ocho, when I get to a page and they say something about, look,

obviously I know Stephen A's been trending a lot lately, I scroll right on past it. Yeah, so it's no mistakes, huh? Nope. Somebody say something about something. I strode right on past it. Because I already know. Hey, I ain't know, I ain't know them,

I ain't know it was that serious, too. Speaking of Stephen A, I mean, I thought LeBron thing, I thought that was just like, you know, their makeup, they're going to be like Muhammad Ali and Howard Coasell. I'm like, oh, shoot, but they're dead ass. No, I just

Hey That's him I could comment But that's not my place I'm good We over here All right, Ocho According to ESP

and Cleveland Two different sources Told them That Shudor Sanders will play For the Browns this season One says Shoulder will start

At least four games Of the season No matter what Those final four games Against the Bears Bill, Steelers and Bengals The other said Other sorts said

That Shudor May take over Even sooner than that Ocho what do you make of this I mean, I take it with a grain of salt. If you watch the Browns when they beat the Dolphins, it really had nothing really to do with the quarterback position. The defense played so goddamn out their mind

and practically won that game. I say they give Dillian Gabriel maybe another week, maybe two, maybe even three, because that is the person they chose to be the backup quarterback to Flacco. It's a lot of football. ball left funk it's a lot of a ball left and he has to play extremely bad maybe the next game or the next two games before i think they they make a choice and they move to shadour because once they once they make a move to the third quarterback yeah you can't be flip flop like in court back

no Dylan gabriel get three four games your door get three four games and you go back up i know i agree with you i i agree i look i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't I don't know. This is what the guy said. The sources in Cleveland inside of Cleveland told him. I don't know. I don't know anybody in Cleveland. So I can neither confirm nor deny that is true. But what I do know is that whatever decision that you make,

you probably need to stick with it because you've already made one quarterback change. So if you make another one, that's two. Are you really trying to make three quarterback changes? You see what happened with the first quarterback change you made. It wasn't the right decision because you put, you put, you,

you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

you got a guy, you got a guy, you got a guy that can throw the football, he understands, you got two, you ship him to a team that's quarterback deprived, that has great skill players, and you give him a guy that's not mobile,

but he can throw it. Man, listen. And like Mike Thomas says, Hey, Hey, Tommy's funny, bro. Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than you and I. Hey, we might hang 50 on the Jets, man.

Mike. We might hang 50 on the Jets. Might. But I believe y'all going to be facing Tyrod. Oh, did Aaron Glenn come out and say who was the start of this week yet? Nope, he did not. Ooh, that's tough for him. That's tough.

But I, look, you know, you heard time say that, look, Shador time is going to come, and when it comes, just be ready. He says, it's going to happen, but just be ready. And we all go through that. Being a low round draft pick, just like, wait, Hey, my brother told me, John Elwood's going to call your number. When he called, just make sure you ready. That phone.

And I hope when he gets that call, he comes in there and he shows that, hey, you got a quarterback and you can bill with me. We won't know until we see it. The Rams became the first NFL team to fly the day before an international game and play, then immediately head. back out. And it worked. The Rams won 35-7 on the JAG. The Rams are always ahead of trends. It's what makes them unique. Could this be the next big trend?

How far flight is that? Six hours. Oh, no, from L.A.? Not from no L.A? That's about 12. Yeah. Yeah, about 12. What part of the U.K. You're going to from L.A. that you get there six hours. I mean, shoot.

maybe if you in New York is six hours New York is six hours in 30 minutes I forgot I'm tripping yeah it's six hours I'm taking that flight a lot going to J.O.K. It's six hours from L.A. to J.K.

That's a long flight from L.A. Oh? Yeah. Hell yeah. Hold on to go and turn right back around. yes so they flew in they got in saturday woke up Saturday morning I mean Sunday morning and got right better and got right back on the plane so they was there less than 24 hours hey they hey that's what you's called that's what you call I'm going strictly for business and nothing else oh yeah man I remember we played uh we played uh with the Tokyo we flew with Tokyo.

Tokyo. International, you know, used to play those international pre-ceiving game. So we, I played in, I played in Berlin, Barcelona, Mexico, Tokyo, Ocho. How about we take that long-ass flight? We had to pack a bag.

We went, because guys, you know, if you were married, you were able to take your wife. They got on, they went to a separate, they got on the bus, and then we went and we ran wind sprint. Wait, what? Yes. So if your wife came with you, you didn't have to run?

No, the wives got on the bus and they went to the hotel. We got on another bus and took our ass to the field and ran sprints. Well, to get some of that jet leg, get the... Well, we don't want y'all to go to sleep. Well, my body say, I'm sleeping. My body ain't telling me a bud. Right, right, right. Hey, that's fun.

I don't know, I don't be knowing what it'd be coming up with this at, Ocho. Well, you know, you get somewhere international, you know, you make sure you don't go to sleep, get out and walk around, but I'm tired. How long is that flight to Tokyo? Unless you like somebody else I know that can sleep the whole while to play. How long is that flight to Tokyo? Oh, gosh. Don't start mid-alide. Oh, we went to Australia too, Ocho.

Oh. I don't you remember now, Ocho Hey, that sounds like a good time, yeah What's a good time? Like you have to think I'd have been all over the world But my traveling is done strictly for soccer I'm strictly going for soccer games

I've never been to Tokyo But if I was to go somewhere Where it had nothing to do with soccer Tokyo is a place I go It's hot It's just a hell yeah Oh, I live in Miami. Okay, it's just like Miami, but more crowded.

So double the about of people that's in Miami, because we went to Tokyo. So double the amount of people. Damn. Yeah. I like that. I think it was, I think we flew to Australia. I think it was like 18 hours. Hey, that's, because we had, we had a double-decker.

that I was when I flew to, when I flew the guitar, I flew to, I flew to Dubai and I had to go to I want to fly what's through their lines like, United Emirates, I want to get, because I'd be seeing the thing on TikTok where they be having the first class and they got out. And it's nice, I don't.

I just want to take me a trip. I might just fly over there stay on the plane, turn around and come right back, but I'm about to do that. You know what I'm saying? Ocho, I got to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. That, that, that, yeah, yeah, you know what, Ocho? I think, Probably next year or two, I'm going to take me a couple of trips. Yeah.

Matter of fact, you said in a year or two also, you was, you were going to get. That's why I'm going to take me a couple of trips. I got to find out, I mean, if I can't be with you three or four days, how I'm going to be with you three or four years? That's a good one right there. I like that. I like that. I like that.

Matter of fact, you didn't even got to take the trips. You can make sure you could be with three or four days in the States. If I could be with you three or four days. No, I got to go. I got to go. Because for what I've been hearing, they're like, Shiana, you ain't going to find nobody. Look, bro, I know, you know, you're sitting your way,

but women like to go on vacation, bro. They do. They do. They like a little change of scenery. Okay. They like a little change of scenery. I mean, I mean, you know, you know how they say, I mean, depending on what's left out here.

You know, so you got to pick from what's left, you know. No, I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know. Hey, man, everything, look here. This ain't no back to school. Everything ain't picked over now, Ocho. Damn. You make it seem like it's back to school out here.

Hey, uh, what? Hey, it's slim pickets. Now, once we get up in the 80s, now, ain't like we just got the best of the best. You're right, Ocho, you're right. You're right. Hey, we can get, hey, shh. You're right.

Man, listen. You got to get what you can. Like, you go, you go. in the produce section, they didn't pick the all the goddamn good fruit. Now you got to pick it. That's why you, hey, that's why you got a wash fruit. Everybody has done been on it. You know what I'm saying, Ocho?

You go bite into an apple if you want to. It doesn't have been touched 50 times. Hey, you can't be too picky. You got to work with what you got. Damn, Ocho. Hey, that they listen. I can't be picky, Ocho. Shit.

Picky, you're going to be by your damn. trying to be picky. Yeah, I guess. I guess I got a... Nobody, no... The trouble I... Hey. Hey,

but them days are trying to be picky and pick the right one and, man, she... Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right, don't you? I remember those days. How you think, you know?

Yeah. And you got all these requirements and she got to look like this, got to have this pixie haircut and... Yeah. All that shit out the window, boy, once you get paid,

once you get Paa 40? Yeah, boy. Hey, pay, pick is getting real soon. Well, I guess it ain't no hope for, oh, shit. Hey, I bet, I'm gonna go for the damn half off sale. Yeah, half off, boy. It's a clearance rack, boy, once you hit Ryan.

Damn! So, I got to go to Marshalls or Ross? Gallo, come on, Chad. God day! Hey! Hey, boy, shit rough, boy. shit, raw Hey, women, women

can get away with it You know, they're in their 20s You know, early 30s? Oh, you can get away with it You know, having Oh, I got requirements And you got to meet this and meet that But you hit by, you know, 40, 45

Oh, shit All that shit out of the window now You better get what you can All that being picky Going get old half off sale Dollar Tree, here I come Hey, I heard dollar tree Unmarked everything up

They ain't got no more dollars in Dollar Tree They say everything $2.99, $3.99, $9.00 tree. Damn, I'm out of gas. Oh, well. Hey, listen, you got to understand As you get older, as you get older, whether you're male or female.

Yeah. Now you compete with the young folk. You compete with the young folk. Now, if you don't want to compete, You know, you All right, let me, let me, let me, let me, hey. Oh, Lord, let me meet, let me, let me check and see what Let me check and see what I got.

Hey, hey, hey, pick it. Let me go and get my umbrella. It's raining that sign. I got to come on in the house. Damn. Russell Westbrook reportedly grew tired of LeBron's fake behavior during his time in LA. According to Yaron Weissman,

I hate that fake ish, I just can't do it. LeBron quietly pushed for a reunion with Kyrie Irving, a move that would have required trading Russell Westbrook, despite publicly denying it. LeBron often let Russ be Russ in interviews, but didn't actually support him behind the scenes. During a Lakers team event where Will Smith came to speak, LeBron and AD suddenly walked out before he arrived.

Minutes later, they returned. acting overly friendly. LeBron dominated the talk, asking questions, and quoting movie lines. Westbrook was watching in disbelief, told a teammate, I hate this fake-ish. I just can't do it. Westbrook saw multiple examples of LeBron misrepresenting himself like claiming the godfather was his favorite movie, but not knowing a single line carrying the autobiography of Malcolm X to interviews without being able to discuss it and even saying he predicted

Colby's 81 point game. These moments made Russ view LeBron as inauthentic. An authentic. Hey. I thought everybody got along, huh? I thought everybody got along. So now when I hear Russell,

Russibrook saying, I also heard LeBron's, I mean, LeBron, I heard Stephen A say the same thing in some clips I saw today, when I was flying in today, I flew in from Columbus. I did some shoot with, Jeremiah Smith today and I

saw the same like, well damn, the same thing you just said or Russell Westbrook just said it was Stephen A just said he was doing behind closing doors as well and I listen when you as it's powerful

as powerful you don't you don't reach that level of that height of fame and in I don't know that's one that's hard for me to gay because all I know is being me all I know is being me authentically myself

whether you like it or not I did it in the NFL there were rules there were certain rules you had to buy by I chose not if it if it meant doing it your way and I couldn't truly be

my authentic self that means it won't work for me which is why I never changed what I was playing so that same person you get on the field the same person you get off the field I can't be anyone else but myself I'm not an actor

ain't no cameras rolling what you see is what you get so I mean I understand what Westbrook is talking about in a sense but I'm not in their world I don't get to see the wrong all the time I don't get to interact with them

I'm not on the team so I'm the time that I do see him is well what's up boy it's good to see you and I'm gone so it's hard for me you would be better you know better verse to be disgustness than me all I know how

how he is with me. I've never had a conversation with LeBron about anything else other than LeBron. That's it. When people ask me how somebody is, what, man, what's magic like? What's magic like with me or what would he be like with you? Was LeBron like with me or what would he be like with you?

That's all I can speak to. I've never asked LeBron one question about any other player. We talk about shoes. we talk about, we talk, you know, Nicky next door. Great game, blah, blah, blah. I shoot him, you know, text, DM, blah, blah, blah. Hey, he's shoot back.

That's it. That's it. I don't, I don't know what his relationship was with Russ. I don't know what his relationship with his Stephen A. When Stephen A and I talk about LeBron, it's on camera. We were debating a topic about LeBron. That's it. He'll tell you, I don't talk about LeBron.

that's it um if he feels that way i don't know i can't tell you guys how russ should have felt that's how russ felt russ felt like he was saying one thing publicly he was doing something else privately that that's that's that's russ experienced with with lebron stephen a felt he was saying one thing steven a said hey i know for a fact it's gotten back to me that he's tried to do things to try to prevent me from getting my money. I don't know. What y'all want me to? Damn.

I don't have that type of relationship with any professional athletes so I could be the definitive one way or another. I don't. Like I said, people are like, oh, you're on LeBron and play role. Well, hell, I wish over the last five or six months they'd been shooting your boy something. I show could have used it. But no,

I get, listen, I've dealt with that because, oh, oh, oh, the character, yes, yes, um, was a character that I created. Just like Dave Chappelle created all those characters, just like Eddie Murphy created all those characters. anybody that knows me, knows what I am like off camera. Yeah. I'm quiet. Mm-hmm.

I'm talking about boring. I am the most outgoing introvert you're going to me. I have an outgoing personality. When I'm out and about, I know how to mingle. But for the most part, I would prefer to be home, secluded, by myself. Yes, everybody. Everybody that knows me

know what was a character. Yeah, same. Everybody knew that, just like they knew Ocho Cinco was a character. Okay. Oh, that's fake. You're like, bro, come on. If I rock which, I rock, which, if I don't,

I don't. And if I don't, you're not. If I don't rock, which I ain't going to be, If I don't rock with you, if we're at somewhere, if we're at an event together, ain't no, hey, man, what up, bro, how you do it? It ain't none of that. I don't rock with you. I don't rock with you.

That's how it is. And there are people that, you know, you were cool with once. Everybody is not going to have a, you're not going to have a lifelong relationship with everybody that you come in contact with. There are people that you met in high school, Locho. that was as far as that friendship was supposed to go. People that you met in college

that was as far as it was supposed to go. People that you met in the league. Some people you meet for six months. Bro. Damn. Some people here for a season. Just a season. That's it.

And you got to be okay with that, Ocho. You got to be okay with that. And look, like, like I said, I don't, man, what's LeBron like? Man, I don't hang out with LeBron like that. I go to the game. We talk. I've got invited to a couple of events that he put on.

Some I was able to attend. Some I wasn't. Hey, man, how you doing? Man, Savannah. Hey, Savannah, how you doing? Met his mom blow. Same thing. Kevin the Rand, mom. If I see her somewhere, like we're best friends. But I don't know Katie like that. I don't know any

other, I don't know any professional athlete like that. None. Zero. and I'm okay with that. I'm cool, I'm cordial, I'm respectful, but I keep it moving. I don't know what y'all want me to have some intel. I was never at LeBron's house or anything like that. I don't know him like that.

I don't know anybody like that. I'm not a go to people's house. Don't you? 14 years in league. I went to Ray's house. On the 08. A couple of times. No.

when he was in Baltimore. I went to, I used to go to a teammates of my, Reggie Johnson, his girlfriend, Moe, the one after Cook. I used to go to his, go to his place. He's like, hey, Moe Cookin tonight, come over. We go over, play cars, roll dice, whatever the case it may be. And I went to Burns house. That's it.

We go, you know, if I go to a guy's house, go downstairs, we roll in dice on the pool tape. I ain't, I ain't, that's not what we did. growing up as a kid, so I was never those guys that just go over the people's house and hang out. I ain't me.

I'm thinking my time in Cincinnati. I was always at P. Dubhouse. When I first got there, I was always at Peter Warwick House. Outside of that, because I knew I knew Dubb, Florida boy, Dian Manatee. I mean, I just, I already knew who he was.

It was someone I looked up to and respected as a receiver. And I just hung out. I hung out of a dove house. That was it. I ain't really go to nobody else's house. Yeah. Now, hell, I ain't go to Carson House until, yeah, but maybe three years ago.

That's my first time going to Carson House. We filmed something with NFL films. That was it. I ain't go to nobody house. Uh-uh. You know, everybody, everybody in the league just got, we can, look, teammates, we can be friendly, we ain't got to be friends. I ain't, I ain't that type of, I don't really like going to people's house anyway.

I'm having something. Oh, okay. Who cook it? I don't care what you're having. Who cook it? Nah. So. But it seems like, man, when it rains, it pours.

You know, Stephen A. said what he said, and now this is coming out. Would I be surprised if something else come out? It's going to be a trickle effect, huh? Because once people have, once people have, have the Cohornes you have Stephen A now you have Russell Westbrook and then other people are going to have their stories as well

Yep None would probably hold That's generally how it works None will probably hold the weight Of two individuals like a Westbrook That is well respected or Stephen A Who I assume is well respected But it's gonna happen

It's gonna happen Mm-hmm. Ocho's time for play or fade presented by prize pick. Animation. Thank you. Finally. All right, Ocho. Here's our pick for Flex.

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because you know, you'd be skimping on the graphics when I start doing when I start women. Jimmy Butler said all the chaos in Miami last season paid off and he's glad to finally be a part of an organization with no hidden agendas. All that noise, all that chaos, paid off in a major way.

I'm lucky to be a part of this phenomenal organization. Everywhere starts off great, but then you know someone has to be the bad guy, and it gets to be me. I'm always one doing something unbearable all of a sudden, but that's okay. I get to play in this wonderful league with amazing, with amazing teammates,

but being here, they've only got one goal to keep hanging those things up on the wall. Ain't no hidden agendas. Hey, what did you think, Coach? I'm not sure what's going on internally, you know, with Jimmy. Obviously, we've heard the stories on the way Pat Riley runs his organization. He's not been in, no matter who you are. No matter what.

So I guess that would be somewhat maybe part of the hidden agenda, but the agenda is not hidden. It's known. Yeah, you already know, Pat, it's going to be past way. It's always been his way, you know, and I mean, I'm. But let me ask you a question. Chicago, what happened in Chicago? Oh, I don't know. I wasn't now.

Okay, what happened in Minnesota? Oh, yeah, he didn't want to be there. Okay, Philly. I think he wanted to come back to Philly. Philly wanted Ben Simmons because they thought Ben Simmons and Joe L and B was a better match. Okay, fine. I ain't got no problem with that. You went to Miami, no state taxes.

You got your money. Damn, Jimmy. You knew, first of all, if that man didn't, Accuess to LeBron, who won two league MVPs, went to four finals, two final MVP's. You thought what? Tell me what you think. Tell me your thought process. He took that man cookies, huh? By what I wish somebody would take my cookies, I don't care who you is.

You are not, you are not the authoritar. Get my cookies back, play, boy. Yeah, I don't, don't look. Whatever I bring on that plane, that's mine don't F with it whatever I break look okay if you don't want to have them serve food that that's that but if I bring it on there that's me

that's me and don't let it be oh I hope what if what is they with freshly baked too freshly baked in the I don't I don't care if they're in the five day aisle they hard as bricks

they mine I Ocho you don't play with nobody food. I don't know where they do that at. No. Hey, maybe, hey, I don't, I don't, I don't play with nobody food. I don't, hey, you know, hey, you go eat that and touch somebody. I don't, I don't play

them games like that. I don't, I don't do that. I don't know. Hey, Pat Riley might be part of the mob. I don't know what Pat Riley, but I tell you, he might be part. But look, that's, you know, you have a different mindset when I guess basketball players have a different mindset. And look, if you don't want to serve, look, I've been in a situation.

We lost and we didn't get, we didn't get lunch. You had to go out and get our own lunch, so you had to go to McDonald's or a burger care, whatever the case may be. I get that. But let me bring my lunch and be in my locker. And that's why ain't nobody,

boy, please. We don't have to tuss for this. Yeah. So I don't know, I mean, D. Wade told a story, I guess. I don't know if they, if they had, they used to bring cookies on the plane for the players or LeBron had brought cookies for them to warm up. I don't really know. I remember the story D. Wade told.

He said LeBron's to bring his own. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't, like I said, I don't know, I don't know if like they said, nah, ain't nobody getting no cookies. Okay, fine. that's their cookie. Yeah, I've been mad too, fine.

But if it's my cookies, I brought them. I said, hey, because you know a lot of times, don't you know, it used to be, you know, you'd ask the flight attendants to bring you stuff and they would bring it. You know, you give them a couple of dollars, shoot them a couple of dollars, a couple of extra dollars,

get what you need. They bring it on the plane for you. Man, please. I'm happy, look. At the end of the day, everybody should be where they work, they should be happy. Now, it's hard.

I mean, everybody ain't going to be happy on the job because everybody ain't happy to be working at that job. Everybody don't get to do what they love, we got an opportunity to do what we love. We love playing the game of football. It was a kid's game where we got played a grown man's salary to do it.

Everybody's not working. Bet nine to five, they're like, but I can't wait for this. I can't wait for this day to be over with. I ain't never think that. In my 14 years old show, I'd never thought, man, I should be glad when the day old were.

I enjoyed getting up going to work and never set an alarm. I ain't never had them alone. I love it. But to each is old, I'm glad, look, Jimmy, I'm happy that you're happy. And at the end of the day, you would step and Draymond,

y'all got a great chance. You get Kaminga back. He stayed. Let's see. If it works out for everybody. Hey, wait. Oh, I was going to say they ain't got no big. They got Draymond.

What? He undersized, though. Who? Dremont. I was going to say, them making a run. I say, I've said they ain't got no damn big. No.

All right. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Uh, Deshaun Allen. What's up, Uncan Ocho? Give me your top five players who had the best dance celebration. Chew, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, and Ocho. Top five dance, Victor Cruz.

I'm going number one. You got to say that. Victor Cruz, Salsa. Who, Dan, they dancing. That's like, that's hard to remember, man. I mean, you got to, I mean, T.O. got to be in there somewhere. Yeah, T. T didn't really do any dances, though. Maybe when he, hey, when they played the Baltimore Ravens and he hit that goddamn

Ray Lewis, but that shit was funny as hell. Hey, that joke was funny, boy. Tio. It was. Hey, Antonio Brown, Antonio Brown did a Miami dance we got here. Yeah. Yeah. That was funny.

Yeah. Who else? Uh, what about, uh, what about, uh, OBJ? Hey, OBJ got some good ones. OBJ, OBJ, OBJ, he did the thrill of. Michael Jackson, yeah, we did the Michael Jackson. It was really dope. Uh, trying to think who five would be.

You like the Iggy Shuffle? Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, it's shovel's cool. That's iconic. That's iconic. That's my five. I like what they do now. I like when they, the teams, if you'd be rowing the boat or, you know, the Vikings or the dogs.

offense on Detroit. I like, I like, I like, I like the group celebration down. You see Jemir Gibbs and, um, Amarra tonight? Oh, yeah. Ross, St. Brown, he hit the spot a man. He dove over the top of it. Like superman. I'm like, hey, hey, they're boys funny, man. That was funny. That was funny. I did. I did see that. That's, that was cool. That's all right. Uh, El Prey, say, Hey, Uncle Nocho, Bench Cup. First, Michelle and Diego,

cello, Maxwell. Mississippi Mads Quire. Hey, I could say I. Ocho, you got Diego Maradonna, Edison, Savannah, or Fabio Canavaro. Well, I'm starting. I'm starting by the don't I.

Oh, man. Man, look here, Ojo. I'm sorry. Michelle Andego Cello. He's not over to Mississippi Mass Choir. Oh, Joe? Boy, you tripping, boy. Listen, when you go to bed

tonight, make sure you say a prayer. Now, I know, hey, listen. Well, you know what? I'm cutting Diego Maradona. I'm cutting Diego Maradona. Uh-huh, my boy, you heard me. Wait. Hold on.

Wait, wait, listen, Madadona is a legend in his own right in comparison to the other two Maradona of the Argentine. Hey, Mississippi Madsquire, don't let nobody hear you say that. I know the Mississippi Massquire. Don't let nobody hate you say.

But you don't. Don't do that. Come on. You remember the song? I told you. I remember the words. I got it. I got to say it in my library.

But we talk about Mississippi Mass Choir. Yeah, come on, man. We talk about Mosey Berks, the legendary. When I rose this morning, I ain't tired yet. Come on, man. Stop playing. I'm sorry, Ocho. I got a, I got a, I got to start, Michelle.

I got a bench Maxwell. And you cutting the Mississippi Madsquire? Oh, hey, boy, a. Father, forgive me. Boy, you tripping. Boy, you are tripping. No, uh, only, uh, messy might be, I don't know. I think it's close

between Messi and Maradona and Argentina. He didn't, he didn't, well, obviously, Messi is. But he did win the World Cup with the handball. Yeah, but listen. Messy, messy is a great. I was old enough to remember.

You don't remember. I didn't know the God. I remember that. I remember. Yes. I forgot what year that was. I think it was 86. Yeah.

I mean, obviously, it should have been a call. It was a clear handball, but, a messy is is how you first of all how you put think about it how you put Maxwell

Michelle dego in cello and the Mississippi mass choir you got to have James Cleveland Shirley Caesar in the Mississippi Mass Choir or the Mighty Clives of Joy or or Alabama

the five blind boys anybody that grew up in the church or knows of about gospel music, even with the comparisons of Maxwell and... No, you can... So you get soccer players, and then I get R&B and Neil's soul in a gospel group.

Hey, listen, Missy and Mads Choir come before any and everybody. Any and everybody. No. Now, if you want to give me the Mississippi Mads Choir, the Mighty Clouds of Joy, James Cleveland, Shirley Caesar, you want to give me something like that. Now I can make a, I can say, okay, but you're going to give me two Neo Soul

and then you're going to give me a gospel group. El Pracen-Ocho, when was the last time you visited Paula and Granny? Have you heard or got that confirmation you've been waiting from your two angels? No, sure did. And, you know, I'm glad you asked me that. I haven't been in a while since I talked about it. I haven't been in a while. I'm going to go tomorrow because tomorrow's tomorrow.

Tomorrow's my off day. I'm just getting back in town. And that's that's tough. That's tough. That's tough visiting that site, especially waiting on that sign. Ain't got nothing yet. A lot of people say, oh, you see. I mean, they give me a sign.

You just don't see it. But I'm so routine and where I do the same thing daily, anything different than what I do or any message I may see, I haven't gotten it. I haven't gotten it, but, yeah, I'm like, give me Mahalia Jackson. Ooh, what you know about Mahalia Jackson, man? Come on, man. What you know about the upper room?

Need all that. Texans' offense can block eight against four and still lose the battle somehow like WTF, garbage coaching and talent combined equals Texans blocking. Yeah, there was, there was some time. I was like, bro, y'all will let the guy, y'all got two guys on one guy and let one guy run scot-free. true.

Breer Carter said, y'all need to change the pod from morning cap to morning cap or late night cap starting at 1.30 for us on the East Coast. Y'all need to blame the NFL. You can see like we wanted to come on. I got a flight. I got to catch you in the morning.

That's the NFL's fault. Bible Patel said, where all those people glazing Baker-Mayfield for MVP, he overthrew receivers all night. He had a bad night. Sam, see, Sam Donald had a bad night too. And that's going to happen. That's going to happen.

I mean, look, every MVP has had a game where he didn't look like MVP. T.S. Car Wash and Detail Service. Say what happened to Mike Evans, Unk or Ocho, have you ever stood next to Yao Ming, Bobo, Wembe, them some tall humans. I have not.

All of those guys that you mentioned are taller than Shaq. I stood next to Shaq. So I think Yal mean it's like 7-6. I think Wimba's like 75. I think Bo-Bow-Bow. No. Bo-Bow-Bow-Bow is like 7-2. I thought for a second, I thought he said Minute Boat,

because I think Minute is like 7-7. What's that guy named? Uh. Mabadoo injot. That's his name? He likes, yeah. Remember the guy we saw at the fight? Okay.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were sitting down. Yes. I think he's like seven. Isn't he like seven, seven? Saw your car. You remember Josh Kribs, as Unk would say, that Joker could move.

Yeah, he was a returner for the Browns. War number 16. Yeah. Josh was nice. Oh, yeah. Mr. Righteous, celebrating my 20th birthday with Nightcap, here is hopefully to many more. Happy birthday, Mr. Righteous, yes.

Happy 20th birthday. Almost, almost, almost can get you a drink. But you can't just yet. We've had facts, Ocho, I know you got an eye for good eats. When you go to San Francisco, what Michelin Star restaurant do you recommend? Man, Ocho ain't eating it on Michigan Star. Ocho think Michelin is tires. And the only, only Michel that I know is tires.

Shoot, I don't, hey, bro. No, this night, I don't eat like that, bro. I don't eat like that, boss, man. And truly, truly don't. Uh, Mario Chiquito, what's up, uh, and Ocho, love y'all. Ocho, I need you to put a good word in at E or over at EA to show some love to J.S.N. Madden rating. Oh, yeah. What, rock running should be 99. I don't know what his rate overall rating is. Yeah, we're going to get him together. We're going to get him together. And we got a few people we got to get together.

Not only him, we got to get J.C. Horn together. We got to do something with Jonathan Taylor. Um, we got to do something with Jamir Gibbs. It's a few quarterbacks, especially Daniel Jones. We need to take care of Daniel Jones. Oh, yeah, yeah. We need to get some touch-ups on real quick. David Jones, oh, I know everyone jokes about Trent Delford, but he's a Super Bowl winning quarterback.

He's not Elway, but what are some of the positive things you learn from him? Look, Trent knew what he was. He didn't try to be John. That's not what he was. He knew where to go to football. He studied very, very hard, and guys got open. He got him to football. That's the thing that I love most about what I love most about Trent,

is that he knew what he was, but he also knew what he wasn't. Tim's bed said, oh, I got my Shabal-Laporteur to celebrate my birthday on the 22nd. Do y'all think it's time for the Cardinals to start thinking about making a switch at quarterback because Kyler can't make it through a full season. Small man. When big man land on small men, things happen. Damn. I mean, it's just hard to be successful.

I mean, long-term success with your Super Bowl. I mean, Kyle's what, 5, 10, 200 pounds? I think, you know, same thing with Bryce Young. he at least uh uh uh uh collie is kind of sturdy built any fast what's it called him bryces thing bria carter thoughts on brandon graham unretiring they needed a pass rusher uh zedaria smith retired abruptly they thought they had a guy that could help uh hey i don't think they're done.

Hey, reach out to see if the Raiders will let Max Crosby go. Oh, that's not fair. Do I try? I would try. Who else got somebody that might be, you know? Ooh, that wouldn't be fair.

Could you imagine? Mm-hmm. Hey, I call Cleveland. Hey, what y'all want to do with Miles Garrett? Y'all ain't doing nothing with him over there. he ain't going to win. He got his money. He already got the contract.

Yeah, he got the contract. Now go somewhere where you can win. We've had facts, what is it going to take for the Ravens to come back alive? I can't do this anymore. Lamar Jackson is going to have to come back and the defense is going to have to play considerably better than what they're playing currently.

And I don't even know if that's possible, don't you know. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank you guys. It's nice like this. We really appreciate your support and stand up. We know it's really, really late on the East Coast. Obviously, there are people still on the East Coast that are up listening and watching us.

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