Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Spirit Airlines bankruptcy, dine and dash, cost of living

Episode Date: November 23, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top pop culture moments of the week. Top stories include Spirit Airlines filing for bankruptcy, 16 people pulled a dine and dash, a man fakes ...his own death and flees the country which sparks a bigger debate about cost of living and much more!03:10 - Spirit Airlines is preparing to file bankruptcy…Ocho responds05:30 - Story goes viral of 16 people dine and dashing15:15 - Man fakes death to leave his family. This leads to a larger conversation from Unc and Ocho on cost of living.(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:52 A lot of people don't understand that. 50 Cent is filed for bankruptcy. Donald Trump is filed for bankruptcy. There are some other people of status that are filed for bankruptcy. And it's a way to get out of having to pay a large debt that you, that you just don't want to pay or you can't pay. But Spirit Airlines will still be going on as far as running a business and still being the best airline there is to fly. Nah.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I want you all to think about sending you a couple of these. Hey, hey, hey, right. Not you too soon, too soon. I just, I ain't. I ain't sending you nothing. I ain't finna help you. Get back, get back, go work your situation out. That's what you do.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Well, you talk about, you talk about sending me something. I mean. Yeah, for, for, for, for, for, for, you know, in the situation you in, I ain't finna help you do nothing else. You are too fine. Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not thinking about, I'm not thinking about nothing else.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Well, I ain't thinking about you, then. Okay, no, I'm just saying, my focus don't work right now, huh? Well, you can do two things at once. Well, not really, cause I can't chew gum and walk. Well, hey, we're just staying in one place and chewing. Yeah, yeah, well, I. Well, I'm here. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:06:06 So maybe, maybe, maybe February after Super Bowl. You know, I, you know. No, she gonna be there. Super Bowl. Who? Who gonna be where? I got a restraining order. Well, I'm gonna undo it.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Hey, chat. Chat, what y'all doing? Chat y'all good? Hey, I wish, you know, it'd be dope. Like if we could see the people in the chat and they could see us and we could see them and we can get their reactions while we talking. Like technology is as advanced as it is. The fact that I can't see the people and engage in conversation to see their expressions I don't like that that maybe that's something we need to invent
Starting point is 00:06:49 okay yeah that's something we need to invent. Oh Joe check this out there was a situation where 16 people dined and dashed on a $420 restaurant bill. 420 people, 16 people, the average cost is $26.25. So as the lady was explaining, person by person would pretend like they were getting up to lead, like they were getting ready to go to the bathroom or something like that.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And each one, they left. Why y'all do that? I wish I, see, man, listen, and see, and you wonder why I tip the way I do when I go out, when I do happen to go places, see, stuff like this. Like that's the point is if you don't have the money to eat, if you don't have the money to tip, you know, at least leave something, man, but don't dine and dash.
Starting point is 00:07:37 You know, leave these. Yeah, come on, watch out. There are the services, these people rely on these tips, man. These people rely on these tips because they don't. Even if you don't tip, pay for the ish that you ate. Pay for the stuff that you drank. Okay, you don't wanna leave a tip, but you know, hey, it's normally on the thing.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Parties of six or more, you got it, it's gonna charge you 18%, so forth and so on. Okay, I get that. Let's just say it's two people. Don't do that. If you don't wanna tip and it's two of you guys, three of you guys, that get that. Let's just say it's two people. Don't do that. If you don't want to tip and it's two of you guys, three of you guys, that's fine. But don't you take your ass to these people's restaurant
Starting point is 00:08:11 and eat their food and then run up out of there. $26 a piece. Damn. 400 on a $400 town. Really people? Really? Really? See Really? Really? See what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:27 See how bad times are? See what I mean? Great story to piggyback. That ain't about no time. That's people not being jacked. See? You right. They was being jacked.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I bet there was some kids, huh? No, them grown people, Ocho. It was? Yes. Grown. You already know. I only need to tell you, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Oh, us? You know. Damn. Damn. $26. Damn. $26, Ocho? Yeah, you right, you right, you right, you right, you right, you right. That's not something that you decide.
Starting point is 00:09:16 You made a con, when you walked into that restaurant, you already know you were going to eat the people's ass and you was going to do what you did. I just hate that. I really do, Ocho. I hate... I mean, I've been in a situation like, been in the Whole Foods, and the guy, homeless guy come in there, bro, I'm like, bro.
Starting point is 00:09:37 And he all, I say, bro, don't touch. I say, what you need? I get it for you. Pay for the stuff, they grab stuff, they chase somebody, I pay for it. Just let them have it, let them go. Don't do this, don't do people stuff like that. Come on people.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I'm not gonna say we better than that, cause we not. We are who we are, Ocho. What we see, that's who we are as a society. We've gotta stop thinking that this is so beneath us as a society. No, this is exactly who we are the society. We've got to stop thinking that this is so beneath us as a society No, this is exactly who we are the society It is it is sad. Yeah Time haven't got that hard
Starting point is 00:10:15 That 16 people decide to go out to eat in each one of you guys say, you know what? No, I ain't gonna I don't play Even if I'm with a party on show, and we go out, I pay for it before I let somebody do that bull job. But I used to go out with the guys like, all right, hey, hey, check this out, bro. You did that bull job last time.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Yeah, not this time. Go in your back pocket, bro, could bring your ass. Right. Every time we go out, all of a sudden you get, all of a sudden you gotta go to the bathroom. It can wait. Come on. That's, that's a shit, that's embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:10:59 That's embarrassing. I wouldn't even, I couldn't even good conscious do that, Ocho, cause it's not like, it's not, that's probably not a chain restaurant. It's not like they like one of these big, they doing 30 million in revenue. Yeah. You know, a lot of these places, oh Joe, they just making just enough. Just enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And then somebody could, I just hate it, man. I hate it. I just hate it, man. I hate it. I just... It was in Memphis at a Mexican restaurant? Let's find a restaurant. I'll send them something. We're going to find out a restaurant. I'm going to send them something. I'll take care of it.
Starting point is 00:11:44 That's a shame. I'm gonna send them something. I'll take care of it. That's a shame. I just, I hate people. I just hate people that pray on the, I just hate people that pray on the week old Joe. That's always been a pet people mind. Yeah. See, you see how you be getting on me by tipping like that?
Starting point is 00:11:59 Now you see why. Dang. I don't care if you didn't have anything but water to drink. Lisa, ma. Yeah, come on. Just pay for your meal. Oh Joe, if you didn't wanna leave the chip. Like I said, normally, I ain't been to every restaurant,
Starting point is 00:12:21 but normally when they say parties of six or more, it's already 18% gratuity built in. You got 16 people. Y'all eat them people food. I'm sure everybody didn't drink water. And you just eat the people food and just walk up out of there. And y'all thought that was okay. Y'all thought that was cute. Dang. I was premeditated on. For sure. For sure. I mean, I was at Target and the guys. RJ.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Yeah, yeah. And you know, he had stuff, I mean, he had more. I think he had like some coupons and stuff like that. But anyway, he didn't have enough. And I said, bro, bro, I ain't got time for you to take that back. Don't even worry about it. Just take your money, I'll pay for it.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Just put the stuff in the bag, I'll pay for it, man. Just keep running up and put it on mine. Right. And I mean, man'll pay for it, man. Just keep running up and put it on mine. Right. You know, man, man, I appreciate it. Bro, just get the stuff and go, man. For you to take it back. I ain't got that kind of time. Right, right. I'm going from point A to point B.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I don't do no, you know how some people go to the grocery store and they just like, no, I know exactly what I'm gonna get. And getting up out of there. And getting up out of there. And get up out of there. And when I get to the thing, oh, I hate, you know what I hate? I don't know if I'm gonna get these,
Starting point is 00:13:57 but how much of these? Put it in the bag, put it in the bag, just put it in the bag. I got you. Oh, oh, oh, I gotta go. I forgot something. I got it. Oh, no. Shoot, that Target as big as that place is.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Oh, Lord have mercy. Talk about I'd be right back. But I've done that. I won't tell Mocho. I can't lie. I did that one time. I forgot done that. I won't tap on you. I can't lie. I did that one time. I forgot my wallet. Hmm.
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Starting point is 00:18:49 Wasabi hot cloud storage. Store more and do more with your data. Try them for free at wasabi.com. A Wisconsin man apparently took out a $375,000 life insurance policy, faked his own drowning so he could abandon his family and flee to Europe. Ocho, would you fake your own death? Absolutely not. I mean, he faked his death, tried to get away from his wife, get away from his kids.
Starting point is 00:19:25 For one, I'm not faking my death because I love my kids. I wanna be, you know, have too much fun with them. But he must've been miserable. He must've been really miserable. You know how bad it has to be as a family man with kids and a wife to fake your death and wanna leave and use insurance money.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Like think, like logically think about that. It has to be really bad. I'm trying to figure out how long he thought, Ocho, how long he thought 375, were you gonna get another job or something? Well, it depends on his lifestyle. It depends on how he lived. You know, 375 could be a fortune to some people,
Starting point is 00:20:05 especially if you live way below your means or you're not a spender like that. Well, you gotta pay rent. Do they have a place already paid for? Is he gonna get a car? You gotta understand, everybody don't move like that. You feel me? Some people could spend-
Starting point is 00:20:22 So how you gonna get around? You just gonna walk? I mean, you going to the UK. What? He in Europe, huh? He was moving somewhere in Europe. Like, you get your little moped, you good. Okay, but what you gonna eat? Where you gonna live?
Starting point is 00:20:37 Some of the people don't even make 375,000 in their lifetime. I'm sure he was gonna be straight now. Come on now. Yeah, somebody that works a minimum wage job, yeah, if you work at a fast food chain, probably, maybe not. But I'm just saying, I don't know how old he was, Ash. He looked like he about it.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, he spends 20,000 a year. He is in his mid 40s. He spent 20,000 a year. Yeah. In 20 years, that's gone. That's just, and He's been 20,000 a year. Yeah. In 20 years, it's gone. That's just if he just spent 20,000. Can you live off 20,000 a year?
Starting point is 00:21:11 Who? Ocho Cinco. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I made that big press. I can make it. Listen, I can stretch a hot dog. You cannot.
Starting point is 00:21:20 You want to bet? You cannot. Did you hear what I just said? You cannot live off twenty thousand a year Ocho. Stop it. I can stretch a hundred dollars for a month. How you gonna tell me? So what you living? So how much is that apartment you got right now? Oh this ain't this ain't my place. The apartment that you've been flashing all the apartments you looking at How much they gonna call? Oh
Starting point is 00:21:46 That I can't just school and how much that is, but it's exactly Let's just say let's just say I'm gonna say oh Joe is go I'm concerned Miami concern I'm gonna say it's gonna cost you three thousand a month. That's thirty six thousand right there I like that without lights without anything you got a cell phone. That's got no huh? You got a cell phone Yeah, my cell phone free. I'm with AT&T. Okay Hey, wait, you have to say you thinking you thinking from your perspective too, you know, no Middle-aged white man, you know married three kids, you know, he living like that man he living like that oh Joe 375,000 is not a lot of money for a lifetime bro um you comparing these regular folks to you oh he's going to make 375 in they
Starting point is 00:22:37 like time I you will tell the average person makes 50,000 a year what are you talking about? What? Oh, boy, you out of touch with reality. What's the average salary? What's the average salary for an American? In this economy? The economy doesn't matter. No, you guys got to.
Starting point is 00:23:00 People are still making $48,000, $50,000 a year. No, they are not. No, they are not. No, they are not. Watch, tell Ash to look it up real quick. Boy, people out here struggling, boy. 50,000 a year will. Hold on, hold on, hold on. What is it?
Starting point is 00:23:18 Man, you tripping. According to the US Department of Labor, the average salary in 2023 was salary for... Go ahead. According to the US Bureau of Labor, the average US salary in 2023 was $59,384. That's average. Now, granted, that factors in the LeBron James, the Shohei Otani, and that factors in the people that's making 20,000. But even if you made 20,000 a year,
Starting point is 00:24:04 in 20 years, that's more than 375,000. So everybody, everybody struggling, but because the US department said, this is what everybody make, this is minimum. Okay, everybody's great. Now we got all the financial issues in the economy, but you listen to what that chart got on Joe listen Yes groceries are high grass prices are higher rent is higher that doesn't diminish what you make Yes, it costs more to live
Starting point is 00:24:39 Yes So that means we not make it enough right so you agree Yes, so that means we not make it enough right so you agree Oh, that's beside the point you said they're not making it all I'm saying is it cost more to live? So yes, it's gonna cost more The point the point of the matter was you said 375 went a lot so we don't know we don't know how this man lives He's going to Europe. He's going to Europe for one right stay with me now. Yes. He's going to Europe for one. Right? Stay with me now. Yes. He's going to Europe to live. So is he swimming?
Starting point is 00:25:07 If he's swimming, so how does he get to Europe? Come on man. I'm just asking. Because you say he's going to live modestly, so I'm just trying to figure out how he gets to Europe. Oh. You gotta stop throwing out all these hypotheticals, man. Trying to spend the man money now.
Starting point is 00:25:15 How the man get, I just want to know how he gets to Europe. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. I'm just asking.
Starting point is 00:25:23 I'm just asking. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. I'm how he gets to Europe. Oh. All right, you gotta stop throwing out all these hypotheticals, man, trying to spend the man money now. How the man get? I just wanna know how he gets to Europe. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how he gonna do it.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I just, listen, 375 is a lot of money. I don't care how you splicing, how you cooking. For a lifetime? For a lifetime? For a lifetime? Hey, you know some people in this world won't even see a million dollars? That ain't a, that's three, I said 375, I didn't say no million.
Starting point is 00:26:05 A million, 375, 500,000, what you, wait, see, you gotta touch for reality, man. Come on, man, gotta leave, man. Ocho, you. Now you actin' like 375 ain't no money cause you been makin' millions all these years. Ocho, I'm saying. You're not sayin' that kinda money in the regular world.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Ocho, I'm saying 375 to last you a lifetime. Yes, if he gets a job and lives modestly, that's one thing. You said the man can have 375 and he gonna be straight. Where? If you got people that would never see 375, you got somebody that gets a lump sum of 375 that lives below his means and lives the right way. In this economy? He's going to Europe.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Not here. Left. That economy worse than I was. What are you talking about? Where? And you- What? Where? And you're not. My mercy. We don't live over there, how you know?
Starting point is 00:27:15 I read. Oh, you can't listen, you can't listen, you can't listen, nothing they put out. Oh Lord, have mercy. You can't listen, nothing they put out. Okay. Hold on, hold on, let me do my little homework real quick. Go ahead. Hold on, I'm looking right now, hold on.
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Starting point is 00:28:30 Boy, hey, listen, some, y'all. Hold on, watch this. The cheapest cost of living in Europe. Damn. Damn what? They don't tell you the numbers. They just tell you where the cheapest places to go in Europe to live is. I mean, Portugal, Poland, Romania, Estonia, see, Athens, Greece, they're not giving me numbers on what you would need to live in these places.
Starting point is 00:29:11 That's something I would need to see. We need to come back to this topic because this is a great topic. This is the great topic because- What is the average? What part of Europe, okay, what part of Europe are you talking about? I don't, we don't talk with a man. Eastern Europe. Hello? Eastern about? I don't, we don't talk with a man. Eastern Europe. Eastern Europe.
Starting point is 00:29:28 We don't know. So that's 30. So hold on. So that's 30. So that's $37,500 a year. Now you said he's not, you said he can live off that. That means he's not getting a job and he's living at 37.5 a year. Why wouldn't he get a job?
Starting point is 00:29:42 Why wouldn't he have a job? Because that was the argument, Ocho. I said that's not a lot of money. Now, if he's going to get a job, yes. He's going to get a job. He ain't going to Europe like he's some damn, he just robbed a goddamn bank. Ocho. Ocho, huh, let me see. The man faked his death. So you think he's going to go get a job? Yes. Do you know how they do that? Yeah. You know how they get caught get a job yes do you know how they do that you know how they get caught you don't think you know how to create and create a new identity did you know how they did you see oh she's 11 okay yeah there's a man
Starting point is 00:30:18 huh looking for he's not there by looking for him and then about it how do you think we have in conversation, Ocho? His wife snitched on him. But you say there ain't nobody looking for him. No, I say his wife snitched on him. So how you think we having a conversation? So he gonna go get a job. Mate, you, right.
Starting point is 00:30:40 You don't understand how to. Oh, we got it, we got it. Hey, come on, come on down here, man, to the real world with us, with us regular folks. Ocho, Ocho, you talking to somebody that grew up, I understand, I do. But I also understand how I was living. How many people wants to live in a thousand,
Starting point is 00:31:01 1200 square foot with no end foot with minimal necessities. That's way back in the fifties, man. It was 2020. But you also have to understand, Ocho, think about what you were accustomed to. Right. That's what I'm saying. This man is on the run.
Starting point is 00:31:22 If you're on the run, how you gonna go get a job, Ocho? Do you know that you know how all the things that you can do on a black market to change your identity and be a completely new person in a new place? Um, I shouldn't, I don't, I'm, let me stop before I get myself in trouble. I ain't finished. I'm not sitting here and talking about that stuff on here. Cause I really shouldn't know nothing about it, but it's possible.
Starting point is 00:31:44 It's very possible. People do it all. it's possible It's very possible people do it all It's impossible, but you got to make it but oh Joe think about it Think about all the people that did things and with the countries hell They call the guy that killed he killed two police officers in DC. They found him in a hut in Africa Okay. Man. Bad leads, don't you? Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Yeah, if he wants a menial job, yes, but I'm saying, but you said 375 was a lot of money. To do what? To do nothing? I mean, listen, you talking to the cheapest dude in the world, man. Oh, no. So, a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:32:28 But we just had a conversation. Yeah. When you have no money coming in and it's going out. Right. That's all right. And I think with understanding, he knows he would have to have a job. Doing what?
Starting point is 00:32:41 How you gonna get? Yeah, if he gets a job that doesn't, maybe he gives a job that doesn't maybe he gives a job that doesn't require information. They're gonna pay you under the table. But okay, your identity. They post that because you know, they're gonna post it. Have you seen this guy? You know what? I work with a guy that looks just like him at the butchermar.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Or I work at a guy with him in the factory being what I'm Cina McFarland therapist life coach change agent who helps everyone from celebrities athletes to ex gang members through their addictions and help them wake up each episode by podcast we hear stories, we draw lessons from those who have made it through their addiction and recovery to a better place, including legendary boxer, heavyweight boxing champion Mike Tyson. I feel like there's always been a calling for you, something higher. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I always feel that way as well. But I guess everybody feels they it here for a reason. Yeah, okay. Even if it's to suffer to help other people understand suffering is not as bad as we believe it is. I believe everybody learns from each other. Why are you here, you think? To show people that you know anything's possible if you don't give up.
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Starting point is 00:37:15 One thing about it, we'll never know. Yeah, hell nah. I damn sure don't want to know how to live off. Oh, I already know. I'm not going to have to live off no 375 for the rest of my life. Hell nah. And then, Ocho, what happens when they freeze that, hopefully he got the check because they put,
Starting point is 00:37:37 where you gonna cash your American check at in the UK? Man, listen, hey, you saw the movie. It must be the cast, he must be the cast to check. Hey, you saw the movie. He must be the cast to check. He must be the cast to check. Hey, you saw the movie, Catch Me If You Can? Yeah, I do. Frank Abagnale. Yeah, I watched the movie. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Boy, so many things can do with that identity, man. I'm trying to figure out how y'all like, I'm trying to figure out how y'all talk about I moved the goalpost It's 375 for the rest of your life I'm just trying to figure out how I'm moving the goalpost. So where you living at what's your rent? Even even the dingy is place go charge you what let you go get what you go get army You know somebody they got a section that you compare what you prepare. Let's just say oh Joe you get one of these Thousand dollar thousand dollar a month Okay
Starting point is 00:38:42 That means you can only spend $37,500, Joe. Yeah. You ain't about to have no power. You ain't gonna have no air condition. You ain't gonna have no lights. What you gonna eat? There's a way, because before you figured that, you already have a format and a plan out.
Starting point is 00:39:00 You got everything already planned out before you do all that. So, I don't know what his plan was. I'm not sure if he made it. I'm not sure how he got caught, but it's something that happens all the time. This might, this just happened to be the one who did get caught. Well, I'm just trying to figure it out. But look, I understand there's like, yeah, if you lived in miss, I'm just trying to figure it out. But look, I understand there's like, yeah, if you lived in,
Starting point is 00:39:27 I'm trying to think if you lived in Mississippi, but still, I mean, I understand the cost of everything is elevated. So when you factor the cost of everything is elevated and you weigh that by making $37,500 a year, that's the problem where people are struggling, Ocho. It's not the fact that, okay, we're not, because they say people that make 150,000
Starting point is 00:39:52 is basically living check to check in America because eggs and bread and everything is elevated. Price of gas is elevated. The cost of buying a home is elevated. The price to rent a home or an apartment is elevated. So if everything is elevated, the cost of buying a home is elevated, the price to rent a home or apartment is elevated. So if everything is elevated, it's not that people aren't making money, it's just it costs more to live. So if it's costing you if a hundred and fifty thousand and have some people, I'm not saying all, I don't you know
Starting point is 00:40:21 obviously you're probably living someplace like San Francisco or what a New York or something like that. Oh Joe, you know I'm saying we're rent, you know, you're paying 3,000 4,000 5,000 dollars a month in rent Yeah, just imagine if you play in 5,000 a month in rent Mmm UK UK a cheap oldcho, it's not. I don't know, I don't know, is everybody living in the UK ain't living like ****? No, everybody in America ain't living Ocho, why you think people complaining? I'm just saying. Hell if I made, Ocho, if I made $50,000 a year
Starting point is 00:41:06 and gas was $1.33 a gallon and I could get three loaves of bread, that's something entirely different. Think about what it cost to buy a house back in the 60s. Think about what it cost to buy a car in the 60s. You could buy a car, you could buy a house. I mean, now a house is a car. Yeah, yeah. You ain't buy no three I mean, now a house is a car. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:26 You ain't buy no three bed room, two bath house for no 60 grand yet. That's what it costs. And your monthly payment would probably $75, $80 a month. You gotta live within your means. Live within your means and act your wage. As I say it all the time, if you got a certain amount coming in,
Starting point is 00:41:47 if you have a lump sum coming in, you have a plan to live within that means and make that stretch. All I'm saying is, people, if I gave you guys 300, let's just say somebody gave you 375,000, you retiring? Because if that's a lot of money, you can retire. Kick your feet off like I'm good. Hey, people in the chat, they rich.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Because everybody said 375,000 ain't no $%&$ money. Ocho, when you, Ocho, you talking about for the rest of your life, Ocho. See, I think you getting confused talking about 375,000 a year. I'm talking about for the rest of your life. The rest of your natural life somebody tell me I'm gonna flip it but you gonna be back to work tomorrow you gonna be ready to work tomorrow because if that's all your money you got if you
Starting point is 00:42:41 willing to risk it I already know what you about to do. Somebody say he- I don't know, where you gonna be at tomorrow? Back, back working. Hey, yo, Ocho, who taking, Ocho, who taking their last and try to flip it? Who taking their last and try to flip it? Man. Hey boy, y'all here boy.
Starting point is 00:43:23 35% of the people say no, they couldn't live off 375 for the rest of their life. Hey, oh Joe, they, hey, what they will do. They go play our parlay. They go play our drafty parlay. Like I'm look, I mean, the thing was, oh Joe, if you look at it, the way we grew up in the house we had, we didn't have to pay rent on it. But you know, my grandmother living off $197 every two months, you're going to have to
Starting point is 00:43:53 eat, you're going to have to do some, because I remember, man, I ain't eat no, so if your mom or your grandma bringing in $197 every two weeks, you tell me what, what, what steak in realms you think you eat. Right. Oh man, that was funny. Yeah, what's wrong? People, people forget, Ocho. I think people forget.
Starting point is 00:44:18 I think people look at us now and what they see if they see Shannon. Now, I know what it's like to make $25. I know what it's like to make a hundred dollars a week. I do. I know that's not a lot of money. And I know what the cost of things now, I'm like, well, damn.
Starting point is 00:44:40 And that's what people are having a problem with. It's not that they're not making more money, it's that the cost of living is going up and it's eating into the money that they're making. So if I'm making this, Ocho, I don't want prices to stuff that I need to do this also. I need my money to go this way and I need like, y'all be graduate with bread and gas
Starting point is 00:45:04 and food prices. I need to create hell. Let's move it up at the same place. Oh, I got to get some tissue. Y'all got me crying. Man, somebody to my mood to Uganda. Oh boy, see if he go flip it, it's all gonna be right back right back to work tomorrow. Yeah. Okay. Okay, okay, man, please.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I bet, look, I know what stuff talk, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not naive. I got a lot of, I've got a lot of households to fill. Oh man. Oh boy, I needed that laugh. Hey, but you know what? Next time my employees come out, they need a raise. I'm like, hey, the chancellor, y'all can live off 37,500 a year.
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Starting point is 00:48:02 podcasts. Hey, this is Kyle Brantz. You're busy. I'm busy. podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. for 10 takes. Taking a smoke break. You still smoke? You got time for 10 takes. Hiding in the bathroom at work? You got time for 10 takes. Listen to 10 takes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Wasabi hot cloud storage. Store more and do more with your data. Try them for free at wasabi.com. What's up everybody? It's Peter Schrager. We're back for the season with Peter Schrager. In episode of the season I'm gonna empty my proverbial notebook and take you inside and behind the scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises you see you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week but the next week you're gonna be at a bar elbow to elbow with some of
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