Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Steelers HIRE Mike McCarthy as HEAD COACH + Eagles SEARCHING for new Offensive Coordinator + Philip Rivers HEAVY FAVORITE to LAND as Bills Head Coach + Stefon Diggs FAIR TALE Season

Episode Date: January 26, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Pittsburgh Steelers have hired Mike McCarthy as their next head coach, the Philadelphia Eagles are still looking for their next offensive coordinator, and Phillip Rivers is a real possibility as the next head coach for the Buffalo Bills and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 1:27 - Steelers hire Mike McCarthy as next head coach19:57 - Eagles still looking for OC29:34  - Big possibility Philip Rivers becomes the next hc of the Bills32:06- Stefon Diggs is headed to the Super Bowl35:03 - Q & Aaayyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Kirk Signetti's second year at Indiana. A whole lot of owners and athletic director to look around and say, why can't we do that? Expectations of immediate results have never been higher. Hey, but hold on, huh? All owners have to do is look at the foundation. foundation. Everything starts with having a goddamn quarterback first. It doesn't matter who you bring in.

These coaches are coming to great situations where they have great pieces in certain places. And you build around those pieces, but the most important piece that you need to have success before you worry about any other position, unless you have a phenomenal defense, is the quarterback. And the Bronco shows you even with a phenomenal defense, if you don't have that quarterback, you're not doing nothing. The Seahawks, excuse me, the Texans last week, if your quarterback plays like garbage, you're not doing anything. It's really that simple, Ocho. Let's not, let's not overcomplicated for the chat. We can have a quarterback, but if he plays bad, he can,

your defense is hard for your defense to overcome bad quarterback play. Like it could in years past. Yeah. Definitely. Also, the Steelers are hiring Mike McCarthy as their next head coach. The Steelers owner and team president, Art Rooney, the second, cited McCarthy's previous accomplishments as a head coach and his ability to develop quarterbacks as a different making trait. The news of the Steelers intent to hire McCarthy was met with overwhelmingly negative response from fans on social media. Rooney's response, well, we're really not worried about winning the initial press conference.

It's about picking the coach we believe will help us win games. And social media really doesn't enter into it. And none of that matter once we start playing games. The message for our fans is we're very excited. We think we have a coach who's well-equipped to lead us into the next winning phase of Steelers football. And with that, and that's what it is all about. I think we're going to love Coach Mike. Ocho, do you like the hire for the Steelers?

I mean, I like Coach McCarthy in general. I mean, everywhere he's gone. He's had some success. He's had success with the Cowboys, but never did. get them to the promised land like he would want it to he had success he was a green bay never did get them to the promise land like he did he went with erring rogers i mean he did yeah he won with aaron that one year so i mean he's that's why i said he's had success on the places he's gone um i like the hire but again what are we doing what do we doing with the quarterback situation i i read somewhere i saw

something about uh he likes what he sees from will howard um no disrespect the brother Howard, I don't think he's the answer for the future. I'm just saying, and me and knowing and watching quarterbacks over the years that I've, that I've not only played but watched this game in general and knows what it takes to be a quarterback in the NFL, I don't think he's the answer. Maybe I could be wrong. Maybe he can prove me wrong. But if he was the answer, I'm sure they wouldn't have to bring in a 42-year-old Aaron Rogers.

Maybe it's the inclination in bringing Aaron Rogers back so they can have that one more shot at again, being that they're familiar with each other. other, Aaron Rogers and Coach McCarthy. But again, I mean, the higher is good as the coach that has that is used to winning. You know, he's won before. But again, until you fix that situation at the quarterback position, it's just going to be the same thing. I look at it like this, Ocho. The man had Brett Farr, Aaron Rogers, Dak Prescott, 18 years.

He's had exemplary quarterback play. He's got one Super Bowl to show for it. He got three guys that won seven MVP's. He got one, two, both, so forth. Look at all the receipt. Look at all the great players that he's coached. Look at what he had. When he had Jamichael Finley, when he had Donald Driver,

and he had Greg Jennings, and he had the white kid, the young man. Jordy Nelson. Eric Deird. He had Randall Cobb, James Johnson. Look at what he had in Dallas. Look at all the players that he had. So Aaron Rogers, Brent Farm, Dak Prescott, Zeke Elliott, all those guys with his hand.

You got one Super Bowl to show for it. Hey, I got a question, though. When we break it down, right, and coaches that are available for these positions, and, I mean, who else would you hire, though? You think about it. Especially if we're going to bring up the resumes of what these coaches have done in the past,

the only hire where people would be acceptance, of would be accepting of what they've done in the past based on resume and accolades would be that of Bill Belichick and he's not walking through that door to come close to Steelers. I think the people, you know, from talking around the league, they don't think he, you know,

they don't think he can win without Tom Brady. They don't know how well he relates to the modern day player. Right. I know people say Brian. I mean, I'm just saying, guys, let me ask you this. If a guy was suing your company,

or the company you're affiliated with will you hire you know Brian Brian Flores had a lawsuit pending against the NFL right? Oh, Joe, do we know that? Oh, did we forget? I think a lot of people

might have forgot that. Well, let me first remember. He has a pending lawsuit against the NFL. The cough drop. Hey, you know what? I think people have been spoiled too. People have been spoiled by watching

the Patriots over the years Super Bowl always being in attention. I think people have been spoiled by the goddamn Eagles and the success that they had as of late. Obviously not this year. I think people have been spoiled by the Chiefs and the success that they've always had with Patrick Mahomes. Not really understanding how difficult it is

to consistently win or how difficult it is to actually reach a Super Bowl. And seeing these teams go in a short amount of time over and over, they think it's attainable every single year. it's well you get guys like brady and mahome that make it look so routine people think well why can't everybody do that no it's not easy what tom brady did for two decades is not easy what patrick mahomes is done in 10 years get to five Super Bowls and win three is not easy no that's crazy when you think about it that's crazy y'all can't be talking about you want to i'm just saying real i'm just asking you chat so it's something you're

Somebody is going to sue your company, the company that you work for, would you hire said individual? Why do you think you ain't nobody called John Gru, no, Joe? John Gru got a lawsuit. John would be a nice one. John is a good, good players coach that a lot of players are. No, the shield is these 32 owners. And if they lose this case, 32 owners are going to have to pay.

Hey, man, I got a goddamn fly in the house, man. Why do I hate the Steelers? I'm trying to figure out why I hate the. Steelers. The hate days for the Steelers is long, long, long, long, long, long, long gone. Yeah, I mean, I've never hated, I've never hated the Steelers. You had to if you were, if, uh, if, uh, you play for the Raven. Oh, even, even do it.

Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, I understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, but when you look at the coaching, I mean, who else? You think about it. If it wasn't Mike McCarthy, then who? I mean, I think fans would have been upset. I sure wish Clint could have got that job at Baltimore. But I think, I think, I think, Baltimore?

Yes. In Baltimore? I think that, can you imagine, you see how he dialing it up? I'm thinking that Steve Bichott is thinking, well, I have Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson has won two MVP's in two different systems. So it doesn't matter who's coaching him on offense. He's going to be great. I need somebody to pick this broken down defense.

I'm thinking that's how Steve Bichotte is thinking. Now, I could be right. Right. But that's what I'm thinking. And I think that's why he went defense instead of offense. And I, and I won't Clint to get a job so bad, but man, if he go to the Raiders,

he ain't got no quarterback. Why would you think he'd take that job? Why would anybody take the Raiders of the Brown job? I'm not going to the Brown. Outside of the chance, I don't, listen, These situations are opportunities don't present themselves often So I'm gonna take the job

Knowing I'm only be there for two or three years True For what? I guess they're looking at like you know what They're gonna get the number one pick the Raiders They'll take Mendoza And Clint can work his magic with that I'm thinking that's what they're thinking

I'm being honest I'm thinking that's what they're thinking I would take the Raiders job Only if we're taking Mendoza Yes And we get number three from Dallas and bringing them over there

to pair with Brock Bowers and Trey Tucker that's it now if that's not happening I'm good boy DK probably kicking himself why he had the Steelers

the team he just left going to the Super Bowl what you mean why can you imagine you go to New England and Cincinnati go to the Super Bowl boy you've lost your damn mind well actually it was the opposite way I left Cincinnati

went to the Super Bowl But you already told about you felt you didn't feel a part of that. You are a bingo. I did. I didn't. I'm always a bingles. So imagine the bingle go to the Super Bowl. Yeah.

Hey, I would have got on. You get a re. Shit, me. They would have gave me one. I would have got one made. Art Runeing the second said on Steelers head coach and search. We wound up bringing three guys in for in-person interviews. Brian Floyds, Mike McCarthy, and Anthony Weaver.

And then we sat down and talked about whether we had our man. if we wanted to bring more people in-person interviews. We decided that Mike was the man for the job. So we went ahead and offered him the job on Saturday. The Rooney Rule, they brought three coaches in. Two are African-Americans. The Rooney Rule is named after them, which means minorities get an opportunity.

They did it. They hired Mike Tomlin. Now they interviewed others. They felt that Mike McCarthy was the best for the job. Two guys are defensive guys, and they said, we want somebody that can develop a quarterback. We have yet to develop a quarterback since, you know, Ben Rothersberger. But they had Ken Wisenhunt and they had Bruce Ariens.

I hope it works. I told you should put your name in a hat for one of your coaching jobs. You would have got picked up quick, boy. I want no part of that. I already criticized Mike McDonald because he says he sees a kid about 30 minutes a week. And everybody like, that ain't no flex, that ain't no flex. Well, tell me the coach, tell me the coach. Every coach always says the same thing.

The kids, you know, and you know what you sign up for when you marry a coach. You know he's not going to be realigned like a regular guy on a 9 to 5. So the wives or girlfriends or whomever is is accepting of that. Every coach that I know burn the midnight oil. Yeah, always. Blank, hey, listen, blankets and pillows in the rooms. blankets and pillows and all the coach's offices because of the time spent,

game planning, watching film, preparing the car queue cards for the next day. I mean, so hearing that, I saw the clip too. And I saw the coach saying, I want to know how much time you think the coach actually spends on Joe? He actually spends at home during the season.

Hey, a little bit of none. A little bit of none. because some nights you don't even go home. If they wasn't going home back then, I know damn where they're not going home now, simply because of the preparation it takes to prepare for a game week to week, especially as games like this.

You're going to be to more. It's a thing, go to show. Listen, baby, I'm going to be here all week, baby. I'm not going to see you. You and the kids can come on and stop battle. Yeah. That's probably what happened. They probably need to get her in there.

I might have dinner in his office. Yeah. But I don't have no problem with it. And now look, look what they are now. Because of the time he's put into work. When they, if they win the Super Bowl,

you get to make, you get to make up all that time you miss during those six months. You understand what you signed up for depending on who you date. I want to know the guy that makes that kind of money and he works a nine to five.

So tell me that's the job I won't. Tell me the guy that works 9 to 5, Ocho, he works a normal hour and make that kind of money. Yeah, how much you make? How much we talking? What coaches make? Somewhere between $10 and $20 million a year.

Oh, and a 9 to 5? So that's six months out of the year, 9 to 5, 6 months, 20 million a year, 11, 20 million a year. So that's my calculator. That's about, okay, carry the one. Yeah. There ain't nothing out there like that.

Of course not. Not no nine to five. But when you do sports, it's just like reporters. Do y'all, hey, y'all miss deadline, y'all make it seem like y'all be there for every event for your kids. Who was that's a sport?

I'm trying to figure out I want to know the guy that every recital, every PTA, every game, everything that they were there for. Even the most doting and loving dad, I want to know the one. that if he played a professional sport, if he was a coach, that he was there for everything that the kids did.

Like a father that said a 9 to 5. I want to know. Because normally when you get into these jobs, you already know what comes along with it. The same thing I tell people, when they're talking about, you know, I want to do this or I want to be in sports, that's okay.

You okay working weekends? I don't mind working weekends. What about holidays? Man, you know, that's what this ain't for you. I don't know. know if you notice they play sports on holidays. Are you okay with not spending

a holiday with your family? Okay. Find something that allowed you to spend holidays and weekends with your family. This ain't for you. Sports not for you. I mean, obviously those, I mean, for the average person on it,

that's probably not used to it. Maybe it doesn't understand what it comes to the sacrifice that comes into not only being a player but being a coach, they probably won't understand it. They probably won't understand it. There's no explanation that can be given

where they will understand it. They just won't. What it commands, the sacrifice it takes, for one, to have the success that coaches had this year. No, I just, I can tell people to talk about,

it's just football, I can tell people that's never, never played anything. You got the 9 to 5. Who said it's just football? Somebody say that? It is. To you?

No, it's not. To people that play in life for there. But like I said, I want y'all to tell. That's how you pay your bills. I want them to tell me the guy that was a professional, that a professional athlete or coach that was at every event. For the child growing up. So they made all the PTAs.

They made all the recitals. They made all the practices. make everything. You can't. Because guess what? There are some guys that work nine to five and can't make it because they got to pull over time. Y'all say,

y'all say anything to try to get in, and we got so many sheep that just thought, yeah, you're right, that ain't no flex. That man chose this. And to be great, you got to put it, if all you do is work nine to five and you will not be great as what you're, as a professional,

or a coach. Now, you can work a 9 to 5 and be great at your job working 40 hours a week to each his own. I don't begrudge anybody because I work the 9 to 5. Well, it was more than 9 to 5, more like 7 to 7. But anyway, you get the idea. Same. But for me, I wanted more.

I didn't want, and there's nothing wrong with that, but I didn't want with a 9 to 5 because I couldn't provide for my family with that. My grandmother had worked long hard enough. My grandma had slept on that terrible mattress long enough. It lived in that house long enough. That wasn't enough for me and my brother. And

this is the type of shit piss me off. Somebody in the chat. So now we glorifying absent fathers. So everything we're saying is just going over the head. Because that's, yeah. Oh, there are a lot of fathers that don't, that's not a professional athlete

is not there. Anybody glorify no absentee father. You just understand there are certain occupations. Are we not? Are we not? Are we not listening? Are we not listening? You just explained it in depth how it is for those that are part of certain world

and certain occupations and certain jobs. It comes with what you do. But be a stay-at-home dad. You late to the show, bro. We already talked about the Broncos losing. You late to the show, bro. We are out of a half. We're 90 minutes into the show.

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all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. Oh, Joe, the Philadelphia Eagles are still looking for their next offensive coordinator. According to ESPN, Jeremy Fowler, the report reported today that the Cowboys blocked

Philadelphia's request to talk to Clayton Adams for the same position with the Eagles. When talking to Philly's OC opening this week, Greg Olson said, if I'm an offensive play caller, I'm doing everything in my power to get that job. I want to go call plays in Philadelphia. That's a great job. Ocho,

it's calling plays in Philly. Is that a great job? Hell yes, it's a goddamn great job. Absolutely. I would love to be the goddamn offensive play caller for goddamn Philadelphia. You mean to tell me I got Devonthe Smith? I got A.J. Brown.

I got Sequin Barkley in the backfield. I got MVP. Are you sure you're going to have is your brown next year are you sure oh i don't know i don't know i can listen listen if i'm the coordinator i can convince him the state if i can convince him the state i can listen here a j brown i'm coming in you're not going to have none of the problems you had last year i'm the one calling the play is now and basically what i'm going to do what i'm going to do is we're going to be a past first team. The offense, the first 15 scripted plays for the next 17 to 18 weeks, the first 15,

three of those are coming to you. Guarantee you. We will look nothing like we did the previous year, okay? Fly, Eagles, fly. Now that's going to be my notion to him if I was given and awarded the officer coordinator position for the fiddle of Eagles. Well, that's not a possibility. We know that's not going to happen. But it's a great job, monk. It's a great job. It's a great job. I think depending on who you get in there, they can expand the horizon and some of the things that Jay and the hurts some of the things that he does and some of the things that he doesn't do well. They can make his weaknesses, his strengths. And obviously, we don't want to go in depth of what those may be for those who watch the game from the outside and know what we're looking at. But I think

they can get back to, to what's the word? to prominency, you know, from the offender standpoint, where their identity and everything that we talk about is not just their defense. They can get back to what they did that year they won the Super Bowl, and that's be consistently consistent offensively, especially with the run and with the pass. Yeah, I agree.

I think it's a great opportunity. You get Lane Johnson back, the offensive line. We'll be back intact. Hopefully Dickinson and Juergens get fully healthy. you short the right guard position because it was not as it wasn't up to par of what you needed it to be defensively

you needed another rusher you need edge I mean you got those two guys inside Jordan Davis and Carter I like Jalen Phillips can you sign Jalen Phillips you know Quentin Mitchell Ocho he'll want some bread

You got to get to him You got no choice You got you got to get to him He got no choice Oh yeah He got one more, huh? So everything is

It's Everything is really contingent Mm-hmm I don't understand What the problem is on You got money tied up in both your And your guard And your guard

So you got big money tied up in them You got money tied up in your quarterback You got money tied up in two receivers Now You got to spend some money on the defensive side That means, Ocho, you know when it comes down to it, you can't keep everybody. You just can't.

No, you can't. As much as you would like to, you just can't. Yeah. Why is that position not filled yet? Everybody should be hawking, knocking, knocking down Howie Roseman and Jeffrey Lurie's door for that offense of a coordinator position. I don't understand what the problem is.

I think, Ocho, would be honest with you? Take you. I don't know if this is appealing to a coordinator. I know Greg Olson, but I don't think people view that. Jalen hurts like a lot of people does, like the Eagles fans does. Right. I'm not saying it's right or wrong,

but I don't think he's as viewed as highly or as it's favorable around the league as maybe Eagles fans have him rated. Right. I'm not sure why, I'm not sure why. I've heard the dialogue. I've heard the discourses about him. him not being a great quarterback when it comes to making

anticipatory skills I mean anticipatory throws receivers having to be wide open before before he lets the ball go I've heard all that stuff on but we talk about a Super Bowl champion we talk about a quarterback that is capable of throwing games a quarterback that all he does is win and he showed you that just not at the collegiate level but he showed you that at the NFL level

he has a great superior supporting cast around him And I think that that is a great position. Why would you not want to work with a quarterback who has already proved he can win? That makes no sense to me. But you've heard the same thing that I've heard. Because we know a lot of the same people. Yeah. And they say the same thing.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm not saying it's true or untrue. I'm just saying a lot of people in position that don't view him. And a lot of times what happens is is that when guys win we sometimes I think we overvalue because you know, Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl. But there are some guys

that won Super Bowl that couldn't hold Dan Marino's shoes. Absolutely. And so sometimes we get skewed by that and that's what that's what rings have done. It's really skewed a lot of people views on how good someone is or isn't. Now if we want to parse it instead of okay, we're going to compare Brady, Montana, Mahomes, things like that.

Okay, I get you. But sometimes the historically and the pantheon greats, some don't have championships. But to say, well, because he has a championship, he's better, are we really doing that? No. No, no, you can't. You can't because you can look at someone in the tail, I mean, we all have eyes, right? Some of us got two, some of us got one. You only got one.

In my case, I got one. Yeah, I got one. But I can tell. I have the eye test. You can look at players and understand based on skill set and quality, who's better and who's not. Now, when it comes to a game where you're running rings that collectively, that's a group effort. That's a group effort. But again, when it comes to individual skill and talent, we can damn sure tell who's better

than who. So that's a conversation that can be had. But if you got two eyes that work just well, like, come on now. Come on now. But again, like I don't I don't honestly if nobody is vying for that off of the coordinated job with the Philadelphia Eagles there's one person they can call. Huh? There's one person that they can call that understands.

Huh? Because you got people thinking Joe Flacko better than Marino. He's got a zoo bowl, but that's how they rate that's how they rate it. No, no. I don't do that. I was smack dab in the middle of Danny. Okay. Yeah.

I was in the middle of Dan's era in which he played at an extremely high level. So I'm old enough to. Oh, yeah. That's a blessing about being as old as I am, Ocho, because I saw a lot of the greats play. But you know, in this generation now, Ocho, if it didn't happen yesterday, if it happened a day before, it didn't happen. Or that guy wasn't no good. Right.

And there's been a lot of really, really good players that have been forgotten things to the internet. Mm-hmm. Because the internet only only wants you to remember two weeks ago. Mm-hmm. Come on, bro.

Yeah, sometimes that's why you got to take things into your own hands, huh? Yeah, I mean, I mean, just making sure, making sure a motherfucker remember. You got to take stuff in your own hand.

But anyway, I want to talk about this job over there in Philly. I know we got a lot of Philly fans in the chat. And, you know, I know Seriani personally. Now, I don't have no experience coaching. Well, Philip Rubbins got interviewed for a head coaching job,

and he ain't got no, well, he got experienced coaching at the high school level. Right. Right. So that makes me qualify for the position with the Eagles. Now, I might not have no experience calling plays in the NFL, but I call him on Madden. Same thing. In the playbook.

Same thing. You call it plays, you call it plays. Same play, same scheme, same tactic, same, same everything. So Seriani, how let's your boy because i ain't got i ain't got no problem moving to philly for six months out of the year the philly fans already love me huh the city already love me you know you know i'm i'm i got the lingo dick head bring your boy in what we talk about uh yeah a new year doesn't mean erasing who you were it means honoring what you've survived and choosing how you want to grow it means giving ourselves

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It's real. It's not a joke. And you mean to tell me I can't go coach the Eagles as the officer coordinator? Until the Rivers get to go coach for the bills? Reports say Josh Allen has been sitting in on all the head coaching interviews. Jeff Saturday was the last in 2022 with the coach, the last person named NFL head coach, albeit on interim basis, without any prior college or pro coaching experience.

Norman Brocklin in 1961 is the last person to be hired as a full, full-time NFL coach without any prior college. You know what? That's it. What you mean? That's it. That's it. Hey, I'm going to the Eagles.

I'm going to the Eagles. I don't care. I don't care. Don't you want to them call you first? I call it. Huh? This is, I'm doing my interview. This is part of my interview process right now.

Hey, Philly fans. You know what? Yeah, I'm, man, it's a wrap. I'm from the pack. I'm, hold on. Hold on. What you do? You pack it up?

Yes. I got my bags ready, boy. I'm going to Philly. I'm good. Hey. Hey, listen, they don't even have to hire me. Just bring me in, bring me up for an interview. You just want to say you had an interview, huh.

That's one thing. Hey, oh, one thing about it is one thing I can do is I can switch up real good. Now, you get that, you get, you have Ocho here on camera for nightcap. You give me Ocho. Philadelphia's officer coordinator position, it's a completely different animal. It's a completely different person. I changed the way I talk. I'm very professional.

I got on a shirt and tie. We can break down film. We can watch film. I can show you where I can improve some of the things that, excuse me, some of the things that Jayland Hertz may struggle with. I can teach you. I can show you what we need to do to manipulate defenses by changing some of the things that AJ Brown and DeVonte Smith do.

Listen, we struggle with the run. What do we need to do with the run? change some of the things that we do with Saquan Barkley. We got the moot. You don't understand. If they give me an opportunity to coach

and call play for the Philadelphia Eagles, you might as well give us the goddamn Lombardi next year. Because you don't understand what I would bring to that team. Huh? The energy. I'm telling you.

That's what they need. They need somebody like me in that building. They need you. Man, I'm talking about take us to the next meant, oh, boy, I'm ready. I'm ready. Siriani, I know you're going to see this. A, Big Dom, I know you're going to see this.

Mr. Lurie, huh? Mr. Roseman, holl at your boy. Howl at your boy? Because it's different. It's different. Stefan Diggs is headed to the Super Bowl after he came back from ACL surgery. He suffered, you know, ACL tear. He suffered last year while playing for the Texans.

dig said on the field interview with camera wolf of NFL media they was calling me why said i didn't have it anymore i just wanted to prove to myself i am who i say am this team took a chance on me and i wanted to make them proud i'm thankful uh saw carty on the field talking we going to the super i look i don't know what it is about carty b but y'all can't make me hate carty hold on you know what you know carty b is one of those people that she's very like they they can't make me hate carty she's not you you can't she's very likable uh i'm i'm happy for Steph, too, I'm happy for Steph. He's come a long way. You know what injury can do to you mentally.

Injuries can crush you. They can crush you, especially when you've been playing for a long time. You've had success and something like that happened to you. Most of the time you come back and you're not the same. You're not the same. And he was able to come back from injury, be in the right situation, and still be a perfect piece to the puzzle for the women. They didn't need Vikings, Stefan Diggs.

They didn't need buffers. for those Stefan days. That guy, ego was uncontrollable and it wouldn't work in that environment. They got the guy at the right time.

Man, Cardi, I was listening to Cardi. She would talk about with, you know, Stephars allegedly had another had another young lady pregnant. She's like, I'll be,

we'll figure it out. We got, hey, hey, let it drop by kid off, you drop yours off. We'll figure it out. But I don't cry, like, man.

Hey, man, it's the way she talked. and what she be saying. I mean, you can't help but like Cardi, man. She can. Let Cardi get some shine. They need to be showing Cardi at their Super Bowl. I want to see Cardi get some close-ups.

Hey, that's dope, man. That's a, that's a, in a sense, you look at it, it's almost like a fairy tale for Stefan in the sense. It's almost like a fairy tale. Man, I'm happy for Young Bull, man. All the stuff he's had to go through on and off the field. So I'm glad to see him have to have. having success, you know, in the way, in a way that, man, you couldn't, you could, a movie script

couldn't write it any better than this. All right. We'll get you out on this. It's time for our final segment of the Epe. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. Hey. Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Hey. We fin to go for real? This segment. Hey, I don't, listen, you didn't make me take a, I just took a nap today. And I got so much energy right now. Let's get a people one more hour.

No, we're not going to do that. Ah, ham, underscore 9-10. Ocho, they call Ghostbusters before they call you. Hey, so basically what you're telling me is you a hater. That's what it sounds like to mean. Detune, Ocho, come coach the boys in Philly. We call you Coacho Cinco. Yeah, let's go.

Fly Eagles fly. Fly Eagles fly. Hey, Jalen, I know you're going to see this. Hey, hit my line, boy. We can start. We can start early. Jews, 1976, Uncle Ocho. Y'all must be doing well because y'all giving ESPN and Fox Hell after the games.

People tuning the nightcap if they call, make them pay double. You know, being Ocho going to do what we do? We got, oh. Oh, yeah, you know. We ain't got no more clip. We're going to air it tomorrow. Is that thing airing tomorrow? Hey, we'll be airing tomorrow.

Huh? Oh, no, no. Oh, what you call them? It's Tuesday. It's going to be on the day off, right? Oh, bye, man. My man, my bad, my bad, my bad. What y'all talking about?

The stuff, the stuff from New York. Oh, they don't show that, man. I'll show that, man. Thank you, Juce, man. We appreciate all our chat. You know, hey, we love with Ocho. Y'all go back and forth with Ocho and I, hey, y'all going to talk, we're going to talk.

That's what this is about. So we really, really appreciate you guys tuning in. We had a big number in the chat tonight. Hopefully we can get an even bigger number. for the Super Bowl. So we greatly, greatly appreciate you guys for supporting us thus far.

True and infamous. First, thank you, Viking. Second, RAM fans can't say foot or ball. Third, Stephen, Stephen A, R.C. Cam picked the Rams.

Now look like clouds. It was a good game. It was a great game. I was not taking the Rams over Seattle, not at home. Unless you can, unless you can Colts,

Sam Darnel into turning the football over, they're going to be tough to beat. Very. I'm just going to say they're going to be tough to beat. Very tough to beat. Triple X got sanity. Unk, can't say for the ball. Ocho.

Excuse me. Also, if Ocho don't pay you $5,900, it might be some furniture moving in San Francisco. Don't worry about it. Hey, I'm all about moving furniture. I mean, you might be in the ocean. I throw his ass over board. Nah, listen.

I've been in the weight room, man. I'm liable to whoop you right now. I'm weak right now. I'm like, hey, I'm about 225 too. I heard my elbow man. Hey, I'm liable to whoop you right now. I heard my elbow man. Two, two, two, twenty five, two seven to five killing me.

That's it? That's it. That's all I got. Yeah, I'm, I'm reping that. That ain't nothing to me. Well, rep me my money. Now, I'm, I'm talking about, I'm talking about lifting weights. All right, we'll see.

Aaron Jones, Eagles, smoking on that Broncos pack. Did all that. hating for what ponies in cancun man y'all some haters eagle fans Brandon Crowe as a former player how do you guys play with no sleeves in the cold snowing conditions is there a reason for not layering

up love the show keep it up yeah because you got to be able to hold on to the ball bingo I'm going to say the same thing a thing about this when it's cold right think about Derek Henry and the problems he had with the struggles and fumbling the ball remember those sleeves he was wearing you can't

can't feel the ball. You want that's in the leather contact with the ball or is a is gonna slip right up out of there. That ball, eh, but see the thing is not, especially when it's cold, when it's cold is even worse. But you know now, Ocho, they let you have the balls for the whole week. They used to just let us get them on Sunday.

That may be slit. So now they don't let the balls got all beat all up. They don't put them in the dry. They didn't need that all kind of thing. But when it's cold, that bar, the ball, it gets hard and it gets slick. And so I wanted, I wanted, I wanted the skin, pick skin against my skin.

So you put Vaseline on the outer layer to try to keep the, keep that, the heat in. But that's it. And they can grab you. DB's gonna grab it hold. Yeah, every time. No, nothing. Hey, hey, you know what I thought about too.

Hey, ask you hear me. Ask, you can hear me? Yeah. Okay, look. Hey, a, hey, chat, this for you too real quick. I want to go, before we go to the next question, I want you to think about this, right? Hey, chat, listen very closely. Unk, what pronouns, you with me?

What pronouns do chocolate use? What pronouns do chocolate use? Yeah, chocolate. You know, like chocolate you eat. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay, you got it. Okay, you got it. There you go.

That's a good one. You got it, you got it. Okay, okay. I'm gonna let your head out. You got you got, you got you got you. That's the first time you got one. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Y'all don't do.

Y'all don't know. Y'all don't know. Desmond Linsky 599. Hey, Unk, just wanted to give you a big shout out for you, Shay Laporteur, me and my family celebrate four birthdays. month your cognac was a star appreciate you man thank you very much for your purchase man can't thank you enough k i 9650 unk I met Terrell Davis back in November at Ruth chris and Centennial Colorado and he and I told him I'm a

past fan he laughed and said he feels sorry for me I wonder if he's laughing now damn yeah j ski 97 I've been waiting for this one two three Cancun donkey fan talking all that ish but they don't want to be able to I want to tweet back making all these excuses about not playing but told me Stidham was good to do. Man, please. Jayski, y'all got us today. Y'all the team, I got to salute you. Aaron Owens, Minnesota messed up big time letting Sam Darno Walk.

They absolutely did. Alan Alexander the Great, how ironic is it that McVeigh didn't trust Kyron Williams on the gold line in Seattle? Chris Evans, I just want to shout out my page. They might not have the biggest names, but they are still good players than deserve to be mentioned like other teams with great defenses. But that's what, you know, Coach Belichick always had, you know, guys that this rose to the occasion. Now, he has some solid players, you know, go you look at Willie McGinnis and, and, uh, Rodney Harrison and Teddy Bruske. They had, obviously, they had Revis and things like Revis like that. Ty Law is in the Hall of Fame.

Revis is in the Hall of Fame. I'm trying to think who's the next guy. I think Rodney's going to get some attention. But no, the Patriots play well. They got, I mean, they did a great job. They go out and get Milton Williams, Gonzales, drafted Gonzales a couple of years ago. He's played well.

I like to the lean. They got got me Jones in the slot. Calebon Chase on. It's been unbelievable for this team. Crazy. Anthony Jennery from Alabama's played well. They got guys that play well. They got guys to fit that scheme and do a great job within that scheme.

Destroy. Y'all really thought Gino was better for this team rather than Sam Darno? Don't run. Huh? I think they offered, I think they offered Gino. Gino said no. They tried to sign Gino. They said no.

Yeah, he chose, he chose to leave. He chose to leave. They let D.K. They let D.K. They let Tyler Locker. ago and now I understand why they were able to let those two go because that goddamn emergence of JSN, he wasn't able to reach his full potential until everyone else was out the goddamn dough. And now we see why.

Name, name, how stressful is it leading up to the Super Bowl? Is it hard to sleep nights leading up to it? Did it start to feel more like just another playoff game by your third? Yeah, it's hard to sleep because you don't want to let the team down. You know it's at stake. You don't want to lose that game because I was, you know, winning the Broncos and they groping the field off and they ushering all those Packer fans, uh, Packers players off the field and all of our, you know, we're coming on the field and our families are coming on the field. Man, that's, that's a terrible feeling. That's a terrible.

I didn't feel it, but I can just imagine. Man, please. Yeah, you don't sleep. Now, you know, you get X amount of tickets. You know you're getting 15 tickets. You get two comps and then you get the, you pay for 13. That's very, very expensive. Now, I think the cheapest.

Oh, sure, it might be $100. $100,000 with the tickets. The tickets are like, I think the tickets are like maybe $2,000 a ticket. And I'm just saying, if I was playing in Super Bowl, honestly, if you're not my immediate family, you know my mama, my grandma, you're not, you're not my kids. The best seat in the house

for you to watch the Super Bowl is at home. That's the best seat. Yeah. It's the best seat. Outside the people that need to experience the Super Bowl with me are my kids and my immediate. Now I ain't talking about no cousin, no uncles and all that. My mom and my daddy,

my kids, and that's it. Your first game watching me play wasn't going to be the Super Bowl. So if you hadn't seen Shannon Sharp in a preseason game, a regular season game, or a playoff game,

yeah. Why are you calling? Yeah, don't, yeah, I know you got some tickets. I do, but not for you. Mm-mm. So obviously, mom, sister, I mean, mom, sister,

kids, girlfriend, my coach, my brother's wife, and then when I was in Tampa, Bucking and his wife came. So, yeah. Too sloppy Joe, Don't forget about the Seattle DB who broke up the pass on fourth down

and started jarred with the rev. Seattle DVs have brain worms or something. Well, he was celebrating in front of the Rams bench and he got carried away. Boy, can you imagine they had lost that? I don't even want to think about it.

Dylan Hill. Wow, I'm a Bucks fan. And I love how Seattle, how the Seahawks won. JJ Carver 80 decreased the unsportsman-like pillar to five yards. It should not be 15.

It's the same thing. It's rough in the past. One person could be physically hurt. The other caused hurt feelings. Thanks, New York Giants. it's going to be a first down anyway. Yeah, regardless. Deep Green V-O let it sink in.

Sam Donald just made the Super Bowl before a draft mate's Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. He did. Yeah. Those guys had the opportunities first, but he made it first. V1P3R Gaming 13.

Every NFL analyst says Sam needs to be the guy in week 16 and week 18, division around NLC, battle game. Will the Super Bowl ring be enough? Look, a lot of people thought he could easily be the first round pick. The year Baker went number one overall. He went number third. He went to a bad situation.

Organizations matter. Coaching matter. Who coaches you matter. He's gotten great coaching. And you see what you see what he's been able to do. Everybody doesn't have that luxury. A lot of times these guys bounce around. and they don't get an opportunity to go study under Kyle Shanahan for a year,

to go under Kevin O'Connell for another year. And then Clint Kubiak, that's the same system that Shannon runs. What do you think he learned it from? Because his dad was under Mike. And Kyle called plays under Coob in Houston. So. Yeah. I mean, listen, what we've seen from Sam Donald the past two years,

you can understand why it was a third picking the draft. This is why he just went to an unfortunate situation. If you look at over the years, those that have went to the New York Jets, I mean, need I say more. Don't say no more. Telling the Virgo at the Raven fans, I couldn't be more happier from Mike McDonald. Look, he had that defense player, and you were a couple of plays away.

His last year there, you had Kansas City at home, defense balled out, but, you know, they made a few more plays when they had to have them, and they went to the Super Bowl, and Mike McDaniel went away, and your defense hadn't been the same since. Votto, FJS 8974, Rams fan here. If we take the three points on an Ocho,

maybe McVeigh don't waste those two timeouts, and we'll probably have a different outcome. The special team turnover killed us. Yeah, you play double for turnovers. He had dodged the bullet one time, he formulated and he got on it. This time, I don't know how he failed, Ocho. I don't know, I don't know if I've ever seen a guy to do that.

Yeah, he tripped over itself, misjudging the ball. And it was, it was going, I would, I would just let it go. Forget that. When he fell, Ocho, he, I guess he ain't never followed and roll before. He ain't never dropped, stop dropping roll, huh? Yeah, hey, that's a pressure situation too. Yeah, that was tough. Play for keep.

What's up, Ocho? Put my family in y'all prayers. I lost my mom this morning. Gonna watch y'all tonight to help keep calling. on my nerves. Rest up, Mom, Yolanda, you'll be missed.

Man, bro, I'm sorry to hear that. And my condolences. I am so sorry to we're here at nightcap for sending our thoughts and prayers to all those that's impacted by Yolanda's passing, man. I appreciate you tuning in, but bro, we understood if you didn't.

But I know you want to have your mind on something else so you're not thinking about the sad, heartbreak, and tragedy. But I pray, pray God give you strength, peace and understanding in this time of sorrow. So thank you, man. for your support and uh rest easy yelonda juice 1976 uh oh cho zionn william wilinson signature

shoe line is being discontinued by jordan man brand the second largest rookie deal 75 million behind lebrun 90 million oh thanks for not giving up on us and your shayshay media team it's just hard with all the you know he's not playing okay we're talking about this tomorrow we'll give we're talking about this uh we don't want to do it you know know, we'll talk about this tomorrow. But yeah, I saw, I saw that. It's tough. Damn.

Hopefully he will. Hopefully he wills. Caleb Robinson, yes, sir. Oh, okay. Caleb Robinson said, yes, sir, Ocho. Claim your Patriots victory. Nope, we're not letting him do that today. Listen, I'm, I'm, I'm just showing love.

That's what you're doing. Showing love. I was just showing love, congratulating them for actually making it. And I just so happened to be on the team, you know, not too long ago. So you caught a touchdown again by Broncos. Yeah, I'm not jumping on the bandwagon, but the fact that they beat your Bronco.

Were you on the bandwagon? I'm kind of, I'm kind of happy by that. No, I'm not, I'm saying I'm congratulating them for beating y'all. Not just be, they built their ad, BTA. Hey, you go on to Cancun with them? Uh, no. Barbara Patel up.

Shut your A-up. Don't say nothing tonight. it's Ocho showed tonight, for real. Your Broncos are effed up next year. Pat Mahomes will be back to run that division. Burrell, Lamar, Allen, will be in contention, too. So what does that mean for your Patriots? You do realize that if they back,

that makes it difficult, more difficult for you guys too, right? So you think the Broncos just the only ones that got to play those teams? I'm King Reel. Hey, Ocho, how much I got to pay to get a gym session. with you in Miami. Any day is good for me.

I need to get right in the gym with my favorite pro player. Hey, man, you got to pay me nothing, man. You know, I'm out here, man. I'm all the way up out west. You know, I'll be in there, you know, getting at it, you know, six in the morning. So you're up at six in the morning. You come on out west, man, you know.

I'm easy to find. Trudely large, Shay, do you believe the altitude and the theater affects the players, not just the weather? I think it's a combination of both. But you've got to put them in a situation. I mean, the game was a really slow pace today. I mean, nobody could really run uptempo.

So it was a really a lethargic type of a game. So the Broncos really could never put them under the gun. But I thought the Patriots did a great job of handling, how they handled the weather, how they handled the inclement weather, and how they handled the Broncos defense. And they won, and they earned that victory today. J.R. underscore Triple I. If only the Broncos would have picked up free agent quarterback who run the ball and used him in the second half, they'd probably be heading to the Super Bowl.

Maybe we'll never know, bro. El Madden is 90. Seahawks winning. It's all coming from a Falcons fan to be continued. Bengals, they're not good. Bo Nix better than John Hill. I ain't even finish that. Piano back.

Hey, Uncle Ocho. Can you give a birthday shout out to my cousin? cousin Hauser. He's a lifelong Steeler fan. Hauser, happy birthday, bro. Thank you. Steelers hired Mike McCarthy. Hopefully that brings you guys some, some playoff success. But thank you for watching Nightcap. I appreciate that. We appreciate that.

Daniel Wells, Uncle Cho, we Viking fans know we're effed up with Sam, but damn, y'all don't got to keep shoving in our face. We know we effed up. Yeah, we're not going to shove it in your face. Imagine when he went If he horseed that Super Bowl, what y'all gonna see? I'll be pet. I take out a full page ad.

Thank you, Minnesota. No, I wouldn't do that. Old school Taurus 81. Seahawks flying high. You know this. Ballie. We're a Super Bowl bound. We focused.

You look good. You look good. The waddy way, Lamar, make you cut Jones, has a lot. Oh, has the slot. Better not let pass. where white, make them Sammy C. the ghost again. Love the show.

Bro, that's not a good matchup for Jones, man. But look, the one thing I know about the Patriots, in big games, they always be ready to play. I expect nothing less. Good evening, gentlemen, will you talk about any UFL games when their season starts? I mean, maybe here and there, if there's some spectacular plays,

but I don't think that's something that we're, like, go to detail like, we do with the NFL or college. Ashley Jablere. Hey, Uncle Ocho, my name is Ashley. Hmm. I wouldn't, could I have guessed that? Could I get a shout out.

Y'all are my favorites? Why is y'all podcasts much better than the Kelsey brothers? I think we do different things. But first of all, happy birthday, Ashley. Thank you for watching Nightcap. Happy birthday. We appreciate your support. I thank the Kelsey's brother.

I think Kelsey's do a great job. We just do different. We just different. We just different. completely different. We're going to tell funny stories. We're going to talk about things that a lot of other podcasts aren't going to talk about. But we appreciate your support.

Sports Grail 15-Ocho need that. What's that? Estabelle, Jersey from Chelsea. Is that him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a young Brazilian player. He played for Chelsea. He played for Chelsea.

He really nice. A killer goal today. It would be a matter of fact, equivalent, he'd be like, Um, Dante Hall in his time. That's, that's him. He's young,

young Brazil. He'd be the closest thing we have the name of it when it comes to a player with excitement and still has a little flair to his game. True speaks one-on-one with Mike, the Steelers, who have their first losing season in a while,

plus they don't have a quarterback. Well, Art Runey the second said he is open to Aaron Rogers coming back. Aaron is very familiar with Mike. and that system. So we'll see what happens. Fares, Belichick texted wrong Brian,

congratulating him on the New York head coaching job was wow. Text the floor is meant for dayball. Oh, should coaching spots only be opened after the Super Bowl? No. Mm-mm.

But I would have to know why everybody's pulling out that Brown's coaching thing. Mike McDaniel was there. Mike McDaniel was talking about. You know, you know why? Hey, Hey, chat, make sure y'all spam the Eagles

and let them know how I'll let you boy. Even if it's just for an interview, you ain't got to hide. You bring me in for an interview. Eagles offers a coordinator job. Sawya Carson, 93 Unc versus 08-Ocho, 12 rounds, three minutes boxing. Who takes the win?

And what? I'm knocking Ocho out. Are you talking about in boxing or MMA? Oh, I know you ain't winning MMA. What we do? Hey, I, I, I'll take you out of Ross. I make you tap out. I got, I got ground game like Kabeed.

What you're talking about? I would make you tap out, man. I'll break your arm. Ivan Augustito, game on the line. Who y'all take it? J.S. and a puka. Either one. That's why I'm surprised on that fourth down.

They didn't throw the ball to puka or, uh, uh, or, Devante. Scooper Steve, uh, oh, Cho. I recommend. the show for Fanatics Fest in July, please come. If we receive an invite, that'll be something we'll seriously, seriously consider. The Sean's show. What's up, Huckinot?

What are some changes you'll make to the Pro Bowl to get fan interested again? It's nothing. I know. I got the first one. You take some of the Pro Bowl players from the past that are still in shape and have to go against the current players. That's exciting. that's exciting because I would love to go to the Pro Bowl and route up some of these DBs

that think they can cover any of us from the past. I just think it would be dope. It's over. T.O. T.O. is in great shape. Can you imagine T.O. I don't even know what D.B.'s made the Pro Bowl. Tio routing up Denzel Ward. I'm sure Denzel probably made it. Or Pat Certain having to deal with me at 50 years old and me scoring on him. Man, please. It'd be dope.

Uh, Paradise Lane boy. Oh, Cho, do you think teams are going to get by with mediocre quarterbacks and elite defense is history repeating itself? No, because, you know, Jake, Drake may had a, uh, a mediocre game, but if you look at his play, he's in the MVP discussion. So clearly he hasn't been mediocre. No, you have to have, and you see the difference. When he needed to make a play, he made a play.

The difference is it didn't make a play. So even with an elite defense. So no, history is not going to. to repeat itself. Remedy 944. Oh, I thought you're going to complain about the cowboys keeping pickings with lamb while Bengals have $276 million dropped up in T and Chase. Come on, man. What does that have, what does that have to do with Pickens going somewhere we can get

his true value? Okay. This has nothing to do with what the Bengals did. I want Piggins to get his true value and be his own number one. They said they wanted T to get his true value and be his own number one. He wanted to stay there. Well, maybe Pekins want to stay. No, Piggins wants to go get his money.

He's not going to get it there. I talk to him. I can call him right now. Tip tips. Hey, uh, love y'all. Go pass. It's my birthday tomorrow. 40.

I was nervous. Happy birthday, bro. Congratulations. Hard fault. Well earned victory. Edo 15 Knicks. No excuse, but Boe didn't play. See you next season.

Go Broncos. Nope. I wish it was just that simple. Queen of Topics TV, Hey, Unk, the Broncos may have lost, but the latest, I'll accept your beard as a win. Don't cut it off. It looks great on you. Queen, thank you very much.

Okay, I see A-un, A-unct. Well, you've been a hot topic since you grew that beard out, what? Huh? Shane Miller. Why don't receivers catch points? I like that for you. It's important. Well, you see, once he bobber two of them,

they put Kyron Williams back there. But he just fair caught it. Uh, Marlin Spive, uh, I bet your boy Skip, tried to make an argument. that Baker better than Adam D. Who was Adam? I guess you meant Sam Darnum because they were both in

Sam, yeah. They were both in Carolina together. Turbo TZA, Unk. I will be in Vegas for WrestleMania in April. What spots do you recommend I check out? Sofu Cafe. Grits Cafe. I thought it was the Grits Cafe.

That Soul Food Cafe and Grits Cafe for breakfast, soul food cafe is for lunch. Make sure tell him, Ocho sent you and you'll get a 10% discount on your meal. They won't let you in. Hey guys, man, thank you guys for joining us so much. We have our Super Bowl matchup. The New England Patriots will take on the Seattle Seahawks.

The Patriots win 10-7 in Snowy, Denver, and the Seahawks sold on to be a very valued Rams team by the score of 3127. Thank you guys for joining us. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite aunt. My partner and co-host, the Liberty City Legend, the bingo ring of fame artery.

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Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Tickets for our live Super Bowl show in San Francisco are on sale now. That link is pinned in the chat. The show will be Thursday night, February the 5th at the Earps Theater in San Francisco. So Bay Area Patriot fans, Seahaw fans come through, show some love to Uncan Ocho and then attend the game and see if your team pulls it out. Meet and greet tickets are almost sold out.

We have about 10 or so left, so head over to get your purchase and make sure you get an opportunity to hang out with Meet Ocho and I. Ocho, we have a very special guest that will be performing. Bay Area Rapper LaRussell will be coming through to perform a couple of songs for us. I think we got something else lined up for you guys that attend the show. Again, the Seahawks hold on and beat the Rams in the thriller and the Broncos lose to the Patriots 10 to 7. I am Unct. He's Ocho.

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