Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Stefon Diggs drama, Kyler Murray COD, Spell-O-Cinco

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson investigate the rumors that rapper Cardi B had an affair with Stefon Diggs while 8 months pregnant. Later, Unc and Ocho react to Kyler Murray announcing partnership with Call of Duty and it’s the return of fan favorites Spell-O-Cinco and Dunk on Unc!03:18 - Kyler Murray COD sponsor04:14 - Stefon Diggs07:35 - Spello Cinco15:17 - Dunk on Unc23:42 - Q and aye(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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oh Joe Callamari announced a partnership with Cod C-O-D Call of Duty in a statement Calla Murray announced a partnership with Cod, C-O-D, Call of Duty, in a statement Calla said, to the trolls who mean me into the bag, thank you. I'm officially launching my Call of Duty partnership. That's live. That's live. So we talked about Calla so much. People made complaints about him playing the video game so much.

It drove him right into a sponsorship, right into an endorsement. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing, because the way he's playing right now and young fellow, go ahead, man, you can play a little you can play a little C.O.D. Play play play a little video game. Just get the ball to Marvin Harrison, Jr., baby. That's all you got to do.

He's playing good, he's playing. OK. Good. He's playing good. He's playing. OK. Go ahead. Who? I don't know. You are right. They'll find these makes the news today for a very interesting reason. According to me, his basics, I'm still a I know stuff, man.

I'm telling you, Steph, if I don't get my A6 that you collab with, I promise you, you gonna get what James Harrison gonna get. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I want my A6. I'm a 10 and a half. It's being reported that his name, Stephon, he stepped off in something. Wait.

It's being reported that allegedly Cardi B cheated on offset with Stefan Diggs while she was eight months pregnant. No. How we know? We weren't even there. We weren't there. I don't know, Ocho.

You can't believe that. You can't believe that. Ocho. I don't know if I, Ocho, believe that you know Hey, I don't know about oh Joe nice your woman your wife your significant other your girl pregnant That's one thing right eight months somebody else girl, I don't Hey, I don't I don't believe it. I don't believe it. Oh I think it's just that a rumor Steph wouldn't do that

I'm just saying well, hey if that's the case, he got the right last name dig because he would dig it Bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye, bye bye too soon. That was a nice layup. That was a nice layup. I just don't know, Ocho. I just don't know. Listen, listen, I know Steph, man. I don't. Steph wouldn't do nothing like that, man. He wouldn't do nothing like that. He wouldn't do nothing like that. Like that just, come on, man.

I just I don't even like the rumor. I don't like the person that even started the rumor to really put Steph on, man. I just I don't I don't even like the rumor. I don't I don't like the person that even started the rumor. The way they're on, you know, and assassinate his character like that. Anyway, in the first place, you try and you try my dog. How about he come on, man? Man, look, I don't even get out like that. You feel me? Eight months. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know. Maybe if you if you were if she wasn't pregnant.

OK, now that's a different story. That's a different story, you know, you know, Stephon Diggs is like he's like the Zek, like like Zek, Zek Efron in his prime, you know, all the women, all the women love him, you know, all the women love him, you know, you know, he's very fashionable, he's charismatic, he has a he has a good personality, you know. I mean, shit, you know, you know, all the women love him, you know, you know, he's very fashionable. He's charismatic. He has a, he has a good personality, you know, uh, I mean, shit, you know, you know, he has this opportunity and can, even if there's a goal or a goalie in net, he can score, you know, he's, he's one of those, he can score.

I just don't see it based on the situation and the circumstance at hand. Eight months. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's that's what. Yeah. Maybe two. He don't know. That's one thing. But eight. No, no. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.

But hey, this is step step step on. You know, he gonna have bigger problems You can give people have bigger problems if I don't get them goddamn basics. Oh, okay shit I ain't got time man. I've been working on these hands, too Hey, it's time for y'all favorite segment spell. Oh psycho Are we spelling? Yeah, oh, hey Psycho! Are we spelling? Yeah.

Oh, hey. Get loose, get loose. Well, you know, once I get loose, it's on, man. Okay. Your first word is kerfuffle. Kerfuffle. What? Woo!

Kerfuffle. It is a commotion or fuss. Woo! Kerfuffle. It is a commotion or fuss. Ocho is always getting into a kerfuffle when he goes out. Ker-kerfuffle. Kerfuffle? Kerfuffle.

Kerfuffle. Kerfuffle. Can you use it in the sentence one more time, please? Ocho constantly gets into kerfuffles when he goes out. Ker ker kerfuffle. All right. I've never heard this word before. I didn't even know it's part of the English language. But what I'm going to do based off.

How it sounds is spelled. I'm going to take a I'm going to take a I'm going to take a whack at it. I'm going to take a whack at it like I'm Italian. Kerfuffle. K.E.R. F.U. at it like I'm Italian. Kerfuffle K.R.F.U.P.L.E. Kerfuffle. You're close. K.R.F.U.F.L.E. Kerfuffle.

You got to pronounce it right now. I said Kerfuffle. It sounds like you're saying Kerfuffle. Kerfuffle.-fuffle. See, we're going to have to bring somebody on you country, your country, so I'm thinking it was like Pup-pull Pup-pull and it was Fuffle. And I couldn't tell your accent. OK, how about this?

Agregious. Agregious. That was such an egregious act. I had to respond. Agreed just. Okay. Agreed just now. Oh, come on. Hey, a G RE GI.

Oh, us. EG RE GI. Oh, us. Agreed just. Oh, I said a first. Yeah. So is he? Yes. Oh, you as a grigis. Oh, I said a first. Yeah. So it was E. Yes, E.G.R.E.G.I.

Oh, you as a grigis. OK, I put I put a instead of a instead of E. So technically I kind of spelled it right. No, you didn't. But anyway, how about this one? Ubiquitous. What? Come on, man. Come on. Chad, am I pronouncing it correctly?

Ubiquitous. Huh? Ubiquitous. Spell it for me real quick. Hey, you hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Use it in a sentence real quick. Use it in a sentence. Uh. Hold on. Use the innocence real quick. Use the innocence.

It's influence. AC is a ubiquitous influence was felt by all the family. Ubiquitous. Ubiquitous. Hey, most of the time when I had a spelling bee, when I had a spelling bee back in 1987 and I didn't like a word, I said pass. Okay. The word is ubiquitous.

U-B-I-Q-U-I-T-O- T O U S ubiquitous. I'm curious. You gave me a word to spell a word that I've never heard before. A word that I didn't even know was in the language, a word that I have never even seen in the stars. So how in the world was I supposed to get that? This is the easiest word you're ever going to get, Ocho. I will make sure you get this one right.

OK. What is it? cat gobbledygook? Gobbly gook got the matter of fact. I'm probably get it right. You said gobbling gobbledygook gobbledygook. googly gook googly gook. G.O. double B. L.Y. G double OK. G.O. B.B. L.E. D.Y. G.O.

OK googly gook. Hey, chat, I hope you are not laughing at me because there's no way in hell. You all know any of these words outside of egregious. You want one more? Yeah, give me one more. Give me one more. Give me one more. Give me one more. Give me one more. Whatever this is, I'm getting it right.

This is for you. I promise you. I promise you I got this. I promise you. I got this right here. I got this, I got this. Shit, I can't even pronounce this word here, Ocho. E-th. Oh. Ephemeral?

Yeah, nah. Oh, ephemeral. oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, ohphemeral. OK, ephemeral, E.P.H. E.R. A.L. E.P.H. He was right. I was right. E.P.H. E.M. E.R. A.L. That's what I said. I let the amount on. That's what I said. I let the M out, huh? Hey, hey, hey, listen, you, I'm not sure who picked the words tonight, but that was

the chat. Pick them. Huh? I said we let the chat pick them. Hey there. It's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liar's Poker. On every season of my podcast against theball, The Blind Side, and Liar's Poker. On every season of my podcast Against the Rules, I take a broad look at various characters in American life. The referee, the coach, the expert. My next season is all about fans and what the rise of sports betting is doing to them, to the teams, and even to my family.

I'm heading to Las Vegas and New Jersey and beyond to understand America's newest form of legalized gambling. Listen to Against the Rules on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Okay, it's my turn now. I got something for you. Okay, now it's time for the exact same revenge. It's time for dunk on up saints edition. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. So what I went for? I went for. No, you were over. So you ain't giving me a greasiness? No. folk. Now you were over. So you ain't give me a greasiness. No. OK, OK, cool. I ain't going to spare you either.

Don't go on Saints Edition. Which Saints player holds the franchise record for the most rushing yards? Who we? for the most rushing yards. Woo wee! Oh man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'ma go Deuce McAllister. And you absolutely wrong. It's Mark Ingram who has 6,500 yards. How many Deuce got?

I don't know, I don't know. I don't have deuces information in front of me, but I know one thing you got the answer wrong. All right, number two, second question. Who was all time leader in career receptions for the Saints? Ooh. I mean, it's pretty easy. His son plays now.

Mm hmm. Damn. What school did he go to? Did he go to get a Wamba? I ain't tell you all that. I ain't tell you all that because too. Maybe I'll put them words you just gave me for Spello I definitely help you mm-hmm I'm gonna go Marcus Colston god damn boy you got that bitch right what you tried to throw me off don't about this little play down. Boy,

Ocho, you dirty. I was slumped on. Me and you there. Yeah. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Listen, the answer is Marcus Colston. He has 711 receptions. Don't worry about it. Okay, you got one right. Why you do that though, Ocho? No, no, I'm just listen, I I need you to go 0 and 5 just like I went 0 and 5. Now, I already got one so I'm. All right, so okay, here we go. Who was the same leading rusher during Super Bowl 2009 Super Bowl winning season? Who was the same leading rusher during their Super Bowl run during the 2009 season? Oh my goodness, it was Reggie.

It was Reggie. Peer Thomas. That. Joy, where is that? Because I'm longing and I don't long be. And you don't know I plug it up. Yeah, I know I plug it up. What's that get logged in? You're looking at the chat.

The top of your job. The chat answer for you. That thing got it. You didn't even know that yet. I answered before you. Oh ain't got it. They ain't even up there yet. I answered before you. Hold on, okay. Here we go.

If, listen, chat. Chat, listen to me. Y'all stop helping Unk out, man. Putting the answer in the chat. It ain't in no chat. They ain't even got it up there yet. They just put it up there. I don't give you the answer.

Yeah, you, because you got it from them. Okay, here we go. Don't, don't, don't look. Don't look at the chat. OK, which Saints player holds the franchise record for? Oh, hold on. Hold on. Which Saints player has the most. Sex in franchise history. Who?

Yeah. Mm hmm. I'm gonna go Ricky Jack. Oh, you're absolutely wrong. You're absolutely wrong. Is Cameron Jordan with 117 and a half sacks. 117 and a half sacks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, here go your bonus. Here go your bonus.

Oh, you definitely ain't getting this. Which Saints player has the most pumped returned TVs in franchise history? You definitely getting this because this man. What little do? Oh, man, I can see little dude. Now I can't. Man, he's smart. I can't think of dude name.

Hey, I know what. I can see little dude. Now I can't, man, he's smart. I can't think of dude name. Hey, I know what, I know who it is. I can tell you what number you were though. 84. 84, how you know? I think it's last, is his last name Lewis? Come on, Ocho, what is it? Oh, you want the answer? Yeah.

Oh, the answer is Reggie Bush. Home return touchdowns? Yeah. How many he got? Oh, I ain't got the number how many he got, but the answer is Reggie Bush. All right. So you only got two right. Which one?

Ocho, you skipped one? I did oh Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hold on. Hold on. Here we go. Here we go We go here we go here we go which Saints player hold the franchise record for most career and exceptions. Oh You definitely get this You you know how I know you ain't getting it because I don't even know who this player is. Now, don't look at the chat. I see you looking down, you're looking down a little too long.

Yeah, you all don't answer. Chad, don't answer. Most interceptions has got to be way, way back. Oh, yeah, way back, way back way back probably 1800s too. Mm-hmm Man the Saints became a franchise like 60 60 something I don't know. Darren Sharper. Wrong. The answer is Dave Waber, who has 37 career

interceptions, which is a Saints franchise record. Hell no. I definitely won't get that. Yeah. You show one. All right. You got to write. You got to write. Yeah, you got to right. And that fellow tonight was crazy, man. But in words, I mean, I was I was real. I was real aggressive with egregious, too. I'm not sure why I said A instead of E.

Dan. Dan. Mike Thomas said George Pickens career low snaps were part of the Steelers plan and the Cowboys lost. Tomlin told reporters, we just wanted to minimize his reps in an effort to get more productivity. We're trying to keep rep management in terms of total totality of the big picture. He wasn't less of a focal point in terms of our intentions of what we wanted to do offensively. It's no different than we minimize some of snaps of our D lineman like Ham Hayward. It's about snap management. There's no underlying story to be quite honest with you. Pickens

was on the field of 34 of a possible 58 snaps. He recorded three catches for 26 yards. The lack of playing time for Pickens was especially surprising considering the fact that he amassed the season high 113 receiving yards in Pittsburgh, 27, 24 loss to end it in week four. He also committed a turnover in that game, fumbling the ball in the second quarter. What'd you think, Ocho?

Something, A, right? Cause you don't need to minimize, you don't need to minimize. Man, dude, 24, 25 years old, you, I get Cam Hayward. Cam Hayward is in his 30 as a defensive lineman. That's a lot of collisions. You talking about a wide receiver

that's 24, 25 years of age? Yeah, some going on behind closed doors. We don't know about as it. As he tried, he tried to get through, he tried to get through to him. And it's only one way to get through to him. I mean, two things don't happen. It he don't fall or he won't show up to the party. And the only way to get your attention, if you're going to take your money,

I'm going to take your reps and if taking your reps don't work, you know what's next after that I agree I agree oh Joe now it's time for Q&A Q&A Q&A Q&A Q&A Q&A Q and a Q and a. We made. Kemper know what you said. Oh, my question is if you had an NFL team, who would be your starting wide receivers? Mine would be Ocho and I enjoy watching 85 play every Sunday. Love.

Yeah. Yeah. That's me. Are we using, yeah, yeah, that's me. Are we using current wide receivers or I get to pick any two wide receivers? Well, obviously you need to be picking your co-host. So that's one receiver down right now. I don't know who else you're gonna go with but you need to be picking me.

You complain for the ball too much. I don't never say nothing. Yeah, you do. No, I never, I don't bother my quarterback cause I'm a be open. Uh, I gotta take Jerry any rivalry. Anytime you don't take Jerry, you gotta be at your mind. And I'm going to, you know what?

I'm gonna give my brother a spot. I will let Jerry play the X, my brother going to play the Z even though they both play the Z. I'm going to have to move Jerry to X, my brother going to play the Z. Who you got on Joe? You will start T.O. and Randy or T.O. and Jerry, you and Jerry, you and Randy, you and T.O. Let's get back to the question that was asked you.

So you pick Jerry and you pick Sterling and you got me sitting on the other side of this camera right now. You will be on my slot. And you said that with a straight face and you ain't even hesitate, you ain't even acknowledge to even put me in. I will put you on the slot. I'll let you be the slot. You got to play the slot.

I ain't no slot player. You will play it. I'm a monster. I belong on the outside. You want to play, hey you got two choices. You can play the slot or you can play the bench. Now which one you want to play? You got two choices. You can play the slot or you can play the bitch. Now, which one you want to play?

Hey, so I mean, my two, my two, you know, you know how I feel about them two boys, man. I love Jerry. I love all Jerry has done. But I'm going to on most, man. I'm going to on most. I because because look, somebody will get left off. You left off Megatron. Yeah, I like Megatron, too. But I'm going to get left off. You left off Megatron. Yeah, I like Megatron too.

Somebody gonna get left off. Listen, Mawson Tio, I know people love to look at the numbers. Forget the numbers. You kidding? I'm talking about I've seen that thing up close and personal with my own eyes. Megatron too. But man, something about Randy Mawson Tio, we we would never ever, ever, ever see nothing like that again. I'm telling you, never. You you think you go see what Jerry did again? No, not because even we even with the addition, the addition of actual game.

Yeah, it's impossible because for one, the level of talent and skill is too, it's too much. It's so much greater now. So it's, it's, it's impossible unless they throw the ball, you do every goddamn play. Yeah. Every goddamn play and you would have to play. That's what makes Rice number so impressive. Rice came in and a running era. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Can you imagine what his numbers would be if you gave him Montana and Steve Young who he had for the majority of his career and they threw the ball like they throw it now. Now? Oh boy it'd be it'd be insane.

Stephanie Warfield said which quarterback y'all taking to lead your team to the Super Bowl? Sammy Darx. How about Sammy Darks and Patrick Mahomes? Bro, y'all stop calling Sam Darnall Sammy Darks. He's earned that nickname this year, man. No, Ocho, you got to get some time. I mean, I ain't start calling Mahome boy Mahome boy out the jump. You got to get you You gotta get like four, you gotta get like 10 weeks in,

then you can become a homeboy. Or at least a year. So he can't become Sammy Darts until week 10. Peyton Manning didn't become the sheriff in one year. Yeah, yeah, that was a good nickname too. Yeah, it was shit title. That was a good nickname. So we just had that nickname right now, huh?

Mm-hmm. Lord have mercy. Ocho, you didn't become Ocho in one year. It took you like eight, nine years because you became Ocho. Yeah, I became Ocho in I think year five. I needed to reinvent myself. I had to think about, I had to think long term. I had to think longevity. How can I extend this brand long after the game of football is gone?

Because the NFL, you know, they market and brand who they want to. So I had to take matters into my own hands. And that's what I did. And I think I did a pretty good job because in college, I was a marketing and branding major. See, a lot of y'all didn't know that when I was at Harvard in college, I was a marketing and branding major. See, a lot of y'all didn't know that when I was at Harvard. Yeah, I was a marketing and branding major. What, you was on a farm branding cattle and hogs?

I did that too. I did that too. At the Dade County Youth Fair, I worked in the petting zoo. Boss lady said, all month for this birthday chick. Shan Ojo, can y'all wish all Libras and Scorpios and the best balls with the Southern sauce. Balls lady, happy B-Day month. Shan, check your social media for a message.

Balls lady, happy birthday. All Libras, I guess Libras, that means Libras and Scorpios. I guess they're October. I mean, does guys, I mean, do guys really know anything astrological? What's that, astrology? I know, yeah, I know I'm a Cancer. I think my brothers are Aries.

My sisters are Leo. That's about the extent of it. I don't really know like Scorpio or Sagittarius or Capricorn. I mean, I know this, but I don't know what month. I don't know nothing about that astrological stuff. Yeah. So, boss lady, happy birthday. Happy birthday twin.

Happy birthday month. You say you celebrate the whole damn month. I don't know what's, you know, what's so good about you gonna celebrate the whole month. You better get your butt back to work but I will I'll check my I'll check my social media Stephanie Stephanie Warfield said Casey is a B tonight Congrats Royals chief who that beat the who that who that who beat them Saints five and oh baby hello the Yankees, yeah, the Royal beat the Yankees

Come on, yeah I need the Yankee. I need the Yankees and the Dodgers in the World Series. Wait, they won the series No, no, no, no, it's one one. Okay. Okay. Okay It's one one Leona Rose said hi everyone night, I hope you guys are all doing well. I have a question for you. You often talk about your adult college life career and what were you like in high school?

Clown. Same. Yeah, I was a clown. I didn't, I mean, that's why I was probably 48. That's why I was probably 48. That's why I didn't go to a big D1 school because I bulljabbed around, you know, making people laugh. I mean, look, obviously, you know,

growing up the way we grew up, you had to work, but you know, I wanted to, you know, have fun in school, then go home and, you know, take care of my granny. Because, you know, my brother left and what, 83, graduated 83. So basically, my sister's eight years older than me, my sister's dating. So basically, and I had my aunt there, my aunt Jane was there for a couple of years. And then she got married and left. So it's kind of like me and my grandmother a lot of times. But yeah, I didn't, I didn't take school, at least high school, nearly serious enough.

And then when I realized it was too late because the grades were looking too good, don't you? Yeah, I tell people all the time with my grades, I couldn't got in prison. They didn't. They didn't. They didn't fuck me on the interest. I could be got in there. That's my bad. My I ain't gonna miss my grades in high school but I'm gonna tell you this I graduated high

school late I tell you that. How you graduate high school late? Cuz I ain't graduated on time. Like I graduated um wait when you had to go to summer school? I graduated about two three months yeah boy I, boy. Shit. God dang. Yeah, boy. I was bad. I was bad, but I wasn't going to class. In high school? So dang, so you went to the 13th grade, huh?

No, I ain't do all that. I ain't stay back another year. I said graduated late. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liar's Poker. On every season of my podcast Against the Rules, I take a broad look at various characters in American life. The referee, the coach, the expert. My next season is all about fans and what the rise of sports betting is doing to them,

to the teams, and even to my family. I'm heading to Las Vegas and New Jersey and beyond to understand America's newest form of legalized gambling. Listen to Against the Rules on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. And Elcho, you was in the same classroom? Nah. First, fifth, through sixth, me and Elcho in the same classroom. K through 12. That joke ain't never change.

He ain't never see a different classroom. Hey, listen, I was smarter than the whistle though. Smarter than the whistle. I just wouldn't apply myself because I felt I had enough talent and I need school But my grandma told me say boy, I'm telling you gonna keep slipping through the crack I'm telling you you gonna keep slipping through the crack and I just wouldn't listen. I Wouldn't listen until I got to like I got the goddamn Santa Monica and I was ineligible that second year and my back was against the wall because all I had was one year left because I had

to play, I had to get my grades together and play one more year at Santa Monica and all I had left was a one for one, huh? So you're going to do it to where your grandma always said it or you ask they make it to the NFL? Man, shit. But I never forget, Coach Collins, Charles Collins is responsible for me going to summer school, getting to and from summer school,

getting my grades together, having to go to Southwest College, take classes at Southwest College, going back to Santa Monica, taking classes then, just so I can play that following year at Santa Monica? Man, thank God, Dennis Erickson offered me that one for one, that one for one at Oregon State. I say, man, God, if you just get me, get me on the big stage so I can showcase my talent

and skill that will take everything else. I'm going to do it my grandma way. It's one time and lo and behold, the one time I did it it her way it all worked out how it should be Yeah I'm to buy bed. I barely made it. Mm-hmm But you made it. Yeah. Yeah, JJ Carver said relationship change because people change You don't always have to find someone new relationship take having those hard conversations sitting down to say hey,, we've grown distant. Let's build something new. Come on, I know, I know, I know about them uncomfortable conversations.

I love, I love them. I love them. Tell me everything. Tell me how you feel. Don't lie to me. I like them. Because sometimes what it can do, those uncomfortable conversations, it help you stop wasting your time to. It help you stop wasting your time to now. Come on. It does, Ocho.

But a lot, you know, it's funny because a lot of time when women get fed up, they've been fed up. They're not just fed up now. Oh, yeah. They've been fed up for like months or a year. They check out up here first. They check out up here first and they don't move on. They don't transition until the next play is already in hand. You don't leave your job unless you already got some. Yeah, I know most people. There are some now some people will leave a job and they got another job lined up. You know, God will make a way. Now, he said, don't be no fool, though. That's what God said.

But a lot of times, you know, people have things. And I think, oh, Joe, like like a woman, like a woman won't just really nearly file divorce. Right. A woman, she don't talk to a girlfriend. She don't talk to her parents. She don't met with a lawyer. She don't meticulously.

Everything is strategic. Everything is strategic in that they do, uncle. Yeah, everything. They don't they don't make rash decisions without planning things out ahead of time. OK, this is the plan. This is plan A. Okay, if plan A doesn't work, this would be plan B. So if plan B doesn't work,

well, we gonna falter and go into C. Either way, everything is mapped out. Like when you robbing a bank, when you robbing a bank, you just don't walk in there and say, give me all your money. Give me the money, yep. Nah, you got a blueprint. You don't walk in, you don't case the whole place.

Yeah, man. How many, hold on, they got this many cameras. you don't walk in, you don't surveillance. Yeah, man. How many, hold on, they got this many cameras? Okay, they only got one security guard. He old, I can really overpower you if I needed to. Let's see, what's the tall, what's the closest police station? How often do police pass through the area? To get a great car, is there more than one way in? How long is it gonna take me to get to the interstate from where I am?

Because I need to get out of this congested area? Yeah. Okay. So it's like that very meticulous, very strategic and all that they do not do us. Babe, a like old boy told his wife when he got hold of sunshine, baby, I ain't never coming home. Come home. That's, right off the bat. Women that like that. We ain't think about nothing. Mm-mm.

Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Nicholas Tillman said, what up, Uncle Nocho, love this show and the content. Can you give my wife, can you give my wife Raven and our shout out is our fifth wedding anniversary. Keep up the great work, fellas. Nicholas Raven, happy fifth wedding anniversary. Keep up the great work, fellas. Nicholas Raven, happy fifth wedding anniversary.

Guys, congrats. It's been an unbelievable ride. I'm sure you guys enjoyed each other. Y'all keeping that thing fresh. Y'all take it, you take it. Nicholas, I know you take out to eat once a week. Y'all go to dinner, y'all go to a movie, y'all have date night where y'all all get dressed up.

Go do your thing, man. Keep it going, bro. I'm proud of you, I'm for you and congratulations Nicky and Nicholas and Raven it's the fifth wedding anniversary congratulations guys happy fifth happy fifth Willie got a new quote for Ocho the book it don't chose boys what you want is just the other side of what you don't like, Sips LaPortier. Mm. That's it.

Mm. What you don't want is what you don't like. No, what you don't want, what you want is just on the other side of what you don't like. Ew, that's nasty, yeah. That's a good one. What you want is just on the other side of what you don't like. That's nasty. Yeah.

That's a good one. Diane West said, Hey, will Jackson State be on your stop for your HB tour with first take? I'm not sure if you guys are going to be in this cycle. I know they're trying to work out one more right now. We just we are going to Howard. Excuse me. This week on the 11th, we're at Tennessee State is their homecoming. And I think next month in November, we're at Morehouse and Clark, I think is going to be their homecoming. But I think everybody celebrates the the same homecoming in the AU Center, I think. But I'm not sure. I don't know if Jackson State's gonna be on this go round,

maybe probably 2025, but I'm not sure. That's beyond my purview. They just tell me, Shannon, we're doing this HBU tour. We'd like for you to participate. Okay, I'm there. But that's my level of involvement. Tramell Pralose said, have you you have you have to get your cognac and cigars to Louisiana?

Actually, we're going to be we definitely are. It's going to be one of the states. If I'm not mistaken, I think in the next month or so, we're going to have activation in Louisiana. We're definitely planning on being we're definitely going to be active, activated by the time we hit for the Super Bowl, but I think it's coming. I think if we're not there,

we're gonna be there in the very near future. So I appreciate that. We're gonna make sure Chez Balaporte and 85 Cigar is gonna be in Louisiana. Prayers to everyone preparing for Hurricane Milton. When they tell you to evacuate, guys do it. You see the Buccaneers, they're leaving on Tuesday to be ahead of the storm to make sure they don't get trapped,

get stuck there, guys, I get it. But everything that you have, all those possessions can be replaced. The one thing that's non-replaceable is life. Yeah. Ain't getting that back. So I understand you wanna stay with your stuff and things and so forth and so on, but bro, get up out of Dodge. It's not worth it.

It's really not worth it. That's it. Hey, guys, thank you for joining us for another episode of night cap and those that tuned in after watching the Chiefs remain undefeated with a 26-13 victory over the New Orleans Saints as they head into their bye week undefeated.

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