Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Steve Smith Sr.'s affair, Hooters bankruptcy, $30 lunch debate
Episode Date: March 2, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best pop culture moments of the week including NFL legend Steve Smith Sr. for cheating with his wife, Hooter announcing they're filing... for bankruptcy, the trending $30 lunch twitter debate, and much more!04:00 - Is $30 enough to gift for lunch? 09:37 - Hooters is going out of business 18:23 - Unpacking the Steve Smith affair 39:30 - Things that old people do 41:17 - You only need $200 to go shopping ladies(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ochoa woman says a man giving low effort after he sends money for a lunch. Good morning,
good morning. Cash after $30. I know it ain't much, but lunch on me. Honestly, I'm so over
these low efforts. just keep if it.
You don't have to do that.
Thanks though.
See that's the problem.
It's just ungrateful.
She sent it back to him, Mocho.
She sent it back to him?
Yep.
Yeah, so listen, that's $30 less that she had.
She ain't even had, she ain't had no money.
Well, you know what?
She might've had money anyway.
She might've had money anyway.
But again, that comes from the men.
That comes from the men that leave with
money it's easy to attract the woman to get what you want much faster when you
leave with money it's very it's very very easy very easy that's why most of
the men with the money getting all the goddamn women you hear me because the
situation like that women don't appreciate a man's generosity. Listen, I don't have much baby,
but if you hungry, here go $30. Here go $30 out my check. I don't make much every two weeks,
but I'm going to give you $30 because I want to make it. What about this tube steak?
What about this tube steak you can eat? Tube steak? You can't do that. You can't do that.
You can't approach like that.
You, that's too-
I ain't finna approach with no money.
Oh, okay.
You think I finna send you money out the rip for lunch?
Right, I see what you're saying.
What?
I mean, you right, um.
I mean, come on, Ocho.
I mean, how you open up a conversation is like send money.
Well, but you have to understand everything.
You're gonna pay indirectly anyway,
so you might as well start off.
I ain't got no cash out, so how I'm gonna get you the money?
You tell her to come get it.
Can I, I told you, hey, listen, let me tell you something before you
go.
Remember what my bio on Twitter says, right?
What is it?
Let me read it to you one more time.
Chat, y'all listen to me.
McDonald's is cheaper than therapy and never forget you're paying for sex indirectly.
Keywords indirectly. sex indirectly, keywords indirectly, but the word relationship or marriage changes the
narrative. Let that sink in. I'm not a therapist. I'm not a counselor, but I know what the hell
I'm talking about through experience. Nothing in life is free.
No, hell no.
In love, don't pay the bills. That was a good one right there. I need to write that down. Yeah, but don't you I mean, I mean.
The thing that ticks me off the most is being ungrateful.
I don't care how big or how small it is. Right.
Let me know that you appreciate my gesture.
Because I didn't have to do ish.
At all.
And this is what men also men you got to understand.
No matter how big or small it is, Because I didn't have to do ish. At all.
And it's with men also.
Men, you got to understand, no matter how much you want to give, stay within your financial
lane.
Stay within your financial lane.
I don't care who it is.
Don't allow these women to be a salary cap casualty.
Stay within your financial lane.
If you scroll through her
Instagrams, look at her Instagrams. If you look at her pictures and you see that you
can't maintain the image that she's trying to portray, keep scrolling.
Let it go. Yeah. If you can't afford it, look.
Don't even send no message. Don't even send no message.
It's okay to win the shop. I mean, when I have no bread, I'm looking like, man, I sure
wish one day I could go into the Harry Winston or Tiffany or XYZ. I'm not going to pay to win the shop. I mean when I have no bread, I'm looking like man, I
sure wish one day I could go in
the Harry Winston or Tiffany or
XYZ. Yes, sir. You look at these
women, bro. You know, you know,
so she got a Birkin bag which is
more than you make in 3 months.
Yeah. What she yeah. Stop. Yeah. And matter of fact, even if the Birkin bag ain't real,
which it isn't half the time, because you have to,
you have, there's a line.
There's a line for Birkins.
I'm not even.
Oh, you ain't just walking in no Birkin store
and getting it.
Walking in there, buying no Birkin anyway.
So that's a whole nother story.
But fellas, learn to accu-wage.
It's simple.
Learn to accu-wage.
It's okay.
There are simple women out there that will enjoy and be
happy and grateful that you send them $30 for lunch. They will be grateful. Now remember, stay
in your financial lane. Don't allow these women to be a salary cap casualty. Okay? Act your wage.
Simple. Okay. You
ain't got it. I ain't got it
baby. I'm sorry. I ain't got
it. I ain't got it. Hey, you
they they gonna kill you. I
thought I thought you was a
high roller. I thought you was
a big baller. I'm not. I
thought you was a real a real
a real ninja or I thought you
was a rider. Huh? No, that
ain't me. Don't fall for that manipulation. Don't fall for that. That ain't me. I
Ain't got it. My money jumped funny last week
The fact I got it I got it nice in it
You got a way to the interest rate come down right now the interest rates a little hot
right now
The interest too high. I gotta wait till the interest rate drop down.
Once you get under 3%, I'll let you boy.
Hold on, I'ma write you a check.
But don't cash it till this date.
Now you put-
I want you to cash your check.
If you put it in too early, the money ain't gonna be there.
March 2nd, 2011.
That's what I'ma post-date the check for.
That's where you could cash it
But I can honestly say I don't know what the last time I wrote a check. Oh
Joe check this one out. That's fun. Oh Joe check this out Hooters announced bankruptcy yesterday
Much to the sadness of a few NBA players
Kevin love posted on the Instagram a photo of himself at Hooters when he was younger with the caption, as you can see I was swimming, I was swimming in it back then.
Sad to see the fall of an absolute institution. If anyone can save it, Institute on the table.
Next slide. What do you got? Kevin Love, he got Kevin, he got Katie and Book. I'm going to go to Hooters back in the day. Now I never forget.
Now, ever since Twin Peaks has came about,
obviously when I'm in Miami,
anytime I don't frequent Atlanta often,
but the few times I have been to Atlanta,
which I can count on two hands even after all these years,
I like Hooters, but I prefer Twin Peaks better.
I prefer Twin Peaks better.
I don't know if it's the food,
but the fact that I can sit on the patio, I can smoke.
They always have my soccer games.
You know how much I love soccer.
They have my soccer games on at Twin Peaks in Pines,
Twin Peaks in Doral.
They make my coffee for me.
You know, I get my cafe con leche, I get my latte.
It's something Hooters has never been able to do for me
outside of going to eat the food. You know, they're static. it's something Hooters has never been able to do for me
outside of going to eat the food, you know, the aesthetic. We've got better wings, Wingstop or Hooters?
Probably Wingstop.
Wingstop has a variety of wings you can choose from.
Yeah, Wingstop got about 40 different flavors.
I say Wingstop got about 40 different flavors.
Yeah, they got a lot.
I don't want no sauce on my,
I mean, if I were to get sauce,
I'm probably gonna get lemon pepper, but for the most part, I don't want no sauce. I don't want no buffalo they got I don't want no sauce on my I mean if I were to get sauce, I'm probably gonna get lemon pepper but for
the most part, I don't want no
sauce. I don't want no
buffalo sauce. I don't want no
hot. I don't want anything.
Just just give me wings. Yeah.
Flats. Yeah. If I'm getting a
dozen wings, give me ten
flats and two drumettes. Is it
two drums? Yeah. Okay. That's
about right. It's too it's too
it's too too's too difficult.
Yeah, I like that.
It's too difficult.
Okay, you gonna miss Hooters?
Listen, I'm not even gonna say a lie to you,
I ain't been to Hooters in so long.
I told you. I ain't either.
Ever since I learned about Twin Peaks,
but I ain't been to Hooters in years.
I don't even, listen, Hooters right there on 27th Avenue.
27th Avenue, right off, yeah, right off of, wait, right off of Pines.
Right off of Pines and Flamingo, I think something like that.
Man, I go right to Twin Peaks.
I'm not gonna lie to you.
I'm not gonna lie, just Twin Peaks has more to offer aesthetically.
No, I look straight ahead by the use of my peripheral vision, if you understand what I'm not gonna just just Twin Peaks has more to offer aesthetically. No, I look straight ahead, but I use my peripheral vision.
If you understand what I'm talking about.
Yeah, I think I think, Ocho, I think that's what it was.
It was iconic.
It was those t-shirts.
Yes.
Crop and there was the orange shorts.
Right.
And I think that that that was the allure of it.
Yes.
It's fast food.
I mean, look, you're not going there expecting to get a five course meal, something that, oh my God,
this is the best whatever, whatever, whatever.
But it was the view, it was the ambiance,
you gotta go with your buddies
and you watch sporting events, things of that nature.
Yes, sir.
So if it is to close, I mean, how long would it open?
It had to be open about 40 years, 40, 50 years?
Oh, it did not.
I mean, hell, when I was a kid, it was.
Yeah.
Hey, Uncle, when you down in Atlanta,
you ain't been to the Twin Peaks in Atlanta?
Uh-uh.
And they got the game.
1983, so 42 years.
OK.
No.
Out your man, look here, bro. Check man look here bro hey listen sporting event when sporting
games on boxing matches mma uh basketball i i enjoy it i only go there for soccer you know they
they have me my epl games on you know i'm gonna watch la liga i want to watch champions league
i go right in pines i go right in the round. Man, it's perfect. The
food phenomenal. Well, the
thing is for me, I'm trying to
watch because I'm probably going
to have to critique or analyze
these games. Oh, he ain't
trying to. I need to I need to
be able to focus. Okay. Okay.
Okay. And you know, especially
football, man, what do you think
was that a hold it? Should they
have called it? You like that? Man, I'm trying to watch the game.
Man, I'm trying to watch the
game, man. But it's okay with
you. Okay. Yeah, you're right.
You're right. I got you. I got
you. I mean, I start. I don't
stop wearing headphones. I'll
be in the airport. They take my
headphones. They take me ask me
ask me, did he just take your
headphones? Yeah, he took them
off and asked me a question.
Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Hold
on. Somebody actually pull your
headphones off. Oh, they do it
all the time. What you mean?
Somebody all the time. Oh, they do it all the time. What you mean somebody all the time?
So if it. Hey, I can't imagine that. I know you'd be ready to snap on. I like I mean,
I mean, sometimes I do wish I get got the grace that other people that had headphones on will walk you through the airport or wherever in the gym. And then he get tapped on the shoulder or they didn't get the
headphones lifted off the ear.
But you know, the situation like that, Ocho, you know, you
have to be on all the time.
I mean, we can't celebs and entertainers and athletes.
We never get to have an off day.
We got to be on all the time.
Yes, sir.
That's that's sad.
Cause we are human.
Um, money doesn't make you from from doesn't exempt you from human experiences sadness disappointment anger frustration
Happiness. Yeah, but it is what it is. Oh Joe, you know you you keep it moving and
Cuz I ain't spending no money on no private jet
Now begin places a speaking of jets, speaking of airplanes in general,
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You know what airline hasn't had any issues on?
What airline?
Spirit.
They've been grounded.
Right.
You know what airline hasn't had any issue in chat?
None at all.
Now listen, now we might fight.
We might fight on the plane.
Oh, you what you mean, might?
Hey, stay with me now. We might fight on the plane. Oh, you what you mean might. Hey, stay with me now.
We might fight on the plane.
You might have our receptionist cuss you out.
Yeah.
That might happen.
But one thing about it, we gonna get you
where you gotta get to,
and we gonna get you back home safe.
The movie.
We ain't having no issues.
We gonna get you, we might fight.
You know, we might talk a little bit.
That's all right.
You do realize that movie Soul Plane
was based on spirit.
Hey, you know the Soul Plane
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There was vows in there.
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It might be a little turmoil on the way to your trip.
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This is what had been eating up the chat and everybody been wanting to talk about it.
Now, the rep most requested topic of the night.
Steve Smith Sr. was caught having an affair with another man's wife.
First, a Facebook post appeared that was clearly written by the husband.
I mean, you guys can see it is like, hey, I'm Nicole Martinez though.
I won't be Martinez much longer.
You see, I've been cheating on my husband
and been doing so with the very famous Steve Smith Sr. Pick a tax for reference I had hidden
under three but that's been fixed. My husband brought me a house. He's still by my side after
I've been arrested twice for domestic violence and this is how I repay him and our son. Three plenty of messages here, Steve's crazy.
The kind of revealing messages a celebrity will send.
Baltimore Ravens, I'm also a member of your team band.
I believe I violated some fraternization rules
by hooking up with Steve at the training facility.
Oh Lord have mercy.
That when it when it's happened,
why I've been, man I've been out here in the Bahamas.
I ain't hear nothing about this.
Hold on, Hold on, Ocho.
And then the husband calls Smitty and posted the video.
Now, I don't know if there's some kind of like, don't you have to record someone?
Don't you have to have it state by state and in Vegas, it's only one party.
So the party that's recording, they know it. The other party don't. California, I, it's only one party. So the party that's recording they know it the other party don't
California's I think it's a two-state but anyway, I'll show the husband calls me and posted the video
Let's take a listen to what what was said
Hey, yo Steve
Yeah, you've been f**king my wife, bro.
What you gotta say for yourself?
I'm sorry.
You're sorry? Well, listen, he said he's sorry.
He said he's sorry, Uncle.
Now listen, this is what you don't do.
This is what you, as a man, understanding, you know, that's my wife, girlfriend some of you're seeing some
of you're talking to you never confront the individual because Steve Smith see
you owes you no loyalty. Steve Smith ain't married to you bro. She's not married
she Steve is not married to you. You talk to your wife you check your wife and that
goes for any and everybody I know a lot of people you want to crash out about
your woman and and all this stuff man. Or your man. Or your man.
Listen, it goes both ways.
It always comes down to me, again, understand who you're marrying.
Understand.
Understand human nature.
Human nature is undefeated.
I'm going to say that as well.
I don't care how people come off.
I don't care how innocent they may seem.
I don't care how much they tell you they love you. When certain opportunities present themselves,
they don't go. When certain opportunities with certain individuals that are convenient and they
feel they can get away with it, they're going to go. I don't care how much love there is.
They're going to go. I don't care how much love there is. I don't care how much money you got
It doesn't matter
Understand who you're dealing with
and Move accordingly. I mean I say I say I say it all the time. I say it all the time. Listen had a family kids
Husband he's doing everything he's doing this and you upset. There's no reason to call Steve
That's not doing nothing.
You take that up with the wife,
you take that up with the Mrs.
Well, I think the thing is what the gentleman was doing
is that like, okay, if I'm gonna get a divorce,
I'm gonna try to mess your home up also.
That's what this was about.
I ain't answering.
Hey, first of all, that ain't my MO.
That's not me.
You married?
Oh, this ain't nothing.
It's something.
You know what you're ain't?
No, don't, just keep it a buck with me.
You married?
And I'm a firm believer in this.
A man might not want his wife, but the moment another man shows interest, all of a sudden it gets rekindled.
And like you just said at the top, people crash out about certain situations. That crime of passion and juries are very sympathetic. They're very sympathetic in situations like this.
Crime of passion.
Leave it alone, guys.
If they're married, just let it go.
Smitty, my guy, I've known Smitty 20 years.
Same.
Great, just saw it.
Hey, he was just at my party at the Super Bowl, had a great with him had a great conversation with I love the guy hard know the way played
XYZ but
Bro, you need to take that up with your wife
Yeah, Smitty owes you no
Loyalty he's under no obligation
Mm-hmm you no loyalty. He's under no obligation. Now, he's gonna have to deal with the
issue at home, his own situation. But this, I don't know the gentleman's name,
that's the situation. You got to tell it with your wife. she has the loyalty clause. She's the one that has an obligation to you.
To you.
Go ahead, Ocho.
I got to been around too long, man.
Been around too long, too much experience.
It ain't even worth it.
It ain't even, it ain't even worth it, you know? I'm not, I'm not even talking about Smitty's part.
I love Smitty.
You know, me and Smitty go way back to Santa Monica.
Forget the Smitty part.
I'm just talking about the individual who's married to the young lady.
And you know what time it is.
You see something like that, you're going about your business.
And this ain't the first time.
The signs had to be there.
The signs had to be there.
Something like this done just happened.
All of a sudden, oh my God, oh my goodness.
I'm going through, I go to my wife home
and all of a sudden she's sleeping with somebody else.
No, this is happening to me.
Man, they just releasing text.
Bro, they be lame, man.
Cat, cat, pack your bag and start F over.
You knew what time it was.
You know what you married.
Understand what you're marrying.
And even if you got your good girl,
I'll never forget.
I'll never forget.
A very wise man once told me,
depending on the circumstance and opportunity,
whoever you're dealing with will take the chance
if they know you won't find out.
They will take the chance depending on who it is.
It doesn't matter.
But you just can't, Ocho, but I've listened,
no matter what, I'm not calling no one about someone.
Hold on.
You think I'm embarrassed by it?
You think I'm embarrassed?
Yes.
Cause now he gonna be, man, I had, I had a better head.
Oh boy.
Cause that's happened to me.
That's happened to me.
Dude confronted me.
Oh, you ain't got no issue with her.
How do you think I got here?
Right.
How do you think I knew where she stayed?
You ain't say that, you ain't say that.
You just, in your mind you saying,
I understand what you mean.
Hey, can you imagine?
I wanted to whip him.
Nah, don't do that, don't do that, don't do that.
But he was a teammate.
Okay, God damn.
I didn't know, oh Joe, I ain't know.
You ain't know?
No.
Bro, if you was Burns, if you know-
You was a Riemann time, boy.
Oh, you like that, okay?
Ocho, Ocho, no.
If you weren't Keith Burns,
when you was with the Broncos,
I didn't know what the hell you was doing.
I didn't care.
Once I found out- Right. I'm cool. Once I found out, I'm cool.
Because I don't want it to become an issue.
Once I found out, I'm good.
You good, you got me.
Hey, bro, my bad.
Okay, three times don't you.
I had to leave.
You don't say it on your three times.
You don't say it on your three times. Damn. I had to leave. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what
I mean? You know what I mean?
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what I mean? You know what I
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know what I mean? You know what
I mean? You know what do it. You know, so I had to, I had to
linger around. Hey, right. I
understand. I understand. Hey,
that's that's why you know when
it happened once when it happened
when it happened once, when you
pack your bags and go, I don't
know what you're talking about.
What you are going to fuck?
What you're fucking about? You
really can text me. But one is
not going to stop because once
you're going to do it again, it
ain't like a light switch hit on
and all of a sudden, you know what? Oh, I ain't gonna do this no more.
I ain't gonna. No, that's that's exactly what someone shows you.
Once somebody shows you who they are, that's what it is.
Yeah, I mean, I'm like I said, I didn't know.
I didn't know until he rolled up on it.
I told you the story. I do rolled up on us.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. You was on Demon Time.
Yeah. You say you stood around. Now, now that I think about
it, in order for him to find out where we were, he had, she had to have taken him there
too. Ah. Cause ain't no, ain't no way, ain't no way I'm just gonna, you just gonna go
somewhere and all of a sudden, you know what what they might be here cuz he wasn't from there and I wasn't
From there and for him to go to that spot. Yeah, I didn't know had to have gone there before
See, you know what? You know what that tell me?
She didn't took more than just you two there as well too long. They gotta do it me. I know I'm just I'm just saying
Hey, that's all I don't care about the mother man. Just be good to me
What you did what you did before Shannon I'm just saying. Hey, that's all. I don't care about the mother man. Just be good to me. They got nothing to do with
me. What you did, what you did
before Shannon, what you do
after Shannon ain't got nothing
to do with me. But you know, it
does have something to do with
you. What you do while you
with Shannon. That's what
matter. I'll let that go. Hey, I ain't look, I ain't finna hold you. Clearly that's what you wanna be with,
that's where you wanna be at.
I'm gonna let you go ahead and do that.
Yeah.
Hey.
Man, you get out your, man, what, look.
Yeah, I-
That's the, a lot of behavior is just like animals.
Yeah.
What, and I grew up on a farm.
Once we had a hog and that joker got out,
my grandfather wasn't gonna keep him much longer
because he already knows what it's like on the outside.
So no matter how much feed and slop you gave him
on the inside, he knows it's something out there
and he needs to get to it.
So once they started getting out,
it wasn't long before my grandfather load the ass up
in the truck and take him to the market.
Once they get outside, Ocho, just like a dog, let a dog break out, especially if he or she is intact.
Right. One or two things, you either go get that fixed, because you're not going to be able to keep
him in. Now, I ain't telling you what somebody told you. I'm telling what I know. You're talking about somebody that grew up on a farm that had hogs, that had dogs. I'm
telling you. And I look, I look, I'm not saying I'm just saying the behavior. I ain't calling
no woman, no dog and no hog and nothing like that. I'm just saying the behavior. Humans
are animals. Yeah. They have very,
I'm gonna do something bad to you.
Hey, you know what? I think it's funny.
When you think about the experience,
I think that the chat, there's a huge disconnect
in not understanding the amount of,
all right, how do I say this without getting in trouble?
The chat has a huge disconnect.
What does it say?
The amount of women we've dealt with during those days.
I'm going to say it.
I don't give a fuck who I get in trouble with,
especially right now.
You don't understand the amount of women
I've dealt with during that day.
You know, it's about 20, 25 years worth.
So I know what it looks like.
What Buddy going through, I've been on one end of the spectrum,
and I've been on the other side of the spectrum.
Absolutely.
But I've been number two way more times
than I've been number one.
So I know the game, I know the tricks,
I know the trade, and like at that point,
so you become numb to it,
as soon as you see any signs,
boom, okay, you know what time it is,
you lock in
and you move accordingly. It's really easy to experience over time. That's why that's
for me. I'm just saying for me, that's why it's so easy. I always tell you, that's why
I always tell you, I see one thing wrong. It's easy for me to be able to compartmentalize
and know what's going on. I'm dealing with it.
Look, and I think the thing is a lot of times
men and women are not as forthcoming as they need to be. My grandfather used to always say,
he'd say, boy, everybody has somebody
is just to what extent?
A wife, a significant other, a girlfriend,
maybe you see them casually.
The likelihood of you finding somebody Scott free.
Now, even if you find somebody,
she or he seeing somebody and they might be willing to,
it's easy for them to cut it off
because it's not that expensive.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Wait a minute.
Now I told you this before.
This is when our earlier shows when we first started.
Yeah.
And when you meet somebody, right. And,
and the women, women in the chat, they can attest to this. You know, most of the time, the person
you with right now is really not who you want to be with. 98% of marriages, the women that are
married to certain men, you're not married to the man you really want to be with. You're married to
your safe, you're married to your safe place and the one that made the most sense. Women that have men that have girlfriends right now, ask your girlfriend,
ask your girlfriend who's the dude that left that mark in her life that will
always have access to her for the rest of her life and see if she tell you the truth.
She said everybody got one.
Every woman has one, no matter who it is. Oh, wait, they all got one. Every woman has one, no matter who it is.
Oh wait, they all got one.
And if she tell you it isn't everybody,
everybody in my life, not one,
just has that one place in that one spot.
Man, please.
Yeah.
It's a dirty game. But the mentality has changed, Ocho, you know, you're not a man.
It's a dirty game. It's a dirty
game. But the mentality, the
mentality has changed. Don't
you? Because women have adopted
a lot of the mentality that a
man has. Yeah. You know, man,
man have that mentality. You do
it. I'm gonna do it too. Yeah.
Yeah. And sometimes they go get
their leg back. They go get your
best friend. They go to work
whatever the case may be. That's your hoo-ha. Oh no, I know it ain't. No, I know that's hers. Oh, you can't give that,
hey, that follows you, that's on you. That follows you, I can't keep it.
One thing, I think one of the things we confuse, especially when we get in relationships, we get in relationships, even marriages, like this individual here, we have this feeling or notion that, okay, that's my property.
Ownership, you know, even in relationships. Once that title comes about, where men continue to crash out about is they feel as if they own that woman and her body and what she's doing with her body parts. At no point ever, no matter how much money you pour into that individual, at no point ever does she belong to you.
Ever. I don't care what she say. Even though her horizontal activity, when she
tell you this is your you know what, it still ain't yours. Because at some point it
belonged to somebody else. It's yours right now. Yeah, At that very moment. That's all I'm worried about. I don't
know. Is it? Oh, hey, Ocho. Yeah. If you spend a lot of time worried about and remember I
told you like when I went to work
and I used to tell my, I said, I can't worry about you.
I said, I can't spend one moment
while I'm at work worrying about what you doing.
Cause if I do, I gotta let you go.
I gotta let you go.
If I gotta think about what you're doing,
where you are, if you talking to someone,
I gotta let you go.
It ain't, it don't make no sense.
So it's made to put him, I mean,
I hate this, it's made to got him. I mean, I hate this.
Maybe got himself in a situation like this, knowing his situation.
But buddy was wrong for this. Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, you
get what you want. Time out just by the way he's moving, just by the way he's
moving. He ain't going nowhere. Let's start there. He ain't going nowhere.
He going nowhere. He let him go. Hell hell. He ain't even that. He ain't going nowhere. He ain't let him go.
You don't think so?
Hell no. He ain't even that type.
He done got the what you call him. He done got the woman account.
Listen, ain't nobody going through all that that's leaving.
Ain't nobody going through all that that's leaving.
You ain't doing all that if you're leaving. You know what? I'm going to save that is leaving. You ain't you ain't doing you you're not doing all that if you're leaving huh you
know what you know I'm gonna save myself an embarrassment.
There you go. Just walk away. I'm gone. Just walk away. Ain't
ain't nobody gonna know. Hey two hey three people gonna know.
Me, her, and the good man upstairs. That's it. Yeah. Hey.
It's a dirty game huh and it's been that way for a long time.
That's why you gotta learn to play it. Yeah. Hey, it's a dirty game, and it's been that way for a long time. That's why you gotta learn to play it.
Yeah.
Gotta learn to play it and bow out with grace.
Yeah, man. He hurt the Ocho.
That's hurt. I mean, Ocho.
You gonna hurt by yourself, huh?
Hurt by yourself. You know how you get over hurt?
Get under somebody else.
That's how you get over hurt.
Get under somebody else.
Consistently, you will be fine.
You know, always remember.
But when I told you that, when I said that,
you talking about, you ain't gonna heal?
I said that?
You told me I needed to heal.
Oh, this is different circumstances.
You wasn't married.
Yeah, there's different, always remember, chat.
You know, write this down.
You know, get your notepad out.
She's not yours.
It just-
And this is bad, try to die by,
ain't there some kind of fraternization?
Bro, stop it.
You ain't no military.
Steve Smith is not no, not, not no superior to her.
Hey, a fratern who?
Fraternization.
Man, you don't go about your business, man.
Hey, pack your bags, bro.
Start over, man.
It's cool.
It's a lot, it's a lot more out there.
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What old person thing do you do?
Oh, this is a good one.
This is a good one.
You know what?
Old person thing that I do, probably go to bed early.
You know, outside at nights we have nightcap.
I'm asleep by nine o'clock, nine p.m.
I'm up at five a.m.
And I'm not sure if you would consider sitting on the porch
and people watching an old person thing
because everybody people's watch,
everyone people watches in general,
but I like, I make it a thing to actually do
when I go places.
Like it's people watching is an extreme sport.
It passed by so much time depending on where you are.
At the airport, oh, amazing.
At the mall, amazing.
You can pass by, you can kill a lot of time people watching.
I'm not sure if you can see that old people thing
being that they love sitting out on the porch
and just being nosy in general.
I consider that a form of people watching as well.
I don't sit out on my porch. I don't do nothing. I put clothes on.
Ocho, I work out of my garage and people just walk up,
hey, I thought that was you. How you doing?
If you don't get your ass out of my garage.
Ocho, listen, people think I'm lying. People don't have no feel, they don't have no nothing.
People just walk, I'm talking about, I'm in my garage working out, and people just walk
up in the yard, walk up in the garage.
I thought that was you.
What you mean?
Well, you know, you're a good dude, man.
You know, people feel that you're approachable.
Don't worry about it.
I am approachable.
I got, hey, they constructing do it, man. You know, people feel that you're approachable. Don't worry about it. I am approachable.
I got, hey, they work, they constructing a fence right now.
I gotta get a fence, building and casing the whole property.
Really?
Y'all can't just walk up and be, oh, come on now.
You gotta be accessible, man.
You gotta be a people's person, you know?
No, bro.
Invite, invite them in for tea.
You gotta do like they used to do back in the days.
You know, when you meet your neighbors, used to do back in the days.
You know, when you meet your
neighbor, you invite your
neighbor's empathy. No, it's a
it's a different it's a
different time now, Ocho. It's
a different time. It ain't like
it was when you and I grew up.
It's different. Listen, you
gotta move. You gotta move
different but you live in a you
live in an area where you ain't
gotta worry about that. No, I
don't. I ain't trusting nobody. So that. No, I don't, bro, I ain't trusting nobody.
So if I walk in your driveway, you not gonna trust me? No, first of all, you better hurry up
because the fence is gonna be done in a couple of weeks.
The gate is gonna be up in a couple of weeks.
I'm not even tripping because I'll hop the gate.
I'm not tripping.
Don't worry about it.
Hey, you definitely be hopping.
I promise you'll be hopping. I promise you be hopping.
You definitely will be hopping.
I promise you.
Are you gonna shoot at me?
Oh yeah, you'll be hopping.
A ninja sent me $20 and told me to go shopping.
I must be finna order a shine card or something, child child I don't know what the F I'm gonna do with that
What is $200 to go shopping? Don't show $200? Yeah
Hey, you know how many you know how many outfits a woman can get with $200 on shine on fashion over if you can dress
The key words do you know how many outfits you can get on?
Shine a fashion over for $200 if you can dress?
All you need is a pair of heels.
All you need is a pair of heels and a purse and a clutch.
That's it.
That's it.
For women, it don't take much.
You don't have to have on designer.
You don't have to have nice $1,000 outfit.
If you know how to piece things together, an outfit with $200 from Shining Fashion Nova you can kill
them. You can kill them. I've seen women do it.
Okay, here's the piece they want to put. They want you to send $500 to $1,000 for shoes.
They want you to send another $500 to $1,000 for their hair. They want you to send another
$250 for their nails. And they want you to put another $2,000 for the outfit. That's
the piecing together they want you to put another fine another 2000 for the outfit that's the piecing together they want you to do.
Certain women need to be self you know self-awareness is very important.
You need to be self-aware. Are you really that girl to be able to attract those
type of men that are doing those type of things? If you know you're not like why
even think about it? Why even think about it? You know look in the mirror. Be
honest with yourself. What is it? Is she in? Hey how y'all say that? What about it? Why even think about it? You know, look in the mirror. Be honest with yourself. Am I going to...
What is it?
Is she in?
Hey, how y'all say that?
What is it?
She in?
Shine, shine, shine.
Is she?
Is she in?
Oh.
Yeah, she in.
Listen, am I really going to attract the kind of man that's going to change my lifestyle
with one check?
Am I going to attract one of those men that can change my life at the drop of a hat?
You know, probably not.
There's a very small percentage of women
that are going to meet those type of individuals.
So get that out your head.
It's okay, $200 is enough.
It's enough to get what you need to do.
It's enough, huh?
I'm telling you, I done see women in $5 dresses
with heels and a clutch look like a million dollars.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't, you're right, I don't know. Yeah. I don't know anything about no shopping the
you know what you're talking I'm not sure. What they say
you know, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it.
I'm not going to do it. I'm
not going to do it. I'm not
going to do it. I'm not going
to do it. I'm not going to do
it. I'm not going to do it. I'm
not going to do it. I'm not
going to do it. I'm not going
to do it. I'm not going to do
it. I'm not going to do it. I'm
not going to do it. I'm not
going to do it. I'm not going
to do it. I'm not going to do
it. I'm not going to do it. I'm
not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going. Is Pasha a site?
Hey.
Hey, I ain't bought anything. I
ain't ordered nothing up nowhere and only thing my credit card is is is paid for food. I I'm not going to go anywhere
you come across some of those really dope sites that sell clothes. Most of the time, it's in the UK too.
Hey, there's a line called,
I really enjoy this brand called St. Perry.
You know, the price point ain't crazy.
You know, real nice, you know, casual looking stuff, man.
You got to start going online.
Hey, let me shop for you.
Let me be your personal shopper.
No, I'm good. I got Shelly for that.
Okay, okay.
So you're trying to say you think Shelly has the same vision
when it comes to fashion as me?
No.
OK, OK, OK.
But let me stab you one time.
Let me just one time.
That's what I do.
This year, 2025, I'm Mr. Put That Shit On.
Oh, damn it.
I've been doing good all show, my bad.
You been doing good.
You been doing better.
Yeah.
No, I, yeah, let me get off this.
I ain't order,
because it ain't like I could order something.
Hey, but, man, you didn't learn how to do stuff
for yourself.
Why?
If I learn how to do stuff for myself,
I'm gonna put somebody out of work.
That's a good one, I like that.
That's a good one.
I gotta, you know.
That's a good one.
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