Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Super Bowl matchup, NFL expanding replay assist, Irvin calls Jerry out
Episode Date: January 27, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson look ahead to the Supe Bowl matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles, the NFL is expected to expand its replay assist ...to account for plays that could include the quarterback slide over the offseason, Cowboys legend Michael Irvin calls out Jerry Jones for the Brian Schottenheimer hire and much more!04:00 - Draft Kings13:00 - NFL Slide Adjustments16:00 - Ad - True Classic18:00 - Irvin on Cowboys coaching search37:16 - Men aren’t obsessed with women53:00 - Q&Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Chiefs are currently 1.5 point favorites over the Eagles.
Ocho, you like that?
Is it too high, too low, just right?
I mean, I think it's just right. I think it's just right. But this is what's going to happen.
You know, as the days go by, I think the line is going to change, huh?
The line is going to change. I don't know how it changes, you know, and I know the odds are stacked there in favor of the Chiefs for obvious reasons.
But listen, I don't know who's going to win the game. I don't know who's gonna win the game.
I don't know who's gonna win the game.
But based on what we know,
based off what we've seen say Korn do,
are they gonna be able to stop the run?
If they can't stop the run,
are they gonna be able to stop Patrick Mahomes?
Over, under is 49 and a half points,
so they think it's gonna be a very high scoring game.
That's a whole lot of points.
Who going to have the ball last?
That could be a determining factor.
Who going to have the ball last?
Well, how do the Eagles hold Patrick Mahomes
don't have it last?
You don't want to be able to one score
and get one possession game with him
with your heat with the ball.
No, absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
It is.
I mean, we kind of saw that, like I said,
and I don't want to be the fact,
but I thought from like week eight, week nine on,
I thought the Eagles were the best team in the AFC.
I was concerned about Kansas City.
But if you notice something about Kansas City, Ocho. Yeah.
They haven't turned the buck.
This was their first turnover in nine weeks.
Nine games. Yeah.
Nine games.
Nine, yeah.
Okay. Now, and go back to the,
how many times did Mahone get sacked tonight?
Twice.
Offensive line, they've done a better job of protecting it.
Yeah.
So now he's not getting hit.
They're not turning the ball over.
Right.
So the offensive line did a very good, very, getting hit. They're not turning the ball over. Right. So the
offensive line did a very good, very, very good. They neutralized, I mean that
one sack, the sack that the guy got, 97, I forget his name from Buffalo Ocho, great
move, did a spin, and just basically walked the left guard back and shot him
down in my home's lap.
Basically shot him down in his lap.
But this is gonna be a bang, this is gonna be a game. I mean, I can imagine what these tickets gonna cost.
Listen, you got, and then, oh, let me, you know what?
Do we got a prize yet?
This is another thing, this is what I don't like, huh?
This is what I don't like.
You got Eagles fans that travel well.
They've been to home games, they've been to away games, they've been to Brazil.
When the Eagles opened up against the Packers, you got Chiefs fans that travel well.
I'm talking about real Chiefs fans that travel well.
They've been to home games, they've been to away games.
Now it's time to go to Super Bowl.
The real fans that have been to each and every game.
Hard-earned money, huh?
And this economy, you know how this economy is.
Yes.
Then you get to the biggest game of them all, the Big Dance.
You're pricing some of the real fans out.
The Super Bowl is pricing some of the real fans out. The Super Bowl is pricing some of the real fans out.
They can't afford full $5,000, $6,000, $7,000 a ticket, huh?
Well, the cheapest ticket right now currently is $5,346.
That's the cheapest.
See what I'm talking about?
Now, you got to get a hotel.
Hotels normally owe you a minimum of four nights. Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday night.
Minimum.
They've turned the Super Bowl into a corporate event.
It's for the elite. Duh!
It's, yeah, I understand it's for the elite.
But it's taken away from the true fans
that supported these teams.
It ain't taking no money out of them owners' pockets.
Yeah, of course.
I mean, listen, at the end of the day,
listen, at the end of the day.
I'm sorry, Chad, but I'm just,
oh girl, I'm gonna keep it,
I'm gonna keep it a stack with you.
Yeah, at the end of the day, that's what it's about.
All those sponsors, Ocho.
Yeah. You know,
Anheuser-Busch and all these,
the Marriott or whoever these sponsors are.
Ocho, you think I was about to spend
300, 400, $500 million a a year and you not about to give me
no thousand tickets?
Right.
Oh, you lost your mind?
Yeah, I understand, but I just think it's not fair though.
Yeah, I think it's not fair.
I mean, who else?
Who's a Bose?
That's, I think Bose is the official headset
that you see on the sideline.
Right.
Nike, the official shoe.
Right.
I think what Pepsi, come on, Verizon.
Yeah.
Listen, I understand.
Listen, I know you have to take care of your sponsors,
your endorsement.
That's all you're taking, Ojo.
I know, I know, I'm just saying.
It's just, I mean, the Super Bowl.
But hey, Ojo.
You got people showing up to the Super Bowl,
ain't watched football all goddamn year.
They ain't watched football all year,
ain't been to Nan game, but you in the suite.
You in the million dollar suite.
Don't worry about it.
Just come on down anyway,
the Mahalia Jackson Theater, February the 6th,
Uncle and Uncle Ocho live, Nightcap live tour,
first spring tour stop.
Check us out.
Cheap. Cheap.
And we gonna have fun.
And matter of fact, if you come watch us live at the Mahalia Jackson,
February 6th, I might add, and you want some entertainment,
we live might be better than the game itself.
I tell you no lie.
And definitely cheaper.
The link is in the chat.
I'll tell you what they,
whatever you pay,
whatever the price admission is,
you'll get that plus something.
Plus?
You'll get your money's worth.
I'll tell you that.
And if you don't, I'll refund you.
Oh, you'll get your money's worth.
Cause I'll, guess what?
There's gonna be some labs having parties
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And you, and guess what? And you gonna be so celebs having parties and they're going to want 2,500 for you to get in.
And you, and guess what? And you will be so far, you won't be able to move.
You will get one drink.
Cause once you get a drink and move away from the bar,
you're not going to get back to the drink.
It's going to be so, so, so bad.
So come on out, check out Night Cab Tour.
It's our first spring tour stop.
Unc and Ocho live event.
Anybody that's been to the one that we had in Atlanta,
Houston or Dallas, ask them about it.
You already know what time it is.
Yeah, that's what we do.
Oh yeah, I have a question.
Yes.
Our first stop is New Orleans, right?
We have some unbelievable guests lined up.
Matter of fact, we have great guests lined up,
and I don't even know who the guests are because y'all don't like to tell me because I might tune it out by accident. We have some unbelievable guests lined up. Matter of fact, we have great guests lined up.
And I don't even know who the guests are
because y'all don't like to tell me
because I might tune it out by accident.
Nah, yeah, exactly.
Are we allowed to tell the chat the other cities
that we're going to be coming to or are we gonna wait
or can we give them some type of excitement?
You wanna tell them, Ocho,
the cities that we possibly go that we're coming to?
Yeah, can I, can I, can I?
Go ahead, Ocho. Can I? Yeah. Chat, y'all listen, the cities that we're coming to? Yeah, can I, can I? Go ahead, Ocho.
Can I?
Yeah.
Chad, y'all listen, the cities we're going to, y'all listening?
Miami.
Go ahead, give me a...
North Carolina.
Charlotte.
Charlotte, we're going to Charlotte.
Chad, y'all write these down now.
We're going on a live tour.
Miami, Charlotte, North Carolina. Charlotte. Chad, y'all write these down now. We going on live tour. Miami, Charlotte, North Carolina.
Chicago.
Chicago.
Detroit.
Detroit.
Come on, write them down, Chad.
Philly.
We going to Philly.
Chad, we going to Philly.
LA.
We going, oh, oh, we going to LA on Bloods.
Yeah, uh-huh.
New York and Baltimore. New York and Baltimore.
New York and Baltimore.
Woo!
Yes.
Wait a minute.
We might have to add one more.
We might have to add one more stop.
I'll pay for that one.
Where are we going?
Cincinnati.
Oh Lord have mercy, Ocho.
Cincinnati.
Ocho, you do realize,
we starting in April.
Do you realize we gonna be damn near every weekend
and then that pushes us into the summer tour.
We won't be able to do the summer tour.
Hold on, we got a tour in the summer too?
Yes.
Well, God damn, we touring like the God damn Beatles.
Yeah, exactly.
I like this, I like this, I like this.
Yeah, yeah. Exactly. I like this, I like this. I like this.
Yeah. Yeah.
So I gotta get my, you know what I'm thinking about?
I gotta get my outfits together.
Cause like I got my nightcap stuff.
That's really important.
I need to be like, I need a cameraman too.
I need a cameraman.
So if anybody's in this chat, I need a cameraman.
So you know how the NFL players, they get out the car, there's a cameraman too. I need a cameraman. So if anybody's in this chat, I need a cameraman. So you know how the NFL players, they get out the car.
There's a-
Yeah.
I need a videographer, whatever you call it.
And I gotta get my outfit.
Videographer.
Yeah, but we get it, yeah.
I'm ready.
Let's go.
Let's go, chat.
The NFL is expected to expand its replay to assist
to account for plays that could include quarterback slide
over the off season, according to Adam Schefter
Additional elements including the slide may be added
Especially after the divisional round playoffs at patching the home drew a controversial
Unnecessary roughness penalty on the Texans while sliding in the third quarter of their postseason clash
Hmm
What do you do a great job? He got a first down early today. He slid down. He slid down.
Look, anything that's going to make it, anything that's going to make it, get it right.
Get it right. But it should, Ocho, hey, you go to the, hey, I go to the monitor. I don't need
but one or two looks. Man, that'd be in that thing like three, four, five minutes.
Bro, it don't take you that long.
I look one time.
That was a catch.
Nah, that was a drop.
You know something, you know sometime I think they doing?
What is it?
I think someone could talk to the rest in their ear too.
Oh, they can.
Yeah, they linked in to what you call it.
Yeah, yeah, in Mount Laurel.
New York, right?
And they recorded them in Jersey.
For real?
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think sometimes they talk to the refs in their ear.
I think that's why they're at the monitor so long.
Because the call really, and the onus,
and the final call and the say,
really isn't on the ref by itself.
I'm just saying what I think.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely.
They could.
Yes.
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Huh?
This ain't nothing but God's work.
That's all it is.
That's all it is.
If Michael Irvin had been in charge of the Cowboys' coaching I say none but God's work. That's all it is. That's all it is.
If Michael Irvin had been in charge of the Cowboys' coaching search,
it's safe to say he would not have selected
Brian Schottenheimer.
Playmaker took to his YouTube channel
to talk about the new hire,
and he definitely did not sound happy about the situation.
He called out Jerry Jones for whiffing
on a big opportunity with this hire.
Here's my issue.
We lost an opportunity here.
I don't know what will happen with Coach Schottenheimer
and the Dallas Cowboys,
but Jerry's a shrewd shrewd businessman.
This opportunity, I'm shocked he did not see it.
We have two teams in the NFC East,
in the NFC Championship game that's being played Sunday.
All eyes are on them, the Eagles and the Commanders,
our enemies on all fronts,
and they're in position that we haven't held in 30 effing years.
The longest drought by any NFC East team, period.
Mike Zimmer to retire from coaching.
Dallas is looking at Mike Eberfluss to be their new DC.
You understand?
He was a one line, wasn't he a linebacker coaching one time with the Cowboys?
Yeah. You understand what when he alive back a coach at one time with the Cowboys. Yeah, well.
Ah, yes. I mean the check here you ask what you say.
No, I mean, I can't hear you.
I mean, can we get a microphone over there? You know what I'm saying?
You ready?
Wow.
Uh, Zim looked like he's going to retire.
Yeah.
What Mike is saying is like, look,
now hold on, wait a minute.
Y'all do realize that there's a rookie
in the AFC championship, in the NFC championship game.
He's only gonna get better.
Okay.
This is the second time in three years.
The Eagles have been there.
And it seemed like how Roseman, Jeffrey Louis, the owner allows how he Roseman
look at what he's done. Yeah. He goes and gets a Kwan. He goes and gets a J brown.
He gets black brawn. He dropped Quentin, uh, uh, Quinn, y'all, uh, Mitchell,
bro, uh, Cooper DeJon, Blankenship. Yep, they signed him.
No, Jalen Carter, Nolan Smith III, Jordan Davis, bro.
Listen.
They do it a number, they signed Jordan Milata.
Can I say something real quick?
Yes.
The NFL, right, uncle?
When it comes to playing, when teams are running plays
and they see and they watch film
You know and and they see something work on the opponent that you're getting ready to play
You know what the team team always does the copycat plays again. Yeah, you put those plays in that you see work
So I'm thinking well, it's kind of common sense and it would be common sense
Now you see how Jeffrey Lurie them are doing things or. Or you look at the landscape of the NFL, the teams that consistently win,
how they draft, how they bring in offseason acquisitions.
It's OK to copy what they may be doing instead of continuously
trying to do things your way.
I'm not sure why Jerry's not taking that method.
Listen, Philadelphia is right down the street.
Look what Jeffrey Lurie and Howie Roseman have done.
Look at the team that they have created
Year in a year out. They're making sure they put the best players
Around their quarterback so they can be in contention
Every year they they bring back the time. This is second time. They're going to the Super Bowl the what four four years three years
Come on, man.
If anything, the team that's supposed to be making these kind of moves to make sure the
status goes with the star symbol would be Jerry, would be the Dallas Cowboys.
The Dallas Cowboys are supposed to be doing and making the moves that you see the Eagles making.
It all starts up top.
It all starts at the front office and it trickles down,
which is why they're having success year in and year out.
And all you have to go off of and lean on as your crux
is what you've done 30 years ago.
But I need to hear no there.
Jay wants to credit.
Maybe I'm wrong.
You see, you see, Jeffrey Lure, he's perfectly content.
Howie, I trust you build the best team you possibly can.
Whatever it's going to take.
I want to be able to compete for championships every single year.
Not talk about him. Not talk about him.
Not talk about it.
I mean, I've only heard,
I think I've heard Jeffrey Lurie talk once
and he did a feature about his brother.
I think he has a brother that has special needs or something.
I think that's the only, over the last year or so,
that's really the only time I've ever heard
Jeffrey Lurie talk.
He's talking about his brother
and how special his brother is to him.
As a matter of fact, I ain't heard Clark Hunt talk.
There are a lot of owners I ain't heard talk.
I ain't heard Josh Harris talk.
I heard Josh Harris talk a little bit about, you know,
good people, let people do their job, boom, boom, boom.
But other than Jerry Jones,
Chad, can y'all tell me an owner
that you've heard talk this year?
Other than Jerry.
I'm trying to think.
I don't, some owners don't even make themselves available.
People are like, well, you bitch,
because CJ is not in that big four.
I said the big four.
Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes.
Do y'all believe CJ Stroud is in that group?
Yes or no?
I mentioned CJ, he's in that next tier
with Justin Herbert, with Bo Nicks.
Some of the other guys.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.
Don't be throwing, don't be trying to throw it.
Don't try to sneak Bo Nicks in there.
You think you slick, I heard you.
Bo threw for 29 touchdowns this year, Ocho.
The second most ever for a rookie behind Justin Herbert's 31.
Hey, calm down, calm down, little fella.
I'm just playing.
And he made the playoffs.
I know Bo Nicks made the playoffs.
I know a team that didn't make the playoffs. Who?
I ain't gonna bring that up.
That ain't got nothing to do with me.
I don't even know why I mentioned it.
But one thing about that team that didn't make the playoffs,
them and Bo Nicks and the rest of their team,
they in the same place right now.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I'm just telling you.
We gotta after check.
We gotta after check.
We gotta after check.
Man, y'all stop.
Y'all know good and well.
Y'all know good and well, CJ is not in that group with the big four.
And I think CJ is a very good player.
But he's not, guys. Stop it.
It's okay.
It's okay.
Just like there are certain levels.
There are certain receivers and D linemen and so forth and so on.
You can be, look, you can be in a league, Ocho.
Everybody in the league is very good,
very good to great, exceptional players.
But everybody ain't on the same level.
No, no, no, no.
So let me ask you a question.
Do you believe that the Houston Texans,
if they say, you know what, we'll take,
if the Houston Texans had an opportunity
to trade straight up CJ Stroud for Patrick Mahomes,
would they keep CJ or would they take Patrick Mahomes? If the Houston Texans had an opportunity to trade straight up CJ Stroud for Patrick Holmes,
would they keep CJ or would they take Patrick Holmes?
If you had an opportunity to take straight up Lamar Jackson for CJ Stroud,
would the Texans do it? Straight up Josh Allen. Straight up Joe Burrell.
Stop playing, chat.
Yeah. Stop it. Yeah, chat. Stop playing, chat. Yeah, yeah chat, stop playing. No, good will. I'm just asking, honestly. Of course.
Of course. Now, I'll flip that
question.
Those guys are untradeable. I don't believe either team
would trade their guy.
Everybody knows, first of all,
ain't even nobody even calling Kansas City about my home.
They're not calling.
They're not calling Baltimore about my home.
I wonder how fast they would hang the phone up
if somebody did.
Just out in the blue.
Have you thought about trading for Pat Clicks and And... Or Lamar. The first, if a P come out your mouth,
you better say pass or put.
If it ain't pass or put.
Pay please.
Hey, that's funny.
Hey, that's funny.
No, hell nah.
But I think Michael's frustration and I think Dan's bright side is trying to be it also.
But I think Michael's frustration on Joe, he's looking.
Jaylin Hurst is what, 26, 27?
Jayden Daniels, 24.
He's like, bro, these guys are young.
And look at the success that the Eagles have had.
The Eagles have been in the playoffs every year.
Hurts has been a starter.
This is the second time in three years
they've been in the Superbowl.
Here's a rookie quarterback that's gone farther
than any quarterback in the last 30 years than the Cowboys,
which is the NFC Championship game.
And you keep hiring these guys, Jerry,
you keep doing it because you want credit
and you're not doing a great job.
You think you are, but you're not.
The proof is in the pudding.
And look, like, like, like, Ocho, you're like,
you and I, you know, I played for the Broncos and the Ravens,
you played for Cincinnati.
We sincerely, genuinely want to see those teams win absolutely
bro I played in the division with Mahone man I'm tired of Mahone going to the Super Bowl
I want my team to go yeah yeah at least one of them damn he ball guarding the Super Bowl. D-Bow in the Super Bowl. Yeah.
Straight D-Bow.
So, uh, Mike is frustrated. Mike, he did.
Yeah. I mean, he should be. He should be.
A prominent figure that's a part of that star,
part of that organization and his success during his time
voicing his opinion. But will hearing from Mike and his success during his time voicing his opinion.
But will hearing from Mike and his frustration-
No, he already hired a man.
He ain't finna find it.
Will it change anything?
No, it hasn't changed anything in 30 years.
Guess what's not gonna change?
Him being in the Subbo in the next 30,
unless somebody else is in charge and do things differently. Get somebody and let them do their job. Jerry
doesn't let the coach do their job. He's already told him Jason Wynn is gonna be
on that staff. What is Jason Wynn gonna do? You know what's gonna happen? He's the coach
you're waiting. Jerry said he's gonna be the coach you're waiting. Man don't. And if I'm
not mistaken, he won Coach of the Year
and Jerry's Orph Foundation donated money to the school.
Hey, that's legal?
Yeah.
Okay.
It's a donation.
Oh, yeah.
No, that's crazy, man.
Hey, it's so funny.
They find a way into the headlines, huh?
Who that?
The Cowboys.
Oh yeah.
Well, he did that, but it ain't steal no headlines because Brian shot, first of all, he doesn't
move the needle.
And second of all, he tried to suppress some of that Eagles, two teams in his division.
Right.
So he tried to steal some,
he's trying to let some of the air out of the balloon,
but it didn't work because the Eagles,
this their second time in three years in the Super Bowl.
That's crazy. The Eagles hadn't been, excuse me,
Washington, the commanders hadn't been
to the LFC Championship game since the last time,
if I'm not mistaken, they won the Super Bowl.
You know what, the Cowboys- It was 92.
Mm-hmm. You know what-
91 season, 92 Super Bowl.
The Cowboys, you know what?
Jerry, I know you want to see this.
Dak, I know Dak watched the show too,
so just FYI, I'm just letting you know.
Dak, if you see that CD-LAM,
I got the perfect scenario, got the perfect situation
that can counter the success in all senior acquisitions
that the Eagles are getting.
Now I'm gonna get this to you right now,
loud in front of everybody,
if you wanna win the NFC,
East consistently year in and year out,
there's one dude you can bring in
that changes the dynamic for everything.
Even with what they have in St. Claude, this counters that.
One thing you can do.
Simple.
What?
Bring me in to play receiver.
That's it.
They already got a lot of guys that can't get open.
Who can't get open?
You.
Boy, that's me.
You must have forgot.
You better, you better.
You must have forgot.
I saw that guy putting them clamps on you last year.
You must have forgot.
That guy putting them clamps on you.
I'm still me.
Ain't nothing changed.
The only thing I lost is opportunity.
That's it. The only thing he didn't say, you have the
right to remain silent. Hey, you heard what I said. Anything that you say can and will you...
Hey listen, you heard what I said. Hold on. Come get it. Hold on. I said I don't want none of that.
Hey, hey CD DAC, y'all want to make history? Come holla at your boy. Huh? Come holler at your boy. I know I'm a little on the heavy side right now.
I'm 6'3", about 240.
I can get down quick.
Ocho, can I ask you a question?
Talk to me.
The Chiefs talk about the NFLers rig.
Why haven't they rigged it for the Cowboys?
I mean, the Cowboys is the most popular team, the most valuable franchise.
Why haven't they rigged it for the Cowboys?
Hey, could you imagine, could you imagine if the Chiefs for the Cowboys were the Cowboys?
They would be the Cowboys.
They would be the Cowboys.
They would be the Cowboys.
They would be the Cowboys.
They would be the Cowboys.
They would be the Cowboys.
They would be the Cowboys.
They would be the Cowboys.
They would be the Cowboys.
They would be the Cowboys. They would be the Cowboys. They would be the Cowboys. They would be the Cowboys. They would be the Cowboys is the most popular team, the most valuable franchise.
Why haven't they rigged it for the Cowboys?
Hey, could you imagine if the Chiefs were the Cowboys or the roles were reversed?
Chief, the Cowboys, first of all Ocho, the Cowboys had a chance to be the Chiefs and Jerry Effort ruined it.
What don't people understand about that?
He had that!
In the 90s when he fired Jimmy.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He had Troy, Emmett, and Michael.
Right.
A dominant offensive line.
Yeah.
A dominant defense.
He ruined it.
He had the Chiefs and the Patriots
before the Chiefs and the Patriots.
Right.
Damn.
So the NFL fans, so here's the thing. They got this, they got the Cowboys, Damn.
So the NFL, so here's the thing, they got this, they got the Cowboys, the most marketable
franchise, the most valuable franchise in pro sports, but they have yet to rig it for
them.
Why?
I always thought to myself, when people say the NFL is rigged, I always thought to myself, you got 53 players on the squad, right?
They go through meetings, they go to practice, they got more meetings,
they go through play, they go through scripts, 15-place script before,
you know, at the start of the game.
I mean, and then scripted how?
How do you get all 11 people,
how you get all 11 people on the same page?
That's only fans that team doesn't win.
That's people that don't,
first of all, that's people that don't know.
You and I both played.
We played the game.
Yeah.
I disregard, I did, you know,
we sometimes we have to answer that
and I hate that we have to answer that on first take.
Right.
But that's people that don't understand. Do you know how many moving parts that you have to answer that and I hate that we have to answer that on first take. Right. But that's people that don't understand. Do you know how many moving
parts that you have to have? Too many. They have to have them go right though at that.
And Eagle fans, on that PI that they call him in end zone, you okay with that? They're the one
they call on Marshall and Latimer on AJ Brown? On the crossing route against Devontae Smith. on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, on a, second quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter. They wanna look at it. At that point in the game, it's too critical.
Bro, it's a pass interference.
The guy jumped outside and Oliver jumps outside.
The guy gets to my, oh, what about the holding call?
Dumb dumb, if he doesn't jump outside,
he doesn't have to hold it.
You do realize once you commit a foul,
it supersedes anything that happens after that.
Mm-hmm.
I'm like, come on.
I get it, you want your team to win.
Yeah.
I get it.
But come on now.
Y'all just say anything.
But you know what, Ocho?
I'm not surprised.
That's why we in the position.
People believe anything and all that.
Just like that guy that said,
the guy went on his TikTok video and said,
President Trump said, you know what?
Child support, the women, it goes to the man.
He gonna be able to write the tax off.
And then he come back and say, and everybody believed it.
He made it up, yeah.
He did, everybody believed it.
Had people talking about, hey, that's what I like to hear.
Because if I'm paying, I should be able to write this.
See?
You see that?
Just like that, Ocho.
All you got to do, you know, most of the time when you read stuff, you can do your research
a little bit.
You know, Safari, you have Google, you have a huge machine behind you that can research
facts, and you can fact check things before you read them.
And the fact that what he said caught wind that fast and so many people
believed it without fact checking.
You'll need you don't need facts anymore.
You don't, Ocho. Yeah, they just run with it.
Uh huh. Yeah.
Damn.
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So there's a stat on Facebook and basically it says men are not obsessed with women like
they used to be.
Y'all don't find that kind of weird?
And to be honest, no, I don't find that kind of weird.
So it seems to me like a lot of y'all are now starting to realize that you're
either losing value or have lost value from chasing attention.
And now that's something that y'all got to deal with and y'all can't face that fact.
Ocho?
I like that.
Agree, disagree, slightly agree?
I mean, it varies.
It depends.
I think men are a little bit more now focused on just themselves, you know, focus on work,
get into the bag and allowing the woman to be the last choice of importance,
as opposed to how it was before.
You know, chasing the woman,
chasing, chasing, applying pressure, doing all that.
And most of the time,
which you have to understand too, Uncle,
is women put up such a front
with the chasing and applying pressure,
as if there's something that's so different about them
as opposed to anyone else that you could deal with.
But then when you actually get a hold
and you get to learn that individual
and you're allowed access, you come to find out,
well, God damn, I've been doing all this chasing for this,
but you ain't no different than nobody else.
It's all the same.
At the end of the day,
I think men's focal point has changed from chasing women,
the more focusing on themselves, work, family,
if that comes into play.
And it's just different now.
It's just different now, especially in today's era
where we have a lot more women that are in,
I hate using the word alpha positions,
but they are the men now.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Women are the men.
A lot of women.
But see, when you keep saying,
I don't need a man, I don't need a man.
Yeah. Do you convince yourself.
And then you want to be masculine
because you think you can talk to,
at the end of the day, that's still a man.
And I'm not saying, look, I'm old
and know how my grandmother and how I saw everybody raised.
See, these women today, they talk about,
oh, I want to be treated like my mom
and my great-grandma got to treat,
but y'all don't behave like that.
Y'all ain't cooking.
Y'all ain't cooking no meal every day.
When my grandfather got home at lunch, meal on the table.
He got home at dinner, meal on the table.
He ate first.
It wasn't no arguing back and forth.
When my grandfather said they can, they did. Mm-hmm. It wasn't no arguing back and forth. Right.
When my grandfather said they can, they can, they did.
When he said they couldn't, they couldn't.
Yeah.
But y'all, oh, I will do me.
Okay, we'll do you.
I don't have to be a part of it.
Yeah.
And so I think the thing is that they've convinced themselves
they don't need a man until they need a man.
And then you 24, now you 45, now you 50. Now your options are limited.
Right. Yeah. I don't think women understand that the options are limited, especially today,
especially what they want. When you look at their expectations and what they expect and what they're
looking for, it's very hard.
It's very hard to get.
No, Ocho, it's not hard, but here's the thing.
What you want, gotta want you.
Ooh, that's a good one.
See, that's the problem.
Okay, you want a guy.
Oh, he need to be over six foot tall.
Oh, he needs to make six figures.
Oh, he need to do this.
Well, every time you throw out something that he needs to be six figures. Oh, he need to do this. Well, every time you throw out something
that he needs to be, a percentage, 15, 20%.
So now you down to 5%.
That 5% of the man that you want,
that's over six foot tall, that has a nice body,
that makes six figure, that's well to do,
does he want you?
Damn.
And most of the type of men that they want,
you know, it's part of the 1%, huh?
Absolutely.
So it puts the dudes that are in the 1%,
they just get to pick who they want.
It's hard. It's hard.
It's hard for something to add back to increase in value.
Yeah.
That gets that constantly gets used.
This is what I said, Ocho.
Yeah.
Say it again.
Say it again.
Name something that increase in value that's constantly get used.
You told me about my Ferrari.
You say buy that Ferrari, but put it up.
A bottle of wine.
Philippe Rothschild, protrudes, Kamers.
Right, 1942.
They ain't drinking it.
I'm just saying.
Wait a minute, I don't even think the chat heard you.
Do me a favor.
Say, man, let me get my motherfucking pen and paper,
because that, man, hold on.
You don't have to bring that to me again, hold on.
I'm not gonna use that.
Yeah, I bet you wouldn't.
Oh, hold on, oh, you're gonna have to use that.
I'm gonna use that at Sunday service.
Boy, boy, you just dropped in the gym right there
and I don't even think you're chatting with paying attention.
Yeah, because everything, you know,
Ocho, I want somebody at least six foot tall.
I want somebody at least 200 pounds.
I want somebody that make at least six figures.
I want somebody that go to church.
I want somebody that like to travel.
So you name six things that you like.
Right.
Okay, you find that guy,
but he's only probably into 1%.
So that 1% of the men that you're looking for,
is he looking for the 15 to 20% of the women
that's looking for him.
So now if he's not,
so now you, oh, I'm valuable. valuable, oh I'm this I'm that. Huh?
Right, right, right. Tom Brady wants- They know they know they worth. They know they worth.
Worth is what someone is willing to pay for something.
Tom Brady can list his house for 150 million.
Come on, man.
But after, I guarantee you, after six months over a year, that house ain't sold, I guarantee
he dropped the price.
Okay.
So now, if somebody comes in and says, Tom, he want 150 million.
I give you 100 million cash.
Uh-huh.
Okay, I take it.
That's what the house was worth.
See, you don't get to determine your worth
if somebody's not paying for it.
Oop.
Roy, that's what women got to understand.
You keep saying, are you buying yourself?
Are you purchasing yourself?
Mm-hmm.
So where is the value? Value is only something that is only valuable You keep saying, are you buying yourself? Are you purchasing yourself?
So where is the value?
Value is only something is only valuable
if somebody will purchase it.
I want $600,000 for this tool, a lip therapy.
It's worth $7.
They gotta stop this notion, tell me I know my worth, I know my worth.
Your worth is what someone is willing to pay for it.
That's what worth is.
Look up the dictionary, look up worth in the dictionary.
As a matter of fact, I'm going to Google it.
I don't know what I'm doing.
I'm Googling my damn self.
Hey, wait, you preaching today?
You, you what?
Wait, what? Wait, what?
You know, I, you know what also?
What I think about is, is in general, women,
they put themselves in unwinnable positions at times, you know, they play hard to get, they're very difficult.
They create this perception that all the work the man is going to put in, in the end.
You know, it's, it's, they're just, they're just getting this, oh my goodness.
This is so much different than everybody else.
When, when in hindsight, once you are gained access to it, it's no different than anybody else. That's why they played the difficult game in the beginning.
That's why they make you jump through hoops
and make you jump through obstacles
because there's really nothing at the end of that light
or at the end of that tunnel.
You know, and it's not a bad thing.
We're all human.
What do you do that's so special than the next person?
Cook? Can you cook? Hey, can you cook some oxtails? I need to know, can you cook oxtails? human. What do you do that's so special than the next person?
Cook? Can you cook? Hey, can you cook some oxtails? I need to know, can you cook oxtails? What am I saying? Can you cook breakfast? Grits, eggs, sausage, bacon,
french toast, pancakes? Okay, okay. What about eggs, better than it? Make
hollandaise sauce? Okay, okay, you can't do that. Okay, what can you do?
What's the, this value that you speak of, what is it? Because I just want you to
know a little something. Everything that you do, I can pay somebody to do it.
Cook, clean, get my dry cleaning. Hey, I don't pay them to sleep with me, I pay them
to leave. So I'm just trying to say, so where's the value?
What can you do for me that I can't have somebody do?
Everything that you do.
So if I'm with you, I really want to be with you.
So if you choose to...
So hold on, you pay him, you sleep with him, you pay him to leave, you're not paying him to...
I ain't paying for the sex, I'm paying you to get out.
Hold on, hold on, let me write that down. Let me write that down so I can use that in my next argument.
So I just wanna know, if I'm with you,
I ain't playing no games with you.
Right.
Do you understand that I'm not?
I jump on a plane to come see you,
you best believe you mean something. Hold you, you best believe. You mean something.
Hold on, huh?
You flew to somebody before?
Man.
So all this, all this, all this stuff, oh this,
I don't, I don't, hey.
I'm just telling you, I'm keeping a file with y'all.
Mm.
So all this going back and forth,
yo, I don't care enough about that.
Because all I know you keep saying you worth this, you worth that.
That property ain't been purchased in a long time.
Well, you just have to wait.
Look like you're going to have to drop the price on it.
But they have to wait for a buyer to come along. That's life, that's the way it works, I understand.
And you know what?
Something about our beautiful women,
something about our beautiful women in this world,
we can't live without them.
We can't live without them.
There's always somebody for everybody.
And just at what point is your person gonna come along?
That's willing to buy or pay whatever you feel
that worth may be.
And my thing is, Ocho, I don't even feel like I'm the prize.
I don't tell no women I'm the prize.
No, no.
But you better, I don't know who told you
they told you wrong if you think you the prize.
That's a great topic too, Unc.
That's a great topic.
Women feeling like they are the prize
and understanding what they bring to the table.
I think some of them might be.
What?
Despite us being the providers.
I think some women, some might be the prize.
You don't think so?
No, we're both the prize.
I wanna be with you.
Hopefully you wanna be with me. I think you're special. I wouldn't be with you if I didn't think so? No, we're both surprised. I want to be with you. Hopefully you want to be with me.
I think you're special.
I wouldn't be with you if I didn't think you were special.
Yeah.
I'm not going to waste your time.
More importantly than that, I'm not wasting my time.
Because you can't get that back.
You can't get that time back.
I can't buy it back.
Yes.
So that's, I just think the thing is sometimes like, man, let's just be real here.
I'm going to treat you with the ultimate respect I just think the thing is sometimes like, man, let's just be real here.
I'm gonna treat you with the ultimate respect. If you got a kid, I'll treat that kid as if it was mine.
I'll never be disrespectful to you.
I'll never call you out of your name.
I'll never do anything.
Right.
But these women, I mean, they quick.
Man, they quick.
I'm the prize. I know my worth.
Well, they be looking good.
You know, and you know-
Man, do you know how many women look good?
I know, it's so many.
And you know what I don't like?
Can you address it?
Cause I don't know how to put it in the words.
Why do women always feel because they look good?
Cause we base everything off of looks,
because obviously men-
Because men are very visual.
Visual, we're visual creatures.
We're very visual creatures, yes.
Why the first thing, if you do mess up,
the first thing people say is, oh, he fumbled me.
Huh?
No, actually, no, no, no, no.
Fumble is a situation where I'm running
and somebody knocks it out of my hand.
Right.
I punted you.
I punted.
It wasn't a fault.
Yeah.
Who?
Yeah.
I realized like, okay, I realized I couldn't get
any more yards.
Right.
Let somebody, hey, let the next guy catch it.
Hopefully he fair caught it.
But he might've let it go over his head
and into the end zone.
I don't know, man.
It's just, listen, we can't live without them.
They can't live without us.
It's all about finding your person.
It's all about finding your person.
And if you have, if you, sisters, if you're watching,
ladies, if you have a standard,
whatever that standard may be,
whatever that value or worth you may
think you have, you stick to it. You stick to it until your
guy comes along. I don't care how long it takes. You know, I'm gonna make sure you
gonna win. Matter of fact, ladies, if you in the chat, you don't have a
man right now, the holiday is coming up. Valentine's is coming up. Send me a
message on Twitter. I guarantee you I had you a man and some gifts and dinner
before Valentine's day.
I'm playing matchmaker.
Because I know your value.
I know your worth.
I'm gonna make sure you get your man.
I hope, hey, I hope everybody, hey, like you said,
there's somebody for everybody.
I hope they find that person. But I'm just tired of hearing every? I hope, hey, I hope everybody, hey, like you said, there's somebody for everybody. I hope they find that person.
But I'm just tired of hearing every time I be,
oh, I know my value, I'm this and that.
Look here, I guarantee you, go stroll on IG.
They got on YSL, they got on Tom Ford.
They got a Gucci bag, they got a Louis bag,
they got a Chanel bag, they got a Birkin bag,
they got a G-Wagon or they got a Range Rover,
they got this. So I'll tell youWagon or they got a Range Rover. They got this.
So I'm telling you, what's the differentiating factor?
Whether you got fillers, whether you got a BBL,
whether you got boo.
I don't.
And I'm not judging.
I don't care.
That's your body.
That's your money.
I just ain't paying for it.
I'm just saying, if you want lip filler, you want botox,
you want BBL, you want lipo, get it.
That's your body.
I don't tell nobody what not,
I've never told a woman what to do with her body.
I just want you to know I'm not paying for it.
Because I'm not fighting a frog for another snake to eat.
Ooh, I remember that one.
So I'm just saying, take off.
If y'all want whatever you want,
whatever that you think is gonna enhance,
I go to the gym because I wanna feel,
it makes me feel good.
Me too.
But if y'all wanna go, hey, if y'all wanna do
whatever y'all wanna do, I'm all for you ladies.
I'm never gonna, ugh, I can't believe you did.
That is your body.
That is your temple.
You do whatever as you see fit.
That's just not me.
Oh Joe, now it's time for our last segment of the evening.
It's time for Q&A.
Damn, we leaving already?
Man, it's almost two hours.
Man, that thing was getting good.
Boy, you were preaching tonight, right?
Ooh, that was a good one.
That got me some good notes.
Big Mike said, congrats, Kansas City refs.
I mean, jeez.
Come on, Big Mike. Hey, Big Mike, you still on the refs. I mean, chief, come on, Big Mike.
Hey, Big Mike, you still on the refs, huh? Yeah.
That's funny.
He and Hunter said, no, he's absolutely being helped
by the refs call.
No, I'm not saying he's not great,
but no other team gets these calls.
You're flat wrong with these calls, not swaying games.
He's getting generational calls.
It's obvious, but that's not, that's not what the penalty situation says.
Right.
He gets fewer calls for the amount of dropbacks than any other quarterback in the league.
Yeah.
We, we, we talked about the, they have more calls go against them in situations
than any, than most teams.
So y'all said the same thing about Brady.
Y'all said the same thing about the Patriots.
Y'all said the same thing about Kansas, uh, Joe.
It, we just didn't hear it.
But in the barbershop, where you're talking about man, Kansas, I mean, the
Chief, I mean the 49ers, how they went all this.
You all, when someone is winning, there has to be a trick to why he's winning.
Yep.
Or why they're winning.
I mean, the guy did hold.
It just happened to be at the most inopportune time.
Every time.
It's just like a turnover.
Mahomes turned it over in the first.
Now let's just say for the sake of argument, they're down or the score is
tied and he had that same turnover with four minutes left.
You see, turnovers way differently at different times of the game.
Penalties way differently.
But if there's a chance of I'm beat, I'm going to hold Ocho.
That's what we're taught.
Yeah.
Martin Mohammed, hey, are you talking about past greatness?
Don't forget your phrase, 17 of the 20 playoff stars.
Can I interest you in that?
Also, your dog is big and beautiful.
What kind of dog is it?
It's a Borbo, which is a South African Mastiff.
It's from the Mastiff breed,
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so it's called a Borbo.
Yes, 17 and 20 playoff starts.
17 and 3.
That's crazy.
Five Super Bowls in seven years.
People don't understand how crazy that is.
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Jera Anthony Rojas, she's on the best team each year. I wouldn't be surprised if they were
victorious against the Eagles. They're without a doubt the most well-prepared, uh, the most well-prepared,
well-prepared team for sure.
And they've been in these moments, Ocho.
So they're not going to beat themselves.
Nope.
What?
No.
They're not going to beat themselves.
Mahomes isn't going to beat himself or a pre-team in harm's way.
And that's what we've been very, very good at is protecting the ball in the right moments.
And when he gets the opportunity, he always makes the play.
Always makes the play.
The great ones always.
Crazy.
That's how you become great.
If Brady didn't come through in those moments, Ocho,
would Brady be the goal?
Would he be what he became?
It's because he came through in those moments
more times than not.
That's how you get the Jordans, the Byrdes, the Magics,
the LeBrons, the Steph Currys.
This is how the Cobies.
Mm-hmm.
That's how you get, that's how you become
these mythical figures by being when it matters the most, you show up and you, you, you complete the mission.
Oh yeah.
Uh, Kahari Vonsay, Uncle Nocho, what do you think about the game?
For real, no questionable cause.
Do you think the Chiefs still cheat?
Andy Reed, I'm a Packers fan, but I love Andy.
No, I mean, we just-
How do, how do the, I'm do, help me understand, the Chiefs,
how do they do it?
Once upon a time, Ocho, when the money is not what,
what incentive it is for a player?
Now we saw Tim Donahue, he got caught.
I think Michael Porter Jr.
brother, he got caught doing some funny business.
Could the refs theoretically?
Sure they could.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
But they could do that at every sport.
But see, I noticed when y'all like somebody, but when y'all don't like somebody,
y'all question it. Ain't nobody ever said Jordan got favorable calls. You ever
heard that Ocho? No. You ever heard that with Kobe? Never.
Nah, my home's that good. Andy Lopez said, Uncle Ocho, KC Ned is here. This
part is second to none.
I hope the game ended refs in our favor.
P.S. with the kid being said,
she's by 10 in the bowl.
Ocho, I'll smoke you in FIFA.
Man, I don't, hell, the Chiefs ain't one, what?
There only one Super Bowl by 10.
That was the first one, 31-21.
And they were down 21 to 10 right they were down 21 10
to San Francisco in their first room over here and then it rolled up 21
straight I don't know it's hard to see me since somebody beating uh beating uh
Philly by by 10 they're playing way too well Tee Walker oh you asked what Josh
needs to do how Tonya Harding that's aing. That's a good one. That's a good one.
That's a good one.
If Mahal's three-peat, he's the go. There's no conversation.
MJ is considered the go with six rings, while Bill Russell won 11, seven straight.
Brady won seven. Just means more confidence all all time like BR and the NBA.
What'd you think Ocho?
You three piece he's the, uh, he'd go?
That's what, that's what I said. That's what I said to you earlier.
You know, I say, maybe we need to have a conversation.
You said, no, we can't have a conversation yet.
If he happens to do it for a full time in a row, then yes, we do.
I think the thing is Ocho, look, if I like somebody, I'm going to make
an argument why he used to go.
Right.
Because I want him to do, see, if I do something, if I, if he does something,
we didn't say, well, Jordan's a girl, cause he's three.
Well, Bill Russell was seven, eight straight.
Is that more than a three P?
Right.
But if we, Ocho, if I like you, I'll make a compelling argument.
It's just like politics.
If I like you, I'm gonna vote for you.
Damn what you may or may not have done.
That's how it works in sports.
It always has, always will.
Is I, Revis, Ocho and Ocho love what y'all do,
but didn't Brady beat Mahomes twice
in the AFC Championship game in Arrowhead?
Yes.
So let me ask you a question.
So is Nick Foles, Nick Foles, so Eli beat Brady twice
in the Super Bowl, the biggest game.
So what'd that make Eli?
I'm just curious.
I mean, y'all would have used that argument.
So what does that make Eli if he took Brady down twice?
What does that make Eli if he took Brady down twice?
Peyton beat Brady three times in the AFC Championship game. What does that make Manny?
Nick Foles beat him.
Joe Flacco beat, you see how y'all make the argument,
you see how your argument falls apart?
If that's the criteria y'all using,
Eli beat Tom Brady twice in the Super Bowl
with an undefeated team.
Mm-hmm.
Mm.
Mm.
Tell me, what has Eli done?
Beat Brady twice in the Super Bowl?
Gentlemen player, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen have one victory combined versus
Pat Mahomes in the playoffs.
What does that say about those three quarterbacks?
What does that say about Pat Mahomes?
You know what it says.
You asked the question. You asked the question and answered it at Padma Holmes? You know what it says, you're asking a question.
You ask a question and answer it at the same time.
You know what it says, he's great.
Ain't no denying that.
Ain't a whole lot of people, and look,
seven years, he's 20, he's 17 and three.
He's 20, he's 17 and three. He's played unbelievable.
Just because he's great, that doesn't mean that they're not.
Yeah, because they are.
They're good.
And that's what I always say, Ocho.
Really good.
Eli beating Tom Brady doesn't take away from Brady.
It accentuates him, give him credit.
Give Nick Foles credit.
Give Joe Flacco credit.
It's okay.
Two things can be true.
They can be great and not beat Patrick Mahomes.
Yeah, they what?
Slime God said, brorow has missed the playoffs and or not finished the season in three or five years.
He's played.
He can't be in Mahomes Allen Lamar conversation.
Joe Burrow went to a Super Bowl.
Other than Mahomes, which one of Lamar or Allen has been to the Super Bowl?
Joe Burrow has played in two AFC Championship games. Mahone, Allen is not,
has Allen played in two AFC Championship games?
Or one?
He's played two.
He lost, he lost, he lost, so this is his second.
No, that was, that was, that was, no, that year they lost, the Mahomes lost to Cincinnati.
They beat the Titans one year, they beat Buffalo one year,
they beat Cincinnati and they beat Baltimore.
So they beat Baltimore.
So they beat Buffalo twice, Cincinnati once, Baltimore.
Right, so they lost Buffalo, they beaten Buffalo twice.
They beat Cincinnati once, they beat Tennessee
and they beat Baltimore, right?
Baltimore, twice Buffalo,
Cincinnati, Tennessee, five L.C. Championship games.
J'Ton Justice, chat.
What are the Giants thinking right now?
Don't look, I ain't got no problem with you wanting
to move on, but I don't like is what that GM did.
Yeah.
And he put it on hard knocks.
Do you know how pompous and arrogant broke?
Yeah.
And then you go tell about, oh, you know,
knowing, they know knowing they know they offer
him something that he knew he wasn't gonna take yeah on purpose they knew
that purpose and then you know we feel we owe you that you owe me and then you
have a nerd to tell about oh you know circle back you know give us a chat
the one thing I can say about Kwan say Kwan is very very
professional he handles everything because I you could I kind of hear like
bro he said I've made it clear what I wanted to be mm-hmm but that's not what
y'all want me because the thing is is that when my brother told me when I
left Denver he said Shannon when they want you you never become a free agent
ever My brother told me when I left Denver, he said, Shannon, when they want you, you never become a free agent. Ever.
Laura and Christie Buffenmire, we love you guys.
We are so curious to see Ash in the background
or maybe get her mic'd up and watch Ocho say,
37 Lem Podcast, but Nightcap is the best.
Ash, Ash likes being a producer.
She likes being behind the scenes.
What's good Nightcap?
Question for Uncle Nocho.
Do y'all have your favorite player
was like underrated in the past or present?
Players like Herman Moore Jr., Sead, Vinson Jackson,
to me were good players, but overlooked.
What do y'all think?
Not Jr.
I was in the era with Junior and rest his soul.
He was phenomenal.
You never knew where he was gonna be.
It was hard.
He was one of the hardest guys
because he's supposed to be in past coverage
and he's in the backfield.
In the backfield.
Bro, what are you doing?
Oh, he's doing stuff.
That is so unsound.
I used to hear the stories,
Shannon Crowder used to tell me the stories
about when he was with the Dolphins.
It was so funny, man.
No rhyme or reason.
And we know what the defense calls for.
Yeah.
He doing his own thing.
Own, own thing.
I played against Herm.
Herman had some great years.
Oh yeah.
He just happened to play in the era with my brother,
Chris Carter, Jerry.
He was in that, he was in the NFC.
And you had Andre Risen.
Yeah, it was Herman Moore, Johnny Morton.
Remember Johnny Morton?
Yeah.
Johnny Morton.
Brett Pearman.
Brett Pearman, yeah.
With Barry in the backfield.
Dogboards and Unk, as far as NFL owners talking,
you know, like David Tepper wants to be Jerry Jones,
look at the track record of teams and his wife control
as head of Tepper Sports, eight, seven NFL coaches
and six MLS coaches in seven years.
Yeah, I mean, they really trying to run it like a business where you change the CEO coaches and six MLS coaches in seven years. Yeah.
I mean, they really try to run it like a business where you change the CEO and
you might get some instant success, but when you change coaches like that, you
don't, because when you change coaches, you change systems.
I just thought about something.
What?
He said six different head coaches.
Is Charlotte FC, David Tepper owns Charlotte FC?
Yep.
Well, as I know.
They just signed a very good friend of mine,
Wilfred Zaha, very good player.
Played in the Premier League for a very long time
from Crystal Palace, played in Galatasaray.
Now he's down here in the States.
You know, a good move for MLS.
Wait a minute, I didn't know David Tepper owned Charlotte FC?
Who you think owned it?
I had no idea.
How many people in Charlotte you think got 10 billion
enough to put 125 million into a soccer team?
Damn.
That's dope, that's dope.
Frey Polymero said,
Cowboys need to get miles, Gad,
but they're too cheap and stupid.
Fray Polymero said, cowboys need to get miles, Garret,
but they're too cheap and stupid.
How they gonna pay, that's impossible.
And cause he wants a new contract.
Yeah.
And they gotta pay Micah.
J213, say hello to Ocho,
what's your favorite cartoon back in the day?
Tom and Jerry always had me rolling, much love.
Both always will.
You ever do nightcap tour in Boston.
What's your favorite cartoon growing up, Ocho?
Oh, man.
I'd probably have to say, probably Frag A Rock.
And that's not even a cartoon.
Well, it is, it's sort of a cartoon.
I don't know if you remember Fraggle Rock.
I don't even know if anybody in the chat is young enough
to remember Fraggle Rock.
You mean old enough?
I mean, I'm sorry, old enough to remember Fraggle Rock.
Man, Fraggle Rock was my, that was my thing.
And it's really not even the cartoon,
but probably Fraggle Rock and the Jetsons.
I like the Jetsons too.
Hell, they might not even remember the Jetsons.
Probably not, that was a 70s cartoon.
Man, I used to want, I used to want the Kyle U to beat the hell out of Bugs Bunny though. Man, I said, man, and you just catch him.
One time.
And you beat his him? One time. Did you beat his ass?
One time.
Leona Rose said, what's up, Dycapp?
I'll get on to you.
Do you guys remember your very first pet?
What would you guys remember?
What would you guys recommend someone to get?
Love the show.
Yeah, I mean, my first pet.
I remember my first pet.
Clear as day.
It was mine. It was we, I mean, we didn't get pets as
individuals. You got, you know, in a family pet.
Right.
My first-
You know, we had Halls. I had, we had Halls named Sonny, had
one named Bruce, had one named Marvin, had one named Bill.
Damn. Yeah, had one named Bill.
Damn. Yeah, he was a pet.
She, you think you can pet, let it walk and ride?
That was a pet.
A pet.
Yeah.
Oh, Kelly, we had a Durock, a Durock male named Kelly.
Durock, he's the red.
Right. Kelly ain't play, he's the red. Right.
Kelly ain't play.
Kelly ain't play.
Kelly cut butt.
We had to put Kelly up.
Kelly fighting all the males.
Really?
Oh, hell yeah.
You can have a couple of males.
We had a half shot.
Sonny was the biggest one we had.
Sonny probably weighed about 600 pounds.
But we had two Yorkshire Bill and had one named Bill, one named Marvin. They were all white.
Average size, probably about 250, 300.
Right.
But Kelly, that dude rock?
250, 300. Right.
But Kelly, that do rock.
I remember my uncle, them catch him,
had to catch him and my grandfather clipped his,
cause his tusks had started to grow.
And took our boat cutters and cut his tusks.
Dang.
So, yeah, hogs, but we had dogs.
We had a Joe boy.
We had, you know, my grandfather used to have hunting dogs before.
My uncles of them all had hunting dogs.
But probably my first dog that I had that I could say that's mine.
Yeah.
I had two Rottweilers named Kane and Killian. Mm-hmm. I remember my first dog.
My first dog, obviously it was my grandmother's choice.
It wasn't my choice.
We had a Bichon Frise named Studley.
Bichon Frise.
Bichon Frise.
Name Studley.
I never forget.
I never forget.
That was our first dog. And you dog and he passed away and all.
That was enough for me.
Oh, that's how they tell you, bro.
Hey, bro, that was enough for me.
And I had the nerve to try again.
And I had two knee-
You gave away?
Yeah, I had two knee-apologizing massifs.
Yeah.
I said, you know what, y'all would be in better hands
with someone else.
And I gave them to someone responsible.
I think EJ, I think Edwin James,
if I'm not mistaken.
And I knew he would be in good hands with EJ.
I just couldn't do it.
I couldn't bear to deal with that kind of thing.
That pain, boy.
No, man, No, man.
No.
Tiger five stripes.
What's up, Ocho?
My birthday is tomorrow.
I'll be 27 on the 27th.
Can I get a birthday shout out, Ocho?
Any advice for a single man my age
with no kids who recently moved to Texas?
P.S. Saquon, MVP. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You a single man? Talk with no kids who recently moved to Texas. P.S. Saquon MVP.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. You a single man talking about you just moved to Texas
and you ain't got no kids? I give you to the end of the year.
Ah!
Boy, you a single man talking about you just moved to Texas?
Boy, have you seen the material in Texas, boy? What you talking about?
Let me ask you a question. If it's going to be one or two or two for two, girl and kid or just one or the other?
Two for two?
Man, please, to my, boy for one,
hey, happy birthday, young boy, happy birthday.
Yeah, happy birthday, bro.
But listen, I don't even know what part of Texas,
what part of Texas you in, but it don't matter
because they all over the place, you hear me?
They all over the place.
I've been to Texas maybe three, one, two, three, maybe four times
in the entirety of my life.
And the last time I've been there,
I don't got to be there no more to understand, to have a greater understanding.
That's not where I belong.
It's not where I belong.
And I know if you move to Texas, you ain't got no kids.
You just got there.
That means you fresh meat for them, which also means you're a fresh face.
I give you by December, she gonna be pregnant.
And she gonna have a short haircut too.
They dying there.
Oh, they dying there, boy.
Yeah, they will.
Lil Ninja 24, hey Uncle Nocho,
just wanna say I love you guys.
Can you give me and my wife a shout out?
We just had a baby 11 days ago.
I appreciate y'all.
Great night.
Absolutely.
Congratulations, little ninja 24
to you and your wife and the baby.
Hopefully mom and baby are happy and safe and healthy.
That's a big accomplishment.
Hey, your child, the child might not only know
it's nothing but Super Bowls and winning. I mean, just think, Ocho, just think if you a five year old,
you don't know nothing but winning.
That's it.
Like if you born in 2000,
your whole career, you born in Boston, Massachusetts,
you a Patriots fan, all you know is winning.
That's it, yeah.
That's crazy.
So congratulations, bro.
Appreciate that, man.
Thanks for all the support.
Ben 10, hey Uncle Nocho,
love to show my birthday is Tuesday.
Can I get a shout out?
Ben 10, happy early birthday, man.
Hope you got something fun planned.
Don't get in any trouble.
But bro, we thank you for watching us.
Thank you for tuning in.
Thank you for your support and your continued support.
So thank you for that.
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nominated for Outstanding Podcasts Arts Sports and Entertainment. Club She She
was nominated for Outstanding Podcast Society and Culture.
Please go vote for your favorite uncle and nephew, Ocho.
Link pinned to our social bios.
Chiefs headed back to their fifth Super Bowl in seven years.
Third, become the first team to go to three, no, first team since the Buffalo Bills
to go to three straight Super Bowls.
They went to four straight.
Unfortunately, they didn't win any.
Mahomes 32, Bills, unfortunately, 29.
Mahomes is now 4-0 against Josh Allen and the playoffs with four victories with
two of those victories coming in the AFC championship game.
Patrick Mahomes now have 17 postseason wins.
They will be taking on the Philadelphia Eagles
who crush the Washington Commanders.
They force four turnovers, Jalen hurries through for 228
and they ran the ball for 229
as they roll over the Commanders 55 to 23.
And it is a rematch.
Two years ago, the Eagles lost the heartbreaker
to the Chiefs.
The Chiefs try to go three, try to three-peat.
First team in NFL history since the merger, the Super Bowl was enacted
to win three consecutive Super Bowls.
It's going to be a great game.
Again, thank you for joining us.
I'm Unc, he's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow night.
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Hey, it's Bobby Bones.
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Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one
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What's up, everyone?
It's Justin Penick from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast with Bobby
Skinner and Chris Rose.
We roll three times a week on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays, breaking down everything
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We're gearing up for the NFL playoffs.
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Join in with us three times a week.
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What's up everybody?
Adnan Burke here to tell you about a new podcast.
It's NHL Unscripted with Burke and Demers.
Jason Demers here and after playing 700 NHL games,
I got a lot of dirty laundry to air out.
Hey, I got a lot to say here too, okay?
Each week we'll get together to chat
about the sport that we love.
Tons of guests are gonna join in too,
but we're not just gonna be talking hockey, folks.
We're talking movies, we're talking TV, food,
and Adnan's favorite, wrestling.
It's all on Le Table.
Listen to NHL Unscripted with Burke and Demers
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