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Episode Date: January 16, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Iso Joe Johnson are joined by Houston Texans rookie running back Woody Marks joins the show to talk about the Texans big game vs the New England Patriots on Sunday, Jonathan Kuminga has officially demanded a trade from the Golden State Warriors, and Darren Waller says Mike McDaniel was fired minutes after he was told Mike wanted him back and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Texans RB, Woody Marks, joins the show!9:32 - Kuminga demands trade ahead of trade deadline19:50 - Darren Waller tells Mike McDaniel firing story28:49 - Bears-Rams playoff game expected to be one of the coldest in history 35:25 - Eagles GM asked if open to trading AJ Brown40:00 - Athletic released story on Mike Tomlin’s final team meeting44:00 - Davonte Adams urges teammates to not leave L.A.46:2 - Josh Allen changing positions?47:58 - Delonte West arrested55:35 - Q & Aaayyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He had a breakout performance in the Houston 30 to 6 win over the Steelers AFC Wild Card Round, a career best 19 carries, 112 yards, and a touchdown. Harry is the outstanding running back from the Houston Texans, Woody Marks. Woody, how you doing, bro?

What's up, Woody? You muted. I'm doing good. What's up? Okay. We're good. Isso, how you doing, bro? You good?

Yeah, I'm good. Just living. Talk to us about that performance. You guys, you, your best game of your career, and you had it on one of the biggest stages, the NFL, the wild card game. You're in Pittsburgh. You know they do a really good job against the run.

Why were you guys able to have such success running the football that night? Everybody started Wednesday. I knew I knew it was going to have a big game. Just Wednesday practice when we first went out there. The guys was linking up and just moving people off the ball. And then it came on to Thursday. I was like, all right, it's carrying on.

Then Friday, it's carrying on. Then we was like, I'll run a bad coach. He was like, yeah, we're going to have a good night running the ball. It just came to life right there. It seemed like you guys warm down. They had D'Amico on the sideline. He was talking about, That's what I'm talking about.

Where I'm out, where I'm down. And you guys seem, because that last touchdown, you broke like self-made tackled. They were just like, well, the hell with it. It's over. You broke their will. You broke their spirit. Yeah, for sure.

We was wearing them down. We kind of heard them talking on the back end saying like, man, we run it straight at your face. That's what Nick Chubb told us. We got to do. So we come and scrared at your face. They play bully ball. We're going to play bully ball, too.

Hey, hey, Woody. You from the AT. for me. Hey, what's up, bro? Hey, hey, tell me something, what's the biggest, what's the biggest changes from the regular season to the postseason that you notice in this year? Descrut two of it.

You got to be locked in. No plays off. Every play matter. Oh, man. Extra points to kick off how you, what you put in the landmark at, everything matters. Yeah.

What high school do you go to in Atlanta? Clark, Atlanta. Oh, okay, okay. Christian Kirk also had 144 receiving yard. I mean, you guys have your best day on the biggest stage when it's needed the most. I mean, could you, I mean, because your offense struggled a little bit early on. You had three turnovers. Your defense kept, didn't bend and he didn't get, getting concede anything.

But you guys got it together. What was it about that week of practice that let you know that you guys had what it took to go on the road and get a very tough hard fought victory? But you made it look convincing. Yeah, we didn't replay plays. I think we went. I was out fastest on Fridays, not replay plays. So everybody was locked in. So I knew it was going to have a great game.

Yeah. Hey, what is like playing for DeMarco, Woody, considering, you know, him being a former player. And what's that, what's that been like? Oh, it's kind of, it's good. Just seeing him, he'd be over there on the defense side, playing linebacker when we're on scout team. So we see how physically he was. He tried to, he tried to break it.

Like, you don't got no pads, so you better move by the way. Hey, what do you tell him to, hey, DeBico, bro, if I'd have been playing when you would have been playing, when you would have been playing, I'd have ran you. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, you got a very tough opponent. You got the New England,

the Patriots and everybody knows what the Patriots represent, even though Tom Brady is not there. Mike Brable played a number of years with them. He brings that old school coaching, kind of like you guys, very physical in the run game. Play outstanding defense. Do not turn the ball over.

Do not let them have big plays. And the weather prediction is indicating that it might be snow. You guys play indoors. You guys play indoors. You guys play in it. They play indoors. you play in Jacksonville is really nice and sunny. And Tennessee, I don't know when you went to Tennessee.

Sometimes Tennessee, it does get cold in Nashville. But this is what you, you're one step away from being in the AFC championship game. What is your thought process? What is Domeco today was your first day of practice, if I'm not mistaken. So, no, yesterday was your first day of practice. What has been D'Amico's message? We're a tough team. No matter the condition, when they place that ball down,

we're going to get the rocking. That's what we live by. Offense, defense, special team. We all don't get the rocket when they place their ball down. We play inside, but we football players. We don't play it in the rain before. We don't play it in the snow before. Probably not football, but we don't been outside in the snow.

Just playing around as kids. We know the feeling of it. When we get there, we'll be used to it. You play for Cliff Kingsbury at UFC. D'Amico. What's the biggest difference between D'Amico and Cliff? I was with Link, um,

link most of the time. Um, it's really not a difference. Link kind of did the same thing, uh, be over there on scout team, but he was, Linker, yeah,

Linker, yeah, Linker, right. Yeah, he was, he was more of an offense, offensive-minded guy.

Um, Coach D'Amico, he's more of a defensive guy, so you kind of see the difference in between that. But, um, both of them want to run the ball. Um,

just hearing him say, oh, want to run the ball. Um, you got to run a ball. That's, that's what people have been, preaching to me. You got to run a ball and playoffs.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, especially under them conditions. Y'all might be under, you know, this weekend. And you're going to have your lump, your lunch pair ready, ready to go, man. Let's have a big boy pants on. Let me ask you this. Houston. Man, what was it like living in Houston, Woody? Uh-oh. What a lot of liberty. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, we're going to come down there. Hey, Woody, we're going to come down and hang out with it, but tell us about, um, you've been in Atlanta before.

It's about the same. I live with Atlanta. I said that, man. I said it's like a bigger Atlanta. Yeah, it's a bigger Atlanta. About the same thing going on. You got good food. Everything.

What else? Everything you got in Atlanta you got out here. I don't know. I think they got about a little bit more and used it on with it. I ain't lied to you. Yeah, they probably got a little bit more for me. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah.

Hey, you got to spread out there because of me, Ocho and Joe, we need to come out there. We need to do a place to lay our head. We good. I got you. For sure. All right. Say, live.

Now what I'm talking about, Woody. That's what I'm talking about. That's my home boy, y'all. That's my homeboy for the crib for the hate. So, you know, home boys league up. We go, hey, we go out, you know, grab a couple of drinks. That's all, you know. Oh, yeah.

We go over. Everywhere we go. We don't need to have no ride. It's Uber. Yeah. It's going to be good. Black truck. Huh?

Black truck. Black truck. He said, Yeah. Okay, okay. I'm all for that. I'm all for that. Huh?

It's on you, though. Oh, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got to cover that. Yeah. Yeah. What a hospitality. I got you out of. Damn. I got you to crib.

Okay. You know what? That's good enough. That's all I need. That's all I need. Vegas can't be choosing. You know what, you know what? You know what, Woody?

I, we appreciate that. We go, we're going, we're ahead of, we'll handle a black car. We'll do that. Hey, man. congratulations, man. Great work on Monday night, man. Carry it over. You guys look good.

Tell D'Amico, I said, what's up, man. Wish you the best of luck. Good luck, bro. Yes, sir. Woody March, the outstanding young running back for the Houston, Texas, had a breakout game.

19 carries 112 yards. One touchdown. He ran extremely hard all night long. And at the end, it was that running physical style that the Houston Texans' offensive line and running backs played with that finally wore down

in the levy burst. and when he rocked that long, that touchdown run, you could see that was the Pittsburgh Steelers. You saw something you hadn't seen from a Steelers' defense in a very long time. They hung their heads because they know they had thoroughly gotten their ass kicked that night. And listen.

That run game and their defense, that's what kept them in it. That's, that's a thing. Y'all ran so hard. Hey, what are we going to get you out of this, though? But y'all, you ran so hard, man. Mike Tom to step down the next day. He said, man, I don't want to.

on the morning. Is that man, you saw that young man come in there and the other dude did that? The defense beat him like that. Ducees. But appreciate that with it, man. Enjoy it. Enjoy this time, man. Hey, you got something special going. Keep it going, bro. For sure. Thank you. Appreciate you, bro.

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from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or whatever you get your podcast. Excuse me. The Kings and the Mavs have reportedly both shown interest in Kaminga, making them two of the most logical and likely landing spots for him.

The athletic also dropped the story that Kerr had Franz Wagner atop his wish list in the 2020 one draft, but team Governor Joe Lakeham as a driving force behind the choice of Cominga. Well,

the clear one emerged between Wagner and Caminga in the league. Wagner is really good. Really, really good. Now, I'm not saying Camiga, but I don't understand this. I don't understand why they wanted to keep him. They wouldn't player that had him coming out the bench.

He did healthy DMP, coach his decision, coach his decision. Joe, what's going on? I mean, you, you played this game a number of years. You know the inner work and the, and how the NBA is, is really different than the NFL because NFL got a good player, that mofo player. I don't give a damn how much money making. He's playing.

What's going on with Kamenga and Kerr? To the best of your explanation. When, when you have a guy who has pretty good value on, to me it don't make sense for him to sign him and bringing back, but then when you think about it, they brought him back for bait. They know a lot of teams would love to have his service. And I just feel like they would, I feel like they knew they was going to get to this point anyway. They knew they was going to trade him.

They knew they was going to have to trade him. He doesn't fit their system. He doesn't fit what they're trying to do. He don't fit their culture. And I feel like now they're going to try to trade him, which is why they signed him and brought him back. And they knew they was going to get to this point. Now they're just trying to get some, they're trying to get something of value for him. Well, they could have did a sign and trade.

they could have signed him and traded him at this offseason. Probably, it probably wasn't nothing out there. The market probably ain't been their great for him. If you just want me to be 100 with you, the market probably hasn't been great for him, and they've tried to play him so he can create, you know, more value for himself, and I don't think that has happened.

Yeah. So now they're just trying to figure it out. Yeah, because I didn't understand. I mean, you decided me bringing back. I was like, well, hell, he's going to be starting. And he started. I think he started a couple of games. and then he went right back to the bench

playing the same number of minutes and then he stopped, they stopped playing him. So the problem was he ain't raised enough, he didn't throw enough chairs. He ain't kick enough people in the ass. He ain't do, he ain't raised enough hell to be honest with you, Joe. He ain't raising enough hell. Nope, nope.

And look, the honest, the real thing is his game doesn't fit what the Warriors system is, what they're trying to do. Because he's not like a catch and shoot guy. Nope. You know, you kind of, he likes to get downhill. He's based with Jimmy Butler.

There you go. He likes to get down here, but he has great size, great athleticism. And I can see the promising, you know, in his game. So like I said, man, it should be a few teams who are looking for his service on, so they probably just trying to figure out the best deal at this point. But here's another thing. You knew his system, his style of play didn't fit the system. But see, this is why own owners always intervening.

Yeah. Steve Kerr won all these championships. Now all of a sudden, far. And that system? Oh, yeah. The way he can catch and shoot, he can put it on the floor, he can shoot the three. He can pass it.

He can post up. He can pass. Yes. Yeah, I agree. But I don't think nobody knew France was going to be this good, neither, huh? Yeah. And the question is, and see, it's easy to do that. Would he have been that with Steph Curry?

Right. That's the thing. See, people are like, well, look at what he's doing now. Would he have been that with Steph? He was getting all the shots. So I guess they say, well, the ball's going to move, but, but he needs the ball. He's not KD. KD can be efficient with 15 shots.

He can get your 25 on 12 shots. He can get your 30 on 15 shots. Yeah. They're two totally different players. And I think sometimes we get caught up. Well, we see what that guy doing over there. But can he do that over here when they play winning basketball? If you lose it, a lot of teams,

I believe it's easier to get buckets on a losing team, Joe, than it is on the winning team. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. You play on the winning team. That mean you're playing with guys with high IQs who really know how to play the game and they're going to make the game easier for you.

You play on them losing teams, man. You know, losing teams find a way to beat themselves. It's just what it is. And then you play with guys just trying to get numbers. There you go. You're playing with guys who's just trying to get numbers because they're trying to get another contract, man. Correct.

And that's how to lose and starts, because you're exhausting all your options and then you wanna pass this fireball to me with three seconds on the clock, now I gotta go into my bag. Yeah, and then when I look, man, they're looking at my average, my shooter percentage.

Yeah. Y'all didn't see that they pass me the ball to the end of the shot clock and I had to get three of the faves off. Y'all don't wanna talk about that, but you're talking about, man, I ain't shoot before, I ain't shoot with 45%. Hey, hey, but look,

that's why you see guys gonna be shooting them half court in them long shots. They're like, man, shit. Them shots, that mess up your average. Yeah. You see the NBA at the end of the, I think that was the end of the quarter, they don't count them anymore? In a quarter and a half.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, well, damn. I'm letting them go now. Yeah. Yeah. If it go in, I get the credit. If it don't, it don't harm it.

There you go. Yeah. Let me get that. Come on. Give me that. Give me that. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

But, hey, boy, you used to see guys on, they wouldn't shoot it. I don't care. I don't. They act like. They act like they tried to shoot it, but they weren't trying to get a thing on. It's the same thing. I've seen quarterbacks at the end of the,

they didn't want to throw the hell Mary. They throw the checkdown. Right. At the end of the, you know, right before halftime. They don't get no interception. No, hell, no. They don't want no interception on incompletion. I'm trying to keep my completion percentage up.

And my, guys wouldn't throw deep. Guys take the check down because they don't want to run the risk. They want a high completion percentage. Man, throw the damn ball. Oh, so you think, check that ball down, that man will go 85 yards. No, he ain't got to go 80.

Hey, he ain't got to go 85, but if he could get a little to 12 on what I already got, then I take that, yeah. Exactly. Do you think this situation is creating animosity between Kaminga and the Warriors? Yeah. Yeah, because I think in his heart of hearts, I think Kaminga knew going into this season on what it would be. You know what I mean?

I think it was a disdain from him in the organization this summer trying to get a new contract and once they were able to get one, I still don't feel like he was happy. You can kind of, you know, you can look at body language and tell when guys out there playing if they really enjoy it and having fun. You know what I mean? Yes. Like when I watch the game, that's one of the major things I'm looking at is body language, how you interact with your teammates, things of that sort, because that's, that, that plays a huge

dividends on wins. Yeah. And I think the thing is, is that I think deep down on his side, that's why he waited to the very last minute, decided. this contract. Yeah. Because he knows, he's like, you know what, I'm going to be back in the same situation. And if I'm going to be in the same situation, y'all going to give me a little

bit more money. Because all I'm going to do is be mad. Yeah. And to keep me from, you know, acting a donkey, give me a couple of, seven, eight more million dollars and shorten that contract from three years to two years. Yeah. And I also think, I also think they tried to trade him this summer too. Like I said, I just, I'm not sure his value was that high. So the market wasn't where it needed to be. Right.

I don't think the market was where it needed to be. So they just felt signing them would be the best thing, just bringing back. And then, you know, when you get to this bridge here, you know, we're across when we get to us. So now they're at the point. They got to make a decision. You're right. They got to make a decision. And he wanted that decision like yesterday.

Yeah, absolutely. He wanted that decision in the summer. He's like, I don't know where I'm going. But that anywhere be better than here. This man been getting DMPs. I'm talking about when they've been having guys out when they needed him. Joe, if you think about it, look at what he did.

He played really well in the postseason. Yeah. He played really well. And I'm like, oh, he's showing him what he can do. Oh, he's extremely athletic. I mean, he'll knock down occasional three, but his thing is based on athleticism getting to the rim. Yeah.

I think him and Kurt just got a disdain somewhere. I don't know where it happened or if it's Kaminga's play. Because, you know, like, he ain't really like no playmaker neither. You know, like you say, he's a downhill bandit. Obviously, defensively, he can reg have it. He can guard probably one through five. He can rebound. I think he'll be a pretty good defensive player.

But offensively, he just hadn't fit their system. Based on what they want to do. Now, he might go to a system, go to another situation, Joe, where it's not as much ball movement as it is in Golden State, and it's a little bit more, you know, ISO, and he's able to get the ball in his hand and get down here. He might look like a superstar. Yeah, how much they're going to win.

Right, kind of like Porter Jr. for the Nets, for the Brooklyn Nets. He said, he said, man, I can average 25, 26 points a game. and he's over there doing it. They're a bad team. Now, they get their butt kicked every night, but he over there putting them numbers up. Yeah, at which of Parley into another big contract.

There you go. There you go. But they might end up getting off port over there. Who? The Nets. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He got so much value right now. He already don't want a championship.

You know he can play with other great players. Yep. I think he wanted this situation kind of for himself. I agree. Because he knows he was going to be the fourth option.

There you go. Yokic, Murray, Gordon, him. Yeah, he's tired of playing in the background. Yeah. Darren Waller went on

Johnny Mansell's Glory Days podcast and told a story about how he and Mike McDaniel was talking one-on-one during the end of their season meeting when owner

Stephen Ross walked in. McDaniel had literally just told Waller that he wants him back in 20, 26. Ross joined in the conversation for a bit. Then the conversation got quiet.

And Waller got the sense that he should leave the room. He checked his phone 20 minutes later and Mike McDaniel was fired. I was at the scene of the crime. The NFL is a wild business, Joe. That's how I go? It's cut though like that. I didn't look. Dan Reeves and when Coach Reeves and John was having their issues,

John Dan was like Tom, Coach Landry, run the football, we're not going to put the ball in harm's way, we're going to try to play great defense, and then Roger Starback was there. Roger would win it. Roger the Dodger.

And that's why John Elway had so many, that's why John had so many comebacks. Because we wouldn't do anything for four quarters, for three and a half quarters, and the game would still be close, and John would win it in the end. It is. and it's really tough,

but I've never heard a situation like this. Normally, hey, the owner called you to his office. Right. The owner, like the owner walked in to the coach's office when he's doing end of season interviews, exit interviews. He walked in. Yes. That's really wild.

Normally, they call you into their meeting and call you into their office or the general manager, you know, they have a conversation. We're going in a different direction. but I've never heard of a situation like this. So they find, I had a conversation.

We're going to, I think we're talking about Steve. No. Where he called John Harbaugh on the phone. He said, he said, I thought it would be a, you know,

an anatomy move. Like, the man had just left and say, turn around and meet me back at the, you know, at the office, an hour. It was just like, you know,

hey, you're going to do what you're going to do. Just let me. And, you know, it was tough. Um, I mean, telling somebody is fired is not easy. Right.

I mean, because he's had success. He's the winning his coach. And the organization is only 30 years of age, but he's winning his coach and their young tenure. You got, look, you got Lamar. Yeah. So it was a very appealing job. You got Lamar.

You got a quarterback. You got a two-time MVP quarterback. Hold on. Is this contract up? Is he ready? Is he feeling a sign? No, no, no. No, no.

No, no. This contract's not up, but they got to do something. He's got like a $75, $76 million cap here. So they, uh, and Steve Ashati, uh, um, has made it abundantly clear he wants Lamar. If Lamar wants that. If not, he'd say, hey, we'll play it out and move, move on. Mm.

But, uh, he wants it because he know, Steve, look, Steve is very matter of fact. He laid it on the table and said, look, I want to do this thing for another 10 years. I'm 65. I say, I'm looking at it from 75. Now, if we had a couple of baseball, season when I met that age, I'm probably going to sell the team. If we had a couple of good seasons, I'm probably going to keep holding on.

But anyway, he said, I'm looking to move on. He said, I'm not going to get this thing. It's not going to my family. He said, it caused too much problems. Yeah. Because I've seen it turn families against each other, and that's not going to happen. I believe that abundant lick clear. So, so who do you think you're going to bring in?

Woo. What's a good, what's a good candidate? I mentioned the name Clint Kubiak. Clint Kubiak is the office of coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks. I played with Clint's dad. I remember Clint was he was a kid, running shagging balls and being the ball boy on the field for us. When he couldn't have been no more than like six or seven.

Yeah. Maybe eight. His dad was my quarterback with the backup to John, and then he was my offensive coordinator. So I've been knowing them, and he's really good. But you see the imagination that he has with Seattle's offense. You saw what JSCN did in Jigba. They run the football, that West Coast system.

You've got to run it. Then they play action pass. And he has a quarterback. His quarterback in Baltimore is better than the quarterback that he has in Seattle. Yeah. So I can just imagine with his imagination and that quarterback and that running back to be able to run the football like they can run it. And play action off of that.

Yeah. What, what, Dick Henry got another year over there? Got two years. Two years. Mm-hmm. And he finished second. He was second last year in Russian over 19,

two years ago with over 1,900 yards. He was second in the league in Russian bench year with like 50, over, almost 1,600 yards. He still got tread on the tire. He still got, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And so I'm, I'm, they got to, but they got, hey, they got to get,

the number one thing they got to get, whoever, whatever guard is available. And for instance, the Baltimore got to sign it. They got to get, they got to get, they got to get that left, that left, that right guard up out of there. They, he killing Lamar. He killing Lamar and the running game. But, and they need some defense, Joe. Yeah, they do.

They can stay can't, they can't, they can't put, they can put some points over. Boy, they can't stop nothing. Can't stop nobody. They can't stop nobody. They can't move games out. It's definitely an enticing job, though. Yeah, yeah. You know, you know, what, what having Lamar and Henry back there.

I'm surprised, you know, ain't no coaches jumped on that situation already. Well, I think maybe some of the coaches that they're interested in are still in the playoffs, so you can't get anybody right now. You had a window, the Broncos and the Seahawks, so you could interview coaches in that window, via Zoom, obviously.

But if your team was in the playoff, you can't talk until after your season's over. So now there'll be another break in between the NFC, AFC, between the championship games and the Super Bowl. So there's a dead weekend there in which you can interview via Zoom for a job. But yeah, you got to get the right coach in this situation because you got too much at stake. You got too much ride on it.

You got Lamar Wright smack dab in his prime window. You got Derek Henry that has a couple more years left. You got to get this thing right. Yeah. Get this thing right. Because you look, Drake May. Yeah. You got Josh Allen.

You got CJ Stroud, you got Bo Nix, you got Trevor Lawrence. So it's not getting any easier. No, so not. But they got some talent, boy. They got some talent over there. They got some offensive talent. I don't know how much defense talent they got. Yeah, they ain't got no, they need some help defensively.

Yeah, I like say Flowers. I like Derek, I like Henry, obviously. I like Lamar. I'm surprised that what they did with Andrew. because basically they're saying by to likely. Oh, are they? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You're not going to, I mean, you gave, you gave Andrews, what, three years, 40 million? Isn't that what he's signed for? Yeah, it's, you're not bringing him back because somebody's going to pay him big money. Yeah. Yeah. I thought, I thought they would let Andrews go and then keep, keep likely.

but three years 40 yeah so I was I was surprised by that move but they need defense they need past rushes they need past rushes they need them bad too really bad yeah they they gave what they were what they was in the defensive defensive rating they was near the bottom this year the two cornerbacks gave up the most yardage

them boy was getting smoked out there boy But when you can't rush the pass, I mean, what are your options? You can't hold up all day and they couldn't rush the quarterback. They couldn't get the quarterback office mark. So the quarterback just back there pat the ball, pat the ball, pat the ball. So it's tough. Every January, we're encouraged to start over. But what if this year is about slowing down and learning how to understand ourselves more deeply?

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on the Iheart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or whatever you get your podcast. The Bears Ram playoff game is expected to be one of the coldest games in NFL history. Joe, look at this video of blizzard conditions happening right. now coming off Lake Michigan. 60 mile now winds. Heavy snow are leading to nearly no visibility. Man, can't nobody play no football in there.

If it's like that, they're going to be out there. They're going to be playing in this? Hell yeah. Man, come on. The wind chills are expected relayed between zero and 10 minus 10 degrees throughout day on Sunday. Wind gusts up to 20 miles an hour. The Rams haven't played in the game below 50 all season.

According to NFL stats, Matthew Stafford and bad weather games with the Rams, cold, rain or snow, 1 in 8, 54.6 completion percentage, 14 touchdowns, 11 interception. Excuse me. Look at this. We're going to turn the sound. Listen to the sound, Joe. All right. I'm cold.

I'm cold right here. Hey, ain't no way they're going to play in that. Hey, hold on, hold on. You think the fans going to be filled up to? Absolutely. Oh, no. Because fans get a kick out of sense. I was at that game.

When you played the Ice Bowl, when it was 27, 30, you go back and look at Cincinnati, San Diego. I think that was, uh, 1981. Wind chill was like 50, like, go back and look at the, the charges against Cincinnati. I think the wind chill was like 40, 50 degrees below zero.

What was the wind chill? Hey, if they're playing in anything close to this, what I'm looking at, I got the bear. I'm taking the bears this weekend. Yeah, I remember. Joe, 1981, the Chargers played Cincinnati, wind chill, minus 59. The man said, 1981. I remember the game. That's what I told me.

The Chargers. The Chargers had just beat the Dolphins. Kelly Winslow had a historic game, unbelievable, end up blocking a field goal. They wanted to have to carry him off the field. And for his Herculean effort, go to Cincinnati, 59 below. They got thumped. I think they lost 27-0-0. 59.

What was the final score? Below. 27-7, okay. Oh, so that's why you don't remember. You were just being born. Oh, born in 81. I don't know what's going on. Oh, you played in weather like that before?

I remember that game. I'm saying you didn't play it or something like that? I think one of the coldest game I played. We played in Green Bay in 96. It was about 13 degrees, minus 13. And we played the chiefs in the divisional round in 90. It was in 98. So it was probably January of 98.

What was the temperature in 96? It was December of 96. Hey, hey, what, what, like getting hitting that type of temperature in their weather. What that ground felt like? Man, that thing, like on cement. Joe, I ain't going to lie, Joe. I'm glad Mike did see me.

I had construction gloves on. I wouldn't, oh, but, but I caught a pass. I caught the well past they threw me. Hey, well, I couldn't even imagine, huh? Minutes 17 in Green Bay, right? Yeah. What was the, what was the, uh, the, the, uh, the, uh, the Kansas city was. Hey, how the bands ain't got no

dome over there, man? You take away the advantage. Man, man, come on, man. We don't get to see Minnesota used to play outside before they got the dome. And boy, it's cold in Minnesota. Yeah. The Chiefs was January of 90, it was January of 98. January, no,

it was January of 99. January of 99. Man, under these conditions here, man, I don't know how you can get out there and play, man. Not, not in that. not in that type of weather we just seen. Hey, you know, hey, Joe, you know you got to go out there. We had no sleep.

Hey, I had to show them, I had to show them guns. I had that vast lead on the outside of the face. You don't know what I'm saying? Listen, so why dudes be coming out there with their shirts off and all that warming up before the game when it's like that? I don't know what them food's thinking. I ain't going out there until I have to absolutely have to. I'm not going out there.

I ain't, hey. I'm competing against my opponent and his weather. So I am not going out there until. I absolutely have to. The heart is easier to play in it than practice in it. It's when it's practice when you don't have those heat, those heat is benches and you don't have the adrenaline going. Right, right, right.

Oh, my gosh. I can't even imagine, boy. Hey, boy, you say hi. What's up, big fella? Tell him your name. He said my name, Teddy Bear. Listen, he, he, he, um.

Hey, look, he had my daddy home. Boy, is he? Man, as soon as I came through the door, man. Man, Titus doesn't rip my Montclair jacket. Oh, man. I said, boy. But, yeah, them Joe's here, they, hey, once I come home, they ain't got nothing to do with Auntie no more.

He said, I got my, he got my pajamas on. He said, Daddy, this player, is my bedtime. But, oh, yeah, Joe, that's the whole thing. that's the thing why if you're a cold weather team, you want to get home field. I want the Rams. You play in that dome. Yeah, yeah.

You played in Carolina. It was a little cold, but you don't know cold yet. Right. Not that Chicago cold. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about, I want to be cold. The sun,

the sun come up with an overcoat on. That's not cold a deal, that's what I'm saying. That's not cold a deal. If they're going to be playing in that, that's damn sure what it's going to be. Yeah. You see staff.

got overcoats and scullies on. No, man. No, man. That's going to be a tough one now, especially for the round. Today's Eagle's general manager, Howard Roseman, was asked whether he's open to trading, AJ Brown, to which Roseman responded, it's hard to find great players in the NFL,

and AJ is a great player. That's what we're going out looking for. When we go out in free agency and the draft is trying to find great players who love football, and he's that. So that would be my answer. The question is, look, they understand it's hard to replace, because I know what he is.

Yeah. He's a proven commodity. Yeah. He's a pro-bow, all-pro Super Bowl winning player. Yeah. When he wants to be that. Yeah. And this year, for whatever reason, look, it's just hard.

I don't, I don't know, I honestly, I don't know what motivates. I don't know what happens. because he's like when he won the Super Bowl he's like it wasn't fulfilling. Well, if you got, if you're making money, you want, you've been an all pro,

you go to Pro Bowl, you win the Super Bowl, what is, what is left? If I got a 30 plus million dollar contract, I'm a Pro Bowl player, I'm an all pro player, and I'm a Super Bowl.

And the Super Bowl isn't fulfilling, but I don't really know what else there is. Hey, if you play a sport, Joe, you go, Joe, You, you, an all-N-B-A, all-star, you win a champion, and you like, and you're making $40 million a year,

and you win the championship, and they come to you and say, Joe, how you feel? Like, I'm not, it's not as fulfilling as I thought. No, no, I ain't gonna say that. But I think, I ain't gonna say that. I ain't gonna say that, but I know for some guys, man, when they feel like, they ain't bawling or doing their thing out there,

man, they want, they want their stats over, Now, they may not come out and say it, but that's what they want. It's like, man, we won a championship, but man, they ain't have a 20 yards and two catches. Hey, go look at my Super Bowl numbers. There ain't nothing, but I got three rings and I'm going to pass down to each of my kids.

Hey, that wasn't, the game plan didn't call for Shannon Sharp to go haywire. Right. I'm okay with that. because at the end of the day, I was making good money, I've been a pro bowl player, I was an all pro.

After you become an all pro, after you become a pro bowl player, the only thing left is won a championship is to solidify. Make sure people know that all those catches and yards and everything that you was doing, well, yeah, you did that,

but how many games did you win? Did your stats go to winning? Look at my numbers. When I caught for 100 yards or caught a touchdown, we won't. Yeah. That's all I cared about.

I want to win. All that other stuff, that's why I didn't get up and look and I look back at it I say man I could have easily gone to John and say hey bro hey I need five yards but I ain't never ask him to throw me the ball right so they know what I can do

I used to get upset Joe you know then I'm bull-jotted around all game long now here come to fourth quarter we're down 14 you're going to ask me what I like yeah now they're looking for you like for this game to be over so I get my ass on that bus and get home you should ask me this in the first quarter which all over to spread it around

Yeah, yeah. Let everybody, hey, let everybody judge it. Okay. Yeah. Keep doing what you doing. Yeah, hey, look, but like I said, you know, some cats want a ball, go, hey, look, I remember it too, you know, coming down, it's the last five to seven minutes of a game.

Now all of a sudden, everybody looking for you. They're looking for Joe to get us up out this rut. Man, what we've been doing the whole game? You're going to be giving me the ball. Yeah, so I understand, man. I understand. Hey, we're going to write this out where we're in this pit. We're gonna run one-fold Joe.

You at the top? Yeah. And look, we ain't ran it all their game. Why y'all run right now? Yeah. Yeah, I know exactly what you said. Yeah, we shouldn't have been read this in the first, second quarter, man. What you're looking for?

I think your brother on the floor, sweet. Oh, he ain't sweet, but he died there. Thanos. Yeah. No, this is not, this is not Thanos in my lap. This teddy bear in my lap. The Athletic released the story today on Mike Tomlin's final team meeting with the Steelers players and the surreal scene surrounding it. Mike Tomlin told his team,

I think it's best for the organization for me to step down. T.J. Watt had tears welling in his eyes and kept repeating. No, no, no, as Tomlin told the team, Joy Porter Jr. was reportedly hyperventilating. Aaron Rogers was sobbing and repeatedly saying, I'm sorry. The Steelers player gave Tomlin. a standing ovation. That's what's up, man. That's when you know your guys respect you, bro.

Yep. They respect the heck out there, man, man, and what he's done for that organization. Yes. Yeah, and as a player, it definitely hurts you because, you know, you feel like you was a part of him getting out of there. Yeah, that's why those guys so hurt. They feel like, man, if we would have played at our highest peak,

we could have avoided it. situation. So yeah, I can see why guys really taking it hard. I've done that. I remember as I got older, I remember saying Coach Reeves, because the gym I used to go to, the church that he attended would

was right across the street. And I remember, I remember, like I was saying, you probably didn't close it down. But anyway, and I saw him, and I just, I remember going to him to say, coach, I'm sorry. Yeah. He said, Shannon. He's known what they never called me

by my last name or called me, or called me 84, you'd always call me Shannon. He'd say, Shannon, what do you? I said, coach, I said, had I been the player that I became, maybe I could have saved the job. Right. And he just told me, he said, son, he said, that's nice of you to say,

but you ain't got nothing to apologize for. He said, I'm proud that we drafted you. I'm proud of the player that you became. Same thing with Wade Phillips. I was that player. I had became that player, but I did, I did all I could. But I had, you know, 2,000 yard receiving,

had like 180 catches. Yeah. It just wasn't meant to be, like 178, 1608 catches. It just wasn't meant to be, Joe. And then we didn't Mike. But I hate, because that happened on my watch. Yeah. What could I have done differently?

And I know for certain, I'm not sure, besides getting injured and having to take them, and I wasn't 100%. Had I do believe had I became the player that I later became that ended up going into the pro football, of Fame, I do believe I could have saved Dan's career. Yeah. I believe I could have saved them in Denver.

Now, maybe at a late at any time, Mr. B one, maybe Mr. B just wanted to go in a completely different direction. Right. Maybe, maybe so, because Coach Reeves had been to three Super Bowls, um, lost the AMC championship game. So it wasn't like he was losing, but he just wanted to go in, and, in a different direction. But it's tough.

Yeah. If you care. Now, if you don't care, some, People like, hey, players get cut all the time. I don't look at it like that. Hey, look, my first year in Brooklyn, when I got traded to Brooklyn from Atlanta, I played, Avery Johnson was our head coach. Great dude, great dude.

Accountability, like, he going to be on you. Like, he's going to ride you hard, you know, tell you what the do's and don'ts. But, man, he was a hell of a coach, bro. I loved him as a coach. And for us to get off to such a slow start, my first year in Brooklyn, I think it was kind of why he got fired. Because it happened on the off day for us. I'm at home.

I'm watching ESPN. Ain't nobody called and been like, oh, we're going to get rid of Avery Johnson today. I'm watching on ESPN like everybody else. It comes across breaking news. I'm like, damn. So, yeah, I understand as a player, bro, you take heart to that because I'm like, yeah. Such a dope coach, bro.

Devonty Adams says he told his teammates, including Pookin de Kua, that they should never leave L.A. because it ain't greener than this, referencing his experience leaving the Packers and being with the Raiders and the Jets. Yep. That's absolutely true. Yeah.

And, you know, getting a chance to play with another great quarterback and Matthew Stafford, who throwing that pill around the way he do. Yeah. Yeah. I think the thing, look, I think the thing with Tate is that

he wanted to get something done. He wanted to get something done before he got to the, before, and then when the season came and they didn't do anything, and then he goes out and has a monster season. Now all of a sudden, he's like, nah,

y'all don't risk, made me put this on the line. Y'all knew what I could do. Yeah. And y'all make me go through this. And I think, I think a part of it, a part of his pride was hurt

because they didn't do it. Now, he goes to the Raiders, his college teammates there. Yeah. So it's not like he doesn't know what he's getting into. Yeah. But after one year,

they let his teammate go. Yeah. He's stuck. And then he goes to the Jets and that dysfunctional organization and even though he got Aaron Rogers won't the best. Nope.

Nope. And he got over there to the Rams. I'm talking about done a number. You got an offense in mind. You got a quarterback. You're in a controlled environment because think about who you play. You got the Cardinals.

They play inside. Yeah. So that's nine of your games right there that you're going to be in 72 degrees. Mm. Now, you must be ready to get somebody in the AMC and get a couple more games. That's, hey, that's 10.

Well, some years that you have nine games because some years you have, you know, nine home games, eight and eight road games. Yeah. I mean, yeah. So he's right. He's right. Right, but everybody's always thinking that, you know, the grass is greener and if you got a historic quarterback, you better stay your ass with it.

Now, you might go miss some money now, but the numbers, they ain't going to be the same. The numbers start slipping. Everybody's going to say, see, you are a product of that system. Yeah. Yeah, you got somebody throwing you that pill, boy, don't take it for granted. Absolutely not. Josh Allen was playing long snapper at the team's practice the day before their playoffs. game. Check this video out, Joe.

Long snap. Come on, what do you got going on? I guess he's the emergency long snapper. Nope. I didn't want to do nothing. They're like, hey, we got this reverse. Let foot run it. You ain't want no problem. I don't want no.

Throw me the ball. Don't hand it to me. I'm done with that. I got my running back day when I was in high school. Once I was a junior, going into my senior year, I left the running back position. I got tired of people talking about my bad shark. Man, man, man, man, man, man, that's me.

That's me. Nah, bro. Who ain't talking about like missing? Yeah, they missed the block, man, my bad, my bad. My bad. Man, by the dude, they got my helmet twisted, Joe. You're talking about my bad. I'm good.

Nah, don't hand me no ball. Throw it to me down the field. Oh, shit. And see the thing is, you can't hit the long. You used to could punish the long snapper. You can't hit him now, so. Yeah, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, got a little soft. They got a little soft.

He's like, come on, man. What we got going? Oh, man. Joe, another sad story. Delante West was arrested for allegedly robbing someone of $23 per TMZ. What we're being told is that he's taken into custody without further incident and posted a $1,000

bond when they say the total amount taken from the victim was around $23. Damn. Joe, do you know, have you You know him? Have you ever been, had any contact with him? No, I just played against him.

But obviously, I'm paying attention and I see what's going on. You know, it hurts to see him in those situations, man. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because I know people have reached out and tried to help him. Yes. Obviously, he probably just, he don't want it, you know, due to whatever issues he's dealing with. Yeah.

You know, sometimes, man, you can do whatever. you can to try and help somebody, but you gotta want it. I had Mark Cuban on my podcast and he said he'd say Shannon, we did everything we could and we thought we had him there. We thought we thought and he just left. And he's like, you know,

and I reached out personally and did things. He's like I don't really know, I don't really know what else to do. Right. Unless that individual really wants to help and they say you let him hit rock bottom. I mean, I don't think you can go any lower than

what he's already gone. Nah. But you just, and I understand addiction is one day. I mean, because an addiction, okay,

you, you, you, sobriety. You know, I hear people say, I've been sober. Chris Carter tells the store

all the time. He knows the exact days, how many days he's been, you know, sober. Yeah. But every day, every day,

you know, you got to go by a bar or a package store or when you go to the store and you got to say no. Yeah. And that's hard. If you got to gambling addiction,

you got to go, if you go to the casino and you got to, you got to say the park, you just got to say no. If you got a shot, whatever the case may be, you just got us every single day for the rest of your life. And that's hard, bro. It is. When you're recovering, whatever you're recovering from, like, it's hard.

Like, you know, my pops passed away in July. He was, you know, recovering drug and alcoholic. So I know, I know what it looked like. You know what I mean? And you can't, it, I don't care what you do for that person, bro. Like, it's, they have to want it. They have to want to get better for them. They got to want it more for themselves than you want it for them.

Yeah. It's what I told my kids. I said, I can't want something for you more than you wanted for yourself. Absolutely. And that's, you know, hey, my dad, my dad had an alcohol problem and it ended up causing him, you know, he had both of his cheekbones removed. And he just, he was embarrassed about coming around. And, you know, he's like, I don't want my kids to see you see me like that. Yeah.

And at that point in time, I just wanted to see him because I had only seen him once in my life to know who I was actually looking at. Like, this man is my father. Yeah. He came and, you know, my grandmother came and got me from Chicago and brought me and my brother back on the train. I was three months old. My dad showed back up and took me back to Chicago when I was seven months old. And then we got sent me and my brother and my sister. We came back down.

I was two. My sister was 10. and my brother was five. And so we had been, at that point in time, we had been, so since 1970, I had lived with my grandmother and my grandfather. And I remember I was coming, we came home from church.

And he was, he was in the driveway. And I remember, granted asking me, do I know who it is? And I was like, the man looked like me, so he got to be my dad. But I had,

I had never seen him. I had never seen him. for just a couple of pictures of it. And I remember, I remember getting out of the car and I got over there and hug and he asked, he asked Papa, he said, Mr. Barney, can I take the boys overnight? He's like, you know, they got the, you know, they got school tomorrow.

He's like, yes, I know, I'll make sure they get to school. Yeah. So we went home, he got, we got him and he got us, got some clothes, change clothes that we were going to sleep bed clothes to sleep in and school clothes. and slept in the bed with him and he got us up and told us he,

I'll never forget, he took me to school, dropped me out first, told me he loved me that he'll see me again soon. This was had to be 70, 73, 74? I think I was in kindergarten. I was in kindergarten the first grade. So it was 73, 74. And say, I love you and I see y'all.

I see y'all again soon. next time I saw him, 1981, he laid him the casket. Damn. So, but that was, you know, he had alcohol problems and just couldn't shake it.

Yeah. And, you know, I mean, I think he was more embarrassed that, you know, that he wasn't able to be what he thought he should be. Because, you know, my

granny and papa been married had been married at that point in time they got married in what 23 Papa died in

77 grandma Charlie and Granddad Williams had been married already been married like you know all those years

so he saw his mom and dad married yeah my grandma you know mama mom and dad married

and but you can't measure your by somebody else's success. And that was his first mistake. But he didn't know. He didn't know.

And I don't hold that against my father. I do wish, like when I saw fathers would come to the game and see their sons, I wish, you know, my dad could see me. My mom came. I made sure my son got an opportunity to see what I did. But yeah, I wish that. Yeah.

But that wasn't in the cards. That wasn't in the cards for us. So. But I understand the situation. I understand when somebody has an addiction. Oh yeah. Nothing you can do, bro. Nothing.

And, you know, you think you can fix it. You think you can help. But you came, man. I mean, my pop's, he spent a lot of time in the penitentiary aunt, and he got out and I moved him here to Atlanta with me. I was 26 years old at the time, so I was six years into the NBA. That probably was the worst.

that probably was the worst move. I'm going to be honest with you. Bringing him here to Atlanta? But Joe, you thought you being a son, you're in a position to help. You thought you were helping. Yeah.

Yeah. You did what most sons would do in a situation that can help help. Yeah. Boy, yeah, he had these people by his fingertip on. He go to the game. He sit courtside, kick his shoes off. He's sitting over there with no shoes.

on. I talked to him after the game. I said, hey, man, you can't be sitting over there bro with no shoes on. He said, man, these shoes ain't made to be worn all day, man. You got to take these things out. My feet hurt. Yeah. Country as he want to be. Country as he want to be. He said, my son, my son started team. I ain't wearing no shoes. I'm home. That man sitting over there with no shoes on, man. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Man. At Doves, I watched the Elway dock and thought I was tripping when I saw Rich Carlos kick a field go barefooted in the cold in Cleveland. What's the story with him kicking barefooted?

Rich was gone when I got there. There used to be a lot of Tony Franklin was another barefooted kicker. He's from the University of Texas, and he kicked for the Philadelphia Eagles barefooted. I know Ash going to check that and see if I'm Rich Carlin, but they used to be barefooted kickers. I don't think they've ever been a barefooted punter, but yeah, they were barefooted kickers. Why is that? They just felt better kicking the ball with a barefoot as opposed with a shoe on. Oh, no.

Yeah. My who? Lansford. For the Rams? I'm sorry. Man, why? Joe, why are you talking about it? You do.

That's one of the perks of being old. I remember all these guys. I mean, like I said, some guys, just feel more comfortable kicking barefooted. Not me, I don't remember no barefooted punters, but there are barefooted three. Dr. Frank M. Bellamy, tell me who won in bowling, and I don't want to hear, see what happened was.

We keep it on the low. We keep it on the low. We keep it on the low. We keep it on the hook. Y'all see when he come out. Woo. But I'm telling you, we had us a ball. There was a time to behave.

Yeah, it was nice. It was nice. All I know is I ain't finish it last. Mikey Jones, how come the X, NFL doesn't have tight ends as versatile as Hernandez was on the Patriots, tight ends that can play X, Y, Z running back. John Smith, they lined him up.

He scored a touchdown, hand the ball off to him. They are. Yeah, he's a quarterback. wire receiver, tight in. What's the, uh, number seven, Bamee, Taysam Hill. They are.

Elpray 98, unc is my birthday, and it'll be a pleasure spending it with you two. Where's your birthday? Today? Ah, man, I appreciate that. Appreciate you two.

Then to watch your, uh, Joe and I handles, handles the hold his thing down with Ocho on the plane. Yeah, having a birthday, bro.

Slobbing on them people pillar. Oh, man. Almighty James, I remember when night cap first started and aunt was calling Ocho Tio. Now he calling Joe Ocho. Kevin Boat Knight, Shannon, you're the greatest tidying ever. Help us out.

Kittle is out. Third downs go to go. Come on. Man, please. Man, if y'all know how I feel from bowling, my knees killing me. I was about to pull my glute, Joe. Was you?

Yeah, man, that's why I said, man, look here. And you notice, you see how I started throwing me? the ball. Yeah, how you start hooping it down there? Yeah, but, hey, Joe, I was like, man, the last thing I need is to pull my glute because I know ain't no way in hell Ash going to edit that out.

I'm going to be on the floor. I said, oh, no. Hey, look, it's all them antics you were doing. Yeah, yeah, all of the actors he had going on. Oh, you ain't seen that yet. You wait. You got three, no, I ain't got no downs. I ain't got nothing, bro.

I can't help you. Deshawner, win to the big three. coming to Charlotte. Look, we're going to put together probably about five, probably about five cities that we're going to hit this summer. Ocho, Joe, and I. So Charlotte might be on that list, bro. Eric Jordan Scott, I'm going to check out the real.

I'm going to let y'all know if it's good or not. That live stream was hilarious. One of Ocho would actually be a liability in that scenario. Absolutely. Yeah, no question. One thousand percent. No question. Listen, you are already know it. Hey, look, I'm glad we kind of, just in case we get into a sticky situation like

that, I know who not, I know who not to call. Oh, what? Yeah, yeah. Look, if you tell Ocho, you might as well just call the evening news. Hey, let me tell you all what I did. Because you getting popped. That man got $20 million. He wants to take it all. Just turn it. Oh, it's okay. We turn some men. We can get, hey, we're going to be good some, we can be, hey, get a picture, we caught for a year. Look, they probably give us a little piece of that. Yeah. Even if they don't, we don't want no piece of.

Like, nah, donate, I donate my to charity. Already got, I got some, but don't worry about that. Nah, hell, no. Hey, but it's a hell of a movie, though, man. It is. It is. Hey, you're not going to see, you're not going to see the ending. You don't see that coming.

Oh, Jew water, best pod ever. Rogan, the side piece now. Iso Ocho and Unc got me hooked. Dallas to Pine Bluff, BJ, Virginia, Jizitsu, and football life. Woo, P. Appreciate that, man. Thanks for the support. Thank you, man.

We pride ourselves in being able to talk a lot of different sports. We know the big, the major sports is football, basketball, baseball, but we can talk anything. We talk baseball, football, track and field, golf. tour de France y'all want to talk about the tour we talk about the tour yeah the winter Olympics

yeah hey I used to watch the winter Olympics the Dutch the Dutch used to be they call them holster balls Johann Olaf Olaf cloths yeah I think it's from the Dutch

yeah he's Dutch I just like hey I just like when they took that hand and then when they come out of that turn shit Hey, you have a ski to snowboard any of that? Hell no. Hold on, you know, I lived in Utah for two years.

Me and my son, me and my kids, we used to go snowboarding. Oh, did you? Man, come on now. Man, I tried to roll to skate, Joe. You, what? You can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, I wasn't able to go enough that one to two times a year. Well, I'm going to cut it.

Man, I hit, man, I hit my ass and my elbow so hard. Oh, no. No, I don't got you old to fall now. You should have caught me when I was 20. Hey, hey, because out here in Atlanta, you're going to be... Falling now with these hips, I am not going back under surgery to predile no hips. I'm telling you. Mike, Mike, what's up, Ug and I, so since we keep calling you Ocho,

is Rich trying to take over the Lakers? Man, that ain't going to happen. It's there. No, sir. No. They ain't going to let that. That ain't going to happen. That concludes this episode of,

nightcap, we want to thank our very special guest Woody Marks, who put on an outstanding performance in the wild card round with 19 carries, 112 yards on the touchdown. We want to thank him from joining us to running back for the Houston Texans. Thank you guys. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle.

And filling in for my partner Ocho Cinco is the University of Arkansas alum, Luter Rock Native. Yes, sir. Awek, great, seven-time NBA All-Star. That's ISO, Joe Johnson. Joe, thanks for filling up on such short notice. I appreciate that. No problem, no problem.

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