Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Tim Duncan AND Wemby on SAME PATH + Mike Brown on FACING D Fox in NBA FINALS + Sacramento Kings INFRASTRUCTURE is BAD

Episode Date: June 1, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the similar path Tim Duncan and Wemby are on to start their career, Mike Brown on facing De’Aaron Fox in the NBA Finals and the Sacramento Kings are a lost cause Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - The parallels between Tim Duncan and Wemby’s first playoff runs are insane10:25 - Mike Brown on D Fox and the Spurs in the Finals (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What? Parallels between Tim Duncan and Victor Wimmyiama first playoff run are insane. 22-year-old Tim Duncan first playoff run. Beat the Blazers. Beat the Wolves. Defeated the Lakers. His rival was shot. Beat the Knicks in five games in the NBA finals.

Wemby. Beat the Blazers. Beat the wolves. Defeated his rival. Check. Facing the Knicks in the NBA finals. That's scary. Nah, it is for real.

It is for real. Like, I think, you know, seeing San Antonio, because I don't think we thought San Antonio would be here this fast. No, no, we thought they're gonna probably be another year, near year away. Because we talked about, yeah, we, we talked about it. I said, Joe, you remember, say, okay, C, they had, they got upset by the Mavericks, came back to the next year. Yeah, yeah. So I was thinking, Thunder do it, and then they come. back next year.

Absolutely. And for them to be on the biggest stage right now, man, this young team is so scary, bro, that, like, potentially, seriously, fellas, I don't know if they can keep all those guys together because, you know, everybody going to want to get paid. But it's hard to construct a team like this to have all this talent on one team. So I figure in about two or three years, yeah, you're going to have a lot of these key pieces gone. But the core, obviously, Wimbayama, Castle, Harper, I guess,

for sale and Champany, like, they in tact for the next at least decade. I'm just being realistic. You know, they're going to get people held for the next decade for sure. I think their core three, I think their core three is Harper, Castle. Castle. Yeah. Yeah. And I know they would like to keep

for sale. I know they'd like to keep Champany. I just don't think it's going to be possible. And I think they're going to probably end up moving off of Fox. Because Harper's too good to keep on the bench, Joe. You can't keep him on the bed, Joe? No, he is. You remember that overtime game, game one? Yeah.

And I love Fox. Fox has been amazing. This last game, it showed you why they got it. Yeah. You just can't keep all those guys. You can't. It's hard to have all that. talent on one team is just too much.

And are you right, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, hey, if I'm, if I'm the Spurs at some point, Dylan Harper is going to be my star. He's got to. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, when would that be, Joe? It probably going to be next year, Ocho. Yeah.

It's going to be, yeah. It's going to be the next year or the year after. He ain't got more than two years there. I can see a scenario on the other than now because he, you got a great situation. Fox, you can learn from a veteran player. Fox is still unbelievable. But this kid is, I can't, Joe, I can't keep him on the bench.

I can't. I think you can play both for them if you just want me to be honest, which. It's hard to play three guards, Joe, even though you got Wimby, and that kind of hurt them a little bit. I mean, because you got to, when you play three guards, you've got to have a conscience like, hey, we got to hit the glass. We got to. We talked about this with the Dallas wings.

when they play a reek and they play backers and they play a fud. Yeah. It's tough. It is. It is. And I think the thing, you can keep teams that come up together as long as they understand the pecking order. I don't think there'll ever be a situation. I could be wrong.

You don't know what the mindset is. Is that. Right. Harper. Castle think there are better than Wemby. That's when you run into problems. I don't think they're going to run in that. I think they understand the picking order,

and they know by having him, he makes the game so much easier for those guys. How was that picking order in L.A? Hey. How was that picking order in Cleveland? Hey, Joe? I'll be using them to them when it happened. I'm listening.

Go ahead. Philistine. Tell him what you're not about it. this because you were the rioted at the time. What? What you're talking about? With the Lakers, when they won three championships in the row, how did that peck it on it? Oh, that's because you got you,

but that's because you got two damn alphas. You got two damn alpha dollars. How you think Castle? Do you not make Castle think he's an alpha? Did you see this man? Dylan Harper said, yeah, yeah. Come on, come on, bro. Come on, bro. Come on, bro.

Come on, bro. And you need that. And you need that, bro. You need that from him, unc. But what I'm saying is, is I think they understand how unique Wimby is. Man, they ain't, you, you ain't going to, if he on your damn team, he's going to be option one. And you're going to be two, period point blank.

Kobe said, no, I don't want to be two no more. Well, we know Cole was a little different. Yeah, man, Bill looked at. Guess what? Hold on. Hold on these kids. What are he ever a two? Was Kobe ever a two?

Yes. Not in his eyes. Not in his mind. Okay. Bro, when Kobe got there in 96, who thought Kobe, who thought Kobe was better than Shaq? Nobody.

Nobody. When he first got there, nobody. Jack, he been to the league four years, and he was the top 50 player all time. In his fourth year. But come on. What Kobe turned himself into with that relentless,

driving work ethic. Yes, he became that. But bro, let's not fool ourselves. When they arrived at the same time, it wasn't close. No, no. It wasn't close. But what Kobe worked and turned itself into? Yes, yes, yes. It's mine. I'm not no two. I'm the one. Every year you saw Cody get better. It was like, like, oh, man, every year, same thing when you watched AR. You watched AR or the undrafted free agent and every year you see his points increase. You see him getting better. You see him getting better. You see him getting better. You

watch Kobe and every damn year he got better. The guy that was laughing at that when he airballed that shot. Yeah. Hey, hey, it could be the same turning point for check now. You know, everybody been talking. Oh, no, no.

He ain't got that. We always had that in him. We don't, we We don't, we, it just take a moment, it take a moment for them, for that dog. I saw it. I've never going to let a Chihuahua, Pomeranian guard the flock. That's, he going to sit on my lap and he's going to bark at the doorbell. And when the mailman stick the bell in the slot, he's going to go tear it up. Yeah.

That's what I got him for. I'm going to get an alibi. I'm going to get a kangall. I'm going to get a barbo. I'm going to get me one of big ass Caucasian mastiff. I will let them guard the clock. that ain't chat makeup though Joe that's in you Joe ain't nobody gave you that it wasn't a situation that it was it was your upbringing that caused you to be Joe Johnson it was Ocho's upbringing

that caused Ocho to be Chad Johnson it was my upbringing that was in me that ain't on me yeah yeah there's certain things you can't you can't coach Joe certain things you can't coach you have an it factor everybody has that it's factor some people got it some people don't you can't coach it it just you you born with yes you born with it yes i look he's but here's the thing no joe that's his demons ched is chedded if you're an alcoholic ched is the drink if you got a gambling problem chedd's the casino uh wimby of the casino If you got a girl addiction, Wimby is the model. So whatever your weakness is, he's it?

Yeah. How do you face it? How do you stare it down? Gotta go through his hand. Because guess what, Joe? If you have an addiction to alcohol, guess what you got to do, Joe? I got to go by every liquor store every day for the rest of my life and not go in there. I got to be able to go to a restaurant and order water.

or a soda and not a drink. I go out with the boys to watch a game. I got to walk by the bar and go sit in the back and have a good time while everybody else is drinking. I got to be able to go, hey, man, we go into Vegas. I don't know if I can go to Vegas. It's like me and Houston.

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I meant that. Oh, Lord. Yeah. That's up. I'm with you when you're right. I ain't bothered nobody. Pride is like love. You feel it in your heart.

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So how was it... When you played, when you played... When you were Atlanta and you played Phoenix or you went to the Brooklyn and you played Atlanta and you played Phoenix. How was that? I tried to try to get at third of every game. I try and I try and

I damn that succeeded a lot of times. I ain't saying I did it every time, but a lot of the times I would try to get a ass hell, especially Phoenix. When I left Phoenix and came here, I tried to get them boys hell every time they see me. They know it. They knew it.

Hey, hey, what we talk about, I ain't got to say a damn thing, but my energy alone lets you know. He ain't messing around today. Hey, hey, we're going to have to send that double on his ad because he thinks he's going to come in here and give us 35, 40 points. Hell, no.

Yeah, that, that's, That's how my energy was. Ocho, did you play the Bengals when you went to New England? No, no, sir. Remember, I was only that one season. And when they ran that gauntlet that year, I didn't shoot.

I think they might be, boys might have lost but two, three, maybe three games that season. We are. No, we didn't play. I played the, man. Man, how funny is this, man? I leave the Broncos. I go to the Ravens.

Our first playoff game, guess who it's against, Joe? Who? Ravens? Oh, the Broncos. Oh, man. The Broncos. You try and get it,

you're trying to get ass hell when you're on. Tell you. My first catch, Joe, my first catch. They call the pass. It's kind of windy day. I know tomorrow. I just called him the Big M.

It's a derogatory term. It was, it wasn't derogatory at the time, but since, you know, I've been known, little people say it's derogatory, but let's just call it, I call him a way old person. Right, right, right.

He had every size body, but he had a little, little short arms. We call the pass. He goes into the flat. I see Trent rare back to throw it. I say, ain't no way in hell. Big Marr going to catch this. Yeah. I said, let me go ahead that way.

So I start getting me a little light jog. I head that way, just in case it bibles up in the air. I'm going to have to chase somebody down. Right. What happened? Sure enough, he bobbling up in the air. A defender tip it. I catch it.

Go down the sideline, 58 yard for a touchdown, Joe, in front of the Broncos bench. Hey, you know what it is? It's because when you're playing your former team, bro, you be so in tune. You know what I mean? And it's like the littlest things that can happen for you, it's like, because I had games

where I played against former teams and it didn't go so well. But for the most part, you'd be so locked in because you want your damn get back. You know, you just feel away. You know what I mean? And you want to come out

and put on a hell of a performance. I know exactly what you're talking about. And my thing was, it was, because I still had a lot of friends over there. It was the fact. And I told, and I heard of having a conversation with Mike, and I said, Mike,

I'm not upset that you tried to trade me and you end up not even offering me a contract. It was the fact that you thought you'd be better without me. Yeah. I said there are so many things that I do outside of the football. You just look at what I do on the football field. Right. When all that's, when I left and the locker room went to chaos

and all that other stuff was going on, had a conversation like 84. You're right. But I got, I came with three passes. They had like 70 yards, but it was that one play. And then every big play that we needed to get to the Super Bowl, I made it. Yeah. That made me feel good because they didn't think I could play at that level.

And even though I didn't get the opportunities that I got younger in my career in Denver, give me an opportunity. I'll make a play. Yeah. Knowing that defense, was Marvin Lewis and, hey, Shay. because it was a running joke. We started to join like, Marvin, how many points you need to date?

Marvin said we give us this. So we play in Tennessee. So we beat the Broncos. He's like, we say Broncos not going to score anything on us. I said, what you need in Tennessee? He said, he said, Shea give us 10. I said, Marvin, they got the best record in the NFL. They got statistically their defense was better than ours.

He said 10. Yeah. He's like, Shay, give us 10. give it to us early. They scored, place going crazy. They bust the coverage. I go down, I catch a 58-yard pass, go down to the one,

Jamal score. They kick a field goal, we kick a field goal. Then they try to pick another field goal, we block it, running back for a touchdown. They throw a swing pass to Ed in the flat, Ray Pickett, go back for a touchdown. So we beat them. Yeah.

So we're feeling good. So we're going out early. We're going out early. to the Raiders because we're playing in Oakland. My best friend Sharon, she passes. She was supposed to meet me in Tennessee, but she ends up passing. So I end up having to go out there.

I have to go out there to Denver, to obviously to her homegoing service. So I don't ride on the plane out there because normally I'm up the front. So the veteran players, if you got 10 years or more, you sit up front with the coaches, everybody else in the back. So I didn't.

I can get a chance. So when I get to the hotel that Saturday, I say, Mar, what we're looking like? He says, he says, Shee, give a seven.

I say Marvin. I say Marvin, they got the number one offense in football. What you mean? He said, Shea, give a seven, give it to us early. So I say, sure,

be honest now. Because we always sit at the table. always said, me, Shul, Woody, Ron Wilson, Corey Harris. We always set together. I said, sure. I say, sure, what we're looking like, what we look at me tomorrow. He looked at me dead in my eyes. He said, Shay, give us seven the first quarter.

It's over. I say, what? I ain't telling what Marvin had told me. I said, come. I said, you know a big place, Shay good for seven. I say, I say, Stover got a, got a kick in it. So that's 10. So you said if we get the 10 points, he says,

if we get the 7 points and y'all don't turn it over, they do. We good. Hmm. Hey, uh, hey, um, hey, Joe, I don't think people understand how good that 2000 Ravens defense was. They would like that, Ocho. Joe, I don't even think, I think if the 2000 Ravens defense was playing today, everybody on that team would be suspended.

Oh, yeah. You can't play like that now. They are now. Joe, the way they play? Oh, we're knocking your quarterback out of the game. Yo's backup. Get your cool backup ready to play because they're going to knock your starter out.

There was no weakness, Joe. You know, every time you play a team, there's always the fish. We call them the fish, Joe. Yeah. You know, when we go through our game plan, when we go through our scout report, you find who the fish is,

you find who the weak league is, and that's what you pick on. You pick on the fish. fish. Joe ain't no fish out there. With them back then? Yeah. And stop playing. Joe, you got to realize they gave up 3.10.

3.0. Damn. Stangy. Every offensive play other than the last player of the game that was a kneel down ended in a punt or a turnover for them. They had 16 possessions.

It ended in a punt or a turnover. Hold on. But What made that defense so great? Obviously, we know Ray, but what really made it great? You couldn't run the football. They made you one-dimensional. At all. In 16 games, they didn't give up a thousand total yards rushing.

You couldn't run him. So now they know you got to throw it. All they played was covered, too. But your third foot, that ball better be out your hands. Oh, they're going to knock your quarterback out. Go back and look at the hit that Rob Burnett put on Achilles Smith. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Black-liners?

Did he? Hey, that was, if you were, if you were going to hit a quarterback like that today, you are getting suspended. Chat, go look at that shot that Rob Burnett put on Achilles Smith. If you hit a quarter, I mean, he took two steps and got ready to throw, and Rob Burnett put his helmet right up under his chin. I remember that. Boy, look here. You got a real, Joe, in 20 games, they didn't give up 200 points in 20 games. As a matter of fact, they didn't give up.

up 190 points in 20 games. But the boy were good, boy. Putting it down. But you know who ain't seen them boy, Joe? Who? Me? Huh? I ain't seen him boy, Joe.

You good, Ocho. Ocho, how many yards you had to get some boy? He wasn't in the lead, did it? Nah, I came in the next year. Oh, okay. Okay. Joe, I still ain't seen them boy, Joe. Yeah.

We had a little, you know, we had a little, you know, we had a wild wild west or Ocho. What y'all had done. You know, little, look, we can't say, you know, I'm supposed to start with a B, it ends with a Y. We put a little money on the head. Hey, Joe ain't have a problem with that.

Hey, they already had money on my head anyway, Joe. And I didn't see that. Look. Mike Brown wants to win a championship. There ain't very many of us of color that have won an NBA title. Yeah. Joe Missoula, Lenny Wilkins,

Bill Russell as a player coach, Al Addles, Doc Rivers. Yes, sir. I mean, the NBA had been going on for 80 years. I think that's it. What is Mitch Johnson? He's blanking it? But I'm saying, yes, they want to win.

And it's a rarity, guess what? That they go against each other. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, y'all looked at that hit. Oh, there it is. Y'all looked at that hit that Robberd that put on the Keely Smith. You put it up.

Pull it up. We can't show it. Hey, we're allowed to play it. You're not allowed to play it, huh? But you can pull it up, take a look at it. I mean, bro, he didn't even get fully in his drop. Ball was gone. Yes, K.C.

Jones. So Bill Russell, Russell did it. Al Addles, Casey Jones, Joe Missoula, Doc Rivers, Ty Lou. Did we leave out anybody? And now we're about to get another one. Yeah. It's going to be

interesting, though. So what is it, six? Because Al Adel won with the Warriors. Obviously, we know Russell and Casey Jones won with the Celtics, Doc run with the Celtics, Joe Missoula won with the Celtics. Ty Lou one with the calves.

Hey, hunger's Rod. Is Rod Barnett? Rob. Rob. He and I came out together. He's from Syracuse. We came out 90 together. Goose came out.

I think Goose might have been a seventh round pick. Goose might have been the 12th round. A goose might have been a free agent. We checked. We are asked by to check the text the link to you. Yeah, I got it, 1999. Week 5. 2000.

Man, we put a hurdle, y'all. Yeah. Hey, Joe, I couldn't, you know, hit a, uh-uh. You know, I got a little touchdown. You all, hey, see that touchdown I put on your boy, uh, Daryl Williams. Joe shook, oh, oh, Joe, I shook him. Ooh, did I? Hey, hey, DeWil can hit, boy.

I, you know, then I come back, then I went back down in Cincinnati and put two on his head. Bill Russell. Yeah, that's right. Casey Jones, Lenny Wilkins, Doc Rivers, Joe Missoula, Tailoo. seven you miss anybody yes

so we said Russell Al Addles Casey Jones Lenny Wilkins Doc Rivers Joe Missoula Ty Lou

did we miss anybody chat Hey that was a nice little stunt man that was a nice stunt that was a big night of time made I bet I would two hook, Ocho, you know if you hit a quarterback like that

now you get suspended, right? Oh, yeah. Hey, put all your weight on him like that, you're out the game. That was a nice stunt. That was a nice little stunt. I'm not even going to lie. We have a brother.

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His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall.

And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stopped by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah. You figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball.

So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is. getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is, getting a new one put up in its place. As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War. To get to school, I had to go down Robert Lee Boulevard.

Get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway. If you're an historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job. I'm Akila Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space. We are more than our bodies.

We contain essence. We contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching. You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Mike Brown all reached the NBA final within the last two years. They passed on Luca, traded Halley, fired Mike Brown, and moved on from Fox.

And all they got in return was the first round exit in 2023. Joe, what's going on with the Kings? Their infrastructure bad, fella. There ain't no way around it. I don't even know how you cut it or slice it. Hallie played in the finals last year. Mike Brown in the finals, Fox in the final. Look who went to the finals.

Come on, bro. Yeah, I'm, yeah, it ain't the damn coaches in the players. we see that now. It's the organization. It's the infrastructure, bro. It's obviously, it's bad. It started at the top, huh? I say it started the top, huh?

Yeah, it got to, bro. Like, when you look at all these situations, these guys going to different teams, coaches coaching different teams, and they are having success. And you look at the Kings, bro, they've been in dumps, Uncle Ocho Hill. For a good minute.

Man, they've been in a C-Webnam there. And bibbing them left on. They've been bad ever since C-Wale them left. And so I don't know, man. I don't know how you get, what pick they got this year. I think they got like, they need a bunch of picks.

I think they got like. It's been reported, Joe, that they're thinking about moving on from, what's the big tall guy? The Chrissy. No, no, no, no, the player, the Lithuanian. His dad played The Lanky

Sabonis, yes The bonus. I told Ocho they believed that he was 7-1 Hold on, I thought I thought Sabonis was already gone. He ain't already No, he's still there. Yeah, they probably, he's gonna help something there by it. He ain't, he ain't, look,

Sabonis is good, but his dad was a hell of a player. He, I mean, his dad was, by the time he got to the, got to the States and played with Portland, he's old and beat up. But boy, you're talking about pass to basketball? He was, he was Yokish passing before Yokic. He used to get Shaq some, he used to get Shaq some, he used to get Shaq. He was seven three.

Could shoot the three. Hmm. Hey, Joe, the Mark Draft got A-Cuff going to the Kings. Oh, man. I don't want A-cup to go to the King, bro. Hey, but you're right. Sabonis, I think he was shooting threes back then. Seners won't shoot three.

He was one, only center shooting threes back there. Probably like him and Sam Perkins, you know, them big guys. Big guys won't shoot threes like that back there. But you go back and look at him when he played for the unified team. Well, I don't know. I think they were called the Russian team. They later became the unified. I hear he was he was serious they used to get a man high high IQ the past the crap out of that ball I know exactly what you're talking about but it was what you call it it was the Brazilians and I think they beat them in the uh they ended up beating um David Robinson them when they had the legendary Oshkart Schmidt the Brazilian yeah Joe now you're talking about a bucket getter and I think he dropped like 48 on the Americas and that was when they said you know what

enough of this. We bring in pros. Y'all got pros, we bring in pros. Ain't no more college, it's going on. Right. The Acese got back to their winning ways.

They beat the Valkyries. 91, 81. Asia Wilson, 28 points, 15 rebounds, four blocks. Jackie Young, got back to looking like Jackie Young, 23 points, nine assists.

She was nine of 17 from the field, five or nine from the three-point line, and she grabbed seven rebounds. The victory gave Becky, Hamans 150 of coaching victory and made her the second fastest coach to Reese that milestone. She did it in

205 games. Seven behind Van Chancellor who set the record when he coached the Houston Comments. Gabby Williams led to Valkyrie with 20 points. Man, Asia, look, when they're playing, when

them two guards, when Asia is Asia. And Jackie Young, one of those guards played, they held. They are, bro. They're going to be tough to beat, you know, you're right. When Asians playing like this and she can't beat 15 boys, 28 points, it ain't, it ain't, I don't know if, I don't even know if they got a girl in the NBA who matches up well with her.

No. Because you see how she moved? She's not, she doesn't move like a lady. her she's sudden and she's left. She's added a three. She's got a midi. She can put the ball on the floor. She can get to the rim.

You file her. But as a two-way player, she gives your points, rebounds, and block your shots. You know, with women, though,

especially like in Asia's position because she's a center, they need, she need good guard. Absolutely. And she got two of the men. She's getting, yeah, yeah, yeah. And when they playing well, when they playing well,

that's what makes them virtually impossible to be. And man, what do you call them? Look, this was a very important game to them because they played their start as a page of minutes and Kennedy Carter, who's been unbelievable. Right now she'd be the sixth woman of the year. She's been amazing. She only played nine minutes, but she still gave you six points, Joe.

She gave, she was perfect from the free throw. I mean, she was perfect from the field, one or one or one from the three point line, or three or four from the free throw line. She was, she was amazing. Yeah, hey, Becky, Becky rode them horses today. She did, A. Nah, hey, hey.

Unlike Ron Turcock on secretary, hey, he got to the top. He took the back up on and said, I don't even need it today. That chestnut coat laid it down. Come on home. And you see it turn back on the shoulder. It looked like, God. Are y'all even running?

Hey, damn. Becky had to whip out the day on the, come on. Come on. Come on home. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks.

Hey, some time, hey, boy, sometimes that would it take. Hey, if you're in a little rut or you're trying to bounce back, hey, y'all need to get it to go. Yeah. Gabby Williams, she played for the French team,

isn't she? She played for the French team? because I think she got dual citizenship, so I think she played for the French team. Because remember, Joe, in the Olympic, she had hit that shot, but her foot was on the line. Who is this? Get away with the Valky.

Golden State. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Keel Stokes, she was on, I think, she played with the, she played with the Aces last year, kind of doing what she'd done before. No points, seven rebounds. I think I read somewhere to the Golden State Valkyries, They're like a top franchise already.

Oh, yeah. The most expensive franchise. I think they're worth a billion. A billion. But what makes them, what makes them, how's that? They own the building which they play in. Damn. Like the Liberty?

Oh, yeah. Huh? Yeah, man, we should have got in and got us a percentage on the dream. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we could have got it. We could have got it real cheap. It ain't nothing cheap now. Houston, yeah.

Timmy. Hey, yeah, Tim and Fritin just bought the, well, he bought the sons last year. They're relocating to Houston. The son, Connecticut son. All right. They're going back to the comments.

They're going to be the comments. That'd be the comments. No, I think they're going back to the comments. They've done something to be able to get their comment back. And that's going to be dope. I remember, I remember as a kid, bro, sitting there watching Cynthia Cooper and them play. Hey, man.

They had Tina Thompson, their parole. They had swoops. Yeah. They were loaded. When the WMA first kicked out, them girl was not playing. Well, you ain't going to see what they did. They won four straight.

Because they had two of the top five players on one team. And Tina Thompson wasn't no slout. Oh, no. So they might have had three of the top seven, top eight players on one roster. And the only thing that hurt them is that Coot was getting older. But if it... She was cold. What?

Man, Cuba liked that. Damn, she was cold. She was nice, but I'm talking about putting up numbers. Yes. Damn. But congratulations. I got to check out a comics game. I'm trying to say who they can play, who I want to see them play.

They got to play somebody good. Nah, you know what? When you got stars like Asia and gray and young, you don't care who they play. Because the best talent is on the home court. on court. It ain't like you go, you know, you play you one of teams and you wait for the Lakers or you wait for somebody good to come play.

Hell, we got the best players right here. Because I saw him play, I saw him play a couple of years ago. I saw him play, uh, Caitlin Clark. He's talking about the Aces. Okay, okay, Joe, while there are many moments of frustration and for the Indiana fever and their 184 lost to Portland fire Saturday night, the one that got the most attention involved the sideline exchange between Caitlin Clark and Stephanie White.

At one point in the game, a fan caught a video of White and Caitlin arguing on the bench during the break in the action, presumably over defense. Let's look at this video. I ain't really seen nothing now. I mean, I saw Caitlin Clark be a little dementia of, you know,

outside of that. You can't be demonstrative, Ocho. Hey, guys, it's us and the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

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