Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: TJ Houshmandzadeh joins and CALLS OUT Browns for preventing Shedeur from succeeding

Episode Date: August 24, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Daniel Quinn praising Jayden Daniels for his preparation, TJ Houshmandzadeh joins the show to discuss Shedeur’s latest preseason game, & Kansas State QB Avery Johnson’s father was in a fist fight with his other son and much more! 0:00 - Dan Quinn praises Jayden Daniels10:18 - TJ Houshmandzadeh joins42:27 - Kansas State QB Avery Johnson’s dad and brother throw hands in the parking lot50:59 - Q & Ayyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We don't just love college football, tie. We live it. Dan Quinn praises Jane Daniels for changing the culture of Commander's locker room. I think that smiles at Wolf and Sheep's clothing, Quinn said he's an absolute dog competitor. Quinn described Jane's routine and how his commitment to putting in the work helps set an example for the rest of the team. Very much an early morning morning person would rather grow through everything before everybody even gets here well before the sun comes up. There's been times looking at the weight room who's walking off the field in the dark. It's him. That's a standard that other

players have also appreciated from him. Yeah. Ocho? Jayton Daniels for MVP this season. It's possibly possibly because listen, I don't see a sophomore slum in the in the in the in the in the works for him. Obviously, I would like for them to get his number one target, Terry McLaurin. I would love them to get that situation rectified so we can have all weapons and all hangs on deck coming week one.

But he definitely, definitely can be the MVP. And obviously, what we saw last year, it didn't just start now. It's just something he's always been doing. He was doing it at Arizona State. He did it at LSU. And so it just carried over over into Washington.

And they got their quarterback of the future for the next 10, 15 years. And stuff like that, the little things, the things that Coach Quinn is talking about, the little things is what's going to make a difference, which is why he was able to come into an organization and make a impact and difference right away, right away. Things that don't even have to do with the game of football, the approach, your preparation, your worth ethic. I know a lot of people say you work hard. and you hope everything comes in fruition. It's not just about working hard.

It's about knowing what to work on is what makes the difference. Everybody works hard. But knowing what you as an individual need to work on to make sure you want point at whatever it is that you do is how you see change and difference. You see the difference between him, and the guy in Andy who

that's a good one you see the difference one guy was there early he's there late one guy was there late and he left early you see the difference you see the difference

some it's what you do they watch what you do not what you say I see better than I hear I hear you talking about how much time you put, how much time you put in? But I see you the last one, drag your ass in here. I see you the first one leave.

That's how you become great. That's how you become successful. I don't see how you could have sacrificed in that position anyway to want to be the best of what you do. The quarterback position, with the kind of money they pay as difficult as it is to find QB-1s on certain teams, and I got the opportunity.

to be QB1 and you think I ain't fin to buy in? I mean that's just that's just me. I'm not caring about nothing else, no other hobbies or nothing else I got going on. I'm QB1 and Andy? You mean I got the chance? Year one,

year two, so year three is my making a break of year. If I get all my, if I got all my ducks aligned in the row, if I dot all my eyes and I cross all my teeth, you mean there's an opportunity for me to get a five year $300 million dollar contract? What? And you think I'm not going to be locked in?

First one there. Last one out. Mesh. What? Ocho, they serve your breakfast, lunch, and dinner. You got cold tub, you got steam room, you got sauna, you got red sauna. You got everything you could possibly need. They serve you breakfast.

They cook. You want salmon? Okay, you got that. You want a steak? You got that. You want chicken. Oh, are you pescatarian? So it's only fish for you. What type of fish do you like? Make sure we have that. You like salmon? You like trout? Oh, really? Okay. We'll talk to the, maybe we can get some grouper. Maybe we get sea bag. We get a white fish. You like white fish? Sure. You like cod? You like halibut? Sure. So lamb chops. They prepare. They cooking. Sunnyside up over medium poached you're on french toes you want pancakes oh cho all of that is there at your disposal now oh cho ma'am hey let me get in this cold tub this cold plunge man man i'm gonna get in the sauna man let me get in the steam room let me get in the red saw let me get on the

rest let me get on the laser tape hey there is no reason There's absolutely no reason for a player. They have everything, everything you can possibly want. And this is an opportunity for, I just don't get it. I don't get it. I don't. And it's not always, but you can tell that Jane Daniels, the little bit that I was

Around him, Ocho, remember before the draft, we had him on. He came on the way he carried himself. We had him on last year at the Super Bowl. He had him on. Yeah, he's going to be something. You're going to be something. Because I've been around enough quarterbacks and to see how they handled their business, the ones that really good, I played with one and went to the Hall of Fame.

I got an opportunity to see Peyton. I wasn't there day-to-day, but talk to people around him and how he goes about Peyton ran the practices. You can't run the practice if you don't know what the hell you do it. Brady, I heard Brady talk. He ran the practice. This is where I want you. This is what it needs to look like.

I don't get these guys. But like I said, but sometimes, sometimes, Ocho, the hardest thing for us to see, is our own flaws. I raised my hand. Shoot, I raised mine too. Matter of fact, everybody in the chat,

she'd probably raise theirs as well. Because we all have them. We all have them, um? You're so close to the situation you don't see. See, the, the blindest person isn't a man that can't see

is the one that chooses not to see, is when you, when, someone tells you something or there's a reoccurring pattern of the same thing of the same thing of the same thing he i mean bro as the quarterback oh joe even if you even if you even if you don't even if you're just in this film room by yourself just be the last one to leave fool them you cannot as the quarterback be the first one to leave you can't I remember before they got these iPads and all the stuff you can watch it on.

Man, I used to see seven, watch them tape, and then he would take, he got those, you know, a laundry bag, Coacho, the little best bags. He got 10, 15, 20 tapes in there. He's going home because he got one of those big machines, and he's going to watch film. And a funny thing, too, about it, about it too long. You can't fool yourself, pretending like you're watching. Because what's going to happen based on what you see, You'll get your ass in the game.

You're going to expose yourself. You're going to expose yourself. Because John would come back and say, hey, and he was like, hey, T, did you see such and such? Did you watch this? I was like, yeah. He said, did you see what they had to play?

I said, yeah, they played like a, uh, uh, what we call a bare stretch. They stretched it, which was a bare front, the center guard and both guards are covered, but they had a guy head up and they had a guy outside. He says, okay, I just want to make, I just wanted to make sure. Oh, yeah, because he's going to quiz me.

Because, you know, hey, I think I know, hey, I know what everybody's supposed to do. At least I'm telling everybody I know what everybody's supposed to do. I know what Rod does. I know what Ed does. I know what I got. I know what the back is supposed to do. So he's like, okay, you say you do it. But did you see, hey, did you see what Green may run?

I said, yeah, excuse me, Pittsburgh. I said, yeah, they ran cover six, but they do it differently. They're kicking it. So they're playing quarters on one side, but they're playing cover two on the back side. But the guy in the press. He kick it. So that's what we call six kick. Because you can play cover two.

The guy play off funnel you in, funnel you down inside. But no, he had a press position. And then he dropped it. But they still playing quarters on the backside and half, half on the front. So if things like that, guys, don't miss this opportunity. Man, y'all got so, y'all got, it's so much that you can do. You can be great if you want to. Obviously, you get to this level.

And that's what I tell them. Everybody got talent. you're not unique now bro you're not unique maybe you can do some things but everybody got a certain level of talent you don't get here without no talent now I'm saying everybody is a talent as a Lamar Jackson or has an arm that can throw the ball like Josh Allen those are different things but if you don't think everybody at this level has a certain level of talent you're fooling yourself to get in the door you've got to have a talent now how much work you're willing to put in

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I just, going out to eat with the family, I'm like, oh, my boy want me on. Pull up. Pull up in the park, come up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I told them, I told them, I'm so glad you on because you're much better at, at being a little bit more in depth

in explaining things because I kind of get frustrated because people still, I try to tell them, I talked to you earlier and I knew I wasn't tripper and you saw the same thing I saw, but maybe if they hear from you because they stick it here in my mouth

and give them a better explanation on 12 situations, maybe they'll understand. Man, I, yeah, just give us your thoughts on should do it, should do it the game today. T.J., why, why do you think the Browns played it the way they did and Shadour and Shador's performance today?

From my assessment, y'all, they don't want a controversy. That's how they don't want to come because we know what Flacco can do. Why does Flacco starting a game? We know what he can do. He lads you out to the playoffs the last time y'all let him play. So if you're trying to figure out who you're going to play in case Flacco gets hurt, Dylan Gabriel or Shadour, you let them split the game. Snoop is, Snoop is, Tyler, Helen, he's getting cut tomorrow.

You let them, you let them battle it out. And so to me, it was like, wow, you, you put him in with guys that's going to be on the street tomorrow. They all getting cut, Shannon. Everybody Shadir play with. They getting cut tomorrow on Monday. We know that. And so you didn't get this man a fighting chance to compete. He went into a gunfight with two knives.

He going to lose that every time. I was surprised, T.J., what I was most surprised about is that this is your opportunity to see him in a two-minute situation. Why are you giving a guy a two-minute situation when that guy's going to be on the street in the next couple of days? So what do you get? And people already know what Huntley can do. He's been a starter in this league. He backed up Lamar Jackson for two to three years. He even started a post-season game.

So I don't think anybody's going to look at that two-minute situation and say, you know what? Snoop Hunt is our backup. We saw him last year and he goes down to Miami. We saw him last year and we've seen him in situations. That's what was confusing to me, T.J. You know why they did that, Shannon? If

Shadur take them down there, dry down the length of the field, they win that game. The fans gonna be saying Shadir our quarterback. Shadir should be our starter. Shadir should be the guy that starts game one, week one. Look what he did. They didn't want that to happen. And I don't

know what's going on with Kevin Stafansky, it's almost as if, and I don't even want to say this, but I'm going to say it anyway. It's like he don't want Shreder to do well. Like, when he played well the first game, he was so off-putting, like, oh, yeah, well, you know, we'll see what happens next. Like, he should, oh, he played great, man. He exceeded our expectations. He didn't say none of that. And so to me, it's as if they want him to fail so they can justify doing what they want to do. But, man, listen, the way when Dylan Gabriel, and I know Dylan Gabriel, and I like Dylan Gabriel, I know him personally, very good dude, when he made the entertainers and competitors

comment, man, Shannon, if that was me, I would have walked up on Dylan Gabriel myself and be like, hey, bro, what did you mean? Shardur handled that about as good as anybody can handle it when he was asked at. He didn't handle himself the right way the entire time he'd been there. Ocho said it wasn't nothing. Ocho said we made a big deal about nothing with that, T.J. Nah, nah.

He said he wasn't talking about. Ocho told me he was not talking about Shadur. So when you first hear it, 100% you're talking about me if I'm Shadur. When I first heard it, I'm like, oh, he's talking about Shadur. If you sit back and reflect on it, I believe he's talking about y'all too. And the people on TV, the guys that are entertaining

and everybody else. But initially, when I first heard it, I said, oh, my God, why would he say that? But then when you sit down and think about it, I do believe he wasn't talking about Shudur. But in that initial reaction, oh, I'm going to compress you just to make sure. Let me ask you this, T.J.

Why was he talking about Ocho and I? We're not competing again. He's competing, but the entertainers, the guys with great podcasts, like what you all? doing the guys on TV, they're entertaining y'all. So don't let them have us go against each other. We're going to compete, but the entertainers, that's how I took it once I sat back and reflected and thought about it.

I think you gave him too much credit for that. I don't think he thought that far in depth. And it could be, though, Shannon, that I know Dylan Gabriel. I've been knowing him for a few years now, and I like him, and that could be why. Right. Yeah. It seems to me, you know, sometimes, like when you didn't,

like somebody a hoosh and they somebody mentioned their name and you get quiet and you're like it seems like every time they mention shadur's name like the fans get a part of him inside like damn i got to talk about this dude he's four he four string why are we talking about a dude that's four stream because he played well and let's just be honest man we all know who his pop says and so he came he came into the league like whoa did they really just do shudur the way they did him during the draft. So automatically all Oz was going to, they were going to be on them because of the way he came into the league. He played so well.

He had to be drafted in the fifth round. Everybody was taken aback by that. Then he gets in the game. When he played the way he plays some of them throws, he was making, man, those aren't easy throws. It ain't like it's cover three. It threw guys open. Man, he was throwing BBs. And so, I don't know why.

Ah, they won't get this man a fair shot. At least it just seems that way. Joe Flacco may lead him to the playoffs, but he's not your quarterback of the future. I'm going with one of these young guys so that I can see. Are they the future or I got to drive somebody else? Yes. Yeah, I totally agree with you.

Look, in year 18, based on Joe Flacco's resume and his history, he going to win you four or five games but here's the thing Joe Flacker win you games when there's no expectations you see the number one thing that a killer player is expectations you let when the backup come in

and he gets to play free and loose put expectations on him and see what happens now we expect you to lead us to the division we expect you to win this game for us and see how to play. You got these unkisms, man. You'd be having these Shannonisms, man.

Hey, you're right. Because now we expect you to win this playoff game. You fall flat. We expect you to beat the Ravens or the Steelers or the Bengals. You fall flat. And he's not your future. That, to me, is the biggest thing. The Cleveland Browns are a quarterback away from being competitive with anybody

because of that defense and the skill guys that they have. And so, to me, it's a no-brainer. I don't know why or what Shadur is done. Because prom played a long time. Dionne son. Prom played a long time. They love prom. Just because their daddy was a confident individual.

His kids are going to be the same way. We are a product of who we are always around. And that's just what they are. Man, listen, if you ask my son is the next. boy better than him, and he said, yeah, we got a problem. He'd know better. And so

Shradur is Brad the same way. I just want to see the young man be giving a fair shot and from the outside looking in, it doesn't look like that's the case. Yeah. I remember when Prime said, do not let my confidence offend your insecurities.

Don't let my, either, don't let that go over your head now. Don't let my confidence offend your insecurities. Man, I really, who I am and what I think of myself, that shouldn't have anything to do with you. Because, see, now you're allowing my, my confidence and my ability. Now you don't feel so secure in yourself in your abilities. So now I'm offensive. How dare you talk like that?

So where's the line what I said? And it's the thing, you know, Shannon, you wanted the best to ever do it. And Chad should be right there with you in All of Fame. That's another discussion. every professional athlete man you we all had the utmost confidence like I still feel like

right now I can go play in my head like in my head I feel like I can go get it done like I believe in myself to the fullest as you as you do Chad does as well we all every professional athlete has unwavering belief

in yourself that's how you make it and so to me that's what you want And the way, man, the way this dude has handled himself, man, has been unbelievable, man. He's done an unbelievable, man. Like, you could tell he's been raised, right? Like, so many guys, the questions they're asking him

and the way they treat him, they didn't give him this drive, that drive today. Man, come on, man. That dude could have just soaked that on the bench. He didn't do that. I'm sure he was disappointed. He handled himself the right way on the sideline. Me and Chad would have been throwing our helmets or something.

What? Oh, I got worded it off. Mesh. But the thing is that that he knows who, is that he knows no matter where he is, the cameras are on him. If he's on the sideline

getting Gatorade, the cameras are on him. If he's standing there, listen to the play being called in the headset. The cameras are on him. So whatever emotion he's going through, the cameras are going to be on it, on him. And guess what?

people are going to try to deduce what is he thinking what's going on his head you see his body language that's why he was a fifth round draft pick look at the body language ocho you see what happens blah blah blah bro hey great awareness so i'm supposed he he has great awareness let's go if you look at what jackson dart has done in new york what are they saying now in new york what are they saying man when is jackson dark going to be starting what week is jackson dart going to be to start what week is Jackson Dart going to be the starter? Hey, you think they want that in Cleveland? They should.

They should want it. But they don't because Jackson Dart is played so well. It's like Russell Wilson is about to get Matt Flynn the way he did Matt Flynn. Jackson Dart about to do Russell. Why ain't they giving Shadur the same opportunity?

You heard that, Ocho? Oh, yeah. You told him that already? I did. I'm telling you. But you have to understand. And this is so funny. The people that continue to say we're making excuses for Shador,

and the simple fact that the owner came out and said, this is not the player I wanted. Shadour is not my pick. That alone, that tells you all you need to know. Kevin Stefanski, hands are tied. He asked to someone else. He answers to a high. of power. There's a reason why

when he's asked about Sador, he has a certain look on his face. There's no excitement. He doesn't say the right things that normal coaches say about players when they do well, even though it is just the preseason game. He's the coach. He don't have no sale to the final 53.

He got no. Kevin Stefansky does not have sale to the final 53. That's Barry and that's Jimmy Haslam. He hasn't had enough success. He hasn't had enough success. If he had more success as a coach and with team, he would have more say so. A little input, a little input,

but he does. But see, what happens when you get a job and you haven't had a whole lot of experience, you see, now Ben Johnson, he gets to go to Chicago, he got say over the final 53. Andy Reed has say over the final 53. Sean Payton had say over the

final 53. Mike Tomlin has say, but when you don't, when you don't have the kind of credentials and you get a head coaching job, you're happy to just to be a heck, they're only 32 of things in the world. You're one of 32. And if you happy to get one, you're like, okay, hey, I don't, hey, y'all do whatever y'all want to do. I don't want to do the, I just want to coach the team. And Kevin Stephansky is just coaching the team. Because all things being

equal, I don't, I, if me personally, I don't think he would want to carry four quarterbacks. Because as long as Shedore Sanders is on that team, they're going to be questions. There's going to be questions as soon as they start losing. As soon as they start losing, flacco going to the bench and honestly I believe they really wanted Kenny Pickett to be the starter Kenny Pickett just couldn't stay healthy

Ocho see Ocho they want to listen to me and you know what I ain't going to say I know that for a fact I was told that by somebody that's in that building that it was Kenny Pickett or Dylan Gabriel I was told that by somebody that's in that building

Kenny Pickett or Dylan Gabriel I was going to dust y'all go ahead and talk I'm going to go dust. I didn't even tell you that. Yeah. You're talking about competing in that AFC, Noah?

You got to have a quarterback. Look at the quarterback. Look at the quarterback. You got, okay, you got two games against Joe Burrell. You got two games against Lamar Jackson and you got two games against Aaron Rogers. And now everybody said Aaron and he looked well. We'll see he is 41.

We'll see how his body holds up, especially now in the warm as when we you live in a night you live in California so it's warm pretty much near round as we start to get old there's a reason why people go to Florida there's a reason why old people go to Arizona there's a reason why old people live in Nevada because that warm weather now you go back and look at Aaron Rogers in the beginning of the season played well and then when it got cold he didn't play so well but in the two games that he had in Miami the game that he had in Jacksonville what's the weather like in Jacksonville in Miami in December. Really nice. Go back and look at the games how he played. So we'll see when

the weather turns cold in Pittsburgh and Baltimore and Cincinnati and Cleveland if he can stay. But you know tried and true, Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow is going to be able to be will and deal. So if you end that division, you've got to deal with those guys. And if you can't beat those guys, you can't go one in what, one in six, one in, yeah, one in five. And think about you going to win that division. That ain't happened. No, sir. And it's the last time Cleveland has had a quarterback

that you just spoke of. Like, when is it? Bernie Cozard? Oh, Dave. Is it that far back? Yes. Like, yes. To me, I want a guy like Shadur. I'm giving him an opportunity. If you fall on your face, you fall on

your face. But you getting a chance with me because if I win with Shadur and I'm Kevin Stefanski, I have a lifetime of security. I'm retiring when I want to retire if Shadur turns out to be that guy. That, to me, is why I don't understand, and you made a point, he must have his hands tied because why wouldn't you want to go with a young guy?

Because if he succeeds, I'm set for life. I'm a $100 million coach now. Easily. Look, I would rather win my way. I would rather lose my way than win someone else's way. That's another onkism. That's another uncism. right there.

T.J., how many times have you seen coaches? Let me, if I'm going to win or lose, I'm going to do it my way. There's a lot of times, especially in NBA, when they want to play the young guys. And the coaches like, hell, no, I'm trying to win. And they get him up out of there because somebody going to come in and play and going to do because we try to get a draft pick. We try to get Zion Williams or we try to get Cooper Flag or whomever. So coaches are saying, you know what, if I'm a lose,

I'm going to lose my way. I ain't winning somebody else's weight. You do that in the NFL. They're going to be working on somebody network television. They're going to get them up out of there. Hey, everybody got all these, got these great answers. Well, they should do this. Man, look here, I'm sitting up here on TV because I retired.

Now, why are you here? But you got all these great ideas. I'm sitting up here on TV. because I retired. Now, explain to me, did you retire? Because if it was as easy as what you're making it out to be, you should still be somewhere. And that's why everybody hopes to get to be in Mike Tomlin position,

Andy Reed position, Sean Payton position, Sean McVeigh, that's every coach's dream. And the way football is now, you better have a guy under center that can fulfill that dream to make it come true. it's not the way it used to be. A, bring your defense in a running game. I don't care how good your defense is. You could have the 2,000 Ravens.

If your quarterback suck, you're not winning no championship. Because I can guess what? Because, you know why? Because he's the only guy that you cannot hide. Because guess what? If I got a guy that struggles to get on press coverage, I can stack the formation. I can put his ass in motion.

and I can make it difficult for you to press him so I can get a free release if I got a weak corner I can give him help over the top I'll put him in cover too I'll roll protecting I'll buzz the linebacker I can do things to protect him

I can slide my offensive line one way or another or I can tell the back to chip his way out now you tell me how the hell do you hide your quarterback because I'm gonna force his ass to make throws

we're gonna play pop Warner football we're gonna press them we're gonna put They're in the box, safe in the middle of the field. So beat us. That's what they're going to do. I'm going to make you throw it.

Absolutely. And that's how you get found out. To me, the way the game is evolved, you've got to have a really good quarterback or a great one, and you've got to have some guys on the outside that can get open. Straight up. That's what football is today. That's what it is.

It ain't that hard. We make it harder than what it is, but it ain't that hard. It's still play. It still played the same way. My 11 against your level. But I tell you what, your weakest 11, better not be the quarterback. I don't care about that all that other stuff.

Your weakest of your 11, better not be here. When you start saying the weaklings on offense, if your quarterback is within the first five or six you say, you got a problem. A real one. He don't have to be the best, but he better be one of the top three on that offense. It's top four and worse.

And if he's not one of those, you're not going where you want to go. You can't hide him. You used to could hide it because, look, we run the, you run, hey, we run the ball. And guess what? We run the ball 35, 40 times. We throw it on our terms.

It's second and one. It's third and one. We catch you off. Nah, they won't let you do that now. Because they've made it so conducive for you to three. throw it the way they protect the quarterback. And if you think if I'm going to pay a guy $60 million, TJ, so he can turn around

and hand this ball off 45 times a game, you better kiss my butt. You won't throw it. I pay you $60 million, you better have $35,000, $4,000, $5,000. I am not turning, paying you that kind of money to hand the ball off. Now, you're going to throw that thing, you're going to run it.

You might have to catch it sometimes, too. Because the weight in about five years, Jay Daniels is going to get. He's getting $80 million a year. Jay Daniel's getting $80. Oh. He's getting $80. C.J. Stroud's going to probably get about $77.

Yep. And that's where the game is going. Daggett. Because you see Josh Allen. You see what Josh Allen got. And because the quarterback, they're just going up. And that's where, that's what Richardson, Richardson was supposed to be, and he was supposed to be right there.

He was supposed to be getting up. But see, what I told him, and people are, man, you be hating on the I say guys he's been labeled a project his entire career so what a project you don't move in

if I buy a building I say this is a project I think if I fix this thing up I think it can be I think it can be really good TJ you don't move into a project right away you build it up

yeah they brought they got the guy they say this guy's a project and you throw him out their week one what project They didn't even, what project have they ever done that with? Shannon, they drafted Anthony Richardson fourth overall. Correct.

And what did they say when he came out? He didn't start enough games in college. He ain't started enough games in the league. They're not giving him a fair chance. When we in school, the days that I did go, and you had a project. They didn't give us a project today and say the project was due tomorrow. we had about a week or two to complete the project it takes time you got to do your research you got to study they didn't give anthony richerson that time but but but he's not absolved of any blame because you can never never check yourself out of game and say you tired ever you can't do that and when he did that he lost some guys in the locker room and he lost some guys upstairs you're You can't do that.

But with that being said, you can't come into the league, need an experience. And then when you get to the league, they give up on you before you even get any type of experience. Yeah. Housie. It was him that said the NFL is easier than college. Do everybody remember him saying that? He said that, oh, Joe. He said that out of loud.

He'll get him on the show tomorrow. He'll take that comment back. Yeah, I don't think. I think he answered too fast. He answered too fast based on what he had seen to date before he did that interview. And he might have felt that way. But it's a whole different ball game. It's a whole different.

As you can see now. You guys, I played with, I played in an era with great quarterbacks played with a great one. You tell me, have you ever heard Brady, Manning, Elway, Marrard. Rino. Name a great quarterback that says NFL football is easier than college football. Just tell me one. Ain't nothing about NFL easy at any position. Ain't especially quarterback. You got to know what the entire offensive line is doing.

The runnerbacks doing the receivers, tight ends. And then you need to know what the defense is doing. You worry about the defense. Yeah. Ain't nothing about that easy. Like being a quarterback, you basically going to mad school. You studying to be an attorney. You're starting to be a neuro-science.

Like you, being a quarterback takes so much time, so much commitment that nothing about it is easy. But guess what? He know now. He know now. That's why I don't feel bad when they want to have, hey, man, hey, they want to drink. Hell, I'd be drinking too. Because you mentally exhausted because you're literally thinking. Me, when we're going on, hey, I'm trying to beat the guy in front of me.

That's what I'm worried about. Ocho, you tried to beat the guy in front of you. He got to worry about, man, I shall hope this left tackle did his job. Man, I wonder if Ocho running the right right. Damn, but who's, I wonder if who's got our press in the slot? Damn, man, did the back chip his way out? Did we slide the protection the right way? Oh, damn, I got to throw the guy open.

That's every single play for 65 plays. You know, people look at it as they just drop back, hike the ball, and just that's it. Okay, okay. That's why they talk so much trash from the outside looking in, thinking that the job is easy at that level. And then this is what people don't understand. Ain't no job in the field.

When the quarterback calls the play out of the huddle, have y'all notice? Every, every, just watch the games. They walk up to the line of scrimmage. They look around. They take in their time. They're processing information. They don't get into that cadence right away. They look around, they think, okay, this will, okay, what are they in?

where we had their profits and that's every single place. They're thinking without thinking because you want it to be second nature now. I got to just react and that's where all the study during the week comes from. But they get fooled. You live to play another down. That quarterback position

man is no joke. Nope. And the thing is that because he has to remember down in distance, he got to remember area on the field. He's got to remember, okay, time on the clock. I mean, most quarterbacks, they study coordinators

because coordinators become head coaches and they bounce around the league. So Peyton Manning probably had a book of all the Rex Ryan was a decorinate in Baltimore. But he's the head coach in Buffalo head to Jets. Tom Brady, same thing. Drew Breed, same thing. So all these coordinators, guess what they turn into be?

Head coaches. And when they're head coaches, guess what they're going to run? The defense that they ran with the de-coordinator at another stop. So it gives me a head start. or what I need to prepare for. Quarterback is not an easy position. I understand why they make the big bucks. And I ain't envious of it because I don't know about y'all,

but I've taken some shots with that I didn't see, and they hurt. So imagine just standing there you're about to throw the ball and the dude put his helmet right in your back. It's a thankless position. And that's why I believe they get too much credit when things go well and they take way too much of the blame. Way too much of the blame. They take way.

So, ultimate, football is the ultimate team game. 11 on 11. Ultimate team game. Because, hey, you can play great and somebody drop a pass and then, oh, somebody missed a block. It comes, and it really, sometimes it comes down and you're like, one play don't win the game. Okay, when did that play happen? Yeah, they're quick to say that. That in the turn of a- If I drop a ball and this at the end of the game, oh, I,

I cost you all the game. And we all know that. All the leaders on the team going to say, oh, that played didn't cost us. Like, boy, yeah, it did. Yeah, it did. Yeah, it did. I'm mad enough to say, yeah, it did.

It costs us. I mean, that happened to me in the playoffs. I dropped the ball. You couldn't Ray Lewis come up to me? Man, they ain't cost us a game. I said, Ray, yeah, it did. That costs us the game. And that's just a reality of it.

One play can cost you a game, but a leader going to say it can't. Right. because all plays aren't created equal. All turnovers. A turnover in the first quarter is not the same as a turnover with three minutes left in the ball game. A big play in the first quarter

and doesn't have the same impact as a big play late in the ball game. Plays vary. They have different weight. And we understand that. Look, we all go say all the right thing, but under my brother, like, yeah, it did. It costs a lot.

100%. But that's a good thing about football because, We always hope I'll be better next week. I'll be better next week. And then when next week don't come, it's like, oh. When am I going to get my opportunity to redeem myself? Because that's the thing.

That's the thing about sports is that you always get an opportunity to update your resume. And some sports is sooner than other. Baseball, basketball, they play every day, every other night. You know, they play three games a week. In football, you get once a week. to update that resume. And you don't get to keep it because a lot of times

what people try to do who, and you know this, Ocho, is that a guy, man, you, bro, I know what he did. And when he did that, I ain't taking nothing

what he's already accomplished away. Those three MVPs, those Super Bowl MVP's, those all pros, he still got those on his mantle. But I'm talking about yesterday, he was some slow.

It's really that simple. I ain't one of those guys that, you know, you get to, It's a legacy, and you get to keep, you can play bad. And even though you got all these accolades, it, no, hell no. That ain't how it works in sports. They don't carry over like that.

Hell not. Not with Shannon. They don't. It's about right now. It ain't about yesterday. It's right now. What are you doing right now? And that's the world of sports.

That is. Well, TJ, man, we look, we'll let you get with your family. We're going to let you go and get some dinner, get out to eat. Hey, Brad, thanks for stopping by. Come back and join us again soon, man. Hey, Shannon, how often you're in the weight room, bro? You're looking kind of swall or your shirt's small? Oh, you're talking about, I'm about me.

Hey, Chad, what you're wearing right now, bro? About like 187? I'm 205, look. That ain't no 205, boy. 205, right? TJ, that ain't no 205, though. 205, boy. It's a five on there.

It's an 85 or 95, but the damn sure ain't no two in front of it. I'm 205 right now for real because DJ, I'm preparing to fight Devo in February. I wish you the best, man. Come on. No, you bet. Hey, hey, don't wish me the best. You better wish him the best because I'm going to beat him the fuck up. All right.

Hey. No wrestling. Make sure you do. No wrestling. No wrestling. Now, MMA, everything goes. Everything goes, T.J. My, hey, did you just, did you just see what happened to Driggis Duplessis

when he fought Shamaath last week? I ain't got nothing to do with that. I ain't got to do with that. I'm training with Khabi. All right. I'm training, but I'm talking about. Well, you did to go to that. You didn't go to Daggis.

All right. No, Kabe down here in Miami, me and him been training. All right. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. Yeah, see, no, now y'all want to be with me. I got to make sure you're preparing.

I'm with you, doll. Yeah, me and compete, we've been trained in the past month. All right. All right. Hey, TJ, man, thank us. I appreciate that, man. I appreciate that, man. I'll take care, fellas.

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Who's fighting? The quarterback's dad and his brother. So the quarterback for Kate State, that's his dad and his brother. So that's his son that's fighting the dad. What in the world going on? What they? Like alcohol in the system?

him? Hey, I would love the backstory on this, too. I would love them. Ain't no backstory. Who won the game? K-State loss. Okay. Look, to be in a situation that you fight your dad,

you got no respect for your dad. I can see if I can see if it's a family situation, where the mom is involved and he shoved i get all that old joe but in a situation like this at a ball game and it's out in public and you know you got to think about other dynamics too and other elements that that that can call stuff like this drinking alcohol being in the game having fun again emotions are high you lose the game some things might be said in exchange and and in stuff like that happen now when we talk about family incidents and we talk about fights or stuff like this you know stuff like this happens especially

especially in our culture in general you know and that's what's so sad to see it happen and be in displayed in public like that it's very it's very unfortunate very very very very

oh let me let me tell you some let me tell you how alcohol work you won't do anything intoxicated you hadn't at least thought about sober because your mind won't allow you to go there you see people people hey they stole a bull they stole an 18 wheeler or they stole a bulldo

adult or they did something reckless. But you thought about that while you were sober. Alcohol broke down the inhibitions and gave you the, gave you the courage. That's what they call it liquid courage to go do what you did. I don't care how drug I got. I ain't fin to fight my brother. I ain't fin to fight my parents. And it's so funny. You see videos like this all the time, monk. And it's embarrassing. Fathers fight each other, whether it be sisters, whether it be, here, And I don't mean to bring up stories out. I don't mean to bring up stories. But I obviously know the story of my mom, you know,

Ms. Hurricane Paula. And I remember getting a phone call for my little brother one time. Man, you need to come home, man. But what do you mean? Come home. I can't come home. Boy, it's football season. I'm, you know, I'm locked in.

Well, mommy them jumped on Grandmama. They out there in the grad. They out there in the grass and they're tough. I'm like, man, boy, go out there and stop it. What is you calling me for? I'm all the way in Cincinnati. There's nothing I can do. I'll take a phone call once I get,

once I get out of, you know, I'm like, come on, Chauncey. So, I mean, that's why I kind of understand it. I get it because I've been in the situation before. Wasn't present for it. But after hearing my grandma's side of the story, hearing my mama's side of the story, I'm like, come on, y'all.

Now, you need to stop drinking. Grandma, you need to stop talking to her like that. It, but it happens. It happens. You know, they're talking about, man, you won't have good luck hitting on old people. You're right. You won't have good luck. If I'm an old person, you won't have no good.

You're absolutely right. You are absolutely right. Put them hands on them on. And that's sad. I have a relationship with my kids that I've explained to them. Our dynamic won't ever change. No matter how wealthy. you become, no matter how poor I become. I'm your father. You'll always be my child.

So we're going to keep this dynamic the way it is. I might be in a situation where I can't do for myself and you'll have now all of a sudden, you'll have to be the parent in the room, but I'm still the parent. I've explained that to my kids. My kids understand that. And when things got to a point where, you know, hey, let's just, hey, let's just take some time. hey we'll reconvene in a couple of days we'll reconvene in a week i don't need you to say something you regret i don't want to say something i regret ain't nobody gonna put their hands on nobody because everybody grown here even when my kids weren't going they got to a certain age i was like look y'all know right from wrong i'm not fin the discipline you like by about by you know

hand putting my hands on you spanking you and doing all that kind of stuff i physically i ain't punch him up here to slap him anything like that but i say you to the age now i feel i can talk to you you understand uh tim fitzgero uh go at uh go at power cats has confirmed there was a post game confrontation at avivia stadium involving mark johnson father of kansas state quarterback avery johnson and another man believed to be mr johnson's eldest son according to witnesses the conflict turned physical according to one source nor arrests were made stemming from the incident. There's reportedly a video of the disagreement, and at least one eyewitness is tied to Kansas State Athletics. Kansas State lost Iowa State 24-21 in the, well, college football

classic. Avery Johnson completed 21 of 30 passes, 273, two touchdowns. He also ran for a touchdown. But that was a good game, right? Did you get, did you get a chance? Yeah, he had to get. That was a good game. Yeah, it was. But the thing is, don't know, if you can't hell of your alcohol. Don't drink. This is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is a, the, the starting quarterback of a, of a, of a, of a, of a, of a, his dad and his brother are rolling, a fighting is raining. They're in, you know, I, hold on, hold on, hold on.

This is, I hate people that, that act, act slow. Stop with the BS like this is normal in our community. So now. we sit there acting like this don't have i'll tell you about i i'll tell you but no no we're not saying that it doesn't happen but you have to also understand just because it happens doesn't make it right no i just someone saying stop acting like it's not normal i mean what what rock it ain't what rock what rock we living under when we see it every single day every single day we see families families it's us all

the time. How many more examples we need? So it's not normal. It ain't normal. I've been seeing it all my life. I hate when people say dumb shit. Not you. I'm not talking about you. I don't come just talk about in the chat. Like, what are you talking about?

God damn. It's just tough to see. Because we got enough. Without us fighting ourselves, we got enough to fight. A big battle. A bigger battle. Outside of us. We got enough. We got enough issues that don't involve us. I've been, I've been stopped arguing with people of my complexion. And they act like

they live under a rock, man. I'll let y'all, I'll let y'all have it. Y'all, you know, this is how y'all feel. Y'all say, okay, cool, I'm good. I move on. I think I just have more pressing things going on than to argue with someone that looks like me that even though they can come from a familiar background like mine, it's not even worth it anymore, oh, Joe? No, I'm just saying in general. I'm just saying. I know what you said. I know exactly what you're saying.

I'm not saying it's right. But to sit here and act like it doesn't happen is not prevalent in our culture and try to sit here, act like you part of the goddamn royal family. Like, that's not true. Like, what do you talk about? What do we talk about? Like, come on, man. Time for our final segment, the evening is time for Q and A.

I need a drink. Him is the underscore Jordan. So what's the difference between Sanders and Schuck's performance? Y'all dog, my boy, but he's been playing pretty good. The difference is that Shook is getting first team, second team reps. He's being put in a situation where he can succeed. The other guy isn't. When he had as an opportunity to go in as a starter and they ran competent plays, he played well. When he didn't play well, Ocho and I came out here and said Stradur did not play well tonight. He has to do a better job of when

the player is not there. Don't exacerbate it and make it worse by taking a sack. But I see what you're trying to do. Oh, no, when Shuck didn't play well, we said he didn't play well. When Shadour didn't play well, we said he didn't play well. The only difference is Shuck is getting first and second team reps. Nate Godwin, they took him out because they were trying to win the game, which they did. Shadour was taking 40 yards sack, 14. So you won the game where the guy that's not going to be on your roster.

So let me ask you a question. So if something happens to the first two guys, Let's just say for the sake of argument, they go with four quarterbacks. The three, the first three get hurt. So are you going to sign, are you going to sign a Snoop Huntley off the street and bring him in? Or are you going to go with your door? I'm just asking you, Nate. Let me know what you thinking.

And you know what? Normally, I think the guy, I thought the objective was, okay, let's get the guys that's going to be on this team. Let's get them ready to play. Let's put them in a situation that they can potentially face. So what's the likelihood? Now, if the fourth quarterback is going to be Snoop Huntley, by all means,

he should have got that final drive. But if it's not, he should not have been in there. Hey, it's going to, listen, we're doing all this discourse. Who's starting for the Cleveland Browns? Who's the quarterback? Who's number two?

Who's number three? Boy, when football season starts, you're not listening to me. When football season starts and all these teams have gotten completely, better, and they got to compete in that goddamn AFC North against them Ravens.

Matter of fact, you know what? I'm not going to say nothing. You'll see week one. You'll see week. You'll see week one. Every week, they send your door into a gunfight with a Super Soaker. Yes, your door has to stop drifting in the pocket and start playing, stop playing hero ball. But it's got to get out. It's getting out of hand with the Browns. Yes. He drifts.

There are situations that he should have stepped up, and he went lateral. He doesn't have the foot speed to outrun people lateral. It just doesn't. He's got to do a better job and understand. Every play isn't meant for you to be successful. Sometimes success is the form of an incompletion, throwing it out of bounds.

Sometimes success is shaking the ball down. Sometimes success is knowing when the journey is over. He has to do a better job of understanding that. He wants to make every play and there's not been a quarterback in the history of the game, nor will they ever be to make every play.

Jason's Zeldor, Sanders showed what he is today. A bum, a diva, ha-ha. The Sanders fanboy is going to cry in their basement or in their mama's arms while Jackson Dart is lighting it up and showing he's the real deal. Again, he's in there with starters.

He's in there throwing to guys that are going to be on the roster. I mean, I'm trying to figure out what you guys don't get at. They are doing that on purpose. They are purposely doing that. I'm a firm believer. I give credit when it's due. I've been how, hey, I said the first game he played. He played well.

He came out, played well against the Ocho. he looked really good. And I was like, hey, he's going to challenge you. He's going to play sooner than later. I've given credit. I don't know. I don't, but I mean, look, I appreciate you watching the show and dropping a thing in the chat. But if you watched us, well, you know what?

Just because you're in the chat, that'll mean you're talking to Ocho and I. Because I think we've been very complimentary of Jackson Dart. So. Reb Debo, let's your door either. Cutter traded. I would love for hitting the team to be the cheese and to have him and then flip him for pigs down the road. That would be great. Let him, you know, a veteran quarterback. He doesn't have to play. Just get better. Get those scout team reps, Ocho. We know what Andy can do with a quarterback. That goes without saying. Brown's fan. Brown's fan here. I'm sorry, but what normally happens when your third

stream quarterback, you don't play with starters. Absolutely, you do. When you play, when you play as well as he did in his first start, you absolutely get reps in practice with the ones and twos. Now, I'm not telling you, I'm not a fan. I was a former player. And I was a former player that started off at third and fourth teams that played well in a preseason game and got repped with the ones and twos. So Wes, you're talking as a fan. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I ain't tell him what somebody told me. I'm telling him what I know. That is exactly what it always goes. That's the way it's always gone. Always. The latter part of your question is problem is there always been he's holding on to the ball too long.

I agree. He does. He holds on to the ball too long. He's trying to make every play. Sometimes I think he's trying to play hero ball. Sometimes hero ball is throwing the ball out of bounds. Sometimes it's checking the down to the back. Sometimes it's getting the ball out of your hand. That's okay. every play is not meant to get 10, 15, 20, 30 yards. And he has to understand that. Spiritual War exposed. No, it don't come down with Sanders' name. It comes down to being black in America.

That kid just wants to play ball, and white media comes with circus and blame Sanders for it. Look. I just, look, it might not be in Cleveland. His opportunity to play in the National Football League might not be in the Cleveland, don't you? It just might not be. Might not be.

Jimmy Cleveland said it's sad, but y'all, their keeping should do a four for merchandise and seating using him. Gabriel has no merchandise on the website. My question is, why were teammates so distant and some even laughing,

including Dylan, who last game he sat a little, after poor at this poor performance it says i felt tension all around um him today it was obvious i look i i don't look at in the preseason being a vet i mean after my second after my second year first the second year i still felt like a rookie because now i'm a bona fide tight end i know what so after my second year so going into my third year i kind of felt like a vet and you know hey, I conducted myself like that. You know, obviously, Dan wasn't big on that we losing

and all that kiki-ki-kiing. So, you know, if you were laughing, you know, until you were. Hey, the way do you guys be kiki-ki-kiing on the side, man? Why they're losing? Yeah, even in the preseason. Dan didn't play that.

Mike Shannon and they play that best like that, man. So they'll get it figured out. At least I hope they do. Jordan Hafer, let me get Ocho going, man. I'm 31 years old construction worker and can throw the ball better than Shador. Stop the hype. All right, you got it, you got it.

If Shadur gets released and the same, Saints or the Steelers don't pick him up. Do you think he gets another shot in the league? Yes. Absolutely. Shadour had the same problem in college. Held on the ball way too long, refused to throw it away, led the NCAA and sacks taking the last two years.

He played. He could get away with it in college, not the NFL. You're correct. He does hold on to the ball far too long. Mr. Jet Life, how can fans sit there and judge a quarterback play without intimately watching offensive line play? It's ridiculous. five is not out there with practice squad lineman, but 12 is.

Jalen Lister, what do the Browns do when Deshaun Watson gets back? How much more money does he have guaranteed left on that contract? Is it up after this year? I don't think Deshaun Watson is coming back this year. So if you mean 26, that's going to be open for debate. Um Um King is over 902 on left for

So he have So whatever he has left is on 26 He'll have no money left after 26 Wow King me said She stop saying these MMA guys Who will beat a boxing in a street fight these leg-hugging guys will quickly get put to sleep by a boxer sweet science

oh oh that's hey that's i don't know matter of fact in a street fight street fight where anything goes i'm taking my i'm taking my chance with i'm taking my chance with i'm going to because the first thing you're going to do is they're going to go low go low yeah they're going low right away and obviously boxes aren't they aren't ready for that man john john's going to kick somebody dead in their face right of side of the head. Then what? Tones Z said, Uncanocho, give me three things you would do if the St. James trade A.K. and Drake London to get picks. I think they should just blow the whole thing

up and start over. Hold on. A.K. and Drake London. Drake London is aware. Yeah. Drake London is in Atlanta, right? he's talking about AK or the Alvin Camaro? No, that don't make no sense. They got B. John Robinson. There would be no need for that switch to even happen.

They need a goddamn quarterback in Florence. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what that was about. Jay Komoda, Ocho trivia question. Which rapper said in the game, I'm no cheetah, I'm a tiger, I'm a cougar, I'm a panther, I'm a binger, Ocho Cinco, his song

came out in 07. that was lou wane i remember that oh i take your word for about i don't know jay money say we love the show happy birthday to my woman re re happy birthday j money wanted to say tell you happy birthday hopefully he did something very very pleasant for you and he did not take you to one of those 28 spots Well, you is woman, so clearly y'all don't got that at the way so. Only one of me three said, Uncle Ocho, can y'all give my newborn son a welcome to the world? Mackay Josiah Pierce, born August 20th.

Yes, we can. Mackay, Josiah, welcome to the world. I can babysit, too. Let me know. Man, with your impatient ass, you call, you call, uh, what's you call? I'm impatient when to come to kids. I got 2 and 11 kids. That's okay.

And you call Grandpa to come get a sweet, uh, what's the baby? We didn't have been in the show. No, exactly, see. Frisch fry, fridge fry, do a thing. French fry like, peace. It's truly godly. Do you see, uh, do you see him going to CFL for trials next year to make a full return if he gets cut since the NFL isn't going to let him

and let him back easily. No, I think he's going to get a chance. I do. Maybe not with the Browns, but I think he's going to get a chance. Dankey 65, Frisador. He's our son, not watching Browns anymore. Damn.

Boosie said I paid for Super Chat just for Ocho, not to give me a serious answer last night. I wanted to know how does a guy run a 4-240 and up with a 91 speed Ocho, the guy runs So at 4-2, he should be at least 98. He's a 4-2, right? He's a 91 right now, so I want to see

4-2, week 1, week 2, week 2, week 3, week 4, week 5, and so on, and then I'll raise this rating. He's saying at 4-2, considering they're not very many 4-2. No, I don't want to hit that. It's a few 4-2s in the NFL. I want to see 4-2 when it actually count. Not running a straight line.

The game of football is not playing a straight line. So show me 4-2 on the field. Like Tyree, when Tyree plays, he shows us 4-2 all the time. He's been doing it over, over what, damn there a decade now. So Matthew Golden, young bull, show me 4-2 every week, and you'll be where you need to be. Simple. All right.

Ocho, wouldn't believe what happened to me today. I had to call in the work because I dreamed the Bengals won their first five games. Hey, that's probably what's going to happen. That's probably what's going to happen. We might win the first 10. Actually, we might win the first 10. Joe Burrow decided to play in the preseason. Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, and everyone else on that offense.

They decided to play them. No, no, no, no. This was their choice. This was their choice. They said they wanted to play. Huh? And that's going to be the difference. And why we'll be in San Francisco come first week of

February did they say they didn't want to play last year yeah they didn't want to play last year they were paid last year they were too cool for school what about the year before two cool to school okay we started in that concludes this up go ahead yeah we started a new trend that concludes this episode of nightcap we want to thank you for joining us again I'm your favorite uncle Shannon Sharp my partner and co-host Liberty City's own being a ring of fame, honorary, the Pro Bowl of the All-Pro. He's Chad, Ocho Sinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button.

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