Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: T.O. wants to return to the NFL & Coach Prime's mistake

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” react to Terrell Owens saying he wants to play for the 49ers this season, Coach Prime saying he tweeted at former players because he was "bored" and much more! 02:50 - Tyreek wants to Retire in Miami05:25 - TO wants to join his son in SF20:47 - Johnny WIlson Eagles29:16 - Nabers vs Daniels ROY bet33:07 - Deion Sanders38:14 - Q and Ayyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and deposit restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources. Tyreek Hill started his NFL career in Kansas City. He hopes to enter the Miami. Tyreek Hill heading into his third season with the Dolphins. He said around the bar podcast that he never wants to leave Miami. I love Miami. I love every bit of it.

My wife loves it. My kids loves it. My mom loves it. And it's just a beautiful city to live in. There's so much stuff to do. Obviously, I would like to retire in Miami. I love every bit of it. My wife loves it. My kids love it. My mom loves it. And it's just a beautiful city to live in. There's so much stuff to do. Obviously, I would like to retire in Miami. I don't see why it can't happen. I don't see why it can't happen.

I know how I would like to see him finish with. I would like to see him finish in Kansas City. Do me one favor. Can you go back and find a player in any sport that said he wouldn't like to retire from the team? Ocho Cinco said, I want to retire Bingo. Carson Palmer, Burrow, Collegeworth, Boomer Sison, yada, yada, yada.

Every Bronco, every Cowboy, every Packer, every Viking. Who says, nah, I think Bronco, every Cowboy, every Packer, every Viking. Who says, nah, I think I want to play about seven, eight years here, then I'm going to move it on down the road. What's he supposed to say?

Yeah. I think that I guarantee you, I'm not sure how it's going to happen. I'm not sure when it's going to happen because Tyreek got a lot of tread left on the tires to play. He got a lot to play. But for some reason, I think when things end here in Miami,

I have a feeling he teams up with Pat Mahomes one more time. He teams up with Pat Mahomes one more time and they make another run at it together. Let me ask you a question. You think Tom Brady wanted to retire in New England? Yes or no? Oh, that's a good one, Unc. Of course it is. That's a good one.

You think Brett Favre, you think Favre and all those guys, before it soured, before the team soured on them, did they want to leave? No. Yeah, they wanted to leave. Yeah. Quarterback situation a little different, too. I mean, most cousins, he wanted to stay in Washington.

He wanted to stay in Minnesota. It's reported one of the reasons why he didn't want to stay in Minnesota. They were very upfront. We're going to take a quarterback. And lo and behold, remember the old adage, sometimes you can make your destiny on the very road you took to avoid it.

Why did he go to Atlanta? Because Minnesota told him they were going to take a quarterback. Yeah. And on his road, he made his destiny on the very road he took to avoid it. Atlanta took a quarterback earlier than what Minnesota did. Yeah. Yeah.

A man can make his destiny on the very road he took to avoid it. I like that. I like that. Sometimes, listen, it's inevitable. You can't play the game forever and you're coming off injury. So they needed some insurance. They needed some security

because the sample size of what they saw from the quarterbacks they already had there, it wasn't enough. And we can't gamble. Even though we gave you the money we gave you, we're going to gamble on that end. But if you go down, we're not gambling and leaving this quarterback on the table.

We're not leaving this quarterback on the table, and there's an opportunity to get him. Terrell Owens says he wants to join his son Tariq on the 49ers compared to LeBron and Bronny. Terrell Owens is 50 years old,

hadn't played in the NFL since 2010. He wants the San Francisco to have an open mind when it comes to reviving his career. Yeah. That's especially true in the NFC West team signed his son Tyreek as an undrafted free agent. During an appearance on 95.7 The Game, he said, if anything, like LeBron James and his son,

Bronny, play on the same team in the same area, sign me up. I told Jed York, I'm telling John Lynch, trust me, I'm a viable option on third down in the red zone. I can still get the job done. And I absolutely can.

Man, stop this. Hey, absolutely can. This is one of those situations with me as well. With me as well. There are certain people, you know, age is nothing but a number. There are people that are just freakish athletes regardless of age. Terrell Owens is one of them. I vouch for my dog. I'm telling you right now. Never stop working out to this day. In shape. In shape, still catching, still training with the current NFL players. Let me get this right. He last played in 2010.

Nobody called in 2011, 2012, 2013, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19. So now they're going to call in 2024. Listen, nobody was calling to date me for about seven, eight years too. And all of a sudden,

all of a sudden, a call came out of nowhere and boom, I've been dating ever since. But all it take is one. Your dating doesn't rely on your athletic ability. Rel ain't going to call your ass

if you in a wheelchair. If you can't walk, you on crutches She calling you? What, she better? She calling you, be for real Since you went there hypothetical She calling you, yes or no?

No So, and that's what I'm saying T.O. bro I love you to death bro, but get this up It's over It's over. It's over. It ain't never over.

You know what? It is over. It's over when the fat ladies sing. When the fat ladies sing, that's when it's over. She's 700 pounds. It's over. She on my 600 pounds. That's it. Hey, I like it.

I like the vision, though. I like the vision. LeBron, let me ask you a question. So let's just say for the sake of argument, LeBron James had been retired 14 years. So now he's 50. Let's just say 10 years. So LeBron is 50

years old. You think somebody going to sign LeBron James as great as he was to let him come back and play with his son yeah no it's not gonna happen it's a real it's realistic for LeBron because LeBron is currently playing

his son is in the NBA draft they wasn't gonna do that for Ken Griffith Sr he asked to play with his son. If I'm not mistaken, I think he was with the Rangers. Was he with the Rangers? And they ended up releasing him. They gave him the opportunity. But he was still an active player.

He wasn't retired for a decade plus. Yeah. Hey, when I look at the game today and where the game is going and where the game has come, the rules of the game, the nature of the game, and I think about T.O. obviously being one of the greatest to ever play, top two, top three. He hasn't played in 15 years. There are a lot of things I hasn't played in 15 years! There are a lot of things I haven't done in 15 years that if I had

to do it tomorrow... And you can't do it with the same... So you believe you can run a 40? You can run a 40 in 4-4. Oh, whoa, whoa. Don't you... Listen, I'm not the one to challenge when it comes to anything athletic right now. As a matter of fact, that guy that you challenged last night

that won the 100 and 200 in Texas, he hit me up. He said, put it on the line. Tell him drop it on the floor. Yeah, he said, put it on the line. Tell him drop it on the floor. I got him. Tell him drop it on the floor. I got all my money.

I got all my money on him. Hey, Unc. He'll spot you 10 yards and beat you in 100. Well, he'll lose. Unc, you do realize I still train as if I'm playing. I don't care. Wait, let me finish. Let me finish.

You do understand I play in a soccer league, so I'm in elite shape right now, running every day. You do realize that, right? I do. You do. I train as if I'm still playing because I play on a team where I have to be at my best week in and week out. You in 46-year-old shape.

You ain't in 26-year-old shape. My 46-year-old shape is better than some of the 20-year-olds. Don't go there. No, it's not. No, it ain't. Shit me. No, it ain't. See, I'm going to make you a believer. That's what I'm going to do. No, you ain't. We don't believe you. Matter of fact, me and T.O. are going to make you a believer because the Bengals called me today. Zach Taylor said they're going to bring me

in a training camp. Hey, they called you to say how you doing and they got a reunion coming up and they asked, do you want to come back? Hey, no, but all jokes aside, all jokes aside, even a 50-year-old Terrell Owens

can go out there and be productive in today's game. And I will die on that hill. The thing is that you know the first thing to go is what your lateral movement guys can still run straight ahead straight ahead yeah yeah yeah but but you know the game ain't played like that oh yeah it never has been yeah never has been but listen hey man t man these corners man they won't stand a chance man man Ocho 50 bro

50 yes it does Ocho so let me ask you a question how many 50 old Jerry Rice was he the physical specimen Jerry was the only one and he caught passes at 42 so

Terrell Oren is eight years removed. He hadn't played in the NFL in 15 years. Right. But he's eight years older than Jerry, and Jerry was playing every year for 20 straight. Come on, Ocho, man. Listen, let me ask you a question. It's 32 NFL teams, right?

Yes. How many receivers do you think are on each team? At least five. At least five on each team. Five times 32. What's that? I'm not a math major, so I'm going to let you figure it out. 160. So you think there are 160? No, 190.

190. So out of that 190, you think all 190 receivers on these NFL teams are better than T.O.? 160. 160. 35 times two is T.O.? 160. 35 times 2 is 160, right? 160. Let's put things in a perspective.

You think there are 160 players better than T.O. right now? At the age of 50, yes. Man, shit. Remember the wire? Remember doing it from the wire? Shit. Man, you tripping, man. At 50, shit. Hey, you remember the wire? Remember doing it from the wire? Shit. Man, you tripping, man. Yeah.

Hey. At 50, yeah. You, man. All right. Okay. You know, T. Chat. Chat, there are 160 people in the NFL right now.

Young gongs, young bulls. Do you think every last one of them is better than T or right now at 50? Yeah. Shit. Hell no. Man, T.O. would run circles around some of them dudes right now. Could he outrun some of them in a 40? Yes. All of

them. Well, except the top. Except the top runners. Except the top boys. See the hyperbole. See, you guys, you don't know how to take a compliment. You got to be you guys, you guys go overboard. I didn't go overboard. What did I say wrong?

Yes, you did. Okay, so... I wish I had a list of people right now and just... I'm trying to figure out what person... Chad, what person y'all believe? I mean, think about if joe when how jordan looked now he let himself go he didn't let himself go the year and a half he was out but imagine had jordan waited 15 years and tried to do it so instead of instead of coming back and playing he would have have waited. So he left in 93. He didn't play 94, 95.

He played half of 95. So now he comes back in 2009. Y'all still believe Jordan could have competed? Man, stop, Ocho. UK, how you going to tell Jordan what he can do? If he believes in himself and believes he can do it, how you going to tell him what he can do? It's not about believing, but it's about a level of expectation

because you've got to realize, what has T.O. said? See, coming out there, oh, he can make a couple of thirds. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what people remember T.O. for. T.O. has the third most receiving touchdown. T.O. has the third most receiving yards. So he

can't come back and play a third down or red zone. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Why he can't? Because that's not the expectation that the people have for him. Well, listen, expectations out the window when you're given an opportunity to do a certain thing. Whoa! You just

said T.O. was going to be T.O. Now you want to lower the bar because you said why would you lower the bar? He lowered the bar. Did you notice he said I can come in and do certain things on third down? That's why he said that. He 50

in a pro sport like football. He's not going to take those licks like that anymore. Oh, what licks are we taking in these days? Anyway, we damn near playing flag football. Yeah. Ask Kareem Johnson, I mean

Kareem Jackson about licks. Ain't no licks going on. At all. In a minute, I'm telling you, we're going to be playing two-hand touch. Oh, Lord have mercy. Yeah. T.O. can play right now. I'm standing on that hill. Play what?

Anything. Nah. can play right now. I'm standing on that hill. Play what? T. Anything. Nah. Flag who? Nah. 49ers. T.O. gonna be like... Let's go, T. Boy, y'all get bad people say anything. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news, previews, recaps, and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. But I just tried to figure out in a pro sport, nobody called you for 15 years. Well, in 15 years, your son hadn't been... Your son being there ain't got nothing to do with you. You aging. Well, that's what this is talking about. Him wanting to play with his son, even if it's in just training camp.

I like the idea. I like the vision. I like where he's going with it. So let me ask you a question. If that's the case, if teams thought T.O. could play, why didn't they call him in 2011? He can play in 2011. Well, why didn't they call him in 2012?

Okay, why didn't he play in 2012? I don't know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But you said he could still play. So I need you to tell me which one of these 32 teams, because there were 32 teams back then too. In 2010, there were 32 teams. So I'm just trying to figure out, I just want you to tell me,

why didn't they call him 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23. I mean, Tio has ventured off and doing other things. I know he ventured off. He probably didn't answer, honestly. Man, Tio has been talking about getting back in the league every year since he last got played in the league. So stop doing that.

He does this every year. So don't do that, Ocho. Don't do that now I don't know I ain't hear that yes you did yes you did pull up the articles Ash when I was on what you call him he was talking about somebody calling him during the season

every year so you still haven't told me why they haven't called him in 15 years when I think about this I'm glad you brought that up because I've received a few calls to come back and play as well, but I didn't answer. Ocho, stop it. Ocho, I'm not going to let you tell people that because

tell me who it was and I'll call them and ask. Oh, it was the Bengals, but I couldn't make it. No, no, no, don't worry. Don't say no more. I'll call them tomorrow and ask. I'll get back to the chat on Wednesday. All right. Ask them. I'm going to. on Wednesday alright ask him I'm gonna I'm gonna

I'm gonna ask them I'm gonna have somebody very close to Mike Brown very close I can call Mike right now you don't need to do that I need to call him for myself because what I'm gonna do oh yeah we did call no no no ain't gonna be no joke joke I'm gonna have somebody I'm going to do, oh yeah, we did call, no, no, no, ain't going to be no joke, joke. I'm going to have somebody

very close. I'll get back to y'all on Wednesday, chat. Yeah, yeah. I'll get back to y'all on Wednesday, chat. I can't let you put that out there for the chat. I can't let you put that out there now. If it's real, I'm going to come back and tell the chat. Yes, they reached out. You said last year?

Huh? You said last year. I forgot what year that was. Okay, okay. That's they reached that. You said last year? Huh? You said last year. I forgot what year that was. Okay. Okay. That's what I thought. Yeah. Okay. Now we're moving on. We're moving on, chat. Johnny Wilson stuck out. Johnny Wilson stuck out like a sore

thumb in Eagles rookie practice. Listed at 6'6", 231 pounds. There weren't very many wideouts to match Wilson's height. A six-rounder out of Florida State admitted he modeled his game after Harold Carmichael, who was listed at 6'8", 225 pounds when he played for the Eagles.

Wilson's height led to speculation he could switch position from wide receiver to tight end. The Eagles are thin at the position behind Dallas Gardner and C.J. Uzama. But the position switch isn't going to happen in Philly at the moment.

I play receiver. A lot of people have an opinion on what I should be. I'm on the team. I play for the Eagles. There's been no talk about me being a tight end. Do you remember Harold Carmichael? He was tall as hell. I used Harold Carmichael on

my ultimate team on Madden. I think Harold went to Jackson. Did Harold go to Jackson or Southern? I think he went to Southern. Because I had a I had a friend. I think Harold Carmichael went to Southern. Because he went to Southern as a quarterback. He went to Southern as a quarterback.

He went to Southern as a quarterback and the coach told him, he said, nah, you ain't play no quarterback here. They put him at wide receiver. When I was going to, I used to see him a lot of times when I was going to the Super Bowls and stuff, but I hadn't seen Harold in a minute.

But yeah. How tall is he? 6'6". Harold was 6'8". No, not Harold. I know Harold was 6'. This guy is 6'6". 6'6", what?

By what? 2'31". So he got the frame. He can put on a little 10, 15 pounds and be, I mean, he can be Gonzalez. He can be Grant. Hell, Grant. Grant 6'6". Yeah. I mean, he can be Gonzalez. He could be Grant. Hell, Grant. Grant, fix, fix. Yeah.

I mean, I like him playing receiver at 6'6", but again, as long as you have the tools, as long as you have the tools, even though you're 6'6", to be efficient within the offense, within the timing of the offense. Obviously, you're very tall. You know, being able to get off the ball.

Can you get off the ball? Can you beat press? Can you beat man-to-man? Like all those small things. Now, if you struggle in those areas because you're playing against smaller guys that are much quicker than you that are going to challenge you

that's going to try to disrupt the timing of the offense because you are 6'6", you know, then it might be time if you struggle in that area to bring yourself inside to give you a better chance at creating separation and getting open. Finding spaces.

Finding holes. That's a big-ass target. Yes. You remember Matt Jones was a quarterback. A big target. You know, could run fast. They drafted him as a wide receiver. Yeah. There's more to playing a wide receiver than running fast. They found that out.

Quick. To move him to tight end, now granted, it'll be a little easier transition now because they block less. For me, move to tight end, Ocho, it was a mindset. Here I am, they move me to tight end, I'm 215 pounds. But I'm just

like, nah, you're not going to whip my ass all day. I'm going to win some of these. I'm going to get me a couple of licks. I might have to run after with Ocho, but I'm going to get me a couple of licks in. Oh, no, you're not going to beat me up all day. Oh, dude. Right. And so the thing is, is it's mine.

Like I said, I'm going to start him out. We'll see what he can do. How does he get against press? How does he release? Does he run the circle? Because, son, I can't have you running wide. Hey, you need to take as narrow a stem as possible. Get off the press.

Stack him. Because if all you do is run the loop, dude's going to run you out of bounds. Every time. Every time. That's what guys don't understand. See, they think it's college. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I got speed. I just release without understand. See, they think it's college. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I got speed. I just release without running.

Oh, no. Everybody is just as fast as you, if not faster. And riding right out of bounds. Yes. And you know they're going to arm bar him. Put that arm out there. Riding right on up out of bounds. Come on, son.

You got to get off press. And you know what most of the people are going to do? Because he's so damn big. They're going to jump jam him. I'm going to press the is up out of bounds. Come on, son. You got to get out pressed. And you know what most of the people are going to do? Because he's so damn big, they're going to jump jam him. I'm going to press the ish out of him. They're going to jump jam him. Yes, they're going to jump jam him. Yes. And know when you're that tall, your quick twitch fibers ain't really like that. Because guess what, Ocho?

When you're that tall, what you got to do? You got to sink down and start getting up. You got to sink down. Yeah. If anything, you better start low. Hey, listen. Don't start high to do you got to sink down you got to sink down yeah if anything you better start low don't hey listen don't start high

to come low just to get off the ball you better start low with your shoulders already down like you're coming out the goddamn blocks or something

now that you mentioned it now I'm curious now I want to see him run routes I want to see him do one on one now that's a big that's a big

like I'm saying like okay you look at Randy Randy was 6'4". Yeah. So he's two inches taller. But Randy, Randy was slender.

Randy, what? Randy, you think Randy, what was Randy? Two, 200, 210 maybe? But don't forget now, Randy Moss also ran a damn 4'1", 4'2".

Yes, he ran 4'2". But that's what I'm saying. The angular frame. Dude's 231. That's a big, even though he's 6'6", that's still a big-ass kid. Yeah,. Dude's 231. That's a big... Even though it's 6'6", that's still a big-ass kickin'. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's a big boy. That's a big-ass target, Ochoa. Big boy. Yeah. Hey, unless he got 4'3 speed, I'm pressing. Yeah. Wait, hell, he might be strong as hell.

But... If he's good at the point of attack, he might be able to pull and tug like brandon marshall used to do real well damn brandon marshall to they would they would welcome contact man pull and tug and get through and stay right within the time and the offense every time i still don't know how they do that shit bro you got to realize how big they were you look at megatron's what six three six four3", 6'4", 241. Brandon Marshall, Julio.

Those guys, you know, yeah, they want to play. Now, hey, red zone? I'll put his ass out wide. I'll back shoulder fade his all day long. All day. Like Jimmy Graham? Hey, I got a role for you, son. Son, if you can just get off press just a little bit, we can use you in the red zone.

Because that's a big-ass target. I ain't got to be perfect, Ocho. Yeah, just throw it up. Put it in the vicinity and let him do the rest because I'm sure he has a basketball background anyway as well if he's 6'6". I hope so because how Randy

make his name? Well, he mossed him. Randy going up over the top. Over the top every time. So at 6'6", even with a little 35-inch vertical, you getting on up there because you already got, you're going to be, you're four inches,

five inches taller than the average corner in the NFL anyway. Right. So you already had an advantage. Right. Excuse me. So,

I mean, I like it. I'm going to check him out. I'm going to check him out, Ocho. I'm going to pay attention to him. I'm going to watch, see if he gets an opportunity to see what he can do. I'm going to check him out. I'm going to check him out, Ochoa. I'm going to pay attention to him. I'm going to watch him get an opportunity to see what he can do. I'm going to pay close attention to him in the preseason.

Preseason. I want to see. Yeah, I'm going to see. 6'6", that receiver. I ain't really. Have we seen anything like that? It ain't been that tall in a long time. 6'4", yes.

6'5", yes. Tight end, 6'6", yes. We've seen Jimmy Graham. Wrong. Wrong. Jimmy Graham. 6'4", yes. 6'5", yes. Tight end, 6'6", yes. We've seen Jimmy Graham. Wrong. Wrong. Jimmy Graham. 6'5". What was, how tall is Kelsey? No, Kelsey about 6'4". Yeah. Who? Oh, you

know who was tall as hell? But he was a tight end, Martellus Bennett. That's, no, okay, yeah, Martellus was tall. Martellus like 6'7". Yeah. Play with the jaguars a while ago oh oh you talking about a mercedes mercedes mercedes lewis yeah mercedes mercedes tall i don't know i like it i like it i wish him well i wish him well i i hope during this time if he really wants to play receiver, especially at that height, he gets with a coach that can help with the intangibles

and all the nuances because of his height, so he can excel at the position so they don't try to change him or move him to tight end. Man, look here. They're going to move me to anything. I'm in the NFL. I said I wanted to play in the NFL. I didn't say what position. I left that open. I left that open. TBD in the NFL. I said I wanted to play in the NFL. I didn't say what position. I left that open.

I left that open. TBD to be determined. Hey, Ochoa, I have no pain. Whatever you need, coach. I'm here. I'm available. Even if it was just special teams, I'm in the lead. Yeah. I got you. Malik

Nabors had a huge rookie of the year bet with Jayden Daniels. Malik Nabors and Jayden Daniels are going from teammates to rivals, and there's a lot on the line. Neighbors was selected six overall and said he and Daniels, who was selected two overall, have a massive bet when it comes to rookie of the year. We're going to bet rookie of the year whoever loses has to pay $10,000 in cash. I like it. I like that.

I like it. I like that. I like it. I like competition. That's a good, healthy competition at that. Yeah. Good, healthy competition. Malik, you're at a disadvantage because you play a dependent position. Yeah. Malik Davis, I mean, Jay ain't going to have the ball in his hands all the time.

Yeah. He can throw it and run it. Mm-hmm. I think it's a good bet malik neighbors if if he's anything like what we've seen at lsu even though he's in new york even though there's unsurity at the quarterback position he's so good i think he can overcome the inconsistencies at the quarterback position because they're going to put him in position to make the plays they can make. I'm not saying he's Odell Beckham.

I think he has the potential to be just as good. Maybe not his rookie year. But Odell had Eli. Yeah. You think Daniel Jones, Eli? No, no. Let's not do that. Let's not disrespect Eli.

The great manning but Malik Nabors Malik Nabors has that type of talent and so I'm hoping I'm hoping he gets an opportunity to

to get a chance at winning this bet but Jaden Daniels obviously being the quarterback of the Washington Commanders is going to have the ball in his hands all the time and is definitely going to have an advantage. Because think about it.

Think about this. Look at the season Puka Ntukua had. And he lost that war to C.J. Stroud. Stroud, yeah. Look at the year Justin Jefferson had. Yeah. He lost that to Justin Herbert. Yeah.

So quarterback advantage, man. I mean, Puka, the most receiving yard by a rookie in NFL history. Yeah. And the most catches for a rookie. And he lost the award to CJ. Man, the quarterback got the advantage. It is what it is. Always.

The Heisman Trophy winner. Man, now the running back got to rush for like 2,500 yards to get a Heisman. Because the quarterback, he's going to throw for 4,000. He's going to probably rush for another 1,000. They're going to have 40 to 50 touchdowns. Yeah. When you were a rookie in the league, you had any bets? I bet my brother one year.

For real? Yeah, I bet I was going to catch more passes than he did. I called 53. He called 108. We were close. We were close on y'all. Then I came back the next year. I caught 81.

He caught 112. And then the closest I got, the closest I got, I caught 80. His last year in the league, I caught 81. He caught 112. The closest I got, I caught 87. His last year in the league, I caught 87. He caught 94. Yeah, Brett was slinging that thing, boy. Yeah. I was close. I was close. That's funny. Oh,

man. What? Okay, guys, it looks like people have been following the wrong 84. It's 84 spelled out. So you have to look at 84 C-L-O. It's in my bio, right? So just go look at the bio and you can see it. 84 is actually spelled out, not at the number 84.

The 84 is actually spelled out CLO as in 84 clothing. Coach Prime defends his recent tweets about former players by saying, I was bored. Prime, I got to do better and not ride with it, but I was bored.

I was bored. I didn't say nothing hurtful. I don't attack people. Yeah. That's too bad. Man, give me your phone, Ty. As a matter of fact, I should go out there. I think you're back home. I didn't come out there fishing.

He told me I can't keep the fish. Yeah, you got to throw the fish back now. Yeah, yeah. He got a bass. I think he got a bass pond. He got a crappie pond. I don't know if he got a catfish pond.

I know he got a bass and a crappie pond. Right. Hey. But I throw the bass back. But the crappie, you know, we got a good old mess of fish. K5, 4, 5, about the size of your hand right there. Right there. That's a good old eating. You gonna cook them? Yeah.

If you cook them, ain't gonna be no fish left in the damn pond. I ain't trying to catch all the fish. I ain't trying to be like Bootsy. Go out there and catch 200 fish every time. 200 fish. Yeah. But see, they used to see like when you used to go bass fishing. They had tournament

fish. That's what they did. They let you catch as many fish as you can. Now, you got a five fish limit. And you have to have an aeration system to keep the fish alive. But before, people were catching 50, 60, 70

fish. Well, you got 40 fishermen. You clean out a couple of times, you're going to clean the lake out. So now if you notice, they got a five-bass limit. Right. But you know me,

I'm the black Kevin Van Dam. I go out there, I'm going to wipe them out. You wipe them out? Yeah. You're better than me. Obviously, listen, I live in Miami.

Fishing is huge. It's big here. And I ain't never been on no boat, man. Yeah. You're better than me. Obviously, listen, I live in Miami. Fishing is huge. It's big here. And I ain't never been on no boat, man. As far as fishing is concerned, because I just don't have the patience. If I have to sit down anywhere, if I have to sit down anywhere for hours, it's going to be playing FIFA or Call of Duty. When you grow up in the country you go fish so guys the clothing brand is E-I-G-T-Y

F-O-R C-L-O so 84 is actually spelled out 84 C-L-O clothing so hopefully that helps you guys out no but see you had to go fishing

my grandmother worked at a nursing home. Right. So she's like, okay, you know, we going fishing. So I would have to go dig bait. So I would go in the, where water was in the ditch. I'd dig baits. We had kind of like a bait bed where we'd have, throw like slop and stuff and

throw slats of wood over it. Right. Keep it moist. And the base was there. I'd go dig base there. My grandfather actually had a refrigerator. You know how they... The refrigerator once it wasn't no good. My grandfather, Reesville, he put

dirt in there and he had like... I think he had red wigglers. I think he had Red Wigglers. I think he had Red Wigglers. Might have been Lucy out of Pink. But they're only certain. Red Wigglers, Looney out of Pink, Nightcrawlers, Jumpin' Jacks, what they call. Had crickets. We had a thing. We had crickets. Bless you. We had a thing that had

crickets. We fed them moist bread. They ate that. Oh, yeah. Moist bread? Yeah, we fed the crickets. Uh-huh. You know, we fed them moist bread. They ate that. Oh, yeah. Moist bread? Yeah, we fed the crickets. Yeah, we had a big old thing that, you know, that we had my grandfather go to the cricket farm.

Right. Buy crickets, they hatch. And, you know, we put a thing in there. That's what you fed them. You put water in there. They drank water. They ate the bread. Yeah.

Well, that's my first time hearing about that. As they say, pin it in the chat. Can you pin it in the chat? Okay. Yeah, but I like I used to go fishing all the time. I don't go as much

since my grandmother passed. I hadn't really gone. I went one time, went deep sea fishing. I went to the big island of Kona. But it ain't the same. I mean, I would go again. I mean, if

somebody wanted to go, I would go. But I need to go with some guys so I can talk ish. Yeah. Listen, if you go, let me know when you're going. I'm going. Huh? Man, Ash. Ash always talk about she want to do something.

She don't want to do nothing. I'm going too, but I want to know what it's like to fish. Knowing you, you'll fall in the lake. Hell no. I ain't taking you nowhere. She got the worst luck. Blue shoot. All you hear is blue shoot. What is that? Ash fell in the lake. Everybody already know. Ash

fallen in the lake. So no, we're not taking you. If we dare, I'm sure they'll take you on the boat because I ain't going to jump in the ocean. Now it's time, Ocho, for Q and A. Q and A. Cameron Norwood Jr., my question is, when the Timberwolves make the finals, can you give Ocho his phone call?

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. I want my phoneo regardless of whether the Wolves make the finals or not. I need my Funko right here behind me

with all my other collectibles and awards that I've received and earned. Matter of fact, I need my coffee mug too. A black one. I'll see what I can do, Ocho.

I appreciate you, man. I appreciate you. I appreciate you. If the sunshine and the water don't rise, I'll. I appreciate you, man. I appreciate you. If the sunshine and the water don't rise, I'll get it to you. That's a good one. Hey, hold on, man. Hold on, hold on. Hell no. I'm for the you

that way. Hey, that's a good line in the argument, right? That's a good line in the argument to throw off. Like, what did you just say? Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news, previews, recaps, and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee.

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I mean, Ocho don't got a problem letting you have his. Shit me. Don't sit in mine because I don't know. Don't do that. Ocho don't got a problem letting you have his. Shit me. Don't send it to me because I don't know. Don't do that. Ocho. If the sun... If the sun shines and the water don't rise,

I'll send it to you. Okay. But it look like the water gonna rise, so... I'm gonna change the ending to that. I'm gonna change the ending to that during the argument.

If the sun shines and the water right okay I like that uh Ocho tell Rell to DM Ash your address Ash already got my address

she don't got it she got it because the same address y'all use to send my plaques the volume said the plaque huh the volume said that. The volume got my address then. Oh, okay. Are you part of the volume? They got Colin, Colin, Colin got my address.

I turned it down, so I don't, I don't. Yeah, we're getting, we got. How many, how many you need a mug yeah one I'm only one drink coffee in here okay real don't need one nah nah she don't drink no goddamn I'm gonna say real got to get one

so I said two okay I appreciate it hey well you're a good dude man matter of fact that to me, now that's romantic. Me and Rel, early morning, getting up. Man, Rel ain't getting up to drink no coffee sitting on the back porch with you. Yes, she will. Because I play my jazz. I play my jazz.

I play my goddamn Jizzy Gillespie, you know, my Louis Armstrong. She'll come out there with me in the morning on Saturday mornings. She'll come out there with me, listen to my music while I smoke. All right. Lainey Ray said, not trying to cause trouble,

but I got to know what you guys think. People always do that. They say, I don't mean to bother you, but I'm going to bother you anyway. Now, she don't want to cause no trouble, but she don't cause it anyway. It's just like anytime somebody say, hey, I don't mean it anyway. It's just like anytime somebody say, Hey, I don't mean no disrespect.

What's about to come out of their mouth is going to be disrespectful. Not trying to cause trouble, but I got to know what you guys think a guilt take on Goldberg. Shouldn't have missed the game for the birth of his child. Me. Let me, let me, let me,

let me take it from my perspective. Yeah. My child is going to be born, but I got a different mindset. Let me take it from my perspective. Yeah. My child is going to be born. Uh-huh. But I got a different mindset, so I'm probably the wrong guy. Because it all depends. If it's a playoff game, we're going to have another baby.

I don't know if I'm going to be able to make it to the playoffs. Right. If it's the Super Bowl, I'm damn sure I ain't missing that. Missing that, right. Now, in Rudy's case, the baby was born. Uh-huh. And I'm assuming, I'm hoping, that mother and child was okay.

Once I find out mother and child is okay, I'm out of there. I'm gone. That's just me. Now, I'm not finna beat Rudy up. If I'm not mistaken, I think it's his first child. So he's...

Different mindset. Yeah. Let him get the number two. He might FaceTime the whole... He might Zoom the whole thing. Yeah. It's different. The first one, you know how you are with your first one.

Yeah. Doing everything right. Once baby and mama good? Man, I'm out like a scout on a new route. Oh, yeah. Where you going? To the game. But, Ocho, that's something that you need to have discussed beforehand.

So, therefore, when it happens, nobody's surprised by what the party does. Right. So, maybe they didn't have that discussion, but I'm going to have that discussion. Said, look, regular season game. Right. Hey, you know what? That's a great question now that I think about it. There's so many players, and I wonder what would happen

if circumstances like this has happened to you. What would you do? That's a good question to ask players, especially players that are active right now. I'm trying to think what I would do. You know, I'm playing. I ain't missing no game. Yeah. I ain't missing no game.

Listen, in delivery room, and whoever I'm having a child from would understand, they wouldn't even want me to miss a game. They wouldn't want me to miss no game. Boy, if you don't get your ass out there and go play, I'm trying to watch you on TV. That's my people. Hey, I'm going to try to make sure that thing happens. You know, I'm going to try to get it in July.

So guess what? The offseason, the baby come out in the offseason, you got a plan beyond God, y'all got to plan a little better. Common sense. I like it. You know what I'm saying? Hey, but like I said, I'm going to have that discussion once he find out, okay, man, I think I might have a baby in like

May, June. Okay. Okay, just what we're going to do. I'm going to be there for the bird. Once you're okay, I'm gone. We good? Okay. Long as you're there.

Just know, NBA finals. Push, baby. Push. Come on, baby. Come on, baby. You're doing so good you gotta breathe that's beautiful you gotta breathe relax family that's just me look everybody some people like hey my child i'm gonna be the first second third i want to be there i ain't finna beat you up about it me already know how I am.

I'm going to already have discussed it with her. We're going to be in agreement. Hey, you going, hey. Yeah. And see, and I'm just thinking about, I can see, I can see Rhea right now. If I was, if I was playing and she was delivering.

Man, I can hear, I can hear Rhea right now. Man, if you don't get your motherfucking ass out there, and go play some ball so me and your child can watch you on TV, we'll see you when the game is over. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I mean, it's just

everybody handles that situation differently. Just like some people, like when Brett Favre's father died, Brett played in the game. Some people would have been on bereavement and took off.

But Brett says he knew his dad would have wanted him to play. Likewise, if my grandmother, something perhaps, Lord forbid it didn't, my grandmother would want me to play. She's like, you coming home, I'm already gone. So what are you going to do?

That's how my grandmother was. So I already know what she would have wanted my brother and I to do because she made it abundantly clear. My grandfather passed. We didn't miss a whole bunch of days. We missed the day of the funeral. That was the of days. We missed the day of the funeral. That was the only day we missed, the day of the funeral. My grandma was like, what y'all staying home for?

Y'all can't do nothing? I'm just saying, that's the way old people thought back then. But like I said, to each his own. Everybody handles a situation. I'm not going to say that person is right. I'm not going to say that person is right. I'm not going to say that person is wrong. All I can speak to how I would have handled the situation. You can speak to how you would have handled the situation

and how Rael would have wanted you to handle the situation. Yeah. I can hear that ass in that curse, no. Man, if you don't get your ass out of here, man. Dr. Frankie L l bellamy said hey guys describe a favorite childhood toy or game that brings back fond memories for you oh tonka tonka trucks we don't got no truck we don't remember trucks yeah atari remember the game remember cubert or you didn't have atari we had't have no Atari. We didn't have no video. I had a handheld football game. You remember the

handheld football games? That was in the late 70s. That was before your time. Okay, yeah. Oh, Atari, 10-yard fight, Excitebike. Remember TurboGrafx-16? No. Oh, man.

Hey, she done brought back memories now. Oh, man. She done brought back memories now. Oh, man. I'm trying to think. Like Big Wheel? You had a Big Wheel? Yeah, I had a Big Wheel. Man, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to think. Oh, that's a good one uh what else we had we had uh you my um

simon says remember simon says yeah they let up and you speed up we had that we had uh the view master where you put the little card in there you could see it yeah it was red and you can't the side. You kicked the side. Yeah. I remember that. I had that. I had that. I had that.

What else did I have? I can't remember. What else was big back then? Man, we got clothes and stuff. We didn't really get a whole lot of toys. Yeah, I got toys. We didn't have no video games. I had an extensive He-Man collection where they had the figurines. Yeah had i had an extensive he-man collection where they had the

the figurines yeah yeah i had extensive he-man collection but yeah those are the ones that i can remember i remember my aunt brought me a piggy bank it was a smiling that piggy bank, and I don't know why. But Ocho, it went with me. So from 72, 82, 92. Don't tell me you broke it and took the money out. My sister. I put it on a shelf. And my sister grabbed something.

And it fell. And it broke. Oh. Yep. Damn. All the, I mean, I had like a silver dollar.

I mean, it was just the fact that it was like, it was so old. Right. I'm very, I'm very nostalgic. Like when people give me things like, like I used to collect money and I i had a girlfriend like she gave me coins you know she went to the bank and she gave me coins and she wrote on it i still have them

they have safe deposit box i don't you know go look at them every day but if somebody gives me something i keep it or at least i try to right at least i try to somebody you know a lot of times they come in where you get this from? You start, uh, it's gone. Because they know somebody gave it to you, it's out of there. Like, damn, I think my brother gave me that.

No, he didn't. You lied. She is nasty. Mr. Sharp, riddle me this. Please explain Red Grant being at Savannah State with you, where you're 10 years his senior. I heard riddle me this. Please explain Red Grant being at Savannah State with you when you're 10 years his senior. I heard you mention this before. Actually, I'm not 10 years his senior. I was a, Red is two years under me.

So if I'm not mistaken, I think Red got there in 87. Red got there in 87 or 88. How old is Red Grant? Look it up. Red ain't no Red. Red old. He just look young because he's red. Red Grant.

Two D's and a G-R-A-T. He doesn't? you can't google him yeah man nah Red Red's with me in Savannah State yeah

Red was a fullback I still can't believe Red was a fullback. I still can't believe Red was a fullback. He's so little. Old Red Grant. Red funny, man. Mm-hmm.

I think he was running for office in D.C. Yeah, they say Red 45. Red must have been smart. Because he was with me, yeah. Red was with me at Savannah State. Did he post a picture? Yeah.

I just took a picture with Red. As a matter of fact here Ash I'm going to send it to you hold on do I got that picture oh CJ sent it to me hold on I think it's too late to get up now but as a matter of fact I just took a picture with Red I sent it to you

yeah but Red was a I'm trying to think was Red a Red was I think Red might be lying in his bio Red is a damn 40 cent Yeah. No, but Red was good, man. Red was great.

Red was great. It's always good to go back. Because that was my first time seeing Red when I saw him at Cats thing. That was probably my first time seeing Red since I left Savannah State. I hadn't seen him since. Man, that's a long time. Because Red from D.C. Okay.

So, and Red didn't get back. Because I didn't get a chance to get back much. I mean, I think I went back to a couple of homecomings. Right. I was back in 2009. I was back in 2011. And that's really the only time. And then I came back

in last year when we had the they went to my album. First take went to Savannah State and then we went to Winston Salem. But I don't get a chance. I don't I don't I don't get back. OK, what's up, Roberta, Georgia? Kenny Walker's from Roberta.

Crawford County. Yeah, but there was some days. I mean, riding the bus, because we rode the bus everywhere, Ocho. Yeah, we rode the bus. We go to Tuskegee. We go to wherever we went, we rode the bus. We go to Tuskegee. We go to, you know, wherever we went, we rode the bus.

Fort Valley, we're going to Atlanta. Man, we stop at a convenience store. We stop. Hey, Morrison. You remember Morrison's? Morrison was like a. Morrison's like Eckers, right? No, Morrison is like Piccadilly.

Oh, no, no, Morrison is like Piccadilly. Oh, no. I don't know about that. Yeah, Morrison used to be... I think Piccadilly bought Morrison's, but they used to be a Southern thing. Anybody in the chat from the South remember Piccadilly? I mean, Morrison's.

Yeah, I know about Piccadilly. I know about Piccadilly a lot. Yeah, but we used to go... We used to stop at Piccadilly. That's where we... We had like a $6, $7 limit. So you can get a meat, you get a meat, a veggie, stuff like that, a drink for like $6.

And, you know, I was the only one allowed to get, I had to get dessert. I said, Coach, I need to get dessert, Coach. But that was the day, though. I wouldn't trade that experience, Ocho. I wouldn't trade that for anything. And I think that for anything and I think that's why the football I mean sports being with sports and being around the guys and being on the bus ride being on the planes right man that's when you learn so much about your teammates yeah uh you know talking in the room like training camp because like I said club shea shea started in training camp we rolling

dice they playing video games. We playing cards. You know, guys, you know, smoking cigars, guys drinking beer. Hey, see, that's being read. That's being read. Uh, uh, uh, Saturday. That damn read. That's what Mark Curry was

back there. Mark Curry says, uh, man, how the hell you, how the hell you play with him? Yo, little ass. I said, nah, read, read. Cause people ask me, cause a Curran says, man, how the hell you play with him? Yo, little ass. I said, nah, Red, Red. Because people ask me, because a lot of times, man, you know Red Grant. I say, yeah, we play ball together. Man, he said that. Are you for...

I'm going to lie. Yeah, he played on the team. Yeah, Red was the fullback. Derrick Stingley Jr. Pick one. Al Green, James Stingley Jr. Pick one. Al Green, James Brown. James Brown. Al Green.

James. Okay. Let me teach his own. I like Al. James is phenomenal, but Al Green. I can't remember James. I mean. Can't remember James.

James started. What do you think Prince and them learned out there? What do you think? How them Prince be moving? Yeah, what do you think? And Chris Brown and Usher. Yeah. What do you think Prince and them learned out of that? What do you think how them Prince be moving? And Chris Brown and Usher What do you think they learned that from? Yeah James Brown Love and happiness

This is a man's world But it wouldn't be nothing But don't get me You know what? I ain't gonna sing i don't want no copyright infringement uh please thank you all three winners have been dm make sure you guys check your dm so all the winners of the three ocho cup mugs nah nah Nah, nah. Have been deal. I need my mug, man. Thank you. Thank you guys for playing along.

We greatly, greatly appreciate that. We should have put that to the thing. Do you guys believe T.O. and Ocho play in the nfl right now at the age of 46 and 50 i mean well we we know we know i can play right now that ain't no question and anybody in the chat anybody can play bad no i can play you know i can play i can play right now don't tell me what i can't do i know what i can do i believe in me and the chat better believe in me if the chat don't believe in me, that lets me know y'all are the enemy. If you don't

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We put it up there. So I i'm gonna take my time reading this you see it hey somebody just said the nfl has passed him by you know what i'm gonna pass your ass by too let me just say that in the chat i saw i saw i see everything y'all see all right yeah how about the n NFL has passed me by? Don't play with me. Please make sure you hit that like button. Guys, we had 20,000 in the chat tonight. We had 22,000.

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Hell to 80 points. They lose 106 to 80. They get beat by 26. New York behind Jalen Brunson's 43. They win a close game over the Pacers, 121 to 117. What's the results of the chat? 45% says yes. 55% says no.

Those 45%, y'all are delusional you know what that 45% I love y'all I love y'all and you are the reason why I'm still going today

yeah Ocho didn't run a 4.5 at 22 Ocho don't run no 4. Ocho didn't run a 4.5 at 22. Ocho ain't running no 4.5 at no 46. I could cry the fact that y'all believe in me still. And you can see my eyes tearing up. It means a lot.

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