Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Tyreek Hill TRADE RUMORS + Jerry Jones excited over Joe Milton

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to: Jerry Jones saying he has to “pinch myself” that they were able to get QB Joe Milton, Tyreek Hill's future in Miami, concern for Caleb Williams and much more! 0:00 - Jerry Jones excited over Joe Milton 15:48 - Caleb Williams concern? 18:31 - Anthony Richardson taking the big leap? 40:07 - Best Friends 4 Ever 49:42 - You Got Mail! 52:30 - Q & Ayyyyyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports Network. Jerry Jones says he has to pinch myself that we were able to get quarterback Joe Milton on their team. I really have to pinch myself that we got him. At the last game, he ended up there, starting for the New England, I'm just excited we had a chance to get him. And he hasn't disappointed. He's actually, we're more than just more and more encouraged by what we're seeing. Jerry's comment preceded the quarterback's preseason debut with Dallas, which didn't go too well.

Milton completed 19 of 29 passes, 143 yards, one touchdown and an interception to go along with a 68.6 pass rating and 22 Russian yards. Hey, was it that bad? I mean, based on the numbers you just told me, it didn't. seem like normally normally you got a starting quarterback that you're playing 60 million dollars how many times have you ever heard somebody hype a guy that you can only play one at a given time hype up another guy that you got on your roster this year for certain is that normal i mean what does anything jerry do is it normal

based on all the crazy things that he said no so i mean we we can take what he said with a grain of salt you know you talk about my talk about cd now you talk about joe milton and how he looked and and we're lucky i got to pitch myself again and listen every jerry says some of the things that continue everything is hyperbole with jerry jerry saying all the right things to continue to keep us dallas cowboys in the airways that's all i just look i i mean milton he does have a trimit an arm he has a cannon for an arm um but i don't know how much you think you're going to see him this year you better hope you don't see joe mill you better hope that stay healthy you better hope because then you're going to be able to tell i mean that got two

years left this one in one more year okay he gets hurts again lord please don't let that man get hurt again knock on wood but But you need that in order for you to get to where you ultimately want to be, Jerry, the word you really want to be, which is NFC championship game Super Bowl, that got to be healthy. You ain't getting there. No other way. Did you hear what you just said? Yes.

If that's what Jerry really won't. Had Jerry shown you that's what he really wants? No. But I'm just, I'm taking the part of myself now. That's what I really want. Okay. Okay. I got you.

I like it too. Because that's the only chance you got. I mean, who's equipped? I mean, let's be all the way 1,000 or two. Who's really equipped if they lose their starting quarterback can still say, you know what? They can still get to where they want that. But that's impossible.

That's impossible because everyone has a number two for a reason. You lose your number one. Hell, throw you goddamn playbook out the window. because the number one can do things look i understand because the number one can do things the number two just can't do that's the point of him actually being the number one there's always a drop off yeah you think josh allen go down the number two can come in and do exactly what josh allen do no if lamar goes down you think the number two on the broad ball absolutely not because most of these quarterbacks are one-on-one yeah so

Dak that needs to be healthy now yeah he's got Nicked over the last couple of years um but we know this they're better when he's in the lineup now they don't try to they try to pull this thing out with uh who was the quarterback what the quarterback name that everybody loves so much with the red hair the backup the deck Cooper Rush Oh Cooper Rush. I love Cooper Rush. They need to let that go and stick with Cooper Rush. Really? Yeah, please. I say, are y'all, are y'all serious with it? I say, are y'all serious with this? Yeah. Man, look at the office look. I said, okay. I said, the offseason is going to tell you everything you need to know about Cooper Rush.

Cooper Rush was a free agent with no tag, no nothing. he went back to Dallas. Now, if everybody thought he was what they said at that position? Listen, they don't let things go that they value. If it's as good as you think it is, it wouldn't be available. It wouldn't be available. Hey, Derek, Jerry said, he had to pinch himself. This can't be true.

But I got a chance to get Joe, Milton? If he said, hey, I can't believe we got Lamar Jackson. I can't believe we got Patrick Mahomes. I had to pinch myself. You know what he should have been saying? I can't believe we got Derek Henry. I can't believe he was available. That's what you should have been saying. Yeah. He could have said that. That man live in Dallas. And you even call him? Man, Jerry don't know what he's doing, man. Well, but let me stop. He said no one else can run that team better than he can. I mean,

I he once said 500 people can coach that team. Oh, I think they're probably about 25 people. Every team's most untouchable

asset, is, here it is, Ocho. You see the list right there. Whoa, whoa, hold on. Asking that to me. Now, you only got one good eye. I can't see that. She already texted you.

Okay, okay, okay. Oh, that is right. Oh, but Ash on point. Okay, now we're talking. Now we're talking. Okay. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yes.

Yes. Ooh, that's a good one. I'm trying to think where I would yes man they got the Eagles got every offensive lineman

I ain't even get to them yet let me see is that O line is that O line or D line that's a good one the Rams most untouched by I said

to Sean McVey the Dolphins got Tyreek Hill they got Tyreek of course of course that's why I don't know that's why the conversation

and just the conversation of being brought up is ridiculous. Despite the examples you gave me with Moss and T.O., yes, but still, we talk about one of the best in the game still to this day. The mere fact that they got Fred Warner, over a $50-plus million quarterback, tells you what you need to know. You talk about Fred Warner. We ain't just, let me ask you a question. If Fred Warner was on Baltimore, would he be?

If Fred Warner was on Kansas City, Fred Warner's on Buffalo. If Fred Warner was on Cincinnati, is he their most untouchable asset? If he's on, if he's on, if he's on, uh, Philly, if he's on Green Bay, that's my point. How you, how you get 50 plus million and you're not the most valuable commodity on said team. Timing. Timing and there were no other options. Timing and there were no other options.

Shanahan, who gives us our best chance to win? He's not Lamar Jackson. He's not Josh Allen. He's not Joe Burrow. But he fits the system that we run, very, very well. I would have thought, I thought, what you call it? I thought it would have been Christian McCaffrey

if you're not going to say, oh, oh, what's calling? McCaffrey has hurt every three days, huh? I mean, no disrespect. You got a point. You got a point. You got a point. Touche. Tush. Hey, they got CD Lamb for the Cowboys. That's your team for the Broncos.

Okay, and your point? You said that like surprise. get the surprise. He said C.D. Lamb, C.D. Lamb, like he's their best player. He better than Micah? Unfold your arms. I don't know why you got your arms folded. I do. I walk into that trap.

You got me. Listen, wait a minute. Hey, wait a minute. Now, that's a conversation to be had. Well, let's have a conversation. Hey, chat. Talk to me. Who's the better player?

Is it Michael Parsons or is it C.D. Lam, because C.D. Lam is top five in his position. Michael Parsons is also top five in his position. But who's more valuable? That's a great question. And how do you determine the factor and who's more

valuable to that franchise? When both are top five at their position. CD plays a dependent position. You can just line Michael up and just go. Ain't nobody got to get him the ball. Ain't nobody got to snatch. Ain't nobody got to do nothing. He'd just go beat the guy.

Ooh, that's a good. That's a good one right there. That is a good one. I don't see a whole lot. I don't see a whole lot of surprises. The Jets with Salis Garner, I'm not surprised. Malik neighbors, okay, the Saints' first round pick. Drake May, Justin Jetta.

Oh, whoa, whoa, you went by that real, would you went by that too fast now? Which one? The first round pick was? no they got to keep it Ben there had the first round pick this year did who is the same first round pick who is that first round pick

did I miss something yeah what what yeah what yeah I don't what position he play who was it uh who was it huh yeah for uh offensive tackle

they don't they don't have a a whole lot ocho they got oliva they got shahid uh they got cam but cams in year 15 tomorrow yeah Kamara damn I'm surprised they got Pinae soo they got Penae soo for the absolutely well he the what about Jerry golf what about what about Gibbs

a runnerback what about Armin Rae Peney Seul Aiden Hutchison Penae Sule okay T.J. No surprise there. See how the Bucks is Tristanworth.

Oh, Trishamworth is a real deal. He's the real deal. And I think if, honestly, when you think about the Bucks, Tristanworth is great as he is, I would have went Mike Evans. Is there most untradable? Untouchable asset? I would have picked Mike in.

Oh, no. Over 26-year-old. How is Tristan word? Twenty-six? I thought we talked about most valuable. No, untouchable. Look here, I like Ashton Genty. He's 26.

And he's already in the running for best office left tackle. now being Big Trent Now when Big Trent healthy I ain't take you taking Gen T over Max Crosby Well we don't we No not right now

So how did they put him already Just because he was he was pick six I guess I thought he did it Uh huh Damn Damn they took Marvin Harrison Jr. over Conler. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not, well, you can, that's tough.

That's tough. Most of the time you would think the quarterback, quarterback number one would be the most valuable, un-touchable asset. Because he ain't just, I mean, like I said, he was a rookie of the year, he's been a pro-bow player, he's taken to the playoffs.

So he ain't just some arbitrary quarterback. Eagle's three-time pro-bow guard, Landon Dickerson, was carted off the practice field today with a leg injury. unable to put any weight on it. That's not good. That's not good, especially not being able to put weight.

I'm hoping maybe, hoping, if you can't put weight, I don't want to think the worst. Let's say I'm hoping a high ankle sprain. Damn. Yeah. But them liam, they heal quick. Abdul Carter only played six snaps, Ocho, during the team's preseason open against.

bills but he made them count he generated three quarterback pressures on his three pass rushes he also held his own against deon dalkins in a couple of one-on-one matchups micha had high praise for abdul carter they asked me if abdul could be another great i told them he could be the best hey listen i saw those six plays too and every move was completely different than each one every move what a boy he got a toolbox on him boy he got a toolbox on him boy he got a two on it and then he pop out on film he's moving fat man i knew he was nice obviously he wore the 11 for a reason he asked to wear that 56 for a reason very promising very very promising based on what i saw and again it's only six snaps but them six was nice inside rib hands he he's

bendy, twitchy, have that gumba-gumby-like flexibility. The Derek Thomas's, the Vaughn Miller's, T.J. Wads, those guys that, you know, like, bro, how low to the ground can you get been running that circle? But that's a bare high parade. He told him he could be the best one. I'm Jake Hofer, and this is Back 40, a limited series show on Wired. to hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode, I'll be asking eight wide-tail hunting pros, a focused,

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the game. Let's take a listen to what T had to say, Ocho. Caleb's process, as we talked about quarterback processes,

Caleb, Caleb's process, playing that quarterback position has to improve, fast, and pretty fast, in my opinion.

On a consistent basis, Caleb was not able to recognize where he was in danger. he wasn't feeling pressure. He wasn't feeling blitzes. He wasn't seeing blitzes and threats pre-snap.

Anthony Weaver, the Dolphins defensive coordinator, was able to send guys from all different spots on the field. And, man, a lot of those got home. A lot of those would have been sacks. You got a point, Ocho? I mean, in a sense, he does. In a sense, he does. Obviously, Caleb, rookie year last year.

So some of the things that he wasn't able to recognize right away, I mean, there's a reason why. Because being a rookie, what do you want to do in game as a defensive coordinator? You want to confuse him. What's the best way to confuse him with movement and blitzes? Different looks. Things that he's not used to seeing. You know, I mean, it becomes very difficult. Disguising things and make them think it's one thing and have the snap of the ball, well, where the hell he come from?

But as time goes on And he gets used to seeing some of the things And being able to process things And pre-snap, being able to know What's coming before it even happens Okay, he bluffing he coming down But he's really not doing that Based on Down and distance

And based on what I've seen on film I'm gonna be I already know what's coming. Yeah, right here Tom Brady and Peyton Manning Beat you up here They knew everything you were getting ready to do It didn't matter what you do Blitzing coming down

you know, disguising. It didn't matter. It didn't matter because they already pre-plan and understanding what you're going to do based on down the distance where they were on the field. They've seen that look before. You know what I saw him? Yep. He down in the box. You know, I know they're going to rotate this way at the snap of the ball, so I know exactly where I'm going. Yep. But it takes time to get to that point. So I understand what T is saying. But listen, that's what you do. That's what you do to a rookie to throw him off his throw him off his pivot. You're confusing.

Shoot, I mean, I shoot, man. I was playing quarterback, well, I'm telling you. Blue 80. Blue 80. I don't got to just put my foot up, man. Unk, go in motion. No. Time out.

Our quarterback don't know what the hell he's doing. I'll call it time. I'll call it time about, time out, time out, time out, time out. Help. I hope to get you the ball, man. Run that corner around. Run that corner around. I'll often to get you the ball, man.

Ocho, Anthony Richardson having the best cap ever, says coach captain, Quentin Nelson. Anthony is having the best camp ever. His energy going into year three, maturity, accuracy, spreading the ball around. Daniel Jones will start against Green Bay. but Richardson will see extended action and get the bulk of the work in the Colt's second preseason game. After completing just 47% of his passes last season,

Richardson's priority this offseason was being more accurate. Wait, what happened to dislocate a finger, huh? They probably popped it back in place. Okay, so they popped it back in place, and I guarantee you when he does play, when he does get rest, I guarantee you these two, I bet they take.

together. I guarantee you because it's impossible to have a dislocated finger is going to have to be taped together because there's no way. No, it's all. It's good. He's good. You think so? Yeah.

No. Hey, that's exciting. That's exciting for him, especially with that coming out of camp, you know, him and proven on some of the things that he needed to work on that we all saw. That's very promising. That's very promising. And who started the first preseason game? So now Daniel Jones is starting this one, right?

Yes, but they said he's going to get a bulk with the extended action and get the bulk of the work. Damn, but that's, oh, I hope he has a good showing up. I hope he has a good showing. I really do. Now, Greenback, you get out for the quarterback now. Yes, they can. It's one way to slow that down.

Quick game. Get the ball in and out. Let your quarterback get in the rhythm. Let the quarterback get in the rhythm. You know you're playing against a team like Green Bay. I'd like to consider them undersized and very fast. Get the ball out. Get the ball out.

Allow your quarterback to get in the rhythm. You think Jonathan Taylor will play? No, probably not, huh? Nah. Yeah. Shit. Don't nobody play. Yeah, you're right.

I mean, if either one of these guys, if Anthony Richards had already proved himself, he wouldn't be playing either. Or he'd play one series. What I need to look at? Now, Andy, like, Andy old school, Andy going to get the reps in. But I think, Ocho, I could be wrong.

But I think this year, we are seeing more starters play than normal. Hey, I wonder, do you think, did we start that? In Cincinnati, do you think we started that? The fact that we need the play because we start so goddamn slow? Because it's funny that we haven't seen starters playing for a very long time in the preseason, huh? Until, well, hell, listen, if Jamar Chase's playing, if Joe Burrow planned, if T. Higgins is playing, well, what the hell we're doing? And their team is much better than us offensively. Shit, we need to get our ass out there, too.

Well, you know, look, if you're starting, you're starting skill guys going, you're starting O-Line going. That's the way how that work. You're not putting Joe Burrow out there behind the backups. No. That ain't happening. Exactly. So that's why you're like, hey, man, how long are you going? And I got until the second.

I was like, okay, well, I got it to the second, too. Because long as you out there, I'm going to be out there. Because I definitely don't want to come out and they, hey, sharp. Because my mind go to a whole different place once I come out of the game. In preseason, you know what I'm saying? You don't come. You know, you know you're not coming out. You know, you might get a blow or something in the regular season game.

But in the preseason game, all right, sharp, you down. Once you say sharp down, let me go ahead and take these pads off for y'all change your mind because y'all pull some quick. Y'all try to pull some quick issue on me. I come up out of them bads quick. And, and guess what, Ocho, get my sneakers. What, what if? Take my, cut my tape off.

What did they tell you to get back in? All right. With sneakers? Uh-uh. They already know. I was like, hey, I get confirmation. Y'all sure. We're done?

Yeah, yeah, we're done. Hey, 84. Yeah, you can. Okay, okay. You're making a show. Yeah, yeah. Man, because I told you go to a different place, man. Hey, you done?

Man, I start taking it on my tape. No, no, one's, ones, one. Hold on, Coach. Let me go, let me go find you somebody. Hey, you didn't get in there. Hey, that's funny. Hell no. The popular restaurant chain, Houston,

has rolled out stricter summer dress code, citing concerns over customers, increasingly casual attire. A notice shared by the restaurants as patrons to please respect our summer attire standards, outlining specific clothing items that are no longer acceptable. For men, the updated policy bans, hats, hoodies, sleevely shirts, gym attire, t-shirts with large graphics such as team logos or concert designs. Footwear like plastic rubber or foam slides and flip-flops are also prohibitive.

Women are asked to avoid overly revealing clothing, lingerie, swimwear, large graphic teas, the same restriction on casual footwear apply. The policy has sparked discussion online with supporting the move as a way to maintain the restaurant's upscale atmosphere, while others feel it limits personal style. Yeah, they ain't lying. I get the first hand. Hold on, firsthand, which part? Which part? Are you for it or are you against it? Oh, I wasn't for it, but, but I had a situation where they got, they, they took one of the coats off the ladies that were actually worked there.

Can you put this on? No. No, I didn't put it on. I was dressed. I was dressed. I was dressed rather dabble there. I think I've been to Houston maybe once. I really, I don't frequent restaurants. Well, they have, they have like Houston's. They have a South Beverly Grill. They have R&D. Kitchen. So they have subsidy, Hillstones.

So they have, it might not be known as Houston's, but they have, it's kind of like the similar meeting. So if you've been to L.A., South Beverly Grill, is really Houston. So what type of, what type of restaurants are these? These are places you go in the, evening right I mean no they open up at 11 you know you go sit

to the bar they got I love the spinach dip they know when I come out like the spinach dip I'll normally get the burger or I get the Dings crispy chicken sandwich but you know they I used to love it when they had they used to have a chicken sandwich called the Biltmore they no longer have that they used to have the

crispy the chicken tenders I used to love that they don't have that no more now they have the cheese I think, I don't know if they still have the cheese toast, chat, I know y'all know, Atlanta. I know y'all know if they still have the cheese toast, but they used to have the cheese toast because every time I would come back in town, Oak and I would always go there and we get the cheese toast. But so, yeah, I get it, Ocho, Ocho, because sometimes these women, they become, come on now, Ocho. Oh, so they're changing the dress code based on what people are coming in and they're wearing,

looking inappropriate, inappropriate. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, they're coming in there with slides on, flip-flops. You know, come on. Understandable, understandable. Yes. They want you to come in and they want to cater to a certain crowd. They don't want that crowd to remain a certain level of, I don't want to say professionalism, but a certain level of cost.

Yeah. Be presentable, you know, but some people, you have women, they go dress, they go to these restaurants, and they're trying to kids. So how do you catch? You catch by revealing. You reveal men, men, we have visual creatures. We see first. Then you want to get to know. That's the name of the game.

That's the game in general that's played. So I understand good thing on you, Houston's. Good thing. I don't freak with your restaurant often, but that's good for you. I do. Yeah. Well, you know, listen, for the men, for the men, we go dressed appropriately. We go dress appropriately, you know.

Put on some nice slacks, you know, some little loophos, you know, nice. shirt and button up oh yeah man sometimes man they be coming there with tank top man they say no hat they say no hats bro when they say no hat that means no hats hey they listen they don't look too much now it's it's a five-star restaurant it's usually the five-star restaurant no it ain't no five-star restaurant oh cho but people don't want to come there and see your butt hanging out people don't want to see people don't want to see your pegs or your traps your armpits i mean it's hard to have my crap now so But understandable, understandable.

Yeah, I look, I get it. I totally get it. Damn, I can't go no more. I guess I can't because, you know, I'm aphleisure down. Right, right. Yeah, I mean, I wonder if they got Houston's in Miami. Atlanta, they got it, but Arizona. Like I said, they call it something else in California.

They call it South Beverly Grill. They call it R&D Kitchen. They call it Hillstone. Hillstone is the parent company. Hmm. I'm trying to think they got them anywhere else. I don't know. You know, when I think about it too,

when I think of restaurants that have a dress code that extreme, like that's really not a place for me anyway. That's not a place of me. You know, I love, listen, I love wearing my baggy sweats, my baggy hoodies, a pair of sunglasses and flip-flops. Like I need to be able to go to establishments like that that accept that kind of attire. I just want to go in there.

I want to smoke a cigar. I want to order. You know, so that's the, I like to go. I can chill. They got a patio. You know, I love my Twin Peaks. I love my Bahama Breeze. You know, I love my Cuban spots here.

I love ball and chain. Just simple stuff. Over and up, I got to take you. I got to take it to the Jamaican spot. I got to take it to the Jamaican spot in Winwood by the name of Duke of Newt. You would love, you would love that. You know, I just. They got some good jerk.

They got some good jerk chicken. What? Oh, my goodness. It's a little spicy, though. You like hot food? Can you like spicy food? No, I don't. Hey, I tell him to make sure no spices, allow him to get that jerching and pasta.

Man, they got everything, all type of drinks. It's nice. So I like restaurants like that where I can be myself, dress myself, and just relax, have a good time. All that dress code and putting on nice stuff. I ain't got time for that. Oh, Joe, you ain't got to be in no three-piece. you ain't got to be no, you know. You know, listen, I like, listen, I like, I, I like to put that shit on.

Every blue boom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're not going to tell me in order to enjoy the food at your establishment that I'm coming to, I got to be dressed at a T and dressed at a nine. Like, come on. No, it's not really like that, but it's about the others too. You know, a lot of times we go places we just think about. ourselves and we're not thinking about the others that's also there and you know

everybody you know why you might have an outstanding young lady a company you you know everybody doesn't want to see her right right right so I get it I totally get it and you know and I'm I'm cool with it you know I've been places that you know I didn't know at the time and it's like well we don't allow okay okay I haven't to argue I even to go back and forth with you that's your call right right right right I haven't argued back and forth with you. You know, you say that's what, you know, you don't allow that. Okay, I'm cool with it.

I'll find someplace else to eat. I won't ever, I don't never cause no scene. No, no, no. It ain't, it ain't any type of part to me. The food I ate, you know, but that's why I can always go to old reliable chops. Call them. They're going to have, you know, hey, going to have what I want on them, what I need, you know, my guy goes, hey.

you know, they're going to have a plate, a dry plate, no sauce on the plate. I want nothing on that. I just want my steak on a dry plate. They're going to bring it to. Hey, they know me. It ain't nothing like going to a restaurant that you frequent, you know, and I, I know, and they know what you like. And, you know, I don't understand people that are foodies, people that are foodies that continue to go to restaurants and try different things would make me so upset to go to a restaurant I've never been to before because I'm a foodie and try something. and it be disappointing.

That has to be one of the worst feelings in the world. To go somewhere and you try something that looks good on the menu and it's not up the par. So then what do you do? You order something else? Do you send it back? Like I'm not one that likes to send food back. Well, like you said, Ocho, I frequent pretty much the same restaurants

so they kind of know when they see me that a cranberry gingerbreadment sharp, burger, meat and bun, medium. fries yeah that's me so they kind of they kind of like what i go like i kind of go pretty much go to the same places so they kind of pretty much know what i won't uh mr sharp you know chef said that you know he knew you was coming and they have the kobe eight all the way to the 16 ounces would you like you know he said yeah let me get that eight let me get that eight hours medium so they're familiar with me because i kind of go to the i'm like you hojo know I like knowing now you know sometimes you know hey somebody want to go to a

different place I'm cool with that too I try because if worth come to worse most places got a burger and it's hard to mess up a burger it's really hard to mess up a burger it is if you just a medium meat and bun and don't bring it out there with no lettuce tomato onions and ketchup and man don't I just told you meat and bun that's what I want I mean listen I mean like

and those nice five star rest and mars are cool especially they're time for all that especially down here

in Miami you know they got they got fish sexy and TKS and Chris Ruth

and Barbaugh STK you mean huh STK that's what I just said there I don't

I talk about five no that is what you say but I'm just saying stuff like that I mean it's cool

oh yeah yeah okay I thought I thought that's what you meant, but I was like, is there a different type of restaurant with those same initials just misplaced? I think that's what I said. Poppy steak, like that.

Like, at times I have to frequent those when I go on dates with the missus. It's really not something that I like or enjoy, but to appease her, you know, and wanting to put clothes on and get dressed and look nice, but I always get the same thing everywhere. They're going to have

salmon, they're going to have steak. They're going to have mad potatoes, they're going to have a green. They're going have broccoli or they're going to have spinach. One or the other. cream spinach. So I just go, I go to these nine places, but I never change what I eat because I know, listen, I know if I can get salmon, I know if I get steak, medium well, boom, butterfly. I'm going to be all right. I'm going to be all right. What kind of thing you get, you got to get it butterfly? Little eight ounce, let eight ounce. I don't do nothing, I don't do nothing outside of eight hours. Are you getting it, are you getting it cook, are you

getting it medium well, medium well, medium well, butterfly, butterfly down the middle, split that thing open. Oh, Joe, just get it. Just get it medium. Medium will. Meeting well. That medium is the business. I ain't the type of guy. I used to work with a guy named P.K. Pat Kerrwood.

Hey, he says, we go out to eat and we go to all the steakhouses. So we go to Ben Benson. We go to Sparks. We go to Kings. We go to all the steakhouses. He says, bring me my steak. A good vet could have saved him. Whoa.

And I'm good. I said we don't think about meeting. I don't want to cut mistake on and I got blood flowing like you want he wanted a cool pink a cool center not no warm

cool oh no absolutely not absolutely not meeting well you ever been to poppy steak you've been to poppy steak? I have not I did a

I need to get down to Miami, also so we can go out to the poppy. Listen, what? I'm, the presentation, the aesthetics. When you order the Tomahawk steak. Yeah, man, I ain't paying no thousand off of those. No, no, no, you're good, we good, we good. You ain't got to pay for it.

You ain't got to pay for it. See, when I go to poppy steak, I don't frequent it often. I don't frequent it often. But when I do, everything free. It's on the house. It's on the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're good. You good.

You good. I got you. Let me try to see if I get me a flight. They experience in itself, the aesthetics, the presentation, service, the hospitality, now, now that I put on the suit because I know what I'm getting. I go there maybe once a year. Maybe once a year, that's it, because it's too much. Yeah.

It's too much. Like, you know, oh, my goodness. Yeah. Just think about it. Oh, my goodness, man. I don't get nice. But I like, but I look, I've been going to Houston since I moved to Atlanta in 1994. One of the first restaurants I went to, oh, one that was on Lennox Road,

which was really close to the house. They closed that one down. There was one in Dunwoody that they closed down also. So now they just have the one on Peachtree and the one over there are 41, Northside, Northside Park, Northside Drive. But I don't have no problem with it. I mean, look, because, you know, sometimes you just want to keep you want to keep the clientele high end you know i ain't say you've got to

have a three-piece suit and everybody make a hundred thousand or five hundred thousand but you know when you start letting certain things in you know certain types of dress coat yeah it things change it's always us um it's it's it's unfortunate that restaurants have to change their dress code to keep a certain type of individual out you know and they don't spend money just like everybody else. They can never spend money just like everybody else, and I hate when it comes to that, but hey, it is what it is.

Oh, so Bahama Breeze closing down. The Bahamah Breeze is still open right down on Pine Boulevard. They ain't closed down yet. Now, I heard they're closing some stores. I'm hoping they're not closing the one right here on Pines. They're closing all Bahama Breezes. Oh, you serious?

Capital A-L-L. Wait a minute. Now, when you say, oh, is there a... Now, you're the spelling, B, chap, so... Yeah, now, when, is there a certain date? Is there a date that be closed by this date, and then no more? When you take your...

Will you take your color self there and the door's locked? I'm just saying, you just said it. I'm just saying, do you see somewhere with a date saying, okay, this is our last day? When the official, when is the official? Oh, man. Oh, that's...

sucks, man. You find a new spot. Yeah, I mean, but listen, you got to think. When I go to Bahamah Breeze, I get the jerching and pasta. I love it when I get a side of str... Is that a place that you're going to take me? No, no, no, that's Bahamah Bree. That one's going to take it to Ducanoo.

Now, that's the original Jamaican restaurant. I can get jerked chicken pasta there too, you know? But they make it spicy now. They make them real spicy. I get my sweet plan there, but then you can sit outside on the patio and you can smoke your cigar. kick your feet up, relax, you know, and just chill. Yeah, like this.

Well, they left the highest performing restaurant open, so that might be the one that you'd be going to. But they're trying to find a buyer. Well, how much they're looking for? How much they want? Don't start me to lie. Okay. I'm Jake Hofer, and this is Back 40,

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You're going to find this very, very interesting. A recent survey reveals that 91% of people are no longer friends with someone they once call their best friend. The main reasons are life changes like personal growth, moving to a new place, shifts in work or studies, making it harder to maintain the same bond. experts emphasize that drifting apart doesn't imply anything negative if often a natural result of evolving priorities many still cherish the memories even if emotional if the emotional closeness fades that's a good thing too huh that's that's a good thing it's not just friendships it's not just friendships relationships are like this as well because over time there's always growth there's always growth on both parts part but sometimes when you do

grow. But if we don't go together, we'll grow apart. And then the funny thing about it is when it comes to growth over time, listen, the honeymoon phase is beautiful. Year two is beautiful. Year three, some of the interests, some of the things you like, you tend to change as time goes on. And most of the time as you grow and you evolve, as you get older and things change, most of the time you grow is this way, matter what. Or sometimes you have to lose a sense of self depending on how much. much you love the individual where sacrifice comes into play on. I'm going to sacrifice. You know what?

I might like this, but I'm going to sacrifice because I don't want to lose you. Right. And first of all, did I only like these things to begin with because of you? Because a lot of times, look, sometimes,

you'll go places and you do things because that's what she likes. But this is what I tell people. Now, if that's not sustainable, if that's not something you want to, you're going to continue to do, it's going to cause a problem. It just is because she's going to say you change or you're going to say she's changed. It's not always the guy. Sometimes it's the ladies that will do things just to appease the guy. When in actuality, that's not what you want to do.

And most of the time, you know who's that fault though, uncle? You think about it? You know who's that fault? Most of the time, most of the time it's us, uncle, when we meet somebody new. Right. And when we meet somebody new, well, we go head over hills. So we go above our means and we set a precedent and the funny thing about it, when you set that precedent, depending on who you are, depending on your revenue and your financial status,

you go praise in the beginning and she's expecting, well, hell, if he's doing it now, I'm thinking I can just imagine once he gets to know me and you know we get locked, we get riddened a lot, listen, you real a man and when you real amend is a certain level of comfort that comes along when time sets in and what he did to get you it normally doesn't stay like that for a very long time you know it doesn't that's that's life in general so we kind of set ourselves up in the beginning because we do all this extra stuff trying to do you're in and then once you get once you catch what you got you rarely continue to do the things you did to get it rarely what you do to get and what you do to keep are entirely two different things so that's you know

that's kind of how it has to play out it's that's and that's what makes dating that's what makes relationships because you change the person that you meet the very first time is not the person you're going to be six months a year a year and a half two years three years from now that's not the same person. You grow, you change, you evolve. Also, expectations evolve. Expectations change. I met you. I really didn't have a whole lot of expectations. Hey, I'm just having a good time. We're going to go out to eat. We'll talk. I'm going to learn a little about him. She's going to, I'm going to learn a little bit about her. X, Y, and C. Wait a minute. Hold on. First of all, when you meet people, whether it be women, whether it be men, when you meet people,

the first thing you do is you put your best foot forward. Never truly your real self. It's your representative. It has to be your representative. Yeah, not about Asia. You're talking about Asia. That's it. Because the first thing women say, well, he's not the same person I met.

Well, duh, obviously. Because if he was actually in true self, the chance of getting you would have been out the goddamn window. Yeah. You know, so you always be someone's representative. Always. Every time. And depending on who the way,

woman is, the guy don't even have to lie. She'll lie to herself depending on who you are. Hey, that was a bar. That was a bar, too. Yeah, y'all write that down. Y'all write that down. Ooh, I'm feeling good tonight. So, yeah, it does.

I mean, because a lot of, Ocho, best friends in college, okay, y'all don't stand. Because you're in college, Ocho, you're in close proximity. You see them in the dorm, you see them in the student center. You might share the same classes. You're on the football team, blah, blah, blah, boom, boom. But then, okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, I went to the league, they finished

up school, I came back, hey, we picked right of where we left off, but then I left. And all of a sudden, I didn't come back as much. And now a year, not five years, not 10 years, not 15, 20, it's not the same. The same thing in high school. Okay, if we don't go to the same college, when I come, maybe my break is different than when your break is. Maybe they went to the military. Now all of a sudden, class reunion.

I didn't go to the five year. I went to the 10. I missed the 15, missed the 20, missed the 25. Now next year we got 40. So it's been 25, it's been 35,

30 years since I last saw some of these people. So my best friend when I was 18, there's a good chance that's not going to be my best friend when I'm 25, my best friend when I'm 30, 35, 40. We're different people. They're different people. Some of us got grants. Some of us got great grants.

I don't like that. I don't like everything. Everything you just saying, put things in the perspective, and reality sets in. So how? What's the answer? What's the answer? Now, you've got to be therapists for everybody in the chat that's listening right now

with relationships over time. People grow. No, it's not always a bad thing because sometimes, Ocho, you just move, you remember the movie life, how they started spanning, and everybody started getting great, and everybody started dying off. That's what happens, Ocho. You just move away. Yeah, but listen, how do we fix that?

What if you don't, what if you, what if you, what if it's not, Ocho, you, Ocho. But I'm tired of shit dripped in the part. I'm tired of things falling apart. What if the person is doing it right now, I want to grow, I want to grow here. Oh, you're talking about, oh, you're talking about with your friends or a partner? A partner. Listen, oh, oh, okay, okay, yeah, well, you got to work at it.

Ocho, Ocho. It's easier to grow apart than it is to grow together. because it's easy for you to say, F it's easier for her to say F it. People, like, our grandparents and our great-grandparents and how they worked at it, they worked to stay together because now people ain't working like that to stay together. Also, you have to understand. Our grandparents, obviously, they didn't have very many options.

There was really nowhere else you can go back then. It was kind of different. So now you got social media. people think they have all these wonderful options come on now and at the end of the day no it's not what you're thinking you're going to have you're going to have to do

if you don't do it for her you're going to have to do it for this when if you don't do it for him you're going to have to do it for that you're going to have to sacrifice something you do you do you're going to have to you know what fuck it I'm getting married tomorrow I ain't got time for this I'm going to go out how you laugh no listen I'm listen I'm I'm tired man, I'm tired. I can barely walk. It takes me five minutes to get up in the morning.

You hear me? It's like it's time. It's time. And I've been practicing. I've been practicing. So I'm going to the courthouse tomorrow. I'm going to the, I'm going to call. I ain't got time for this. I ain't got time. Yeah. I mean, you, bro, in the middle of the night, Ocho, sometimes I get my, I sit at the edge of the bed and have to think about it. Like, damn, do I really got to go to the bathroom? Right. Like sometimes, like, oh, man, just, It's just having a, having stability, having a, having a partner, being able to be vulnerable. It's such a beautiful, it's such a beautiful thing.

It's such a beautiful thing. But it's having and having the right person to be able to do that with is the hard part. That's the hard part, you know. Finding that individual, I can just let it all go, just be vulnerable. It's like having a therapist without having to pay the bill. you know it's a joy to be able to have those uncomfortable conversations with someone that's not going to judge you I'm not going to judge you

you know being able to communicate sometimes you have to be careful because the things you communicate with certain people they use it back against you that's why sometimes it's hard to be vulnerable man throw it up in your face oh cho the end of an area what happened

on September 30th, 2025, you've got mail will no longer be. Official AOL will officially retire its iconic dial-up service. So, dunk on unc ain't going to be the same.

Yeah. No more AOL. You've got mail. Something my phone has never said. That's dope. Oh, man. See, Ocho, think about it. Look at there.

See how time changes? Yeah. It took a long, it listened, it took a long time for it to even get to this point. But it'll change. That's the only thing.

That's the only thing that's constant is change. Hey, you got to give me one real quick, huh? Hey, chat. Why are you well watch again? Give, get a chat that gym won't have.

Get a chat at gym one more time Bad That same reason you wear what Because you want to tell people Oh what you got on You want to be to see that up You see what he got on? Look at the chat You think he's slick

He think he slick But I told him I keep telling you can't be slick To a can of oil And he thought me to tell him what time Yeah, what they do up Wait hold on I need to say that quote one more time

Why you wear a watch because I want people to know how valuable my time is because most people most people don't look at their watch to tell time come on now so if you're not so what is it

I mean obviously you know you have collectors that value watches and you know they amass an amazing collection but for the most part people look at their phone to get the time. That's why they fall. Hey, if they're working at a desk, they hit their phone, 903.

Okay. Very few times people look down at their wrist to tell the time. I love that quote, boy. I wear a watch so people know how value my time is, not the tell time. Ooh, that's a bar. That is a bar. Yep. All right, guys.

This is going to hit our final segment. No, no, no, no. Let's keep going. Let's keep going. Let's keep going. I'm feeling good. I took a five-hour nap today. I don't want to do Q&A.

Let's have another topic. Another topic. But we got Q and A. We got, we got Q and A. That's all we got time for tonight, don't you? Hey, chat. Now it's time for Q and A. Oh, this is good today.

I got to take another nap again. I took a five-hour nap. That's why I'm so energetic. cops sander said make sure while you're out there in miami uh you get your money yeah you know what now that i think about that that's why i'm coming out of my money you're talking about for what hey matter of fact you know it's so funny i put your i put your money up in the bag is right here your money right here in the bag i promise you can i get it hold on watch so hold on hold on Oh, Lord, I'm mercy.

What are you saying? I told you, listen, I put it up. I put your, I put your money up just, just for you. I put your money up just for you, I promise you. right there I shall appreciate that can I get that I got it just for you

and listen I'm then spin it then spin it matter of fact I missed a few child support payment just so I can pay you a 5,900 I should appreciate that man

this is the joy of having mothers having kids for mothers that understand the importance of me on you 5900 they say you know what Chad don't worry about child support this month

you save it and give it done. I got the best thing. I got, man, listen, I'm going to tell you, God is good. You hear me? God is good because those I have kids from, my goodness, but it was dropped down from the heavens above. Well, hopefully you dropped down that 5,900. I did, I did, because I got the 5,900 because of them.

That's why I got it left over because of them. So you need to thank them. When I pay you, you need to thank them. I sure will. Unculture J said, Ocho built like a calf muscle. I don't, well, built like a calf muscle. I'm not sure if you ever seen me. I'm built like a Greek God.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure if you've ever saw me in person, but I'm built like a Greek God. I'm chiseled, okay? I look like artwork. I don't know what you're talking about. Andrew Carr said W. Edgar Allen Ocho, Ocho Stinko, the true goat. That's right.

that's right and listen i didn't even give y'all a poetry tonight i didn't even give you a love poem but you're going to say that's word for the other day yeah yeah that's me fans nj said uh-order burger and fries lakers and five curtis thomas said can you see tyreek running it back in kansas city with him worthy as two deep threats would have been fun to watch too i don't know man i don't know look they got to play mcd Duffy, they just get, you know, they got Mahomes on a big deal. They got a, uh, uh, uh, the deep, what's the big, uh, C.J. Chris Jones.

They just gave Kallophtas his money. You know, uh, you know, McDuffie going to want the bag. Rishie Rice is going to be eligible for a contract. So, uh, going to make it make it probably not going to happen. Lany Ray said, hey, fellas, who do you think will be the next bingo and next Bronco? to join the Hall of Fame. I'm trying to think next. Vaughn Miller probably be the next Bronco.

Bingo, Ocho. Oh, probably Jamar, whenever he's done. Yeah, it's definitely going to be bond. Hey, matter of fact, you know what? I'm just on top of Please tell me you ever heard An artist by the name of October London You ever heard of him on?

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Our kind of music Relax and chill Yeah yeah Well that's right of my alley That's what I'm looking for Elijah Moses said the fact that Shuck was a college teammate of Justin Herbert and Herbert is entering his sixth season

and Shuck is entering his rookie season, Shuck ain't the answer. Like Ocho said, we got to go to the legacy in number 16 when he's available. That's crazy. So I'm assuming Shuck stayed back longer to, what, prove himself? Transfer. You know, them COVID years, man, guys be.

Guys getting seven, eight years. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're professional students. Mike Mike said, Uncle Ocho can't wait for Sanders to overcome all the hate and disadvantages and make Browns champions. Ocho challenged Jerry to a match in Madden. Heck, we can have him, Cam help him. Winner owns the Cowboys. Love the pod.

Keep it up. It would be fun. Mr. Burrell Battle said there's a post on end. Instagram going around. Shadour Sanders has made the NFL 250 million in Jersey sale and he's received 14 million in commission due to the prime equity clause in his

contract. I don't know anything about that either. So for me, I'm glad you brought that up, but I don't even feel comfortable because, you know, people take what everything said on the internet and just take it and run with it. It's the gospel. It's the truth. I don't know

anything about that. Kimber Norwood Jr. said, my question is, is one has to go, Ray Lewis, Rod Wilson, Tony Gonzalez, Travis Kelsey. Hell, I ain't played with Tony or Travis, so I don't care which one of y'all keep them. I'm keeping Ray and Ron.

I was only there for two years with Woody and Shug. I knew Ray, I knew Shug. excuse me, I knew Woody before. I knew Ray for the simple fact we had gone to Pro Bowls before. So I had known Rod for a number of years, seen him at the Pro Bowl, knew his wife, Nikki. No, sorry, Kemper.

Tony and Trav, I don't even care about that. They were both great tight ends. It's very rare you find two tight ends on one team, you know, that's like that, oh, Joe. I mean, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's the equivalent of Brett, of Aaron Rogers' father and Brett Barr.

That's what you got in this situation right here. Prime Card Chavez said, Uncle Ocho, they told me my bused out AP, perfect timing, got them bag ass up on my neck. I stay shining. It's never hot around my jury,

change the climate. Yeah. Everybody speaking spoken word, I see him. I see him. I see you see me with this good chain. Oh, that's your door so? Oh.

Yeah. See, I don't, to show you how much I look. What that is? What that is? What that is? What are you got? Oh, yeah.

Is that Van Clef? Van Clef? Van Clef. My girl, my girl with Van Cleave. This right here, this comes from the kiosk in the middle of the mall. It's one number $20. It's one number $20.

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