Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Unc and Ocho react to McCaffrey having a bounce back season

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Kyle Juszczyk saying that Christian McCaffrey going to have a bounce back season, Mark Andrews talks about his lost fumble last year in... the playoffs, and Coach Prime wants to change the uniforms in college football and much more! 1:14:55 Texans give Higgins full guaranteed contract1:16:55 McCaffrey bounce back season1:20:50 Najee Harris suffers superficial eye injury1:30:10 Vikings lb falls victim to phone scam1:34:15 Mark Andrews and the Ravens1:37:40 Trevor Lawrence has high praise for Travis Hunter1:40:00 Coach Prime said something should change with the uniforms1:43:45 Q&Ayyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:16 I would say more games a little bit more tacking on the guys that play the game. If there is a way to get 18 games in the schedule, I think you have to have a way to have more by weeks that spread it out. You've seen the amount of injuries that kind of piled up out there at the end of the season. You want to have the best players playing in the biggest game. So if there's a way to get 18 games, I'm not a big fan of it, but if there's a way, I think you've got to add some by weeks in there and give guys and give, give time for guys body.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Oh Joe, he's coming. Yeah. Let me tell you how it's gonna come. Go ahead. You can either agree to it or we will lock your ass out like we did 2011. And we can go longer without pay than you can. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:56 So we're gonna lock you out. And as a stipulation of us coming back, you're going to have to agree to 18. It's really that simple. Just like they locked them out in 2011. Yeah, the bigger piece of the pie. Yes, sir. Yeah. Well, listen, we know what else is going to happen is you already know once once it's it's talked about, they're going to do it. Yeah, with the with the NFL PA
Starting point is 00:02:17 and the CB. I mean, the CBA whatever CBA is is going to come about. They're going to have to have to buy weeks. I think that's something that the owners and it used to have two by weeks. Oh Joe. It used to be two by weeks. Oh, well, they they're going to have they're going to have they're going to have to have it because there's two taxing on the players bodies and obviously what Patten Holmes is talking about. Hey, they're going to be playing football on St. Patrick's
Starting point is 00:02:38 Day. Yeah. Hey, but listen. Oh Joe. Think about it now. now. You already the second week in February. So if you add a bye week now, now you got the Super Bowl. Oh Joe, you in March. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what? The offseason going to be shorter and shorter. If you order shorter, but obviously we this is money. This is all about money. It's about the bottom line. We know the NFL is about they're about their money and maximizing it the best way they can and add
Starting point is 00:03:06 an 18 game is the best way to do that. Oh Joe you want 18? You want 18 games? Guarantee it. I want everything guaranteed. And I won't lie I won't in a five if I if I if I first of all, if I make it five years, I won't
Starting point is 00:03:24 lifetime health benefits. Ooh. And I want my salary guaranteed. Now there's stories that came out that the collusion case in the junk, and they got verbatim that Roger Goodell was talking, saying, man, y'all gotta keep these prices down because these things getting astronomical.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Come back on some of that guaranteed money. I still don't understand how he said there was collusion, there was, but they didn't show another, I don't know. We'll talk about that at a later date time when I can read up a little bit more on it. I just saw, I was just skimming through and saw that. But don't show it's coming. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:01 But you see how quick they went from 17 to 18? Think about how long it took him to go from 14 It tells them so to go from 12 to 14 from 14 to 16 and from 16 to 17 It's gonna take them less time to go from set from 16 to 18 Then it did to go from there are 12 to 14 to 14 to 16 Well, you got it You have thought you also have to understand not only the salary cap keep going up But the money gotta keep coming from somewhere they got it. You have to you also have to understand not only the salary cap keep going up But the money got to keep coming from somewhere. They end up. Yes
Starting point is 00:04:28 That's the only way you can do it. That's it. They got to be able to recoup They got to be able to make more the only way to make more and understanding the bottom line between not only Sponsors the NFL and everyone in general. You got to add more games. That's the way to make And let me tell you, Ocho, when this thing come back up for bid, don't be surprised if the game that you used to see it on Fox, they're on Netflix, they're on Amazon, because they got way, they're sitting on hoards of money.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Oh yeah. And you see both are dipping their toe. Amazon has already gone in. They said look we want that Thursday night package. Absolutely. And now the NFL say we're gonna we're gonna flex the Thursday night package for you. We'll flex it for you and plus they got the uh what they got the black the Black Friday game. Yeah. Netflix. You saw Netflix got the Christmas game. Don't be surprised if the
Starting point is 00:05:24 NFC package, the AFC package, or the Sunday night package, Right. Is it one of these streaming services? Yeah. Now don't be surprised because I'm telling you what they got. They got unlimited resources. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Yeah. And I'm not the one that said it. I'm not the one that said it, but I was in a meeting. I was in a meeting. I can say this, you know, and I talked to brother Jeff Bezos, and he's going to be the one, he's going to be the one that's gonna make the moves and pull the strings to have most of the games
Starting point is 00:05:54 on his platform. I'm just telling you what even happens. Yeah, I know. Because Netflix, hey, like I said, look, I understand it it and it's been traditions because CBS has had a package. Everybody's had the package, gave it up and got it back. Fox became a network because they got football.
Starting point is 00:06:14 CBS gave it up, NBC gave it up, they got it back. Then NBC say, you know, we can't do without it. We gotta get back into it. But I'm telling you what's gonna happen. I'm telling you what's gonna happen. Yeah. And you already saw what Amazon played for the NBA. If they're playing that for the NBA,
Starting point is 00:06:35 what the hell would they play for the NFL? Yeah. Yeah. Owners getting the piece of that now. Huh? You don't think that... Everybody getting a check cut for 300 million. 300 plus and I ain't sold no ticket.
Starting point is 00:06:54 I ain't sold no concession. I ain't sold no parking. I haven't sold local TV. Yeah. And I haven't sold local advertising. Huh? And then guess what? They have it so far. The Olympics. the They just out there for a week. Taylor Swift was out there for a week. Man. Hey, Stan, Stan, it's Stan, right? Stan making a killing.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Stan Cronkite. Stan making a killing over there. Huh? Yeah, that's what the whole thing. You got to own, you out to own the building. Because when you own the building now, hey, didn't they have national championship games out there? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Hey, the Georgia Dome. Don't they have, what they have there? SEC Championship. They have the they have uh uh uh uh the college football playoffs. One of the games be there. The national championship game is there. Beyonce coming. As a matter of fact, I talked to my daughter. She might be coming this week. What? Beyonce coming where? Atlanta. Tell my daddy, you know anybody? No, I don't know anybody I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I
Starting point is 00:08:07 don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I
Starting point is 00:08:23 don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I pull some strings for you. Know your daddy can't pull no strings. The only strings your daddy can pull is, tighten your shoes up. They're the only strings I got for you. But nah, but it's happening, Nocho, it's gonna happen. I think I was reading in 2029, they can opt out. We gonna opt out. So if I'm the NFL, if I'm the players right now, oh, I'm saving my money. Cause I know, especially if I'm a young player,
Starting point is 00:08:44 or I'm saving my, Nocho, cause I know they're gonna I'm a young player or I'm saving my own, don't you? Cause I know they're going to put the squeeze on me. Yeah. They even, even though they put a squeeze, this is the problem. This is the problem with the player. It's so many of them. It's so many of them. And everybody ain't going to,
Starting point is 00:08:55 cause see they look at it like you, like you think, I know what you're about to say. Talk to me. Cause everybody ain't going to be Patrick Mahomes and make Joe Burrow them type money. Bingo. It's the guys that say, man, please. I got me three three or four years I can't afford to miss one of these years. Exactly, exactly and listen and when you think about it the way they spend during the season
Starting point is 00:09:14 sometimes during the off season that long break without those checks coming. Oh yeah. You need to be in season for them checks to bar both. September, October, November, December, January is basically when you get your money and then you do the playoff money. So for for five months that you play, you make your money after that you're on your own. You better save it. But Ocho, this is what I love most about the MLB and the NBA. Yeah. Sometimes a man must plant a tree with the realization he'll never enjoy the shade that
Starting point is 00:09:46 it produces. Oh, don't don't don't don't don't do that. Oh, right. Go on and write that one down. Sometimes a man must plant a tree with the realization he'll never enjoy the shade in which it produces. Come on now. Sometimes a man must do something when he's not going to benefit from it.
Starting point is 00:10:04 You see, Kurt Flood never benefited from free agency. A lot of these NBA players didn't benefit from free agency, but they were willing to sacrifice for the greater good of the game. Just think about it. Think about what your grandmother and my grandmother and great and so forth and so on, what they sacrificed and never got an opportunity to enjoy some of the rewards that came along from their sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Hell, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, not me. See how you think? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look at all the, look at all, they locked it down. MLB the players say, you know what?
Starting point is 00:10:50 Y'all want to do it. Y'all, y'all, y'all playing around with us. Shut it down. Yeah. Ain't no postseason, ain't no world series, ain't nothing. Nothing. Until we get exactly what we want.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And you know what's funny? I don't think the players understand how much power they have. The players don't understand how much power they have if they was the band together and say we ain't playing. We're not playing and we gonna okay we gonna we want to go deadlock. Okay we want to go cold. Okay bet let's play the game. But it would take for everybody to be on board. Yes. And I guarantee they get what they want. Oh, y'all want guaranteed contracts?
Starting point is 00:11:30 Say you ain't playing and watch what happen. But the realization of everybody buying in and understanding for the greater good, and not just you, but everybody that gonna come after you, somebody gonna have to take a stand. No, they won't do that, Ocho. No, no. No, that's difficult.
Starting point is 00:11:55 That's difficult. That many players, that many players, you know, the top, the top boys can pull it off. The top dudes can definitely pull it off, but not not not everybody else. They they they rely on that. Oh Joe. What happened? Like I said, just think of all those people that were fighting for freedoms, that they didn't get a chance to enjoy.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Think about all the people that was fighting for privileges that they didn't get a chance to enjoy. If all they thought about, well hell, I ain't gonna benefit from it. Right. I ain't gonna be able to make millions and billions. I'm not gonna be able to own a business. I'm not gonna be able to ride wherever I want to.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I'm not gonna be able to go into any restaurant that I want to. I'm not gonna be able to go into any restaurant that I want to. Just imagine. I think some of the greatest mistakes that one can make is to think everybody thinks like you. There's no way there's no reason for the NFL players not to have guaranteed contracts. No, not at all. They got it in soccer, they got it in basketball, they got it in baseball.
Starting point is 00:13:20 And granted, they play, they play a lot of games, they do. But they weren't giving them that until they struck. Yeah. Until they say, we gonna shut it down. But see the difference is, and the players, like I said, I ain't gonna call nobody out. Y'all can go back and look in 1987, the NFL is struck twice.
Starting point is 00:13:39 It struck in 1980. Oh, that's the part about being, I had a birthday. My birthday, I was my birthday I didn't get no cake. You ain't even sent me no birth birthday. Happy birthday uncle nut. But anyway I did tell you you forgot. I called you Yeah, you did you ain't said no money though, huh? Uh, huh. You heard I got I Hey, I got I got I got your money right here
Starting point is 00:14:05 What good is but we'll get that in a minute. Hold on, hold on. Oh, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Hold on, go ahead, go ahead. The best part, the best part of being my age, I turned 57. God damn. About three and a half weeks ago. Damn.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Is that I remember in 1982 when the players struck. And I remember in 1987 when the players struck. And I ain't gonna call nobody out. But y'all go back and look at the players that crossed that picket line Some of your favorite players mm-hmm If the best players will cross the picket line and go back and play What chance to the fourth round of the fifth round of what chance do they have? Oh Joe the guys that's not making the hundred back then a hundred thousand three hundred thousand dollars for a thousand dollars with a lot of money. That's big money boy.
Starting point is 00:14:48 So if the guy that's making four hundred five hundred seven hundred thousand, yeah, if he'll cross the picket line, what chance the guy that's making sixty thousand what he gonna do what he what chance he got right? Oh, Joe, as a matter of fact, 2011 you was in the lockout when they chained the doors and let y'all go in there. Hold on, when it was a lockout, right? Yeah. But when there's a lockout, that means contractually you can do whatever you want to do because
Starting point is 00:15:15 there is no contract. I was doing all type of wild shit. I was the wrong one to say we in the lockout. You were the wrong one to turn loose, huh? Listen, I was riding bulls. I was doing, listen, I was doing everything I had no business doing. I was having fun. But see, it was different because you have to understand, I was working year round. I wasn't tripping.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I'm doing reality shows. I'm on TV. I'm doing all type of stuff. So actually, it was a seven, eight year period is I was working year round. I'm on TV, I'm doing all type of stuff. So actually, it was a seven, eight year period, is I was working year round. I'm playing football, football season over, hell, I'm doing TV. So my situation was a little different, but I just, man, if them boys band together, boy, it would change the dynamic of the league in general. But it's so many players But it's so many players.
Starting point is 00:16:05 It's so many players. All you got to do is look at what Roger Goodell, what he wanted in his contract negotiations. He didn't mention nothing about working less hours. Right. He wanted lifetime health benefit. He said I'll take less. I want my money. X amount of dollars.
Starting point is 00:16:27 He want private, fly private. He'll lifetime health benefits. Cause that's the quickest way to walk, unless you got hundreds of millions of dollars, like some of these guys on show, they're going to be exempt. Right. Guy making 500, gonna make 500, 600 million dollars, he'll be exempt. Right. Guy making 500 gonna make 500 600 million
Starting point is 00:16:46 dollars. He'll be exempt. But so everybody ain't making that kind of money. Some of these guys gonna need Medicaid. Yeah. I don't like to be the bearer of bad dudes. I don't like to be the harbinger. But somebody gonna get gonna need Medicare that play professional sports. Yes, sir. It's just the sad reality of it. Yeah. I hate that. I wish I wish guys I wish I wish some guys do and
Starting point is 00:17:22 I get it. I really do. Saw the bigger picture. I did. Damn. Speaking of standing your ground, the Texans gave Jayden Higgins the first fully guaranteed second round rookie deal ever. Now almost every second round pick of 32 is still unsigned. It is actually refusing to sign rookie contracts will never be the same.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Second round, Trey Harris officially has a holdout to report the charges camp. Shamar Stewart was still holding out and since it will rookies hold out trying to get guaranteed contracts? Because they're trying, Cincinnati is trying to set a precedent one way. Right. Somebody else trying to set a precedent, the rookies trying to set a precedent, they say they moving forward all rookie contracts about to be guaranteed. I like it. Yeah, I do too. I do too. Listen, a stand like that is something that they have to do.
Starting point is 00:18:24 If you want things to change, it got to start with somebody. It has to start with somebody. Obviously, the NFL and the teams, they do it contractually to set a precedent. Doesn't mean you have to take it. They just going to be at a standstill. Who's going to fold first? That's what it comes down to. The funny thing about it is, if you don't want to play with great understanding, regardless
Starting point is 00:18:46 of where you're drafted, they will replace you too. You got to- Yeah, for sure. Hey, they will replace you. So you got to understand the game that you are playing. Does the damage, does this damage the reunion's reputation after the collusion story came out? And it came out because Pablo Torre was digging. Ain't no, because the union and the NFL,
Starting point is 00:19:17 they agreed to keep it hush-hush. Yeah. Well, it ain't hush hush no more. Hell no. And something gonna have to give. Something gotta give, Ocho. Something gotta give. Who gonna fold first? Kyle Yuscheck, the great
Starting point is 00:19:39 fullback from the San Francisco 49ers expecting a bounce back season for Christian McCaffrey, which would help the 49ers bounce back from a 6-11 season. This is what you check saying. Christian is arguably the best player in the NFL. He was offensive player the year two years ago. He changes everything. He looks incredible. He looks so healthy. He looks so explosive. McCaffrey began last season on injury reserve, injured this season on injury reserve. When we first started the show, Ocho, what did that say? If you limp into the season, how you going out of the season on injury reserve. When we first started the show, Ocho, what that say? If you
Starting point is 00:20:05 limp into the season, how you going out the season, Ocho? You gonna limp out the season. He missed he missed eight games with a bilateral Achilles tendonitis. Ouch. And then played only 167 snaps before a posterior cruciate ligament ended his season. Ocho. Yeah. CMC have a bounce back season? Absolutely. It's possible. Absolutely. I saw he just welcome. He just welcomed the baby girl. Yeah. CMC have a bounce back season. Absolutely. It's possible. Absolutely. That's all he just welcome. He just welcome the baby girl. Yep. Congratulations. It is wife, Olivia. Yep. But he he definitely can. I mean, listen,
Starting point is 00:20:33 CMC is a special running back. He's a special running back. You can do it all. He can he can do it all and he changes the dynamic of that offense when he's available to play. He can run it. He can catch it out the backfield, and he makes everything easier for that offense. There's certain players at NFL, when you're on that offense, it makes the coordinator job easy, it makes the quarterback job easy because they can do so much. Most of the time when it comes to offering the coordinators and you call them plays, you have to call them in a way to hide certain weaknesses.
Starting point is 00:21:08 A player like McCaffrey. Your whole playbook is open. Opens up everything, huh? It opens up everything. There are very few players on each team like that. Every team doesn't have them, which makes offering the coordinating job that much more difficult. But when you have a player like that, it makes everything else easy because they're so good
Starting point is 00:21:28 at what they do. Yeah, he's special. He's special. The thing is, Ocho, he's not a naturally big man. And he plays probably the most physically demanding position, which is the running back position. And not the running back position. Yeah. And not a naturally big man.
Starting point is 00:21:47 He's not Saquon. He's not Derrick Henry. He's not Joe Mixon. He's not Josh Jacobs. Right. I mean, he probably going to 205. If that. That's me.
Starting point is 00:22:00 That's being generous. If that. And you're asking him to do 275 between 275 and 323 325 350 touches. Mm-hmm. Now, it'll be fine. But what happens when um, they hit him. He hit the dirt and then they fall on top of him. Yeah. So I think that, you know, you're gonna have to be judicious.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I mean, look, Ocho, we got a weapon. I want to use it. I mean, what am I saving it for? Right. I want to use it. Right. It like, you got a whip. Man, such as I got a bat.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Man, I heard, Ocho, man, why don't you bring the car? Man, I heard you got, Ocho, I heard you got that thing, man, let me see it. What good is having a nice car, Ocho, if you just go sit in the garage? Man, we got Christian McCaffrey. We got one of the most versatile running backs in all of football.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And we not gonna use it? Because of the potential that he might get hurt? No, we pay it for you. If you get hurt, we'll deal with it. But when you the highest paid running back at what night? Well, I think he's the second highest paid now behind Saquon, because I think Saquon's at 20 million a year.
Starting point is 00:23:17 And I think Christian's like at 19. I gotta give him touches. I gotta hand it to him. I gotta throw it to him. Whatever the case may be, I need the ball in his hands. Oh, yeah Absolutely charges running back naji harris suffered a superficial eye injury at the fireworks mishap at the fourth of july event last week according to his agent naji harris was present at the fourth of july event where Fireworks mishap resulted in an injury to several attendees.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Najee sustained a superficial eye injury during the incident but is fully expected to be ready for an upcoming NFL season. Ocho, you see? Yeah, hey, but I don't play by them fireworks, bro. Why you don't play, Ocho? I don't play by them fireworks. Listen, I don't play by them fireworks. When it comes to fireworks and the kids want fireworks lit, I allow someone else to light fireworks. I don't play by that. Listen, especially the eye area. But listen, I don't even got-
Starting point is 00:24:16 Man, what are they blowing for you? What about JPP? Have you not learned about JPP? Hey, you ain't got to tell me twice. Even before JPP's incident, I'm not even with fireworks. Just with understanding what happens if it goes off. What happens if it goes off?
Starting point is 00:24:31 I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't play. I give enough space between me and any fireworks display. A lot of space, just in case something might tip over. I'm able to move and react. I don't play that at all. And he had an eye incident.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I don't play that. Hey, anything that cannot be replaced, I don't be fooling around with that. My eye, all this right here, no, I can't, you know, artificial, no eyes, my nose, my face. I already, I only got one good eye as it is. Yeah. you know, artificial, no eyes, my nose, my face, no. I already, I only got one good eye as it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I only got one good eye as it is. I am not losing nothing else. Yeah. Absolutely not. You like me, my thing ain't full far as Whitaker, but you know it head in that direction. Hey, my, this is, you know what? People probably would never believe me,
Starting point is 00:25:23 I'll never forget, 1993. I'm gonna tell a quick story real quick 1993 I woke up with inflammation in my eye similar to swimming under salt water if anybody's been in the ocean you look under salt water you know you can't see nothing woke up one morning my grandma thought it was pink eye we woke up she said you're not going to school whatever a few days go by nothing. Nothing happens. The pink eye the swelling all went away, but I still couldn't see out my right eye grandma take me to the doctor or some type of inflammation of the inside. I'm not sure what it was blah blah
Starting point is 00:25:56 blah. I go have surgery had surgery to clear up whatever it was. So at that point remember how big he smalls eye he want his eye. Yeah, yeah. You had one eye that looked straight ahead and the other on the slide to be scanning. So my eye was like that. The majority through high school,
Starting point is 00:26:13 obviously where it was very, very lazy, very lazy. So whatever happened, I don't remember what the procedure was, but I could never see out of my right eye since 1993. So, at some point, doing certain, I forgot, not drills, but finding ways to strengthen even though I couldn't see out of it, I still look like I'm looking at you now.
Starting point is 00:26:36 It wasn't as bad as it used to be. Sometimes if I lock in long enough on an object or looking at my phone, my eye would just drift on its own. Yeah, it's hard to notice. And people say, why you always wear glasses? Why? So I always have glasses on most of the time because my eye would
Starting point is 00:26:52 drift off sometime. And the funny thing about it is I played my entire career with one eye. I can only see my left eye. And the funny thing I could talk about it now, if you ever watch me catch the ball in the NFL,
Starting point is 00:27:05 every catch you see, you'll always notice I wait till the ball gets about right here. Yeah, you wait till the ball get up on you. I wait, because I can't see it. Most of the time, if you have both eyes, you can catch it from a, I mean, you can see it. Yeah, you look at the ball, you see it, you try to pick it up as soon as you possibly can.
Starting point is 00:27:22 You try to get it out here. Bingo. I couldn't see the ball, until it got at least right here and then I would just have to be able to every catch it. Now, I rarely caught up my body but I had to wait until it got close to me in order to catch it, to see it in sight.
Starting point is 00:27:36 And that's the story. I really never, you know, I never really shared that story but in this eye over here, I'm like 99, maybe 120 or 90 20 something like that but in my left eye yeah I'm you mean 2020 vision is based on 2020 no 2020 in my left eye but right eye like 90 I mean it's bad on like the big the biggest letters on the on the eye chart yeah if you cover if you cover my left eye I can't even see I can't even see the biggest letters on the eye chart it's's bad. It's real bad.
Starting point is 00:28:07 All right. Well, I'll make sure I put that thing to your head on the right side so you won't see what I got. You don't give me my money. Oh, I got your money. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hey, I got, I got your money, right? I got your money. You got it? Yeah, I got, listen, I got 10, 20, 30, 40. No, that ain't enough.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Hold on. I got 50,000 for you right here. Yeah, I got you, baby. I got you. Yeah, I got you baby, I got you. Listen, whatever you need, I'll send you a little extra. Matter of fact, how long has been? How long has been? You know how long. Tell me how long has been, it's been what?
Starting point is 00:28:54 We bet at the beginning of the season. We did? Yes. Okay, listen, how much inches I owe you? Man, just shoot your boy a cool 5,,900, $6,000 make it even. Okay, okay. I got it. Matter of fact, you know what? I'm gonna tell you that's how much I love you. Whatever you pay for the dog, I'm gonna pay for the dog too.
Starting point is 00:29:13 So I'm gonna shoot, I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna see you $6,000 and whatever you pay for the dog, I'm gonna shoot that on top of it. You know what? I will put this in the mail tomorrow. Hey, hey, man, man me my shit, man. We done been on vacation three weeks. You keep it, keep it all awards, man. I forgot all about that.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Hey, send me that, man. Send me that. Hey, the web is supposed to be here next week. Hold on, matter of fact, you know, I'ma shoot you a cool 10,000. I'm gonna shoot you a cool 10,000. I'm gonna shoot you a cool to that man. Send my stuff man. Come on that I got it like that.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I'm just gonna hold on to this to the web is come so I can see that all all at once. Okay. Okay. See you a good dude. I don't care what they say about you boy. You good in my book. You good. Hey, what my Funko at a semi of my Funko man. Oh, hey, send me my Funko.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So my Funko sent my webby. Hey, what's that award? What's the triangle? What's the triangle? What was that called? Creative excellence. Oh, yeah, that's me.
Starting point is 00:30:22 That's me. I like the word excellence because the white when I go when I go use the bathroom. I piss excellence. So that that award will go good in here. Man, hey semi-ma Jersey, man. Come on, man. Hello.
Starting point is 00:30:35 There's your oh you with the beach. I went to Beach High. That's me. I was number two. How you got that? Come on. Hey, um, what you doing with what we doing you come on? Hey, what you doing? What what we doing over there now?
Starting point is 00:30:48 Hey, Ash, Ash, you know my address. Ash and similar similar stuff. Now we send the other stuff to the old address. What old address? Well, I don't know. I don't live in a mode. Well, you'll get it to you. No, no, come on.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Don't do that. Don't do that. Now don't do that. You don't do that. Come on, man. Well, I hold on. I'm confused how you got my high school jerseys, both of them. Why did you end up with you?
Starting point is 00:31:14 I need that phone call. That's a one on one right there. But OK, I'm going to go. I'm going to send the phone call award for creative excellence and the two the two webbies. I tell you what, how about we do it. I got one for you.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Now listen, it's been a long time. I owe you money. I got money right here. You send me my stuff and I'm gonna send the money. Gotcha. Send me my stuff. So, hey, listen, as soon as it get here, I'm gonna send it right to you.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I promise you. I promise you. Hey, a good 50 right here, you gotta smell it. It smell good, look good too. Hey, they do. Hey, fresh too. Hey, these are new hunters too, these are new hunters. They new? Yeah, these new boy.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Oh my God, I forgot. I don't know how to let it slip my mind. I don't know if we have it slip my mind. I don't know if we have it. And what we talking about tonight, we talked about the casino and them having Uno, lo and behold, God damn it. Because Vegas- They're bringing Uno to go to casinos. And I'm going to tell you where you can find me. I'm going to tell you where you can find me.
Starting point is 00:32:18 You can find me in casino, playing Uno. I'm going to be a billionaire. I tell you that right now. I'm going to be a billionaire over playing Uno in a casino. I don't know what rules they gonna have. They gonna have different rules than what we play in the game. They can't gentrify Uno. One thing they not gonna do, they can't gentrify Uno.
Starting point is 00:32:35 They can't do that. Don't gentrify Uno. Because you can't put draw tools on each other. You can't put no drawfold. They got all kinds of rules, Ocho. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If you're gonna put Uno in there, let's have the original uno all that new stuff they got we ain't we ain't doing that We ain't doing that
Starting point is 00:32:53 Vikings linebacker Dallas Turner reportedly fell victim to a phone scam that cost him a staggering $240,000 he was allegedly targeted by a call opposing as a representative from JP Morgan Chase Who claimed that someone was attempting to impersonate him at a bank branch at a bank branch in Arizona? Yeah, the caller convinced Turner that to protect his funds He needed to urgently transfer his money to alternate business accounts believing his finances were at risk Turner visited two separate Chase banks and transferred Believe in his finances were at risk. Turner visited two separate Chase Banks and transferred 120,000 each of funds
Starting point is 00:33:27 were later discovered to have been funneled into fraudulent accounts. Turner didn't realize he had been duped until after speaking with family members who raised concerns about the legitimacy of the instructions. He then contacted law enforcement and an effort to recover the stolen funds.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Authorities have only managed to recover less than $2,500. Hey, Unc, hey, hey, listen, like stuff like that shouldn't work. Stuff like that shouldn't work. Stuff, a phone call, since when did the bank, Unc, stuff like that shouldn't work. For one, if Chase is calling you
Starting point is 00:34:03 about anything, suspecting when it comes to your money. I'm going to the bank. What nothing like that. What he did he went to the bank, but they convinced him that you need to get some money out of this and put it in here at the at the actual bank. So he went to two different banks and transferred a hundred and twenty thousand each and to the accounts that they told him say this will protect you. So he went to two different banks and transferred 120,000 each
Starting point is 00:34:25 into the accounts that they told him, say this will protect you. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking to the GM or the manager at that specific bank asking if anything with my accounts is in trouble. Yes. Are there any type of alerts, any type of security things that I should be worried about?
Starting point is 00:34:41 I'm sure they will check and show and let him know there is nothing going on here. Especially with any phone call. Ain't no bank calling you, letting you know. What are we talking about? How did we fall for that in 2025? I think we've all had our number. They call, this is the last call.
Starting point is 00:34:58 You need to pay your tolls. Or you need to do, man. Man, please. Don't know where I go got tolls. So I know it ain't got nothing to do Matt man, please don't know where I go got told. So I know he got my he got nothing to do with me. Oh, your credit card. I was like, no, they know me personally. They called me. I don't need you telling me something wrong.
Starting point is 00:35:14 My credit card man. Man, listen, there's certain things we shouldn't fall for. There's certain things. There's certain things we shouldn't fall for at our big age. That just doesn't make sense. It doesn't even it doesn't even make sense, you know? But hopefully young bull. I hope we can get somewhere back.
Starting point is 00:35:29 But it's hard, Ocho, you know, when money, man, that thing gone. Yeah. It's hard to get, you never gonna get fully what you lost. Right. You just hope you can get 40, 50, 60% on the dollar. Right, but the- Because you ain't finna get 100.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Think about this, when it comes to scams of this nature, it normally works on the elderly. It normally works on the elderly because they're not aware. They're not sure. Something like this of this magnitude shouldn't work on the young bull. It shouldn't work on the young bull. He should know better.
Starting point is 00:36:00 You got to be a little sharp. People hurt you about their money, man. Yeah, hey, they don't play. They don't play. Y'all need to be a little sharper. People hurt you about their money, man. Yeah. Hey, they don't play. They don't play. Y'all need to be, like I said. And he don't work too hard for that, too. Yes! He don't work too hard for that, man.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Come on, man. And the thing was, I'ma leave it right there. Because who's the break that he with? Who's with Chase Bank? Yeah. Oh, y'all are responsible for that. So if somebody's stealing out of there, y'all are responsible for it. Y'all gonna place that back. I ain't finna chase bank. Yeah. Oh, y'all responsible for that. So if somebody steal it out of that y'all responsible for y'all
Starting point is 00:36:27 gonna place that back. I ain't ready to do nothing. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. You know what? You know what? The funny thing I bank with chase. I bank with chasing just the thought of even believing any
Starting point is 00:36:36 phone call any text man. Like come on man. Banks don't even operate that way. They don't even operate that way. Oh, we know who but you got the wrong number man. If you don't get off my line. In the Ravens playoff loss to the Bills, Mark Andrews lost the fumble in the fourth quarter with the Ravens trailing 2419 and then with one minute and 33 seconds left, he
Starting point is 00:36:59 dropped a game time two point a two point pass from Lamar. Andrews talked about it Friday saying I've had to eat a lot of ish and who has I ever long it's been but I'm excited to go show who I am what I can be and what I can what I can be and what I can do to help this team with because I'm not done yet. Did the long break Ocho? Do you think the long break break helped Andrew's move on? Yeah, most definitely.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Or did it give him an opportunity to just sit with his thoughts? Because it's the way the season ended, I think it's going to linger a little bit longer, the way it ended. And for him being at fault, for him dropping the ball, obviously they were down. He fumbled early in the season, but they had an opportunity. He fumbled early in the season, but they had an opportunity. He fumbled early in the game, but they had an opportunity to tie the game and obviously maybe go to overtime
Starting point is 00:37:51 and see what happens from that point. And I think it hurts a little bit more and it lingers a little longer because you will view it as, oh, I lost the game for us. So now obviously he says he has to prove himself again. Well, we know what you can do. We know what you can do. We know what you can do.
Starting point is 00:38:06 We know you're gonna pro bowl. You've been a pro bowl. You're a pro. Yeah, absolutely. But it's it's those opportune times when it matters most. Can you make those plays? And I think the thing is Ocho the thing that we love most about sports because you have to have a short memory because guess what in basketball, the game might another game might happen that next night. Baseball, another game happen that next day. In football, a game is gonna happen that week.
Starting point is 00:38:30 So you have to forget about that. I can't be thinking about in this game, what happened last game because it's gonna mess me up in this game. But because, excuse me, that was the last game. And here we are, Ocho. February, March, April, May, June, July, August is not until he gets back out there. And he's playing meaningful football that he could possibly put that now.
Starting point is 00:39:02 That's never going to leave. No, that's never going to leave. It's never. Yeah. But that's that's the thing that I love about professional sports because you have to move on and you get an opportunity to move on very very fast but when it's the last game and then you have three months, four months and hey bro, don't worry about it. Hey, it's a ain't no one play. You know, hey bro, don't worry about it, hey, it's a, ain't no one play, you know, ain't no one play cost us the game. She is.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Okay. Yeah. I mean, listen, nobody will say it, obviously, but that play cost the game. I mean, listen, it sounds cute, you know, they always say it, oh, that's not why we lost the game. Yes, it is. Honestly. I mean, it is. Let always say it. Oh, that's not why we lost the game. Yes, it is. I mean, it is.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Let's let's be realistic. Yeah, no, your teammates will always say all the right stuff. They'll never say it to your face, you know, but it costs us a game and what's going to happen. He's going to bounce back this season. He's going to have a great regular season as he did last year. But when it matters most, you have to make those plays. You got you got to make those plays. You got to make those plays. That's what it comes down to, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:40:07 That's what you paid to make plays. He's one of the better played tight ends because they're used to him making those kind of plays in those type of situations. But if anybody can bounce back, Mark Andrews coming back. Trevor Lawrence had high praise for Travis Hunter this week. Travis has been great. Just his work ethic, how he comes in. He's been one of the hardest working guys we have. I think his commitment to learning the playbook and trying to learn the two systems.
Starting point is 00:40:34 It's a lot on a rookie. It's challenging to learn everything that he's done a nice job. We still have work to do and we're going to get a lot done in training camp to get us ready to play come September. I'm really excited for him and how he can help our team. Yeah I'm excited too. I am. I'm excited. I'm excited
Starting point is 00:40:57 for Duval. I'm excited for the fans in Jacksonville. I'm excited to see Travis Hunter. in Jacksonville. I'm excited to see Travis Hunter. I'm excited to see Brian Thomas Jr. Oh, they got some weapons now. Hey, listen, every game, they got eight home games. Every game should be sold out. Every game will be sold out simply for the excitement. I don't know what happened, Ocho. When I was, you know, they became a franchise in 95. Yeah. And I remember going down there and we played them in 99. And we played them, obviously, that I went to Baltimore and we played them, we were in the same division. So, Ocho, that place should have 60,000.
Starting point is 00:41:36 I'm talking about, they were loud. Yeah. Now I think they blacked it out up there. I'm like, come on, Jacksonville. But they were loaded. You know, they had Mark Brunel, they had Jimmy, they had Kenan. Kenny McCarty.
Starting point is 00:41:46 They had a- Fred Taylor. Fabulous Freddie Taylor. Tony Baseli. Yeah. They were loaded. Tony Brackens, they had Dion Figures. They had a nice squad.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Oh yeah. They had a really nice squad. Donovan Darius. Come on, come on. Yes. Oh yeah. Come on, Jazz, get on out there and support y'all team. Oh no, oh, they gonna be there. You ain Oh, no. Oh, they're going to be there. You got to
Starting point is 00:42:05 worry about that though. They go. They are going to be there. Listen, the offense is lights out the offense is lights out even before Travis Hunter got there. So the addition to Travis Hunter plus Brian Thomas Jr. Was one of the better receivers last year as a man. Man, they're going to be nice. They're going to be real nice. Now, if we can get Trevor Lawrence to play up to the expectation number one overall pick and and one of the highest
Starting point is 00:42:30 played players in NFL. Yeah, he has to fulfill his energy or two. Now, he'll be all right. Just a little consistency week in and week out. Coach prime said at the big 12 media day that something should change with the uniforms. Let's do something about the uniforms. We got guys in biker shorts. That makes me sick because I'm a football guy I played this game at a high level and I have so much respect for this game How can we allow guys to come out there and buy the shorts? No knee pads. No nothing literally pants up under their thigh That's not cool. I up under their thigh. That's not cool.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I think there should be a fine implemented for that stuff. And let's have more respect for the truth for this tremendous game. Do you believe college should adopt NFL rules for the universe? Absolutely not. There's enough, there's a listen, there's enough control as it is. Allow the players to be themselves. Prime is one of the few, probably the only one who made the mantra, you look good, you play good. But Time had all these players. Time had five pairs, hip pairs, B pairs, butt pairs. But listen, he had his own Pacific style. He did it his way. Allow the players to feel
Starting point is 00:43:41 good about themselves based on the way they style themselves today. Don't change that. Don't take that away from them. Don't take that away from them. Allow the players to do what they want, to dress how they want, especially on the field because it makes them feel good. If they feel good, if you look good, then you get the same return in their play. That's that's what Tim also said. He wanted to, you know, they adopt a lot of the rules that he's like, look, I need you to duck two feet. It take two feet to have a completion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:08 You know, hey, clock don't stop and all that on that first down stuff, keep it going. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Right, right, right, right. So he wants, because I think the thing is like, he like, these guys getting ready to go play today in the NFL, so let's go ahead, you know, Ocho, you remember in college used to kick off a T used to be able to kick a field goal or P a T off a T. And they're like, nah, guys were bombing out because they were
Starting point is 00:44:33 used to kick it off a T. And then all of a sudden you get to the NFL, you got to kick it off the ground. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. In high school. Yeah. I can't even see, you know, I was a kicker. We kicked off the tee, a little orange tee, yeah. In high school? Yeah. No, I'm talking about for P.A.T. and field goals. Do they still kick off a tee? Yeah, I kicked off the black tee.
Starting point is 00:44:54 A little black tee in high school. A little block, black tee, yeah. Coach Prime says, Coach Prime also wants a salary cap in college football. All you gotta do is look at college football playoff and you see what teams spent and you'll understand darn well while they're in the playoffs. Should there be a salary cap? Oh, I mean some some some some would agree. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I don't I don't like it. Allow these players, are they going to put a salary cap on the coaches? No, probably not, right? He's like, I don't think he has a problem with guys making, he's like, but you know, some of these freshmen class, they're going for 20 million, 30 million dollars. Well, hold on. Are they going to put a salary cap on the coaches when they go to other places? Nope. On what they can be paid? Right? Allow these players to get max value, whatever it is that they're valued at. Why put a salary cap on that? Now, I understand as a whole, where depending on the program that has more money to spend on players to make your team better. Well, I mean, like, no, I don't like the salary cap idea. Allow those players to make your team better? Well, I mean, like, I, no, I don't like, I don't like
Starting point is 00:46:05 the salary cap idea. Allow those players to make as much as possible because there was a time where they weren't making nothing. Yeah. Well, they were making something, but it wasn't. Yeah. Yeah. I know what you mean. Listen, hey, listen, I'm wishing we were right. I'm wishing we were right. All right, Ocho. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A. God damn, tonight was good, boy. Oh, this felt good tonight, boy.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I'm glad to be back, boy. Oh, look at here. Oh, let me pee-pee. Yes, chat. I am so glad to be back. The three weeks, I mean, like I said, the first week I went home, I got an opportunity to spend time with the kids and the grandkids. My son has a have a granddaughter now, Kennedy, and it was great to see her a little chunky self. It was great, but you know, I spent time with the fam and then I came
Starting point is 00:46:57 back up here and I've been, you know, doing what I do, getting ready for the season, getting my mind right to go through this grind all over again. I really look forward to it. Being able to talk to you guys and I was like, man, when you do something and you really appreciate doing it, you love what you do, when it's gone, man, you're like, damn, I showed Miss Ocho. Ocho, Dr. Frank L. Bellaman said, Hey fam, was there anything on your list that you didn't get accomplished while on vacation? Love y'all, glad you're back. Doc, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:47:31 I am glad to be back. Ocho mentioned earlier, he's excited to be back, extremely excited to be back. No, I got everything, just relax. I just wanted to get away. I didn't even shoot any episodes of, I think I shot one episode. I think I shot one episode, I think we shot one episode of Club Shae Shae.
Starting point is 00:47:47 One episode. Normally we go on vacation, I'm trying to shoot as many as I can. So we're behind schedule right now. We gotta make up. The next month though, we probably got, we probably got go get about 10 of them in the can.
Starting point is 00:48:00 But no, I didn't, there's nothing that I didn't do or I didn't get accomplished that I wanted to get accomplished. Ojo, you have, you're good old time. I saw you. Listen, I had a great time. What I haven't done yet, which I'm still gonna do,
Starting point is 00:48:18 I'm just, I'll probably be doing nightcap on vacation. You know, I take my annual trip with all the kids. I take my annual trip with all the kids. I take my annual trip with all the kids. So I'm taking the kids. I think we're going to Turks and Caicos. So it'll be all eight of us. I'm excited for that. I don't think you might not like the way we travel,
Starting point is 00:48:40 you know, on the way I'm gonna take them on this little trip, but we gonna have some fun. I want them to be able to experience what it's like to fly private, to not have to walk through the lines and not have to go through customs. So I'm excited for that. And that's pretty much it. No.
Starting point is 00:49:01 They've been on private. They don't need to be on private no more. Who? My kids. Y'all need to fly be private. Oh, so your kids been on private just before? Mm-hmm. Well see mine haven't had the opportunity to experience. I want French fry. I want French fry to be able to walk with the red carpet. Listen, I'm for the red carpet. You know, black car pull up. You know, y'all get out and you know, they pick you up. I want them to experience that and see what it's like.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Just one time, I'm gonna do it for them one time. We gonna have a good old time. Good deal. Laney Ray, hey Laney, welcome back. Hope you guys had a well-deserved vacay relaxed a bit. Now, if you could bring football season back faster, that would be great too. Unfortunately, Laney, we can't do that.
Starting point is 00:49:42 We wish we could, but we can't do that. But thank you guys for tuning in. Thank you for joining us. Charles Whitlock said, is Shakur Stevenson the closest thing to Floyd? No, Floyd is the closest thing to Floyd. Yeah. Now, I'm glad whoever that was said that. I'm glad whoever that was said that.
Starting point is 00:49:59 But Shakur Stevenson, what we need to understand, what you saw against Zepata was a boxing clinic. It was a boxing master class. Shakur Stevenson's defense is his offense. With a pressure fighter like Zapata, most fighters under that kind of pressure would have folded. If you watch Shakur Stevenson's body language throughout the entirety of the fight, you want to show the entire world that I can sit here and fight.
Starting point is 00:50:25 I can sit here and box. I can sit in the pocket, be defensively sound. Obviously, you're gonna get hit. He got hit a lot. Yeah, you're in a boxing match. Yeah, he got hit a lot, but it is boxing. You want to minimize those punches the best way you can. And he did a great job at it.
Starting point is 00:50:42 And what you saw last night, despite what you may think or feel about Shakur Stevenson it was a boxing master class based on what we saw he's the best defensive fighter in the game right now in the game right now and i don't see how you can hate on it after watching that i don't i don't see how you can go ahead go ahead don't you go ahead. Go ahead. Don't you? What will have to change depending on who the person is across from them. The Peter didn't have the power. He didn't have that kind of power. We had to be worried about
Starting point is 00:51:14 it. Now, if that's a tank, you're not sitting there like that. No, you're not sitting there because you got you got bricks in there. You got bricks in his hands. Yeah, you're not taking no pressure fire like the Peter though. Exactly. Exactly. But you have to in there. You got bricks in his hands. Yeah, you're not you're not sitting. But Tank ain't no pressure fighter like the Paternoi. Exactly, exactly. But you have to be cautious. You wouldn't be sitting on the ropes. It's just it's all about understanding your opponent and knowing what you can and can't get away with. But the thing is, if you go back and look at Floyd and you look at Floyd at 130, 135. What Floyd? 130, 135, 140, 147, 154. If you go back and look at Floyd,
Starting point is 00:51:48 Floyd had power. Oh, yeah. Early Floyd. Before Floyd messed his hands up. Go back and look at Floyd. Pretty boy Floyd. Not money Mayweather. Pretty boy Floyd at 130, 135 in that slugging. Don't look at what he did to Corrales.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Diego. That was a good fight. Look at Cotto. Ricky Hatton. Got it. Yeah. Teddy Bear. Bro. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. At least in the 90s, look at TD numbers. 1100, 1500, 1700, 2000. Back to back Super Bowls, League MVP, Super Bowl MVP, and then you go back and look at the next year, OG, Bird, Atlantis, Gary rushed for 1250. The one thing that what look, the one thing the Broncos received when they were, Mike Shanahan was there, oh, you blocking. You got to.
Starting point is 00:53:07 You blocking. That's why, and people thought, oh, it doesn't matter who you, because, you know, we put, you put Ruben Drones back there, he go get $1200. You put Mike Anderson, he's rookie of the year, he goes and get $1500. Clinton Porter comes in, he's rookie of the year, he's rushing for $1500.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Yeah, people thinking that it was. Nah, man. It was the scheme in which we had. I mean, you had to have a certain type of back. Bobby Turner, who's the uh running back coach of San Francisco. Wherever Shanahan is, you're going to find Bobby T.
Starting point is 00:53:38 He went with Mike to uh to he went with first of all, he went with Kube to Houston and then he went with Kube to Houston, and then he went with Mike to Washington. And then when Mike got let go, he went with Kyle to, Kyle went to Cleveland, then he ended up going to Atlanta, and he went with Kyle to Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:53:58 And when Kyle went to San Fran, he followed Kyle. But Bobby T is the best running back coach in football. That's all he wants to do. He don't want to be a head coach. He don't want to be an offensive coordinator. He just wants to be a head coach. So yeah, but I think we were. Ain't nobody better than us. Mr. McGee said, remember when Ocho tried to block Ray Lewis? I thought Ocho retired as the physical run blocker. After that, it went to mental run blocking with the trash talking. He did.
Starting point is 00:54:48 the Let us think again. I'm what it what is it what 5.8? No, he averaged like 90 over 90 like 97 yards a game. I think you're around. I think Barrett's too. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I don't know about the all-time leading rusher, but it's hard when you look at the guys that came behind him and look at the yardage that they got right. He's gonna be willing. He's gonna be well over 10,000 and he's not going to have to wait as long as he had to wait to get into the Hall of Fame. I know that for certain.
Starting point is 00:55:10 That Smith said Rogers with Andy Reed as a coach in that defense. I'm taking Aaron Pat has Tyreek and Kelsey Aaron had nowhere near that, but you also got to understand. Is he going to listen? See y'all just think it's about talent. You just think, look at Brady.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Brady was willing to be coached. Patrick Holmes is willing to be coached. Are we sure? Are you sure, Dab? Hold on, does he understand the receiver that hand-wrought his hand? No, he don't. Because Jordy Nelson wasn't a slouch. Boy, Greg Jennings wasn't no slouch. Greg Jennings wasn't a slouch. the Aaron Rodgers head? No, he of linemen that he had Jenkins, Bhatiyari, don't do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:10 So now, were you saying that when Andy Reed was in Philly or you saying this when Andy Reed is in Kansas City? Because I don't remember anybody saying, man, if Aaron Rodgers had Andy Reed when Andy Reed was in Philly, oh, but now you want to have Andy Reed when he's in Kansas City. Were you saying that when he was coaching uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh had Andy Reed. Andy Reed with Patrick Mahomes or Andy Reed in Philly. Which one? Or Andy Reed when he had Alex Smith. Which
Starting point is 00:56:51 Andy Reed you want him to have? It's funny. It's funny. Because nobody, nobody. You gotta realize, first of all, I remember when Andy Reid was in Green Bay with my brother. Know him well. Know his wife. Go to the provost sitting there to have a conversation with great people.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Nobody thought Andy Reid was a top coach when he was in Philly. Now stop it, people. Andy Reid was a top coach when he was in Philly. Now stop it, people. It's amazing what the right player could do, huh? He was so great. Jeffrey Lewis said, nah, we good. It's amazing what the right combination of players
Starting point is 00:57:40 and coach together can do. A la Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. Oh, hold on. Yeah, give Aaron Rodgers Bill Belichick, the Bill Belichick in Cleveland or the Bill Belichick in New England when he got Tom Brady? Cause he had Drew Bledsoe and he had Matt Jones.
Starting point is 00:58:03 So which one? So I just need to, a doubt, which Andy Reid did you want Aaron Rodgers to have? The one in Philly or the one in which he had Alex Smith? Oh, oh, oh, because guess what? Travis Kelsey was there with Alex Smith. Tyreek was there with Alex Smith. Tell me you heard them talking about like they talk about them when they had Patrick Holmes.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Listen, Patrick Holmes and Andi Reed is no different than Richard Gere and goddamn Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect match. Perfect match. It worked well together. Tyree McClinton of 6,220. Excuse me 6,200. Why does the NBA media try to diminish LeBron's legacy? For example, I watched someone say if Kawhi wins, it changes, if Kawhi wins again, it changes LeBron's legacy. But Jordan's legacy never changed.
Starting point is 00:59:11 When Yannis won MVP Defensive Player of the Year, a Kobe three-peat. Because, if I don't like somebody, I can find a million ways, if I don't like a Mojo, I can find a million ways. If I don't like a mocho, I can find a million ways to further try to discredit them. Always. Listen, depending on who you're talking about, the goalposts continuously move.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Yes. Depending on who you're talking about. Matter of fact, the greater the player, the greater the accomplishments, the more they try to move the goalposts to diminish what they've done. 13 times first team all NBA. He made, in year 22, he made second team All-MBA.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Could he have made first team? Sure. If he'd have made it over Donovan Mitchell, I don't think people have a heart attack, but hey, he did. Donovan made it. Congratulations, Don. Congratulations on getting married, too, on the engagement to Coco Jones. Congratulations, y'all.
Starting point is 01:00:01 But the man is a 13-time first team first team all NBA selection, most in NBA history. He's a 21 time all NBA selection, by far the most in NBA history. Four finals MVP, four regular season MVPs, led the league in assists, led the league in scoring. He's got more playoff wins, got more score, more playoff points. Scoring leader. That's still not enough. No. And you know what? You know why LeBron is the greatest? You know why he's the goat?
Starting point is 01:00:38 Because he gave me his 50K point ball. LeBron, chat, y'all see that? You know what this is worth? LeBron, I appreciate you, boy. I don't care what they say about you, boy. They will never be able to diminish your legacy because I have your 50,000 point ball. Brian S said, Unc, you look 37, not 57.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Appreciate that. Ocho, looks like you had a good vacay. Nightcap fan, we miss you had a good vacay. Nightcap fans, we miss you. We need our boy. Your voice is echoing in the homes around the world. Yes, I agree. We miss you guys too.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Ocho. Yo. We got the biggest trash talker up there. Ninety-one over 9,100 votes. 50-50. You got 50% of the votes, I got 50% of the votes. Somebody somebody lying. 50 50.
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