Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Unc and Ocho react to Terry McLaurin being frustrated about his contract!

Episode Date: June 8, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Terry McLaurin being very frustrated with the Washington Commanders about his contract talks, Rams safety not playing Madden anymore, and college sports changed radically Friday night after historic deal and much more!01:47 - Terry McLaurin04:00 - Rams safety done playing Madden08:00 - James Cook10:00 - Tom Brady wont throw shade at Mahomes during broadcasts18:17 - Cam Ward25:26 - Superbowl 59 had a major economic impact on New Orleans29:19 - College athletes to start receiving direct pay frm schools on july 132:45 - Most game tying shots39:17 - Q & Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Volume Coach Joe, scary Terry McLaurin is reportedly frustrated on a long-term deal. Yes, sir. According to Jordan Schultz, Terry McLaurin has made it clear to the team that he's frustrated with the lack of progress on a long-term deal. As I previously reported, McLaurin unexpectedly left voluntary workouts after initially attending, and it remains to be seen whether he'll report to mandatory mini camp. McLaurin is entering the final year of his contract

and talks have been minimal. Yeah, you see how they do you? You see how they do you? He does everything right. He does everything he's supposed to say. He's the captain. He's the perfect professional. You know what?

He is like Larry Fongero reincarnated. and I'm talking about his approach to the game saying all the right things Being a team leader, but you see what they see how they do you Yeah, you do everything the right way when it was time to repay you for doing everything the right way They played with you. Why because it's about business About it's always been about business. I think he's going to get what he deserves. He's going to get his deal done. They understand how important he is to and for that offense.

And if anything, I think Jayden Danes at some point steps in and interferes and says, let's get this job. Let's get this deal done. Same way Joe Burrow did with T Higgins, the same way Joe Burrow did with Jamar Chase. I'm not here to play no games. I need my number one target to be here Mm-hmm do what you need to do to get it done They do matter I hate I Hate you to do this guys that be professional do everything do all the right things play hard

Yeah, be leaders on and off the field. And when it come time to get y'all, y'all drag y'all feet. They don't matter. All that don't matter. All that don't matter, man. That's just for, cause when it come time to it, they gonna play you every time.

Yeah. My way, my way, I can fool. Just be yourself. Whatever, whatever that may be. Some people have to play the game. Some people just choose to be themselves. Because at the end of the day, they gonna play both us. No matter how you approach it.

Hopefully, scary Terry gets something done because he's been a model citizen and he's played extremely well for them. Ram safety, Cam Curl said he's done playing man, no joke, after they punished the trailer of him getting juke'd out by Saquon. Cam Curl, he tweeted, L-H-H, laugh my, you know what off? I ain't playing man this year.

Why they do be like that, dawg? Been playing all my life, and how about first thing on the trailer gonna be? Hey, listen, it's all good. It happened to the best of us. They're a lot of- Nah, you say it's all good it happened to the best of us. Nah you say it's all good but they ain't got that hit that Ray put on you on there on Madden. Hey well listen it continues to replace still 20 years later I have a long way. Madden, this bad on Madden. Oh Joe you know how many people gonna get that Madden. Well you know how many people don't see me get ran over by Ray. I want to see it on Madden. Hey, he's gonna be alright.

You're gonna be alright. Listen, I want to see it on Madden. I want to see if you go across there and catch it, I can do the same thing like Ray did in real life. I could do it on Madden. You can. You can. You definitely can. Listen, I think it's a good thing. It's an iconic moment. You might have been the one that got hurtled over, but listen, you could tell your grandkids. Boy, look at your daddy. Man, I didn't tell about grandkids, dad. I was on the cover of Madden, but is it 26 or 25?

Would you tell your grandkids you got beat up? Yeah. I know you won't. Hey, listen, I live in my truce. I live in my truce. Listen, your daddy used to fight. I lost a few, though. I lost a few. I ain't telling. I'd be able to. Listen, your daddy used to fight. I lost a few, though. Mm-mm. I lost a few.

I ain't telling. And I'd be able to name them, too. I'm gonna have an excuse. He-he. He-he-he-he-he. You think players should be sensitive about how they're portrayed in Madden? No.

OK, yes. Yes, that means a lot. That means a lot to the players. It does. You know, I do the ratings. I do the ratings. So I try to be as fair as possible for those players that have, that are disgruntled and upset about what their ratings are. Like, listen, I play the game. I understand the game. I watch all of you.

Very, very closely, especially the skill possession, the wide receivers and DBs. Now the other positions, I really don't have anything to do and no say so in what your ratings are. But wide receivers the DBs? I'm watching you. So if your rating is what it is, all I need to see is you show out Consistently improvement you get improved grade. Yeah, man. Yeah And if they sometime they come to me in public and like if I have my iPad with me I'll pull up I'll pull up like in PowerPoint presentation. This is why you were 83 because one week we play somebody that's not that good.

You cutting up and then you would play, you played pass or attain. Well, you, you go ghost. Where do you go? I need consistency every week, no matter who you plan. I need, I need to do right by me. Don't give me that. Cause you know, I've only, I've been one of the handful of guys that's ever been a hundred, they need to do right about me. Don't give me that cuz you know, I've only I've been one of the handful of guys that's ever been a hundred They need to do right by me. Oh Joe. Hey, uh, listen

Andy we got you we got you we got you. We don't get you. I got me It's only like three of our fake time. It's been about four or five of us. They've been a hundred right? So I want to change I want some shoes. I Got what kind of chain? And in 2027, the guys that been a hundred built on the cover. I got you. I got you. I can't put you on the cover, but we're going to take care. Why not? We're going to take care of your ultimate team. We're going to put you on ultimate team.

You want a chain too? Yep. You were asking for a whole lot. I've been a hundred. I know, but that was 30 years ago. It don't matter what it was. It was like you tell me, I did it. OK, you right.

You right by that. You right by that. I got you. They put a man on the moon 50 years ago. They did it. Hey, hold on. You know what? I don't know.

That's kind of sketchy. Do you really think they went to the moon 50 years ago? They did. Well, how long ago when you saw him boat ran that nine five? Hey, that boy was moving. But we were able to- That was a long time ago. He did it. Hey, hold on.

We were able to see that with our own eyes. Well, you saw me earn that 100 with your own eyes. Yeah, you was all right. You was all right. He's all right. James Cook reportedly disconnected himself Yeah, you was all right. This is the nature of the business This is not the first time it happened and it definitely won't be the last time I would love a James Cook to get his money It's well-deserved

But again, we have to understand for those that are in the chat you have to understand how the NFL the front offices the GM's the Presidents how they view the running back position. There are tier one running backs, the McCaffrey's, the Saquans, the Derrick Henry's, the Christian McCaffrey's that they value. Josh Jacob, Jameer Gibbs. Yeah, that they value. I'm not sure why James Cook is not in that conversation when it comes to the tier one

running backs, but obviously Buffalo doesn't see or view him in that nature or they wouldn't even be in the position area now. There would be talks about getting the deal done. You got mandatory mini camp coming in. OTAs are going on. Normally, you know, there's, there's some type of activity or, or some type of a progress, the fact that we talked to Jay not, I mean, not too long ago. Um, wait, it was, That was in season, huh?

No, they had lost. They had just lost. Oh, listen, look how long that's been though. Look how long that's been. And still, after all this time, there's been no progress in things not going in the right direction. That lets you know what it is, man. And it sucks for both parties involved. It sucks for the Bills organization. It sucks for the Bills fans. Hell, it sucks for James Cook and his family for all that he's done, especially when you see what he's done on the field consistently,

week in and week out. Tom Brady explained why he'll never criticize Patrick Mahomes during the broadcast. How can I throw shade at someone who is amazing as Mahomes is? I know he's been through, and I think the one position that I'm in now as a broadcaster, I do feel a responsibility to tell the fans what I see and be honest and upfront about everything, but also realize that these

guys are doing on the field is extremely difficult. It's a high level of skill. You're looking at the 32 teams who have starting quarterbacks out there. This guy's one of the best in the world at what he does. So do they make the right plays all the time? Certainly not. But by the way, neither did I. And I think I ha I think you have to have this context and perspective.

That's all we ask. Yeah. Is that you don't make excuses. If Patrick Mahomes make a bad throw, say Patrick Mahomes made a bad ask. Yeah. Is that you don't make excuses. If Patrick Mahomes make a bad throw, say Patrick Mahomes made a bad throw. Yeah. That's all. Mm-hmm. I mean, he's human.

Yeah. Michael Jordan took some bad shots, didn't play well. It's right to say that that happened. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes, it does not matter. If a guy doesn't play well, it's your obligation because you know what the casual fan at home doesn't know. Yeah.

So I don't think that's asking much for the guys that's calling the game. And I know it's hard because here's the thing. You can't be too critical when you're in that position because then they won't do production meeting with you. So you have to walk a very fine line. If you, if you play by play or you do color, which Tom does color. Right.

So you have to walk that like, yeah, that was a, that was a bad throw. That's not like Patrick Mahomes. You got to, you know, say, I don't tell you, you got to crouch it, couch it. Yeah. I don't, I don't know what he saw on that one. That's not like Patrick, a guy that's played as, as, as one, as many Subos as he has and MVPs. That's not like him.

So give the defense credit on that. You know, you got an aid, but he he still, I still take a Patrick Mahomes. That's how you have to. Yeah, absolutely. Listen, it's all about, it's all about wordplay and center structure. That's all it is. And he's not going to have the same much often because players like Patrick Mahomes, your Tom Brady's, your Peyton Mannings, they are much

more consistent as opposed to being bad. That's how they get to become where they are. Because we look, and but see that's the thing though, Ocho. And so because they're not criticized that much, they should be okay. Bingo. Right. You play seven good games, you have one bad game. We say, well, he didn't play well today. I mean, he's played up until this point.

I had him as the MVP. Well, he don't play well. We ought to say that, you know, he didn't play well today. Yeah, right, right, right. Mm hmm. But guys are so sensitive now. If you say they didn't play well, what you hate. Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. And then obviously the blowback,

the blowback because it's Tom Brady criticizing Patrick Mahomes, I can see it from that lens. They try to build it up more than what it is. The great Tom Brady criticizes Patrick Mahomes. Exactly. And that from that lens. They try to build it up more than what it is. The great Tom Brady criticizes Patrick Mahomes. Exactly, and that's exactly what they're gonna do. They're gonna blow everything out of proportion, depending on what he said, they're gonna be critical and dissect every little word that's said,

and that's one of the reasons why I think he said what he said. Yeah, and I think the thing, that's why, you know, for me, Ocho, I had to be careful, because every time they ask me, you think such and such should be in the Hall of Fame? Well, I ain't got to vote. Hall of Fame or Shannon Sharp doesn't think such and such should be...

Bro, you vote. Y'all, whatever y'all decide. Y'all know, I mean, there are a few guys that's in the Hall that actually have votes, but for the most part, the majority of us don't have a vote. Right. So I don't have a vote. Right.

So I don't, what do you think about this guy? What you mean? I didn't play against it. Right. I mean, like I said, I thought I knew what a Hall of Famer was until I saw some guys that started not getting in, it took them one, two, three, four, five times to get in. I was like, I have no idea what a Hall of Famer is. I don't.

So I stopped trying to figure it out. Michael Wood, I was very fortunate to get in on my third attempt. My brother got in this year. So we're the first two brothers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Whatever happens after that, hey, it is what it is. I got no, I get the offer.

I'm not offering no more commentary. Yeah, see? That's. I'm not offering no more commentary. Yeah. See that's, that's why, that's why I ended up to myself. So, you know, but I, but the thing is, is that I think like for us, what we do, we do, I'm like, bro, so how can I? You out there, you stink up the joint. You run a sloppy route. You let the guy undercut it and pick it off. And I'm supposed to say what?

You don't go through your progression. You stared, you made your mind up when you left the huddle. You made your mind up when you was going to go with this football. You stare the guy down, he picks it off. What am I supposed to say? Right. You got to. I'm going to make a PSA before the season starts, huh? If you're a DB, Ocho, and your eyes,

and you watching the quarterback. Yeah, oh, you beat. You beat. The guy that you covering, what you doing with him? What am I supposed to say? You beat every time. Every time you peek your guy's mind back in that backfield, you beat.

So what you're supposed to do? You think you could be able to get the sack in from where you are on the field? Mm-hmm, trying to jump. You take a bad angle, Ocho. You're supposed to go underneath, you go over. Or you're supposed to take away the inside and you let the guy beat you inside. Right. Or it's a double team and away the inside and you let the guy beat you inside?

Right. Or it's a double team and you got outside and you let the guy beat you outside. What am I supposed to say? Right. Cause, cause I'm basically on a lot of times the situations that I've been in or situations I've seen guys in Ocho. I mean, it's hard for me to say, Ocho, you and I playing as long as we have 25, 26 years combined in NFL,. There's something going on in the field that we haven't seen ourselves. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, when football season starts, I'm going to do a PSA. I'm going to do a... All, obviously, my expertise is on DBs and wide receivers. I'm going to do a PSA before the season starts that do not take anything I say offensive. I'm just giving you my expertise based on what I saw in today's game. I don't want no issues. If you have any issues, all of y'all got my number.

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Titans rookie quarterback, Cam Ward, reportedly shows up at the facility at 5 a.m. every day. Head Coach Brian Callahan says he has to force him to go home on some nights. Ward said a 5 a.m. routine has always been a part of the process. It's just my process.

It's how I've always been in college until now. It's how I get everything, whether it's in film, treatment wise, I've got to get everything and to start my day and the end of my day, by whatever time, you gotta get it done. I like it. I like young guys that are the first in and the last to leave. Yeah, I mean, obviously you have to do that.

I mean, you're the number one. Especially that position. Hey, you're the number one pick. You gotta have every edge, every advantage you can get. If that means being there at 5 a.m., even if you're routine, it should be, I mean, then it makes the transition easier into the NFL because there's something you already do.

But everything you need to do, you got to do it. You got to buy in. You got to be the first one there. You are the franchise quarterback now. You've been drafted number one, but leave no effing stone unturned in trying to be the best and change that change that franchise around. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. You're supposed to be at the first pick in the draft.

You're supposed to be franchise altering. Yes. Hey, year one, because you see what T.D. Brown did. You see what Jaden Davis did? Mm-hmm. No, I don't think I don't think I't think, I don't think Ken Ward had the same type of.

You don't have the supporting cast. Yeah, you don't have the supporting cast that they do. So he's going to have to be that much better, that much sharper, that much more consistent. I mean, he does have Kevin Ridley. Do you name one player? That's what I'm saying. But yeah. Look what CJ Stroud had his first year. Yeah, he had Tank Dale player? That's what I'm saying. But yeah. Look what CJ

Stroud had his first year. Yeah. He had Tank Dale, Nico Collins, Dalton Schultz. Yeah. Now, now, now talking about look what Jaden Daniels had his first year. Yeah. Come on. There's a big difference based on you got Calvin Ridley. That's that goal. But still you need, you need more to make your job easier. You're right. You're right. He's gonna be all right though. He's good. He's good. He's gonna be all right. But I like that. Keep it up.

Reggie Bush went off on NFL team owners for being cheap and using turf fields despite increased risk of injury. Unfortunately, NFL still believe that turf is the cheapest, most cost efficient way in the league that annulizes, or what is that? Annualizes, okay, makes billions every year. It's not adding up to me.

It's repetitive cycle and it's going to continue. It's unfortunate. It will continue until the players decide to stand up and say, listen, we don't wanna play on turf anymore. Then the things will all players hate, no sports should ever be played on turf. 17 of the 32 teams play on artificial turf Then the thing will all players hate it. No sports should ever be played on turf 17 of the 32 teams play on artificial turf

Because guess what Oh Joe what? It's easy because there are other things that they have on those football fields other than football games, right? They have monster truck pools They have concerts. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I understand. They have a lot of other things, Ocho. And the turf grass is very expensive. To put down new sod and to grow it in, it gets very expensive. If it's just a field that the only thing, because if it's just football, I can't make my money. I need to have Beyonce in there. I need to have Taylor Swift in there. I need to have monster trucks. Yeah. I need to have other concerts. You have other- I need to have other events in there. I need to have monster trucks. Yeah. I need to have other concerts. You have other events. I need to have other events there.

To pay the bills. Yeah. To pay the bills. Mm-hmm. So look at SoFi. Olympics opening ceremonies in 28th. The World Cup, 2026. That's right.

Beyonce was there for like what, three, four days. Taylor Swift was there three or four days. They have football games there. Yeah. I got to get my money. I'm sorry. Hey, I don't, I'm listen. I, I understand.

Maybe, maybe running backs. Um, maybe it's just me. I hate it too. Okay. But we had, I mean, when I first got to the league, we had that old, y'all had that bull job on y'all field too. Y'all get, y'all got, I think y'all got that field turf now, but we had the artificial turf, which was seen with that little bulljive rolled on top of it.

Yeah, we, we, we, I had the artificial turf, but I like it, donk. I like it because if it's raining, you heard me, if it's raining, donk, I still know I can run full speed and I can still stop on a dime. It's going to grab every time.. It's gonna grab every time. It's gonna grab every time. And that made me feel comfortable as opposed to having grass and having to put them goddamn seven studs in and hurt my damn feet. I love to play.

I play with tempo. I play with the speed, TV problems. Yeah. But it didn't matter to me, Ocho, you know why you wasn't going to slip? Because you didn't plant. And I tell them, you're slipping. You notice on the back of your heel, you got four. In the front, you got seven.

So they're trying to tell you to get over your knees and drop your hips and stop planting on the back of your heel. That's why you're slipping. You know what's funny? Is that was so unorthodox. Hey, Unc, I can run out route to the left and I can cut on my in on my outside foot Yeah

Oh you got you got to see it and it looks and I lose no No rhythm. No, it's crazy It's crazy. It's weird now. I'd be right right in the flow It is yeah, I don't know but I didn't slip cuz like I said as I got older Oh Joe, I wrote I wore um, I wore spare tempo bottoms. Yeah, but earlier in my career I would I wore I wore seven studs But you know, I mean like I said, I mean, hey, hey, I'm studs hurt you too much. Oh, yeah Oh hell no. Oh no And I you had that I had no choice when we played the Steelers at any point in the 2000s,

on that field they had at Hines, back then, I think they purposely didn't get it done. I think they purposely didn't get it done. Oh my goodness. Yeah. I played those old three rivers. That turf terrible to y'all tip field was terrible to I never saw three years. Oh Three rules terrible that turf was terrible, but it get loud and in the seats Do you start bouncing the seats do this you can see the people jumping up and down? It's nice to go back cuz you like like man, I remember the first time that I played there. It was like, I'm like, man, the steel curtain played here.

Yeah. You know, they, you know, when the AFC championship games, it's always the, you know, you, you play it and something is stored as like three rivers or Lambo. So I'm talking about the old, the old, I'm trying to think, did I play in the old? Yeah, I played in the old metal lands. You know, not MetLife, the old metal lands. Okay, okay.

You know, they still share the field. But so it's just like, just walking into that stadium and knowing the history of that stadium. Like, wow. Ocho, a new study from LSU Business School found that Super Bowl 59 had a major economic impact on Louisiana, generating an estimated 1,250,000,000. The report looked at spending time to everything from hotel stays, restaurants, transportation, entertainment across the state.

Roughly 115,000 people came to New Orleans for the weekend, including a hundred thousand from out of state, given the major boost to tourism. That's why all these teams keep bidding. Last thing, the event also supported nearly 10,000 jobs across the region, making it a win well beyond the field. Go ahead, Ochoa. Hey, why do you think teams or cities, I mean, cities being to have the Super Bowl in their city, they understand the economic impact it can have on that city in such a

short amount of time, one week. Do you know how, what can you do where you can make a billion dollars in a week? No, no nothing. Nothing. And nobody's had more Super Bowls than New Orleans, Ocho. So they know how to do, they're used to, they put out, they have Mardi Gras. So they're used to having national championship games in the Superdome. They're used to having Super Bowls in the Super Bowl dome. But, you know, it's going to if in L.A. that's right, it's in San Francisco. They go to Atlanta.

It doesn't mean they don't know. They don't need San Francisco to need no more money. They don't even know. Atlanta boys going to be crazy out there, boy. You got to tell me I already know because I went to the one in 2019 when New England played the Rams. Right. OK, boy. You ain't gotta tell me. I already know. Because I went to the one in 2019 when New England played the Rams. Right, okay, okay, okay. Crazy.

No, the Rams. It's gonna come back to Vegas. You mean the Falcons? No, they played the Rams. They played the Rams in Atlanta. They played, the Patriots played the Falcons in Houston. Okay, okay, okay, okay, you right, you right, you right, you right, you right.

Houston. Aw, man. But pretty soon it's gonna be like, oh, like you get a new stadium. I don't know who is in line to get a new stadium because, you know, but Atlanta, they gonna rotate Atlanta, SoFi, Vegas, Houston. Miami. Miami, Arizona.

Yeah, Arizona field, Arizona got that damn Bermuda grass on oh my they got they roll it out See it's on slabs. It's like a huge what is yeah a Houston in Houston, Arizona Got the best fields. I don't care. No and his grass grass. They don't do it, but nobody say Yeah My high got the best grass. We got real grass and we got some synthetic salt in there. Ooh. Mile High? Nah. I mean, yeah, this is altitude too high.

Y'all grass is fake. Nah. Nah, I grass real, bro. Nah, come on, man. Don't do that. You're a hater, Ocho. Don't do that. But yeah, but that's why, Ocho, that's why teams, they want, I mean, that's why they want the Super Bowl. That's why they try to get in on those beds and try to get,

hey, let's get a World Cup come through here. Yeah, let's get the Olympics so far la-a. Mm-hmm Atlanta's a and the funny thing about it you think you think you think the Super Bowl had an economic impact on Dan we was just at Oh New Orleans. Yeah, it till you see where the the World Cup each city is in Oh my god, I think the finals gonna be in New York, right? But it's coming through Kansas City It's going through Kansas City. They're going to go into so far. I think the semifinals in like so far something. Hey boy Everybody from every other country is coming to support their country. That's gonna be good.

I can't wait, I can't wait. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm trying to think. Oh no, I don't know if I wanna deal with all that. Oh Joe, college sports changed radically Friday night. Schools will begin to directly plan their athletes less than a month, thanks to a legal settlement that was officially approved in

federal court. Starting July 1st, each school will be allowed, but not required, to spend roughly $20.5 million in new payments to their athletes. Each school's athletic department can decide how it will divide the money amongst athletes. Athletes will also be allowed to make money from selling their rights to their name, image, and likeness at IL to other parties as well. Look, it's like anything, Ocho. Yeah?

Your chief generating program, the guys, the athletes are going to make more money. That's just the way it is. So I know they're going to be softball and gymnastics. So I was that guy make for me, bro. That's how it is. The best players on the football team, the best players on the basketball team, the best players on the basketball team, Mocho, they get paid the most. Football and basketball, I'm trying to say,

okay, like Duke, Duke is a basketball program. North Carolina is a basketball program. But Alabama, if you in SEC, you know what the hell you go to SEC for? Football. Unless you really like that. Big 10, football. Oh, yeah.

Ohio State, USC, UCLA, Michigan, Penn State, those are football schools. Yeah. Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Texas, OU, Ole Miss, those are football schools. Yeah, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Texas. Oh you oh miss Football schools. Yeah Now I like it there there there have been so many so many gripes about you know players getting money and being too young and you know being able to I Just like it on because of the colleges and I ain't got no problem with it.

Get that bread. Yeah, they've taken advantage of these kids' likeness for years and made billions and billions and millions of dollars off these players. It does away with amateurism. They've been done away with that. When y'all started getting these big TV contracts, y'all didn't give a damn about no amateurism.

It was about financial gain. And the player said, and these athletes says, I want some of it. Yeah. I'll tell you what, that guy could be a straight A student, but if he got an, if he got a, a, a sports scholarship, let him suck on the football field, the baseball field, diamond or the basketball court and see if he's still there. If it's, if it's. If it's about an education. Bill, they say, hey, Holmes, hey, you want an athletic scholarship, not academic.

Right. Don't lose sight of that now. I'm gonna get my books, though, because I wanna stay here, you know. I'm gonna get my book, but I didn't lose sight. Man, listen, I'm gonna get my books though, Joe, cause I wanna stay here, you know. I'm gonna get my book, but I didn't lose sight. Man, listen, I'm gonna do just enough so I can touch that field, I tell you that. You gotta make, I made you an eligibility.

That was my major. That was my major, Joe. Hey, that's a good one, I ain't never heard that one. I made you an eligibility. Oh, man. Oh, major eligibility. Oh man. Oh Joe, the most game tying or lead taking shots with under five seconds left in the playoff game since 1997. Goat James, eight of those.

Reggie Miller, five of those. Tyrese Halliburton, five of those. Four of those came this year alone. Kobe Bryant has four, Chris Middleton has four, as you can see, Paul Pierce, Tim Duncan, Manu Janobli, Ray Allen, Dame Dollar, Jimmy Butler and Tray L all have three. But I thought LeBron didn't take and make... oh never mind. Never mind, Ocho. Yeah, I forgot who that was. He didn't have a clutch gene. He was scared to have a hand.

But the game's on. Listen, I've heard those rummings before. I heard those before. I'm not going to say who said it, but I've heard him before. Yeah, he's nice. Hey, Halliburton, Halliburton, listen. If Halliburton had himself a playoff run. Hey, talk about overrated, huh?

Hey, he might go and win this goddamn Series and win that championship and I guarantee you in his speech. He will mention How's that for overrated? I can't rate that over right there. I guarantee you I'm telling you I'm calling it right now I'll tell you what he won a championship They need to build him a statue A statue already when he done. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, we know we need done. Okay. Okay. Yeah And to say I thought you for the game of statue before you even finish You can't get nobody though. I mean

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, playoff run as you're gonna see. Now, not from, not, you know, he's not averaging 38 and 10. Right. But as, I'm thinking about it, game one, Klusher against Milwaukee, did that. Against Cleveland, did that. Against the Knicks, did that. Man, he, hey, like I said, the only run that's been close to that, well, the shots were LeBron. He hit the three against Indiana and then he hit the kiss off the

glass against Toronto. But, I mean, this man has got four of those shots in the playoffs alone this year. He's playing unbelievable. It couldn't happen to a better guy. I wonder how much those court side tickets are. Well, they're not, they're not expensive. Like if it was in, in New York, LA, it's not the same, huh? No, hell no. Yeah. I was just asking.

I'm not going, I'm just curious to see what it was being that it is a final. I thought they would have, they would have tripled the price of something. I mean triple the price might be 15,000 Might be 10,000 right bread people in there I mean, there's some people wealthy people, but it's not like LA and New York or choke right right right understandable a Dog immediately feels bad after making a hole in the wall take a look at this video, Joe Oh, that's the black dog. Hey, that is so funny A dog immediately feels bad after making a hole in the wall. Take a look at this video, Ocho. Oh, that's a black dog? Hey, that is so f- Oh.

Uh-oh. That ain't a- It's a- Oh, that ain't a. You think. Oh, he say, let me go sit down for some for the coming here and find out that I did it. You can go back over there to it. No, he like, hey, you close it. You did. He did it. Hmm. Hey, hold on.

Hold on. I'm gonna wait. Hey, listen on. Please tell Ash, you have a team of people. Please tell them to find the same video, right? With the guy who does the voiceovers. The guy who does the voiceovers, he does voiceover with the animals and stuff like that. Yeah. And he does a voiceover the animals and stuff like that. Yeah. And he does a voiceover for that exact video of them playing around and he's talking. It is so funny. I swear to God I was crying for like 10 minutes straight.

Oh, the comedian, he a comedian? Yes, he's a comedian. Playboy. Voiceover all the animals. He got one for that video. Oh my God. It was hilarious. He, he, he, he, he.

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It's time for Q&A. I'm ready for the game tomorrow. You want to make a little light bet? Nope. And for our last segment of the evening of the show, it's time for Q and A. I'm ready for the game tomorrow. You wanna make a little light bet? Nope. We put a tone. And here's Anderson laughing at. He's talking about you wanna make a little light bet.

I want you, maybe by the money you owe me. I got you, I got you. Brandon M said, what's y'all favorite Wayne line? Mine is we taking over. I'm a beast, feed me rappers or feed me beats. I'm a bangle, I'm a cheetah. I don't even know how to say it the right way.

Hey chat, somebody give me that Wayne line where he said Ocho. He ain't say it. He did. I'm a bangle. No, he didn't, I don't remember. I don't know how to say it. He did. I'm a bank. No, he didn't. I don't remember. I don't know how to say it. Somebody gonna feed it to me in the chat.

One city at a time we taking over. I'm a beast, feed me rapper to feed me beast. I'm untamed, I lead a leash. I'm insane, I need a shriek. I love brain, I lead a leash. Why complain? I'm on easy street. I'll be the talk, I let my beast speak. And I like my sprite Easter pink.

Ooh. But that's one thing about Khaled now. Hey, would Khaled put something together? Yeah, he nice with it. Khaled nice with it now. Yeah, Khaled. If I was an artist, you know, I have, you know, make me some beats and produce some for me too. But you starting out on Joy Calls, man.

Man, Khaled brought it to me. Nah, they didn't do go hit you for a million. Nah, they didn't do me a favor, man, for me. They ain't no shit. For them boys. Hey, for me, you know them boys, they shit. They shit. This new dog say, hey, he want 250 to 500 for a beat,

and for the video, you get an hour. So get the shootin'. This me, huh? This me, I know business comes first, but with the certain people that come to you and need a favor. Oh, for Ocho? Aw, nigga, man, sh- Well, you ain't got to pay me nothing, man.

What you trying to do? Realed up like Ocho. Yeah. I think I- I think I'm way wordplay way wordplay is crazy. Nobody got to have earphones on because if you don't have earphones on you might miss it. Oh man. Listen, man. I'm telling you just listen to listen to them two songs.

The one Maria with white left and the other one being myself. Listen to being myself first. Many friends did the beat and just listen to what he's saying. Johnny Kierroy, what's up Uncle Ocho? It's Elliot. I love the show. What do y'all do? Hey Ocho, who you got so salty at my five, six hundred eighty-five pounds self

because I can push those 140s for nine. My video is on his Twitter, had Ocho in his feelings. Ocho! I don't, I don't. That man put 140s up, Ocho? I mean, yeah, he's short and he built like a pit bull and when he laid down, his feet was dangling. So he should be able to do it.

Now I'm just playing, I wasn't mad. Listen, I mean, I talk shit like that all goddamn day. Why, congratulations, why I love you, baby. You know, you still my dog or not, but I'm gonna hit them 40s, them 140s Monday for him. Hey, I did the 120s the other day, I did it for eight, but everybody telling me to come down a little further, right, but all my, I talk to Phil Heath, right?

I talk to Phil Heath and Phil told me and some other professional bodybuilders, you know, who won Olympia and say listen coming down 90 degrees, that's enough. Now anything below that, you know, it's called a strain on the shoulders with that type of weight, with that much weight. You know, your arms, they shit. Phil Heath told me go 90 degrees, I'm going 90 degrees. I don't care what that's gonna say. Okay, okay. You hear me? Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Oh, now you know Phil Heath, huh? No, me and Phil like this. Me and Phil used to train together. How you think he won a few of them Olympias? How many Olympias he won? Eight, no seven. Seven. Seven, seven. Yeah, seven.

Yeah, so he thought I was lying. Rodney Leroy won eight. Yeah, hey, look how big I am. Look how I feel my shirt out, though. That's crazy, huh? Yeah, Lee. Big IT, what's up, Uggadocho? When y'all going to have a tour in Nashville, Tennessee?

And, Ugg, do you think Go James will be able to get number ring number five if they get a big? It all depends on who the big is Alex Lynn was not gonna be help them get a ring they need they did a quality big they need a mark William would definitely help the guy from Charlotte but they got to fill out the roster they don't just need a big they need some depth they need people you see the team. They don't just need a big, they need some depth. They need people.

You see the teams that are in the finals, what do they have? Yeah, a bench. Yeah, a bench. Keber Norwood Jr. My question is, what's your top five movie candies? Oh, Twizzlers, Reese's Pieces, Sour Patch Kids, Gummy Bears, M&M's. Nah, man, you trippin', man.

Man! Boy, if I have some milk, Doug. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. Listen. The fact that you ain't.

And pull my whole grill out. You ain't say you raisin' this. I don't know. What? Like no raisin' this. You ain't. Man, you ain't. And halfway through the movie, guess what?

We going home. Why? Raisins. Oh, you can't eat raisins? No sir. Oh I know that. Okay my bad my bad my bad. I can eat them. Yeah. But 30 minutes. Hey, I'm a raisin, I'm a raisin. I can't wait to go. Listen, I couldn't wait to go see, see Sinners in the theater. The simple fact that I hadn't had raisin that's been so long and hadn't been to the movies since before COVID.

I'm like, yeah, the first thing I'm going to grab at Cinemark or right here off, right off, right here off of Sheridan. I can't be some raisin. That's not raising it. Right here off right off right here off of Sheridan. Yeah, okay. We some raisiness. No Yeah, Twizzlers first, uh Reese's Pieces So patch Are you okay? I've been to I think I've been to one movie in five years What would you saw? I? Don't even remember because it was just like right. It was just like right. It was like a year

Damn I don't know what the hell I saw. Mm-hmm. It was probably like 20. It was probably like 20 20 23. Mm-hmm like in March of 23 Okay, who's that I pick Okay. Okay. I pick I-Pick. Okay. Okay. I-Pick. But I used, man, I love, Ocho, I love the movies. I used to go all the time.

That was my thing. Just, hey, just go get my workout in on Saturdays in the off season and you'll see two, three movies. Then go back home. Gee, I'm good. Then I'm good. Yeah. Hey, Ellis, I, uh. I need to go to the

movies. Give me I don't know how people eat that big old bucket of popcorn. I can't do that. Just get a small one. You don't need no big one. Yeah yeah I never got the bucket and I don't want to share. Let's get a bucket. No no no you get your own. Hold on. How you gonna go on a date to a movie and not share? That's the whole. No I want you to have your own. You serious? Yep. Okay all right. Hold on hold on. How you gonna go on a date to a movie and not share? That's the whole... No, I want you to have your own. Mm-mm. You serious? Yep. Okay, alright. Hold on, hold on. Sam, I just thought about something. I'm not gonna let you get away with this.

How you eating Twizzlers, man? You know what Twizzlers taste like? Yeah. Twizzlers. Yeah. Like, hey, you ever taste candle wax? Yeah. Hey, nah, you remember them things used to have that liquid in there and you chew them? Yeah. It was wax that had liquid inside of it. What they call them. I don't know bad Twillers tastes like candle wax I know that I love that Twizzlers. I love Twizzlers. Then I get Reese's Pieces. So, you know, I get a piece

Bang of popcorn, that's a good one Reese's Pieces Reese's Packs bites That's a good one. The Reese's Pieces. Reese's Pieces. Sour Patch. Gummy. Sour Patch is cool, but then I hate when the roots of my mouth or my tongue get um... You get numb? Yeah man, not numb, just from like, you know you eat pineapple, you eat... Oh yeah yeah yeah. I don't like that with the sour patch stuff.

Steven Bass 3.4T said, uh,, what you know about the way you speak about discipline has literally changed my life. Keep preaching. Can you give another story about you and Sterling from your childhood? Much love, big fan. Well, I think, look, my grandfather was in the military and when you walk on, when you work on a farm, you have to be disciplined. They're hard-working because it ain't no easy, ain't no easy job on the farm. Ain't nothing easy about the farm. I mean, you bailing hay, or you feeding animals,

you lifting big old feed sacks, and you know. But I was one of them guys, hey, I see my cousins do it. I see everybody. I want to try to do it too. I ain't got no business trying to lift no 25 pound feed sack at no five, six, seven years of age. Right. And tell me nothing.

I'm ready to say, hey, if you grab it, you gotta pull it. Yeah. So, but I just think the thing is that's... As a matter of fact, I just talked to my brother today. It's tough, man, it's tough. I think about when I think about. What he and I went through to get to where we are. Um.

It makes you appreciate it, it makes you appreciate, it'll make you appreciate stuff. Makes you appreciate having him. Like I said, I don't know if I, I don't know if any other brother I'd have that relationship with. Cause I, hell I need it more now than I ever needed before. And he's been there. Yes sir. But, uh, Steven, I wish everybody could have a starving shark for an older brother. LA Brown MD said, okay, okay, Ocho, can you drop a skin regimen?

Because you look real smooth. Don't say eating cat because that's not on the menu. Blah. Hey, but listen, listen. I just, you know, my skin routine, you know, my hair is all the same. I use fair and white, matter of fact, fair and white black soap, fair and white black soap. Matter of fact, hold on, hold on, hold on.

It's right here, hold on. Matter of fact, hold on, hold on, hold on. It's right here, hold on. See, I got my toiletry bag right here, too. Mm-hmm. A fair and white, that is right there. Fair and white black soap. It's all I use. I get it from a beauty supply store on 54th Street in Miami.

So in the hood, any beauty supply store, fair and white black soap. It's the only thing I've ever used. Obviously when I shave, I don't shave. I don't use a razor. I use clip-ups. Anytime I shave- Boy, you know you used to use ivory soap or ivory spray. Hold on, hold on. Let me finish, I'm getting my routine. So listen, these are my clippers right here, right? You know, I cut my hair, bam, bam, boom, shade this up real quick.

And then I use skin type. See that, I use a skin type, cause I ain't got no razors, no nothing, right? Before and after that, then I use my fair and white black soap. Fair and white, that's my routine. And I be watching watching Twitter on people with a dude be having all these routines rubbing all this stuff all on it I'm like, what do you got time for? What is your thing?

But two minutes I'm done, but I got time for all that Hey, you haven't 15 15 minute routines every night and man listen, I'd rather be bumpy routine every night and listen I'd rather be bumpy Bumpy you because hey they be calling you bumpy Johnson Hey listen that didn't that name will have to stick but some of that stuff I think some I listen I understand creating content But got there some of that stuff be like over the top Every night, especially you come home from somewhere and you sleep? Yeah. Man, the women do that.

They women got their routine. They put that thing, they do that every night, don't matter what. Better than me. Having to have it on makeup and having to use... Those wipes to get it off? Yeah, the wipes to get it off. Then you gotta take it, you know,

depending if you got it on strips or you got it on individuals, you got to take, the wife to get it off. You gotta take it, you know, depending if you got on strips or you got on individuals, you gotta take your lash, take your strips off. Your wig, you take your wig off and set it on a styrofoam. Like, I mean, listen, what women have to go through when they come home, nah, it's too much. It's too much. That concludes this episode of Nightcap.

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