Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2:  Unc CLOWNS Bills, Micah Parsons speaks up to Jerry Jones in contract talks, Bengals & Trey Hendrickson drama brewing

Episode Date: April 9, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top NFL stories of the week, including Unc clowns Bills for being sore losers to Chiefs, Tension brewing between Bengals & Trey Hendrickson, & much more!04:19 - Fan calls out mayor for being a Cowboys fan06:00 - Micah Parsons taking a page from Jerry Jones in contract talks24:10 - Kyler Murray doesn’t like to run the ball33:50 - Chiefs fans notice NFL rule change after two Bills losses41:44 - Things are spicy between Bengals and Trey Hendrickson(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Head over to your nearest Boost Mobile store and make the most out of your tax refund. Ocho, a Philly man called out the mayor for being incompetent because he's a Dallas cowboy fan. Let's take a listen to this. This is what happened guys, residents of upper Derby township, when you elect the Cowboys fan to your government, 29 years of losing with this team. What do you expect with the leadership? This is a Cowboys fan. This guy follows the Cowboys. Damn. You see what type of leadership they have, and that's what you put your trust in. Cowboys fan. Sickening.

Second part. Hey, you got to be able to separate the two, baby. You got to be able to separate the two. Your political views and the way things are run with the country and government and the team you decide to support based on probably your childhood. That's normally where it comes from. Yeah, but you're not expecting to see somebody from a whole... Oh Joe, that's a rival. I'm not expecting to see somebody run for mayor in Denver and they talk about their chief fan or their Raiders fan.

Right, but listen that's why I said him being a fan of the Dallas Cowboys and being in here Being in office. He is a fan of them simply because of something that happened when he was young When he was young, that's all I got guarantee you that it was his parents or he grew up We know they grew up watching the Cowboys during those times when they were they were winning and winning Super Bowls I guarantee that's where it comes from. It's not like he just woke up. He's from Philly and was never a Philly fan and was a Cowboys fan. This is what Michael tweeted.

Michael said, Facts, David is the best and I will not be doing any deal without David Mugaleta, at David Mugaleta, involved. Like anyone with good sense, I hired experts for a reason. There's no one I trust more when it comes to negotiating contracts than David There will be no backdoors in this contract negotiation Yeah, no zero

I know you I wonder stuff like that pisses Jerry off but Jerry to come out and say one thing and then Mike can come Back and correct them and let the world know regardless of what Jerry says I do have representation and I'm not getting a deal won't be done unless Jerry goes to the right channels, the proper channels to get. Yeah. And I got one more year on my deal.

Miles Garrett had two years left on his deal. Miles Garrett got 40 mil, come on, me. Miles Garret got 123.5 guaranteed, 100 million in the first three years. I need to get more than that. Because Miles Garret got two years left. I got one. Holler at your boy. And hold on, what if they get to the point where they piss Mike off and they piss off the agent and they say you know what we just gonna play out that last year and you can don't franchise tag us. We're too late They got that franchise tag on them. But see here's my negotiating. Here's my negotiating chip moving forward Y'all won't this negotiate y'all won't this 18th game. No more franchise tags. No more transition tags

That's a good man. And hey's for bark, that's for starters. And I want at least for every bested player that plays at least three years and become bested, I want at least ten years of medical. Benefits after we done playing. After we done. At least at the bare minimum ten and the more you play the longer that goes. But I don't want a franchise tag franchise tag goes away immediately transition tag goes away immediately I like that I have a question I got a good question though huh think about this if there was something that you could put on the table what would you rather more we read it a franchise get rid of the

franchise tag lifetime healthetime health benefits. Or people have the ability to get guaranteed contracts. Guaranteed contracts. That's a good one. I knew that, I knew that's a good one. That's a good one. Guaranteed contracts, guaranteed. And I mean, look, and now I think the thing is,

oh Joe, everybody's trying to get at least the first three years guaranteed. But hey, I've seen them do it. They guaranteed, they've guaranteed entire contracts. Kirk Cousins, ever since Kirk Cousins, his third year, he'd gotten franchise tag, which is guaranteed, franchise tag, which is guaranteed. His first three years in Minnesota was guaranteed. His first three years in Minnesota, last six years in Minnesota was guaranteed. His three years in Minnesota was guaranteed. His first three years in Minnesota, last second three years in Minnesota was guaranteed. His three years in Atlanta

is guaranteed. So he has operated with nine years of fully guaranteed contracts. They fully guaranteed Deshaun Watson. So they can do it. Well hold on, wait listen to what you're saying now. Look at the position you talking about. Quarterbacks. You talk about a specific position. The quarterback. The one who actually has the ball in their hands most of the time, all the time. So I think them guaranteeing them money, they see fit based on the position. Yeah. And importance of it. Now what about other positions? Offensive lineman, D lineman, skill player, defensive backs, wide receivers, running backs. I think running backs should probably be the last on the list. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Be able to get money unless you are special. Very. You got to be special. I think the thing is, Ocho, most teams value running backs. The most value running back has is first three, four years out of college. Because guess how old he is? He's normally 21, 22, 23, 24. Now, if he's really good, I've given him somewhere between 200 and 300 carats.

That's just in the NFL. I'm excluding what he put on his body in college, and I'm excluding what he put on his body in high school. I'm assuming. So now you talk about somebody that's had what? Somewhere between six and eight hundred carats in college another 1,200 by the time he's 25, that's 1,800 carats plus what he had in high school. How many more carats he got in them legs? See, that's how they look at it. Yeah, always. But Derek Henry, but you know, D. Henry,

all those carats that he had in high school, I mean, he's the all time leading rusher in high school. D. Henry had like damn near 1,000 carats in college. And what do you have now? Probably another 2, school. D. Henry had like a damn near thousand carats in college. And what do you have now? Probably another 2000. Yeah. So they look at running backs and say, the greatest value you'll have as a running back

is your first three to four years in the NFL. Because guess what? That's when you're at your youngest. That's when you have the most tread on your tires. But I just like this. I'm glad Michael spoke up. I hope he sticks to his guns and don't let Jerry try to backdoor with something slick That's what Dave that's what you hired David Mugulela for and that's a small consolation to have to give up 3%

To not run a file and you like damn They take it all my money. I spoke out. Yeah, I'm the detrimental to the team. Oh, I want this, I want that. Nah, nah, y'all ain't getting none of this back. Yeah. So, it's a, it's a, it's a rough game. It's a tough game, but you really find out how owners feel about you when it comes to negotiations and dealing with this. Yeah. As a player, you not want to be in that room when it's time to negotiate because you will walk out pissed off. Yeah.

Also, I also this how you really feel after all I've done now based on my production and what I'm going to do in the foreseeable future, this is how you really feel about me. Mm hmm. Sometimes player, I mean, players, I mean, ask your agent, tell your agent, tell you the truth on what they really say when it's time to negotiate. Well, you, but you'll be mad as hell. No, I don't want to know. Let's just keep it like that I'm gonna pretend that they love everything about me and you make sure you tell them I love everything about them

But you and I both know but here's the thing Yeah, he didn't mm-hmm. If my question is why didn't you work directly with Dak? Todd France is his agent. Why did you not try to circumvent Todd France? Why didn't you try to circumvent? I don't know who Tony Romo's agent was or CD's agent. Why didn't you try to circumvent them? Because you know CD don't play that. You have to understand. You understand. It's all about knowing your personnel. Understand your personnel. Who's one of the most boisterous in? boisterous cowboy players out there Michael

That don't play that yeah CD don't play that It's not in their character even play that game. I'm not playing that game Well, we already know how we had that that is always husband posed it So that's why he has some type of way because that has never allowed Jerry to get close to him like he does Jerry has his faves and he always tried to get to get close to him. He was very close with Tony Romo Mm-hmm. He was very close with a lot of players He worked hand in hand with him and that worked for him, but that has never allowed him to get close That has always been a I'm the quarterback. I'm gonna do my job to the best of my ability, but I am not gonna

strictly business He's been, hey, I'm the quarterback. I'm gonna do my job to the best of my ability, but I am not gonna be- Strictly business. Strictly business. Strictly business. And he's been the same since day one. Yes, and I don't have, I mean, personally, I don't have a problem with that. I think that's how it should be because look. Right. And because here is the thing, Dak knows deep down inside,

Jerry wanted to put Tony Romo back in there. But he was the only one that wanted that put Tony Romo back in there. Mm hmm. But he was the only one that wanted that Jason Garrett didn't want that. Steven Jones didn't want that. So there's, hold on. I don't want all these games and you still want to bring this man back and put him in there? Oh, interesting.

Okay. No, I'm good. Um, I'm good. I'm good. Look, I know, I know David Muguleta, met him a couple of times, talked to him. Good cat, smart cat brother, has done a great job. If I'm not mistaken, I think he got CJ Stroud. He had a company, he got, he got a lot of big time player, Athlete First, Athlete First, is a big time company, a lot of brothers.time player athlete first and more athletes first Have a big-time company a lot of brothers

And they do an outstanding job You know clutch Nicole land in that group Rocky are in that group His look his firm. They do a great job. I like that. I like when Guys get people that they trust that they believe in and that's what it comes down to because when you deal with this it's all about trust oh Joe a lot of people don't think about some color or whatever the case may be that's fine I ain't got nothing to do with it when it come to this type of

money on when it comes to this type of money and transactions you need somebody in your corner you can trust because there are too many horror stories of people getting burned. Too many horror stories, Dom. The fact that nothing has changed with the percentage of players that are able to attain their money well within two years removed from the game is ridiculous. It's almost well into 90%. That all comes down to the team and the people surrounding you before you get paid, That all comes down to the team and the people surrounding you before you get paid, why you're being paid, and once you're done, planned. You got to have agents or people you trust in your corner that are there for right reasons.

Not just why you're planning. Not just because there's been an issue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. And you got to have somebody that's going to be there in your corner when you're done. I've had the same agent for 29 years. I've got Marvin Demuff in 96 and he's been my agent ever since. And I don't do anything, I run it by him because he's gonna be, he's gonna shoot me straight. Because at the end of the day, he won't, I know this man wants what's best for me.

David Mugaleta has Jordan Love, CJ Stroud, as we mentioned, he got Jordan Ramsey. Deshaun Watson, that fully guaranteed $230 million, he also has Jalen Ramsey. So he's done an unbelievable job protecting his clients, getting them the... Ramsey was the highest paid at one point in time. Deshaun Watson had the most guaranteed money for a long, long time. Right. He was the highest paid. Justin Fields just got two years, $40 million, based on five starts, what, six starts last

year on Joe. Jordan Love is going to get a, I think Jordan Love already got paid. CJ Stroud is about to get a boatload of money after this year. If he, if he, if if he replicate what he did is here Yeah You don't get it he don't get he don't get a big he gonna get a Hello T Higgins with David Mugaleta to it. No, he's rock. He will rock. He and I had a tea will rock your arsenal Yeah, he just went rough because he was with David Mugaleta. And see David Mugaleta don't cut no deals.

Oh no. David Mugaleta don't cut no deals. And that's why it says that if you want to stay here, which at the end of the day, the agent is going to do what you want him to do because he works at the behest of you. Excuse me. What's up everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal and I'm teaming up with the king of spring, Daniel Jeremiah.

He requires me to say that. We're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season from DJ's mock drafts to my top one on one free agents will have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday, keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL draft. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield

in Bone Valley Season One. I just knew him as a kid. Long silent voices from his past came forward. And he was just staring at me. And they had secrets of their own to share. Um, Gilbert King? I'm the son of Jeremy Lynn Scott. I was no longer just telling the story. I was part of it. Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil. I was becoming the bridge between a killer and the son he'd never known. If the cops and everything would have done their job properly, my dad would have been in jail. I would have never existed.

I never expected to find myself in this place. Now, I need to tell you how I got here. At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer. Bone Valley, Season 2. Jeremy. Jeremy, I want to tell you something. Listen to new episodes of Bone Valley, Season 2, starting April 9th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear the entire new season ad free with exclusive content starting April 9th, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple podcasts. He works at the behest of you. David Mugaleta, like bro, what we try to do, and see this

is what baseball players do. They're not going to give you no deal, Lucho, because they're sitting the market for the guy that comes behind them. That's why Shohei Otani got 700. Juan Soto says, I got to go higher. I got to keep bumping it up. I got to keep climbing. Ain't no discounts. He wanted to stay in Cincinnati.

He knew in order for him to stay, he would have to take a discount. David Mugaleta understands that I'm actually trying to increase the market because I'm not, yes, I want to do what's in the best interest of my client, but I also want this market to keep rising. Right. So you think David's probably suggesting that he leave.

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Because he knows he would have got more than a one year deal and he'd have got probably two to three years fully guaranteed. Right. Because what about the other receivers? Because you got to think about what about the other receivers? Because now, other receivers come out and they're going to be looking like, well, hold on, you just saw T Higgins, what he got?

He was free too. Yeah. And so they try to put you against each other because that's what you left. Hold on, you just saw T Higgins with E guy, he was free too. Yeah. And so they try to put you against each other because that's what you left, that's the chip. I don't know who the next big time receiver coming out, but I'm looking at Chase. I'm looking at what Chase got. I'm not looking at what, oh, well you see what T did,

or I don't care what T did, that's on T. I saw what Chase got, and I'm up, and I want to get it. It's probably gonna be Puka. I Think it's gonna be Puka. Oh Joe Cuz he was a late round pick. He's going into his third year. They're gonna do something with him after this year After this year this early. Yeah, but listen if the Rams are smart they'll do it. They'll do it this early He won't get as much as chase though. But here's the thing though, Ocho. He's going into his third year as a late round draft pick. He only got three years.

Oh, he only got three or four years. Three. Oh, matter of fact, you know what they might do too? What's that? The middle of the season, if he having one hell of a season and putting the numbers up and going crazy, they might catch him in the middle of the season. No, I'm good. I don't do the middle season. I like to stay focused.

Yeah, I know what you mean. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I like to stay focused. And y'all talking about money, I can't stay focused, Ocho. I mean, you know what? They gonna let you focus. That's why they just talk to your agent.

They let the agent take care of all that. But if you balling out, which I'm assuming he's probably gonna to do, I'm not sure how many catches or production that Devontae Adams will probably take away from him. But man, they finna go bananas. And I hope they use Devontae Adams the right way. I hope they don't do what they did to God damn Cooper Cupp understanding how they worked him out of the offense and putting Puka Nakua in the positions that Cooper Cupp used to

be in. Well, what happened was, you remember the first year Pooka got there, Cooper got hurt. Yeah. The second year, he missed some time also. So now they say, well, we got concerns about your durability and availability. You know, the best ability you have is availability. Availability, yeah. And that's what I tell guys, they will move on to you. You've never been injured, but you saw, see,

you've been in locker rooms where guys have been injured and it's almost like that guy ain't even on the team. One thing about it, think about the NFL in general. People in the chat, think about the NFL in general and how great some of the players are or were just in the history of the game in general and you always think about it and everybody's replaceable. Sometimes in life I hear people say oh I'm not replaceable you're never gonna find nothing like me. You imagine? That'll mean they won't be looking. Hey man there's always

Something else out there Always and this is when it comes to receivers. They might not be as great as Jerry Rice They might not be great as Randy Moss. They might not be great as Terrell Owens But there's always someone out there that would be able to fill the production. Maybe not as much But they get the job done Team look they're gonna tolerate behavior until they can replace behavior. Yeah, absolutely. Bro, they traded Jerry. They cut Jerry Rice. They traded Joe Montana. They cut Emmett Smith. Yeah.

Hold on. Lou Smith. Do I need any other greats? All the greats on all of them. Very few have been able to finish their career where they where they want to. Very few have been able to do it. Larry Figero. You won't. I only have to be there.

They let Tom Brady walk. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Hey, that's the prime example of it. Nobody's been able to do it. Larry Figero was able to know Having a luxurious career great career and one place And always it always be in good stance with management and ownership. Yeah Yeah, you see damn Moreno play at one place with 16 16 17 years

John played in one place for 16 years that doesn't happen. That doesn't happen often. You see paid better. They got paid many. I was just going to say you took it right out of my mouth. Yeah. Some of the greats. So that's what they, that's what they do. That's what they do. So Brian Scharphammer, Olly drops some inside information about Kyle

Emery today. He says the former Cardinals offensive line coach and new Dallas offensive COC, Clay Adams told him Kyle Murray never really wanted to run. Ocho, what do you make of this? I like it. I like it. I think for dual threat quarterbacks that as people that are scouts or in positions of power they will view dual do-threat quarterbacks as running quarterbacks. I know Kyle Murray short. I know he's dynamic with his legs in extending plays and doing things off script, but I want to be known as a first throw quarterback.

And how do you do that? By extending plays, by being able to go through the process of reading from one, two, and three, or maybe four sometimes sometimes and only running when you have to. And I'm sure maybe that's a conversation he had with him, which is why he came out and said it. If that's some college working on and wanting to be a throw first quarterback, then so be it. Look what Lamar Jackson's been able to do.

Look how he has come and gotten so much better at, you know what, I'm going to be a throw the ball first and I'm only going to run the ball unless I have to as opposed to looking at my first read, my first read not there, I've taken off. I think that for me, Ocho, what makes Kyle Murray scary is his legs. Don't know about a pure Kyle Murray arms. I just don't. But you know what? I like that you said that, but he can't throw the ball.

He can. His anticipatory skills are very good. And then you got Marvis Harrison, Marvis Harrison Jr. You don't have to run the ball no more. Yeah, he does, Ocho. Because here's the thing, is that he's an undersized quarterback,

and what makes him dynamic, and what makes him lethal is his legs So it's the same thing to rg3 ran into rg3 like I don't want to run his daddy went in there said I wanted to be paid manning. I wanted to be tom brady when he when he was never that Right. I mean ocho is like all of a sudden ocho you vegan Hold on one. Can you let me build up to it? Hell i've been eating meat for 25 years and all of a sudden you tell me now,

I gotta cut a chicken, I gotta cut a fish, I gotta cut a seafood, I gotta cut an all animal protein and go strictly plant-based. Can I get some time to build up to that? I'm not saying that eventually you can't build up to that, but I'm saying to do this cold turkey, damn! Nah, it's a process. It's a process.

It's a process. Hey listen, everything you just named right there, everything you just named, is that you have to exclude that from your diet if you become vegan? Yeah. Oh my god. Hey, I'm not trying to be funny and no disrespect to anybody that's in the chat that might be vegan or that might see this clip, but that sounds miserable. And you gotta stop eating hoo-haa too. That, sounds miserable. And you gotta stop eating hoo-ha too.

Yeah stop eating hoo-ha. It ain't meat ain't it? I ain't got nothing to do with it. I mean it yeah depending on who it is yeah. No more booty holes either. No more rump roasts. You been eating rump roasts for a long time. Done and done, that's done. Dead, D-O-A dead on arrival. Hey, that's funny. I don't see how people do it. And I mean, no disrespect. I don't know how people, you know, choose to be vegan.

I don't know how people choose to be a vegetarian. And I don't know how people choose to be, what else, what's the other one? You mean pescatarian? I said it, I said it, pescatarian that's what I said. Okay, you got that. What's another one? You got vegetarian, vegan, vegetarian it's like sometimes you could eat like maybe we eat fish or maybe eggs. Vegan is dead. It's all plant-based.

Plant-based, excuse me. Hey, how do you live like that, huh? I'm just saying in general. I mean, they say what you gotta give up on your no toes. You can't lick on no toes, no elbows, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying. There's nobody in this chat, or anyone that is vegan, vegetarian, or, what's the last one?

Vegetarian, vegan or pescatarian? Yeah, there's no way you can tell me you're actually happy with your choice in diet. And you gotta be miserable. You can't. It's impossible. The food is too good. It's too good Oh, don't your boy you you were in last law, huh? And what? vegan

No, I wouldn't I wouldn't even try there's no point. There's no point. There's no point I'm not sure what people are trying to do it out Maybe I want to be a little more healthy or whatever it is You can burn on your diet. Maybe maybe for health reasons But I just can't do it you eat what you want to eat, you know Anything whatever's gonna happen to you gonna happen to you no matter what no matter what you do Yeah, you're right about that But I guess I think the thing is is that you know once Kyler got injured and he looked at it I got injured running the football. I didn't get injured in the pocket. I got injured running the football.

So maybe that played a role into it. Look, I don't think any quarterback wants to run. I want to put some ball in somebody else's hand. Hell, I want to do as little work as possible. But I think the thing that makes him so dynamic, the same thing that makes Lamar. Now Lamar doesn't run nearly, he... Excuse me.

Lamar runs as a last resort. Yeah. Not as a first option. Right. And his game elevated. But if you see the process and the steps that it took for him to get to where he is now, now people upset, run Lamar, damn. Yeah. And he said his mom, he said his mom told him, boy, run the damn ball.

Get your ass out of the pocket and run. Do what you do best. Yes. But I like the fact that he's evolved and become a pocket passer first. Matter of fact, he'll go through his progression and go from one to three and come all the way back to one before he take off. Yes. If he runs the ball, he's running at the last. Now, hey, I would never play him too man, because the last thing I want him to do is jump out the window take off my everybody turn they back

No, man, please. Yeah, I gotta have eyes on him me personally. I gotta have eyes on him Hey, if anything, listen, you play too man to have a spy. Yeah, but who's that spy gonna be? Xavier worthy You ain't been to catch him. Hey, that's my, yeah. I can only think of two linebackers. I can only think of two middle linebackers in the NFL that would be successful at spying Lamar Jackson based on their athletic ability and then being

able to batter Lee Fred Warner. I'm not saying he's fast enough. I'm saying his ability to close the gap and be able to make tackles without, without getting shook. Franklin, Franklin and Zaire Franklin. No, Hilda. Fred Warner, stay with me now. And there's one more that's very small and athletic. He can move sideline and sideline. Golly, it was right on the tip of my tongue.

Fred Warner, Zaire Franklin. God, I just had it, I just had it, it was right on tip of my tongue Fred Warner is I hear Franklin Guy I just had it. I just had it was right there He's small and undersized, but boy he can go I don't come to me. Hey man Lamar go me. Oh Milano Milano. That's what I'm from Buffalo. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to think about Milano before the injury. Yeah I don't know what we talk about. I line the sideline and coming downhill. Wait, man He better he better be what you call him. He better be a have some body leg cuz Lamar gonna make somebody tear some stuff Oh, yeah, you're the last thing you know, man. He won't start and stop and I'm out

Yeah, but hey, Kyle never really wanted to run. I don't think most quarterbacks want to run. And shit, them licks hurt. Them licks hurt. So, and you're not, they're not used to taking licks like, you know, blood shots. Right, right. So that's the last thing that you want to do. But glad he shared that with us. What's up everyone?

It's Greg Rosenthal and I'm teaming up with the king of spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that. We're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs mock drafts to my top 101 free agents, we'll have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday, keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL draft. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle

Schofield in bone Valley season one. I just knew him as a kid. Long silent voices from his past came forward. And he was just staring at me. And they had secrets of their own to share. Um, Gilbert King, I'm the son of Jeremy Lynn Scott. I was no longer just telling the story. I was part of it.

Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil. I was becoming the bridge between a killer and the son he'd never known. If the cops and everything would have done their job properly, my dad would have been in jail. I would have never existed. I never expected to find myself in this place. Now, I need to tell you how I got here.

At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer. Bone Valley Season 2. Jeremy. Jeremy, I want to tell you something. Listen to new episodes of Bone Valley Season 2 starting April 9th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear the entire new season ad free with exclusive content starting April 9th, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple podcasts. Chief fans points out the NFL changes the rules the last two times the Buffalo Bills lost. Buffalo did not win the overtime game. Hey, my homeboy got the ball first. They never saw the ball. Buffalo didn't get a first down. Now we see.

Oh God. Yeah. Measure the ball. Is it, is it, is it coincidental you think? Is it coincidental? No. Because listen, too many coincidences happen. Too many coincidences is not a coincidence.

Ah, I like that. I like that. And now they be taking a step further. So now moving forward, they have adopted the college rules. Every team possesses the ball. Now they did take, what is it? 10 minutes? I think 10 minutes is on the clock.

I think, but that was the over all the old Overtime rule right or did they increase it since everybody's getting the ball I'm not sure But a lot of teams because it used to be okay over time with sudden death First team get to you you score you kick a field goal boom you win the game Then they say nah if you kick a field goal the other team get a chance to score a touchdown A beat score. Yeah And so now it doesn't matter what happens you could score a touchdown

But the other team will get an opportunity to possess the football. Do you like that rule? Oh, I love it I think it's fair. I think it's fair instead of putting the onus on the defense now We have no choice but to make a stop if they get the ball first and win the coin toss Allow our team allow our offense to get the ball as well If you guys happen to get a field goal or get a touchdown give us a chance Give us a chance to put your defense out there and force them to make a stop just like we had to make a stop But we couldn't do it I think I think it evens the playing field makes the game fair as opposed to most of the time with a team like Kansas City

Winning the coin toss and overtime if they win the coin toss Man, listen nine times out of ten They're going to get some points. It's gonna be if it ain't seven. It's gonna be three So you like you like to rule both teams possessing the football. I like it. I like both teams getting the opportunity on My question is Yeah, okay. Yeah, so because in college you score. Yeah. Now you place the ball on the 25.

NFL you score, you're going to have to kick it off because, hey, somebody might run the kickoff back. On back, yeah. You see, the thing is, Ochoa, is that the rule, especially if... I would always defer. Because that way it gives me an opportunity to know cuz fourth down I'm lying Yeah, you see what happened with the 49ers. I don't know why they took the ball first And then cuz they know they were under the assumption if they scored first. Yeah Yeah, they want to put the pressure. They want to put the pressure on the change

Yeah, you put the pressure on the team by scoring a field goal and that they know what they got to do They go keep going for the fourth down right they get down every time no I want I want to know what I need this I want to know what I need in order to beat you because I know I okay I get a field goal boom boom boom I know I'm cool I'm cool right but I like I like the thought process, Shannon Han, especially in a situation like that. You think about Super Bowl, it's a precious situation. You know?

How can we put the Chiefs back against the wall? You know what, we gonna take the ball from them. Not by scoring three. Exactly, but not scoring three. I'm gonna hope, I'm going to hope that Brock Purdy and those boys can go down there and get a seven. If you can get a seven.

Well, the game would have been over. The game would have been over. Oh, that's right. I'm tripping. Now, they changed the rule this year. Now is that both people get an opportunity to possess it like the old college did. And so now both teams score. If there's time, I think in this situation, Ocho, I honestly think, there're probably gonna be more ties.

Whoa, whoa, ties? Nah. Yeah, cause it's not like a playoff game, Ocho, if you're tied to overtime, you keep going. If you're tied after the overtime, it's over. Well, it depends on how many over times we be talking about. It don't matter if you don't give a one. One percent, it depends on how many over times we've been talking about. It doesn't matter if you don't give a one.

Oh, that's okay. I don't like that. Now that's boring. And that I don't like. In the playoffs, you know, somebody got his global cup, somebody got an advance, but in the regular season, it's not like that. Okay. So, you know, that's how that's basically, that's basically like

soccer in the regular season. Yeah. Game in one, one, that's it. Unless it's some type of championship or tournament where someone has to advance to the regular season. Yeah. Game in, one-one, that's it. Unless it's some type of championship or tournament where someone has to dance in the next round. Yeah. Okay. I don't like that.

You don't like that? No, I don't like that. No, no. Girl, you want somebody to play it to their width. Exactly. And we don't need no draws. Hey, you want somebody, man, you want the juggies to be out there. Now what if they got to play on Thursday night and they go three overtimes?

See? Oh, okay. that's right. But also think about the gambling. Think about the gambling. Now you add the dynamic and the aspect of, you know what? If you get the draw right, or two team draw. You gonna lose, cause if you either lose or you gonna push, because here's the thing,

normal time the spread is always a half. Yeah. Cause you know, your team can't score two and a half, normal time the spread is always a half. Yeah. Because you know, your team can't score two and a half, they can't get three and a half. Right. See that message every, from a gambling. It does. So Vegas is not too happy about this, but hey.

But it's going to be interesting to see. Hey, Buffalo, y'allall gotta build the right side of history Hey, hey, nobody y'all had a lead with 13th. Listen, Oh Joe You deserve to lose if you have a lead with 13 seconds and you allow a team to get in field goal range You deserve to lose you earned that loss Why would you why would you leave the open side of the field open like that Ocho? And not, you got to press somebody. And you see Travis Kelsey and my homeboy talking. He's like, Oh, hold on. Ain't nobody want to cover him, Trav. So y'all just go give

him a free run. This lady off the ball just scott free. All he does is belly. He puts it on him and now he runs now, and he gets that book call timeout in Buckner. Bye bye. Yeah, but that's exactly what all happened. Now you get the overtime, you don't get them. Now, you've already let them get a rhythm, Ocho. Cause remember, they just went and got field goal

range in 13 seconds. You lose the coin, Charles. They're in the rhythm. And you see Mahon will go pathetic. 13 seconds. You lose the coin, Charles. They're in a rhythm And you see my home will go pathetic boom boom boom boom boom Right down the field and it's over So You know A part of me does like it because you know both teams get to possess the ball

But damn defense, you know, they're playing the defense guy, you know, uh, Miles Garren making 40 million, they got a DB making 30 million. Damn. Stop them. I ain't saying you gotta keep my hands on, but just keep them to a field goal. Yeah. You been, but don't break. Right. So that's the, the, the, the chief fan, this is what the chiefs are saying.

But damn, every time Buffalo, they want Buffalo to get to the Superbowl so bad, they change the rules, they help him. And guess what? They go find another way to lose. You can't keep running the same play. It would, me personally, Ocho, and I've seen it, I don't think he got it.

I don't think he got the first down. Oh, we know he didn't get the first down. They done showed every different kind of it, but in fact, he would have got the first down. We know he didn't get the first down. They then showed every different kind of it. When the fact, he would have got the first down, obviously, if he wasn't in that scrum, and he could have reached the ball out. Yes, but he understood. Reaching the ball out, they knock it out. You don't get the same protection as the goal line, because the field of play is not the goal line. You can't do this like, oh, I reached it over the first down, Marcus.

Somebody knock it out your hand, and then they whoop, gone. And that's the only reason he didn't get the first down because he had to keep the ball or get his body protected. Things have gotten spicy between Chad's Ocho Cinco Johnson Bengals and Hendrick, Trey Hendrickson. First, executive VP, Katie Blackburn said this on yesterday. It is on him to be happy at some point. And that's, that's, he thinks he should be happy at a certain point rates that maybe he doesn't think he'd be happy at.

Henderson told that MacAfee today, he thought it was a for fools joke. Henderson's caused the comments confusion because he'd been talking to the team about a long-term deal for the last few years. And it was communicated to him that there this something would get done this off season. There's a little disappointing because communication has been poor over the last couple of months. That's something I hold high regard.

They have not communicated with my agent directly. It's been something that's been a little bit frustrating. As you said, he does not have any desires to be the highest paid or the first in line. And he's been patient. It's possible. But made it clear that he's looking for incentives that will be out of my control or a short-term deal, given his stated desire for a long-term contract that includes guaranteed money. stated desire for a long-term contract that includes guaranteed money.

35 specs the last two years, you're the first team all pro. He led the league last year with 17 and a half. And this year. That's tough. That's tough. I think the Bengals in a tough spot. Trey Henderson is in a tough spot. Bangle fans in a tough spot.

The organization is in a tough spot. You know, how you pay, you know, your quarterback 55, you pay your wide receiver. Howdy. One A, 40. You pay your wide receiver one B. 30. 35, 30, whatever it may be. And now you have Trey Henderson who deserves to be paid

within the top three, top five at his position. How do you pay him as well? I Don't know I'm not a little pay Paul Now well, we're with Peter what a money first of all Peter and Paul already robbed you Yeah, and then that you know you listen to the comments that he says about no not one to be the highest paid Well the comments that Katie made as well, Katie says, well, you need to be happy. Was that my doorbell?

Right. And then my two left out. Oh, oh, well, yeah, maybe, um, Katie saying that maybe you need to be happy with the rate that we're offering, you know, on the deal that that that has been set or given to you. But again, you understand that when it comes to the business side of things, which is why agent is needed, they always lowball you, you know, and that's when negotiations have to happen. So listen, I hope both sides get some done.

If Trey Henderson isn't able to play with the Bengals, he's had one hell of a career here. He's been a tremendous player, not just on the field, but in the community as well. So I really wanted to get what he deserves, even if it's not with us. I think so too, Ocho. The problem that I have is that the contract is only binding when you wanna renegotiate or break it. When they want to, when they cut you because you haven't performed,

there ain't no contract. There ain't no issues. And the fans don't come to your defense either. No. But we don't. But let you ask for more money. Let you hold out. Let you have gripes and situations about what you think you deserve based on your value and the work you've put in.

Oh, but you all type of selfish and devout and disgruntled at that. You're right. That's always been the nature of the business. For some reason, I'm not sure how it happened or what fans have always thought because their heart and their loyalty is to the team. And I'm not sure how owners have fooled the fans into believing that the players are the bad ones. They do. I'm not sure how they've done it but they because they frame it like we're doing everything we possibly can you know that with the

salary cap is what it is and what we try to do we pay everybody a quarterly I know y'all got a check for 400 million. What's the salary cap on y'all? Now, I'm saying when you do what ESPN and Fox and Amazon and what Netflix gave you and what CBS gave you, okay, I know what those corporate sponsors are paying you. Now, that's just from the national side. You got your own TV deal locally. You got your own radio deal locally. You'll have your own local advertising deals locally. You have concession. You have merchandise.

Merch. Yeah. Don't get me started. There's so many different avenues of revenue that teams are bringing in, and it's something that people don't even know about. Yeah. Like when you get the term, Ocho, they say buckets. This is why they use the term buckets. There's so many buckets. There's the network bucket, which is CBS and ESPN, Fox, Amazon, NBC.

That's a bucket. And then you get Nike Deal. That's a bucket. And then you get Nike deal. That's a bucket. Yeah. You got both heads, uh, both heads. That's a bucket. Hold on. What about the stadium name?

What about the stadium naming rights? Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Uh, uh, what is AT&T? Uh, board feel high Martin. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. What is AT&T? Board Field.

High Martin. Yeah. Mercedes-Benz. Yes. So, that's the only thing I don't like about it. I look, I got a problem. And my thing is, okay, I'll sign a contract and I'll honor it. As long as you honor it too.

sign a contract and I'll honor it. As long as you honor it too. What's up everyone. It's Greg Rosenthal and I'm teaming up with the King of Spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that. We're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents. The only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season from DJ's mock drafts to my top one-on-one free agents. We'll have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday,

keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL draft, listen to forties and free agents on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley season 1. Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh he's a killer. He's just straight evil. I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known. At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.

Listen to new episodes of Bone Valley season 2 starting April 9th on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.