Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Unc, Ocho, and Iso Joe react to Every NFL Team’s most hated player!

Episode Date: August 16, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to every NFL Team’s most hated player, Wayne Rooney vs Tom Brady controversy and Halle Berry takes a shot at her ex on instagram, and much more! 0:00 - Shemar Stewart on accidentally hitting Joe Burrow in practice3:48 - Every NFL Team’s Most Hated Player5:55 - Manchester United Legend Wayne Rooney v Brady13:55 - Regina Hall and Anna Ferris coming back for Scary Movie 617:40 - Halle Berry v David Justice30:26 - Women on dating app have height requirements of 6’0 and up37:50 - NCAA vs. University of Michigan40:54 - Q & Ayyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Shemar Stewart said he lost his balance on the play that knocked over Joe Burrow and called the fight in practice. I said, you know Joe, it was an accident. You know I never meant to do that. He said it's cool as long as you do it on

Sundays, too. He kept it cool, short and sweet, and we just forgot about it. I slipped. Next time, I should just fall out of the way or something. I've learned. Yeah, Ocho, we said it. He slipped. He got out balance. Things happened, man. He didn't mean to do it. The guard with the guard was late, getting back on the stunt. And when he pushed him, he pushed him all balance. And Joe just happened to be right

there in front of him. So it wasn't nothing he could do. I like, I like what Joe said, though. I'm not tripping. Lord, you do that on Sunday? I'm cool. Hey, things happen, man. You know, you're in. practice guys be, you know, amped up to go against each other. Yeah. You know, some, some things kind of, it looked like in football, it stays

spiraling out of control. Y'all, y'all can't wait to, oh, you got to still the end, Joe. Oh, absolutely. Hey, Joe, it's a fight every, every joint practice, Joe. Every joint practice. It don't matter what you say, they're going to fight. Everyone. Joe, do you understand football on its premise is about

moving a man against his will? Yeah. See, y'all try to go around somebody. That ain't what we're trying to do. This is my plot of land. I'm going to drop anchor here. The hell you say, you're going to get up out of here. No, I ain't.

Yeah. No, no, no. The hell you say. Yeah. It's a real gladiator. It's all about, it's all about intimidation. It's about, it's about, it's about, it's about, it's about, it's about, I'm not worried about you in the first and the second quarter.

Because I'm going to see, back then they would do that buzz by. They was worried about you in the fourth. Because they're going to buzzer. in the first half, they're going to buzz you. They're going to hit you, but you're going to know. Come fourth quarter, whoo, woo, woo, woo, woo. All right, all right, hey, all right, you know I had you. Yeah, you, you're right.

Sean Borman caught this video of J.J. McCarthy screened past Aaron Jones. Watch this blocking from Donaldman Jackson. yeah i got it i got it oh got the way boy and they're supposed to be they're supposed to be thudden up or there was that all all out hey it's thud up but you better hey you better drop you better drop you You better sink your hips. And it's hard with somebody running full speed, Ocho, even if you drop your hips. That momentum.

Yeah. That dude running. That dude running. And you had a standstill. Hey, that's what you just, hey, you drop your hips and try to explode through it. Because he's going to run you over. That would night. That would nice, yeah.

That's what's going to happen. That would not. You'll see, man, y'all always play. on the edge. Yeah, yeah. It's like every time you look, it's a scuffle, it's this summer. Like, it's like,

y'all got too much testosterone out there. Those dudes can't wait. Yeah, you're right. You're right. That's why I say some of the, and that's why I say some of the pranks that they be playing in the NBA. You can do it in the NFL.

That ain't, hey, oh, Choate, they ain't going to fly, mm-mm, mm-mm. Y'all gonna be fighting for real. Mm-mm. Oh, no. That's why,

I think that's why I tell people, everybody don't play how you play now. Absolutely. Someone posted every NFL fan base's most hated player. Can you see it, Ocho? Yeah. The Bears is Aaron Rogers. The Bengals is Lamar Jackson.

Buffalo is Patrick Mahomes. The Broncos is Patrick Mahomes. Cleveland is Deshaun Watson. The most hated players, the guy that sold his team. Damn. Tampa Bay is Marshaun Lamp. The Cardinals is Josh Rosen. The Chargers is Patrick Mahomes.

The Chiefs is Josh Allen. The Colts is Tom Brady. Aaron Rogers is for the Cowboys. And you can see the list. The Eagles is Debo Samuels. Tom Brady is Atlanta. Tom Brady is the Jets. The Jags is Derek Henry.

The Giants is Doc, Dak Prescott. The Ravens got Bernard Pollard. How Bernard Pollard? Paul did it. Most hated. What is they're wrong? I don't know. Cortland Fittigigett again.

Most hated. Ain't it? Any surprises up there? Not at all. Obviously, some of the hated players of those that always beat your team over time, and then some of the players that didn't play well or things didn't

out at said team. This is the dope. list. And it's understandable. I mean, if you watch the game of football, it's understandable why players are the most hated by specific teams. And I like that one who came over there, because they spot on

all the way through. I just, I don't understand that Bernard Paula will know. I don't either. I guess the Ravens just don't like it. He gave up a touchdown or something because they got Josh Rosen for the Cardinals. They got Deshawn Watson for the Brown. They got Debo for the Eagles.

What Debo did to the Eagles? Don't start to be letting. Josh Rosen, they expected them to pan out and things didn't work out. So I think Josh Rosen and Deshaun Watson is self-explanatory on why they're the most hated. Hey guys, it's AZ Fudd.

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Now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I agree. Manchester United Legend, Wayne Rooney, here's back at Tom. Brady. I don't think he really understands football. Brady, who's part owner of Birmingham criticized Rooney's work ethic as a manager. Ocho, was Tom wrong to publicly criticize Wayne Rudy? No, no. I mean, I mean, no. I think he is wrong, having a great understanding who Wayne Rooney is, what he's done in the past when he picked at Man United, when he was with when he was with Prasana Rinaldo and some of the greats that came to there to have the success

that it did at Man United, it takes a certain understanding of discipline and knowing what it takes to actually win. And I'm sure he's taking that same role that he has over in Birmingham as well. I think the way Tom views it when it comes to football and American football, there's a complete difference in the way they go about doing business and handling business when it comes to training and working. So, I mean, the comparison is really not the same. And we're talking to someone who's done it at the highest level for one of the biggest clubs, you know, in, in Europe. So I kind of don't like, like, Tom, really not being there long enough to be able to make that kind of assessment.

What do you think? You're a soccer, you're a soccer for you? I don't know, I don't know, but I don't know what you. I've been to a soccer game here in Atlanta, though. If you've heard that thing because, if you've never been. been. I don't know you a big soccer head, but I don't know about you.

If you've never been, you got to go to one, you got to go to one of them games, bro. I heard they be live. Oh, man. Hey, look, they, hey,

I'm, I'm going to be honest, it's probably more, a little liver than a Falcons game. Wow. They be packed to the top. They don't be playing in that, man.

It's serious. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I've been there. I've been there. It's nice. Hey, Joe,

but you got to, experience a game in Europe, Joe. Joe, I love, I love the NFL. The Super Bowl is our biggest sporting event here in the States. A regular Premier League game. It's a regular game. It makes the Super Bowl look like child's play. So if I can get you, I'm just saying, see, this is this, see, this is where our

streaming come in, our show. the version of of nightcap the adventures of Unk Joe and Ocho

we go to Europe and go to let's say I'm just throw this out there Anfield to watch Liverpool play

I'm just going to throw that out there and then we in the stands you and you and Unk don't know

what the hell going on and all of a sudden everybody stand up the players coming out the goddamn

tunnel and the whole stadium starts singing you'll never walk alone everybody holding up

the band oh man but you you won't understand it i can sit here and explain it but until i get you in that atmosphere you got expensive and you get chills going through your body even if you don't know what the hell going on even if you don't know if you don't know the words to the song you're like oh my goodness this how it is and i'm gonna look at you like see i told you i think then when they start playing and nobody sit down they start chanting the whole game and you don't know you don't understand nothing they say and then somebody score then everybody go crazy. It's like, oh, my God. I'd be like, Joe, oh, let's

go. Oh, my goodness, dog. It's going to be crazy. I'm telling you. And we can, we can, we can, we can hop from city to city. Going to game to game. We can go to Italy. I could take it to a Napoli game. Like, man, as a matter of fact, the best

and we're going to end it, right? We're going to end it in our tour of going to soccer games. We're going to go watch a Boko Jr.'s game versus River. In Argentina. Now, you want to talk about passion and enthusiasm? Life of death?

Yeah. We go on to a Bogo Juniors and River game, baby. Hey, Ojo. I'm pretty spontaneous, man. I try something like that. You know what I mean? I like that. Yeah, it's its own.

Now, I just got to find, Unk, I got to find somebody that know how to work with this TVU backpack, now. I got this TVU backpack. It cost me $30,000, Joe. What? Yeah, it cost me $30,000. Jordan got, Jordan got, do what you got?

That backpack. What backpack, though? It's a TV, it's a streaming backpack, so you can go everywhere. Hold on, it's a streaming backpack? Yeah, Joe, yeah, Joe. Like, I'm, listen, I'm taking us the high sweet. You go get it. George, know how to work it?

They go out of camera, man, right there. They go our cameraman. man. So when we do running with the bulls, George is... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. I'm going to be in the stadium in the stadium in Pamphona. Oh, no, no. You got

you got to do it. That's the whole point of the show. Oh, Joe. No, it ain't. That's the part of the show. And you got to do running with the bulls, Joe. Oh, Joe. On which you, on which you, when you're right, but when you're on your own, I cannot. They ain't going to be out there running from no bull. Now, I'm a watch. I'll watch, but I ain't going to

better to do no running. Hey, Joe, your ladder movement is Okay, Joe. All you got to do is move. It's just a subtle movement and the bull going to miss. They ain't got, they ain't got no awareness. They ain't got no awareness. I don't seen them bulls catch a few people.

I don't see them catch a few people. Hey, Joe, the people that the bulls catch don't have no skill, no, no twitch, no nothing. Yeah, but when you're out there

with a hundred other different people and y'all just end up bumping into each other and anything can happen. No, you know how to box people out. Man, box a nigga, get a nigga up off of you, Joe. Get out of the way. I know how.

I'll just be sitting up on, I'll be sitting up on the fence already in there. Hey, I'm telling you. Hey, hold on. Hold on, you ain't going to get Uncle to do that because he got them bad hills. He ain't going to get out there like that. I know. That's what we're going to make it so fun. That's what going to make it so fun.

It ain't going to make it fun. Yeah, watch it. I'm trying to get out of the way of that goddamn bull. Hey, Uncle will already be out of the way. Up, going to be sitting up. Oh, going to be sitting up on the fence. Because, hey, look, good one. I'm going to be right with you.

Don't worry about it. Because he thinks, I'm going to be out there running from a bull. He trippling. Hey, Joe, I told him my idea two weeks ago. And listen, Joe, everybody got a podcast. Everybody creates content. Everybody, they do fun stuff going to concerts, you know. They create content, making jokes, you know, playing with people.

But Joe, ain't nobody doing what I'm talking about. Ain't nobody doing that. So it's a space of touch that we could, we could touch it and just like, oh, just take over. And it's going to shoot us out the stratosphere. Like, ooh. And now, if you want to go to the Varunga Mountains, then we're going to go see the silverbacks. Now we're talking.

I'm going to become the gorilla. I could become the guerrilla. Nah, you can't look at them at the aisle. I hear about you. Hey, that's great content. Me and the guerrilla go fight it? So y'all, y'all willing to go out there and light the rainforests and sit with silverbacks and all that.

Yeah, yeah. That's great content. Joe, I'm willing to die about this shit, Joe. See, I ain't. I ain't willing to do all that, Joe. I'm like, yeah, I ain't willing to talk about the Ocho, but listen, I, you know, I'll take a chance on a little something, something, but, uh, go and sit with some gorillas? Yeah. Man, I've been seeing them guerrillas slapping people and everything, man.

Hey, Joe, hey, Joe, when they, when they swing, all you got to do is block. Yeah, all right. Okay. Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. I'm telling you, boy, I got the vision long term, but we, we're going to. Regina Hall and Anna Farris are officially returning to Scary Movie 6.

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marking the biggest debut for an R-rated horror movie and a black director at the time. Kenan Ivory Williams wrote and directed the first two films and Marlon Williams and Sean Williams wrote and starred in the first two films. I mean, I loved it. It was an eight. Because then guess what? Everybody, everybody,

when that movie came out, everybody had the mask. that would everybody everybody was there so I'm like well who's that Ron what's the guy Courtney Cox what was the sheriff

what was the cop name do it yeah do it Hey Dewe was a little slow Wunny A little slow Yeah you're a little slow Yeah

Yeah you're trying to come out with another one Yeah The thing is funny, man. But, you know, the backdrop of the story, if you go back and watch the Marlon Williams, he said how, I think it was Harvey Weinstein and his brother, they, like, got them out of it

and they didn't write it. So you can tell. I mean, you can tell when the Williams, when they write something, and then somebody else come in and take it over because you're trying to jip them out of their money. But hopefully this is, uh, hopefully, uh,

with Kenan and Marlin and Sean back at the hell, it'll get back to its original base and be funny before they did what they did. Rapper 42 Doug says street clothes is better than designer. We spent millions on designers to just to just recently find out we look better in cheap streetwear clothes. Ocho? Who is we? Because I've been, I've been listening, who was we? I've been wearing Target and preaching about cheap stuff for the past 30 years.

But you do sprinkle some design and there. You got LB, you got Belize, yaw. I do that every so often. Every thought. But you have it. Outside of that, outside of that, I wear the same outfits over and over and over. I wear my dickies, outside of Dickies. I love the street where he talked about on Instagrams.

It's called the GV Gallery, you know, the baggy clothes. Like, that's it. Now, Target, H&M, Zara, and Urban Outfitters. That's been my attire, Joe, the past 20 years. You know, the same thing constantly. Now, every so often, Joe, I put that shit on that. You hear me, Joe? Yeah.

I go get a nice little ensemble, you know. Yeah. I want, you know, I want to. Ensemble, but yeah, yeah, we got you. My bad, my bad, my bad. But, you know, hey, Joe, you know, sometimes, you know, get a little design every boom moon, you know. Yeah.

You know, remind them, shoot, you know, I put that. Hey, look, I'm a comfort person, man. I like comfort. I don't like to be dressed out. I want to be able to move. Well, I like sweats, man. I want to be comfortable when I do something. Yeah.

Damn, Joe. You go to basketball practice? Hey, that's kind of how I feel, all? And, hey, look, unless we got something going on, I'm doing something, I'm comfortable, man. Whether, you know, I ain't trying to put on too much. Yeah. Hallie Berry suddenly clasped back at former MLB player,

former husband, David Justin, saying, you know, he was on an auto-smote podcast, and he said, one of the reason why he divorced Hallie. She didn't cook. She didn't clean and she didn't seem very motherly. So she took to her social media, check out this photo response. Hallie Barry,

puke cooking, cleaning, and mothering. Let me say this. If David wanted that type of woman, you probably shouldn't go get actress that's starting to ascend to the height of her career. Oh, she was. that she's that girl.

If you want somebody to cook, if you want a traditional woman, the likelihood of Hallie Berry, who's at the top, like, in the mid-90s, so she's starting to ascend to be that type. Now, there are women out there that cook, clean,

that I don't know her motherly skill. I don't know if you can cook. I don't know anything about that. But I'm saying if that's what he was looking for, he probably, I'm just saying probably, should have bypassed that stop and kept it moving. Because, I mean, in today's, it's even getting harder to find that.

So this was back in the 90s, Joe. Oh, you know how I am, Joe, I tell you right now, if I'm dating you, you hear me, don't you, don't come in my kitchen talk about cooking, you ain't cooking, nothing. Joe, you're not running up my gas bill, Joe. You hear me? Joe, you see, hey, Joe, you see me, Joe, you see, I keep wiping myself, right?

Yeah. If I got my laptop and my computer lined up plugged in, I'm using, that's electricity. So I'm not going to have my electricity working overtime right now

while I'm on the show right now and have the AC running. Why would I put that strain on my bill? So you don't want your woman in the kitchen cooking for you? Oh, my bad. Hell no. No, I don't,

listen, Joe, it's not a prerequisites for me to have a woman that knows how to cook. If I want to date a goddamn chef, uncle, I would date a goddamn chef. Hold on, come on, Joe. We got to be, you go, you go get us. We got the first, GEDD, the first time.

We didn't need the second one. What I said? We know you getting excited. My bad. I was just trying to get my point across. My bad. My bad. Okay, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I apologize, chat. Yeah. But, Joe, you know how I am. I'm not, I'm not with the cooking. Women love to use that, use that as a sign. but hey you should pick me because I know how to cook and I don't care about that can you balance this checkbook can you help me if I got a hundred

dollars how much of that are you adding to or are you are you are you taking away that they're more you know I'm thinking a long term Joe hey listen it's not a requirement for me Joe it's not it's not it's not a requirement but if you want to I'm not saying every day I expect a home cook meal it's not like my grandmother my grandfather breakfast when he got up in the morning he's going to get eggs he's going to get he's going to get you know he's going to get scrambled egg you're going to get grits or he's going to get oatmeal when he came home at lunch either my grandma or my aunt or my sister was sitting that plate when he hit the door and he washed his hands when he side his butt in that chair he expect that plate to be hitting

that table and when he came up out of that field and five o'clock six o'clock he expected that thing to be on the table that's not today i don't i don't expect that i've never really expected that. Have I had dating women that were able to cook? Sure. But I've never had someone that wanted to cook every night. Yeah. I agree. Was he married? Was he married to her? Yes. Yes. Was she doing this at the beginning of the relationship? Was she cooking at the beginning of the relationship? Because if she wasn't cooking in, I don't know how you thought she was just going to flip. Bro, you got, at the time, she was turning it into one of the hottest actress in Hollywood. And you think she was going to be.

be that? I think that was a conversation. You need to have a conversation. What you expect in your woman and what you expect and what the woman expecting the man. Ocho, I'm very simple. And I told Ocho this, Joe, I accept someone as they are, not how wisdom to be. So if however you, that's what you are. Now, when I don't look at you any other way, you can't be mad. So if you, If I were to have met somebody like a, like a movie star like Halliberry, do y'all really expect me to think that lady going to put her career? Because here's the thing. You're asking her like cook and clean.

That woman will have been on the set 14 hours. Yeah. Or she might be, she might be filming Ocho overseas somewhere. Yeah. No. You got a fact, you have to factor all those things in into a relationship. What does she do? Now, if you, Ocho.

If you, Ocho, you are professional. Let's just say for the sake of argument, you dating a doctor or a lawyer. So you expect her to cook and clean? No. A lot of times, if that's what you expect, she ain't going to have no job. Her job is going to be you. Yeah. I don't know, Joe.

I mean, I've always been this way. I know a lot of people like, oh, you're talking crazy. All you're talking stupid. I've always been very simple. always been very simple in all that I do and all that I actually require. I hate to bring up the pass. The people from my past don't have to cook. It's not a requirement.

I don't care anything about it. No, no. But if you want to cook, you like with you, I want to do something for you. If you're hungry, we're going to eat. Now, if there's a must, you just want to do it, then okay. But it's not necessary. Right. I ain't coming home, like, who, man, I sure wish I had some motherbrived pork shop.

Man, you know what I'm saying, don't Joe? I, hey, man, man, boy, if I haven't a little bit of Oxford. I don't know. And, can I ask you a question? Neck bones, mac and cheese, cornbread, made in the irons. Hey, Joe, I got a question for you, right? Women always say they have a, they have a saying, I don't want the bare minimum. Women, they love saying they don't want the bare minimum.

but when it comes to us you being able to cook it's given us that's just the bare minimum outside of that what else is there for you to offer I mean yeah like come

it's the bare minimum I think I think Ocho at each relationship is different at different stages I mean when I was in college I needed something different

in the NFL in the beginning I needed something different in the middle I needed something different the end I needed something different so at each stage the question is have you found that person that's willing to grow with you and change evolve with you

as you go through these processes these steps along this process that's the interesting part because Joe I was having the conversation is easier to grow the part together so it takes I mean you got to work

everybody that's ever had a I've talked to that's in a relationship or been married for the substantial amount of time. They're like, they're like, man, sharp. It's a jar. You got to work to stay together. I'm talking about every day because that person that you married or you met 15 years ago, she's not that person.

He's not that person. So you have to evolve along with them because if you don't evolve, you become extinct. You grow apart, yep. And it's easy to grow up. part. Now all of a sudden, Ocho, guess what? You're in one bedroom, she's living in the other. Now all of a sudden, you know, yeah, you're watching TV in one room, you watching TV in the other. You know, y'all talking, she talking on the phone to her friends, her family, you're talking on the

phone to your sister, your brother, your family, and y'all in the same room. Hold on, that's real That's in the movie No, that's real Ooh, woo Hey Joe Do that happen to you, Joe? How you navigate

Through situations like that, Joe? Hey, man, Ocho, I ain't had no problems I mean, I've had some, you know, relationships that didn't go well, but for the most part Take it time But for the most part, you know,

it's been pretty smooth selling over here, bro. Okay, okay, I appreciate it. So, Hey, shoot. So, like, me and me and my girl, right? Right? Yeah. So, so, and it is it best, like, for her to relocate the Miami, wrong, huh, uh-uh,

it's about that time. No, but that, look, that's, that's something that you're going to have to now. I mean, Joe. I mean, only you know. I'm trying to move life. I want to be like Joe. Oh, Ocho, you got time. You got time.

Ocho, you got to realize, Ocho, you're in the honeymoon phase. You're in the honeymoon phase. You're in the honeymoon phase. Y'all really haven't had no disagreement yet. Yeah, we had a disagreement two weeks ago. You want to know what? Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, take it time. Take it time, bro.

Take it time. Yes. Take it time. Yes. Giseth a little time, brother. Okay, okay. Now, when we talk about Gisov, some time, how much time we're talking? Because I got my watcher, also.

Let me know how much time I need. Well, no. You don't know. Only you know. Yeah. You're going to know. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. So, 2026. That's long enough? To move to move her in? Yeah. I can move.

move out there. Which one? Which one we're doing? I don't know where out there is, but okay. And I can go to the Celtic game all the time. Oh, okay, so she in Massachusetts? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're going, you, you think you, you're going to move to Massachusetts, give up your, he ain't moving no, Massachusetts. I like, I like Boston. They got, hey, they got tea. They got a lot of tea in Boston. We got a lot of other things, too. You ain't going to Boston.

Hey, hey, hold on, hold on. Hey, I lived in Boston for a good little time. Talk to me, Joe. Take your time, now. Hey, yeah. You go. All right, now. Boston, they got them now. I live in Miami, Joe.

I live in Miami all my life, Joe. I know. Nobody got it like Miami. Well, I'll let your head out. You know, you know what? This is just that. Y'all go ahead. I'm going to exit out of the conversation.

I don't feel comfortably. I don't feel comfortable talking this. Chat, I'm uncomfortable. They're making me very, very uncomfortable. Listen. Listen. Oh, Joe, take your time, brother. Hey, Joe, I don't know.

Hey, Joe, I ain't got that much time, Joe. I'm on the other side of the mountain, Joe. I don't know what time park you're living on. You got plenty of time. What you mean? Let me talk to you real quick. Listen to me, Joe. When I was in my 20s, when I was in my 30s,

when I was in my 40s, I'm on one side of the mountain, Joe. I got to the top of the mountain and I'm coming down the mountain, Joe. I ain't got that much time, Joe. I ain't got that much time, Joe. I'm telling you, boy, I'm on the back end of life, boy. In a minute, I'm gonna need somebody that's gonna be able to pick me up and wipe me, Joe, when I can't do it no more.

No, no, no, no, you need to stop. Joe, you're not understanding, Joe. We on the back end. We on the back end of life, Joe. What do you mean we? I got, I'm thinking, I'm saying, God, I know I got me about 20, 25 minutes. Hey, listen.

Oh, you're the same age. What is you talking about? Okay, I'm just saying I got me 25 songs. Hey, Joe, I'm tired, Joe. not there. I'm telling you, man. Ocho, Ocho. I believe it's the same thing over and over and over and over. Joe, I'm sick up.

It's like a merry-go-round. Joe, it don't matter where you go. It's the same result. Hey, just keep living, Ocho. Just keep living, man. I'm living, I'm living, I'm living. You can't rush that, man. You can't rush it. It didn't come to you? It came to me. See, this is the problem. Y'all don't understand when God sent you something, right?

And you'd be blocking the blessings. The man put it right there in your face for you. And you're overthinking, you analyze too much, and boom, you fuck up, and you miss out. He sent you plenty of something. Huh? Let you tell you, he said you plenty of something. He said you all with that. Okay.

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Sociologists say height filters on dating platforms can drastically reduce to match opportunities, often eliminating potential partners who may align in values, lifestyle, and compatibility. Their preference for taller partners have deep cultural roots tied to perception of protection, status, and attractiveness. Expert warns that while personal preferences are valid, narrowing dating parameters too much can lead to a misconnection and reinforce unrealistic standards in online dating culture. Now, think about Ocho, in the U.S., 3.9% of the men are 6 foot 2 or taller. Okay, so that's less than 4%. Now, let's put another filter in there.

He needs to make $100,000. Now, let's put another filter in there. He needs to be highly educated. Now, let me add another filter to you. He needs to be world travel. He likes to travel. Let me add you one more filter. need to be a man

or he'd have a man of faith go to church, religious. Now, I gave you five filters. You started out with a situation with 4% of the men. When you get down to it, Joe, and Ocho, and you factor all that in. 1%.

Now you're talking about 1% or less. Now, of that 1% or less, you got to hope you want you. Yeah. Damn, I, hey, I just, know what you're looking for. I know what you want. But what you want, does it want you? Stans us a high, boy. My grandma used to say, boy, I show could use me a good old mess of

tomato or something, but it show don't agree with me. That's a good one. I like that. So now what you want, does it want you? think about it six two are taller a hunt makes at least six figures educated travel somewhat religious i'm not saying you got to be the pope or minister or something like that but sometimes you know you see a lot of faith uh i want somebody god fearing i want faith base so i just gave you five filters only four percent of the population in the u.s of men six two or taller. Now I added a hundred plus thousand. Now I added

this, this, this, and this. You're talking about half a percent, a percent, or less. And all the women that put that in there, you got to hold that it wants you in there. Guess what? Uncle Ocho. He probably he probably ain't on no date now.

And what hold on, what about this? Kids. What if he got kids? I don't want nobody. No man with a kid. shit you ain't okay what if he don't want no woman with a kid hey so I see exactly what they're saying you miss a lot of the opportunity well I don't want that our my grandma I'd never forget this story my grandmother she really loved this man she loved this gentleman he'd go to church he was

everything that my grandmother wanted My aunt came home and said she had broken up with him. My grandma said, I don't know why you left that good man. I remember just like yesterday. This had to be 1970, 67, my aunt told my grandma, mama, they plenty fishing to see. My grandma ain't bad an eye. She said, yeah, but you might not catch him. Hmm.

Yeah. Yeah. Next time you see my brother, Ocho, ask him about that story. Mama, they plenty fish in the sea. Granted ain't bad or not. Yeah, you might not catch him. Hey.

Boy. And you know what's funny, too, when I think about it, Joe? What's it? You think about, Unks said, the percentage, the 1% of the expectation. that he just used, I think it might be less than 1%. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure.

When you start talking about a man six foot two, you start talking about a man six foot two or taller. You're talking about a man that makes six figures. You're talking about a man that has a college degree. You're talking about a man that potentially likes to travel. You're talking to a man that has somewhat of a religious faith-based background. I'm not saying he goes to church every Sunday. I'm not saying he's practiced, but I'm saying he's somewhat to make you that the lady

It feels comfortable. Yeah. You shrunk that pool so small. Now you're picking from this, that tiny, tiny pool. But that pool, though, he gets to cast his neck in a big pool. Oh, so now you're speaking different now. Yeah. The women, the women that love the athletes, they love the rich men, the men of status,

the men that have millions. When you have to, you understand, I think they already know. I think they already know I look good. I look fine. So I'll be able to get at least one of those, at least one of them. And, you know, it's fun, obviously. And the people that have that kind of money on, they understand, okay, this is nothing I can take serious. This is just fun.

It's how they view and think. That's how they view and think the mindset is at some times, you know, to slip up and they get caught in 18 years where it can work. Yeah. You get where I'm going. I get you. It's tough, it's tough. It's tough.

How you see why I'm waving the white flag and I'm trying to get up out of here? I'm trying to get about the game because I'm ascending. I'm ascending again. So I'm trying to get up out of here, Joe. Hey, hey, keep ascending. And you know, that time will come, man, when you When you feel like you need to make that next one. I talked to God yesterday.

I talked to God yesterday. He said, yeah, young fella. What did we talk about not too long ago, but all the people that are married? You notice what's going on for them and how life is, for some reason, the blessings is come up out of nowhere. Yeah.

Man, stop playing. Joe, I ain't got time to play, Joe. Hey, but you can't force it, though, Ocho. Can't force it to rush it. I ain't force nothing. Hey, listen, I put everything together like Legos. If it don't fit, I put it down. If it don't fit, I put it down, but it fit right now.

The NCAA announced discipline for the Michigan Wolverines football program for a variety of infractions, most notably off-campus in-person scouting schemes spearheaded by former staffer. The NCAA tab for the Michigan case could range of $30 million. 10% of the football program budget fine is at least $7.2 based on the $72 million that they spent in 2024 on the football. football budget. A two-year postseason five is expected to be at least 20 million, but could easily get more than 25 million with the college football playoff revenue changes in 2026. A 10% scholarship awarded is more than $800,000 a dollar. Oh, Joe, Joe, what is your take on sign stealing? Is it chess or do you despise it? I mean, it's cheating. It's frowned upon

in any sport, in any game. If I'm mistaken, I think the Houston Nashville's had an incident like this in the world. I'm mistaken, the banging on the side of the bullpen or whatnot. But to me, honestly, even with you knowing what the signs are, even with you knowing what players

are coming, it's still up to you individually to win that battle. Okay, you know what's going to happen? No, I'm going to beat you anyway. But again, it gives the team an advantage. Absolutely. them to manage. So, I mean, it's something that's frowned upon. And, and listen, they did it anyway. And now they're being punished for it. And it's been, how many years it's been since

that, huh? I thought they got punished for it already. I agree. I mean, they go, they seem like they should spend Sharon Moore every, uh, uh, uh, every year. He can spend the 25, he's suspended in 26. I think he got suspended in 24. Hey, listen, yeah, I think, uh, it's, happened more than that one time. They just the only team that's kind of got caught. They just got caught. I think with college football now, even with college sports in general

due to the NIL, man. Oh, man. This is a professional sport now. You know, it's no longer just college basketballs. I mean, you think about $72 million of Joe and Ocho just on the football team? That's crazy. That's crazy. Hey, you know, I just thought about

Aunt and Joe. we talk about college football and them stealing signs boy you see all them got damn signs and signals they be doing on the sideline with damn cardboard and shit how they hate to know what the hell they call him man they got somebody watching all that

hey hey Joe you watch the quarterback on the sideline well he'd be over there throwing up game signs yeah like what the hell oh Joe I guarantee they got somebody out there who only who they're just to watch them signals yeah they do that's how they got caught

they be having a cardboard with with the symbols and, oh, man, too much, too much going on. But you know what? They figured it out. All right, here we go.

Time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q. Damn, I was feeling good at night. Are you sure you want to get off already? We had two hours. Wi-Fi jumping over here. Yeah. You all going to keep on.

I see that thing. Come on, come on. Get right. 9-04. Trevor Lawrence has a playoff win. Larger's comeback in playoff history. Don't disrespect us like that. Go Jags. Sorry. You're right. Y'all guys did. Y'all came back from what was it 24-0-0-0? They came from 24-0 down to beat the Chargers. So my bad, my bad. I apologize. Trevor Lawrence does have a play-off win. It was against the Chargers. So sorry, didn't mean to disrespect you guys. And yes, you beat our Broncos in 96.

Go Jags, DuBall. King Go Vance, and I'm confused. Bengals' last playoff game was in 2022 season. There are contenders, Ocho. They have the same chances of my Bears on winning on making the Super Bowl. Wow. He said same as the Bears. Wow.

No disrespect to the Bears and Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams. Did you really just compare the Bears chances to the Bengals? Is that what we do? I'm not sure why. He must have just started watching football maybe two years ago, if that. Well, neither one of them made the playoffs last year, so... They don't do that, Joe. So he got a point on Joe.

That was Joe saying. I'm saying, what Atlanta Hawks was at last year? They made the playoffs? Joe said he's right here with us, talking to us. He'll play for the home. I'm saying he... You said he, Joe said, when I was there, they made the playoffs. I made sure that.

Let him know some. Hello. Yeah. I know my team, my team made the playoffs. Both of my teams made the playoffs. Listen, that's what I want to make. who you really room for you're saying both of your teams like what what you got go did i doubt holo i want to he he go why you got he started joe you didn't got him started so now he's going to get

the helmet joe hey he was he was in baltimore for 24 hours he was in baltimore for 24 hours and won the super bowl i and won the super bowl and went to the football and went to the player both years I was there and won a playoff game. Won four playoff games when I was there at the first year and won one the next year. You got right. You got to write the roof of both teams. Yes. All right.

You make it seem like that out for half a season. I mean, it was short. It was two years. Two years is very short. How many guys go somewhere for two years and won the season? You was with the Ravens for the honeymoon phase. That's all that was. Honeymoon.

Hey. Your shoulder. Nice. Two-90 wheels of Saras. Rex says Revis, Sanders, champ, Tileau, Rod Woodson, or Charles versus Moss, A.B., Rice, T.O., Hill, or Julio. Who's coming out on defense? Who's coming out on offense? So, hold on, I guess he's asking who's going to be the starting corners, right? So if you got

Revis, Prime, Champ, Tileau, Charles, and Rod. And they primed? And you're like, okay, and the receivers are Moss, A, B, Rice, Tio, Hill, Julio. Who's coming out on offense? Who's coming on the defense?

I'm going on Moss and Tio. On offense. And on defense? No, that's who you're going to start. That's what's going to be in. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Mosson now. Okay, okay, okay.

On defense, I'd probably go, I'll probably go champ, champ and see Wood. After what Revis did to you, you'll leave him off? That was one, that's one season.

Champ and, and Wood did it. I don't know who, Oh, what did you call him one to check, one, um, Jason Taylor. Was Jason Taylor MVP, well, a defensive player the year that year, that Revis had that historic season? In 2009? Oh, he called.

Who wasn't MVP that year? He called Ojo on that? I mean, a defensive player the year that year. Mm-hmm. Ojo. Yeah. Revis got you that year. He got the best of you. Yeah.

He got the best of every goddamn body that year. Ain't nobody had a, oh, Joe. with 50 y'rs me Randy T-O Megatrons Calvin John like no he got

he had he had a season what's you called Sartan just had a season like that everybody boy well all right who you got who you oh okay so you so you went with a you went with champ and uh

yeah and they prime man stop playing so you only you only can pick two out of the five huh yeah I'm taking prime and Rod

I'm taking prime in I'm taking prime and Charles who are you receivers get run them off again I think I heard Jerry Mawth Brandon Mawes Antonio Brown

Jared Rice Tio Tyreek Julio I'm going to Julio and uh boss I'm going Jerry and Tio

I like it Ozo 22 Ocho your half career and cousin out here playing with L-A-F-C you check in with Hume Minson

my cousin he played for Tottenham he just transferred obviously EPLC the start of the day you missed the game and Joe Liverpool played Borma had an unbelievable comeback

but yeah my cousin plays where he's South Korean Hugh Ming's son he's been in Tottenham for a very long time now he's at LAFC and I'm not sure when I have time to go down there and see him and have that family reunion but I'm excited for those you in the chat

didn't know yes I have a cousin that is from South Korea Hmm I thought you said you had a cousin that's Puerto Rico I thought you said you had a cousin that's Puerto Rico you know you got kid you know you got kid you got kid you got care for boy you like I got like like like us we got to like is that really your cousin because you know Joe

we'll claim black people yeah yeah and I'm close akin to a conny chorus old that y'all aren't that dude right there we call that dog kid I that's my kin so I got to ask I got to ask real questions I like y'all y'all really like really related y'all like you know brother, sister, children, y'all like, you know, that's your aunt kid or something like that? Oh, no, no, that's my play. Because we play entirely too much when you're up to kid. You're already doing.

Dr. Frank L. Bellaby said, hey, fam, since y'all love NASCAR, who you ride with, Burntwin Reynolds and Smokey and the Bandit or Wilfair and Tallinnah a night. I mean, I kind of grew up in Smoky and the Bandit, too. Boy, what do you talk about? What? Smoke in the Bandit.

Smokey in the Bandit. Hey, that's classic, boy. oh yeah that five birds oh man they were the good old day right there Mike Mike said new show

Uncle Ocho and ISO go hunting Joe you haven't been hunting I ain't I ain't never been hunting but I'm how you from Arkansas ain't never been hunting

I've been in the sports out of my life I ain't never been no hunting but listen that don't mean I can't hunt now I'm a fast earner now. Yeah. I can tell you. Hey, Joe, you know. Joe, have you ever shot a gun? Have you ever shot a long gun? Hey, what's up? You ain't scared of the recall? No, uh-huh. When is a hunting

season. It's about to come up, ain't it? Yeah. Okay. What's you hunting? Well, now, what we hunting? What are we going to hunt? Oh, oh, my bad, by bad, my band. You know what I want to do? I used to do back in a day, hey, too, Joe, you went to Arkansas, right? Yeah. Y'all to raise the backs? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I used to, I hunted a razorback before and wild boar. Did you really? Yeah, man. They got it the same thing, but okay, Ocho.

What you did this is in? A little bit, huh? What you did is that? In Africa. Why you got no way to Africa and they got places right there in Texas that you can go kill fair pigs? No, I'm talking about wild hogs. I had to go out.

That's what? I ain't, I ain't never been, I ain't ever been. in the text like that, you know, Houston is off limits for me. You know what?

Me too. I ain't doing, man, no, man. I'm focused. I'm locked in. Hold on. Why Houston off limits?

What? You never been to Houston? Yeah. There are a lot of, I don't know if y'all know that there's a lot of things off limits to me. But Houston is one of those things.

Hey, Joe, Atlanta, Houston. Boy, that's the devil's playground. Boy, I don't want no part of that. I don't want no part of that. of that. It's a beautiful. Yeah.

I'm thinking about, I'm thinking about moving my. I'm thinking about moving to. What are you moving to? I was looking at, I was looking at, like, Cyprus, Katie, Texas.

Oh, you put it. Yeah. Oh, let me know. Let me know, nah, because if you, if you move, I'll come on down there, too, now.

No, because then you're going to be wanting to do the show, hey, oh, see, we both live in Texas, we can do the show some day. I already know I already know what type of time

you all absolutely oh yeah matter of fact we could do the show at Area 29 no we can't no we can

yeah we could hey nah listen listen don't leave me don't leave me in the dog now if you

if you decide to move to the Texas yeah yeah I get my line first boy because I go give me

something out there for 20,000 square feet for a little penny you ain't lying you ain't lying no show do seven to seven respect you uh unkin ocho just wanted to shout out my children riland rory and reese

diehard bronco fan would appreciate a shout out for them rilin rory and reese your dad want to give you guys a shout out hopefully you've had a great day hey bronco country we riding this year you know what i'm saying that's what we do ojo hey bo necks courtland sutton that defense ooh pat ser tan hey ps2 Bronco Country Stand up Gonna beat y'all on Monday night Wait who is y'all You might be talking a joke

Nah Cincinnati Bengals That ain't happening I'll beat the brakes off y'all That concludes this episode of Nightcap Thank each and every one of you guys For joining us

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