Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Unc, Ocho, and Iso Joe react to the Top 10 receivers of the 2000s and Saquon is the cover athlete of Madden 26!

Episode Date: June 3, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Joe Johnson react to ML Football’s top 10 receivers of the 2000s, Saquon Barkley is the new cover athlete for Madden 26, & Coach Prime was hurt by Shedeur reports and much more!01:47 - Top 10 Receivers in the 2000s17:42 - Saquon’s reverse hurdle is the cover of Madden 2622:15 - Burrow said Bengals would’ve made playoffs if he played better24:18 - Coach Prime hurt by Shedeur reports38:00 - SEC fining for field rushing39:50 - Rough Draft50:00 - Spell-O Cinco56:39 - Dunk on Unc1:07:46 - Q & Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. ML Football released their top 10 receivers in the 2000s. Number one, Randy Moss. Number two, T.O. Number three, Marvin Harrison. Number four, big game, Tory Holt. Number five, the greatest entertainer of all time, Chad Ocho Cicco Johnson. Number six, Heinz Ward.

Number seven, Steve Smith Sr Heinz Ward, number seven, Steve Smith Sr., number eight, Reggie Wayne, number nine, Reverend Isaac Bruce, number 10, Anquan Boulder. God, hold on. What year did I, hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Where's Larry Fitzgerald? Hey, well, yeah, listen. Right now- Calvin Johnson! Hold on, hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Where's Larry Fitzgerald? Hey, well, yeah, listen.

Calvin Johnson. Hold on, hold on. And there was an argument about this earlier, earlier all day on Twitter, obviously on my timeline, because I said, hell, F that, take me out and put Andre Johnson. Now, the whole thing also, I love, I love Ant Quan and what he did for the game, but as

Calvin Johnson has to be on there somewhere as well. What about Larry Fitzgerald? He's got the third post catcher in football. I said Larry Fitzgerald has to be there as well, but then people said it's the 2000s. So the 2000s I think Megatron only got maybe three years because I think he came in and um I forgot what year he got drafted. I think he came in, he only had three years of. How many years, how many years was, Who here?

How many years was Larry Fitzgerald behind Anquan? Because I think Fitz was like one year behind Anquan. Yeah, it's some mother shit. Derrick Mason should be on there too now. I don't think people understand D-Mace putting some work. Man, where that man Julio Jones at, man? We talking about 2000s though. Julio-

Anquan was 2003 then. What you saying, Julio wasn't in the 2000s? Nah, nah, I think- No, Julio came in 2011. He came in 2011. He came in 2011. Him and AJ Green. Yeah. Ah.

Ah. Mm. Yeah, I like it. I like it. I should have been higher, though. See? It's. I should have been. Matter of it. I should have been higher though. I should have been mad. Okay. Who are you replacing? You replacing Moss, T.O., Marvin, or Tory Holt?

Like just off entertainment alone, I'm number one. Who you were taking out? I'm gonna put, I just told you. You going to put you in the ground? You know when we talk about numerical order, right? Doesn't everything start with zero? No, it starts with one. Okay, but before one is zero.

Who zero is at the bottom, zero is you ain't zero. You don't want to be zero. I'm going to be zero. So it's me, then, then T.O., then Moss, then whatever don't want to be I'm gonna be zero. So it's me then then to then moss Then whatever order you want to do mmm You know zero the negative number, right? Well, hey listen, I was Open to have a quick comeback, but I missed it

Yeah, I think you I think you want to be so if we a so we gotta take, we gonna take out Mars, T.O. Mars. Nah, nah, nah, we ain't, oh hell nah, hell, boy we ain't taking off your board. No, no, no, no, no. That's why, that's why, hey listen, that's why I specifically said entertainment and fun value only, I'm at a time. That's it.

But that's, hey, that was a good list. I very fortunate after I was, I saw all these guys. I saw all these guys. Yeah. Randy, T.O., Marvin, played against Randy. I never played against T.O. Played against Marvin, played against Holt,

played against Ocho. I'm trying to think, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was in 2001. Hey Unc tell Joe what I did to y'all when you played y'all. That's where I was the last. Nothing lost. Hold on. Who had the big game? What I did to y'all when we played y'all? I wasn't there. You two were in what I did the only place y'all I Wasn't there It was played y'all what I did to you. I think I think you better had like three four catches Come on, man. Well, how many TVs how many catches don't you'll have in 2001 against us? Yeah Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey pull them numbers up ass

We want no Hyundai. that's for sure. 2001, that was my rookie year. That's okay. Okay. You learned that talking like you had 250. Yeah, I mean, that is. I bet how much I had, Ash, Ash, how much I had? What do you have, Ash?

55, 60 yards? Nah, I had about 230. No. You didn't play in the Baltimore game against us? Yeah, I did. Yeah. I think you might have called a touchdown against us in 2002. I sure did. That's what I would do. I was at Denver then, but we'd be hella choked.

Oh, you were gone? That's what I would do. I can't that was at Denver then but we know oh you were gone Oh Joe you had seven targets three catches for 28 yards against us What I have what I have ash and that boy was skating that down What I guess Baltimore? Oh Joe you do realize oh Joe you y'all didn't even score. We did? No. Hold on, I ain't score?

It was zero. Y'all had zero. Wait, what? Again, since you like zeros, y'all had that. Wait, hold on, hold on. What year this was? 2001. I played? Yep. Seven targets, three catches, 28 yards. What'd I have? I thought I had me a tub, a sweet tub.

Hold on. What happened to the other five catches? I didn't catch them? What? What's wrong with y'all? Yeah, because I- Well, first of all, that was four targets. I mean, because I said you had seven targets, you had three catches.

So it wasn't five. You and math didn't do too good. That was four you didn't catch. Oh, no, I ain't dropped no balls now. That's one thing I do. I ain't dropped the money. I ain't dropped the money. My hands was like glue, you hear me? In a tub. Oh I scowed?

In 2001? I scowed? Oh that was 2000. Oh I had three targets, three catches, 32 yards on Joe. You see the difference? That's good. Three targets, three catches. Well you played, hold on, hold on. You got to understand what defense I was going against. 32 yards on Joe you see the difference three car gets three catches well you played you a hold on hold on you got to understand what defense I was going

against this was the Baltimore Ravens man like I ain't really I really get y'all no no you didn't you didn't get the 2000 basic Ravens defense you got the old one defense you didn't get that. Y'all wasn't missing too many pieces now y'all wasn't missing too many. Oh what'd he do what'd he do the second time because that was the home game I think there. What'd he do it he do the second time cuz that was the home game. I think there What he do it cuz I think he had a touchdown he probably had a touchdown the The second time we played him. Hey, what you be every time I play all in my school now, that's what I'm gonna do No, you didn't you had look 28 measly yards. Although you have the first down to catch. Oh, that's my rookie Yeah, they were just introducing me to y'all. You know when you first meet somebody, Joe?

Yeah, I know what you mean. I wanna introduce y'all. They didn't wanna get, they didn't wanna put- Oh Joe, the first time y'all played, you had one target, no catches. Damn, that's it? Oh, you know what? Cause see, that's my rookie year.

So they didn't really introduce me to y'all. That was the second time, that was in Cincinnati, what? What happened, what happened, what happened in that game. What happened what I did what I did Yeah, yeah, I had 12 targets a catches 84, okay, we don't have one target no catches Hmm. You got to use that double job Hey, well, yeah, what year was that? 2001 the year you asked for that's my rookie year What they got to do with us? Oh, yeah, what I was that? 2001. The year you asked for. That's my rookie year.

What that got to do with us? What I did after that though? What I did after that? I don't know. I wasn't there. I was in Denver. You want to see what we did in Denver? We played it in 2002. What'd he do? What I did with you in Denver. I know you lost. I didn't know I knew that. I don't know what the numbers, but you lost. Hey, women numbers look like like ass what I did in Denver Yeah, I think you gotta test down against Denver

That's what I do I cast touchdowns But we beat y'all Okay, we talked about from an individual standpoint. I can't control I can't control the team. No regular season We played in 2003 Yeah, yeah what I did then what I did there hey, by the time 2003 came, Joe, like I had fully arrived. Like, I was like, I knocked. Okay, what'd he do? Because that was Carson, I think that was Carson, your Carson was drafted.

Yeah, I agree. Hey, what year did you change your name though? To Ocho, what year was that? I forgot, I think maybe 2007, I just wonder. If he'd have played the Baltimore Ravens in 2000, we made him change it back. Hey, Ocho, listen, I changed my name simply for marketing and branding purposes only, that's all.

Oh, in 2003. Ocho, you had 10 targets, six catches, 95 yards in a touchdown. Ooh, that was me. That was me. What happened, where'd this go Ash? down. Ooh, that was me. No, I mean, what happened was the school. Ash. 30 to 10 was the score.

Oh, Joe. Boy, stop. So I was the only one that's cold. Yes. It was late in the game when you scored. It don't matter long as I got in there. Sometimes, sometimes you got to, when you go on a date, sometimes you know, you know, you get the first base, sometimes you get the second.

That's all right. Hey Joe, I don't want to tell nobody, but we had to call the dogs off. He scored with a minute left in the ball game. That was field throw. Yes. Yeah, well we didn't had no choice but to throw. I don't know what you had. You had a choice.

You had four corners. And you had time to do something before it end. We beat the Brakes off you. No, Joe, you still celebrated on that one? Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no. Listen, one thing I always did, Joe, is I never celebrated, never did a celebration if we were losing,

only if we were to tie the game or we scored first or it was to go up. Yeah, I didn't play like that. You ain't do no celebrating against the teams I was on. Who? Ocho. Man, you lucky, listen, you lucky we didn't cross paths like at the same time.

Like you was on the back end and I was coming in. If I was during your era, like during, man, I would have sauce y'all ass up, boy. Boy, Ocho, I was like, oh, I'm good for having tubs against Cincinnati. Kevin. But you have to understand, you have to understand. Speak up.

We played, what, 2000? Dropped 2000? And what are we doing 2000? This before you got there, Ocho. This before you got there. We beat the breaks off y'all, though. No, you have to understand how bad Cincinnati was back Joe that's not fair. So we are deep is still suspect. I mean y'all got some great offensive players yeah, with a with a Joe and Chase and Higgins, but

That defense Damn They only had one kiss though Ugh. That defense. Damn. They only had one kiss though? Damn. Oh, my bad, Ocho. We beat y'all 37-0 in 2000. I scored twice. I scored twice, I already know that. I don't like that.

As a matter of fact, I'm Maulster, uh, Durham Williams. Maulster. Hey, D. Will. Hey, D. Will can hit, boy. Not me. He tried to be in the end zone. He had to spell to the older-er though. I'll make a spell to the older-er joke. They're going to spell to the owner of it. Cause the ref be going to do that. I had about four catches, about 50 yards, two tubs.

You got to Cincinnati in 2000? No, you talking about, I'm just the first game. I called a touchdown in the first game. Get him with like a two yards. Going to the game in Cincinnati. Too bad, Joe. Too bad. The 37-0, that's when they knocked Akili Smith.

That's when Rob Burnett hit Akili Smith and knocked him out of the game. Y'all about to have like 40 yards that game. The hell you say? I called two touchdowns that game in 2000. I did play. Yes, it is in 2000. Yeah, let me let me know how much.

See, I said, I tried to shortchange be my numbers joke. You told me I ain't played. As try to short-change be my numbers joke You to my eye plate What thing I'm a no, uh Ravens Okay, well this Get them right man. Let them know.

Yeah. Ashtray to shortchange me. We beat them 27-7. No, no, no, no, no. No, no. Shannon Sharpe, 7 for 66 in two touchdowns. Against who? The Ravens.

I ain't play y'all in 2000. That was when, as a matter of fact, that's when Corey Dillon ran and broke the record against the Broncos. He ran for 276 because the record was Walter Payton, 275, who broke OJ's record like 273. Yep. But don't worry about it, Ocho. ["Reverse Hurdle"]

Hey, I was that boy, but Joe, you missed it. Saquon Barkley's iconic reverse hurdle is the cover of the Madden NFL 26. I just left Saquon, huh? That's why I'm in Philly. Hold on. This is the second straight year a running back has been on the cover, Christian McCaffrey being the athlete on Madden NFL 25. That sparked the debate of the infamous Madden curse once more. We good.

Uh, this is the first time a member of the Jacksonville Jag has been on the cover, uh, of a Madden, I'll bet as a person being hurtled. Damn. Hey, the person getting hurtled. Hey, he got to be upset about that boy. He got to be upset about- boy. He got to be upset about Oh yeah, he immortalized. That's like that Jordan push off, Ocho. Wait, Russell?

Yep. I wasn't no push off. He just guided him a little bit out of the way. Well, he only, that's what he guided him. That's forever. Yeah, it is. It is. I just left St. Quon. We just, we were at Gino's steak house tonight and they turned it into St. Quon. Okay. With the chili cheese steak.

It was really, really, really, really dope event. I was able to congratulate St. Quon on being the cover athlete. And we talked about the Madden curse. Josh Allen was undercover. Didn't get hurt. When? Not too long ago. Couple of years Josh Allen was undercover. Didn't get hurt. Not too long ago. A couple of years ago. Yeah.

He didn't get hurt. Pastor Mahone was undercover previously. He didn't get hurt. So I think Saquon is safe. Uh, there have been players that have, that have had small injuries and nothing, um, where they missed a lot of time. So I think we, we got to do it with the whole Madden curse thing. And Saquon is one that take care of his body,

doesn't really get hurt much. He has in the past, but recently he hasn't been hurt. I think he's going to be all right. And I honestly think there's a good chance that they might repeat. But being that the commanders have gotten better, being that Dallas has gotten better, obviously adding George Pickens,

I'm from an offensive standpoint, I'm not sure how they would look defensively. I'm excited, I'm excited to see what that NFC, NFC West look like. Man, Ocho, y'all was, good God, y'all was terrible. Who? Ocho, y'all had 174 total yards that game. Who?

The Eagles? What year was that? 2000. That's what they want throwing me the ball on. You wasn't even there. Oh, yeah, I wasn't there yet. You better be glad you weren't there. I mean, if I was, the outcome would've been different. I can tell you that.

No, it wasn't. Hey, I'm telling you, you used to be out there raising hell when that ball don't come your way? I think I might have maybe two instances like that. One, it was a playoff game. We were playing the Steelers. When Carson went down, I was very frustrated. So you have to get your production from somewhere when a quarterback of that magnitude, the playbook changes significantly

when the second quarterback comes in. So at that point, now I'm feeling put me in positions to make up for not having him in. Right. And we weren't able to do that because we were playing the Steelers and the Steelers that year, that 05 year, that defense joke?

Oh my God. So I just wanted to be, I wanted them to stop allowing them to dictate what we wanna do. Let's dictate what you. Right, y'all were gonna do nothing. So outside of that, I was really frustrated, Joe. That was one time and it was another time.

Oh, same game. Joe, I got mad at the same game. Was that the one you was acting a fool in, in the locker room? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I just told you. Yeah. Hey, Joe. What? See? Now, I could have said something. See, I knew about this, but I ain't put it out there, Joe.

At that time, I was on CBS and the word, it came back to me. Yeah. But I said, you know what? But you know, I'm not one of those, I don't have any problem, you know, you know, like, the ball not coming. I don't have any problems, you know, on, you know, like the ball not coming. I be, I be chilling Joe, just that game, the magnitude of the game. And you allowing them to dictate to us what we want to do. You thought y'all was going to the Super Bowl, huh?

Yes. I promise you. Hey Joe, all I needed was the ball, Joe, just put him in the hand, Joe. And listen, I wasn't, I wasn't one of those guys that catching 120 and 130 passes a season. 90, do you give me three or four balls a game? I'm good cuz two of them, oh I'm finna get jiggy. I don't need a whole bunch of catches. Oh Joe, since we stand on the Bengals, your quarterback Joe Burrow who has 4,918 passing yards, led the league, 43 touchdowns led the league, said the Bengals would have made the playoff last year if they had played better.

If I had played even better, we wouldn't have been in the spot where we were in. I just got to focus on getting better myself, and I feel like everyone in this locker room feels the same way. If I go out there and play better than I did last year, then it doesn't matter what goes on anywhere else. I like that. I'm glad he took that. Look, that's my quarter. Don't play well.

That's my, it was just, he had some costly turnovers at the most inopportune times and you know, when you play and catch up, Ocho. Yeah. Or you got the lead because that Baltimore game, the first time that y'all played their Ocho, y'all had a lead. And he had some costly, he had a couple of costly turnovers. Yeah. I like, I love Joe. I like, you know what, as the leader, that's what you're supposed to do.

Yeah. You got to say that. You got to say, and not very many will do that. Not very many will do that. You know what I don't like that Joe said? What? I don't like that he said he's tired of playing at the Ravens home field in primetime games. Because I, for me as a competitor, I love playing away. Ravens, Steelers, Browns. Matter of fact, hell, I like playing away just in general, especially primetime. You mean I get to be in a chaotic environment and the whole world is watching? I'd like that, but for some reason.

So I just, I don't like that he said that because it makes me feel as if he has an issue playing the Ravens in general. Nah, he's like, I mean, I know. He's like, hey, let us get one of them on prime time. I mean, say, you don't mind having the Bengals in prime time, let them come to us in prime time. Yeah, I wouldn't care.

I like being prime time and playing in Baltimore. So I'm finna send you home with a loss and everybody got to see it. I mean, I look at it differently. Colorado coach, Coach Prime said he was hurt by reports that said his son Shadua was unprepared during the pre-draft meetings with NFL teams But he also isn't buying the validity of them either. It did hurt But the Bible says God uses the foolish things to confound the wise There are some foolish stuff that went on but that gave them something that they needed. Like that edge that Tom Brady had,

it gave them that edge that you had. It gave them the edge that you have. Folks said we weren't gonna be nothing, but we had to prove them after you had to prove that. It gave them that edge that needed, both of them. When you sit up there and say something like, he went into the meetings unprepared, like dude, Shadour Sanders,

who has had six different office of coordinators, who has still functioned at a level every time we brought somebody in new, and you're gonna tell me he was unprepared? You're gonna tell me he had on headphones? Anybody that knows my son to understand he's professional, he's gonna go into the meeting with the headphones on y'all? Come on now.

I said, I knew it was bulljive. I knew they were shucking and jiving when they said it, when the report came out. Because when you're going to a meeting like that with execs, with the higher level folks at an organization, you go in there a certain way. You ain't gonna have your headphones on. You're gonna be prepared. You know, your coach and your father's already prepared you for that moment anyway. So what are we talking about? You know what I bet they did, Ocho? He probably had the headphones round his neck.

And they told me he had them on. I bet you that's what he did. Absolutely. But you know they're gonna change it up when they come out. They didn't know the story gonna come out. Pretend like it's all over. You know what, guys? On our draft board, we didn't have him rated that high. We moved on.

But to try to diminish the man, to try to come up with every excuse, like he's unprofessional, like, oh, he had, you know, his braggadocious, what? Who cares? Yeah, I know they probably critiqued him a lot harder than they did. Of course they did.

A little different, yeah, absolutely. Of course. Of course. All I know is somebody through those 4,000 yards. All I knew is somebody had those 34, 35, 30, why would they have many touchdowns he threw for? Somebody did that. Somebody inherited a one and 11 or one and 10 team

and within two years they had won nine games and they were in a bowl game. All I know he was the quarterback. I know Jackson State was better with it than they were before he got there. CU was better with him than they were before he got there. Now, if he doesn't fit your program, Ocho, if somebody doesn't fit your program

or doesn't fit you, it's okay. You don't have to say anything negative about said person, relationship or anything. If they're not for you, okay. But you ain't gotta try to, you ain't gotta try to dog them out to try to prep yourself up. You ain't gotta do that to that man.

Honestly, when it comes to the quarterback position, especially that team specifically, when it comes to picking quarterbacks, I mean, they been missing for a very long time anyway. They ain't picked nobody since Eli. Yeah. So whoever said that, and the Browns, y'all ain't did much better.

Let's be real, y'all hadn't, y'all really hadn't had a quarterback since, test, test-averted, since Kozar in the supplemental draft in 84. Hey, look, I think this is gonna be good for him, though. Like I said, just the little stuff that I've seen, Oc and Ocho, it seemed like, you know, he got his head down and he working, man.

He got his head. That's all you can do. I know, that's it. But I think that's a good thing for him. I know, I'm pretty sure he hears the whispers, but he keep his head down and keep working, man. Good things gonna happen for him because the talent is there. It's oozing out of him.

So, man, just keep going, bro. Anybody that's gone through adversity understands this. Oh, Joe, I was seven round draft pick. They said I was gonna go somewhere between round one and three. And I looked at all them guys that went before me and a lot of guys that I had played with in the bowl game. I went, I went to these West shrine game. I was one of the few division, uh, two guys that went to, uh, uh,

that went to a bowl with it. I went to the blue gray game back in. They used to have a blue gray game. Oh, Joe that played on Christmas day. Uh, I was the only division two guy. If I'm not mistaken, black college guy in that one. Um, it was in Montgomery, Alabama, Cole. Then I go to the East West shrine game.

I really wanted to play the East West shrine game because my brother played in that game and not a whole lot of brothers, uh, combination played in, in, in bowl game and so, and to see them guys, I'm like, man, you went to this place. You went to that place, bro. You'd have been the second, the second or third receiver Savannah State I'll be there. You don't know I'll be real. I'm right right right And I'm just remember thinking like I remember calling my brother spank. I'm better than all these dudes here. I Said I'm better than all them. I said hell if I did one we played tight in I could play tight in and I'm better

No, these do right here Draft come along I go sue me, you know, you go combine want to play tight end, I could play tight end, and I'm better than all these dudes right here. Draft come along, I go swim, you know, you go combine, don't show, you know, you run the line, and you know, you catching and all that stuff. Hey, we ain't got no technique, coach. I'm just out there, just raw talent. Knowing if somebody give me an opportunity,

like somebody like, okay, teach me how to run routes, okay, this foot up, this foot back, okay, you know, 10 roll to 12, drop, you know, okay. I said, Spankman, all them dudes I saw, go back and look at the wide receivers in my draft. Look at the tight ends in my draft. Oh, and every time I played against them, weren't, oh yeah, oh yeah, for sure. For sure. They needed a note.

Oh, y'all got a little extra dollars, but y'all ain't gonna make money as long as me. Right. Y'all about to be up out of here. So hopefully Shadour, like I said, it is a missed pressure because of his last name is Dad. I had, look, I came in two years after my brother. My brother was the first team I, when I got drafted, my brother was first team all pro that year.

He led the league in catches and yards. No, catches and touchdowns. Right. No yards. Yo, he led the league in catches and yards. So man, why he go to Savannah State? Man, why he ain't no high draft pick? Don't worry about that.

You about to see. But I just don't, y'all ain't gotta lie on the man. If y'all don't, if you don't want something, Ocho, let's just say, okay, you go to a restaurant. Yeah. Okay. You ain't gotta, if you didn't like, if you don't like something, Ocho. Let's just say, okay, you go to a restaurant. Yeah. Okay. You ain't gotta, if you didn't like, if you don't like what they have,

you ain't gotta say the restaurant bad without trying it. Just say what they didn't have anything on the menu that I liked. Yeah. Cool. Man, it was dirty, the service was this, and man, the waitress, you know, she gave you attitude. I asked for some water, this is, she kissing my teeth. Come on, you ain't got to do all that.

Man, they really have anything on the menu that I like. So, but hey, okay, cool, move it along. But to try to do this to the man, come on now. I know one thing, this was a blessing in disguise. Oh, Joe, you and I both say it. It ain't how you go, it's where you go. And what you do when you get there. And what you do when you get there.

That's all it is now. That's it. But look, his dad is prepared for this. He's, guess what? He's been Deon Sanders' son as long as it hadn't been. He hadn't been anything but that. So the criticism has always been there. Always, which is why he gonna be all right.

He been dealing with adversity and obstacles for a long time. Yes. Very long time, so this is nothing new. I just hate, I just hate Ocho when people do stuff like that, Joe. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, if you don't think he fits your culture... Say that. Cool, I got no problem with that.

I ain't saying draft anybody that you don't think can be beneficial. But you don't have to come up with these excuses. Just say, hey, we didn't have him rated that high. We thought he was a day two selection. Cool. I got no problem with that, don't you? Yeah. Got no problem whatsoever. But it's the, oh, the arrogance and, you know,

the brashness and the jewelry. Guys have NIL deals. Guys making three, four, five million dollars now. Ain't nobody broke like we was when we came out of school. Mm-hmm. It's a lot different. Yeah, yeah. dollars now ain't nobody broke like we was when we came out of school it's a lot different yeah yeah but they're gonna they're gonna criticize and scrutinize to the to the highest man yeah i mean what what are you making four five million dollars in nil money or even got there so yeah you're

he gonna have a colored and he gonna have a lambo or whatever else he had out there whatever else he had out there. Hell, I went to school in that town, I said he had a pickup truck. You had a pickup truck? I had a pickup, custom deluxe. Hey, I had an Acura Integra, a little hatchback. Yeah, see? Man, that thing get on the roadway,

have no problem, I got on that freeway, it was stick shift, uh. Hey. Hey. Hey, you like manual? Man, listen, so going to my sophomore year, You like, you like, you like manual? Man, listen, so going to my sophomore year, my auntie was like, you can come get my car because she worked at a car rental place.

So she drove a different car every day. Okay. So I get over there to get the car, I got some sticks, I'm like, man, I can't drive no stick. You learn quick though, didn't you? I called my uncle, my uncle Tracy, he came over there and we drove around Twin Lakes, it's a neighborhood. We drove around the neighborhood for like 30 minutes,

Uncle Ocho, then I got on the freeway, shot out to Fayetteville, two and a half hours. What? Didn't know nothing about no stick shift, boy. Cause see, when you get on the highway, you cool. It's when you get in that traffic. When I got off that freeway, and had to go up the hill.

It's that city traffic where you got a dial, you get in that traffic. When I got off that freeway, and had to walk the trail. It's that city traffic where you got a dial, you got a dial show. It took me about a whole, it took me about a good two weeks before I could figure out how to get around up in. And then you got to understand where the clutch and the brake is. But then once you get the hang of it, it's nothing. Once you get the hang of it.

But boy, to start off, it's tough. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. You like... It's that car for you in traffic too. They blowin', hey Joe, they blowin'. All right, all right, damn. Yeah, yeah, I had a whole lot of that. See, I grew up on a farm, so you don't drive in a tractor, but the gears are slower. So you ain't nobody behind you in the damn field.

So you got that wrong aid. So I kind of knew. My brother had that M3. I'll never forget, M1988, he got an M3. Was it 88? 87. It was 87, because we were still at the old house. Man, he dropped it off. Said, man, I'm going to let you drive it for a little while.

You let me know when you want me to come back and get it. I ain't even, Joe, I ain't even tell him I ain't know how to drive no more. Hehehehe. Hey, I learned how to drive on the F3. Man, I got out there, hey, my sister say teach me. I say, uh-uh, I'm trying to learn myself. Hehehehe. Man, hey, after about, probably like you said,

a couple of hours, yeah. Boy. Boom. Boom. Boom. Hey. Hey, that was me. Boy, listen, after you learn how to shift them gears,

it's a wrap. It's a wrap. When NASCAR, the way you were coming through that thing. Oh, man. And then I was in shift them gears, it's a wrap. It's a wrap. When he go to NASCAR, he be coming through there. Oh, man. And then I was in college, he dropped the Porsches off. He's like, hey, man, you know, hey, floss around. Ooh. You know what I got to tell?

Beat that. You're right. You're right. I'm driving convertible Porsches, 930s, 911, slant nose. Mm. Mm. Cuttin' up. Huh? Uh. 30s, 9-11 slant nose. Mmm. Cuttin' up.

Huh? The SEC is ratcheting up Pembroke down schools who fan storm the field or rush to court doing away in an escalating fine system that are not charging. Five hundred five. Woo!

Per incident. The motivation was field rushing is the rush. The first time, the 18th time, Commissioner Greg Sankey said, the random nature of it, you're the one getting rushed. It doesn't feel good. It might be the first time it happened there, but it might be your sixth time in a row. Literally. What y'all think about that? Y'all think? Guess what? That ain't gonna stop them college kids because there ain't none of them coming out of their pocket.

Yeah. Yeah, listen, I think I like that it's a part of the game as long as the players aren't getting hurt, long as the players aren't getting injured, but just rushing the court, man, it's enjoyable for the college kids, man, especially. But nothing gonna change, y'all. They not listening. If somebody listen. If you win a big game too. A lower seeded team, be the Duke,

be the North Carolina, be the Kansas, and it's on the road, and Kansas is playing them, or North Carolina's playing, they storming the court. Yeah. If somebody go to Alabama or Georgia and football and beat them, they storming the court. If somebody go to Alabama or Georgia in football and beat them, they storming the field.

It's really that simple. So y'all need to go ahead and sit about two million dollars a side, because it gonna happen. Yeah, it gonna happen. It definitely gonna happen. So I know y'all thinking like, oh, 500, the kids like ain't nothing coming out my pocket.

Right. So what I care, y'all can make, as a matter of fact, y'all should make it a million. Cause what y'all charging for these tuition, these student fees? And what y'all charging for tuition? We getting our money back. All right.

Now it's time for, we got a new segment coming back. Oh Joe, we hadn't had it in a while. It's time for Rough Draft. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I didn't beat you in rough draft the last three times

Bad first of all, ask me every time it comes out to I'm going last You know if you don't pick first that I'm going third on this one So by the time I go everything will be scrapped over and that ain't it. That ain't it and just What we do it okay okay, rough draft. We will take turns. You're first, Ocho's second, I'm last. And what we're doing, we're talking about cookout must haves. Things that if you're having a cookout, you got to have.

Right. No, no repeats. Joe, you up first. Cookout ribs. All right. Ocho, Joe got ribs. Ocho Cook out ribs. All right. Ocho, Joe got ribs. Ocho, what you got? Chicken.

Okay. I'm going hamburgers. All right, Joe, you up again. Bake beans. Okay, Ocho. Potato salad. Nah. What we, what have we put on it ha. What we put on it?

What have we put on it? I ain't going to eat none of them, but we going to have them glizzies. Ha ha ha. I ain't going to eat none of one of them, but we going to have them glizzies, Joe. There's a cookout. Uh.

Who's on? It's on you. Uh... sodas. Okay. What kind of sodas? Man, I don't drink sodas, but you know people gonna have them sodas there. Alright, Ocho, you up? Oh, man.

Somebody, you said baked beans already, huh? Yep. You said potato salad. Damn, that's a good one. Oh man. I don't have to treat you like the draft. You on the clock, you gonna pass you. You know what?

Dessert. I don't know what kind of dessert, draft. You on the clock. You gonna pass you. You know what? Dessert. I don't know what kind of dessert, but we. Damn. Some kind of dessert. You took out the whole thing. You know what, don't you? I'm gonna go with something. How you gonna have a cookout and you ain't got no ice?

Oh, boy, shoot. I ain't even mentioned where ice is automatic on BDL. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, say, uh, at a cookout, watermelon. That's a good one, that's a good one.

Damn, Joe. Yeah, man, listen, I can't wait for that watermelon to come on around. Who got a cookout around here, man? I got one, I got one, all y'all missing. Let me know what you think. What is it? Music, the DJ.

Okay. Got that one potato chips well hey Dixie plates and cups anyone your turn is Joe turn oh damn look at him there you go you might well go ahead and steal it, Joe. Nah, nah, no, nah, nah, don't do that. You fed out of turn, you can't go out of turn. Nopes in place. Yeah. Come on, man, how you going to go, Joe? You can't wait your turn, Joe, you talking out of turn.

Yeah. Okay. Hold on, oh. Okay, okay, let me move you ready. Can I go? Yeah. I got something for you, sis. We had to cookout,

dominoes and playing cards. OK. Well, I don't know what cookout y'all going to. Who can bring in the alcohol? Who bring in the alcohol? I don't drink, so. You done been to a cookout with no alcohol? Hell no.

You done been to a cookout with no alcohol? Hell no. Aye, look here. Y'all let me go last. I got the hottest one. I got the hottest one right here. Mine, I'm killing y'all. Guess what? Your soda's hot. Aye, and don't come here. Don't come here with no damn, hey, don't come here. Hey, hey man, can I borrow somebody? No, hell no. I ain't gone. Hey, and guess what?

I don't need to drink out no damn cup, Ocho. Guess what? I drank right out of my cold can. And in fact, hold on. I literally might have y'all beat if you think of it. No! Hamburgers, hot dogs, ice, potato chips, alcohol? I literally might have y'all beat if you think about it. No! Hamburgers, hot dogs, ice, potato chips, alcohol? Oh no. Well, I got chicken.

I got potato salad. What you mean the potato salad? You had a potato salad in your hand? Man, y'all. That's what you're gonna put it on. But only one person can pick cups and take you. I'll just say it, I'll just say it. Cause guess what? I can get my hamburg cups, I'll pick cups and tell you. I'll just say it, I'll just say it. Cause guess what?

I can get my hamburgers, I can just, hey, put it right there. Get your boy one of the, I don't need glitters, but if I did, get put the glitters in my hand. Put it right here, Ocho. Hold on, hold on. We finished, is it over yet? Yeah, it's over.

Oh, I was finna say, cause ain't nobody say grill, so I'm trying to figure out who the hell, how we had to be cooking the food. Hey, ain't nobody brought grill. So I'm trying to figure out who the happy head will be cook the food Hey Hey, nobody brought no grill. Hey, we gotta get a guess what? I Guess I'll be eating potato chips and drinking alcohol Hey, we got we definitely got a we definitely got a hood party Hey, nobody got no grill Hey, nobody got no grill. Let's go on now.

Yeah, I got John B. Rims, baked beans, cold ass ribs. You got your ribs and baked beans alone. You get that, it's a wrap. You good. Hold on. Oh Joe, I mean Joe. Hold on.

Hamburger the hot dogs. Come on. You ain't going to beat me. Hey, but, I mean, Joe. Hold on. Hamburgers or hot dogs? Come on, yeah, you ain't gonna beat me. Hey, but you gotta realize, Joe, that they... Hold on, y'all ain't like, we throwing a party for some five and 10-year-olds. I remember the time, there was a lot of cookout, ain't no more for it, have no ribs.

You know, ribs, we just got out and got some money, and people start slapping ribs on the grease. Hey. I got y'all beat simply because I got chicken and potato salad, right? Then I had the dessert. Now only do I have the chicken and potato salad. What dessert, Ocho? What dessert you having at the cookout? Ice cream? Peach cobbler. What are you talking about? Peach cobbler. Well, you, well, so somebody could have said banana pudding there. Hold on, hold on. Them big bang with that turkey up in there.

You mean to say, man, y'all ain't messing with that. That's them rich Please I say and I got the dominoes in the space car and once I got the music Yeah Y'all definitely not beat mine. Hey, I don't know you got cups what you drinking in the cup I'm doing a Czech soda. Great. He don't say, Joe got the soda. You ain't got no soda. Now he said cups.

He said cups and soda. Now you can't do cups and soda now. No. No, he got sodas with three, and he got Dixie cups and plates, because you spoke out of turn. Y'all cheating. You cheated. Y'all cheating.

It wasn't your turn. I got excited. Yeah, and you gave Joe one, and you could have had it. You might have could have won with that one, don't you? Actually, I already won. Listen, DJ, music, Frankie Beverly and Maze, before I let go of the first song we gonna play. And you ain't got nothing to drink.

You ain't got no soda. You ain't got no liquor. At least I get liquor. I get liquored up. You ain't got no f— You ain't bad, please. You ain't messin' with me. Ain't got no ice. I don't even know what you're drinking. Chicken, potato salad So wait, so the best question

Where you gonna put your chicken at? I cut mostly brand a chicken. They got have it on ice You ain't got it. So your chicken already spoiled for you got there. Oh, it ain't we cook is cooked Oh, you cook it before you get to the cookout. Yeah, they bring it. Everybody got something, everybody that bring it, they own separate thing. Nah, Ocho, the only thing that you cook before is the potato salad and the baked beans. Ah. Man, ain't nobody, man, you don't nobody cook, that's the whole purpose of having a cookout.

You don't bring no food, you don't bring no burgers and hot dogs and ribs and chicken already cooked. Man, listen, and y'all know them baked beans gonna be slapping, I'm telling you, with that turkey meat and that man, with them ribs. Nah, we want bacon. Hold on, well ain't nothing gonna be cooked because ain't nobody picked the grilled.

Ain't nobody gonna eat pork, man. Well, first of all, ain't nobody eat nothing because ain't nobody got no grill. So, we just gonna be, man, look here, we got a nice little cook Hey, Arch. So we just gonna be for, hey, man, look here. We got a nice little cookout, too. We got ribs, baked beans, sodas, watermelons. We got the cups. We got chicken, potato salad, dessert.

We got music. We got Domino's playing cards. We got hamburgers, glizzies, ice, potato chips, and alcohol. Man, who the hell forgot the grill? Man, I thought you was gonna brag at Joe's. Damn! Oh, Joe. We ain't miss, hey, I thought you was gonna brag at Joe, damn! Oh Joe! We ain't miss, it ain't missin' but a couple things.

What? A grill! That's what we missed. Look, hey, the most important thing. The most important thing. A grill! Ain't nobody got no grill. Lord have mercy.

I know who I'm not goin going on Family Feud with. Technically I won. Hey, name an item that you bring to the cookout. Ain't nobody gonna say no grill. Mm-mm-mm. You're already thinking the grill is there. You're bringing up grill. That's crazy. All right.

Now it's time for favorite segment. Now it's time, Ocho, real O-reliable, it's time for Spello Cinco. Yeah. Let me lock in and focus. ["Spello Cinco"] All right, damn, so can't hear you. Uh-oh, damn. Ocho, well guess what?

We add a little wrinkle to Spello Cinco. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't need no wrinkle. You could call Joe for a lifeline. Joe can help you. Okay, okay, okay. A lifeline ain't gonna be about nothing. You hear me?

He can only help you for one word. He can't help you on all of them, just one. I ain't gonna need no help. This is me, this what I- All right, your first word. It's an infection in one of both of your lungs caused by bacteria, virus or fungus. It's called pneumonia.

Pneumonia. Pneumonia. P-N-E-M-O-N-I-A. And P-N-E-U-M-O-N-I-A. Pneumonia. Oh, come on, man. Come on, man. Hey, you might need to slow down a little bit. You're getting a little excited when I go to hollering at these words.

Hey, hey, hey, Joe, hey, listen, Joe, that's that Harvard education. I was only there for two semesters, but I'm very good when it comes to spelling. I want to spelling be in 1987, Joe, 1987. Here we go. The next word is the night sign in the zodiac and astrology. Sagittarius, Sagittarius. S-A-G-A- Sagittarius Sagittarius S AG a Ta

Rio us F a gi T T a R I us Sagittarius It I U S Sagittarius. It. I, uh, you know what? I mean, for me, I don't know nobody them signs. Only, only sign I know about is a dollar sign. And guess what you know about this one, the wrong sign. How about this? Oh Joe, call rough phobia, call raw phobia.

It's the fear of clowns. Call phobia call ruff phobia. It's the fear of clowns call phobia Chorophobia now, I'm now you're confusing me in the way you saying it call call Call like thank you. I'm glad you're not saying that is correct. Well, I'm asking like call correct what you're saying call correct Chorophobia see you L. Mm-hmm Hold on, I'm asking you, like, cause... Correct. What you're saying, cause, correct. Chorophobia. C-U-L-R-O-P-H-O-B-I-A. C-O-U-L-R-O-P-H-O-B-I-A. Now tell me that's not what I just said, Unc. It's not. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Damn, Joe, I'm right there, Joe, I'm right there. I'm not getting no more wrong.

I'm ready. You'll get the next one. I already know. I got this. I got this. Come on. How do you say that? See, you can't even say it.

You can't give me no word. You got, you got, I need pronunciation now. Uh huh. No. pronunciation there. Uh-huh. No, let's give him one. Let's give... We're gonna give you... We're gonna give you something that we know you're gonna be able to spell. Right, right, right. Because right now you're shooting bad. Hold on, hold on. Listen, the last three, I've been right there except one letter. Ain't like I'm just getting like hella wrong now.

You ain't, you right. We'll give you word that you can solve, that you can spell. Cause uh... Cause uh, we don't ain't gonna go over now. You know, I'm gonna get the last two. Okay, Ocho. Okay. It's the art of putting off. It's called procrastinating.

Oh, come on. P-R-O-C-R-A-S-T-I-N-A-T-E. Procrastinate. I said procrastinating. P-R-O-C-R-A-S-T-I-N-A-T. ING. Procrastinating. Okay, I said, come on. Take the E off and put ING.

Come on, now. Get in my word. Don't do that. You could, hey. I'm saying you could have called Joe. Hey, phone a friend. I spelled it right. How about this, right, Ocho? Sometimes I think you're...

Ocho, you spelling these words, sometimes I think you're oh, Joe, you spelling these words. Sometimes I think you're dyslexic dyslexia. Oh, shit. Dyslexia. Hey, this. Hold on. This Lex see dyslexia. All right.

I know it's probably going in with XIA, huh? This is your last word. Yes, this, this D. Oh, oh, this is easy. D Y because what's the name? Funny Margo tried to try to say it, right? And of course D Y D Y S Lexia. Cause I said data girl named Lexia, right?

But I know dyslexia is not D-I, it starts D-Y. S-lexia, L-E-X-I-A, because I used to date a girl named Lexia. That is correct. D-Y-S-L-E-X-I-A, dyslexia. Yeah, I wonder what Lexia had, man, all these years, boy. One. Back in 93. Ocho, you were one Joe you were one you were one

Wait a minute. I got procrastinate. What are you talking about? Hey, hey, you know over over All right now it's time for dunk on up. Oh, okay. Here we go. Here we go Let me get it. Hey, hey, Joe. He Hold on, we gotta get the graphics up, Ocho. Okay, I'm gonna wait for it. [♪ Music playing. Yeah. He he he he he he. Don't worry about it Joe, your segment coming. Ha ha ha ha. This gonna be called, A Cup of Joe.

Ha ha ha ha. A cup of Joe. All right, Chad. All right, Uncle Joe. Here we go. Here we go. Joe, you should know some of these, Joe. All right. Chad, do me a favor, Chad. Please don't put the answer in there.

Please don't put the answer in the chat, because I think Uncle will use his eyes and his ability to use that to find the answer. Oh, here we go. My computer's not even on. Okay, here we go. You ready? Yep. In the 2000s, which NBA team won a title where none of their players averaged more than 20 points per game? In the 2000s, which NBA team won a title where none of their players average more than 20 points per game.

Wow. Yeah. Wow. Is right. I was I was at two of these games. OK. So they just want to be. Yeah. Yeah. Why? Why? What's what's what's what's you looking at down now? Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yo, you know this one? Yeah. OK, OK.

I was going to say Detroit. Motherfucker. Damn. That's who I was going with. OK, yeah, you got it. Yo, give me that. Because you know, you got to be logged on. Hey, hey, hey, Joe.

You see, I get logged on Joe. WWEmail.com. I'm logged on. Hey, that was a good one. That was a good one. That was a good one. That was a good one. Good one.

Okay. Are you going to get this one though? Which NBA player became the first to win finals MVP without averaging 20 points per game? The first one to do it? First one. Wait, which player became the first? Yes. without averaging 20 points per game. The first one to do it? First one, wait, which player became the first, yes, to win it, to win it, finals MVP, without averaging 20 points per game?

I would say Kawhi Leonard. Ah, that is absolutely wrong, I told you. Huh, too big for your bridges. His name is Clyde the Glide Drexler. Clyde didn't win finals being VP. He didn't win finals being VP. Elijah won both of them and Portland didn't win. How you gonna- As you is it.

I would say it was, is it Equidalla? No, Equidalla won after Kawhi. Without averaging 20 points, so it wasn't Clad Directional. No. Who was the finals MVP? Who was the first finals MVP to win without averaging 20 points? I think it's Kawhi. No.

In 2014. No. Iguodala was, Iguodala was 2015. Uh. Wes Unsell. What? Woody Average. Yeah, the first, the first, the finals MVP didn't happen until 69.

And that was, that was the year that Jerry West won it on the losing squad. And then 70 the Knicks won. So Russell never won the finals MVP because by the time he was done. So are you saying- Damn. What?

Wes Unsell won it in 1979. He averaged nine points a game. He must have averaged 20 rebounds. What year was that? 78. 78 because Seattle won it in 79. Hell nah. Hold on.

Yeah. Okay. here we go. You ready? Yep. Who was the first player in NBA history to record a quadruple double in a finals game? In a finals game? Yes, sir. Ooh, wee. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Uh-huh. Quadruple. Yeah. Ooh, wee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. My drooper. Yeah. Yo, you should know this. Nate Thurman. Who?

Nate Thurman. That is absolutely wrong. Can I tell you why it's wrong? Why? Because no one has done it. Ocho, you can't ask questions like that. You gotta ask a question that somebody... What you got going on man?

Thank you. You see, he want to win so bad Joe, he resort to cheating. I'm cheating. Yeah, I asked you a question. I asked a question. Because you said who did it. Listen, okay, and you're supposed to say nobody. Man, come on man. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Uh uh. Come on, man. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Uh-uh.

In the 1974 NBA Finals in game six, Nate Thurman, give me the stats, Ash. 22 points, 14 rebounds, 13 assists, 12 blocks. Give me me. Wait, that was in the power game. Give me me. Hold on. How you put him to get you was in the... Give me the... Hold on. Give me the...

How you put him in the U and she gave you the answer? I just... Joe, who did I say average is? I said Nate Thurman. I said Nate Thurman. Stop playing no jokes. I said, in the finals? In the finals, 1974, Nate Thurman did it.

He was the first to do a quadruple double. Y'all over there cheating me. Oh, I'm talking to you questions, bro. Hey, y'all over there cheating me, man. Oh, okay. Hey, if I unplug this, it'll cut this. Don't unplug that. Okay. Wow, cause I'm over here to see, I ain't even got my chat on.

Hey, uh. Hold on. Jordan finished show you the computer. To let you know, ain't no help here. I keep telling you, Ocho. Somebody, somebody give me your answers back there. Ain't nobody give me no, I don't need nobody give me the answers. Hey, they.

God gave them to me. Hey, you ready? You ready? You ready for the next question? Yeah, I'm ready. Who won the NBA Finals MVP in 1988? 1988. Imagine going in 80, 82.

Don't try to type down on your phone now. It's out of what? Don't try to type down on your phone now. It's out of what? It's out of... No, I can't say out of what. You gotta give me one answer. It ain't out of nobody. Who was it? Joe, you know this one, Joe? Big game James Worthy. Oh, hell nah. You cheating, man. You know, he had a triple double in the final game.

There it is. Just for good measure Kareem wanted an 87 and then Magic wanted an 80, 82, and 85. But go carry on. Hey what you got below you? You got your phone on you, man. Hey, hey. Where your phone at? Hold on. I know something about some moves now. I'm long down on you. All right.

Who holds the record for the most rebounds in a single NBA Finals game? Ooh. Oh, Bill Russell. What do you have over here? Ooh, man. Oh, Bill Russell. What he had on Trump. He he he. He he he he he he he. What he had. Hey, they briefed him on this shit first.

They don't brief him? Oh, they don't brief him. What he had, about 32 rebounds? 40. Because first of all, Ash don't even have the questions. So she can't brief me on nothing. And Aaron has them, that's you and Aaron. And her greatest joy is when you stump me.

Nah, okay, last one, last one, man. Somebody cheated, man. Who has had the most steals in the NBA final series? Ooh, that's a good one. The most steals in the NBA final series. Ooh, wee, that's a good one. The most steals. Shit, he had the best handles, too. Huh? This person not only, I mean, steals,

but that boy got handles like, like, crazy, crazy work. Okay. In the NBA finals. Okay. Hmm. An NBA finals. Joe, who you think it, Joe? NBA finals stills... Ah... Stata. NBA final steals. Stop it. No. That wasn't it, Ocho?

No. Ocho, Ocho the. Hey, can y'all hear. Ocho done blacked out. Aw, man, here you go. You can hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. We just can't see you.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. But the answer is Isaiah Thomas. What? Oh, man, here you go. You can hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. We just can't see you. Hold on, hold on, hold on. But the answer is Isaiah Thomas. Whoa, whoa, you didn't hear? Here. I don't think I'm gonna get this one, though. Nah, you won't get that one.

Hold on, let me, let me, uh, let me... I'm gonna put my camera in another outlet. Hold on. It's This man how many have on your six 20 Huh 20? Now you have no 20 no no NBA finals game? Running Steels? Yeah yeah I was at that game when I said he had 20 Steels. Ain't nobody have no 20 Steels. How you gonna tell me? Ocho. Jerry though Jerry. Okay my bad. Oh there you go. Ocho done ruined it.

Oh, you still didn't get it right. But, Ocho, you said in a finals game... Hey, finals game, finals series, you still got it wrong. No, I didn't say you didn't get me a chance. You blurted out the answer. It was for the series. You asked Joe. I get to phone a friend just like you got to phone me.

Oh, no, I get to phone a friend. You don't get to phone no friend. This your sport. You know basketball. You went to Harvard for two sabasters. You know basketball. You know basketball. You know basketball.

You know basketball. You know basketball. You know basketball. You know basketball. You know basketball. You know get to phone a friend. You don't get to phone no friend. This your sport. You know basketball. You went to Harvard for two sabasters. But I got thrown out. I won.

Nah, you cheated, man. Dive's time for I won again. I got I was three out of five. Four, I was three out of five, four. I was three out of five, three out of five. Oh, chill got one right. All right. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and eight.

Hey, maybe cheating, man. Smith James said no one brought trash bags or trash cans. Who's cleaning up? Man. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe heehehe hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee Ain't nobody brought no charcoal. So I'm just gonna take my stuff back home, man. Hey. Danny said, Ocho, we in 2025. You should know how to spell. Now, what you not gonna do is see and act like you know how to spell them goddamn words that we had. Don't do that. People be killing me, acting like they some some wizards.

They spell the words Hey, you know you cuz they're like, wait, I spelled exactly. You're right Yeah. Yeah, the damn Smith said Pacers had it had favor in their run with starters getting injury for the Cavs and Bucks Now they're going to see a team that's similar to what they do better if Niece Smith gets in foul trouble Who's guarding shade? Okay, see him four. Four? You're gonna sweep up? That's what four would mean.

Man, you trippin', man. Paces in five. Man, this man, I'm betting bet. You giving away money. Who? Well, we gonna pick the series. We're off tomorrow, but we gonna pick the series. We're off tomorrow, but we're gonna pick the series on Wednesday.

Kemper Norwood Jr. said, my question is if KD came to Dallas, who would the Mavs give up? Nigel Marshall for KD in the 2026 and 2027 first round pick? Joe, what you thinking? Man, they're gonna give up more than that. I agree. But here's the thing. Joe, what you thinking? Man, they're gonna give up more than that. I agree. But here's the thing, Katie's gonna be 37 and he has an injury history.

So he's not gonna command. And plus. Man, if y'all think Phoenix's gonna give up Katie just for the Nazi marshal and a pick, they not doing that. They gonna go more than that, okay, Ocho. Yeah. I believe they won't two first rounders in a player.

For sure. Because you get KD, that automatically put you at the top, meaning like your expectations change. Yeah, they changed, but that don't mean you gonna be at the top, because we saw that with Brooklyn and we saw that with Phoenix. And Phoenix then made the playoff this year,

and they got swept last year. Man, they not get, they gonna, Phoenix gonna want more than that back. I, I, I believe so too. But what, what do they have to give up? They're not giving up that number one overall pick for Katie. Nah. Hold on, so y'all think they gonna give up KD and you gonna keep your number one pick?

Wait, number one? Hold on, Joe, you actually think they gonna give up the number one overall pick for KD? I actually don't think they giving up the number one pick, but if you gonna get KD and I'm Phoenix, man, I'm gonna need a little more than that, I'm sorry. Yeah? Well, how many pigs they got they got a pick from that they got a pick from mom the Lakers what pick is that got to give me one of them bees you got over there lively a gaffer you

got to give me one of them yeah and I probably don't wanna um Max Christie yeah and now you're marching yeah yeah you gonna need by four five dudes to get And I probably don't want to, um, Max Christie. Yeah. And Nigel Marcher. Yeah. Yeah. You gonna need about four, five dudes to get up and now. Nah. Man, what? Oh, they don't got the Lakers picking till 2029.

Which might be worth something, Mike. What's up, Uncle Nocho? Did the trade for McHale Bridges given up five first round picks here in the Knicks and getting Giannis or Kevin Durant? Yes. Yes, it absolutely did. They only talking about that right now though. Cause the Knicks out. Cause it cause had you gone to the NBA finals, you wouldn't have cared about giving up those.

Might as well. Hey listen, that's why it only can be one winner. So it's everybody else going to be dissatisfied. That's just part. Colin said, how do y'all think the Lions are going to do this year? Now that they lost our center, like we lost our coordinators and now our center. Rag now was a four time pro bowler. He's a first round pick on one of Brad home selections.

He was very good. They lost a lot. They lost a lot. They're still a very talented team. They're going to get a lot of these guys back on defense Ochoa that was injured last year. They're going to get Hutch back. They're going to get one of those linemen back.

They're going to get some of those D linemen back. But, you know, you lose both of your coordinators, you lose your center, the middle of the line, but you still talent. You got Amon Ra, you got McCorter, you got Jamison, you got Montgomery, you got Gibbs. They still got a lot. But I think, you know, the coordin. But I think the coordinator is gonna hurt.

You think so? Yeah, I think they have so much talent around them, offensively and defensively. I think they're gonna be fine. Regardless of who's calling the plays, it's still the same players. And obviously those same players are still good at their respective crafting positions.

So I think they're gonna be all right regardless of who's calling the plays. Okay. Those same players are still good at their respective crash positions. So I think they're gonna be alright because it was called in place Okay, Casey Taylor says start bitch cut Santana malls Marcus Colston Victor Cruz It Also, he wants me to share my 84 chain store Also, he wants me to share my 84 chain story. Want to see Joe's story, like so Joe has especially spending time in Atlanta.

All right, Ocho, Santana Malls, Marcus Colston, Vix to Cruz. Damn. That's a good one, though, boy. Ooh. You know what? I'm going with home team. I'm starting Santana. I'm starting T'm starting Santana. I'm starting 10. Okay I'm a bench. Oh

That's hard I'm a bench Marcus Colston. I Mean for those you've watched him play with Drew Brees and the numbers he put up. Oh Colston. Oh, he had a he had a stretch there. He was what he. He was- He had a hell of a stretch and I love the cruise, man, but it was just a little bit too short. Okay. Well, the 84 chain was my brother gave it to me. I had a break-in back in May of 2023 and they stole it and I have yet to replace it.

Um, I wore it all. Do it. I wore my chain during the actual game. Oh Joe. Yeah. The actual game. I wore that chain. And I remember, um, as a matter of fact, I had an appraisal. The only time it's ever been broke and I was blocking Lee

Woodall in a pre-season game. And he, you know, he And he tried to snatch me. Man, it broke. I felt it pop. Man, I let him go so quick. Hey, get it. You know what I'm looking... Man, I'm looking out there.

And then we turn and go to the other end. Right. Man, they got people scouring on their hands and knees on the field trying to find it. It was down in my football pants. I just knew somebody had to have picked it up. Yeah. Yo, what's your favorite, what's your story of spending time in Atlanta with the Hawks? Man, man, I got so many in Ocho.

I don't know, I can tell y'all when I first got here, you know, coming from Phoenix, we had won 62 games and getting here to Atlanta prior to me coming here the year before, I think they had won like 13 games. prior to me coming here the year before. I think they had won like 13 games. So I ain't gonna tell y'all no lie, man. It was rough the first couple years off at Ocho. I'm being honest, man. It's probably about like two, 300 people in the stands.

It was bad. Damn! It was bad. It was bad. It was bad. But look, every year, every year we got better, we start, you know, we got better as a team. So therefore, you know, the fans started to come out

and by year three, it was booming there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But those first couple years, man, listen, I ain't gonna leave my house. It was so bad. We were getting out here. I was like, Lord, I ain't going nowhere. Anyway, you lose it, man. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard to get out the house. It absolutely is. As a professional athlete, when you losing lose it, man, it's hard. It's hard to get out the house.

It absolutely is. As a professional athlete, when you lose it like that, man, because listen, we started off my first year here, man. We started off 3 and 27, man. Damn. God damn. We were getting drugged. I'm talking about, man, listen, I'm talking about,

didn't want to leave the house. Yeah. I'm talking about, man, it was bad with you. Sir Kate said, my guys, when y'all playing, who was the one player that made you say, man, that boy Cole was watching on the sidelines on film? Bro, I was in the league. I was in the league.

I was standing across the field and watching Barry on Thanksgiving. You know what the lines, how the lines play on Thanksgiving? Now imagine Barry on that turf on Thanksgiving. You know the lines, how the lines play on Thanksgiving? Now imagine Barry on that turf on Thanksgiving. Yeah. Lines might get beat all the time, but they gonna play their ass off on Thanksgiving.

Man. Hell, I played on the sideline watching Jerry. Saw Moss. Hey, Uncle Ocho, I played against this Carter their first news in Toronto. Yeah, but it's first swing It was no game plan for him man this Carter No, man. Listen, it was no game Like you know how you had game plans who were like you game plan for Reggie Miller Ray Allen But like for Vince cuz he shot so many unorthodox shots

and he was so athletic. It was like everything he'd done. I was like, wow. Like as a rookie watching him, I think he probably about four or five years in the league, but he was already half man, half amazing. Yeah. Man, it was something to see.

I watched some highlights, man. That joke was jumping up, man. That joke was head above the rim. It was unreal, man. Unreal. It was unreal. It was unreal. Man. Uh, J83 said, Joe, what's the most points you scored at Central?

The most points I scored at Central? Probably like 35, 36. I didn't score a lot. We had an awesome team. Okay, I want y'all, we were ranked nationally and that's a public school, you know, D Little Rock Central. Y'all can look us up on HBO, man.

It's a special about my high school year. We something to be talking about, you hear me? But yeah. Did y'all win the state, Joe? Yeah, we won state. We should have won it every year. You know, it was just, when I was in high school, it was 10th, 11th, 12th, ninth grade one high school. It was 10th 11 12 9th grade one high school

Okay, it's 11 12. We made it to the championship game my 10th grade year We lost in like the semis in my junior my senior. It wasn't even close We we blew everybody out championship game was a blowout Nothing they could do Jared Jones the ghost said please give some love to Nigeria candidate from Texas tech. She has led the softball team to the world series. She pitched nearly 400 straight pitches for a team and she leaves the team and home run. Actually she's the one that stopped Oklahoma's diners.

Oklahoma had won five straight national championship games and she, Hey, remember she was at Stanford and it's reported that she got a million dollar NIL deal to go to Texas Tech. Now, I don't know if she's a senior, she might go get too many. They might need to bump that up, but she was sensational on the mound today and everybody knows those big guns, those big bats that Oklahoma can trot out there there but she was sensational today. I thought Oklahoma had them because they uh bottom of the seventh two run home a tighter game but then oh girl come back bottom boom but uh yep I think it Najaree Kennedy she was she was great she was great. She was great. And that's what you pay a million dollars for, Ocho. Yeah.

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