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Mello!
What's up?
What's up?
Man, what's up?
Glad we're back, Black?
I'm in real, man.
Ramello, what's going on, bro?
How you doing?
What's up?
I'm great, man.
Congratulations on the big win.
Talk to us about to see, look, everybody heard about, man, they got all these
kids out of the portal.
They're going to spend a lot of money.
So you know when you spend money there, they expect
that comes along with money being spent.
And I guess you guys can say this is money well spent.
But what was your expectation when the coach brought you guys,
you assembled spring ball and you got together for the summer
and you're getting ready to start this season?
What was coach, what was the message that coach relayed to you guys
that resonated so much that you guys find yourself where you are right now?
Man, the first thing coach said, well, we got, like,
he brought all the transfers and he was like, man,
everything going to be built in that locker room.
the brotherhood you y'all built that's that's what gonna take y'all for like however y'all
whatever it goes on in that locker room and however y'all treat these on in that locker room that's what
gonna take you out for the brotherhood that's y'all built yeah hey i don't i don't mean to be
disrespectful to be yu but watching from tv watching from home and join my cigar with my coffee
was the game as easy as it looked from home as it was to you on the field and you you can
I'm just being honest.
It looked like they ain't be long at there with y'all at all, bro.
Honestly, that first quarter they gave us, like, they best, they best plays.
Like, the first job, they scored on us, they gave us their best plays.
They had in black.
So after that, we adjusted, like I said, we adjusted.
We figured everything out, and we, everything was on point after that.
So what was your expectations?
Because obviously, there was a lot of.
hype when people started talking about Texas Tech and Texas Tech hadn't been talked about
like this since Patrick Mahon Boy was there at quarterback. And so now you guys are being
talked about like, okay, let's watch out with this team. This team can make the college
football playoffs. What was your expectations coming into the college football season?
Oh, man, my expectation was the, you know, just work towards my goals and work towards
the team goals. That was get towards the big of championship. Yeah. Man, like,
like you said like man they spent so much like people say they spent so much money
well you know you got some of it don't pretend like you didn't get none of it i'm talking
but they they say they say who they is i got i got a look at son man like it was a lot of weight
on our shoulders honestly like man everybody was man they spent all this money on his roster
how are they going to really play like how are they going to really play when they come down
to them being on the field.
Are they going to live up to the expectations
that everybody have, like, have on the, you know what I mean?
So, man, that was, like, I took a serious.
Like, man, I was in the lab daily.
We lived in the lab.
All of the transfers that came, man, they just,
bro, they different.
They train the room different.
Like, they live in the trainer room.
They do everything.
Like, everything is different here, man.
Like, I've been in a lot of programs.
And, man, the guys around here,
they just take it so much.
seriously like right things different man they take it they take it much more serious now you know
we understand what your goals were you know from a team perspective uh winning the big 12
championship from a personal standpoint and what you wanted to accomplish you know leading up to
the big to the big 12 championship and obviously going further have you how many of your
personal goals have you achieved so far you think uh man one of my goals was just finishing on a
QB this year. Last try, you know, I had a lot of persons and got to the QB
pretty often, but like I couldn't finish. So one of my main goals was to like, you know,
just get the QB down. So I finished the regular season with probably like eight and a half,
nine and a half. So man, that's a that's an accomplishment for me, man. I'm single blessed.
I was able to, you know, get to the Q and actually finish. Yeah. And that was one of my goals
actually finishing this year when I got.
What were you from?
I'm from Dublinville.
Oh,
you're from Lawrence County?
Man, from Lawrence County, man.
You're from the wholesale mate?
Postal maid.
That's right.
You run down the road from your boy.
You thought, you're from Savannah, right?
I went, I'm from Glenville, Georgia.
I went to Savannah State.
You know where Reesville, the state,
you know Reesville State Prison?
I'm south.
I'm south of you.
So if you, 16, this hit 16,
Heading towards-
You was like all-a-
Yes, yes.
That's exactly how far I am.
Yeah, that's exactly how far I am.
I come up 23, hey, I come up 23, hit 16,
straight up to the crew of Atlanta.
Pass through Jordan, pass through Dublin all the time.
West Lawrence.
As a matter of fact, D.T. Demarius.
Yeah, baby.
Yeah.
Well, Lord.
Yeah.
Okay, you're from the four seven and eight.
Yeah, I'm phone seven eight too.
I'm from 7-8-2.
Yeah, I went off my life in 10th, then transferred back to Dublin.
So what, where were you, where were you from, before, uh, you transferred back?
I went to West Lawrence.
Okay, you went to West Lawrence, then you transferred back to Dublin.
Oh, okay, okay, that's what so.
Yeah, I, yeah, I, I, I, me too.
I was at Dublin, I was at Dublin one year.
Hey, let me, talk.
What are you from?
Huh?
Where you from?
I'm down here in Day County.
I'm from Liberty City.
Okay.
Yeah.
Y'all got some boys from Florida on the team?
We got a little, we got a little Reds.
I thought he's from the O.
He's from Orlando.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
What made you decide to go to Texas Tech?
Man, honestly, man.
Oh, the NIL.
Okay, I got you.
I got you.
See, it wasn't even like that.
I wanted to stay at Tech bad, man.
But, man, I don't want to get into all that.
But it was just, it was bad, man.
And they said, honestly, they said I didn't, I didn't, like, play how they wanted me to play.
What?
You want to go to Georgia Tech?
You want to go to Georgia?
They said they overpaid me.
And I wasn't good.
No.
But I was at Tech last year.
Georgia Tech.
Oh.
That was a Jordan.
Damn, Ramel.
Oh, you, you're smart.
You got good head on you.
Okay.
Yeah.
Love something.
Yeah.
Because, uh, D.T.
baby with the tech Calvin Johnson
actually Roman
Raines with the Georgia Tech
yeah I ain't even know that
yeah so you go to Georgia Tech
you got a little you know you get a little something
something they break you off a little something something
and they say well hold on you you ain't you ain't living up to what
we say okay later for y'all I'm going to go
somewhere that's going to really appreciate me
and going to break me off again but I'm going to take this
what y'all gave me
amen
So what's you drive?
What you got, takes it?
What's you driving?
A Lambo?
Oh, man, I wish I had it like y'all, but man, I got a, I got a TRX truck.
I just wanted to keep it.
Ooh, he got money.
No, it ain't even like that.
I got out here in the country and man, I see it out of them trucks and I wanted to get in the truck, so I'm right around in the truck.
Okay.
Okay.
So you're outdoors, so you, you hunting, you fish, you, what is that, so in Lubbitt, what is that to do in Lubbett?
What y'all got going on out there?
It ain't too much to do out here, but, you know, Bob, man.
That's how I- Okay.
That's a great place for me.
I feel like that's good for me.
That's what I'm saying.
I feel like that's good.
Like, it's good that I'm able to lock in more.
I'm able to live in a facility.
Like, that's all I feel like I got here is the facility.
I like that.
I got here.
So, hold on, hold on.
Hold on.
Listen, I know you love the game of football, right?
I know you locked in.
I know you're trying to achieve your goals,
but you got to be able to have some fun, though.
I mean, what you do to reset?
I mean, man, you know, you know.
Yeah, I reset.
Yeah, yeah, we don't.
We know.
You ain't got to say no more.
Rubello, you ain't got to say no more.
We know how you reset.
It's some spots.
Yeah, it's some good stuff out of it.
Yeah.
But, man, I feel like I don't grew out of that.
Already?
Oh, hell.
That's right now what I'm talking about.
The college, the college, the college.
college life. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay. I got you. Yeah, yeah, we understand. We understand.
Yeah.
That boy life get old, man. There's a great chance that you guys are going to probably have a buy.
How often are you going to be doing the buy? Has coach told you anything? I guess you guys are
just waiting for tomorrow to see how this thing shapes up. Do we get a vibe? Where are we going to
play? What bracket are we going to be in? When you get a chance to get home?
I don't know if you got a chance to get home for Thanksgiving.
Have you gotten a chance to get home or will you get a chance to get home?
Yeah, I got a chance to go home.
We all got a chance to go home before Thanksgiving.
We had a little bop for Thanksgiving.
So we got to go home right there.
And I think we're going to have a, I definitely think we should be having a bout.
But we're going to figure that out at 1030.
Yeah, you pick.
We all need enough facility, yeah.
So if you get a buy, you're going to go home?
or you're just going to stay there and you're going to stay there and chill?
What you're going to do with your free time?
Man, I think I'm going to stay out here, man.
I like that.
Just recover.
Just recover, man.
There you go.
All right.
Ain't nothing wrong with that, man.
What's on?
Mello, congratulations, man.
Great season thus far, but you didn't come this far.
What's up?
What's up?
Man, what's up?
Oh, Joe.
Where are you at, Black?
I'm going to us.
I'm at grill, man.
Ramello, what's going on, bro?
How are you doing?
What's on?
Congratulations on the big win.
Talk to us about to see, look, everybody heard about, man,
they got all these kids out of the portal.
They're going to spend a lot of money.
So you know when you spend money,
there's expectations that comes along with money being spent.
And I guess you guys can say this is money well spent.
But what was your expectation when the coach brought you guys,
you assembled spring ball and you got together for the summer
and you're getting ready to start this season?
What was coach?
was the message that coach relayed to you guys that resonated so much that you guys find
yourself where you are right now?
Man, the first thing coach said, when we got, like, he brought all the transfers and he was
like, man, everything going to be built in that locker room, like the brother here y'all built.
That's what going to take y'all for.
Like, however y'all, whatever goes on in that locker room and however y'all treatise other than
that locker room, that's what going to take y'all for in the brotherhood that y'all built.
yeah i don't i don't mean to be disrespectful to b yu but watching from tv watching from home
enjoying my cigar with my coffee was the game as easy as it looked from home as it was to you
on the field and you you can i'm just i'm just being honest it looked like they didn't be long
at there with y'all at all bro honestly that first quarter they gave us like they best
they best plays like yes the first job they scored on us they gave us they best plays they had
So after that, we adjusted, like I said, we adjusted, we figured everything got, and we, everything was on point after that.
So what was your expectations?
Because obviously there was a lot of hype when people started talking about Texas Tech.
And Texas Tech hadn't been talked about like this since Patrick Mahon boy was there at quarterback.
And so now you guys are being talked about like, okay, let's watch out with this team.
This team can make the college football playoffs.
What was your expectations coming into the college football season?
Oh, man, my expectation was the, you know, just work towards my goals and work towards the team goals.
That was to get towards the big tour of championship.
Yeah.
Man, like you said, like, man, they spent so much, like people say they spent so much money on the office.
Well, you know, you got some of it.
Don't pretend like you ain't get none of it.
I talk about they, they say, they say, who they is?
I got a listen, son.
I got a listen, son.
Man, like, it was a lot of weight on our shoulders, honestly.
Like, man, everybody was, man, they spent all this money on this roster.
How are they going to really play?
Like, how are they going to really play when they come down to them being on the field?
Are they going to live up to the expectations that everybody had, like, have on the, you know what I mean?
So, man, that was, like, I took a serious.
Like, man, I was in a live daily.
We lived in the lab.
All of the transfers that came, man, they just, bro, they different.
They train the room different.
Like, they live in the trainer room.
They do everything.
Like, everything is different here, man.
Like, I've done been in a lot of programs, and, man.
The guys around here, they just take it so much seriously.
Right.
Things different, man.
They take it much more serious.
Now, you know, we understand what your goals were, you know, from a team perspective,
winning the Big 12 championship
from a personal standpoint
and what you wanted to accomplish
leading up to the Big 12 championship
and obviously going further.
How many of your personal goals
have you achieved so far, you think?
Man, one of my goals was just finishing
on the QB this year.
Last try, you know, I had a lot of person
and got to the QB pretty often
but like I couldn't finish.
One of my main goals was to like, you know,
just get the QB down.
So I finished the regular season with probably like eight and a half, nine and a half.
So, man, that's an accomplishment for me, man.
I'm super blessed.
I was able to, you know, get to the queue and actually finish.
Yeah.
And that was one of my goals, actually finishing this year when I got to.
Ramella, what were you from?
I'm from Dublin.
Oh, you're from Lawrence County?
Yeah, from Lawrence County.
No, from Lauren County.
No, you're for the post-sale mate?
Post-sale mate.
That's right.
Come on.
You run down the road from your boy.
You fought Savannah.
Huh?
I'm from Glenville, Georgia.
I went to Savannah State.
You know Reesville, the state, you know Reesville State Prison?
Uh, no.
I'm south of you.
So if you, 16, this hit 16 heading towards.
You was like, oh, yes, yes.
That's exactly how far I am.
Yeah, that's exactly how far am.
I come up 23, hey, I come up 23, hit 16, straight up to the crib of Atlanta.
to the Cree of Atlanta.
Pass through Dublin all the time.
West Lawrence.
As a matter of fact, D.T. Demarius.
Yeah, baby.
Well, Lord.
West Lawrence.
Yeah.
Okay, you're from the four seven and eight.
Yeah, I'm from seven eight too.
Three years, then transferred back to Dublin.
So what were you, where were you,
where were you from before, uh, you transferred back?
I went to West Lawrence.
Well, baby, okay, you went to West Lawrence.
you transfer back to Dublin.
Okay, okay, that's what's up.
Yeah, I, yeah, I, me too.
I was at Dublin, I was at Dublin one year.
Hey, let me, talk.
Where you from,
what are you from?
I'm down here in Dade County.
I'm from Liberty City.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, y'all got some boys from Florida on the team?
Uh, we got a little, we got a little regent.
I thought he's from the O, he's from Orlando.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
What made you decide to go to Texas Tech?
Man, honestly, man, I...
Oh, they're in that, L. Okay, I got you. I got you.
They see it wasn't even like that. I wanted to stay at Tech bad, man.
But, man, I don't want to get into all that, but it was just, it was bad, man.
They said, honestly, they said I didn't, I didn't, like, play how they wanted me to play.
What? You want to go to Georgia Tech, and you want to go to Georgia?
They said they overpaid me.
and I was I wasn't good
no
but I was that take last year
Georgia
oh
I was a Georgia
damn Ramel
you're smart
you got you got a good head on you
okay
yeah
look
that's what
DT Babebe
with the tech
Calvin Johnson
actually Roman Rains
went to Georgia Tech
yeah I ain't even know that
yeah
so you go to
Georgia Tech, you got a little, you know,
you get a little something, something, they break you off a little
something, something, and they say, well, hold on, you
ain't, you ain't living up to what we, say, okay,
later for y'all, I'm going to go on somewhere
that's going to really appreciate me and going to break
me off again, but I'm going to take this what y'all gave me.
Amen. Amen.
So, what did you drive? What you got, Texas? What's you
driving? What you're driving? A Lambo.
Oh, man, I wish.
I had it like y'all, but man, I got
I got a TRX truck
I just wanted to keep
He got money
I got out here in the country
I saw it out of them
trucks and I wanted to get in the truck
So I'm right around in the truck
Okay, okay
So you're outdoors and so you
You hunting you fish you?
What is that so in Lubbitt?
What is that to do in love it?
What do y'all got going on out there?
It ain't too much to do out here
But you know
Bob man
That's how I do.
Okay, that's a great place
I feel like that's good for me.
That's what I'm saying.
I feel like that's good.
Like, it's good that I'm able to lock in more.
I'm able to live in a facility.
Like, that's all I feel like I got here is the facility.
I like that.
I got here.
So, hold on, hold on.
Hold on.
Listen, I know you love the game of football, right?
I know you're locked in.
I know you're trying to achieve your goals.
But you got to be able to have some fun, though.
I mean, what you're going to reset?
I mean, man, you know, you know.
Yeah, I'm really.
He said? Yeah, yeah, we don't. We don't. You ain't got to say no more.
Ramello, you ain't got to say no more. We know how you can see it.
It's some spots. Yeah, it's some good stuff right here.
Yeah. But, man, I feel like I don't grew out of that.
Already? Oh, hell. That's right now what I'm talking about.
The college, the college life.
Okay, okay, okay, okay. I got you. I got you.
Yeah, yeah, we understand. We understand.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Yeah.
That boy life gets old.
There's a great chance that you guys going to probably have a buy.
How often are you going to be doing the buy?
Has coach told you anything?
I guess you guys are just waiting for tomorrow to see how this thing shapes up.
Do we get a vibe?
When are we going to play?
What bracket are we going to be in?
Will you get a chance to get home?
I don't know if you got a chance to get home for Thanksgiving.
Have you gotten a chance to get home or will you get a chance to get home?
Yeah, I got a chance to go home.
We all got a chance to go home before Thanksgiving.
Okay.
We had a little bop for Thanksgiving.
So we got to go home right there.
And I think we're going to have a, I definitely think we should be having a bop.
But we're going to figure that out at 10.30 in the morning.
We all are you going to know that facility, yeah.
So if you get a buy, you're going to go home or you're just going to stay there and you're going to stay there and chill?
What are you going to do with your free time?
Man, I think I'm going to stay out here, man.
I like that.
Just recover.
Just recover, man.
There you go.
All right.
Ain't nothing wrong with that, man.
Mello, congratulations, man.
Great season thus far, but you didn't come this far to come this far.
So you might as well, hey, we're in it.
We might as well win it.
Finish it off.
Facts.
They're going to take a lot of work, but we're going to get it done.
Absolutely.
So you got 16 solo tackles, eight and a half sacks, two fourth fumbles.
You started your career.
at Georgia Tech 2425, then you went to you,
no, you went to USC first.
Damn, you went to Aubrey, too.
I went to Auburn first.
Damn.
Then I went to USC.
You got a lot of college gear.
You got some Auburn gear,
you got some USC gear, tech gear.
Every state.
I don't been to every other state.
Hey.
Dang.
Sometimes, sometimes you got to do that.
So you're going to the highest bid around.
Yeah, yeah, man.
Honestly, man, like, man, in the first few years,
I just weren't living right, man.
Like, you know, and I was just hopping spot to spot,
you know, trying to change my life.
And, man, when I was at Auburn, like I said,
I was, I was young, wasn't living right.
I was just young and done.
I had to transfer.
Went to the USC, that probably was one of the worst seasons.
You ain't no Cali kid.
You ain't no Cali kid.
LA, like, yeah, yeah, it wasn't for me.
Like, man, I wouldn't use to it.
So we went out there, man.
I was still living the same lifestyle, man.
Okay, I got.
Oh, I got you.
I got you.
Then, boom, that wasn't, that wasn't, you know, good for me, like I said.
So, boom, I went back to Georgia, Georgia Tech.
I was close to family, and I was better of myself.
And, man, like I said, I didn't want to leave until the, you know, yeah, situation.
And then, boom, I ended up at Tech.
Totally changed.
Totally different person.
Okay, I got you.
You had a turkey drive in Dublin, providing a family with free turkeys in the community.
Tell us about that.
of this start and what made you want to do that?
Oh, man, I just, like, you got to get back to your people, man.
Everybody got to eat.
Like, you know, like, where I'm from, man, like you said, you know about the four-send man, man.
It's rough down there, and, man, I just wanted to give back to my people,
get back to the community, and, you know, hip-hop, man.
So I wanted to feed families.
you know look now the projections on you are second round draft pick obviously you don't want to put you don't want to put too much on that because there's still unfinished business over the next month or so that you need to take care of but as but as you start to prep and you start this journey where because ultimately you know hey I'm sure your lifelong dream was to play in the national football league play college ball and then play in the national football league so you can really secure your family and help your mom dad and family out and you know help your community
even more when you get more finances.
So have you allowed yourself to think about that,
what it's going to be like to hear your name,
call that you're going to be playing for one of the 32 teams in the NFL?
Yeah, I have.
Of course, it crossed my mind all the time,
but, man, I'd just be trying to live in the moment, man,
just living in the present life and just, you know,
take it day by day and keep stacking days, man.
That's all I can do.
So, you know, I still got to go train.
I got a loan process.
So, man, I've just been taking it day by day and stacking days.
Man, I love that, man.
Congratulations on the Big 12 championship.
I believe you guys are going to have one of those four buys.
Best of luck.
Stay healthy and good luck.
Hey, you know, we always, the Georgia boys, you know how we, hey, we stick together when
them dirty boys drop.
We hit, everybody hit the flow because they know what's up.
Come on, ma'am.
Come on.
4-7-8-the-house.
Ramello height.
Thank you, man, for joining us.
Congratulations on the season.
Stay healthy and good luck down the road, man.
All right, man. Appreciate you.
I appreciate you, bro.
No.
Man, you know what I'm saying?
We get a, hey, I like that we get them Georgia boys on here, man, 4-7-8.
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Ocho, I told you.
Yeah.
Did I tell you this?
I said, you get them people money and then jump, jump, jump.
I said, they're going to do something like this.
I said, Ocho, we just had this conversation.
Yeah, we did.
And that's not right.
Now, I understand.
I understand that that's a good thing, that's a good thing.
And honestly, I think if players are going to leave, if you're going to jump ship,
get them people their money back.
Get them people their money back so you can't double dip.
It's not no problem.
And whatever school you're choosing to go to,
they should make sure they take care of you.
Okay, you know what?
If you got to get that $390 back, don't worry about it.
We'll give you what we're giving you
and we'll put that $390 on top of it
if you really who you say you are.
It shouldn't be no problem.
Look, it's kind of like if there's what they call a buyout.
If a coach get fired, he has years left,
they got to pay him.
If he wants to leave and go to another college,
you got to pay them.
You got to pay the school that you leave it.
That's getting high work.
They're, oh, here's the thing, Ocho, normally in media,
if you try to go somewhere else,
it's what you call they have a non-compete.
So if you at, you at one of the major networks,
and you're like, well, I want to go over here.
They say, well, you, hey, you ain't going to take this money
and they'll let you go.
But you ain't going to be able to do both.
Or if they, if they fire you,
they might have a non-compete written in.
So you get fired one place.
You might have a one or two or three-year non-compete where you can get
right, right.
but I agree I agree with you I think the thing is if you take their money just give the money
back whatever whatever has left and then you go ahead and move on but uh to be able to keep the
money and not fulfill the obligation of playing it doesn't it doesn't seem it doesn't seem right
no that's that's not ethical that's not ethical at all that that is basically stealing
that's scamming and I'm glad that that colleges were
Georgia, specifically, is standing up and players should understand, make sure before you get
that NIL money, that's exactly where you want to be. Make sure it's exactly where you want
to be, you know, because once they invest in you, they want to return on that investment.
And if you want to up and leave, you have to make sure you understand before you're spending
people money, they're going to want it back. If you choose to up and you choose to uproot yourself
and go somewhere else. Yeah, look, we knew that at Ocho, I
I told you, I said, Ocho, they're going to do something about this.
They're not going to just let you take their money
and just go some wealth and go get some more money.
I didn't, oh, you can't even two weeks
that you and I was having this conversation.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
Two weeks ago, two weeks ago, exactly, you know, to date, honestly.
It's tough, you know, I, um,
look, you're dealing with 17, 18, 90s.
They don't really understand the ramifications of like,
you know, this is the,
the first time they're kind of like making real money,
Ocho, they're not really into the job market.
You know, it's not like, you know,
I'm playing football, but they're paying me to play.
So they don't really understand how contracts
and things of that nature work.
Right.
But, you know,
hopefully you have representation
that reads all the fine print.
Uh, uh,
I just think the thing is, Ocho,
it's, uh,
they need to do something by these agents.
That what they need to do.
These agents taking 20% of these kids money, Ocho.
20%
I'm positive.
20 is a high number.
Oh, yes, high.
When the NFL, they only take four percent, three to three to four percent.
Right.
Yeah, I'm, that's, that don't even sign right.
So whoever getting, whoever getting, I almost said the wrong word,
but whoever is getting taken advantage of where agents
taking 20% of your money, that shouldn't, that's, that's a no-no.
Oh, Joe, Brian Schotenheimer said he will have a conversation with George Pickens about the
social media post in which has since been deleted in response to criticism received from
Richard Sherman. Sherman said Pickens looked uninterested and disengaged during the Cowboys
40th 40th 30 laws to the Lions. I know somebody else that said that. Now, I don't have the
luxury of Sherm like watching it because I just got to look at, you know, got to look and try to look at
what I see, Sherman is actually there.
Pick is decided to clap back at Sherman
before deleting the post.
This is a team game.
Laugh my tail off.
I'm not the only one on the team.
Stop becoming an analyst and talking about one player
when he playing a team game.
Loss of ish has to go right.
Explosive plays is funny because I thought
former players would know that such as
Richard, you know,
Uh-huh, you know what,
Sherman, who between ain't is
without the Legion of Boom?
We all remember San Francisco, brother,
much love.
I mean, he got the ninjas.
Don't speak on me unless you know
the game of football as a player,
not a D-Riding fan analyst
that act like double team
is not a thing, or certain
bracket coverages don't exist,
knowing you play ball
which show me you a leech
weirdo.
Now, Twitter,
eat this up.
Klau.
Ocho.
Yeah.
I told you this.
I said, Ocho,
he drifted and he seemed
disinterested.
Did I, chat, did I not say that?
I said that, Ocho.
And when they show, no, if you
watch Sherman, when he showed it, you tell me
he was busting his ass, Ocho.
Because you told me we weren't going to have this problem.
Chat, Ocho say he had a,
This is what Ocho said, hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Oh, Cho said he had a, he had a call with Young Bull,
and I guarantee you, oh, you won't have those issues that he had in Pittsburgh.
That's what Ocho said, chat.
Go ahead, Ocho, take off.
Now, we don't have one problem.
We shouldn't have any.
Ocho, what do you mean?
We shouldn't have any.
What do you mean we got one problem?
One small, a, one small game.
Ocho, you said the man walking off the damn ball, Ocho.
the ball landed right here he didn't even stick his hands out and you said one oh the oh the deep ball
oh cho the deep ball what about the slant routes that he walked up what about the comeback they took
his ass out of the game for what do you mean one hold on hold on hold on hold on
i got i got i got a ready i got to register back to the to the cowboys game i remember i remember a few
plays i remember a few plays i know what you're talking about where it doesn't doesn't look like
he's coming off the way he should be or running his routes as hard as they should be remember
the comeback i remember the comeback reed was able to knock down uh the deep ball fell inside a little bit
he beat he beat the double coverage oh the dig route the what's the what you call the minnie dig
he would have to hug he had to hug that bitch back really friendly and the only way to get
back to the ball you have to be coming out the ball hard on that one too
yeah those three i do remember so yeah yes you you are correct you are correct
That's the only one you remember.
There were more.
The ball he got picked.
Oh, the bounce off the, uh.
Yeah, the one he was half assing.
Yeah, the one.
Yeah, that one.
Yep, that one.
Yep.
Yep, that one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The comeback on the sideline, it was four down.
I said, I said, I said,
back again.
Like, what are you doing?
Ocho, I get it bracket coverage.
That should mean you should bust your ass even more.
even more because what about the time that you're getting the ball and guys are
busting their ass for you to lift coverage off of you right so you can't say because
they're bracketing me because they're they're doing this exotic coverage like oh that gives
you the leeway to walk the bulljive no right but you know what also too you know what
I want to say also too and I know pick I know pick probably going to see this you have to understand
is he's such a immense talent and deck knows that the rules don't even count for you
there may be two or three players even if you are bracketed knowing what you can do
once the ball is strong your way if it's in the vicinity you can still make that play so
for everybody else when they bracketed they know the ball ain't coming but when someone like
you is bracketed you know when they play in high and low shit oh the ball is coming
what happened in philly old joe on that deep ball and feeling they had him double covered
oh yeah that through it he jumped up and caught it yeah and that's why in this game
In this game, you're like, man, listen, we don't care about them doubling you.
We don't care about you being bracketed.
Think he's still going to throw the ball.
Shoot, now you know.
Now you know it's still coming.
Especially once goddamn CD went out, well, we ain't got no choice.
Well, we got to have you.
I tell you.
Well, we got, we got to have you.
First of all, Illinois, look at Flanoy coming down hustling, getting it.
Mm-hmm.
My problem is, is that he's so talented.
is that coverage don't dictate how hard I work.
You see, he's letting coverage dictate how hard he works, Ocho.
You work how, okay, double.
I'm going to beat this double coverage because I'm Ocho.
First of all, I don't even see you.
I don't even know why you, I don't even know why you here.
I don't even know why you here.
You can't do that.
Coverage doesn't dictate.
The defense doesn't dictate how hard I work.
I get to determine that.
if the quarterback doesn't throw me the ball
the quarterback doesn't throw me the ball
but I'm going to bust it every time
because the last thing I want to happen, Ocho
and it always happens like this
when you don't bust it
that's when the ball comes.
Ball is coming every time
but that's one of the worst feelings boy
that's one of the worst feelings.
And then everybody's looking at you sideways
and because he's so
Ocho
bro
and you hear stories about being late
and doing this and I'm like bro
do you get it?
There's an opportunity for you to make, Ocho,
there's $35, $40 million at stake.
Ocho, I promise I'm going to be early in everything.
I ain't missing nothing, Ocho.
I ain't missing nothing.
Because I'm not going to give them a reason
not to want to give me my money
or put clauses in there where they can claw back money.
Yeah.
That's the last thing that you want somebody to do
to put clauses, Ocho, I got a weight clause.
I got a tartiness clause.
I got, no, no, no, no.
I don't need none of that.
No, no.
as a professional, I'm going to be pro
how I'll go about my business
I'm going to show up on time.
I get, sometimes things happen
but things can't happen 10, 15 times
a season.
Yeah, you're right.
You right?
I just, man, it's just,
I just hate to see guys
that have this kind of talent like he got.
Special boy.
He got, I mean, talking about
he got talent out of the yin-yang.
He can high point the ball.
He's tremendous run after the catch.
He's a big, he can play through contact.
That's what you love about the guy.
He can play through contact.
He's not, he's not thrown off easy like people putting hands on him
and it gets him off his rhythm.
That doesn't bother him.
The only person that can start,
the only person that can cover George Pickens is George Pickens.
Is him.
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.
That's it.
George, man, you got too much talent.
Don't get mad at Sherman.
because Sherm did his job by pointing out what you would do it.
You said you wanted guys.
They used to say, ex-athlete says,
I want guys that played the game.
And while you tried to dump on Sherm,
Sherman went to the Pro Bowl and was an all-pro in San Fran.
He was.
He was.
He was a part of the Legion of Boom.
There ain't no Legion of Boom without Richard Sherman.
There's not a Legion of Boom without Cam.
There's not a Legion of Boom.
So all of those, they're not interchangeable.
They made the Legion of Boom.
And once they started this, if that was the case,
once they started breaking it up,
there should be another one in there.
It should have never fell off.
But all of them, they work together.
All I'm saying, bro, you cannot let coverage dictate how hard you work.
And after that performance that you had against the 40,
against Kansas City,
and the one that you had against Philly?
Also, those are just the last two.
The way you had played, bro, you were second in receiving yards.
Yeah, and the funny thing about it is,
the funny thing about it is too is now after a game like that
where you had those issues,
you have those issues where you bracket it
and you think the ball is not coming your way
because I guarantee you, I guarantee you this.
In practice, in practice, when you,
You're bracketed, especially in the practice, the quarterback makes the right throw.
The quarterback makes the right read, and the ball doesn't come to you.
So when you get into the game, oh shit, where they bracketing me?
Well, fuck it.
I know the ball ain't coming.
Shit, the hell it ain't.
The hell it ain't.
Fulfing to let that thing go because he understands what you can do based on what you did in the past when you were double team.
I'm going to give him a shot.
I'm going to put it in the area because I know he's the one of the few individuals in the league.
Just forget the team in the league that can make that play with two people on him.
And the thing is, Ocho, probably they didn't anticipate this
because everybody else been playing them straight up
with the exception of a few coverages.
But here's the thing, Ocho.
When teams wanted to get T-O-off his game,
what did they do to him early, Ocho?
Try to frustrate him.
Bracketing him and beat him up at the line.
And so what?
Bracket him and beat him up at the line and frustrating.
So guess what, Ocho?
I got random also.
I got another receive over there.
All I'm going to do, this is what we're going to do.
We're going to make it really tough on him for the first quarter,
the first two quarters to get a pass.
First two quarter, yeah.
Get him off his game.
So now what a team's going to do, Ocho?
Put somebody in his face and put somebody over top.
Every time.
Every time that you don't want to do is to let know what,
see, when you let people know what can make your tick,
Ocho, they wind you up, make you tick when they want to.
Now, I know, oh, so you, you get that little bracket cover.
You ain't, we can frustrate you right.
You get a little frustrated.
So that's what I'm going to do to you.
Mm-hmm.
Knowing I got help over the top, I'm taking away to slam.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Go over the top.
I got help.
That's all, that's all, Pete.
Don't, don't, yeah.
Guys, y'all got to stop fake somebody meat, right.
Y'all got to stop fake, y'all got to think somebody.
Bro, so let me ask you a question.
Is there anything that Sharm said that was not true?
Now, if Sharm said something that wasn't true, you have every right to be upset.
Now, I want you to tell me the one thing Sharm said when he was pointing out what was going on with
what you were doing tell him the lie that he told right but you know what you know what also too
you got to remember you got to understand the players too today's players they don't they don't see
it as critiquing they don't understand that we're analyzed no most of them yeah it's considered
it's considered hating in just the way and obviously there's a certain way to deliver it but
obviously when the way it's delivered it can be seen as hate not it i don't think today's play
whatever look at it but you know what that's so-and-so he played the game maybe he
know what he's talking about maybe he's right maybe i check myself at the dough before i react
how about let me watch film first and go back and see what i look like so maybe they see
something i didn't damn i was bracketed but dack still threw the ball so that mean dac actually
believes in me you be able to make those plays no matter who the fuck is covering me okay boom all right
I got this.
I know what I know what to do.
Back to the drawing board.
Ocho, Sharm was calm.
All Sharm said,
I need you to give me better effort than this.
I need,
especially now that CD's out,
you're the guy.
Not saying you're not the guy with CDN,
but when CD out,
Dak is really going to want to lean on you.
And you're giving him this.
Sherm was as calm as he could be.
I know he was.
Because as player,
When we see stuff like this, we're seething.
We're seet because, come on, bro, don't because you mess it up because they say, see, that's, Ocho, you see?
Because that's what they take that saying, that's why we don't get these guys guaranteed contracts.
You see, if we give them that guaranteed money, Ocho, they're going to shut it off on us.
That's what, they'll use an isolated incident.
They'll forget the 50 guys that's playing hard all the time.
They'll take the one guy that take a game off or a player two off and use it to paint a broad,
paint a big picture of everybody is like that and it's not yeah right exactly yeah you're right
you're right absolutely and sure chat i tell you go list go watch shirn and how shirn was just as
calm shirn was just explained it look at this right right here look at this he's not busted
inside this is why the guy's able to that's what got why the guy's able to break up the slant
or when he's on the left hand side this is why the guy was it because he's not busted it all the way
in there and fighting through the ball that's
why he was able to get it out.
He said, throw the deep ball.
Bro, all you had to do was this.
And people got upset with Jared Judy.
I don't think Jerry Judy could have caught that ball.
It's hard for me to bleed that pick,
knowing who pick is and seeing the catches that he's made.
Oh, Joe, I think the thing,
if somebody
you got me
you right
that's the approach picture
you know what guy
because you know Ocho
they're playing at the game
I'm like Lord have mercy
boy I was a bull job
on that playwright the boy
they're going to kill
oh Lord have mercy
and listen and you can admit to yourself too
you could admit to yourself
you know what you yeah
that's me that's always
that's okay that been some games
I had some great games passing
they're like man sharp you ball out today
I said, boy, you won't y'all see that run blocking.
Boy, I was good and terrible.
I said, Lord, have mercy.
Yeah.
Ooh.
But you know it, Ocho, you, because you know what?
Guess who know you better than you?
You, you know you better than anybody.
We might, my man, but you pick, no.
That's why he got so upset about it because you know Sherin was right.
That's what we get upset, Ocho.
With somebody right
and they got us dead to right
Yeah
We try to get loud
To try to talk
Bro, you loud
You got a fight you get
Yeah, you got a fireback
and you get defensive
Hold on
Who the Cowboys play tomorrow?
No, the Cowboys don't play tomorrow
They play next Sunday
or next Thursday
Next Sunday
Don't they got the Vikings?
They got biking on Sunday
a week from Sunday, they got the Vikings.
Okay, okay, okay.
Oh, that's because they just played Thursday, huh?
Okay, all right.
That's, sometimes, Ocho, they get you.
Yeah.
Hey, that's you right there?
Because remember, Ocho, when they say that sky and the eye in the sky,
it don't care how much money is back.
As a matter of fact, it doesn't even know.
The eye and the sky doesn't know if you black or white.
All it does is capture what it's being pointed at.
Mm-hmm.
So you could go back and say, man, this is what I did.
Okay.
Cole put that thing on that thing.
Is that you right there?
What's your number?
He got a circle.
Is that you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's me.
So I asked you in the game, what did you do?
You said you did this.
Right.
So tell me, is this what we was coached to do?
Is this what we were asked to do?
Right.
When they got you, they got you.
Ain't nothing you can do bad, huh?
That's what PIC's going to have to do.
Pick, because you have to understand.
You're trying to outrun your past.
Mm.
Got to get that money, baby.
Boy, I'm doing my best behavior.
Gotta get that money.
but you're going to be okay.
Gotta get that busy.
Oh, Joe, call him up.
They say, don't get,
bro, you can't get defensive.
You were wrong.
Yeah.
And you know what?
He'd have got so many people on the side.
Sherman, you're right.
I got to be better than that.
Because I'm a better player
than what I displayed on Thursday night.
Not only did I let my teammates down,
not only did I let the fans down,
I let George Pickens down.
because when I walk by the mirror,
I don't see Cowboys teammates.
I don't see Cowboy fans.
I see George Pickens.
I let that guy down.
The one guy that I can count on,
even if I can't count on my teammates,
I know I should.
Even if I can't count on the fans,
I know I can count on George Pickens
because I know what George Pickens can do.
And I let that guy,
that man in the mirror, I let him down.
I would tell my teammates, bro, I'm sorry.
I let y'all down.
Ain't no guarantee we would have won the game.
But I damn sure didn't help the cause of us winning.
Yeah.
That's all you got to do, Pete.
You're better than this.
You are a much better player.
And you were doing so good.
So good.
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Cleveland plans to keep quarterback Deshawn Watson on his roster
into the 2026th season, according to Adam Shepter.
Watson has not played since ruptuous as Achilles,
October 20, 2024, 24 against the Bengals.
He retore the Achilles shortly there after.
The Browns believe Watson has contributed to their quarterback room
and provided a veteran presence and has had value for their rookie quarterbacks.
As it is, Watson has a salary cap of $81.7 million in 26,
which will be the highest in NFL history.
Oh, so check this out.
Moving on from Watson would be very costly as the Browns would incur
a $135 million dead cap hip
if they released him before June 1st
and a $53 million cap hit charge
if they were to designate him
for a post June 1st cap casualty.
You know what?
That's crazy, either way, either way it go.
It's a lose, lose for the Browns.
So what do they do with him next year?
I mean, you've been-
his money already guaranteed.
I might as well get, Ocho, let me ask you a question.
If you already don't pay for the car,
I don't even like his car no more.
I'm going to drive it.
It's paid for.
I'm going to drive that more for.
Right.
I got it.
His money guaranteed in 26.
$46 million is guaranteed.
So I'm going on that.
Let's see if you can win a game but two for us.
I ain't lied on,
Joe.
I mean,
unless they really,
really want him bad,
gone bad.
But like he's,
said he hadn't been a problem uh he hasn't it hasn't been worked it hasn't worked out as they'd hoped
but he's been they say he's been a veteran presence he really helped the quarterback locker
room yeah so so you you see him staying you stay you see him staying be after after this year
i do i do that's good that's good that's good that's good that's good that's good
that's good um because i think they're going to let should door i think they're going to let
sure try to finish out these last five games yes so and see because they're going to have to make
a decision do we have the quarterback that can take the cleveland browns look what's in that division
right you got joe burr and you got lamar jackson i think Pittsburgh i think erin rogers is going to
go to leave this year i think this is last year he's like no uh i'm not going to win another
championship I'm not close to winning a championship let me go home I don't
took enough punishment 20 years 21 years how many years he played I'm about to
be 42 years of age I'm good he's done but you still got to compete with Lamar
Jackson and Joe Burrow and without a he got I don't care how good your defense
is without a quarterback you don't have a chance the best defensive player in
football and it's not close yeah y'all not close matter of fact division or
winning a playoff game or winning a championship.
So without a quarterback, you can't compete.
You know, it's funny.
The Browns would be able to compete even for a championship, too,
without having a quarterback if they had a Miles Garrett type player
at each position on defense.
I'm being honest.
How are you going to pay him, though?
So you're going to have every other,
every officer player on a rookie contract making league minimum.
Hey, that's, that's the only way.
And Miles Garrett at every position.
According to Philly reporter, Ashland Sullivan,
the Eagles have installed a positivity rabbit in the locker room.
It showed up today and the offensive line stressed to me,
they are not sad.
They just wanted a goodbye bunny.
What, what is this?
That's the bunny?
Yeah.
In the locker room.
You being serious?
Oh, yeah.
Or is this AI?
No, I don't know if you can see.
Can you see those cameras?
Can you see that eagle?
Do you see those Super Bowl logo?
I mean, I don't understand this.
I think Sanko I was talking about it at some point in time.
I don't understand this.
Taking up a lot of space.
I know that.
A lot, because it looked.
It looked big as hell.
Hold on.
Why do you take your buddy?
Why I got to say Happy Easter,
here we are in Smackdown in December.
Yeah, I think, Uncle, I think this AI.
No, it's real.
Happy Easter.
Easter was back in April.
I guess they say y'all laying eggs.
That's what the bunny.
That's funny.
I mean, I guess to each is on,
whatever needs to do.
You know, they try.
Ocho, you know they try everything, bro.
Ocho, you don't have been in the locker room
with y'all losing.
And you know they try something everything.
Yeah, all the time.
I know what you're talking about.
Try, hey, bro, you got to break that bad.
People superstitious.
For real, though.
Yeah.
Hey.
If we losing, I try it.
I go touch the bunny every day.
Rub his head and everything.
Man, I think I won't winnie Wood.
Ocho, it's time to play on Fade, presented by prize picks.
All right, Joe Burrow, more than 251 pass of yards, more.
Yes, what kind of question is that?
Anytime Joe Berger plays against the Buffalo Bills,
he throws for more than 2050 yards.
That's competent.
Okay, yeah, okay, we go.
It clouded.
Okay, and they got, uh, uh, uh,
Higgins coming back.
Okay, I'm going.
And Joy Bolster's out.
And Bernard is out in it.
Yeah, I'm going more.
Even if he was there.
We didn't know if he's not there, so there's that.
Quinn John Judkins, uh, more than, uh,
he's going to have a touchdown, at least one touchdown.
Oh, yeah, of course.
Oh, the Brown.
They're playing the Titans, they plan the Titans.
Oh, yeah, yeah, they'll get one, yeah.
J.J. McCarthy less than 187 passing yards.
Shoot.
Who they play?
Hey, hey, he's so inconsistent, Unc, ain't no telling what he going to do.
Oh, he out tomorrow.
Isn't he out?
I thought he was out.
Where did they play it?
How many yards did Bo Knicks have?
No, I guess
Go Knicks.
Commanders.
Hey.
Hey, who do the Broncos play?
Yeah, J.J. McCarthy.
187 yards.
He bad.
Ocho, he bad.
Ooh,
JJ?
Yeah.
But see, the problem is the tidings
can have a big day.
All right, we're going to go less.
Even though I think Hawkinson can have a big day.
Zach Ertz, more than four receptions.
More.
More.
No, he don't get no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no.
He's JJ McCarthy.
You don't get to go get called by your number
we use some stir fry.
And you don't get to give yourself that.
You don't get to give yourself a name.
Talk about nine.
Bro, you J.J. McCarthy, you J.J.
That is reserved for better players.
Yeah.
There's some good games tomorrow,
but.
Yeah, for sure.
Hey, Chicago, Green Bay.
Houston can't be really, really good.
man the commander is going to beat
you know what out of the Vikings
Seattle
oh you know
we definitely beat Buffalo
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also per Chris Haynes
during the Clippers lost to the Mavs,
Chris Paul told Kauai to switch off Clay
because he was struggling to keep up.
Jeff Van Gundy shut that down immediately.
You might have had leeway in other places
to change defensive coverages,
but you don't have that leeway here.
Video also surfaced of Tailu catching Chris Paul
talking to his girl.
Ocho?
Yeah.
Everybody tried to tell me, whoa, shudder.
That, I'm telling you.
You don't get the same privileges every locker room that you go into,
especially if you're not that same player able to play at that level.
See, y'all talk about when you don't know basketball,
I'm telling you how locker rooms function.
Right.
I'm telling you, you can't take that same way.
I used to do this.
I used to do that.
Ocho, when I went to the Baltimore Ravens,
I wasn't the same player, and I didn't have the same voice.
I wasn't as outgoing boisterous.
But, you know, I would pull certain guys to the side.
I ain't trying to don't do this, don't do that,
don't listen to the coach.
I don't know why y'all think.
Go ahead, Ocho, what do you think of you?
Right, no, you're right.
You're right.
I'm understanding.
I got a better understanding of it,
how it works.
Obviously, I would think someone of Chris Paul's caliber,
his resume, his accolades, you know, on the court,
just having the respect that he does, you know,
amongst his peers,
I thought he would have carried a little bit more weight,
but now with me talking to other NBA players,
they help me understand that at that point,
you know, and you get to a point of your career,
where you got to be self-aware.
What you were able to pull off when you were younger
and you were that guy, it just doesn't work later on in your career.
So now that I know, and I'm hearing it from other players
that played the game and were really good at what they do,
they understand, and they have self-awareness
and knowing that, you know what, I can't pull it off right now.
I can't pull it off.
You don't have that.
He's not that player that can do what,
he once did.
Jev ain't going to say it so much.
I mean, Jeffey didn't say you might have had
leeway to change that, but you can't do that here.
You're not going to do that here.
And I understand it too.
Can you imagine chasing Clay ass around
off them goddamn screams and picks
and having to try to squeeze
to a bowl over the top?
Well, your cardio got to be on point, man.
Shoot.
Because Clayfin and catching shooting
and embarrass you all night.
Yeah.
I don't know if it was AI, but there was a clip
that was surfaced in the back.
T. Lu said,
F. Chris Paul.
or CP or something, something that.
I just think the thing is that, look,
they brought him there for leadership.
Yes.
Leadership looked different in different places.
The way you led one place,
that doesn't necessarily mean you can lead that way
at this place.
Plus, that's James Hardin.
They got a veteran club.
It's not the same as when you was in OKC
and you had shape and you had all those young guns.
It's different.
Kauai is proven commodity.
James Hardin has been an MVP.
Zuboss is six, seven, eight years.
They don't have a young team.
So your voices, what is needed from you is different at a different location.
And when you was in Oklahoma.
And you have to understand that.
Understand, I'm not the same CP3.
As a matter of fact, Ocho, he cliffed Paul.
He ain't Chris Paul.
He cliffed Paul.
Who is Cliff?
All state, uh, state farm agent, the other half.
Hey, that's a good one.
He clipped.
That's a good one.
And he forgot, he thought he was Chris.
No, bro, you clear.
Right.
Clip doesn't have the same say.
He doesn't have the same leeway, the freedom, the liberties that Chris Paul had.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
I like that one.
That was a good one.
man you know it had to be bad don't you know it had to be bad don't you the man saying this is
last year and it and they did this at 3 a.m. in the morning they had a conversation with this man
3 a.m. in the morning do you know how bad it got to be for your team to call you at 3 a.m. in the
morning and say your services the little bit of services that you were providing is no longer
need or no longer neither yeah and you know you know we we only get we only get most of the most of the
story on surface level there are more layers that we don't know about that i'm sure that is that that uh transpired
that made it happen that way and we we know the beginning we know the end all the stuff in between
the good stuff that we don't know about will take will be a uh a tall tale and why why it ended up
after after like this at three in the morning.
Yeah.
Ocho, Lord, have mercy.
A recent study on average sex duration
countrywise is as followed.
Look at the board, Ocho.
Ecuador, 24 minutes.
So as y'all can see, United States is two minutes.
Boy, I'm so glad I ain't Pakistani.
I can't, I can't, hey, I can't even see that, huh?
Well, you're going to open that good out you got.
Yeah, it's open.
I just, hey, look at Pakistani.
42 seconds.
That's what Pakistan is.
That's what the average duration is 42.
The United States is two minutes.
Yeah, that's me right there.
That's me.
I represent us very well.
Because it don't, it don't, it don't take long for me to get,
In and out.
I'm here,
I'm here by business.
You know,
you know,
I'm here by business.
Hey,
old Ecuador,
you know,
say,
oh,
Ecuadorian,
that's what they call me.
What,
what Ecuador is saying?
Number one,
24 minutes.
Yeah,
they ain't,
they ain't got no way to go.
Asked to you.
Oh,
there we go,
there we go,
here we go.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Okay,
24,
Ecuador,
Cameroon,
23.
Okay, Cuba,
22.
Jamaica 17
Yeah, anything over five minutes
Unk? Yeah, you can count me out
Because, I mean, what are we doing?
What are we trying to accomplish?
Yeah, I don't.
I'm trying to accomplish.
I, listen, I don't have the time.
I got places to be.
I got places to be.
Anything.
He ain't got no way to be.
Hey, I got a simple motto.
If I take the time to do it,
I'm going to take the time to do it right.
Oh, I got you.
I feel you, and I'm going to take the time to do it right under five minutes.
So you might be Pakistani.
Yeah, I mean, I'm like, I mean, that's ridiculous.
I don't even know what y'all do.
I don't even know what's really going on with Pakistan.
20 seconds, I mean, 42 seconds.
In and out, huh?
That ain't even in and out, no time for folk play.
Listen, we got, we got stuff to tend to.
China, minute 24, Turkey, 150.
You have two minutes.
So what about all
them guys
What about all the people that go 10 minute
15 20 30
for the average time
So let me ask you quite
Think about it Ocho
If the average time is 42 seconds
What about the people that are just in
I mean
Yeah
That happens
That happens
Especially when it comes the excitement
First person, first time
First encounter
Yeah the first time you're excited.
The first time you're excited.
Everybody excited.
Right.
Everybody is at their crescendo.
Everybody is at the apex, their zenith,
that day new war.
Yeah.
So you had to hide, you could be like, oh, I think, oh, my goodness.
Yeah, yeah, it happens.
I just, to me, I'm just, I'm just being honest for someone like myself.
You know, I've been, I've been around the moon.
I didn't see in the stars.
I didn't climb mountains, high in Mount Everest.
and anything over five minutes
at that point it becomes performative
is as if you're putting on the show
I am.
What you're there to accomplish
it doesn't take 10, 15 minutes
because if it takes you that long to get there
then the person you wait
the faster you learn that individual's body
the less of the time
you have to be in the day bedroom.
I do keep doing curtain calls.
You talking about performing
if you're talking about the art,
I get a card call.
They keep clapping.
I keep coming back out.
My thing, hey, you know what on Joe?
Hey, I'm staying away from Pakistani women.
Because if they only, if you can only do 42 seconds, I won't no part of that.
Hey, where you shot out?
I don't know part of that.
So let me see who here.
That's a good one.
Cameroon 23, Bolivia 23, Sudan 22 and a half, 22.9, Cuba 22,
Honduras 21.5, India, 19.19 minutes.
34 seconds, Jamaica, 17 minutes, Senegal, Ghana, Venezuela, South Africa, eight minutes, Peru, seven minutes, Kenya, six minutes, Puerto Rico, four minutes.
Oh, sure, I thought we were going to Puerto Rico.
Hold on, huh?
We ain't going to Puerto Rico no more.
Hey, listen, more importantly, I mean, how did they do this study?
I mean, that's, that's more concerning to me.
How did they do the study?
How many people were a part of this study?
I mean, do you know how many individuals you would have to have to take into account and deal with to be able to, like, assess that everyone in these regions last this long?
Well, we know the top ten, there ain't no Ocho's in those cities, those countries.
We know that.
Yeah, I mean, well, well, I look, I look, I look, I look, Senegalese, you know, I look Jamaican.
No, I think you look more Bangladeshi, Pakistani.
Okay, that's fine.
I can deal with that.
I can deal with that.
Man, damn.
I mean, I give you, Ocho, Ecuador might be a bit much.
But can we find a happy medium?
Okay, if we say 24 minutes is a bit much,
I mean, we got to admit 42 seconds.
is not enough okay we listen we got to have balance you got to have balance you
have to find somewhere okay go about 14 minutes ain't a mount man
anybody got time for all that bro huh hey anybody come on man listen you know how
long one round is in a boxing fight you have 10 minutes is you know how long
three up I'm talking about a real yes that's it's long as hell but oh Joe
ain't nobody died in the first round
because everybody feeling it out
you feeling it out
oh so you come in this
throw and blow you coming in soon as they say
ping you just
no no no no not really
not really but I don't let me be honest
you know how long 24 minutes is
yes like yes exactly
that's long as hell like
that's just I burn on diesel
you know diesel fuel
okay yeah the longer it burned the cool it get
Yeah, yeah
That's too much
As a matter of fact
Until they came along with electricity
What do all the 18 wheelers burn on
Diesel
The longer they burn the cooler they get
Mm-hmm
Uh-huh
International
Peterbilt
You're right
I'm still on probation
So I'm bid
Hey chat
Y'all know I am
Are you good?
You know, I'm just saying this is this day.
You're going to out.
I'm going to wait to 26.
I'll tell you what.
Anybody in Bangladesh or Pakistani
that watch a nightcap,
we got some roast parks for you.
We got rose parks for you.
I'm trying, you know what?
I'm trying to break in.
I'm trying to, you know,
I'm trying to get my product in those countries.
Okay, hey, that's a good one
That's a good one
Help y'all out
Because this is ridiculous
Forty two seconds
To get your pants
Get your clothes off, Ocho
It does
But you don't count that
You don't count it
You don't count it from the clothes off part
Yeah, I mean 42 seconds
I mean
Nah
Nah.
Damn.
42 seconds, Ocho.
Yeah, that's bad.
But five minutes is enough.
It's enough.
I'm timing.
I'm going 42 seconds.
That's what the average Pakistani have six.
Yeah.
That's good.
Yeah that's it we got two seconds boom that's it you done that's all you need
right there oh oh no oh no hey and you wake up and listen you wake up in the
morning both of y'all got to go to work hey before we leave in and out
mm-mm I like that I okay Ocho I get that if that's a okay hey we we at
hey, we about to go to a party or we about to go to somewhere.
Baby, we ain't, we ain't, we ain't, baby, we going to be late.
I get that.
If you want, if you want to get a quickie.
Right.
But nah, man.
I mean, listen, every, every, every culture is different.
Every culture is different.
Hey, you know, they got plate.
Oh, Ecuador, I'm from Ecuador.
So I don't know what they got going on over here.
I just, I just don't, you know, I'm saying, Ocho.
I just speak of America.
but I'm Ecuador, I speak English, but I'm Ecuadorian.
Okay.
I'm not.
I ain't nowhere near.
Ain't got that, ain't got that kind of time.
What you got, what you doing?
I got places to be.
I don't too.
I got, I got, I got places to be.
Oh, dang.
There's too much time.
Hey, you don't know, be like, God dang.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know.
Every, Ocho, I get it.
Quick as a good.
Quick as a good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But not every time.
No, I'm, listen, it's different.
It's different.
I mean, I'm, that's, I mean, I'm five minutes or less.
That's it.
This ain't the circus.
I'm not here to prove no point.
I get it, Ocho.
You know, back in the day, you know me, I was TNB.
Y'all know what TNB stand while and you're saying I'm still on probation.
You know,
I'm like the amusement part.
Amusement part, rise, don't laugh at 90 seconds.
No matter how high, how they go,
some of them, they go 300 feet, go 60, 70 miles an hour.
90 seconds is all you get.
Give you the thrill of your life.
Yeah, get you something to talk about.
That's it.
Get you something to talk about something
to write down in your diary.
But sometimes.
That's it.
And that don't take 24 minutes.
But sometimes, I'm like a 100-story building.
I'm stopping on every floor the elevator.
Bing!
somebody getting the order
off, Ocho. That's all I'm saying, Ocho.
That's all I'm saying. You know you're
a hundred story building, you got a, you got
90 flows. And then somebody
doesn't hit every flow in between.
Hit every flow, see?
Damn. That's too much.
That's too much.
That's too much.
You're just saying?
Mm-mm.
Well, like I said,
anybody from
Pakistan or Bangladesh
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All right, Ochoo, it's time for our final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q and A.
Q&A.
Kim, Norwood, Jr., said, Ocho,
all I want for Christmas is for you to give up his $5,900
so he can buy him a watch or an outfit.
Yeah, I need a little criminal outfit.
I mean, just a little crimmer outfit.
Just a little criminal, a little, some, criminal.
You know, I got you.
I appreciate that, Ocho.
That show will be nice.
Merry Christmas.
Big Mike, 77, 23, Coach Prime.
Coach Prime pull up Frank Lucas in Cleveland.
Don't mess with Blue Magic.
No, are they playing in Cleveland or they're playing in Tennessee?
Oh, okay.
Okay, okay, okay.
you said okay Ozzy to go now hold on man I see that stat differently I think this
vows for Pakistani women over there Ecuador women something tells me there is a
a Houston and Pakistan and I'm willing to find out for all of us what say you're
bro let me go let me know where you go let me know like I said I don't want no package
and they they can put it down like that make you do that make you
rob it off in 42 I want that man man ohcho you know hot dog the hot dog in the
microwave too many is going to explode you can't put a hot dog in the microwave for 42
second and have it explode yeah we may you have to think maybe over there they're not as
active as we are here in the states they're not they maybe they're not as active so
the few time that they do do those horizontal interactions that's the result that's the only thing
i could think of okay yeah yeah but uh i ain't up into pakistan but
i'm willing to go brandon crow 3403 for how state to have all that talent and suck in the reds
speaks volume to coaching, they have issues with big games.
Bro, the man just won a national championship.
If you go back and look, he has one of the best win percentage of all coaches.
How about we give an Indiana little credit?
I know, I know, but Indiana is better than what you thought.
Because we was wondering, okay, yeah, they're blowing these teams out,
but who have they played?
They played Ohio State on a neutral field, and they beat them.
You make it seem like, what about IU?
in the red zone.
Yeah.
You make it seem like IU didn't get to the red zone.
They kicked, what, three, what, kick, uh, uh, uh, two field, kick two field goes
Mr. Nava.
Mm-hmm.
It works both ways, bro.
Ohio State got out played today.
Signetti and his team outplayed him.
It's okay.
Hey, Uncle Ocho, do you have any ridiculous
or funny recruiting stories
from when you were in high school?
Damn, I can't remember that.
Damn, high school?
No.
There ain't nobody recruited my badass.
El Prade 98.
Oh, you should consider interviewing
Bill Bellamy or Donnie Simpson.
The story is gold.
Now back to regular schedule program.
Ocho, pay this man 59, Honda.
I got you.
Hey, chat.
Yes.
I got a joke for you
Oh Lord
Oh we're not going to wait till the end to get the joke
Go ahead, Ojo
Get the joke off
Nah, it ain't that bad
A chat
Y'all listening
Yeah, we're listening
How does a hamburger
Introduce his girlfriend
How does a hamburger
Introduce his girlfriend
Yeah
Pleased to meet you
No
How
Hi, meet Patty.
Chat, I did not prove with this message.
Mr. Robinson, 67, 65, Duke broke the college football player now, first time in college football history.
two G5 team making the playoffs that college football right there.
Duke can't go into the college football.
They're not, hold on, do ACC get automatic bid?
Yeah, not Duke, though.
No.
Okay.
Collider scope one, feeling good tonight.
Thanks, Duke.
JMU is in the playoffs as a 12 seed.
Go Dukes.
Yeah, looks that way.
As your dad, uh, Ocho, how about them dogs?
Nate Frazier that dude.
When in the chip this year,
you need to start rooting for your home team.
I'm going to root for Nate Frazier.
Uh,
hoot, who,
uh,
Dr.
Bryant is not a real doctor.
Bro,
we're having a conversation.
Y'all finds up,
I mean,
if there any guests that you guys have liked,
you find something wrong with every guess I got.
I mean,
I mean,
Oprah didn't always have A-lister.
She had different people.
She interviewed Klu-Cluk clan members.
She interviewed this one,
murderers this she interviewed some of all people why do you have a problem with who i have on a
platform if if dr brian is not your cup of tea just fast forward just don't even watch that episode
i thought she was interesting i enjoyed the conversation that we had i did i thoroughly did
hopefully a lot of people enjoyed the conversation but if they did that's okay yeah i'd like to think
i've had a very eclectic group of people from influencers entertainers uh athletes celebs
I think I've had
over the 150, almost 200
interviews that have done, I would like
to think. Everybody's not
going to like every person that I've interviewed.
No. And that's okay.
But I tried to find a very
diverse group of people
that can share their story, which
she did, and
I don't get caught to
that. My job is not to interrupt,
my job is not to be belligerent
and come off as confrontational.
That's not what I'm there for.
They come on my platform, I allow them to tell their story, unedited,
I ask them to any questions that they don't want to talk about,
and I move on from there.
She was fine, but if that's not who y'all guys wanted to lease, too,
it's fine.
I'm cool with it.
Maybe you'll like the next guess we have on.
If not, maybe the next guess.
O.C. underscore Lofton, Indiana 1, Georgia, 2, Ohio State 3, Texas Tech 4,
Oregon 5, A&M 6, Ole Miss 7, Oklahoma 8, Miami,
Notre Dame 9 and 10
Tulane 11 James Madison 12
We'll see
We shall see
But it definitely doesn't help
Miami
Miami lost to Louisville
And who else they lose to? They lost to somebody else
that was not very
SMU
Yeah SMU
SMU
SMU
Yeah
yeah uh ben frank 87 t minus 25 days before unc get back you've been giving us snippets the last few weeks
keep up the great work unc and ocho yep 26 we own el pray 98 uh add nate to the unc and ocho adventures
now we're going to clue going to be in a couple of um uh the florida man unc ocho solid interview
with Nate Frazier should try
to interview Kirby and visit UGA
practice.
Dev the Dundee 74,
hopefully, unc says my name right
this time. Love you guys.
Uncan Ocho, your favorite
R&B songs that just
never gets old, that
always make you feel good
even though it ain't 26.
I'm all, I mean, most of the songs
that I listen to.
It's old school.
Love, train, compunction.
Send for me, Atlantic Star.
Lenny Williams.
You know I love you.
I'm just old school like that.
I like, who is the guy?
LTD used to be lead singer.
Jeffrey Osborne.
I listen to Jeffrey Osborne.
I'm in the old school that's all I listen to is the groove when I get my car is all grooves
don't listen nothing else so that's what we yeah we we on the same path I mean my favorite song
obviously Lenny Williams LTD all those boys Jeffrey Osborne uh but I'm gonna go my favorite
old school song Nat King Cole and it's called Nature Boy just just listen listen to that that's one
just just put you in the mood man
get you a nice cigar nice look you know cabotino little espresso kick your feet up and put that
thing on repeat Obama phone pro max 5G how about them Hoosiers are you they did it they're going
to be the number one suit they're going to be the number one seed uh and deservingly so
tarnets g 95 99 y'all see that boy pit bull tonight ohcho watched a little bit of it I was
you know tried to give you a great show here I didn't watch pit bull
Yeah.
Vinny the Tall.
Georgia just looked like making out physical anyone.
I really don't see any team in the CFP winning in the trenches.
Indiana be right there.
Indiana,
I like Georgia.
And Georgia is physical, yes.
But Indiana ain't taking the back seat to nobody, bro.
You watched them.
You watched them.
Yeah.
Real calling, happy holidays, Lunkinocho.
Is it too soon to get excited about my Panthers with the Bucks playing the Saints tomorrow?
Can't look ahead.
You got to take care of this.
A, Saints' defense can get out for you.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, the only problem with the Saints,
then you've got no damn offense.
But see, the thing is,
is that we got a couple of tableways.
We sack your quarterback,
force a turnover, get a pick,
block a punt, scoop and score.
Yeah.
Level of playing field.
R.B. Capp.
But's ditto.
Although this question is quite simple,
can you recall a game
whether in high school or college or NFL,
where you had the most fun playing and why?
Every game?
I mean, it's hard not to have fun playing this game, Mocho.
Yeah, it is.
Especially high school, you know, them the good time, man.
And the good times.
The difference is NFL is a job.
You understand that, yeah, you have fun,
but you still, you still, it's still a job.
It is a job.
you get paid a kid you get paid a king's ransom to play a kid's game obviously and the fun
you go along high school was fun you know you get a lot you know guys you that you play that
you grew up with you know you've been knowing them since kindergarten college you know you to build
but i always i always have fun don't you because i really i really enjoyed doing what i did
yeah and i think that's why i was so successful at it
It's because I did have fun.
I didn't look at it.
I didn't, it was a job, but I didn't look at it as that.
I did not.
C-note 304-U.
If you could build an idea with speed, riles, running height,
using NFL players past the present.
I won't reek speed.
I want Randy Moss height.
I want Brandon Lloyd's hands.
I'll take Ocho's route running.
I would take my brother's physicality.
And I wanted to be
Megatron's weight.
Drabrizi 37, what's your go-to
sub-order and toppings?
I don't get no toppings.
I get a ketchup, medium.
I get a burger, medium, ketchup only.
I want no cheese.
I want the onions.
I want no lettuce.
I want no tomatoes.
Every once in a while, every once in a while,
maybe like twice a year, I'll get bacon on it.
That's it.
Well, on a cheeseburger?
I have a burger.
I don't get cheeseburgers.
Yeah, I get, I get, I get, I mean, you know, you know me.
You know me with them burgers and burgers and burgers and hot dogs, but that's me.
That's why I was like going, oh, I already know what you want.
Burger, meat and bun.
As come back with the whole kitchen on her burger.
She got an avocado, she got lettuce, she got tomatoes.
I'm like, well, damn.
Can you taste the meat?
Can you taste the meat every, I ain't never seen somebody get every topic.
They got like 15 topics.
And it's like, man, I think I'm going to get the burger with you.
The hamburger is $7.
By the time as you get done ordered, the burger $25.
Because it's $1.50 for every topic that you get.
And she got every last one of them.
Yeah.
That's funny.
I like, no.
That concludes this episode of Nightcap.
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