Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Unc, Ocho, & Iso Joe react to Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin Bromance

Episode Date: July 31, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Mike Tomlin saying him and Aaron Rodgers have a bromance, Stephen Jones elaborates on how they deal with contracts in Dallas, & Bears Rookie gets chewed out by Ben Johnson at practice, and much more!   1:00:25 - Demar Derozen said Bball YNs different1:08:15 - Trey Hendrickson pulled up to camp to avoid being fined 1:16:15 - Tomlin and Rodgers gotta Bromance1:23:20 - Davante Adams clears the air with Jimmy G1:29:30 - Stephen Jones on some BS about contract negotiations1:37:40 - Luther Burden III kicked off field1:45:15 - MPJ spoke about Nets practice facilities1:48:45 - Draft Kings asked AI to rank best franchise by sport1:52:45 - Jalen Ramsey wearing $5 on his shoulder pads at training camp1:55:10 - Cam Ward says he got a target on his back1:57:25 - Trent Williams frustrated during practice cause Bosa keeps beating him2:00:55 - Q & Ayyyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Demar said, I see that mofo put his name on Twitter search at halftime to see what they were saying. Joe, that misbehavior like this, Joe. Hey, it's, hey, in this new era, it's a lot different, fellas. Halftime, he ain't lying. Now, I'm sure, you know, a lot of these teams gonna put these stipulations in where these guys

can't be using their phone at halftime, but a lot of these cats, man, they own their phones at halftime, checking to see what's going on. It's just a, it's almost like a habit. It's a part of who they, man, they on their phones at halftime checking to see what's going on. It's just a, it's almost like a habit. It's a part of who they are and what they do. They can't help it. You sitting in your locker room,

first thing you do, pick up your phone, you go to scrolling. Yeah. We ain't, hey, now at a, like in a practice, like they get a break. Yeah. Guys go get on the phone then, you know what I'm saying? You know, call somebody.

But boy, I can't even imagine, Ocho, can you imagine somebody doing that at halftime of a game? Did that ever happen? Hey, I can't even talk trash, y'all. Cause my crazy ass, I tweeted on the sideline in the middle of the game, in the middle of the preseason game.

You remember that? You remember that? Yeah, I wouldn't agree with that, but preseason. But I'm talking about the regular, they talking about regular season. No, no, no, you know, I wouldn't do nothing like that, but I think we were playing Philly in the preseason and I got hit real good.

I'm talking about in the real good, to the point where I had to go and let everybody know I was okay. The tweet might still be up. Well, if you didn't take it down, yeah, it's still up. It's still up there. We were playing the Eagles in the preseason and I forgot the dude's name.

White fella, you know, he's really good, War 55. I can't remember his name, but he caught me on the slam. Ooh, woo! I wanted to say bruh, it's preseason, but I had to sit there for a little minute before I got up. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, No. Hey, we in different times, Joe. And now guys getting paid in college and high school too? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. We in different times. College is a professional sport now.

It is. Yeah, it's a professional sport. It is. And you see what they doing? You see they trying to limit. You see they trying to limit the NIL, Ocho. You see that, right? Yeah, they trying.

You know why they trying to limit it, Joe? Right, talk to me. Because the people that get the money, who they look like. Hey listen, hold on, while you talking, they say they were gonna start doing a little back pay on their, I went and checked in on it, but they only going back like 10 years. Damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can fuck off, Joe.

Are you trying to get a little back pay, huh? I'm just trying to see what going on, Joe. I ain't trying to rough it up, I'm just trying to see what going on. I got you, to roughen up. I'm just trying to see what going on. I got you. Without I know they go back to damn your 40 years. That's what it'd be for me. That's y'all went to school today. So I know I get nothing. It's a matter of state. I had nobody

to be paid. Nobody got nobody got no money to pay nobody now. So I know they get no back pay. I don't I don't I don't get this. Like I say, guys, when you hear you nobody now. So I know they ain't getting no back pay. But I don't get this. Like I say, guys, when you're here, you're here. Now, when you home, okay, be there. Do what you want to do. You want to tweet, you want to do whatever you want to do. But I'm confused. At the half of a game, you checking what people saying

on Twitter, IG, whatever the case may be. Really? Hey, you thinking you probably too locked in even they even care about that at that point that's what i was yeah yeah i would be thinking like that's why our phones are such a distraction nowadays man you gotta think when i was in college they are and i know y'all a little older than me but when i was in college we didn't have cell phones man we have cell phones man We have their phones Now it was so expensive without

Huh? You have a cell phone. No, man. You go get your calling card call whoever you want to call That's how y'all talking you talk that card up you go get your nut Or you get somebody else call the car I had a phone Joe. I had a little raise you get somebody else calling I don't know what, I don't know. I had to say, but at that point, but see the thing, it was different. I mean, it was different. People, I mean, they took that stuff serious, man. And I think the thing is now, Joe,

is that like a lot of the veterans have been like ushered out and so they're getting younger and younger. Yeah. And they, you know, and so all this stuff that are doing now, but yeah, that would be the man, that would be, ooh, ooh, goodness gracious. Times have changed.

It is. Times have changed. You couldn't even. The money, go ahead Joe. Could y'all even fathom like the things that you could get into as a kid, bro, in this time and era to where you got all these devices, whether it's phones, iPads, it's just too much, man.

There's so many distractions nowadays. It's hard to keep a lot of these dudes focused, man. It is. Yeah, it is. It is too much. They gotta want it. They gotta want it. They gotta want it. That's the only thing.

You gotta really want it to be able to function and lock in during these times. You gotta want it. You do. You do. You gotta okay prioritize what's important, what's really important. Right. Right. And what's a must have. Absolutely right. And the thing is like, who am I checking in on? They know where I'm at. I'm at a game.

Man, what you doing? Playing the game. Okay, you called me on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, oh, you called me at 10 o'clock, 10, 30 in the morning. Man, what you doing? Practice. I'm watching film, I'm studying. What are you doing?

You should, first of all, why you calling me? You should be at work too. I never understood that, Ocho. I don't, I didn't. I didn't understand why guys would get out of meeting and they go get on the phone. Bro, you know what your, unless somebody, I get it. Okay, your wife and your girlfriend, pregnant,

expecting, kids sick, I get that. But, your wife and your girlfriend, pregnant, expecting, kids sick, I get that. But y'all gonna, first of all, if you go get on the phone like this here, you ain't checking in to see if somebody's sick. No, I already do, hey. No, it's Hamadiyah. But, you good over there? No, she probably still,

probably left a little chick at the house, so you know you gotta check it and make sure she good in between means. Make sure she got something to eat. I said, man, it's different, Joe. I mean, think about it. Think about when you came in and when you left. Now think about the time,

10 years from now, what it's gonna be like. The NBA gonna join it. They gonna join in on all the fun, all this stuff these dudes doing. They gonna have activities for post game halftime. You know, the interview, the interview guys will decide like, we're gonna have that cause you know, sometimes they talking to the,

they talking to the managers and things like that. They'll find a way to capitalize. You're right, they'll find a way to capitalize. You're right They'll find a way to capitalize Good news what you got? Oh good news No, go ahead Joe, what were you gonna say Joe? No, go ahead. I'm listening Trey Hendrickson Reported to bingles camp and told reporters things are exactly the same with contract talks What I'm not going to do is be a distraction.

Excuse me. Trey isn't practicing, but is back strictly to eliminate the $50,000 daily fine. Trey was seen coaching Shamar Stewart. Also, Ocho, are you feeling optimistic? I'm Jay Koufer and this is Back 40, a limited series show on Wired to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters podcast network. Each episode, I'll be asking eight wide tail hunting pros a

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I'm assuming it must be far off. The only reason he's there is because I don't wanna accumulate a certain amount of fines. 50,000 a day. They can't rescind. They gotta take it. I'll be there too. One thing about it, and one thing I know about the Brown family,

what you're not gonna do is you're not gonna bully Mike Brown. You're not gonna bully Mike Brown. It's not happening. If his feet are cemented and he said, this is what we can do and this is what we can pay, that's what it's gonna be. That's what it's gonna be. And I'm hoping, I'm hoping because defensively,

we need all hands on deck, we need all the help we can get. Frank Henderson had a hell of a year last year and the year before. I would love for him to be compensated as such. I hope at some point they come to an agreement and a number that makes sense for both. But as of right now, it ain't happening. Man, I'm looking at.

Y'all gonna need him, Ocho. Ocho. Yeah. Y'all gonna need him. Oh, absolutely. Listen, absolutely, absolutely. Listen, listen, our defense was 26th, 27th ranked or something like that in the NFL last year, 25th, and we had him. So hell, even with the improvements,

even with the improvements at the middle, excuse me, at the middle linebacker position and getting Shamar Stewart and other off-season acquisitions, we need everybody we can get to make sure we don't look like we did. Hey, he's saying. Hey, Joe, we don't need to be top five defense in NFL. We just need you to be somewhere in the middle of the pack and stop somebody.

We score 30 points. That man has 17 and a half sacks and y'all finish where y'all finish. So take away them 17 and a half sacks and y'all finish where y'all finish so take away them 17 and a half sacks What you think y'all go finish? I'll just I'll just see because the old joke. It's not like it's not like y'all got like Y'all just like loaded with talent like equals, right? So a one piece goes out. You know, okay cool. We good You know, they lost two key pieces, but they still got, you know, still got Carter.

They still got Davis. They still got Braun. They got the corners and things like that. They got, they good. They locked. Right. Bro, y'all really got one player that people worry about on defense.

It's him. It's him. Hey, okay, they even spent all that. And with no pressure. They even spent all that money on offense. Yeah, I mean, listen, that's our identity. That's our identity, Joe. But you can't let your big fella,

you can't let your D in go, Ocho, come on now. Hey, Joe, this is business, Joe. This is business, Joe. You know, all the money, I think we 29 million under the cap. Don't quote me, I might be wrong. I think we're somewhere around there. So I think they can get to a number that's decent, that makes the owners feel comfortable,

that can make Trey feel comfortable. But hell, if it was, shit, I would assume it would have been done by now. Hell, we have six months. This season ended last year. They might as well go on trading man, go on trading Mocho. That's what they should do, but they probably like,

like what you say, that's a prideful, that's a prideful man. He don't play, he don't play on, boy he do not play. They don't let you back him into a corner, they don't let you bully him. Hey Joe, I was in my prime Joe, you know, and I was I was upset, you know, that just some of the media blaming me for us losing. I'm like, well, here, how y'all blaming me for us losing?

I'm doing everything I'm supposed to do. I'm like, you know, you know, and I was like, man, well, let me get up out of here then. Okay. Man, please. Boy, who's the former owner of the Redskins? I'm sorry. Are the commanders? Dan Snyder.

And Dan Snyder offered Mike Brown two first round picks, Joe. I mean my prime, Joe. I'm talking about prime, mouth full of gold. That boy. Yeah, that boy. Man, Mike Brown said, uh-uh, uh-uh, he ain't going to wear you,

whether you mad or not. But I came back that following season, boy had about 560 yards that season, Joe. It wasn't nothing wrong with me. I went from a 13, 1400 yard season to all of a sudden 500 out the blue, and I'm healthy. What, they went throwing in your way, bro. Oh, they get to that.

They picked it up for you. Joe that that that let me know. Okay. I see. I see. I see who run the show. You know what? Let me play the game the right way.

That's all. That's all I need to see. Joe. I went from a 1300 yard season the next season after being disgruntled all of a sudden I only got 500 yards. Man they ain't heard a peep from me after that. Well yeah y'all better y'all better y'all better get your head. Hey you see the Steelers. What a Steelers got a solid defense.

Solid, they more than solid, on paper. Wait a minute, on paper. Outside TJ White, who's proven, but you got other pieces that come from other places that play- They got Highsmith, they got Hebrick, I think that's his name. They got Cam Hayward, still look ready, man.

Highsmith is 56, right? 56 is Highsmith, right? Yeah, yeah. And he was ballin' last year. I think he kinda dinged, Cam Heyward still look ready. Yeah Yeah, yeah, he was he was born I think he kind of ding but the other guy he might be 51 But they got some pieces over there and they said what they do they gave TJ what the money yeah I knew they're gonna do that. They got it I knew they're gonna do that. They got it and And you mean to tell me y'all not even close to the Steelers level of talent and y'all best player on defense Y'all don't want to pay him You should have told him you do something you should you should not have told him that you can we gonna take care of it Because the man went out there led the league inside. Oh Joe. He's all pro. If so, he has an expectation

He like okay y'all go down. say y'all gonna take care of me. Okay, here it is. I'm done. Take care of me. Well, this is what we could do. Nah, nah, that ain't taking care of me. That's taking care of y'all. Make the money right.

Hey. I'm being an imposter. But you're right. The Bengals just started paying people like three years ago when they played Joe Burrow for the longest time. They got Boomer Sasson out of there cause they didn't want to pay Boomer.

They don't pay nobody on Joe, you know that. You know that, first hand. You been there one decade. They don't play no one. They didn't open up the wallet in there. They didn't start opening that wallet up there. Joe Burrow and Chase. They played a couple of them off his line.

They, O'Brown, O'B, they paid him. But then like I said, they just started that recently. Bingham's been cheap. Everybody know the Bingham's cheap. Show me the money. Mike Tomlin says he has a bromance with Aaron Rodgers. Tomlin said, it was kind of a bromance for me. I was just excited to get to know the guy

on a personal level. Man, we had some cool, interesting conversations about football, about life, about where he is in his career and what he was potentially looking for. Ocho, how long do you think this romance lasts? Oh, if the Steelers don't start, if they don't start winning. Listen, remember, remember, listen,

winning wins or losses, depending, regardless of how it goes. Remember how Aaron Rodder treated Robert Sala? Yeah. Remember the interaction on the sideline, the pushing and the shoving off of- Yeah, yeah, yeah. One type of recent for the head coach. Now what won't

happen whether they're winning or losing. Now Mike Tomlin ain't playing that. Oh, no. Oh, that bad. That ain't that ain't gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. So whether they're winning or losing, I think the relationship between those two because there's a certain amount of respect that he has from Mike Tomlin and what he's been able to accomplish in Pittsburgh, I think everything would be just fine. Everything would be just fine. All he has to do is listen, if Russell Woods can do what he did last year and Justin Fields can do what he did last year,

Aaron Rodgers being at the helm, should be able to do just that. Do what they ask of you. Don't turn the ball over and let the defense win the game for you. It's simple. Yeah. Plus he doesn't come in with what he went into the jets with they got on private jets. They court a there's like look, this is what we got. Take it leave it. You know, Mike Tomlin runs the show. Yeah.

The moment you go get around the Cobb, the moment you go get Alan Lazard, you've ceded all control to Aaron Rodgers because now you've given up control. You like, okay, I want this, I want that, I want this, I want that. The moment a kid starts screaming and you give him what he wants,

Ocho, you see the control. Right, right. But with that- That's not gonna happen in Pittsburgh. No, no, absolutely, but you have to understand that Jets start with that control and we allowing you to take the keys to the team and put the pieces around you

They felt that's what you needed to succeed. It just didn't happen the way that they saw Well, you got to do but what? I think it would have had he bought all the way in When tamper turned it over to uh, tom what did tom do he bought all the way in when denver turned it turned it over to paten He bought all the way in That's not what erin did was halfway in When Denver turned it over to Payton, he bought all the way in. That's not what Aaron did. Was halfway in? Halfway in.

He locked in, not him. And, yeah. Hey, you got some veterans over there. You got some veterans over there? That'll get in the Zil, man. He didn't even, he had that veteran presence over there in New York, that'd be like, hey, come on.

They would just happen to have it because you think about the quarterback play that they had before. Yeah. And they was like, well, that's Aaron Rogers. He's going to be better than that. And so they just see that, you know, everything to it. Hey, look, that's a very tough division. That is not an easy division because you got an exemplary

quarterback play at two other spots in Cincinnati and Baltimore. And you're going to have to be on your best behavior to beat those two teams. And they just happen to be in your division. Now you got some other tough games on the schedule also, but like you said, Ocho, uh, we about to find out can he summons up the old Aaron Rodgers or he just old Aaron Rodgers yeah just just just a little bit just a little bit give me give me flashes give me give me three flashes a quarter who flashes the court hey hey Ocho y'all allow me the right to

be wrong on this but I think it for the Jets, he had to be pretty spectacular for them to win, right? I think with the Steelers, because their defense is pretty good, that I don't think it'd be a whole lot of pressure on him. Plus he got a lot of he got some help offensively to where he'll be a lot better, I think, for the Steelers than he was for the Jets. I think the offensive line is better, but the problem that they ran in, and this is what I said, and I remember having this conversation, I said,

Ocho, you're saying he just needs to be Aaron Rodgers. I said, now what happens if that defense isn't what it was for those other quarterbacks? Right. Zach Wilson. So let's just say for the sake of argument, that defense slips't what it was for those other quarterbacks. Right. Zach Wilson. So let's just say for the sake of argument, that defense slips a little bit. Yeah.

And you see, as guys start to get older, Joe, and I don't know how it is in basketball, you can speak to this, but as guys get older at the quarterback position, they need more help. Whereas guys, Aaron Rodgers five years ago, six years ago. Woo. No problem.

Are you gonna put a sister of the north out there with him? He would have succeeded. He could do it. I seen it. But as you get older, you need more help. Allah Tom goes to Tampa, Allah Peyton goes to Denver. Look at the receiving help that he had. Look at the running backs, look at the offensive line.

All those things go into play. I do believe he has a better offensive line than what he has, okay? He got DK, they lost Pickens. They got Calvin Austin III. So they got some players, so we'll see. We'll see Warren, the running back. We'll see a Warren the running back. We'll see how that how that turns out. But I don't think he needs to be 40 touchdown

Aaron. I don't. I don't think they have a 40 touchdown offense. Could be you could be right. I see that. I see that. Be right. I could be right. I say that. I say that. You could be right. I could be right. I say that respectfully. The Bengals have a 40 touchdown offense. For sure. Absolutely. Yes. Yes. Yes. You know why? Because the defense aren't very good. So they won't be played. They're gonna be in some shootouts.

They're gonna be a shootout. They don't talk. Come on. That's the second time you take a shot of the team now. But they're gonna be. Oh, shootout. They don't talk. That's the second time you can shout out the team now but they're going to be oh y'all defense are not very good. You

see y'all lost games 4138. Y'all lost 3835. Y'all lost 3431. Right. You're right. You're right. Y'all going to be in games like that. Listen, this is a new year though. This is it's a new year. You see, we don't we don't know what's gonna happen. Matter of fact, we got football tomorrow too. I forgot about that. Yeah. Oh, this is the last, this is the last weekend

you won't have football until middle of February. February. So moving forward, you got preseason and then, you know, you got college and then you got NFL college, NFL college, NFL. And then when the college go and then you have bowl season, you have playoffs. So yeah, hey

Is here now? Is here now? Devontae Adams clears the air with Jimmy G During dark time as Raiders teammate. It's amazing. I love Jimmy. He said it was never personal thing I was hoping we didn't have to have these conversations, but I'm surprised This is the first time it's been brought up, but it's been amazing. We got to catch up on and get on the right page.

Obviously, that was just a dark moment in all of our lives. I think all of us were pretty miserable over there. We kind of caught up and laughed about it, and we've been making plays since we got out here. So it's been fun. Either one of you guys ever had an awkward fallout with a former teammate and had to squash the beef once you guys became teammates again?

No, I ain't never had no beef with none of my teammates or none of that, nah. You had that, Ocho? Nah, I had it either. Nah, nah, I was a fun guy, Joe. I be the same way I am on the store as the same way I, Joe. I mean the same way I am on the show, and just saying I was in the locker room, same way I was on the field.

Like there was, I was just fun, man. I was a fun dude, Joe. I ain't had no problem with nobody. I think I got in one scuffle one time, but with my safety at training camp, Madhu Williams. Yeah. And that was it.

That one time. I didn't even, I mean, I left Denver, went to Baltimore, left Baltimore, went back to Denver. Now, I've never had an awkward fallout. We had the squash beef. I mean. Well, Joe, I had that one fight, Joe. When we played the Ravens, I think I told you, Joe, I don't think I told you that story. We played the Ravens. We was at B&T, what's

the name of the stadium? M&T. Yeah, I was at M&T. You know, towards the end of the game, you know, Joe, I went to catch a slant. Carson threw me a slant, right? You know, it was a little high and I jumped for it anyway, right Joe? Stay with me now. And so I seen Ray at the corner of my eye,

I'm a peripheral vision. I was like, I don't even count for him to try to go get it anyway. And I was like, oh, the ball's whacked. Mistake. I started to come down and Ray hit me on the side of my ear hole. And I'm like, well, wait a minute, that was Ray that just hit me.

We just prayed before the game. So I know the Lord ain't tell you to hit me like that. So Joe, I jumped up, right? And I like went after him. I was feeling it. I was going to put your hands on you, right? But then boom, I think Ed re-grabbed me. So when Ed grabbed me, I was like, nah, you're for the putty hands on you, right? But then boom, I think Ed Reed grabbed me. So when Ed grabbed me, I was like, nah,

you gonna have to answer for that. That's what I said in my mind. So after the game, right Joe? Boom, I went to the Ravens locker room. I went looking for Ray. So I walked in the locker room and security like, hey. He didn't know where he was. Yeah, you can't be here.

So I waited in the parking lot, but then the team bus hit the horn for me to go. And that kind of like saved me from what we were doing. But you just wanted to get something straight. You wasn't really gonna put no powers on. Yeah, yeah, cause like, like, like Joe, before every game, I swore for God for a decade straight. Joe, for a decade straight, we didn't miss one game.

Me and Ray, he gave me a scripture. We sat on the phone. We read the scripture before we didn't miss one game. Me and Ray, he gave me a scripture, we sat on the phone, we read the scripture before we went to play the game. Whether we were playing each other or not, consistently for a decade straight. How the hell we just prayed before the game and you hit me like that? Yeah, he prayed he was gonna knock your ass out.

Man, Joe, I was, hey, boy, Joe, listen, boy, it would have took all 12 disciples to get me off of Ray, boy, if I were to quote him after that game. I'm going to kick your **** You don't think logically. So if Ed Reed hadn't held me, I would have turned that 52 upside down, that bitch with the red 25. You did the right thing. Grab your helmet, cause he knocked your helmet smooth off. You thought your head was in it. My helmet was flying, Joe.

Hey, you went and picked your helmet up like, dang. It all good. Boy, you something else. Hey, hey, hey, he a Florida boy too, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boy, right from Lakeland, right up the street, man. Right, right, right up the street. Yeah,

y'all know, but that that you know better. He called me, he called me the same way. He caught me under my chin. On the deep end, cause yeah. He got you too. Got me too. Hey, hey, hey. I caught it. I was trying to break it in.

Hit me right up under my chin. I say, doop. Ain't very touching anything compared to him. He wasn't playing. Oh, for sure. Yeah, hey, that boy wasn't that nice right there, boy. Oh, Joe, look at this. at this Ocho look what I got. That's Pickens?

That's Lil Pickens yeah. No Pick man. I knew it was Pick soon as I saw that damn face man. I said they got to be Pick Hellman. Carl but nice boy. Hey man, hey Pick like, hey nobody want no Bingo's Hellman back in the day. Oh Joe bad pick a pig. Just say, here man, take this.

I already told you, I already took. I don't want to take, I don't want to take it. I thought the bingo shoes have some decent helmets. Man, ain't nobody want the bingo was terrible. Yeah. Now here with Jeff Blake. Ain't nobody throwing deep ball. Let's just play. Yeah. Hey, he had a pretty ball boy.

Jeff had that thing. Take it. Hey, just like a pretty ball boy. Jeff had a pretty ball boy. Just like Aaron Rodgers throw the hell, man. That's how Blake, that's how Jeff would throw the deep ball. That thing just like, it just come down and pick just run right up under it. Hey him and Darnay boy, they used to, they were nice boy. Yeah Ocho, I got me own big,

do y'all still got these helpers like this Ocho? They still like this, right? It's still the same, it's still the same. the the the the the the the the the how they handle their top players contract. We don't drag deals out, we do deals when there's an opportunity to do a deal. Certainly no one knows what's going on internally with a particular negotiation. Sometimes players and agents

aren't ready to pull the trigger until they see other cards played. What are we going to do? Go out there and do something that's not responsible in terms of just name getting done one month earlier. Do it, pay another guy five million of your own cap space, especially when you're dealing in our particular case. Internally with guys who are homegrown here, we feel like they want to be here. I felt like Dak wanted to be here. I always felt like CD wanted to be here.

What you think is, Joe, but here's the thing. You wait until the very last year. You could have gotten Mike a deal done after year three. You could have gotten that deal done. You could have got a CD. But when you wait until the very last minute, yes, yes, they're gonna put a tax on you. It's just that simple.

Because you put them in a situation, they had to avoid injury for two extra years. So now I gotta make you pay. I gotta make you pay, Ocho. You gotta pay extra. You gotta pay the toll. Yeah. What was that, the troll, how you was under the bridge,

and you wanna come across, you wanna cross the bridge, you gotta pay the toll. Hey, look. You gotta pay the was that the troll how he was under the bridge and you want to come cross you across the bridge You got to pray to talk you got to pray to troll. Hey look, you got to pay the toll to the jury knows that You know, that's why I say they gonna pay Michael, but they gonna pay him It's gonna be right for the season. Yeah, I don't know how this they're gonna pay him more than what they had Cuz you're first of all You let you let you let a TJ why you let the other guys reset the market. Yeah. It was at 34.

Just last year, the highest paid defensive player made $34 million. The highest paid defensive player now makes $41 million. That's $70 million. Now plus, he got a hundred and he got a what a hundred and eight guaranteed I Think what you got got like 123 guaranteed So what's Michael looking at Michael looking to go 42 with somewhere between 120 and 130 135 guaranteed He gonna reset it

Yes Thank you did with that think about it's twice he did this with Dak. Because you didn't do Dak and you let Carson Wentz and Jerry Goff and then you think he's gonna give you the same type of deal. No, but they signed him two years early. They signed him two years early with two franchise tags. Dak said, no, I'm good, cause you gotta break me off all the way off, 40.

And wasn't playing no game. And yes, you waited again, and guess what he said, Ocho? Now I need 60. All of it, since you wanna- I need 60. Yeah, I need 60. But yeah, we gonna get Micah paid, man.

We got some special things we doing this year in Dallas, baby. Don't y'all worry about it. You ain't got no choice. You right. You right. And you do realize, your left guard Tyler Smith gonna wanna get paid too.

Trace Smith just got 24, 25 million. Tyler Smith say, yeah, I'm gonna need that. I done been to the pro bowl twice, I need that. If I go to the third time, I'm gonna need that, cause get at you, get at me. I'll let you boy. I done been to the pro bowl twice. I need that. If I go to the third time, I'm gonna need that, cause get at you, get at me. I'll let you boy. Oh, I forgot. What y'all gonna do with George Pickens?

Oh no, this pick resume, this pick resume, yeah. It don't gotta be there. It don't gotta be there. That's my point. It has to be there. So, I mean, you trade, I mean, you probably, you gave him draft capital again and you probably

want to keep it but he he he going to be looking to get he going to be looking uh you know you say he won't be won't be money somewhere. You know 3033 34. So, you're going to have 234. You're going to have a 60 million dollar quarterback 23434 million receivers, Ocho?

If they win. And a $42 million, and a 42 million. You got what you got. The Bengals found a way to do it. They gonna have to do it too. But here's the thing. The Bengals need to make a playoff. I don't think George Pick is,

I don't think George Pick is gonna go for what T Higgins is gonna let them go. That ain't happening, Ocho. That ain't happen. And I know my can't do it no deal like that. Because they know Jay got it. I'm Jay Kofor and this is back, a limited series show on wire to hunt, part of Meat Eaters podcast network.

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the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Joe, check out this graphic. The iPhone with each NFC team last made the NFC championship game. Look at what the Cowboys got. The Brick. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. They got the Brick. That's Motorola. What's that? The brick? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. Chill. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

They got the brick, that Motorola? Woo! Hey man, listen, we trying to, Eagles, the Eagles, what, what, what, what, what we on now? 15, 16 for the Eagles? iPhone 15, iPhone 16? Yeah.

I think, what iPhone is it? It's 16? 16, yeah. So they up to date. Look at that thing. I see, man, I see. We gonna get it right though, don't trip. No, y'all not.

Y'all that big old brick. Y'all hit, you hit somebody in the head with that thing, that was a joke. We gonna get it together. Ocho, you ain't have one of them, Ocho. I had one of them, Ocho. I had the big one and the little one. They came out with a smaller version.

What's that? I can't see it. That's a phone. You need to go to the ophthalmologist. Look at it with the good eye. Hey, that's Nokia, huh? That's a Motorola. Oh, I had the Motorola block, the 8000.

Yeah. Big boy with the antenna. You remember when the Motorola used to sit in the car, huh? Yeah. Right in the middle, in the middle car seat. Yeah, I remember, they used to have a pouch. I'm old enough to remember they had the pouch. You could carry the pouch with you.

Yeah. Yo, you had a beeper, Joe? Nah, I ain't had no beeper, man. I ain't had none of that, Ocho. When I first got in the game- Wait, Joe, how old are you? I'm 44. When I first got in the game- Hey, wait, Joe! What? Go home, you! I'm 44.

When I first got in the game, man, I had a two-way pager. When I came out of college, I had a two-way. You ain't had no sidekick? I bet you didn't have no sidekick, though. Yeah, a sidekick. Remember the sidekick? I had a sidekick that joint you pop over- You had the sidekick car, Joe!

Huh? You had the sidekick vehicle. You remember the sidekick? Listen, listen. You had the sidekick vehicle. You remember sidekick? Listen, listen. I ain't have all the fancy stuff. I ain't have all that fancy stuff. No. No. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad.

Man, cell phone bill used to be $1,500 a month, Ocho. Ooh, whee. What? Yeah. Man, a minute was like $4, $5 a minute. Oh, talk frequently. I ain't had to be able to do that. Yeah, man. A minute was like $4, $5 a minute. Oh, okay. I ain't I ain't I had nobody talk to you

like that. You use the weekends man. The weekends are free. You use the weekends. That that that plan came along. That plan came along later, Joe. It didn't first start out like that now. Hey, and then you go out of the area. You go out of the area.

That thing start roaming. Hey, what's the plan with your minutes roll over? Oh, roll over play, you don't use them all to get the roll over yet. Yeah, you don't use them in the minutes roll over to the next month? Yes. It did, that's when they came out after seven and weekends for free.

So you had to wait until seven, hey, call me after seven. Don't you call me, cause I ain't answer. Right. Cause I ain't answer because I ain't answering. Right. Right. Because I ain't answering, I ain't answering. Right. There's rookie Luther Burton III was kicked off the field and chewed out by Ben Johnson after issues at the line of scrimmage during team drills. Burton missed several weeks of practice

with a hamstring injury and Johnson said, it has hindered his progress learning the system. It shows up already. I mean, we were in walkthrough yesterday afternoon then Mr. Lyman, we have to re-huddle. We have to start it all over again. He's a little bit behind right now. Burton III responded very well to the accountability

that Johnson gave him. Early in your career, did you ever have to accept accountability coming up short in practice or in the game? Yeah. Hell yeah. Man, you don't move me. I'm a wide receiver, Ocho.

They'll move me to tight end. They tell me to play, Ocho. I go in motion. I stop. Man, what's the play again? What I got? Hey, hey, y'all laughing. I'm dancing here.

Ask him, I tell you. Hey, I go in motion, go to the tackle, turn around and come back. Man, what I got? I forgot, what I got? Bad day, Reeve Beeson. God dang it, Shannon. I don't know what you want me to tell you, dad.

I forgot to play. I remember them days, man. They sent me in, Dad. I forgot to play. I remember them days, man. They sent me in the game. I forgot to play coming into the game. Cause we used to run play like every play we bring somebody to the game. And they had a hand on my shoulder. Give me the play.

I go in there. How are you all ready? I'm in the game on your. Yeah. John, John look at me. T look at me like, T what's the play? Hey, hey it'll have a quick to It happened quick. Hey, oh boogie. Joe out looking at the game to I'm like man. I'm in the game

D D what's the play? Oh, I'm sorry. Hey, hey, hey, hold on. In basketball, Arkan Ocho, and they're doing like a timeout, they might, coach might draw up three plays. Okay, we're gonna run this play, then come back down next trip, we're gonna run this play, then next trip down court, we're gonna,

so he got three plays in and drawn up. Now you may go out there on defense and you mess around and get a couple trips to where y'all may got steals or things of that sort. Man, you forget everything. That man done drew up over there. That's how it go. You be so locked in.

Damn, what was the second play? You go to ask your teammate, they don't even know. See, that's how we do no huddle, Ocho. We call two plays in the huddle. First one on one, second on set hut. Hey, everything right formation. Go, go. What we got?

Right. Yeah, nah. Man, I was so embarrassed. Man, I didn't even look at the sideline. Coach Reeves would get so mad. Coach would turn red and he had this big old, big old vein. I mean, it'd be bulging out of his neck. Because back then, coaches wore suits on the sideline, don't you? Coach Reeves wore a suit.

You know, Coach, you go back and look at Coach, you know, Coach, you know, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Coach, Big old vein. I mean it'd be bulging out of his neck because back then coaches wore suits on the sidelines Oh Joe coach Reese wore suit. Yeah, you know coach you go back and look at coach dick He have a sweater vest and things like that. So coach coach Reese was dressed to the nine Man coach Reese was so bad over there. Hey put it Getting that told with that play and I got that and ran in there to forgot all about that play That's the worst feeling though. Oh Joe. Hey.

You talk and everybody looking at me like damn how you forget to play. How you forget to play from the sideline to the huddle. Hey, hey. I guess jogging jog my memory. That's a look that's like one for getting to play and probably being late to like practice. That's like the, forgetting to play and probably being late to like practice. That's like the worst feeling, man. Late to practice, late to meetings. Yeah, and they already in there going through the meeting.

You gotta. Oh man, that's the worst. Oh, that's the worst. Man, I'm late for the meeting. I'm playing a game. Then a officer play of the game. Shannon Sharp. And you late for the meeting. I said, man, why is somebody on behalf of Mr. Sharp? I like to set this award on his behalf, like they do at the Oscars,

like they do at the Grammys or something. Man, accept the award. Man, hey, we got a snow, hey, we got a storm. We had played Carolina that Sunday. We beat the Braves off Carolina. And I cooked them, Ocho, cooked them. $7.74. Cooked them.

Woo! Man, that's no just another would not cooperate. Yeah, couldn't get couldn't get to practice, huh? No, it was team me because we give out we give out the offense defensive pleasure team player of the

game that Wednesday in in in in the uh Mike's morning meeting. Right. So, defensive player of the game, this many tackles, a pick, you know, sack, blah, blah, blah. You know, offensive player of the game, you know, we a John, we a TD. Most of the time it was TD. To be quite honest. But yeah, that's a bad feeling. Because as a matter of fact, I walk in and they get ready to break the team meeting. That's the worst feeling, bro. That is the worst feeling.

Because here's the thing, it's one thing to be late, it's something, the miss it, miss it, huh? You was that late? Yeah, man, that meeting don't take that long. You might just say, hey, great game, you know, blah, blah, blah. Congratulations. That's the way you know, play start to finish. Play fast. I love everybody with engaged offensive player to get a defensive player to game special teams player to game. So the meeting ain't gonna go for like six or seven minutes.

Right. Being late is one thing. Missing the meeting is some intelligent. Missing the meeting might cost, you know, $500. I mean, late for the meeting might cost $500. I mean, late for the meeting might cost 500. Missing the meeting gonna cost 2,000. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, yeah, I understand. And it's, like I said, I need to be there.

See, it's hard to pick up stuff where you injured and they going over to the place, oh, I need to walk through, I need to be there. Right. And you know, you hurt, you on the sideline, it ain't the same. It ain't the same. And hey, and in this situation,

they are installing new every day. So if you got, if you not up to date on this today, guess what, that's gone. We ain't talking about this no more. We don't know we're on page two And guess what we don't page three and we all pay for And then they come back and they go then they start implementing stuff from page one, two, three, four five Oh Lord have mercy. Y'all joke bad. I know what you mean.

I swear I do. Boy, you miss one of the meetings or you mess around and be late? Boy, you gonna feel lost. Yeah. Yeah, man. I had to get caught up. I said, man, man, I just went home one off season

and I just stood up. I said, I got to know this stuff from the back. I said, ain't no way. I said, man, they gonna mess around and cut said, I got to know this stuff, front with them backwards. I said, ain't no way, I said, man, they gonna mess around and cut me if I don't know this stuff. Michael Porter Jr. spoke about the next practice facility saying, I'm just glad y'all got two chords, man. Wow.

Joe, who you think got some of the worst practice facilities you've ever played in? Worst practice facility? Man, I played in some places. I'm going to be honest with y'all. It's probably here for the Hawks. We practiced in the arena that we played in. They got new facilities now over here by Emory. Yeah, but they ain't had that on when I was there. We practiced in the arena that we played in. They got new facilities now over here by Emory. Yeah, but they ain't had that on when I was there. We practiced in the arena that we played in. They got a little practice court down there.

That's what we did. Training camp, that's what we had all our practice every day. Damn! It was bad, man. It was bad. They got state of the art something out of here now. It was bad, Ocho. They do.

It was bad, Ocho. It was that bad? Man, we got a little court inside the arena, and that's what we practice every day We had training camp every day. It's just It was tough man, yeah, yeah, that's how the Ravens the Ravens are state of art now But when I was there that was that was bad, but hey, but these practice They got out because it used to be the old Baltimore Coast facility. Oh, yeah. Oh

Yeah over here by our over here on Druid Hills. Yeah, yeah. But what Michael Porter Jr. talking about, what they got in Brooklyn? See, I was there. I was there when they built that facility. Oh man, it ain't too many places, especially in the NBA, they can compete with that.

Like that's state of the art. Really? Yeah, it's in Brooklyn, it's a high rise. So you can kind of, you can see over the whole Brooklyn, over New York, like it's. Oh, you see all the hubs. You see over everything. You see the sky.

You see the city. Huh? It's beautiful, bro. It's beautiful. It's two, two huge courts in there. Yeah. Hot tubs, cold tubs. Like they they're looking out for them boys over there.

They they see where Michael Porter Jr. coming from is Denver. They only got one court. It's probably a little bigger than what they got over here in Atlanta, what we had when I was practicing. So that's probably why he's saying that. But a lot of y'all surprised cause stay at Cronkite, you got some bread now. Yeah, but a lot of these teams

are upgrading their practice facilities, man. This boy, the Hawks got a special one over here though, if you ain't never been to it over here, they got got a special one over here though. If you ain't never been to it over there, they got a special practice facility over here now. Next to Emory Hospital. Yeah. Yeah.

I get jealous every time I go over there. I used to go over there. I used to go over there. Like I said, I drew it here. I used to go over there and get my knee draped. Yeah. It's something nice. It's something, it's a sight to see.

Hey, young boy about to get a big penny over there too, ain't he? Ooh, Trey, by the board of juniors. Nah, the point guard. Trey, Trey Young, Trey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, sir. They better take care of man with us

and what they gonna do with our Trey over here. Exactly. You nice. Yeah, make guys around him better. I'll take care of man with us. What they gonna do with our tray over here? Exactly. Nice. Yeah, make guys around him better. It ain't too many guys like that in the league no more. Nope. Yeah, and you know, they done got rid of John Carly.

They done got rid of, ain't nobody here but him now. Basically, they got Dyson Daniels, they let Capella go. De'Jonte, they traded De', but they got they got some talent though They got some talent, but I think we're trailing They got some talent man. They got some talent to be to be special Especially in this Eastern Conference this year, so I'm looking forward to that for sure But yeah, they got a patron They got a patron?

Draft Kings asked AI to name the US best sports franchises of all time by sport. No surprise, Yankees are one, Cardinals are two, Red Sox are three, Dodgers are four, Giants are five. Football, Patriots are one one Steelers are two Niners are three Cowboys are four Packers are five in the NBA Celtics Lakers Bulls Warriors Spurs hockey Canadians Canadians Canadians the maple leaves the red wings the Bruins the oilers any objection those yo you see anything that you object to not Not not really no, hold on what it was a patriot Yeah, the Knicks ain't the Knicks ain't

It appears to me, you know what it appears to me they went by they went by championships, right? Yeah That would look like to be. You saying they win by championships in every sport. That's what you saying? Yep. Yeah. Ooh. Yeah, AI. AI always doing something. AI done got crazy, yeah. AI. AI always doing something.

AI done got crazy, man. Yeah, we need to get on that thing. I need, we need to get on that. Johnathan Kaminga reportedly prefers to play for the Sacramento Kings instead of the Golden State Warriors. Kaminga believes the Warriors have stunted and strung his career long for four seasons. Joe, do you agree?

It doesn't seem like he's gonna accept their, I think, what is it, their offer? Yeah, talking about the Warriors' offer? Cause I think- No, I don't think he gonna accept the Warriors' offer. I think he's actually ready to move on. But yeah, I can see him going to Sacramento, but they would have to do like a sign and trade though,

right? Correct, correct. Yeah, I think if the Warriors are looking to improve, I'm not sure what Sacramento has that they would want, but they gonna have to trade. They gonna have to trade Kamingo, man. They can't go into the season. Yeah, he done, he fed up, he done.

Yeah, you don't. I'm not so sure that he trusts them anymore. Right, he done. He fed up. He done. Yeah. You don't, you don't, you don't. Cause you don't, I'm not so sure that he trusts them anymore. Right. That's what we got. There you go. There you go.

So do them. Why is he limiting himself to one team? Huh? Why is he limiting himself to just one team? Why Sacramento? Why not anywhere else? I don't think there's really been a style of play. Yeah.

But has it, you know, grounds well, cause you know, go ahead, go ahead Joe. I don't think it's really been a huge market for him, Ojo, for whatever reason. It's, it's, you know, it's been a little weird for him, but he's definitely a talent who can help a team, obviously, you know, win a title, compete for one. The Sacramento thing, I don't know where they came from.

Maybe they got the money to spend, but I don't think going back to Golden State is in his near future. I don't think that's an option for him. I don't think it's beneficial for him before the war is in with. Because, you know, the things that Curr said, you know. Yeah, I think you've over that situation.

Damn. And I think it kind of happened when they got Jimmy. Go ahead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That kind of phased him out. Yeah. Oh Joe, Steelers cornerback Jalen Ramsey is wearing a $5 bill on his shoulder pads at training camp. Okay. Every time I go out there, I'm trying to make some, trying to make some money. Come on now. Oh, he got it on the flap. He got a flap.

Yeah. He tried to say he tried to make money. He got it on the pad. I'm trying to get this bread. Yeah. I like that. I like that. Whatever you, whatever you got to do, whatever you got it on his pants. I'm trying to get this bread. Yeah, I like that. I like that. Whatever you got to do.

Whatever you got to do to motivate yourself. Whatever you got to do to stay locked in. Right. I like it. I like, I saw it. This the second time he got traded because he came from the Rams. He spent two years in Miami and now he's a,

well, damn. Cause he started in Jacksonville. Yeah. Did a couple of years in Jacksonville. Went to the Rams. Good at defense in Jacksonville. Yeah Good at defense in Jacksonville boy. Yeah Uh-huh, he just signed one this summer. Yeah, they just they just extended him all last year It wasn't nothing wrong with why I understand why they did Know he's saying he had when he trying to make money when he out there,

that's what he's trying to say, he trying to make money while he out there. Okay, all right. Yeah. All right. That's something you would have done, Ocho, when you were playing? Oh, nah, nah, I ain't putting out no $5,

I would have had a dollar on there, not no five. Yeah, yeah. You know, you saw where I tried to bribe that referee. You noticed I tried to bribe him with a dollar bill, right? Anything more than that? Oh, did they fine you for that? They didn't have me. Yeah, they fined me a little 20,000.

It's cool. It was worth it. Iconic moment. NFL can't take a joke. No. I said they should have slapped him. I told them they should have slapped them with a bottle. Oh yeah.

Hey. What'd I say? I said, I think I'm about to say a hundred thousand, two hundred thousand. Hey, hey, Unc went off, Unc went off on me when he was on, he was on Fox, huh? I was on CBS. Yeah, it was so funny, boy.

Hey, Joe, boy, Unc went off where, it was funny. When I saw it, I just laugh, I just laugh. I said, you know what? I'm gonna make sure I do something else the following week, too. Oh yeah, you kept some shenanigans. I mean, I like all the dances. I like all the others, the river dance,

and I like the sombrero. Yeah. He stayed on some bull jive, Joe. Ken Ward told the athletic there's a target on his back. I don't think I'm being welcomed in the league with open arms. I was the first pick. I'm blessed to be on that.

But at the end of the day, there's a target on my back. There's a target on everyone's back in the league, but I'm trying to prove myself to my teammate. Yep, you're absolutely right. They want to see why you the first pick. Just like we go out there to DB that was the first round pick or he won the Thorpe award and he won the Buccos or he whatever he won.

I need to see why you won that award bro. Absolutely. Oh yeah, they gonna try you now. Yeah, there's no target. For one, obviously when you think about first round picks, he might be the first, this might be the first time in the history of the NFL, the first round pick slipped up under the radar.

Yeah. All attention is going to the fifth round pick. If you think about it, you have slipped right up under the radar as far as media coverage and all the hoopla that has always surrounded the first pick of the draft. Yeah, because of the Shadour effect. So I'm looking forward to what Kam Ward does this season.

You're gonna be fine, cause you got some pieces of where to work with too. You got some pieces to work with. Joe, that's the same thing with Bronnie James. We ain't talking about not one first round draft pick. All they talked about in the 55, Bronnie James. And you know, Kam Ward, that market he's in, that ain't a huge market, you know what I mean?

No. Yeah, so that's another reason why he's got that. Neither's Cleveland. Right, right. The name. Yeah. Sanders, James. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, they talk more about the 55th pick in the draft than they did the top two pick. And I think the Wizards got one and the Hawks got the other. Yeah, man. But nah, Cam, you ain't got no target on your back, bro. That's everybody that come in. Everybody that's a first round draft pick. You a first round draft pick.

People need to see, and you the number one overall draft pick. But they gonna check your ID. Every game you go in, they check your ID. Make sure you old enough to be in the club. Every time. They gonna make sure you old enough to be in the club. Yes sir.

49ers veteran left tackle, Trent showed frustration during practice because Nick Bosa kept beating him. Nick Bosa's beating him. Nick Bosa's beating Trent a lot of the time. Trent yesterday had a big reaction to a move of the ball period that was dominated by Nick Bosa. The offense was stopped by Nick Bosa. Trent came off the field exacerbated like he banged his thighs. Just felt, was frustrated. I think that's great for the team. I think that's going to push Trent to get better and be better through our training camp. And he's gonna be Trent Williams

by the time September rolls around. I hate to use iron sharp and irons, but it's definitely what's happening in camp. Williams is 37 and recently said that he wants to play until he's 40s. Boy, that's tough football. I know. Listen, if you're gonna be in camp consistently,

especially by somebody that's gonna frustrate you, well, who better than Nick Bosa to get yourself where you gotta get to? Because you're not gonna be facing Nick Bosa's- 16 Nick Bosa's? Nah, absolutely not. Excuse me, 17, now, oh, they got 17, gang. There ain't gonna be 17 Nick Bosa's.

Hey, but you got one over there, Jared Burr. He ain't no easy victory. Yeah, right He's a little undersized to we love the side a little quicker. Yeah, but hey, don't let that undersized fool you Yeah. Oh, yeah, you can go now go and I think The Cardinals got one of the Eagles defensive lineman Oh one number seven last year Right now not ready Cardinals got one of the Eagles defensive lineman. Oh, one of number seven last year, right? Nah, not Reddick.

Nah, not Reddick. He was a single digit though. He was a single digit if I'm not mistaken. You think so? Who was it? Ash, who was that D lineman that went to... I'm not sure. Uh who's the uh Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was a the MVP. Yeah. Yeah. So they got a they got some guys that can get off the rock on you now. Yeah. But you know Trent coming to a Trent coming out. I think Trent was Nick last year. He came.

He's coming off an injury. Yeah. He had a few injuries. He was out along with McCaffrey was out. They had a couple of guys. They had a couple of guys out. They lost the uh uh the wide receiver. They had a couple of guys out. They lost the wide receiver. Are you? Are you Brett? Yep. Had a couple of DBs, Hufanga. And look, it's not gonna be as easy to pour down a thing

cause they lost a lot of guys. Drake Greenlaw was late coming back. He's gone now. The DB, he ended up going to the Colts. Ooh. Not Ward. Yeah. Wait. Yup.

The Davias Ward left? Yup. Yup. He was nice. That's why Andy paid him. He was nice. All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

Zeus, the bully said, Ocho, you make no sense. Jerry golf rating higher than Jaylen Hertz. Santa's 67, wasn't he the best QB in college? Voted by his peers, crazy work. You heard what he just asked me, right? What'd he ask you? Rating is based on statistics.

Does he know that? So he just compared comparing Jared Goff, that and Jaylen Hertz. Like, what do we talk about? So you say you got a Jared Goff rating higher than Jaylen Hertz. And I have a question for you. What did Goff rating higher than Jalen Hurts. And I have a question for you. What did Goff throw for last year?

He threw for over 4,000 yards. Okay, what did Jalen Hurts throw for last year? Not over 4,000. Okay, there's the answer. You don't get ratings based off accolades. And we know we run the Super Bowl. The rating is based off the, oh my God. You know what, don't get ratings based off accolades. And we know we run the Super Bowl. The rating is based off the, oh my God. You know what, don't worry about it.

Do Logante, I've been playing Madden since it was on Sega Genesis with three buttons. Ocho, I challenge you to a duel. You not beat me. You not beat me, you not beat me at nothing. Madden. FIFA. Matter of fact, any gaming console. You not beat me at nothing from Atari, TurboGrafx-16, Nintendo. Nothing.

Nobody. Cam, he that guy. Everybody can't be that guy. Cam Newton say he that guy. Cam, Cam sorry as hell it mad man. Cam can't beat me doing nothing. Tennis, pickleball, golf, nothing. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy, hey fam, it was good to see you Sterling back on club Shayshow again. So happy for your family. Love y'all. Thank you doc. We really appreciate that. Yeah, we are very, very excited. Aaron Owen said, man, I'm excited to see memes,

a myrius memes this season. The Bengals got them one. I think he's a future All-Pro. Ocho, that's your team, that's your neck of the woods. Nice, he nice. I've been seeing a few clips of him playing very well. Also, I saw some clips a day where he wasn't in with the first unit.

I'm not sure what was going on with that. Maybe when he'll slot, he'll slot. He'll let the right side right side right tackle. Oh, you're tackle. Oh, okay. Okay. The big boy from yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. He's really nice. He real nice. Kevin Slybhoffer, who do y'all think will win rookie of the year on both sides?

Ooh, that's a good one. I'm going with the boy for the Jags. I'm going with Travis. Travis gonna win both of them. I think Abdul Carter gonna win. Abdul Carter, yeah, I think he'll probably win. Defensive player of the year. Yeah, he can get off that ball.

He can get off the rock, man. Man, this man got a toolbox. He can get off the rock. He can jump off the rock. I done seen about three different moves on film from him in practice. Yeah, he can get off the rock. He can jump off the rock. I didn't see about three different moves on film from him in practice. Yeah, he can get off the rock. He ripping, he spinning, hitting that Dwight Freeney.

I'm like, what the hell? He can get off the wall, Ocho. He can't, Joe. He can get off the rock. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for joining us. Appreciate you stopping by. We really, really appreciate you guys' support. Y'all know me.

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