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After nearly two decades, 19 years, Sonia Richards-Ross held the American record
into 400 meters at a time of 4870.
On the exact same day, 19 years ago, 19 years later,
Sidney McLaughlin took it down.
In the semifinals of the World Track and Field Championship,
McLaughlin clock 4829.
I think that's off Ashes the seventh fastest time in history,
not the 11th, but it's the fastest time by the American.
She took 0.41 seconds off the American record.
Sid said she was shocked at the performance saying
she wasn't expecting that.
That's a blistering time.
And she backed it down at the end.
Yeah.
Maybe I'm the only one of the lie that remember when Matarina Coke
set the world record of 4760.
There have only been two women that's ever cracked sub-48.
Cratchelova, who's an 800-meter runner, Ocho.
She ran 4799.
And then Coke ended up running 4760.
And if I'm not mistaken, I think she ran it from Lane 2.
Now, Nasser has been down there.
I think she's 48-11.
I think Paulino, who's actually in this race.
I think she's run like 48-17.
Marie-Josea Perrette, the French lady, she's back-to-back Olympic champ.
She also won the 200 in Atlanta.
She won the 4 and the 2.
I'm trying to think who else has been a low time.
They had this Russian Brazina.
She ran on the 88 team.
I think she was the one to help Flojo off,
if I'm not mistaken, no.
my memory serves me correct.
They've been a few,
Kathy Freeman.
They've been some great 400-meter runner.
Valerie Briscoe,
who, Kathy Freeman,
Perrette, Nassar, Polino,
Coke, Kratilova,
but Sidney McLaughlin.
And she said something very interesting.
She said, look, let somebody go up under 48
before we start talking about 4760.
Because I don't think,
I don't think understand what people understand
just how fast that is,
for a woman. That's booking.
You literally
she's going to, you're going to probably have to
go out in 22 seconds.
And hold it.
And come home in
25, 25, 5.
Let that sink in. Because normally they're going
out in 23 and try to come
home in 25.
She's going to have to go out in 22
and come home in 25 and a half.
She's got the people in the race
that can push her.
Nassar takes the pace out.
Paulino liked the track.
She played with fire there and I almost didn't make it.
But we'll see what her look.
Sydney's fitness is impeccable.
I believe it's going to take low 48, 48.
Or they might have to dip under 48 in order for it to win this gold medal.
Yeah.
When is that race?
Well, I think it's today already over there.
Well, today, well, it'll be tomorrow for us.
Because I think they're day ahead of us.
Yeah.
So it'll be Thursday for them.
So it'll be Friday for them. So, yeah.
I mean, Sid, man.
And she told Lewis she wasn't expecting that.
Because, you know, normally, Ocho, I'm doing just enough to win to qualify,
get the third lane.
And then now in the finals, I can drop the hammer.
but to run 4829 and take 4.1.41
off the American record
she was cruising on Joe.
She was cruising.
She was cruising.
And see, this is why Femke,
Bo, the Dutch runner can't beat in the hurdles.
She ain't got the footspeed.
She got the footspeed.
Right.
I mean, what you're going to do?
What were you going to do with someone
that can run?
a 40 can run 48 seconds.
I mean, it's going to be very impressive.
If she abandoned the hurdles and sets her sight in 28 and the over four,
and she get the world record in the, in the four and the hurdles?
Yeah.
Lord.
Because I didn't think, I didn't think in my lifetime I would see somebody get this
Coke's record.
This record's 40 years old.
I thought
oh so I mean nobody's come close
there's only been two women in the history
that's ever run sub 48
so what may and nobody's come
close like NASA
ran 4811 but she got
popped
right
so like
uh
per rec
when she ran when she ran
the French runner when she's
she's a double 400
there ain't been a whole lot of women to double up
I think
uh
Shawnee Millawebo.
I think she doubled up also.
But,
Ocho, that's booking.
That is booking.
Very.
And I think people really don't understand how fast it is.
And in reference you saying booking,
unless you watch track,
unless you know track and understand.
Or you ran track and realize how hard it is to run,
how hard it is to run a 50 second lap unless that's a suspect.
To run 49?
To run 48 for a woman?
Yeah.
And then we talk about 47.
If see it break this world record, that record might be like both.
You might have to go three, four, five, about three generations before you see somebody break that record.
Of somebody to see you break it again.
Because I think that's what's going to happen with both.
Because we haven't seen, we haven't seen anybody come close.
The closest anybody's ever come was Tyson Gay and Johann Blake at 968.
He was at 9.58.
Hey, well, boat was moving in that race.
I still believe, Ocho, had he not celebrated Beijing.
Right.
Hitting the chest.
He's low, he's low 95.
He might even go sub 950.
Ooh.
That, he broke the most.
Guys, he's light years in front of everybody.
I just, I just wish he, I just wish, but he was so happy.
I understand the moment.
I just wish he had ran through the tape.
I just wish he to ran through the tape
because that time would have never been broken.
Nobody's ever.
You'll have to be on a motorcycle
or have a hurricane behind you.
That's the one or two things.
You're on a motorcycle or you got a hurricane behind you.
That's it.
But Sid, she's in phenomenal shape.
And I think it's going to take a special time.
I think it's going to be 48-0 or sub.
I don't think.
I think the world record is safe.
Me personally, I think the world record is safe.
But I do think 48-0 or maybe a tick under 48 is doable.
I think it's doable.
And then I think over the next, you know, could she possibly double?
They're going to have to set the schedule like they did for Michael Johnson.
Valerie Briscoe Hooks, I forgot about Valerie Briscoe Hooks.
I forgot she was a great,
she was the first person to pull the double, the 4-2,
and she did it in 84.
So we've had Shaunders,
we've had some great runners in the 400.
Well, hold on, we got a great 400 runner right now in the family.
Oh, your daughter?
Yeah, Ray, yeah.
I hope you're watching.
You see what she doing.
She had, you know, Kentucky.
Oh, you're going to run for Kentucky.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, she up there, yeah, she's up there in Kentucky, yeah, yeah.
She better be watching, too.
Well, I think the head coach, when Sid went with Edric Flore,
I think he's at University of Texas now.
Oh, he left?
I think so.
I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think he's at the,
I think he's at UT now.
But Sid's booking.
Ash, it's the seventh fastest, not the 11th fastest, correct?
It's the 11th fastest?
No, I'm going to disagree.
Because 4760, 4799, 48, 14, 4817, 48, 25, Marie Jose Perrette, 4827, Olga Brazingia,
and Sidney McLaughlin, number 7 at 4829.
So I don't know where they get this from.
The 11th fastest time is by Kathy Freeman, 4863, at the Olympics.
in Atlanta.
So we're going to disagree.
We're going to disagree with USA Today
or USA tracking field.
Yeah.
Oh, I would disagree.
The level of fast,
hold on.
They says the 11th fastest time in history.
How?
Uh, uh, pull it up.
Put it up on.
Put it up Ash right quick.
Google it.
Because something ain't adding up.
I hope they threw men in there.
Oh, oh, oh, okay.
So what they're doing is she ran more than one time
under the time, on the Seid's time.
They're counting that.
Okay, okay.
So I was just, wow.
Yeah, but look, I'm going to leave that alone
because we know what the system that the East German
than the old Soviet had in place.
But let's leave that alone.
Hey, she ran the time, it got ratified.
Hey, we'll leave that alone, no, Joe.
Okay, okay.
The 11th fastest time, the seventh fastest person
because Coke ran two, she ran 4816 twice,
and she ran 4822.
So she got four of the top, four to top fans seven times in the country.
Gold medal in the 110 meter hurt.
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Gras, Grant Holloways, tried to, for Pete Ocho, has come to an end.
Cordill 10.
Who did I say, MJ?
Who did I tell?
I got Cordell Tinch.
Ran 1299.
Orlando Bennett, Jamaica, 1308.
Tyler Mason, Jamaica, 1312.
Richard, the Japanese runner, ran 1318.
Jacoby Thorpe ran 1331.
So it stays in the house.
It ain't the same person, but it's in the USA.
Hold on.
Flamingo, what place he came in?
He didn't get to the finals.
It's been a rough year.
I don't know if he's injured.
I don't know what he's dealing with,
but he didn't even make the finals.
Yeah, he was a three-time world champ,
three consecutive times,
and he'd make the finals.
Damn.
And the 1500 meters,
Isaac Nader, Portugal, 33410.
Jake Reitman, Great Britain, 33412.
Reynolds Cheriott, Kenya, 33425.
Timothy Cheriote, Kenya, 333.
3450, Neil Larios, the Netherlands, 33452, Robert Farkin, Germany, 335.
Josh Kerr was dealing, Inger Britson.
I don't know what happened to him, but he didn't make it.
Cole Hawker got disqualified for Jostling, and Josh Kerr, the reigning world champ.
He dealt with a footie.
He's dealing with a calf injury or something.
He finished 14th, and he didn't make it to the finals.
Man's long jump the girl
The goal went to
Forlani of Italy
839 meters beat Carl Lewis
as the record as the youngest
Long Jump World Champion history
To Taijay Gail
Jamaica 834
Chi Yoha
China 833
So damn
And the pole ball
Mando Duplantis
A new world record
Ocho 6 meters 30
He breaks the world
He wrecked the world record for the 14th time.
Hey, that's crazy because, you know,
you're not used to pull a boat in high school, huh?
Yeah.
Damn.
Manolo, Carolus.
What was the record again?
630 meters.
That's over 20 feet.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I did by 17 feet.
Boy, my junior year.
The former world record,
over Renee, Lava Lennie,
was in last place.
He was in eighth place at 5 meters, 75.
he was the former world record holder.
And Sam Kendricks of the U.S. 595 finished just, just, just off the podium.
Dang.
Why remember them days, boy?
I was scared of it forward.
And the shot put, Ryan Krauser, in his first meet,
he's been dealing with an elbow injury this entire season,
but he came in and when he needed to be great, he was 22 meters 34 for gold.
Munez, Mexico, 2197, Silver, Leonardo, Fabri, Italy, 2194.
Tom Walsh, the Netherlands, excuse me, New Zealand, excuse me, he was 2194.
But it's unbelievable what Kraz was able to do.
I mean, just think about Ocho, the first time he threw the shot in competition was at the World Championship.
Yeah.
And he uncorks won 22 meters.
and 34 on his fifth throw.
The greatest shot putter
into history.
He won three consecutive
world championships.
He's won three consecutive gold medals.
Obviously, he's getting good gear up.
Probably, I don't know what, how about you do.
They only got the USA's next year,
and then they got the World Championships in 27,
and then you got the Olympics in 28.
He's relocating his wife's a doctor.
He's moving to Nashville.
I think she got a job at Vanderbilt.
I think they're relocated from Texas.
or Oregon, yes.
Hey, they didn't, they didn't force you
when you were the high school to run track?
Yeah, I ran track.
So you ain't do the field events?
I did, I was a triple jumper, long jump through the discus.
Okay, I did shot putting, I did povo.
I ran four by one, four by four, a hundred, two hundred.
I ran the 1500.
Yeah, I won the, I'm a three-time state champ
in the triple jump.
I won the best performance trophy.
The far as this jump in the state meet, my senior year,
I won the high point trophy.
The most points accumulated in the state track meet in the state track meet
in my classification, my junior year.
Yeah, I ran track, Coach.
I was pretty good.
Got recruited by a lot of schools.
I still got my technique too.
Your legs too close together.
No, my furniture, white.
I can't kick my furniture, man.
But congratulations.
Congratulations to all the winners, Ryan Krauser gold medal.
Yes.
In Cordell Tinch.
Unbelievable.
We keep the gold here.
We go keep that gold medal here.
Hey, don't think I didn't see what y'all said, Jamaica.
But we're about to get that gold medal.
We're about to get gold and silver into 200.
Let them know.
Talk to him.
Y'all be talking.
Y'all make a scene like the Olympics just inserted 100 meters in 2008.
When you say burst on the team on the team on.
scene. Now, I'm not going to take anything from it.
He's the greatest sprinter to ever live.
Facts.
I'm not going to take anything from him.
But when it comes to sprinting, and it's
incredible, what the Jamaica
have been able to do when you
look at Ocho, a country that size?
You're talking about, you know,
four million people?
Yeah, if that.
And to have the greatest, I mean, and
some of the women, I mean, you look at
Shelley and Frasier, I mean, they've always
a Merlin Addi.
She never won gold, but, you know, she was always silver bronze
in the Olympics and the world championships.
So they've had, they've had good sprinters.
BCB, Veronica Camber Brown, Sharon Stewart.
They've had great women sprinters.
So don't get me wrong.
I don't want to say anything.
But y'all know, y'all know what the time we are right.
Y'all know what time are you.
So if you go back and look at the world championships,
I'll say last 15, 20,
20 years.
I mean, we're right there.
I know y'all think the Jamaicans, you know,
been running fans, but go back and look at it.
Go back and look it up.
I know y'all only go back to 2008
because you're saying, and I get all that.
But you know the Olympics, the modern Olympics is 130 years old.
They first instituted the Olympics,
the modern Olympics, in 1896.
I'm just, you know.
I'm just saying,
I just say it, if you look at it, if you look at it,
gold medal in the Olympics, gold medal in the world championships,
I, I, uh, I, uh, I feel very comfortable.
Yeah.
You y'all have, you y'all have the greatest male and female woman sprint of all
time?
Yes, you saying it's the greatest, is the greatest male sport.
He's the greatest.
sprinter woman sprinter is shell and bracer price absolutely i'm not arguing that i'm not i'm not i'm not
i'm not arguing that shelley ann is it's unbelievable i mean five world championships two
olympic goals a 200 meter championship two four by one championships what's to argue she's the
greatest you say i don't even have to say anything i don't need to say hey you just say you say
boat, the greatest sprinter ever.
Shelly Ann is the greatest woman sprinter ever.
But, you know, we're going to see what we're going to see.
We're going to try to make it.
We're going to make a two for two.
Sweet steak.
Yeah.
Hey, MJ got this.
Yeah.
Hey, y'all already know, Noah.
Got something for y'all.
Oh, Lee, go see no in the 200.
Chrisane, go see him in the 200.
Y'all want some, y'all won't smoke?
yeah all my fellow Jamaicans you know I love yeah I love you I love you every last one of you
I get them Jamaican knoxtails at least once a month uh yeah huh what go on yeah but y'all be
talking reckless man look at my eight ain't no upset it is an upset first of all it is an upset
because Noah was the reigning Olympic and world champ.
What do you mean it wasn't an upset?
It is.
If you beat the champ, it's an upset.
I'm not saying the oblique hadn't been running well.
Noah hadn't been,
Noah hadn't had a whole lot.
He was dealing with some injuries.
That's what he said.
He didn't run a whole lot,
didn't run a whole lot, 100 meters, didn't run home.
And he's taught himself he's a 200 meter specialist,
like Usain, that taught himself
how to be a good 100 meter runner, Ocho.
But I gave Seville and Thompson their credit.
They wanted to go and say they did.
They beat him.
I'm worried.
I'm worried. I'm worried about this 200.
Why, look.
I'm waiting.
He seems to be fit.
So, look, we know about, we know about Noah.
We know about Benari.
We know about Tobago.
I don't know if anybody else
can really challenge those three.
Noah seems to be as he's run
and he had to run rounds.
He's kind of run himself
conditioned where it needs to be
because there's nothing like racing.
You can get it in practice all you want to.
But you got to race.
Right.
You got to get your body conditioned
to run those four rounds.
And I like Noah chances.
we'll see I love him now I don't like him I love I love his team yes and if he if he doesn't win it's going to be an upset
it is I know Tobol go but I mean you talk about a guy that's won what three world championships
and everybody that's in this race he has the fastest time he's run 1931
he has the fastest time this year at 1963 Big Nerick is close by
behind him in 1967, and then Tobogo is at, what, 1776?
We know Tobogo is run, I think he ran 1941, 1943 at the Olympics.
So we know, whoo can run.
We know he has 200 meter capabilities.
He got DQed out of the 100 meters, but it's going to be interesting to see.
God don't know it.
Who want to bear something on it?
Put something on it.
Uh-oh.
What y'all got, Jamaicans?
What y'all want to put on this?
But y'all want to put up
a lot of yourself
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I'm taking Noah.
We're getting gold and silver.
We're going to pay y'all ass back.
Y'all took gold and silver in a hundred.
We're going to take gold and silver.
Sylve and the 200. That what we're about to do, Ocho. That we're about to do. What we got next. What
we got next. Ocho, one NFL scout field, Aaron Rogers, looked more comfortable with the
Steelers than he did during his final campaign with the Jets. AFC scout told ESP and Jeremy
followed that Rogers' Week 5 game with the Jets last season in London marked 6 to 8 weeks
of absolute zero mobility due to injury. He was compromised and it showed. But just being a
year removed from an Achilles tear, he seems a little bit more secure and a little less
hesitant compared to a year ago.
After week two loss, Roger said he believed he's moving a little bit better than in the
season opener.
Look, first of all, he's about to be 41, and he's coming off an Achilles injury.
I mean, it wasn't like he was Michael Vick or Lamar Jackson to begin with, but at you age
and you got that, that's a significant injury, Ocho, that used to be a death center.
you got that injury.
Absolutely.
Now, a career ender, put it like that.
So, but for him to still be able to like,
he can buy time, Mocho, he was never.
He was athletic enough to get out of harm's way
and be able to move.
He doesn't move with the ease that he once did,
but he still can make,
he can move well enough to make plays.
And yes, the year, it's the year after the surgery,
but it's the year after that, Ocho.
So last year was that first year.
But that next year after,
you get a little bit of that.
That's the Adrian Peterson spoiled us.
Because we saw a guy get his tear his knee up in December
and then come back to follow September
and he's like, hey, no, man, they lied.
It wasn't 2097, wasn't the MVP.
Absolutely crazy.
So he got people spoiled that have a significant injury
and come back.
And it wasn't the year after,
it was the very year after.
It wasn't a year after the year.
It was that next season.
And he did that.
But I think the thing is that
with Rogers,
if you go back and look at him,
Ocho, the game that he played really well,
Jacksonville and Miami,
late in the season,
it's warm weather. We'll see
when the temperature starts to get cold,
and it will in Pittsburgh,
and the temperature will get cold in where, Ocho,
Cincinnati, and it will get cold in Baltimore.
And you know, as we get to, oh, there's a reason why people move to,
as people start to age, they move to Arizona.
They move to Florida.
They're not trying to be in those damn cold weather cities,
like my grandma said, these old booms ain't what they used to be.
Yeah, I mean, even though he's not what he used to be,
he's coming from the coldest weather city where he plays football.
And being in Pittsburgh, it gets cold,
but we talk about, you know, 30, 40, that's cold.
You were planning below zero.
Yes.
No zero at times.
So I think he's going to fare.
He's going to be okay, especially a year and a year removed from that surgery.
He's going to be all right, especially with the scout is saying about him looking a little more calm,
a little bit more comfortable in the pocket, especially when he's having to extend plays.
He's going to be all right.
He's going to be all right.
Ocho says he's going to be all right.
Ocho, Atlanta Falcons, backup, Kirk Cousins,
isn't unanimously viewed as an impactor contributor
under center within the league,
according to NFL insider James Palmer.
There were some people around the league
that I talked to think Kirk Cousers is essentially done.
Nah, he's still collecting the check.
He still got somebody.
Dana received a report that the Falcons don't have
any immediate plans to trade Cousins
despite several injuries to starting quarterbacks
on opposing teams.
I think if somebody reached,
don't hate Atlanta.
Don't hate because what you could do, listen, I'm not Mike Brown.
I'm not Katie Blackburn.
I'm not Troy Blackburn.
I'm not Duke Tobin.
But I know if all else fails, we can go ahead and get Kirk Cunza over there to Cincinnati.
Too much money.
Y'all ain't fit to pay that.
You know he got like 40 million on that contract, Ocho.
This year.
I know.
And then he got another.
Hold on.
They gave 50, 30.
Stay with me now.
How much of that is Atlanta willing to pay?
Huh?
I'm not for the, oh, oh, Cho, so let me get this straight.
You want to move into my house, and you want, well, hey, how much, how much of the mortgage
you're going to pay?
Nothing, because I don't live there no more.
Okay, I'm just, I'm just throwing it back at you.
But, you know what, I'm just talking, listen, I'm just talking, I know what he can do at the
quarterback position when it comes to throwing that goddamn ball and you got two phenomenal the best duo
in the NFL over there in Cincinnati but we good we got oh jo yeah i do believe because guess what
oh cho you know your offensive line is not the best and what can and what can't he do move
yeah he can't so he can't that wasn't necessary though you need to bring that up you want to get
and be like joe burrow so you have two quarterbacks i'm just saying you didn't need to
bring up anything about our
offensive line.
You didn't have to do it.
Do y'all know his office line ain't good?
They say they didn't know your
offensive line ain't good, Ocho.
It's better in the Broncos.
No, it ain't.
It's not.
Did y'all win last week?
No, we did not win, Ocho.
Hey, well, you shouldn't be,
you shouldn't even be talking about football.
You shouldn't even be talking about football.
Okay.
You got me.
You got me.
Ben Johnson says bears don't have
championship caliber practice habits yet the bears are o and two and on the NFL worst point
differential minus 34 which pretty much speaks for itself for johnson the problem stem from the part
of bad preparation because his squad practice bad habits aren't yet reflection of are yet to reflect
a championship caliber team we should be going to football finishing hard we talk about this all the
time with offensive players that are fundamentals i finish our technique then they show us
up and walk through.
That's you.
Let me finish this on show.
They need to show up on the practice field.
That's how you show up on game day.
Simple things, how we properly block,
how we catch the ball,
how we block after the catch ball security,
things like that.
It's the little things that you learn in youth league football,
that even at this level,
they make a huge difference.
When Mike first got there,
1995, Ocho.
Yeah.
Put up there, say, this is what I expect.
You catch a pass.
I don't care how far the pass is.
You finish 40 yards.
Okay?
He said, we do walkthroughs.
It's really not a walkthrough.
It's a jog through.
This is how we do.
We don't walk on the field.
We don't walk off the field.
We jog on.
We jog off.
They thought Michael's bullshit.
They thought Michael's bulljiving.
Right, right, right.
After he started cutting a few people,
we got everybody on the body of attention.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
And then, you know, we win and everybody
starting to feel good, Ocho.
We go to walk through guys out there in Tim's.
Guys out there in Thames, guys out there in Thames,
guys out there in Ugs.
Hey, because Mike would be, like we, like we'd be practicing right where I'm at Mocho.
Mike would be down there like 20, 30 yards.
Yeah.
And he had his arms folded.
And he normally, he either have his arms, he normally had his hands in his pockets.
Anybody you play for the Broncos or you, you're a reporter, you've been around him, you know he's standing out there.
He got his hands in his pocket.
That day, he had his arms just like this here.
Right.
Man, who was that in them damn?
10, that's what I want to.
He didn't say nothing.
Because normally, you know, he happens, he had a call sheet, and he'll, hey, Koo, he
like, Koo, which means he wanted to see the first play again.
Kube.
Right.
He wants to see play number six again.
He ain't say nothing.
Well, laugh, Ocho.
So we run through it, you know, we run through it to our offense, defense come, offense again, defense.
might call it up.
You know, because normally he, when he called everybody
get up, you know, we run up there with you.
Ain't no drag it around.
We run up there like to feed us the last supper or something.
We run up there, you got to get a good old meal.
But anyway, he paused.
He don't say anything.
Then all of a sudden he said,
I don't know what the hell y'all think this is.
He said, this is real.
This is what you do.
This is what you get.
paid for everybody's here because I want you to be here and when we come out here we don't do
things the right way sometimes we do things the right way all the time now whomever I see
and them timbling boots
and shower shoes
and hugs
you won't be on this team no more.
But, Ocho, you know how you know,
I say, man, man, come on, bro.
Just put on T, Ocho, remember you used to have
turts shoes, Ocho, because you have a little knocking.
Yes, yes.
I said, guys, if y'all not going to work, please,
just put those on so you could.
Right.
Ocho, how are you a D.B.
And got on Tim's.
Come on, Ocho.
You're a linebacker, you got on Timbs.
You're a wide receiver you got on Timbs.
Really?
It's walkthrough, though.
Walk through, though.
It ain't no walkthrough.
He told you.
It ain't no walkthrough.
Ain't no walking.
A little light job.
Man, John throwing the ball 30 yards down the field.
How'd the head you're going to do a walk through
and you walk in and then he throwing the ball 30 yards?
Hey, that's funny.
Man.
I bet you, I bet you ain't nobody else showed him.
that bulljye.
Man, them guys were coming out of there.
Ocho, they got on, they got on their jeans.
They got on, then they try to get slick.
They have on, they have on sweats over their jeans.
Oh, Joe, when I try to tell them, man, shop.
Okay, okay, okay, so you're right, you're right.
I'm going to leave it alone.
You're right.
You're exactly right.
Mm-hmm.
Davos-Sweeney defended this program,
which started one and two during the heated news coverage saying,
hey, listen, if Clemson's tired of winning,
they can send me on my way.
But I'm going to go somewhere else and coach,
I ain't got to go to the beach.
Hell, I'm 55.
I've got a long way to go.
Y'all going to have to deal with me for a while.
All we've done is win.
We won the league eight out of the last 10 years.
Is that not good?
I'm just asking, is that not good?
To win your league eight out of 10 years?
Go to the playoffs, seven out of ten years,
being four national championships, win two, win it twice.
Yeah, we're going to load down right now, taking shots.
I've got a long memory.
We'll be all right.
We'll bounce back.
Every single season.
Ocho?
Every single season as a coach,
every single season, as a player,
you've got to update your resume.
Every year you've got to update your resume.
your resume. So
brother, brother dabbo talking about
what they did in the past as if it holds
any weight today, eh,
it's great, it's great for stories.
It's great for
conversation
barbershop topics.
It has no effect on the program of you being one
and two. I guarantee you to
take his ass in Alabama right now.
You know
he played why I received at Alabama.
Dabo
Played Meshima.
Okay.
It's that boy.
You know, on the side, they had a way of pronunciating thing.
Is that boy?
And they thought they were saying dabo.
Right.
Hence, Davo.
Oh, okay.
You know, we got a way with words, Ocho.
Word, yeah, yeah, we do.
Yeah, look.
It happens.
I mean, no.
winning the league eight out of 10 years.
It's great.
Being in four national championships and winning two, it's great.
Could have won three, could have lost.
I mean, the one you lost Alabama the first year,
you could have won that one.
The one you won, the one you won,
you could have lost that one.
You wouldn't beat LSU.
They beat the brakes off, y'all.
They beat the absolute breaks out of you.
But, no, he, uh, now, Davo's a good coach.
You ain't, you ain't,
there ain't very many coaches coaching right now better than Davo.
There ain't very many head coaches coaching right now
I got a resume that's as impressive as he is.
I know Ryan Day has been winning.
Kirby Smart,
but you ain't going much further than that
that you take it over Davo.
Right.
I'm just saying not his resume,
not the amount of guys that he's put in the NFL,
not the many times that he's, like he said,
he's won the title,
and, you know, he's been in the college football playoffs,
seven out of 10 years.
No, no, no, no.
Devo, Davo doing okay.
Like I said, fired.
I bet you Alabama hired.
It'd be hired in 24 hours.
All right, don't you know, now it's time for our final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q and A.
Listen, I'm ready for tomorrow, huh?
I'm ready for tomorrow.
Hey, I forgot to tell you, too.
I forgot to tell you.
I see, I know you, I know you don't like this kind of stuff.
Like, you know, I love blood.
lose. I love classical. I'm an enthusiast for all the old school arts, man, from the 50s
and the 60s and the 70s. If you ever have a chance, just do me a small favor. You know,
take, please, please go see the Rat Pack show at the Tuscany Hotel and Casino. I know,
I know you're probably not in the Sinatra like I am in the rap pack and Dean Martin and Sammy.
Without check it out. I'm telling you just, you got to see it one time. You got to see it one time.
got to see it one time. The guy who plays
Sammy David Jr., he told me to tell you
hello. He told me to tell you he loves
watching the show, but
it was unbelievable.
Oh, Joe, you told me you're supposed
to be going to the Grids Cafe. What happened?
I went there every morning. I went there
every morning where I was there. When matter of fact,
hold on, listen to me. Her name
is Ms. Trina.
Mentrina is waiting on you. I told her. I say
Matrina, I told him to come to Gris Cafe
over and over and over.
Trust me, he's going to get here.
I don't know what time he wake up, but he's going to come in.
Yeah.
They wait, no, you ain't got to pay for nothing.
But the food there's phenomenal.
You hear me?
Man, please.
Man.
Whatever.
No, I'm, I'm just saying, damn, Ocho ain't, ain't common, so I guess,
Hey, listen, you're not, Unk, I'd be up at 7 o'clock in the morning.
You ain't going to get up there early, but I'd be up.
I get up at, Ocho.
I get up at, Ocho, most of the time I'm up at 6.
walk in Titus.
I got to walk in before it get hot.
Okay, okay, my bad.
And plus, I grew up, you do I realize I grew up,
I grew up having to get up early.
Okay, well, you know, my routine, especially when I'm in Miami.
I'm up at 5 o'clock.
I'm at the gym at 6.
Boom, 7 o'clock.
I'm eating breakfast wherever I'm eating it at.
I mean, you know, but you got to hit Gris Cafe.
I need you to hit that.
I need you to try a soul food cafe, which is right on Rainbow Boulevard,
nice old food, catfish and grits and
feed. And then
I know where it is. Just
a one night, just
please go see the Rat Pack show
at the Tuscany Hotel
and Casino. That's all I ask of you.
Matter of fact, that's your homework. Matter of fact,
I ain't paying you until you go see it. How about that?
I just mad, he ain't going to pay me.
He's going to put the man on which he
paid me back my money.
No, listen, because I want
you to be able to experience what I was able to experience.
last night.
Unbelievable.
I mean, you're not really into that
that kind of music like I am,
but until you experience it and be like,
oh, this is what it was like back then
in the 60 with Sammy Davis and Dean Martin
and the chemistry, the fan engagement.
I want to, I pay like $50,000
I can experience it. I can really experience it.
No, I'm a call up there and I'll pay for the tickets.
No, no, no, no.
I need to $5,900 in my pocket.
I got you.
Hey, what's your Apple Pay?
I get you.
I send you right now.
You see?
You see?
Man, you know, I got Apple Pay, bad.
You don't want it.
PayPal, they got all these apps.
If you really want it that bad.
Can you send that much money on Apple Pay and stuff?
Yes.
The limit is $7,500.
I ain't know.
Yes.
Yeah, it is.
See, see?
Shelly got it.
Shelly got Venmo.
And I think Apple.
Nah, she got Venmo and Zale.
okay i can sell it to him tell tell it what just send me the number all right kepper norwood
jr said oh my question is what are your top four super bowl party snacks i think you got to have
like chips you got to be number one oh joe you got to have chips yeah of course of course of course
Doritos, any chip related.
Frito, Doritos, Doritos, potato chips,
those, one of that.
Caso? You got to have some queso, Joe?
What the hell is queso?
Like cheese with ground beef in it?
Y'all, you don't have it?
I don't, I don't know about no queso.
I ain't ever had no queso.
What else?
Wings?
Yeah, wings, wings.
I ain't been to a Super Bowl party in so long.
Hell, when it's the Super Bowl, I'm at the damn Super Bowl.
I ain't been, Ocho.
I don't have a Super Bowl party.
Because guess what?
Who are you for?
You ain't for my team?
You can't come over.
You ain't fin to be jumping and cheering in my house.
Just they cheer in your own damn house.
Hey, who are you for?
Man, I'm for such.
It's a, okay, come on over.
Ain't nobody cheering
You're not been to be in my ear
Your team winning
Because I'm put you out
Right
See I don't like simple parties
Don't for the simple fact that
All the drinking and the noise
And the party
I like to actually watch the game
I like to see everything unfold
When it's nice and quiet
I like to hear the announcers
I like to see it on me
Man
And they get mad
Man shop you turn it on
No
You can't hear at the bar
When you go to the bar
You can hear them games
It's so much noise going on, you don't hear nothing.
Now you want to come up here and pretend like, huh?
You listen to the Super Bowl with no sound?
God damn.
Ocho, I haven't heard.
I have the only thing I listen to with the sound.
The only thing I listen to with the sound is track and field.
I don't listen to basketball games.
I don't listen to football games.
Ocho, I find myself, man, watching TV.
It's like, close caption good for me.
I don't, it doesn't happen so much, Ocho.
I mean, I don't even, I wouldn't even know.
The only thing I listen to
what is track and field.
Because I get so excited to hear them call the game,
to call the Vett Auto Bowton and Sonja Richard Ross.
Man, Tom Hammers used to be my favorite.
The new guy they got, now, I love him too.
Tom Hammer was amazing.
But that's the only thing.
I don't watch.
I don't listen to any.
I don't listen to any sporting event would sound.
So I'm trying to think.
So it's wings or wings got to be one hot.
I know you got hot dogs at your Super Bowl party.
Oh, you know, hey, listen, I like my hot dog now.
If you have anything and you want me to show up, have some damn hot dogs.
I don't need no condoms.
I think chips.
I'm trying to think the last time I had an event.
I mean, it was, man, I might have been, ooh-wee, it's probably been about 15 years.
Yeah.
Chips, wings.
I don't know.
I just, I don't know, pizza.
I just get a bunch, I just say, Shirley, get a bunch of stuff.
that you think people would like.
Right.
They don't like it.
It's going to the trash.
So,
nothing, hey, you eat no paper.
So don't be asking me,
hey, man, what a plate's that?
Right there.
Yeah.
I ain't nobody watching no dishes.
See, see, we're the same.
I live like that 365 days a year.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, I don't eat out nothing.
I don't eat out nothing.
My kids come here?
I need a cup.
We'll go to the Red Solo Cups right there.
Thank you very much.
Hey, them Dixie plastic plates, they right there.
We don't have, we don't have no civil.
I got all plastic, everything, plastic forks, spoons, and knives.
Man, Ocho, when I moved to L.A., I had two forks, two spoons, and a knife.
That's all you need.
That's all you need.
And when I moved, when I moved to Vegas,
They left everything.
When they say, Ocho, the house as is,
Ocho, the only thing they took
when they closed out of the closet.
They left towels, they left linen,
they left wine, they left beer,
they left you tips, they took nothing.
They left cases of water.
When I say they didn't take anything,
they didn't take anything.
If I didn't know, they might be a witness protection,
they'd somebody hire from somebody,
because they were gone.
Why not say, Uncle Ocho,
what career would you rather have?
winning two rings of the practice squad player
or making the Hall of Fame and having no ring.
Making the Hall of Fame.
Oh, damn, practice squad.
Man, come on.
You not.
Kind of questioning.
I mean, you got to say, okay,
be a good player and win two rings
or make the Hall of Fame.
A practice squad,
oh, you didn't get to play in the games.
You just got that shit.
Yeah.
Hell now.
Aaron Jones, with that Vegas reference,
you're proving that,
The players know too, so why is it a big deal?
Tom isn't in, Tom isn't in any other private practices.
You're missing the point.
He's talking to coaches.
You think any of the coaches that potentially might play the Raiders?
We got a different of opinion.
It's okay, Aaron.
Ephraim Rogers says, nice jacket, Ocho,
look like it's worth $5,900.
Salute, gentlemen, keep going.
Y'all see that?
Chad.
Chat.
Hey,
this man on Broadway.
This man really played
in my face, y'all.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
The Louis Vuitton stuff
you're seeing,
you're seeing me wear
as of recent
because I'm trying to get
a brand deal with Louis Vuitton.
It's ain't nothing like that.
See, my baby bought me this.
So you brought me the little set.
You got the little pants, too.
I know, I know it's the track outfit.
Yeah, you know.
see that?
Well, have your baby to pay me my money.
I take, I take, I take, I take, I take, I take, I take, I take, I take, I take, I take, I
hold on, it's, it's, it's, end of the month.
Okay.
Nah, you play child support at the beginning of the month.
Well, nah, my, listen, those I have kids from, we, we, we negotiated and I pay on the,
on the back end of the month.
Okay.
Well, how, how your baby will break me off my money, 59?
She's watching.
I'm going to ask her.
Baby sent unc that 5900.
Jayne up Akron, I know Ocho ain't all here
trying to make bets.
You still owe me a jersey from last year, Steelers win.
Break brand, Ocho, or break that jersey?
Hold on, hold on.
Time out, time out, time out.
Listen, I love my Steelers fans.
I love y'all.
And, you know, I've always shown respect and grace.
I don't remember making that bet.
I sure, I surely don't.
Did we shake on it?
No.
Like, if we ain't shake on that, that really ain't no bet.
Bad, Ocho, we usually go right here just owing everybody.
I don't owe nobody nothing.
Only, only people I owe right now as me is the IRS.
That's it.
You owe me $5900.
Well, you might have to talk to Uncle Sam first.
I'm going to have to garnish your wages, O's show.
I'm sorry.
I'm about to best your credit up.
I'm about that's what I got to do.
I got to guard your wages.
Chad, should I guard his own your wages?
I mean, the man ain't going to pay me in my money, Chad.
He ain't going to pay me.
He just won't do right.
I told you, listen, go see the Rat Pack show in Vegas.
I'm going to pay you as soon as you tell me how it was.
Can I go see another show?
No, you got to see that one.
What if I go see the Blue Man Group?
No, that, no, hit me.
Come on, we talk about Rat Pack, Frank Sinatra,
Blue Man, Blue.
You're the Frank Sinatra fan.
I'm going to go see the Michael Jackson play then.
No, man.
You don't understand.
See, you don't understand it to you.
All right, I'm going to give you for comparison
and better context for today.
The Rat Pack, that show is equivalent
to going to a Chris Brown show.
Going to see Beyonce.
That's exactly what you like.
Oh, Lord.
I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm giving you the comparison
of what it was like in the 50s and 60s.
The rap pack was equivalent to Beyonce and Chris Brown back then.
Stage presence, engaging with the fans.
Oh, I thought you said, okay.
Making you feel a part of the show.
I mean, I've seen it, you know, they're talking, they say, smoking the cigarettes, I get it.
Yes, yes.
And they do all that.
They do every, it's like you back in the 60s.
go check just check it out from me man please please
they wait on you
Tino Davis said oh my birthday is tonight at midnight
Ocho I want a jersey
Tino happy birthday
I don't know about that jersey
he's going to make promises but you're probably not going to get it
but anyway happy birthday enjoy today
do something fun
another year around the sun man
and make sure
your birthday make sure
you tell the man thank you for allowing you
to see another one.
Oh, yeah.
Big Church said someone had too much
of Leporty to drink tonight.
Take away bottle up.
Bro, y'all actually think I'd get on here, drunk.
Y'all actually think I would, I would go show up to the job.
Come on that.
I would, I don't show up on that man job, drunk.
What makes you think I'm going to show up on my own,
at my own place, drunk?
Come on now.
Well, y'all, but you know what, Ocho.
Now, Saturday, you was at the fight.
I can, I can point in Stephen A.
Not what they said online.
That was a simple conversation.
A funny conversation
because they can see me sitting there laughing my ass off.
Stephen A, did you hear Stephen A?
Did you hear what Stephen A said about it?
Nah.
What was Steve?
What did I tell Stephen A?
What did he, Stephen A told you I said to him?
You asked me?
I can't remember.
I asked you, I said, you told me that when I saw you again,
you're going to have a six-pack.
I said, he said, man, I gained 187 because I was, I was,
I said, that ain't no six-pack, Stephen, that ain't no six-pack.
He said, I gained, I don't put on 20, I don't put on 15,
I think he said 15 pounds.
He said, man, he said, you know I'm back to eat my,
my crunch berries and suck.
I say, see, that is what you told me. See, I ain't there to keep you, I ain't there to hold
you accountable. He wasn't no confrontation. What about confronting Stephen A. about it. Yeah,
it was so funny. I posted us all talking, uh, Mrs. But I put the song, We Are One by
Frankie Bess and Mays. Like, I, I don't know. It's just a, it's a good moment. I said,
how did you come to the? Well, you know,
they're going to make up their own conclusions based on that's all that's all you can pay that you pay that
no mind sure i'm like i talked to stephen a on the phone i mean i talk to him
so there would be no need to confront him if we have a if we talk on the phone which we still do
yeah why do y'all want why do y'all want drama why y'all want to do so what would i confront
stephen a about i'm just that's what i mean i need somebody to tell me what i'm going to confront
him about. Nothing. Nothing.
Paul, I say, poor.
You know, the media going to run with that. They're going to create their own little narrative.
You know how, you know how that goes.
You know, one guy said, you know, he can't read lips, but he can read body language.
Boy, boy, boy, must love cash. Super Bowl party nightcap live at Ocho's house.
I bring plastic cups, mustard for my glissie.
Yeah, we'll have it right down there in that white room.
Oh, absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
And I need red, I need red coolies.
Absolutely not.
But when I take, well, everything in here is white.
Everything.
Ain't nobody coming there.
Boy, my kids got to come here.
They take the shoes off.
They can't touch nothing.
Don't sit on nothing.
Go straight to your room.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mm-mm.
Like my grandma was back with me.
Don't you sit on that couch.
I say, why I can't sit on the couch
and you got plastic over it?
Yep, that ain't for you to sit on.
Man, go to your room.
As Strah said,
Ocho like hot dogs without the bun.
Damn, Ocho.
Why would I not,
without the bun?
It wouldn't be a hot dog.
That makes no sense.
I don't like no condiments on my hot dog.
I like my hot dog with the bun.
The bun's slightly warmed up a little bit,
squeeze it together, and you eat it.
Sometimes if there's people around me,
I break off a piece,
jug it like dice,
pop it in.
So I still look cool.
I'm let you have that one, Ocho.
I just want you to know
next year this time you're not going to be able to say that, okay?
You know, I got, you know, I'm saying, I got.
What?
I ain't say no more.
You know, next year this time, I'm, you know, I'd be our probation.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
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