Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Cam Newton leaving Jalen Hurts out of the Top 10 QBs

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Cam Newton leaving Jalen Hurts out of the top 10 QBs in the NFL, Keenan Allen remains unsigned in the NFL, WNBA players warm up in ‘Pay us what you owe us’ T-Shirts at WNBA all star weekend and much more! 1:08:25 Cam Newton leaves Jalen Hurts out of his top 10 QBs1:19:30 Keenan Allen Remains Unsigns1:22:50 WNBA Pay Us What You Owe Us tshirts1:37:40 Marcus Smart1:42:00 Ocho’s Old Storage Units Purchased1:59:15 Q & Ayyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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with less than ideal access? Should you, that's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand. Listen to Back 40 starting July 30th on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Cam Newton started a firestorm when he didn't have Jalen Hurts

in his top 10 quarterbacks in the league. Jalen Hurts is a great quarterback, but if we're talking about what they bring to the table, it's hard to judge what Jalen do when you're throwing to a guy like AJ Brown, Devontae Smith. You have a tight end skillset, you have a tight end skill set. You have a dominant defense and the best running back in the game. Jalen Hurts does not have to play elite for the Eagles to win.

He has to play good, but he doesn't have to play elite. We're just asking you to win the game. We're just asking you not to lose it. Okay. T.O. is what T what Tio had to say. Yeah, you would be judging him as if all that wasn't playing well. This is a skimp bailers type of a statement with dreads. Don't be mad at Jalen because he's making great decisions.

Maybe had you made the decision to jump on that ball, just maybe. Y'all will say anything to go viral. This isn't it, Cam. Mm. That's touchy. It's touchy. But listen, as a quarterback, you have to respect what Cam is saying. As a receiver, I understand Jalen's side.

I understand what Nick Ceriani asked from Jalen Hurts. I understand that they are a team where it's not aesthetically pleasing from an off-of-the-stand point of throwing the ball two million times a game. I get that they are a team where it's not aesthetically pleasing from an off of the standpoint of throwing the ball two million times a game. I get that. Why do you think AJ Brown was upset some games? Why do you think AJ Brown takes that book and reads a book on the sidelines some days and some games? Some games he goes off, some game Devontae Smith goes off.

Saquon Barkley does what he can just do. Jalen Hurts does exactly what the Philadelphia Eagles ask of him when it comes to winning that offense. And he does it to perfection, which is why they have them fucking big ass goddamn rings. That's it. It's simple. The game of football is not complicated. Understand your personnel, understand your personnel strengths and your personnel's weaknesses. Use it to your advantage and play simple football. It's not complicated. It's not hard. And they do exactly what they're

supposed to do. Play within the confines of what we do well. It ain't throwing the ball a hundred times a game. It's throwing it when you have to. It's running it when you need to. Simple. It really is. I look at it like what is required of me to win? Now I'm not finna punish this guy because he's throwing the great receivers. Because Troy threw to a great receiver, Terry Bradshaw threw to great receivers, Joe Montana threw to great receivers. There are a lot of great quarterbacks that's in the Hall of Fame that threw to great receivers.

So I'm not finna hold that against him. Troy Aikman's in the Hall of Fame and he just got the all time leading rusher in his backfield. So do we hold that against him? Did we hold that M mammoth offensive line? Many believe he had the greatest offensive line in history. We don't hold that against him. Right. At the end of the day,

you do what is asked, what is required of you in order to win the game. That's it, and he does it. I'm sure Jaylen Hurts Jaylen Hertz in college played, prepared him for the NFL. Because playing for Nick Saban, you're going to play to win the game. Now it might require you to throw it 35 times.

Yes, sir. More times than not, you're going to run it 40 times and you're going to play outstanding defense. So he was prepared for this. I watched him in Oklahoma and I watched him throw the ball. He can. Yeah. But that's not what required. And I don't believe I don't know if that's the if he do ask him to throw the ball. I'm not saying that he couldn't. Yeah, he can. I don't know if that's conducive for them to win. Why would I go get St. Juan Barclay to all of a sudden now unleash Jalen Hurts throwing

the ball 35, 40 times a game like he's, you know, they running and running and shoot? That makes no sense. It's not what they do. That's not even their off, that's not even the scheme of their offense. That's not what it is. Right. That's not even what they do. It's balance.

Hell, the offense that they run is damn there. So the question I have. It's damn there. It's damn there like it was in the 2000s. Yeah That's basically what it is outside everybody else everybody else throwing it throwing it throwing it throwing it throwing it throwing it and listen What works for you stay within the realm of what works for you not trying to please everyone else? I'm trying to win damn because there are a lot of people that, oh, baby, look at our offense, look at our offense. And what'd that offense get you?

Home in January. Thank you. Now, Jalen Hurts has been playing, look, they went to the Super Bowl, they lost, they got kicked, bounced out early next year, the next year they go back and win. So it seems like this formula that Eagles have is working quite well.

It's funny, he's been, listen, not top five, but he went to the Superbowl two years in a row, losing one and winning the next one. And there's a good chance where they've gotten better, added some additions with the draft and the off season. And there's a chance they could go back again. There's a chance they could go back again, barring injury. I think the thing is, and I don't want to speak for Cam, but I think Cam is looking

at it like, so what would Patrick Mahomes do in that offense? What would Joe Burrow do in that offense? What would Lamar Jackson do in that offense? He's looking at other guys implementing them and says, well, if I took Jaylen Hurts and I put him in Kansas City, you think they going to all them Subos and doing all that? Well, yeah, another thing, huh? Another thing for Cam,

if you're hypothetically putting different players, putting Joe Burrow on the Eagles, you putting Patrick Mahomes on the Eagles, then the offense itself changes drastically to fit with those players and those quarterbacks do well. Right. It'd be completely different. I'm sure Joe Burrow would like to have that offensive line.

I'm sure Patrick Mahone would like to have that offensive line. Hey, listen. Hey, cause if they had those offensive line, they'd be billionaire players. Yeah. Cause they would act literally play in 20 plus years. And you see what the quarterbacks are making now.

They would literally leave the NFL having earned a billion dollar in earnings. Jayler Hirsch is what he is. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if he's, I don't think I would I would he's five. If I you say he's top five, he's five. Five. Yeah. Cuz I'm not I'm not I'm not I wouldn't take it. There are certain guys I wouldn't take him over.

Right. But I don't I'm not getting him out of the top five. Yeah. I mean the top top ten. Absolutely. Absolutely. I like it. But but again, you know, Cam Cam. It's preference. Ocho is what you like. Yeah, Cam, Cam. You like, you like, you like cyber trucks. I like Range Rovers. Somebody else like an old school. Right. Somebody likes a Mercedes.

Somebody likes BMW. Somebody likes Rolls. Somebody like, you know, the Bentleys. It's preference. And maybe Jalen Hurts isn't as aesthetically pleasing to the eye because he's not going to throw for 400 yards. He's not going to have games like that. He's just going to win.

He'll throw for 200. He'll do what is required in order to win the game. Yeah. Yeah. And early in the year, I just knew that he was going to have to do more. And when they needed him to do more come playoff time in the Super Bowl, he did that. Because Kansas City shut down Saquon.

He had to do it with his legs and he had to throw the ball and he did that. Yeah. That goes to say, and obviously what Cam said is I listen to him. I listen to what Cam says because he's a quarterback. He played the game. Now I don't have to agree with what you're saying, which in this case I don't. I'm not sure how you come up with the conclusion

on why you feel Jalen Hurts is not in your top five, but I gave you my reason why I think he is. And a lot of people aren't gonna agree with Cam for whatever reason, but I don't either. You know, but again, he played the position. He might view it from a different lens and everybody else. What lens that is, I'm not sure, but Jay is definitely top five and he's at five. But look at the receivers that Peyton had.

Nobody held that against him. He had Reggie, Marvin, Brandon Stokely. He had- Dallas Clark. Gonzalez, he had Dallas Clark. He had Marshall Faulk, he had Edgeron James. Nobody held that against him. Look at what Kurt Warner had. He had Ozakirra Keen, he had Tory Holt,

he had Isaac Bruce. he had Marshall Falk. Ricky Pro, Arthur Keen. Ricky Pro, I don't know if he had, I think, didn't they draft Steven Jackson? I think he had Steven, maybe he wasn't there with Steven Jackson. Oh man. First of all, everybody, in order for you to win, you gotta have great players. You gotta have talented players. Absolutely. Absolutely. It's a different. It's a different time now. It really, it's just really that simple. It is. Yeah. You see the money these guys making and look, cam, this is what Cam is saying. I'd have won Super Bowls if I'd have been in a system like that.

But they asked me and they required me to do much more. That's what, basically in a nutshell, that's what he's saying. I didn't have those receivers and I didn't have a running game like that. And my offensive line damn sure wasn't that good. We had a good defense, but it wasn't that. Right. And my offensive line damn sure wasn't that good. We had a good defense, but it wasn't that. Right. I was required to do what they asked Mahomes, what they asked Burrow, what they asked some of these other quarterbacks. They don't ask Jalen to do that.

I know what you want to say. Right. That's a good way to look at it. It's a good way to put it. It's a good way to put it. But two different- And I hate to, but I think me- Two different situations. I'm sitting back, Ocho. Watch Cam's career.

Right. From start to finish. I think that's what he's saying. Me, look at what I was asked to do. Right. Look at what he's asked to do. Look at the players that he had surrounding him. Look at what I had surrounding me.

Right. We can do this basically with everybody. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. You definitely can. Check out Behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go

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Stop playing. Six-time Pro Bowler finished last year with the Bears 70 receptions 744 yards seven touchdowns With Mike Williams sudden retirement from the charges Ocho. Would you like to see Kenan back with the charges? Hey, listen, it would be nice. It would be really nice But the the difficult part about it is Keeling at times like he plays in the slot, but Lad McConkey is taking that position. Lad McConkey, matter of fact, his name is Ladarius.

Ladarius McConkey has taken that slot spot. Now there are so many other teams that can use Keeling Allen's service and his office of prowess of being able to get open and create separation, intermediate short routes and moving the chains down the field. There's really no reason with camp right around the corner, if I'm not mistaken, two days from now, he should be an officer. There are a lot of veterans that are out there. If you look at the names, some big names that would be great for and be a great veteran

presence in locker rooms around the NFL. I think they're gonna get signed. You know what happens obviously in camp, people pull stuff, people get hurt, you know, God willing, no serious injuries. And I think most of the veterans, some of the big names that we're used to seeing, they're gonna be in a roster.

They're gonna be in a roster. I just wanna hope and make sure that they're ready to go in there training when that time presents itself. How much is he asking? Oh, money-wise. Yes. You gotta be fair.

You gotta be fair. And I'm sure knowing him, he's made his money. Ocho, you homeless. Let me ask you a question, Ocho, you homeless? Yeah. You hungry? Talk to me. You got a bachelor Ocho, you homeless. Yeah. You hungry. Talk to me. You got a bachelor's degree and you got a master's degree. But the jobs that you're qualified for aren't offering that.

Well, that's a good one there, boy. So that's the question it comes down to. Now it comes down to how much do I love the game? How much do I really want to play? Thank you. Because I've already made the bulk of my money. He done made the bulk of his money already. I got my nice little nest egg.

Do I really want to get out there and do this? Right. Do I want to wake up for me? No, no, no, no, no. That's not the question. The question is, do I want to do this for this amount of money? I'm with you when you write. I'm with you when you write.

I ain't want to say it like that, but you took the words right out of my mouth. Oh, write. I'm with you when you write. I ain't wanna say it like that, but you took the words right out of my mouth. Ocho, I wanna work. Right. But I don't wanna work for that. I'm just telling you, that's how people think. Because a lot of times people like, yeah, I want a job.

Right. Oh, but fast food, that's beneath me, Ocho. Shh, shit me. Not if you hungry. Not if you trying to feed somebody other than yourself. Hell, even if you try to just feed yourself. Not if you got to pay rent. Yeah, yeah.

You got to do what you got to do. Yeah, man, most definitely. Man, I ain't paying for that little bit of money. Okay, well, hey. So you'd rather go with nothing going home man hey he got a nice family I've seen him on social media with his wife and his kids going home with them nah nah he coming he coming he coming he coming oh Joe WNBA players warmed up

in t-shirts ahead of the all-star game last night the t t-shirts featuring the words, pay us what you owe us. After the All-Star game when the Fisha, Fee Collier won the MVP trophy, the crowd shouted, pay them, pay them, pay them. Oh Joe, what you thinking? Listen, pay it, pay them what they owe. Now listen, I keep hearing rumblings. I don't know enough about this to get in depth with it and talk about it like I should, but I understand they get a very small percentage of the revenue that they do bring in. Right. Stay with me now, chat.

Y'all stay with me. I'm listening. I'm listening. They make a very small percentage of the revenue that they do bring in. Pay them what you owe them a little bit more than what they're already making based on the revenue that they bring in. Okay. I mean, it's not rocket science. It's not complicated. NFL players, I'm not sure what percentage of NFL revenue they make that they bring in.

I'm planning to get 48% of... 48%. If I'm not mistaken get 48% of. 48%. If I'm not mistaken, I might've saw something that said NBA players get 9% of NBA revenue, WNBA. No, that's the WNBA get 9% of the revenue. Let's get that up a little bit more. That's all. That's all.

The game, the game for them, for the women is continuing to grow. A lot of people make a fuss, oh, don't nobody watch this, that, ain't nobody watching them. Oh, people are watching. They're filling up the stands. Every goddamn game I go to, I see the lines.

Hell, I've been to the games, so somebody lying. Twitter lying to me, because every time I turn on a game or look at a game, the motherfucking stadium is full. Everyone. The motherfucking stadium is full. Everyone. Pay us what you owe. That's a slippery slope.

Why? Because from everything that I've read, the WNBA has never turned a profit. So if I'd never turned a profit, Ocho, so let me get this right. I'm losing money, but you want to raise. Right. Something ain't adding up.

If you never turn to profit, WNBA been around how long? How many years now? 96, I think the year they started. And they never turned to profit, but it still seems to be running just well and fine and continuing to grow. Some, somebody, somebody- I mean, look, there's some saying that the NBA is supplementing, some people say they're not supplementing,

but the one thing that's not being refuted is that they're not making the money where they could like, oh, the reason why the salary's for the, think about it, Ocho. Right. JJ Watt made $112 million. Right. In his career.

His career, right. His brother just got a $123 million contract. Right. For three years. Because why? The NFL revenue is increasing exponentially. Okay, I like that. But listen, if WNBA has been around since 96, I'm not good at math, so I'm not going

to say how many years it's been. At some point in that time, whether it turns a profit or not, that profit has still increasingly got better and better and better. So if you only make 9% of the profit in revenue that you're bringing right now, there's nothing wrong with making a little bit more. Just a little bit more. Don't give it too much. How much?

Oh, see. Because I think, look, I don't think- That's not my area of expertise. That would be amongst them to figure out. But I'm just saying, just a little bit more. A lot of times, Ocho, when you feel you've been underpaid for the length of time that you've been underpaid, you don't feel that's enough. You don't feel that's enough.

You don't feel they can pay you enough. Ocho, I can't back pay you for 30 years. I like that. Right, Jadibare? Yeah. Hold on. Hold on. The WNBA players get 9.3% of the league revenue. NBA, NHL, NFL players get 50% of the revenue the WNBA did lose 40 million dollars in 2024 what a large part was that was due to they are currently signed to which

2026 goes from roughly 45 million to 200 million annually this will result in the essence Result in essence the league making money overnight and losing 40 million to a net gain of 115 just alone in TV deals. Even if game tickets sold were to stop growing, the merch stopped selling, it will still be in the green. So, with that being said. Hold on, lost 40 million? Yes.

Lost? Yes. Lost. Yes. You sure you read that right? You said lost. They lost 40 million last year. Yes. But but in 26, they're going to go from getting 45

million annually for TV to 200 million. Yeah, there we go. Now we talking. Now we talking business. But hey. Pay us what you owe. But still, no, I'm going to pay you moving forward. I'm not trying to make up for back pay. Okay, okay.

Well, okay, don't pay us what you owe. Pay us moving forward, but it better be looking better than that 9.8% that we are getting. Okay? Yeah. And listen, the game is growing tremendously. More eyes, more visibility, kids are watching. Listen, what Caitlyn Clark has been able to do, along with the others that laid the foundation,

that laid the footprint, the Asia Wilsons, the Angel Reeses, I like where it's going. Paige Buckers, I mean, come on, man. Becker's. Becker's, yeah, my bad, I'm talking about Buck going. Page, Buckers, I mean, come on, man. Becker's. Becker's, yeah, my bad. I'm talking about Buckers. I was thinking about Jam. Yeah, so I was thinking about Smuckers, my bad, my bad.

Yeah. Yeah, but I mean. Yeah, I think the thing is, I think, let's see, the nine. You got to at least, I mean, at least you got to get to 20% at the bare damn minimum, right? You said, listen, you said 20, I was finna say 19. No, but I'm saying, I'm saying 20% at the bare damn minimum, right? You said, listen, you said 20, I was, I was finna say 19. No, but I'm saying, I'm saying that's at the bare minimum. Right. You right. You right. I like it. Shoot. Hey, listen. Look, Ocho, look, you and I both know they're not about to get the 50%.

They're not about to get the 50% that the uh. That's, that's, that's, that's not, that's not. They're not gonna get 50. No. That's not, that's not, that's not. They're not going to get 50. No. So maybe, hey, can we triple it? Can we get to, can we get to 27, 28%?

Yeah. Do right. Shoot, they need to let me go in there. I get what you owe. I get what you owe. I get what you owe. Put me in that goddamn room, but who would I have to talk to, uncle? If it comes down to...

The owners? The owners? Oh shit. Well, I mean, what's the lady, the commissioner? What's the lady? Kathy Engelberg. Engelhardt Engelberg. Yeah.

So basically you work with the commissioner, Engelbert? Yeah, I mean- So basically you worked with the commissioner then their lawyer? Yeah. And the WNBA lawyers, and you have the WNBA PA and their lawyers and you're like, okay. Yeah, all right. Yeah, all right.

Walking in with my nice suit on. How you doing? Yeah, I think, look, so you're increasing, you're increasing basically 4%, 4.5%, right? So you're going up, I mean, you think about, you're going from 4.5, so you four times, 4.5 times the money. You going from 45 million annually to 200 million annually.

And they're looking to bring on a couple other teams, right? Oh, we need a Miami team. Maybe I could be the owner of the Miami team. They had a Miami team. First of all, y'all barely support the Heat, stop. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, man, don't, don't, don't. And they had a good player, Ruth Riley,

she used to, she was one of the better players at the WNBA. She used to go to this Boutique Spin studio, so. But, nah, no, not in Miami. Yeah. Too much going on. What you mean? But we, man, you know what? How y'all, how y'all, how y'all, how y'all,

how y'all doing with the Marlins? The Marlins? How y'all do with the Heat? You know y'all come to the game at halftime at the Heat, right? Yeah, but hold on, listen to me. Let me, listen to me real quick. See, it's one thing, this is what I love about Miami, okay?

Let's talk about the women. We talk about the WNBA. One thing about women is women show up on time. One thing about women, women support each other. You know why we know they don't. That's why we're in the situation that we're in. Because if women supported each other, it'd be more. That's the problem.

Okay, okay. The women ain't supporting the women of the WNBA. Right, I see, yeah, you're right, you're right. I just think for some reason, if I was a star of the WNBA franchise, that thing would be lit, boy. I have, it's not America Airlines renting no more. What is it?

Hell, don't start me lying. Hell, you live in Miami. I forgot the name of the rental. It was FTA. I mean, listen, all them scams, they be scamming the names and it keep changing. So I don't know, but. Yeah, I want, look, I think, can we get the salaries,

can we get the top salaries to at least a million dollars a year, Ocho? Ooh, now we talking. Can we get, before Juju get here, can we get it like that? Can we get at least, can we get, I mean, I think the highest you can make is what, 245, 250?

Nah, make it $500, man. Make it $500. Hey, 18 young ladies, boy, when they be- 17 million? Who makes 17 million? Oh, so now you talk about three million. You have some three million dollar ladies. Yeah.

Yeah. Hey, Lil' Aji Wilson, she, little A.J. Wilson. She should be making through me in a year. I was hoping that I tripled it, go to 27, 28. I don't think they go into 40, Ash. I don't think they gonna even get to 30. The internet math only did 40%.

Yeah. I think, I think realistically, 20, I think, I think 2025. And maybe go incrementally. From there, from that point on? Yeah. Hey, hey, man, that's a good idea, man. Now that I think about it.

What? I would sit here pondering or reflecting on like, me and you, we can go half on a WNBA franchise in Miami. They were, hey, did you see the Valkyries? They just got valued at 500 million. Who? The Valkyrie. They just came into existence last year.

500 million. The Liberty, 450. Right. No. Shannon Ocho ain't gonna fit into do nothing. Nah, listen, I'm gonna call Jeff tomorrow. I'm gonna set up a call with Jeff. I'm gonna set up a call with Jeff.

Yeah, those franchises are becoming very, I mean, you see Eli, Eli, the back down, you know, he was supposed to become a solid partner, but you know, 1% partner with the Giants. Who, which Eli? Eli Mning. Okay. Well, he said no. Bro, you see the valuation of these teams? Oh yeah. Yeah. So, even even if you talk at 1% Ocho, you're talking hundreds of millions. Yeah. Yeah. Ain't a whole lot of

people just sitting on 100 million dollars can go get their hands on 100 million dollars Ocho. I know somebody. Yeah, I know somebody too. Yeah. It just ain't nobody ain't nobody I'm really close to. I know some people too. It just ain't nobody I'm close to. Yeah, I know some people. I know a few people.

Hey, that was a good one. That was a good one. I don't think people really, hey, I mean, when you could just go, hey, go touch it. I mean, you can go touch it. Yeah. And look here, nah. But I look, I would like to see them at least at bare,

at the absolute bare minimum. Yeah. It goes to double, which would be 18 and a half to 19%. I would like it be somewhere, you know, being realistic. I like to be realistic. I'll be pie in the sky and say, yeah, like it be somewhere, you know, being realistic. I like to be realistic. I'll be pie in the sky and say, yeah, let it be like the NFL or NBA or something. But that's not gonna happen out the top, out the real.

So if we can get that thing somewhere between 20 and 25%. I like it. Make it 24. And go out and support them. Yeah 24. And go out and support them. Yeah, people. Go out and support them. People. I know y'all listening. And whatever whatever city you in, make sure you go out there. You support you support the young ladies, man. Support these ladies.

Shoot. Goddamn game. Dope as hell. Every time I think about that goddamn experience at the Atlanta Dream game in Atlanta, man, Jesus Christ. Stop playing. Yeah. Hey, wait. Hey, Houston. Houston got a team. Making two million dollars a year. I feel happy. You heard me. Huh? Houston got a team. They had a team to comment. They won the first four NBA titles.

So no more. But I think they aren't they trying to come get another team? No more. But I think they, aren't they trying to come get another team? They gave it to Philly, Cleveland. And Detroit? And Detroit. Cause Detroit had the shock. Detroit won the championship when Cheryl Ford, who was Karl Malone's daughter, she was, they won the title.

Yeah. I don't think Cleveland has ever, who else had a, Miami had a team, Houston had a team, Detroit had a team. I'm trying to think. Who else Oh wow. Okay. I think Portland is going to keep the same name aren't they? Is it? Is it because you said Cleveland Detroit. What's the other one Portland? Philly Philly. Okay.

Yeah, okay. Just Josh Harris, right? Yeah. I'm not saying. Just Josh That way we can have some some some some women making million million dollars. Marcus Smart agreed to a contract buyout with the Wizards and plans to sign a two-year $11 million deal with the Lakers after clearing waivers. The 31 year old who just played 54 combined games over the last two seasons due to injuries bring a strong defensive presence to the Lakers. According to Shams, Luca personally reached out to Smart making it clear he wanted him on the team. Ocho will the defensive, the 2022 defensive player of the year, what does this do for the Lakers? It doesn't do much huh, as good as Marcus Smart is, I don't

think their problem obviously having a defensive presence like him is awesome, but on the offensive end, they still need a big. That's the problem. They need a big. Now, I know I'm not Doris Burke when it comes, or George Sadano when it comes to talking, or Tim Legler when it comes to talking basketball,

but I've been watching long enough to know that you need a goddamn big, when you get to the goddamn playoffs to be able to compete for them specifically. That's what they need. Margaret Smart, great addition, but what are we doing here? Are you sure you're trying to do what's necessary to win?

This season, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe chat. Do y'all see something that I don't see with the Lakers that signing my Marcus Smart as good as what are we getting? The old Marcus Smart or old Marcus Smart? That's a good one. I like that. I like where you went. One I added the other and I left the V off. Right.

You should have a very highly motivated Deandre Aiden because he got a one year deal. Marcus Mark signed a one and a one. So he should be motivated. Deandre Aiden. Portland Trailblazer DeAndre Aiden. Portland Trailblazer DeAndre Aiden? Phoenix Sun, Phoenix Sun, DeAndre Aiden? Yeah. I think that's my Bahamian brethren. If I'm not mistaken. Yeah.

Damn. How tall is Deandre. What? Seven. Seven what? Seven foot. Boy, he's seven foot? Yep.

Okay. Okay, okay, okay. Lakers, Lakers, okay. You got a little, little presence down there. He not as bad as the Ryan. What's the Ryan dude you say you don't like? Who? For the Lakers. The one you say was just tall for nothing. Oh man, you talking about Len. Alex Len. Yeah, he's not, he's not. I thought you said Alex Len was seven foot.

I didn't know sardines reached that high. So Deandre Deandre Aitin is a is levels of better than Len. He's a he's a double double guy. You get your 14 and 10. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Your law of presence.

All right. You 14 to give you double G numbers. He should be highly highly motivated. Right. He sees the money that he give you double G's number. He should be highly, highly motivated. Right. He sees the money that Chet Hongren got. He sees the money that they're paying. Bless you. Excuse me. He sees the money that they just gave Miles Turner.

Huh? Bro, you younger than Miles Turner. Yeah, hey. You go out there and play, you could end up getting you a five year, 170 million dollar deal. Five year, yeah bro. It's not too late?

Man, Deandre Ayton can't be no more than 26, 27. Well, he done been in the league for a little minute now. Deandre Ayton is 26 years old. 26, he done been in the league for a little minute now. Deandre Aitken is 26 years old. He about to turn 25. He turned 27. So he's 27. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. The motivation is getting to that bag, especially if you sign them when you go out there and have a hell of a season this year. Exactly. Exactly.

Okay. Exactly. I got you get out there. Exactly. Okay. Exactly. I got you. You gotta lock in and focus. It ain't any. Ocho. Yeah. We gotta talk about something that you gon' like this.

Uh oh. There's a guy named Preeto Hunter who buys an abandoned storage unit. Hey! Found two of your old, he got two of your old storage units. Ocho, take a look at this. Yeah. Yeah

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Signed. Holy crap. Guys, these are all signatures. By probably the whole team right there. Holy crap. Look at that. He's so hype. Oh, Joe. What? How'd he get that? Holy crap, look at that. He's so hype. Oh Joe! What?

How'd he get that? That's my old storage from 2000, 2000. Is that in Miami or in Cincinnati? Well, that's down in Miami, all the way down on the other end. Long, long, how do you get rid of stuff that you don't want anymore? And that was the best way to do it. Cause I'm not hoarding none of that stuff. That's from like 2004, 2005. I don't wear, I don't dress like that. That's that 20, 20, 20 year old

late, early thirties, Chad. I'm about to be 50. I ain't going nowhere. Donate it! late, early thirties, Chad, I'm about to be 50. I ain't going nowhere nobody. Donate it! Donate who? Do I look like the person that gonna take all that stuff and take it to a different place? But you left Chris Henry Jersey in there. No, that's one that's signed by all my teammates.

My real Chris Henry Jersey, the one that he wore, that sign is here. Can you hear me? I hear you now. Yeah, my Chris Henry Jersey's here. That's a Chris Henry Jersey sign by all my teammates that played with. Hell, I got all them fools on God damn group chat.

So you ain't gonna get it back? I don't want none of that. Here, this is how I live my life, right? Stay with me real quick, y'all stay with me real quick. We have, I live life in two parts. Like a stage play, act one, football, clothes, fashion, all that fun stuff. Unc, them days is long gone, unc.

I feel you. I'm talking about long gone. Step two, act two. New life, new house, new beginnings. Transition from all that old shit and the new stuff. I'm not taking nothing from the past and to act to none of it. So what's the best way to get rid of it?

Man, take be happy. I don't like nobody digging through my stuff, though. It ain't my stuff. No, it ain't no more your stuff no more. I don't want it. That's why I love it. What if they found some what if they found some skid mark draws up in there?

Why would I have skid mark draws? I use dude wipes. Yeah, I use dude wipes. And I got a bedette, a bedette. Did I say that right? A bedette? Close enough. Huh?

Bedette, but okay. Okay, my bad, my bad, my bad. No, no, but on a serious note, it was so much stuff. It's just, it couldn't go with me. Not where I'm trying to go. I can't bring that, no, I can't bring it with me. Okay, I feel you.

Yeah, I can't, I couldn't. I'm glad Young Bull is happy, man. You know, I'm all about giving. I stay giving. I won't give nothing. I ain't got no, I don't know. I ain't got no store unit. I got all my stuff here.

See, I can't, I don't see, I don't see how you do it. I don't see how you do that. I don't see how you do it. I can't, I can't. Is that my grandma house? Is that Atlanta or is here? I can't do it. It's fake.

Listen, here? Where I'm at now? Wait, listen, let me, you know what I'm talking about. When I talk about new beginnings, I don't want nothing from back then going where I'm headed now. Nothing, Nick Daniel. All right, Ocho, it's time for our final segment.

Wait, no, no, no, no, let's stay on a little bit more. I'm feeling good tonight. Okay, you feeling good. So what you wanna talk about? You wanna talk about your locker? I mean, what locker? If you're going to find anything of value, really significant value.

If you're going to find a Rolex, you're going to find a diamond ring. If you're going to find some, you're going to find 20, 20 K and cash. It's storage. Nothing of value is in storage. Everything of value, everything of value. The next question.

Everything of value. You got what I sent you, did I send you something today that somebody found in storage that was valuable? No, what you sent me. Go back and look at your DMs and see what I sent you, what that guy found in storage. Didn't I send it to you?

No, what was it? Oh, that's storage. Go look at your DMs, look at your DMs? That do you know how long that thing is from way from like 2007? What? That storage. Yo, I'm saying you said people don't find nothing to value. I sent you something in your DM, but somebody found something real valuable in storage. Hold on. Let me see. Yeah. Hold on, let me see. Yeah.

Back up. Okay. Oh my goodness. So is there anything of value in there, Ocho? A man finds 7.5 million cash in the 500, no, that ain't. A man just paid $500 for a storage unit sold by auctioneer Dan Dawson, 500. No, that man just paid $500 for a storage unit sold by auctioneer Dan Dawson, only to discover a safe stuff with 7.5

million in cash. After word got back to its original owner, they offered him 1.2 to recover the funds. The buyer accepted walking away with $1,199,500 in profit. I tell you Hey, I tell you, I tell you what, listen, that ain't clean, cause ain't nobody with no clean money gonna have it sitting in storage. Let's start there. Of course there's a reason he gave it back.

Anybody in their right mind ain't giving up no seven million dollars for just 1.2. So you already know they made that call and say, hey, we need that back. That's a whole different ballgame. But people know people find valuable stuff in there all the time. I know I know that ain't what I do, so I know stories now, but people have found stuff, not that kind of cash.

Oh, yeah. But people have found thousands of dollars. They found valuable. I mean, you got you got you got to think you got it. You got stuff. I ain't played football in how long? How many years has been you think? Probably 15 years probably. So that stuff been in there damn near 15 years. I ain't seen it ain't 15 years.

I don't I don't I'm good. You pass out. You don't want anything, anything. Nathaniel. Whatever you want. Everything in this. I don't know why you bought them red shoes. Hey listen.

You playing on clowning somebody with them red shoes on? Hey, I was clean. I had a deal with Louboutin back in the day. So I used to get Louboutins free. If you've been following me on Twitter long enough, there was a time where I gave away Louboutins every week. It was either every Monday or the first week of every month on Twitter.

Had a day, I had all kind of Louboutin. I ain't got, I'm days old, man. I got me a nice pair of Air Force 1s. I got me some open toe sandals and I'm good. Oh, having four, 500 shoes, I ain't, man. I'm a minimalist. Everything in this house is all white. That's it. If it ain't white, it four, 500 shoes. I ain't man, I'm a minimalist. Everything in this house is all white. That's it.

If it ain't white, it ain't coming in. If it ain't white, it ain't right. Well, somebody got some of mine. They, the lady that used to do, the dude by what you call it, that clean for me. I left everything, I left, I say Blanca, her and her friend named Vicky, they used to clean. I say, whatever you want, you can take.

Right. But what you don't take, you gotta go to the trash. She's like, Mr. Shannon, you let me have all this? I say, all the bedroom stuff, all the dinette stuff, whatever you want, you take it. Yeah. All glass, marble, all white custom. Mm hmm. I had a custom white furniture Ocho. I had that furniture

since 1992. Yeah. I paid 30 grand for it in 92. White couch? Yes. You paid what? How much? 30 grand for that white couch. What? In 1992? In 92. Oh, what the hell kind of furniture that was? Custom. The people that made it, they stamped it on the bottom of it. Right.

So she got the sleigh bed, she got the glass marble table. Yeah. She got the big, man, I had a, you know that big diner where we ate that, man, that thing so much. I told her, I said, Blanca, don't you hurt yourself trying to have,

so I said, you need about five or six men that know what the hell to do in the mood, that table. That table, the glass is that thick. Right, right. And the bottom, man, Ocho, I ended up having to get an epidural, man. I tried to lift that table myself and blew my back out. Ah, yeah, nah.

I know y'all in the chat talking about Paws, but man, Ocho, I lifted, Ocho, I lifted like this here. It's something, say, ah. You ain't bend your knees? All I know is like a week later, I was face down getting an epidural. That was the last time I ever tried to move anything. If it ain't hung, no hangers, no shirts, I ain't moving nothing.

I'm paying. I'm gonna pay somebody to come in here. They're gonna fold it up. They're gonna put it nice and neat and they go right on the box, what it is. And then they go say, hey, Mr. Shark, this is such a such, where would you like this? Upstairs.

Downstairs, right there. You see how you did everything yourself? I did everything me. I ain't doing nothing myself, I ain't moving nothing. Oh I'm saying how you had people do the boxes and- Yeah man. Hey young, when I came to this, this all White Castle, I did all this on my own.

I packed the boxes. I wrote everything on there. I got the U-Haul. I put, hey, I drove the, man listen, oh man. I said, man, how long is it going to take? I said, how long is it going to take y'all to get there? I said, you ain't going that far. Right. I said, Mr. Sharp, we can be there in a couple of days. I said, can you can be there in a

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know. No, man. No. I like I said, I had a I had a I don't know the other stuff I had has like some football cards and stuff. Right. In storage but I ain't really ever had anything. I still got my my college shoulder pads. Right. I still got those. They're up under the garage. Yeah. See, I ain't. The bag that it actually came in. You know, coach, they give us that. But I'm very sentimental, Ocho. See, that's the difference between me and you.

Remember I told you not too long ago, I don't have no memorabilia? Yeah. When I am done with the game of football and it passes on and it's no longer, I don't care about that stuff anymore. It's of no value to me. No, I got that. That's the way I've always been. I told a story about how my mom brought us those white blazers me and my brother right white tuxedo

blazers right looking like a John Travolta and Saturday night people. I still got it. I still got the burgundy shirt to go long with it. I still got overalls that I took when I was, they took a picture of me, I was sitting on a cardboard box. I still got it. I got a little jacket that when I was like six, I still got it. Yeah, I'm not like that.

I'm not like that at all. I never had been. I think my grandma was, my mama was, my little brother, I'm not sure, I'm calling my little brother, he's 30 something now. I'm just not like that, huh? Yeah. I just, when the game, when it's gone and it's passing me

by, like my grandma used to tell me when I got in trouble. My grandma held everything. I washed my hands. I'm good, I was at peace. I was at peace, I'm good. Now, if I could find that goddamn jacket I put on, that Hall of Fame jacket that- It might be in there.

No, it's not in there. Cause I've been looking for it for years. I've been looking for it for years since that damn game. When them fans got in and don't want to give it to me. Well, look, the only thing that I'm missing is that my brother got me a Rolex, a two-tone Rolex for my graduation. So if somebody finds it in a pawn shop, it says, congratulations, I'm proud of you, Shannon Big Bro Sterle. If y'all see that out there,

y'all get it to me. I got something for y'all. It's on a Jub a it's on a jubilee bracelet. It's two tone gold down the middle. So yeah, but y'all know it's me. Hey, how many Shannon Stirling you know? You right. You right. But I don't know in the process of moving Ocho. I lost it. And I don't and I everything that my brother's ever given, my sister, like my sister give me silver dollars for washing the dishes.

My brother gave me, well I told you, my brother cut me on my leg and he paid me like $5, not to tell, I still got it. I still got it. I got, I got a pack of Susan B. Anthony dollars, Ocho. Yeah. That her ex gave me back in 1996. I still got it.

That, what you do? You gotta listen, you gotta let me out. Well, you different. You love the sentimental value of things. I just don't. It's funny, I've always been like that. Like once a time or. I just.

That's why I say. Man, if somebody give me something Ocho, I can't. I can't. Man, I'm not like that. That's why it's so easy for me. No, let me take that back. Let me take that back Ocho. Let me take that back.

Let me take that back. I can't. I have. I have. But I still have a lot. I'm talking about a lot of, lot of stuff. Yeah. Hey, you know what? That's why I'm, that's why it's so easy for me to detach. You see, you see? You see how not only can I treat with other people, everybody see, oh my God, he found your storage unit. It's so many valuables. Shit ain't valuable to me. It's not valuable to me. It's not valuable to me anymore.

So the same way I can detach from that or stuff that people feel is valuable, in the same way I detach from people that are closest to me. That wrong you okay. Hey, I'm talking about I would detach quick and don't even look back. Oh that's okay good I'm gone I'm out. Clean easy. So if you think listen if I if I would leave you and don't care you think I'm for the shoes. I definitely need the possessions. Some shoes and clothes and then, I feel you. I remember a beat man, I don't care man.

I can buy that shit. Next, and keep it moving. All right, time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Damn time went by fast. See what happened when we having a good time good conversation It must be what you call it must be football season around the corner Meek doc KD07 say oh do you think you guys would have three-peated if you won the Super Bowl in 96 no

Yeah, I mean it takes it takes a toll on you Injury start to pile up because you're playing I mean, it takes a toll on you. Injuries start to pile up because you're playing. I mean, Ocho, you know back then, you know, it wasn't like it is now. It wasn't no protection afforded to players. It wasn't no protection afforded to the receivers and the tight end and the quarterbacks. You could blind side block somebody.

It would just take too much out of you. I'm not going, oh yeah, we the three p-ed it. There's a reason why nobody's ever done it. Think about it. They been playing football, Super Bowl since 60, what, 66? Yeah, it's hard. Nobody's ever done it. Hard.

Got closed. Yeah. Chiefs. So no. Patriots too? No, the Patriots didn't get back to the Super Bowl. Oh, wait, they didn't, they didn't. Okay, you're right.

They sure did. They sure did. That's right. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy said, Hey fam, you talked about Ronnie Coleman since he's been sick wishing him all the best at a speedy recovery. Yes.

I'm glad he told a story. He had an infection. He ended up getting sepsis and his body started to shut down on him. Had he not been as resilient as he is as strong as he is, because when you get sepsis, you know, your body starts fighting against itself. So it starts a start shutting down things, shut down your lungs and shut down your kidneys, shut down your liver, shut down your heart.

And he happened to have one of his kids, daughter's there with him and they called 911, they were able to get him in. Had he been by himself, we're not able to have this story. We're not having this conversation about Ronnie being here. But yeah, Ronnie, we wish you the absolute best. Yes sir, yes sir. Great dude. I've been knowing Ronnie long, long before

he became Mr. Olympia. Mm-hmm. And I can honestly say this about him. He, you know, a lot of times you hear people say, well, he ain't changed a bit. Ocho, he is the exact same. Yes, sir. The way he was after he won the Mr. Olympia

and became the biggest bodybuilder in the world, The way he was after he won the Mr. Olympian and became the biggest bodybuilder in the world, he was exactly like that before he became Mr. Olympian. He was humble, he talked, stopped talking to everybody. He's outstanding. I'm glad we had an opportunity to sit down and do that piece with him last year. I've always wanted, did one with Phil.

Jay Cutler next on my list. But Ronnie has been the same. And you know he's had a tough time of it. He has no regrets. Anybody, and that's just not for sure. If you ask him about regret, the only regret he told me he had, he said, Shannon, I hate I didn't squat

that 800 pounds five times. All them back surgeries, he got metal rods. I mean, hey, he held together with spit, duct tape and electric tape. And the only regret he has, Ocho, he's that man. I should have squatted that 800 pounds five times. 800? 800. He started out as a power lifter. Right. I should have squatted at 800 pounds five times. 800? 800. He started out as a power lifter.

Right. So he had very, very dense muscles. If that's why you see the back, you see his hamstrings, his glutes. If you see that feathering, that's what they call when you shred it like that, they call it feathering. Look like lady fingers or look like feathers

through his, his his his chain muscles, hamstrings, glutes, all that. But he said that's the only regret I have. I didn't squat that 800 pounds five times. That's crazy, but that's strong, man. Damn. Jatorian Fox 2187. Jamar got a face. Alexander Ramsey Ward two times a year.

He like that now. I mean, hold on. He ain't gonna shy away from, he's not gonna shy away from the the competition. What's that? What's that supposed to mean? You mean they got to face him? You structured the sentence the wrong way.

Yeah, they got to face him. Get it right now. He'll chase that dude. Get it right now. He him, chase that dude. He'll be okay. Leon Bayes you said, Hey, uh, oh, Joe, do you think if Lamar has another early playoff exit in 2025, that it's time to have a real conversation in Baltimore?

Lamar has no more excuses. They have a loaded roster and he's MVP. Well, they've always had a loaded roster. What conversation do they have? Yeah, they have. No, they're looking to do a contract extension. I wouldn't be surprised if Lamar Jackson at some point in time become the highest paid player

in the NFL. Yeah, I'm curious. He jumps over, he pole vaults over up in Buffalo. Yeah, absolutely. John. I mean, to have a conversation about what? You could have a conversation. The conversation is Lamar hadn't gotten it done.

But if you're talking about having a conversation about Lamar moving on, man, believe I'm gonna hang the phone up on you and close the door on your face. Hell no. I don't think people understand when people say stuff like that, I don't think they understand how difficult it is to find a quarterback, especially a quarterback when in conversation is top three in NFL and everybody else struggling at that position.

Lamar 27, 28? Lamar can't be no more than 27, 28? Man, please. He's 28. Like I said, yes, we can have a conversation and we will. If they don't get to him winning the Super Bowl this year, we'll have a conversation and we will. If they don't get to win the SUBO this year, we'll have a conversation that Lamar Jackson didn't get it done. The Baltimore Ravens didn't get it done. But if we're talking about any other type of conversation,

moving on from Lamar Jackson, hell no. I'm gonna give Lamar Jackson every opportunity until I don't feel that we can feel the team around him because his salary has gotten so astronomical. Right. But no, hell no. Letting Lamar go? He one of the three best quarterbacks in the NFL.

Are you talking about letting him go because he ain't got to the Super Bowl? And he might not, but I ain't letting him go. We six, seven years away from that. I'm not. But I ain't letting John, that's not even in their mind. He's about to be the highest player. What did Josh get? He about to get 260, 70 million fully guaranteed. Nah, uh-uh. Mar ain't going no damn where. I hope he like Baltimore because he ain't going nowhere no time soon.

Nope. Tay-Tay to Way-V. Sup, oh, oh, Joe. What do the Ravens have to do to get over the hump this season? Don't turn the ball over in the playoffs. That's it. Simple as that.

I don't need Lamar to have one of those games where he throw for 300, he rush 400. I just need him to be Lamar Jackson. I don't need Superman Lamar. I don't need the perfect quarterback rating Lamar. I don't need the guy that, that the human joystick that he's running and hitting the spin. Lamar just take care of the football.

That's it. Simple as that. You have the players around you at the running back position, offensive line, tight ends, wide receivers, and you have a defense.

They're good enough. Just don't turn it over. That's all're good enough. Just don't turn it over. That's all they gotta do, just don't turn it over. I don't, he's that good. He's good. He's gotten better every year. Am I surprised that he's, the only thing that surprises me

is how well he's thrown the ball. Made it through for 41 touchdowns. 41. If somebody would have told me, Shani, you know it and within six, seven years Lamar Jackson go throw for 40 touchdowns, I don't believe it. Based on the style of play coming. Do I believe he could be a starting quarterback in the NFL and they could win a lot of games? Yes. Because I say no, no, no, no, no. I saw what he did. I saw what he did at Louisville. Louisville, yeah. The guy threw for 35, threw for 35 hundred yards,

rushed for 1500 yards, yeah. No, no, no, he can play in the NFL. He can play. But 41 touchdowns, Ocho? I didn't see that. That's a lot. Nobody saw that. Anybody tell you they saw that, they lying,

because if they would have saw that, then they took it with a number one overall pick. Bingo. If you saw that Lamar Jackson was going gonna be a two-time league MVP finished second or third time and you say well he's gonna throw one year he's gonna throw 40 half 36 touchdowns with six picks and then he's gonna come back and throw another 41 touchdowns with four picks and guess what by the way, he's gonna rush for 1,200

You'd have taken it with a number one overall pick. If I'm not mistaken, Baker was the number one overall pick that year and Josh Allen was number seven. You'd have taken, if somebody would have told you, Lamar Jackson was gonna be what he became, you'd have taken number one overall. Absolutely. You don't have the Ravens trade back into the first round

to take him at 32, if you believe he's gonna, everybody say, oh, I knew that. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. Because what he's gonna everybody say oh I knew that no you didn't no you didn't because what he's doing nobody no quarterback has ever done that before I mean a quarterback that could rush for 1200 yards in the season and throw for 40 touchdowns in a season nah hold on man don't forget he only threw four interceptions man huh he only threw four interceptions now. He only threw four interceptions. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah. Remember the year he won the MVP on Joe. He threw 36 touchdowns. The first touchdown he was unanimous. He threw 36 and six. That's the Aaron Rodgers and his prime type numbers too. And he's gonna give you 700 to a thousand yards rushing. Averaging eight, nine yards a clip.

That's crazy. Talk about who was that answer, we need to have a conversation. Shit, about what? Prime, oh, Jalen Rea, Ivey said Prime Adrian Peterson or Prime LaDainian Tomlinson. Ooh. Wow. Now that's a good one. That is a great one. That's a good one that is a great one that's a good one again

it's all it's all on preference what you like it's all on preference that's what it come down i wasn't in the league with ap played i got a chance to see i got a chance to see lt lt hats in three seasonsT. has 69 touchdowns. I saw L.T. rush for 1600 yards. Check this out. I saw L.T. rush for 1600 yards, have 100 catches and not make the Pro Bowl. It's crazy.

Y'all know LT had 31 touchdowns in the season, right? Yeah, I remember that year. That's the year we had. Y'all do realize that? Yeah. People don't, see, I don't think people realize how good LT was. Y'all don't realize how good, y'all don't realize how good LaDani and Tomlinson was.

I do, cause I got a chance to see him up close and personal. You gotta do your homework. I saw him put 200 plus yards, rush the yards on us and catch 10 passes against us. I saw that with my own two eyes. AP. Different. Ooh, Lord.

Damn, this not easy one. Oh Lord. Damn. This is not easy. All day. There are two different players. completely. It's an old school. Eye back. Work horse running back. But LT, man. How many times does LT got like 150 something?

I mean LT got, I mean. LT catch it. LT. Yes. Hey listen. Cause Jerry got, Jerry got 208 and then I think it's Emmett

and then it might be like LT or is it Randy? Cause I think Randy got 156, Tio got 153. Where is LT? LT got 145 total touchdowns, right? Jesus Christ. I don't I don't I want to see the guy that

catches Jerry. That's what I want to see. I hope I'm allowed to see the guy that gets 209 touchdowns. Hey, that's what I want to see. Oh, that's going to be I don't know what we're gonna be. So no, LaDani and Thomas got 162 total touchdowns, Ocho. That's third behind Emmett. Because Emmett, I think Emmett is next, but Jerry got 208.

Jerry got 197 receiving touchdowns. Do y'all know how many touchdowns that is? Oh, that's crazy. Jerry got what, 202 or 208? touchdowns. Do y'all know how 207? Yeah, 207, okay. We gotta pick Ocho. Prime Adrian Peterson or A.O.T. I think I'm gonna take A.O.T. I'm gonna go all day then. And listen, that's one of those questions. Like you really can't go wrong, regardless of who you pick.

Again, it all comes down to preference. I like, I personally like the fear that all day, Agent Peterson puts in defenses. Oh yeah. I personally like the fear and you can see it. Nobody they don't want to come up and tackle. Man. Percy liked the fear and you could see it. Nobody, they didn't want to come up and tackle. Man. Man, did you know how many times I done saw that man

put his hand behind his head and flip the ball to the referee. LT? That was a celebration right there. That was a celebration. Yeah, man, I done saw that so many times. How many times he did that? As a matter of fact, he broke the record against the

Broncos. Mm hmm. Cuz I think Priest has said it. Priest Holmes has set the record with 28 LT win got 31. Do y'all know how many touchdowns 31 touchdowns is in a season? Yeah. Do y'all have any idea for a running back? Hold on and that

was in the sixteen game season if I'm not mistaken, right? 16. That's crazy. You want to see, you want to see Ocho? Titus, what's up, boy? Bro, all you did was jump up. What they do twin, he tired, huh? He tired, I gotta take him on, take him for a jog with me. See if he can, see if he can run.

Why you in the bed? It's way past your bedtime buddy. Quentin Mowgli or Mobli? How they say it? Cause you know where I grew up at, they call it Mobli. But I guess if you're from the North, they say Mowgli. But anyway, Uncle Nocho, did y'all see one hand flag football catch

by Bryson Wright? Listen, I even said, I even said, but that's probably the greatest catch I had seen. And that was even including NFL catches. Then somebody said, it's flag football. They didn't even have pads on. Well, hell, when we practiced during the week, they don't have pads on either in the NFL.

The flag doesn't change the game, it's still football. It's still a great catch. That's, that was great. Unc, the man, he went this way. Yeah. He went the, man, stop playing, man. For one, you're losing vision. You lose, Unc, you know how difficult.

You can't explain people that doesn't catch balls for a living how difficult something you have to do That was nice That was nice. That's up there with Brandon Lloyd. That's up there with Brandon Lloyd. That's up there with what what what old Dale OBJ's catch man, but he said They fight they fight get him teddy bear Oh, they fight. They fight. Get him Teddy Bear. Get him Teddy Bear. I ain't no he was up for this. Yeah. Tied. Lay down.

Caleb said, hey, are you taking Miami Bron, Cleveland Bron, Lakers Bron, and when he retires, will it impact the league? The league's gonna go on. Did the league stop with Jordan? Stop Magic Bird. The game always goes on. Will

look, the league's gonna be in great shape. Lebron has been a great ambassador, but it happens great players retire Tom Brady retired Peyton Manning retired Joe Montana retired Emmett Smith John Elway Marino JJ watt Aaron Donald Lawrence Taylor Joe green He's fine Which Cleveland Brown first Cleveland Bron or second Cleveland Bron? Many people believe Miami Bron was the apex of his powers.

He was, and it's hard to say, cause if you go back and look at it, he pretty much averaged the same thing. It'd be somewhere between 25 and 27 points a night. He could do it all. Probably Miami Braun. Probably Miami Braun. Thanos. Thanos.

Ocho. Yo. CJ1998 say what's up Ocho. Who's your favorite superhero and why? Also, I've created my own comic. Is there a way I could send it to you? Superhero. What's your favorite superhero? Man, I got a problem. I don't watch Marvel or- DC Comics? Nah, man.

I never, unfortunately, I'm not into it. I only know who, I know the name Thanos, not because of your dog, but because when that movie came out, Infinity something, it dominated my timeline. Then I knew about the stones and I knew about Thanos snapping his finger

and something, and that's pretty much it. But I don't, yeah. That's unfortunate. Yeah. Uh DM Ash. Send it to Ash. Ash gets all my mail. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We really appreciate you tuning in stopping by. Bados!

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