Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Fans yelling Pay Micah at Cowboys training Camp! | Nightcap

Episode Date: July 28, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to fans shouting Pay Micah at the Dallas Cowboys training camp, Chargers sign LT Rashawn Slater to a four year contract, and Jim Harbaugh talks about Justin Herbert’s biggest weakness & much more!   0:00 - Darius Slay says AJ Brown is the best WR in the NFL12:40 - Fans shouting Pay Micah at Cowboys Training Camp27:20- Bucs will not let Watson play until he reaches weight goal33:00 - Chargers sign Slater to 4yr $114m contract42:27 - Travis Hunter splitting reps on both sides of the ball51:55 - Steph Curry on the shot that changed his life1:01:39- Q & Ayyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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with less than ideal access? Should you, that's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand. Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Darius Slay says AJ Brown is the best receiver in the NFL. He went on Richard Sherman's podcast to explain why. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Let me hear that, let me hear that.

Everybody on that list is from top four. It's mostly schemed open for me. As of this is a DB. I done seen Chase line up in the backfield, I seen Justin line up in the backfield, I seen Tyreek be getting the three point stands, by the damn tackle, go hard and be motion across that. All I see is AJ doing is line up at Higgs. Come see about me.

If you wanna see about me, I'm over here, you know where I'm at. I'm not finna go in this backfield. I'm not motion out of there and getting there and get isolated on the linebacker, none of that. I'm coming to see your best dude to make your best dude look like that's your worst dude. He don't run from no smoke. So people having him at five and then people want to talk about the quarterback play.

All these guys got like real deal, like professional,, pro-pro type of quarterbacks. They always say, Hurts this and Hurts that. Out of all of them, when it come down to his passing, but like I say, Hurts throw the best deep ball. And guess what AJ Brown most likely the best at? Catching that deep ball. I like that. I like what he said. I like what he said. We don't have to- But I disagree with it. In which part? Talk to me. Let me let you go first. Chase ain't no scheme guy.

No. Justin Jefferson ain't no scheme guy. Mm-hmm. Mm you go first. Chase ain't no scheme guy. No. Justin Jefferson ain't no scheme guy. Tyreke ain't no scheme guy. Absolutely not. Because their guy, because their OCs are creative. Bingo. I'm glad you said it. I'm glad you said it. It ain't my fault that that that AJ doesn't have a creative OC. But he doesn't have to. He doesn't have to. You don't get to win the Triple Crown and be a Scheme. You don't have 1800 receiving yards in Scheme.

You that guy. Yeah. You that guy. Yeah. And when you that guy, you that guy. Yeah, I disagree. You're that guy. Yeah, I disagree.

And I'm not saying that AJ isn't a good, great receiver, however you want to categorize him. But I disagree with Slay on that part, that Chase and Jeddah and Reek are not. They're not. I disagree as well. What Darius has to understand is when you have those players that are in your top five at the receiver position,

AJ Brown is in a position where they have so many other weapons where you don't even have to be creative over there because you have a skilled player in AJ Brown that is no different than having a Marvin Harrison. Chad, listen to me closely. I'm not saying AJ Brown is Marvin Harrison. When Marvin Harrison lined up, what side he was going to be on? He's on the right. He ain't going nowhere. AJ Brown just happened to have that same skill set, that same dog in him, and that DNA in him, where he

knows he can line up and he can get out. I call it getting out the mud. You call the play, the officer courtier don't got to worry about you. I just know Jalen Hurst could be blindfolded, call the play, slant, route, curl out, whatever it may be. And he knows exactly where AJ Brown will be at and he can get it out the mud. When it comes to Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase

and some of these other receivers, sometimes you have to get creative in order to get them the ball. Why? Because they're going to roll covers to them every time if you keep them in the same place every time. You can't do that over there in Philly because you've got that gangster in the back in the backfield where you got to drop that fucking safety down in the box. Right. But Justin Jefferson, you can line him up on the left side or the right side and say,

we need you to get open the rest of the game. You can do it tomorrow. You like that too. Yeah, my job as the OC Ocho is to not let your job be easy. Cause if I just line him up there, I'm making your job easy. Roll the coverage. Find out where he is. And just roll to him, that's it, period.

I'm gonna make you find my guy. But there are guys you can scheme and you still can't get them open. Chase him, jettle him. That's why on most everybody's list, when you see receivers come out, they're one two. Same ones. He's one two.

And even though Tariq had a bad year, and look, and I'm not saying, cause I like AJ, AJ is a big physical receiver. He's gonna catch the ball in traffic. He's tremendous run after the catch. He can catch the deep ball. And sometimes he gets frustrated because he's not involved as soon as he thinks he should be,

or as much as he should be. And he has lapses sometimes, but he's phenomenal. But that's why I disagree with Slake. I get what he's saying. He's like, look, the guy just lines up on one side and he says, okay, come see me. But see, Ocho, with that being said, even if Chase is not lined up on the same side, he still say, you still got to come see me.

Whether I'm in the slot, whether I'm on the right, whether I'm on the left, you still got to deal with me. Yeah. And there are a few players like that too, huh? There are a few players if we were just playing basic football and saying, okay, we're breaking the huddle, I formation and you just line up on the same side every single time and the defense knows exactly who you're going to be. There are a few players, maybe eight or seven of them that can say, you know what?

I'm leaving you on that island and you just going to have to get open. That can actually do it. And it makes the office, the coordinating job easy when you have those types of players. It ain't that many of them at receiver. Everyone else, you have to condense splits, you have to put them in motion. You have to do all these things to get them open.

Everybody can't get out there and just get out, get it out, get it out the muscle. It ain't. Right. It's very, very difficult. It is But y'all doing them a disservice because if everybody knows where he is look here They ran stunts with LT they ran stunts with Reggie Bruce that don't mean they couldn't do it

But I'm not trying to just say let's try to make the job easier Yeah, so I look like I said I get what Slay is trying to say. He's like, look, just imagine if they moved him around. Just imagine, you know, instead of just lining up as the X, he lined up, you know, they put him in the slot and they did different things with him. They stacked him so forth and so on. Okay, fine. But Jamar Chase is not a scheme receiver.

Neither is Jetta. neither is Tyreek. Now I don't know the other guys that were in the top. I think they had AJ, so I don't know if it was Puka or if it was Nico Kopp, yes, CD Lam. Well, CD is mainly plays in the slot. He can go outside, but he's mainly in the slot. The funny thing about those top five you just named is you could put, you could switch the team.

You could put AJ in Cincinnati. You could put Chase in Philly. I can't hear you, you hear me? I hear you. Oh, there you go. You back, you back. I'm blurry, You can see me? No, I'm looking at me. Did my light?

Yeah. Yeah, okay. Now, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I say all those players we talk about, like they interchangeable. You can put them on any team and they're going to be productive. Yeah. They're going to be productive no matter where you're at.

You can put Tyreek in Philly, Tyreek in Miami, Tyreek in Cincinnati, Tyreek in Dallas, or just put in any, they all gonna be able to get open, all of them. Now, once you get out that top seven or eight or 10, now we need to look. Not even a change, not look. I think the thing is that Chase was one,

J.J., Jetta was two, Reek was three, CD was four, A.J. was five. Armand Ross, St. Brown, Malik Neighbors. Boys nasty, but the boys nasty, boy. Yeah, I think Nico Collins cracked the top 10. Nasty. Mike Evans, oh no, Garrett. Yeah, Nico was eight, Mike Evans and Garrett Wilson. Garrett Wilson is another one.

Get you out the muscle. Can line up and get, it's so funny, there's only a few of them. As many receivers as there are in the NFL, it's only a few. I'm leaving you out here. I call it receivers that the offensive coordinator don't have to worry about. You make my job easy, because I can do everything, I can do more with my offense,

because I know you can take care of your business. I ain't got to worry about you. Yeah, I think the thing is that when you leave a receiver in one position, now you let them set their defense and they can like, okay, we're gonna roll the coverage here. No, fine me, catch me if you can. Fine, I'm playing high and Z.

I'm in the slot, I might motion out of the backfield, I might mount up at Z, I might line up at X, ain't no telling, hey, the slot, the wing, whatever. You know what, a good point too, what Darius Slade just said, now you get a better understanding of why AJ was frustrated last year because there was no creativity. There was no creativity.

You leave me on one side and allow them to deep and to dictate what we want to do. Why? Because they allowed Jayler Hurst to play into the confines of that offense and not do anything extra outside of that. Where if they gonna let you catch the ball, it got to be one-on-one.

Yeah. And yeah, I knew why, everybody knew why. And they tried to dress it up. Jalen Hurst was throwing for 120 yards. Yeah. You're not gonna win the championship with that. And he got better and better. And you see, go look at his playoff numbers. They got better and better. And you see, go look at his playoff numbers.

They got better and better. And in the Super Bowl, he was sensational. Every time he got one-on-one, he made them play for every, he made them play for every time they gave him one-on-one, he made them pay. Because Spags, he was not going to let Saquon beat him. He neutralized Saquon beat him. He neutralized Saquon but in the process of that he left his corners on an island. Yeah, yeah. You saw what happened. And matter of fact, I'm gonna just throw this out

there too. My honorable mentions as well, they've given you a small symbol size on what they can do when Tank Dale comes back and he's healthy. Yeah, he ain't come back this year. I don't think he come back this year. 26. My young bull over there in Baltimore, Zay Flowers. Zay Flowers. That's another one.

Brian Thomas Jr. should have been on the Oliver Mitchell list. Brian Thomas Jr. Another one. We say him, Malik Neighbors, right? Yeah, well he on the list. Oh yeah, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, he only lists. Oh yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. He number seven.

Yeah. I don't have all the NFL teams in front of me. I'm just going off the top of my head based on, on skillset. I mean, you still got DK. You got George Pickens. Oh, you got Higgins. Oh T. Yeah. Yeah. You got Judy.

Oh, we, you know, Judy belong in that conversation. So, yeah. Oh, we know Judy belong in that conversation. So, yeah. Let's see. Calvin. You got Lad McConkey. Lad. I mean, if you think about the only,

really, I mean, Armand Ra and C.D. were really the only slots. Right, see, that's what I don't like. The number of people that belong in the conversation, some people get left out that are just as consistent as Amon Rossaint Brown or C.D. Lamb. Lamb of Conkey, stay open. I think he'll be having a big year. They flowers, he stay open in that slot. I mean, but that's another conversation for another day. Yeah. I mean, look, when you have a top 10, obviously you got to leave somebody out because

you only got 10 slots. They're like, give me 10 best rappers. Well, somebody going to get left out because there are a thousand rappers past and present. You're going to give me your 10 best R&B singers. Well, you're going to leave somebody out. Okay. Give me your 50 best R&B singers. Well, you gonna leave somebody out. Okay, give me your 50 best women R&B singers. Somebody's gonna get left out. You only got 10 slots. So, and you have to be okay, cause like man, you know, bro, it is what it is. And people gotta understand that that doesn't mean,

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I'm Jake Hofer and this is Back 40, a limited series show on wire to hunt, part of Meat Eaters podcast network. Each episode I'll be asking eight wide tail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?

Should you, that's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand. Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Oh Joe, during Cowboys training camp, fans have been shouting at Jerry and Steven Jones, pay Micah, pay Micah. Steven spoke to reporters about it, said it doesn't change anything. We want to pay Micah, pay Micah. Steven spoke to reporters about it,

said it doesn't change anything. We want to pay Micah too. He's gotta want to be paid. Don't do that, don't do that. Jerry also keeps calling Micah, Michael Parsons. What you mean? He wanna get paid, but he don't want y'all to pay him what y'all wanna pay him. Because see, y don't want y'all to pay what y'all want to pay him because he y'all think

y'all will pay him at a discount. And he already told you that it ain't going to happen. The discount was two years ago. It ain't now because that was before you let Max Crosby reset the market. That was before you let Danelle Hunter reset the market. That was before you let Miles Garrett reset the market. And that you let TJ Watt reset it again. That was before all of that.

Now, I don't know what y'all talking. We're at 42 and a half. Hey, matter of fact, we- I don't know what you talking. I wanna get paid. Right, and matter of fact, since you keep talking trash in the media, in the news, and you're not calling me by my right name,

make it 43 for good measure. Yeah, you know what? My mama named me Micah. Call me Micah. You call me Micah too many times. 44. And as a matter of fact, since Stephen came out and said, oh, Michael gotta wanna be paid 45, lying on me.

He lied on me. That man wanna be paid, but he ain't gonna let y'all pay what y'all wanna pay. Y'all always wait till the last minute. Oh, Joe. I have look, here's the thing. I promise you, it is cheaper to get your car service than it is

to get it repaired. Listen to what I'm saying. Alright, go ahead. It's Sunday. Come on now. Come on, pastor. Bring that. It's easy to get your car service than it is to get it that's a good one. Bring that the Did you think the prices was coming down on Michael Parsons the guys he won defensive rookie of the year He's a three-time first team all-pro now He didn't make I don't think he made all pro last your first team But he's a pro he's been to the Pro Bowl every single year

The price is only going up Because listen, I got to get that penny packer. That was a guy was a bar that penny packer that was that was a bar you gave me a bar hey bring hey bring that bring that i gotta use that in my next argument hey bring me that line one more time it's easy to get your car service that it is repaired yeah i don't know i don't know the context and when i'm gonna be able to use it but i'm gonna use that oh you may be able to use it, but I'm gonna use that. Oh, you'll be able to use it. And that's the thing. That man's been asking for a contract. But what does Jerry like to do? Wait until the umpteenth hour.

He waits until the umpteenth hour and then wonder why Dak cracked him over his head. Both times. Dak hit him over his head both times. Dak went 60, I mean 40, then he went to 60. Dak says, since y'all making me wait, get what it gonna cost you next time. Sidney.

Damn. Cause clearly, y'all, they've been telling people for the longest, we like Cooper Rush, we like Cooper Rush, really? Y'all like Cooper Rush, huh? Y'all shoulda put him in. Just play games if you want to. Y'all should, if y'all like Cooper Rush, y'all. Y'all shoulda put him in. Play games if you want to. Y'all should, if y'all like Cooper,

if you like Cooper Rush as much as you say you did, you would have never gave Dak 60 million. They just talking on. You understand who the type of caliber quarterback that can carry your team, or at least give you a chance to win. And Dak knew from the moment that Cooper Rush was a free agent and not one person bit, that's a y'all stuck like Chuck.

Well, they know, you know, the eye and the sky don't lie. All 31 other teams, they get to see film too. They get to see film too. They do. You can say, they do you listen as, as owners and the GM and managers, you the and go into the draft and you'll find a, you'll get a Russell Wilson in the third round. You'll get a Dak Prescott in the fourth round. You're never gonna get another Tom Brady in the sixth round. So stop looking. Stop looking.

That was the Hope Diamond. You found the Hope Diamond. Unicorn. Yeah, so stop looking. But you do, sometimes you'll be able to find your really good quarterback that's not a first round draft pick or not a high draft pick.

But without that guy in today's game and the way the game is set up today, the way they've handicapped the defense and why they've propped up the offense, without that guy you ain't winning. No. You're not, you're just winning. No. You're not. You're just not.

You can't play defense good enough. Not today. To overcome inadequate quarterback play. Correct in today's game. Absolutely not. Listen, it can work. It can work during our era. It worked in our era.

You play defense and have a decent quarterback. That doesn't. Decent quarterback, nice running game. No disrespect. the disrespect. But he was Rex Grossman going against Peyton Manning. Come on man, but that defense was unbelievable that year. And the thing what happened, it started raining. But if you go back and look, the Colts almost ran for 200 yards. Joseph Adai, right? Joseph Adai? Yeah, it was Joseph Adai and the,

what was the other guy's name? I forget his name, Ocho. But they have a two-headed monster. That was, that was, that was the difference in the game. But in today's game, the way they played today, the way the rules are set up today. You have a quarter. Nah, you got to.

You got to. You got to. And I don't know what Jerry's waiting on. Maybe he thinks the price is gonna, you know, the bottom is gonna drop out of this. It ain't. You mess around and let him have 20 sacks, what you gonna do?

And now he gonna hit you over the head for 50 billion. How about, what if he just plays it out and goes somewhere else? Well, see, again, that's where the NFLPA should have come in. Cause you got two franchise tags. Damn. So there, yeah.

Now you see, there you go. Prime example of why I should be appointed the director of the NFLPA. Cause that's one of the things I'm getting out. Franchise tag, okay, they got to go. Guarantee contracts, let's implement guarantee contracts. Let's talk about that. I want no franchise tag.

I want health benefits. I want lifetime health benefits. Yeah, come on now. Come on now. You think, man, listen, I might joke and laugh, but when it come to business, and I put a suit and tie on this, it's a whole different ball game.

Well, they definitely need somebody that shrewd understands the aspect of it, knowing that what's headed down the track in the next couple years. And then you know, you're reading all this stuff about there might be some criminality involved with this. It's just not a good look for the NFLPA. Now you kind of understand kind of what been it's been lacking proper representation for lack of a better for lack of a better word. Oh, Joe. It's just a hopefully I hope because it

look you and I don't benefit from it anything any any no, not at all. But I just want the I want the players that's now and the ones that's gonna be coming in I want them to get the maximum bang for the buck. And there's only one person that can do that for him. You hear me? There's only one person that would not only represent the players, but will represent the NFL PA. That's me. I'm going to put my name in the hat. Don't worry about that.

You going to put your name in the hat? I'm going to put my name in the hat. Most definitely. Most definitely. I mean who better? Who better? Come on now. I don't know Ocho.

You ain't been keeping up on things. I'm keeping up. I do my homework now. Don't let a few laughs and little jokes get you in trouble. I'm keeping up. I'm keeping up. I'm keeping up. I'm keeping up.

I'm keeping up. I'm keeping up. I'm keeping up. I'm, you ain't been keeping up on things. I'm keeping up. I do my homework now. Don't let a few laughs and little jokes throw you off your game. I'm hip. My eyes can see. My ears can hear. My nose.

I can smell. Yeah. I want Michael to get paid now. He gonna get paid. I don't like the fact that they're allowing all these days to go by and he's not practicing and when he does get paid he's going from zero to a hundred. I don't like that. Yeah, hopefully it doesn't happen. You know, knock on wood, you don't have any, because you know what normally happens, soft tissue. Yes, because the body, the body has to get used to the pushing, the pulling, the tugging, the ripping, the just, oh man, makes no sense.

It doesn't, it doesn't, because I mean, if I'm Mike, I'm thinking like, bro, what do I have to do? Man, I've done everything right. All pro. I've been to the Pro Bowl every year. I've had double digit sacks every year. I've done everything that you've asked me to be. I've been a model citizen. As far as we know, he hadn't run a foul, hadn't been any trouble off the field.

I've done everything that you've asked. I've been a model citizen. I've been a great representation for this ball club. And now it's my turn. It is my turn. Dak had his turn, Seedy had his turn, Trayvon Diggs had his turn,

Steel had his turn. Now it's my turn. At some point in time, Jerry, you gotta be ahead of the curve. You always fall behind the curve and that's why you gotta pay so much. You fall behind the curve. You always fall behind the curve and that's why you got to pay so much. You fall behind the curve. You either, Ocho, you either in, you either ahead of the curve or you're in the curve because if you fall behind it you behind. Now you got to pay extra catch up.

This is a problem. When someone doesn't see anything wrong with the way they do things, there's no reason to change. there's no reason to change. There's no reason to change. If I did it to everybody else, what makes Micah any different? I did it to Zach. I did it to C.D. Lamb. I did it to others in the past, long before these players were even born. I've been doing it my way for a very long time. I'm not... Now, for what? Because winning is not my ultimate goal. It's making a profit and continuing to remain the most profitable franchise. Yeah, I mean, but I mean, look, you let one of your greatest defensive players go for nothing. The markers where? Because you thought it was done. All he did was go to Denver, help

to win the Super Bowl. Yeah. And play and play at an all pro level until he was done. So clearly. You doing something right, huh? Yeah. Yeah, I just, like I said, you know, it's tough. But I mean, you miss calling the guy's name. He's just been there five years. That's all. He's doing that on purpose, he's just been there five years. That's all.

He's doing that on purpose, huh? I don't think he's doing it on purpose. Man, Jerry, oh. He ain't that old not to know his star player's name on defense. Man, you're not the most people be calling. Man, my girl may never call me by my real name. My granddaddy gave my brother the name Spanky

because he couldn't say Sterling. So he gave him a name he couldn't remember, Spanky. No, I mean, like I said, maybe it's, I mean, Micah, Michael, it's never been Michael. It's been Micah. Everybody knows the man's like Micah. What if Micah is short for Michael

and we didn't even know that? I think his name is Micah. Okay, okay, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just. And nope, no. Now, normally, Mike is short for Micah. Right. Not Micah. Right.

But hey, maybe it is, let's let, you know what, don't you, we got Google maybe. Yeah, you might. I mean, he ain't mentioned, I ain't never heard him say it. Yeah, we might want to fact check that, cause nobody knew Chad was short for Chadwick. Micah Aaron Parsons. Hey, his middle name Aaron?

Cause what I just said, yes. Listen, his mama named him Aaron. I'm calling him Aaron from now on. And he just turned 26 years of age, in May. Okay. So, yeah, I don't know what that's about. Ocho, the Buccaneers will not allow undrafted free agent D. Lyman Desmond Watson

to practice until he gets in better shape and reaches an undisclosed weight goal. Watson weighed 464 pounds at his pro day earlier this off season and has lost nearly 30 pounds since joining the team but he needs to lose more. That's a good thing especially in that Florida heat. I understand it. Yeah I understand. They're like you ain't fitting to kill over on us. But also, he played right in Gainesville, right down the street. He ain't played that far away.

So I'm sure he's used to the heat. But I think him losing. He ain't used to running like this. Oh, yeah. It's different. It's different. I think he or they understand that he will be able to perform better at his position

at a smaller weight and not allow him to get out there and practice until he sees fit, until they see fit, him being ready. I have a question. He's 400 pounds right now. How much you think Vita Veya weigh? No, he ain't 400 pounds. He's 434 right now. Oh, shit. When he started there, he was almost 500 when I think he, when he got to Florida. He weighed 464 at his pro day. I think he's 434 currently. I can see them wanting him somewhere between four and 415.

What'd you think Gilbert Brown weighed when he played? Probably 380. But this, Watson is tall. Watson like six, four, six, five, maybe six, six. He that tall? But this uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh and they got him and Vita Vaya together? In the A-Gad? Oh Joe, he's 6'6". What? Yes. Yes, I told you he tall.

Yeah, he a big, yes. And so you, hey, the tall, that's why Gilbert, you know, Gilbert was probably 3'70", 3'80", cause Gilbert was probably 6'2". My man 6'6". Do you know how much weight the high you stack something the heavier can get? Yeah.

Damn. I know he was that tall. He looks short. Yeah. He was at Florida. He looked short because he's so big. Six six. Six six. Well, ain't nobody gonna be able to run the ball.

Boy, Vita Vea and him and that goddamn egg out. Man, you, damn. Yeah, but I think just for general health purposes. Right, right, right, right, right. He gotta get down to the picture. Understandable, understandable. He gonna be a four up here, get out there though, I know that.

I hope so, Ojo. I'm pulling for young fella. I'm pulling for him. To come in at almost 500 pounds, to get a scholarship, to get down to 464, now he's probably down to 434. I mean, people don't understand, but that's still a big ass man. 400 pounds?

Let that sink in he 400 pounds and he have like he ain't just sitting around just eating yeah and he go he oh he's only gonna get so small right he's 6'6 and he's always gonna have this problem mojo because his body knows body knows, hell, I carried 500, so I can do it again. So he's always gonna have to fight that battle of his body going back to where it was comfortable. His body was comfortable there.

And that's what I tell people, when people ask me, they say, well, you know, man, I wanna lose it. I said, let me ask you a question. What is a weight you can get to and you don't have to kill yourself to stay at? Because if you gotta kill yourself, the one, two days that you don't kill yourself, you going right back.

Right, right. So where can you get to a weight that's comfortable for you that you don't have to kill yourself to maintain it? And in the process of doing that, stop saying diet, because diet has start and stop dates. Say I'm embarking on a lifestyle change. You got to have discipline too, huh? It's one thing to say it and do it in season for six months, but what's going to happen in the next six months when you're not playing?

You got to be able to stick to that plan, whatever that plan may be. Hard too, that's hard. Especially when you've been playing. Yes, it's hard for me to see a scenario where Desmond Watson was not always a large kid. Large child, large kid, large teen. He's only 22.

Yeah. So he's probably been large. He's probably, it's hard for me to see a scenario where he wasn't at least a 10 pound baby. Hell, I was 10 pounds. Really? I would die. Yeah.

Yeah, I was 12. That's crazy. I was 10 pounds,. That's crazy. I Was 10 pounds so it's hard and I'm not you know, I think I'm normal but I'm not a normal guy I mean, I'm 250 He outweighed me by almost 200 pounds So it's hard for me to believe that he weighs six seven pounds of the baby and now all of a sudden he this side I Mean look, it's not always, but a lot of times,

big babies be big kids be big adults. But I'm rooting for him. I sure hope he can pull this off. He can get this down. Ocho Chargers reportedly signed Rashaun Slater, four years, 114 million, 92 million guaranteed, making him the richest offensive lineman in NFL history. He just passed Tristan Worth, who did a deal.

His 28.5 is 380,000 more than Tristan Worth. Peney Sewell was at 28 million, Trent Williams at 27.55, and Christian Darasaw is at 26 million. Wait a minute. Where's Lane Johnson? I think Lane by 25. Oh, well, we know who finna reset that market then. They just did, but see the thing is Lane was like, bro, y'all just get me done.

Cause they always stay ahead of the curve with Lane. Cause remember they just did Lane, they just did Mylotta, they just did Dickerson. with Lane. Because remember they just did Lane, they just did Mylotta, they just did Dickerson, AJ, Devontae, Saquon, Jayler. Now you got that big dog coming down the pike. Oh yeah, they gotta save everything they can for that one. That's good, that's finna break the bank. Just like, I don't know if you remember that, welcome back Carter. It was Carter, but welcome back Carter.

Cause, hey, you gotta welcome him back with open arms. Cause in the next five years, he gonna be the dominant defensive, he could easily be the dominant defensive player in football. He has that kind of ability. You're going to year three, right? This year three?

Yes, yes. Well, he would get paid after this season with the way Howie and- He could. Yeah. Yes, yes. Damn, that's dope. Lane, Lane, didn't they just redo Lane last year, Ash?

Yes, they just redid him last year, 25. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, but he that boy, my, Hey, well, Hey, I don't need to be, Hey, I don't need to be the highest paid. Just keep me up there. Just keep me up there somewhere. Now we got money to go around. We can keep this team together and I can continue to win cause man, it's easy to go out there and stay healthy and fight when I know hey every week we got a chance to win this thing but boy these salaries are going crazy I mean an offensive lineman making 28 million down there 30? That got to be the blind side. Please have easy left tackle. Yes he left. I was going to say.

Well that's that's the that's the, that's the, listen. Well, Daryl, well, Peney Sewell and Lane are right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Slater, worse, they moved Tristan to the left side because he started out as a right tackle. Obviously, that silverback, Trent Williams, he's been a 10 Pro Bowls, he's been that boy for a minute. I still look, I love all these guys. I love them all, but healthy. He the best in the business. Trent. Yes, sir.

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Even at his age. Absolutely. Would he, everybody at the absolute best, Trent that boy. He him. And I love Lane Johnson,

because Lane ain't nothing to play with. All these guys, I mean, that's why they make the money they make. Tristan Worth, hey, Peney Sewell, hey, all these guys, Darrell Shaw, I think Darrell Shaw was injured last year. All these guys are good, but at his best, he need to be played with.

Jim Harbaugh says, Justin Herbert, biggest weakness is offensive teammates must get to his level. I see him at the level, that's the highest level of the quarterback. First five season, nobody's thrown for more yards than NFL history. This is the truth. Justin Herbert's biggest weakness is

all of those that are counting on the offense, coaches, offensive lab, playmakers, receivers, running backs to get to his level. Ocho? Yeah. Do you like him saying that? Yeah. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. Listen, the players need to hear that. When you got a quarterback playing at that kind of level, we need everybody else to show up. We need everybody else to show up. And need everybody else to show up and he's really talking about the skill position. Honestly, that's what he's calling out. I want one person, there's one

person to me. Now he's saying he's talking to coaches, offensive line, playmakers, receivers, running back, he's talking to everybody on offensive side. Coaches ain't on the field, but the people, the schemes and the X and O's, that's one thing, but the people that's on that field and that green gram between them lines, they got to do everything. Yeah, one person that I highly believe that I love to death and I'm hoping this is his year and I need him to show up and show out. And that's Quentin Johnson. I need it. I need you to show up and show out and be the receiver that I know you could be

so I can keep talking my shit. He had a couple of drops. I think he's been plagued with drops. Yeah, but listen, every team has one. The Bengals have Jamar Chase, well, and T Higgins. You know, every team has one. That player that you can count on. I need Quinn Johnson to be that guy for Justin Herbert.

Whatever he needs. Yeah, I need him to be that guy. I'm trying to think if I ever heard a coach say that I've never heard a coach say that maybe not publicly maybe behind closed doors. But it's a good thing. Harbaugh's not one of those that's going to shy away from what he wants to say and what he truly believes. No, no, no, no, he's not. I truly believe, I'm not saying this in the meeting room, I'm saying it publicly so you all know I need you to show up to do your job. I need all of you to be held accountable because I'm looking at the numbers

that my quarterback is putting up, but it's not. But a lot of some of those numbers that he putting up because he's throwing interceptions early and he's behind in the game. Having to catch back up. Yeah. All yards aren't created equal. That's a good one.

Because sometimes we look at the stat sheet and say, oh, he played good. Well, you do realize the only reason he was, bro, you can't drown me and then bring me back to shore and talk about man, hey, and I'm supposed to thank you for saving my life, bro, it was you that capsized the boat. Right. You put us in this spot.

I think Justin Herbert is a really good quarterback. Sometimes I think he gets, you know, because of the physical traits, the abilities that he has, they see that big time arm, Ocho, they see he can make every throw in the field and you fall in love with that. And it's easy, and it's easy, I can see why they fall in love with it.

But it's easy for you to fall in love with winning. Cause we see a lot of, I see a lot of guys have a building that can throw the ball 80 yards. Can you make plays when you absolutely have to have them? Go back and look at the great ones. Look at Tom. What could Tom do

when he needed to make a play, when he needed to make a throw? Tom did it. But hey, what? Wait, you heard what you just said? You said Tom did it. Yes. We need to make their throw. We need to make those plays. The players caught them. When Herbert has to make those plays, you got Lad McConkey has showed up. Yeah. I need two more than players on that offense to show up every time consistently.

Right. My brother- Who did they play? Didn't they play Houston? They played Houston in the playoffs. Yeah. Who's the number two over there? You know the number two receiver? Who's the number two over there? You know the number two receiver

Who's the number two receiving the tight end then Palmer? I think Palmer he ended up going to go into a Buffalo was nice Yeah, I think Palmer and then they had Johnson, you know, Quinn Johnson been there. I'm trying to think who the number two is now though. I Guess it'll be Quinn Johnson. I Know Q was the number one So what's lad MacConkey? He's two because he's in the slot. Well, Armand Ross St. Brown is in the slot. He number one, CD in the slot, he number one.

Okay, I see what you're talking about. Okay. And one thing, Lab MacConkey's been consistent, Ochoa. He mad. Set your clock by. Nasty with it, boy. Set your clock by. He nasty with it.

Look, the thing about Harbaugh, he's old school. He got that coach, he played for Coach Schemberg. He played for Mike Dicker. And like my granddad used to say, boy, they tell you like a TISD is. It is, hey. Ain't no Coach Schenberg wasn't sugarcoating it, and Mike Dicker damn sure wasn't sugarcoating it.

So Harbaugh, that's where he played under, he got Coach Tootle-Junder, okay, this is what you're gonna get. He says, hey, this guy's playing at this level. I need everybody that's playing here and here to get to here. Matter of fact, you know what that office needs to look like? With the goddamn Herbert, Mike Williams, and Kenan Allen. Yep, I agree.

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defense the last two, 47 snaps.. Early today he broke up three passes in 21 snaps and 11 on 11 including the final play of practice in the red zone. Have we ever seen a player like this? No we've never seen a player like this. Are there other players if given the opportunity could have done this? Maybe, maybe not but if they could they would have done it. could have done this, maybe, maybe not. But if they could, they would have done it. If they could, they would have done it. I mean, we've seen Leon, we've seen, we've seen Chan Bailey, we've seen Charles Woodson, but not to this magnitude.

You know who played at a high level on both sides of the ball and people don't forget about it? Roy Green, Roy Green, Roy Green. Google it. That before my time? Yeah, I remember Roy Green. He could play. What position?

He ended up going, he was a DB and a wide receiver. They said, nah, we, hey, don't worry about the wide receiver. Go on over here to this side. He ended up going to the Pro Bowl. Roy Green, go look at Cardinals. Look him up, Ocho. to the Pro Bowl Roy Green go Cardinals look him up. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. He'll owe Roy Green can play Yes, Lord Roy Green could play. I never heard of him When you Google if you'll hear of the damn he would like that God damn, his sleeves way down by his elbow.

You want 81? Yep. Oh, you got a nice little Jerry girl. Mm hmm. Okay. Return points kickoffs. Oh, he did it all. Roy Green, wherever you see with Phoenix, Phoenix Cardinals. You learned something new, huh?

That's cool. He was good. He was really, really good. Yeah. But it was amazing. I'm anxious to see him. I'm anxious to see him out there. Yeah. I'm excited. I wonder, I wonder what Jacksonville will play week one. Take me a little trip right on down to Jacksonville, man. I'm excited. I'm excited.

I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited.

I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm Yeah, I'm excited. I wonder what Jacksonville play week one. Take me a little trip right on down to Jacksonville, man. Well, you got to deal with Nico Collins and then you got Stingley. That's what they play week one?

No, I'm just saying saying Tennessee is in that division. Oh, yeah. You got Calvin Ridley, and then you got Ligeria Snead. Hey, um, you need to- I don't know the DBs and Andy, but you know, you got Pittman and you got Pierce. Yeah. You got your handful now. And that's just in a division.

Their home week one. Who they play. So McMillan, Panthers. Oh, the Panthers? Yeah. Hey listen, I've been high on the Panthers. I've been high on the Panthers and I'm only high on the Panthers

because it's a receiving corps. Xavier Leggett, Jimmy Horn, T McMillan, Hunter Winfroy, Adam Thielen. Yeah Hunter Winfroy was looking good and I've been seeing some of his tips and practice, he's been looking good. Yeah. Listen, I call him, put you in a blender. He always put people in a blender, you put him in the right position to make those plays, that's what he does. Yeah. He got sick though, Ocho. He got sick. Is that what

it was? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. They nice. They nice. And I said it here first on Nightcap. I'm telling you, when the Panthers transitioned to being a winning team this year and to be the surprise team of the NFL, I said it first. Keep pounding, bitch. Yeah. And you got to understand, Ocho, sometimes he ain't gonna be getting Travis ain't gonna be getting number one because they got Brian Thomas Jr. over there. Yeah. You got to worry about him. Oh, well, listen, matter of fact, when you think about it, when they played a Texan, since the Texans, no, that's not their division. Yeah, it is.

It is their division. Texas, Tennessee, and NBA. Okay, let's say when he's at receiver, you got to deal with Stingley, and if you're not on Stingley's side, then you got to deal with motherfucking Lassiter. Ain't no slouch either, based on what he did,

based on his resume from last year. Man, talk about having your hands full? Okay, that's your hands full He will have to be mentally locked in For literally a hundred plays a game if he's trying to do this because any slip up mentally done It's a game of inches Yep You're done. It's a game of inches. Yep. Todd Monkin said the Ravens offense has been committing false starts in training

camp because they're stressed. Various cadences. It's real easy to get frustrated, which I do. I'm the king of overreacting. But if you do that, then you'll, you'll just snap the ball on one every time and that doesn't help you either. So we're in a sweet spot. Now is the time to practice that. We're going to fight that like heck to be good at it. We can't be elite at cadence.

If other teams can be, we can be, then we should be. If other teams can be, we can be. So in other words, A, we got to use that hard count. Payton, hard count. Elway, the really good ones were good use that hard cap. That's Peyton hard cap. Elway out. The really good ones were good at that hard cap. I mean, you let pay you let them defensive guys get a get a get a get a beat on your show.

Yeah, it'd be good. But also sometimes you don't have to complicate things on some football is played when it's played in his purest form is when it's simple. But it's nice and simple. Would you have offensively? You don't even have to add add the tricks, the tricks of the trade of having to use the hard count. It can be advantageous for you offensively, but you're so good on offense, you don't even have to do it. No, you're not. You don't have to. You don't have to complicate it. You're not that good. Go

on one and let them guys time. Well, them too good. Boy, oh, Ocho, you see our team, sometimes they already, man, he off sides. No, he ain't. When you say, huh, he gone. That was me, Ocho. I was, hey, hey, I get it. Ocho, we tried it,

because John was really good at the hard cap. But he get me sometimes. Like, damn. He like, T, what the hell Yeah. I did, Ocho. I be trying, hey, I'm trying to get out. Hey, hey, it must be a pass. Man, damn, you, where you, where you going in a hurry? Right. I'm going to the end zone. That's where I was going. But I get it. And that's what practice is about, Ocho.

Sometimes people, you get frustrated in practice. You get frustrated in practice. You get frustrated in practice. You get frustrated in practice. You get frustrated in practice. You get frustrated in practice. You get frustrated in practice. You get frustrated in practice.

You get frustrated in practice. You get frustrated in practice. You get frustrated in practice. You get frustrated in practice. You get frustrated in practice. You get frustrated in practice. You get frustrated in practice. You get frustrated in was going. But I get it. And that's what practice is about. Sometimes people you get frustrated in practice when things you know, you just snap count or you drive, but that would have this practice. That's what it's for. Should it be perfect on day three with it with that on day three, four, something like that. They just had pads on. I think the first day of pads was yesterday or maybe day before yesterday. I mean, so so what be spoke about here be perfect? That's the whole thing.

The whole thing is like I'm practicing so I can get it right and it's tough because everybody especially when you're tired. Oh yeah. Man don Ocho. Listen, fatigue makes the fool of us all. Man. I ain't finna hold you, Ocho. I promise you, ain't no tight end jumping off sides more than me. I might not have a whole lot of records left, but jumping off sides is what I think I would be,

bad please. I be gone. Gone. Oh man, that's funny man. And I may or may not have, you know, give me a couple of extra yards. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying don't jump off side.

Woo woo. Give me a couple of extra. No, but man, I be trying to get out. I ain't gonna lie. I'm not, hey, I'm trying to jump off that rock cuz I'm thinking I'm trying to be Usain Bolt out the gate. Yeah But I but I get Todd Munger say bro we we gotta switch this thing up cuz you let people like oh So you let them lock in on that cadence

Them guys are really them TJ Watson bosses a wheel Anderson juniors the Michael Parsons Don't got really good Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right You're right, you're right Steph Curry on the shot that changed his life. It's the shot against Gonzaga I really felt like that was the difference maker not to say I wouldn't have been able to figure it out had we lost, but that was a big moment. Ocho, what was the play that changed your life?

The play that changed my life, especially from a receiver standpoint, was dropping the ball. It wasn't even catching the ball. I'll never forget, rest in peace, Oliver Gibson. We were playing the Indianapolis Colts. I think it might've been my rookie year, maybe my second year, but the keeper drive gone,

we went for it on fourth down, the keeper drive gone, to go down and maybe tie the game or actually win the game. I dropped the goddamn slam on fourth down. And here I am crying, getting just, you know, Oliver Gibson came up to me, grabbed me by my shirt. It's a picture of it too. I posted it on Twitter when he passed away. Just, you know what? Oliver Gibson came up to me, grabbed me by my shirt. It's a picture of it too. I posted it on Twitter when he passed away.

Grabbed me up by my shirt. Man, if you don't stop that crime, because you're going to have another opportunity to win us a game. Changed everything. But I got on that jug machine and just... I was different after that, from that point. I hadn't even become Chad Johnson yet. I wasn't nobody at that point.

After dropping that game, I realized, I just cost us a game. Cost us a game, and I always told myself, from that point on, I'll either be one of the reasons why we're in a game, or we win games from that point on. And that's exactly what happened. Yeah. The same thing happened to me.

Yeah. In 1999, I dropped the touchdown that would have given us home field advantage throughout the playoffs. Damn. I still think about that play. Ocho, I man has made so sweet hand me a, oh. You was by yourself?

I was in tight, Ocho in tight. Yeah. I motion out, lying back away with me. Yeah. Like niggas say, I just ate it on him. Ocho, I'm thankful to that. Ocho, I'm right here. I'm already thanking you.

Oh, I'm finna do this, I'm finna do that. It went right through your hands? Right through? Right through him. Right through him, Ocho. But that's the worst for you, that boy. Dropping the ball. In the South End zone, man.

I'll never forget, and I came to the sideline, the students will say, hey Sharp, you'll get it back, you'll get it back. I'm like, you know the opportunity ain't gonna come. Cause it wasn't like I was the number one receiver. They're gonna be feeding me balls. Right. Right. Right. Pause. That will be feeding me. They will throw me no balls like that.

Oh, okay. Okay. They're going to be throwing me football. They weren't feeding me footballs like that. There you go, man. So I knew that opportunity wasn't gonna come back that day. It might come back at a later date and time, but it wasn't coming back that day. And I remember, Ocho, and so I dropped that play and then at Wednesday's practice, man, I was catching, I was catching everything. I mean, I was taking stuff off practice, man, I was catching, I was catching everything.

I mean, I was taking stuff off my shoe tops. I was making stuff one-handed and then, I mean, he's like, I sure wish you'd caught that one on Sunday like this. Sometimes say, listen, sometimes you relax at the wrong times. Yeah. Anytime I drop the ball is because I relax. Oh Joe, you know what I did?

I didn't extend. I did this. Oh, like the ball. And yeah. Damn. And so the ball just like. Damn. Boy, that hurt. I was like, damn. And so the ball just like. Damn.

Boy, that hurt. Boy, that hurt, that hurt, that hurt. I remember going home crying. I called my brother. He said, man, what's wrong? I said, man, it's fine. So you went, so you got home. I was crying in the middle of the field. Yeah, I couldn't let him see me cry

because somebody might have seen somebody had a swing on somebody on the field. Yeah, I couldn't let him see me cry because somebody might have said something, I might have had a swing on somebody on the field. Oh, you got jokes? Don't. Listen, you know- Bet I would did that car cry, I was like, man. And you know- As a matter of fact, oh, you had a four door blazer.

I'll never forget, had a four door blazer. Boy. Damn. You know me, boy, I let them tears fly, boy. I don't care where I'm at. Well, that thing hurt. That hurt. And I agree with Steph. And he's like, I'm not saying that I couldn't have figured it out at a later date and time, but I believe that was the moment that he's like,

hold on, we Davidson, that's Gonzaga. And they, you know, they always in the playoffs. They always one of the, you know, and when he took them down, look, I had never seen anybody shoot the ball like that. Not from that kind of distance, not just pull up like that. He was, you know, like he's six, too.

Like he's an average, he's not six, four, six, five. And he just letting it go. I mean, he dancing on folk, his shorts like three size, like if they made for his dad, you know what I'm saying? And he was just letting it fly. Damn. He definitely left his mark, man.

Davidson. I wonder with so many three-point shooters that have come along, what separated Steph and made him as good as he is? What made him so great? They gave him the green light to do it. You see prior to Steph only a handful think about it Ocho everybody shooting threes now. Yeah, that was a how many times that's a bad step. There's no shot that Steph takes that

people actually believe is a bad shot right. People were shooting some of the shots that Steph shoot routinely into the first quarter, into the half, into the shot clock. Right. Steph would shoot that shot with 15, 16 seconds on the shot clock. But somebody had to give him the confidence saying that's okay. Mark Jackson was that guy. Now he shot that and come to the NBA. Guys wouldn't shoot no shots like Steph. I mean, Reggie was a catch and shoot. Ray was a little, was catch and shoot, but he could. Steph can dance and launch it from the timeline. You literally have to pick Steph up at half corn

or he'll let it go. Right. And you think because with his ability to be able to create separation, create his own shot, it makes it that much more easier for him? Yes, absolutely. Because, and plus the thing is if you hug up on it because he can have, he can put it on the floor and get by you. Yeah.

He can get all the way to the rim. So now, and then he runs constantly. He doesn't get tired. Because the first thing, if you get tired, your shot goes. You short. He's probably the best conditioned athlete because nobody's running as much as he does.

Oh, he run a lot. He run a lot. And he just let it fly. That'd be confusing when I think about basketball and you know, you're playing the Warriors and as much as Steph Grunt, like me, you know how when you play defense and you're in the DB say, listen, they in a bunch, we're going to banjo it. If you come in your area, you just pick him up.

But I forget, man, just zone. So you don't got to run all over the place after. OK, and now again, and guess what happens now when they backpick that zone guess what step wide open They're gonna run they're gonna run they're gonna run you off so many screens Yeah, that's that sucks. That's tough. And the thing is and when you miss a shot you would think because they're such a small team They are small, yeah. That they're not gonna, they're one of the better rebounding teams. So when they get these long rebounds off the carom,

Steph automatically goes to reset. So now you play in zone, okay? He go reset to one of those corners. He'll get it and he'll come all the way cross in the corner and then he'll come up. That's crazy. But some giving you confidence, like to shoot it, son.

No worries, we're not gonna take you out. Shoot the ball. Hey, nobody else got the green head like he does, huh? Oh, they like, that guy's got it now, but he made it Okay, now you see everybody shooting three though. They're shooting damn They're not as efficient as he is No, but you think about it At this point in time buddy. He'll is ahead of where Steph Curry was with threes made Anthony Edwards. Yes

Because nobody was shooting them. They're shooting of them now Look Jason Tatum. Look how many threes he shoots a game Look how many Ant Man shoots a game buddy heel even though buddy wasn't a star buddy was coming and let the three go Everybody let everybody let the three go now. It's the three And everybody think this death curry you watching the a you kids every age group and they shoot they shoot from three let me throw in the ball cuz they can't they can't shoot it cuz they so small alright oh Joe it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. You may go ahead.

Close that door. Tatey to way Bay was good. Uncle No Joe who's the most who has the most approved this season all all love. Hope the fam is doing good. Who has the most approved this season? the most approved this season? Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar. You make a case for Dak Prescott coming off of injury plague

season. Who do you think has the most approval to this season? Uh this season? Oh, that's a good question. You would think it would be all the teams that are, I call it, I call it pressure situations that have to get it done. Lamar Jackson, your Josh Allen's, your Joe Burrows, obviously Aaron Rodgers, all the lights are really going to be on him on what he's going to do. Let me me see there's no pressure on CJ Stroud, no pressure on Jaden Daniels, no pressure on Jordan Love. Maybe golf, maybe golf might have a little bit of that pressure as well. If I can find and deliver as well as they've been doing, they've been going in the right direction. What about

Tua? You think Tua has something to prove as well? Yeah, you got to prove you can stay healthy. But he can prove well that that's that's about it. Everyone else is kind of safe. Aaron Jones, Hey, nightcap much love up, you know, last year eagles with a whoop your ravers. We were going great on both sides of the ball, bro. Y'all ain't beaten nothing. Um, yeah, what rules are we playing under? Are y'all gonna let us knock the hell out y'all? Nah, let's play the rules back then, 2000.

Ain't no way, no way. Hey, Miss Saquon might've had what? Maybe 20, 30 yards, if that. They're not, who gonna catch the ball over the middle? I don't know if you'll go back and look at that paper and how many people we knocked, they knocked out of the game. I don't think you.

Quarterbacks, wide receivers, you gotta realize there was no defenseless receiver. There's no rules back then. And there was none of that, oh, you couldn't hit the, you couldn't hit the quarterback this place or that place no bro. I like our chances Aaron. Sean the wise one said you're wrong Sean and he said that they're constantly get put favorite positions where the best corner isn't always guarding them unlike AJ Brown. Wait, the best corner is, the best corner is guarding everybody we named in that conversation, especially the top five.

It's always the best corner. Yes. Most of these corners, I mean, the really good ones travel. Yeah. And plus you got, and a lot of these, a lot of these teams don't have a comparable Devontae. So if Devontae start cooking, well, guess what? Guess what the number one corner gonna go? To Devontae.

And then AJ start cooking, cooking the number two. No, I'm not wrong, bro. These are not, you can dress it up however you want to. Chase, Jeddah and Reek aren't scheme receivers. I don't believe they're scheme receivers. You don't become the Triple Crown. You don't put up the numbers that they putting up being schemed.

Cause that was the case everybody would do it, huh? Yes. That was the case? Yes. Yeah. Brock Sloan, the Panthers have the most diverse wide receiver corps ever. They have Leggett, McMillan, Renfro, Thielen, Jimmy Horn plus Jalen Coker. Listen, they have the right balance of veterans, rookies, and those that are on the cusp of arriving. Not very many people that are proven

yet, but I'm telling you, they could be special. They could be special. All they have to do, just consistency week in and week out and just be there for Bryce. I'm telling you, they're going to shock all you motherfuckers. Almost cursed again. They're going gonna shock all you people who doubt them. And I'm very, very, very high on that Panthers receiving core. Just week to week, keep pounding and be consistent. That's it. If Jimmy Horn can take what he's doing in training camp preseason OTAs and translate that. If Leggett can take that next step, be that big physical receiver, consistent receiver that they drafted him to be. Renfro is tremendous in the slot.

I like feeling he's consistent. McMillan. I agree. I like that Ocho, I like that pick. I can't say that you're wrong. Yeah. Uh, Kristen Noriega, Pittsburgh Steeler Nation here. Big shout out to, uh, uh, and Ocho. My question is, should Washington go back to the previous name with their logo back?

Why? You think they're gonna win more? I mean. Well, Trump, 45, 45 said if they don't go back, he's gonna withhold something in pertaining to building of a new stadium, something like that, right? Well, just wait till he leave office and then build it there. But he also said that presidents should stay out

of the naming of teams. Oh, okay. But at the time he wasn't the president. So normally when you hear him talk, things aren't applicable to him. Okay, I got you. Now when it can become applicable to him, they should intervene, they should weigh in.

We shouldn't be in,, when he wasn't president, we shouldn't be intervening in wars fighting overseas. Now that he's in president, we're intervening. So it seems to me, when it's not applicable to him, don't do it. When it's applicable to him, do it. That's my thoughts on that. Really say, if you guys have switched,

where would you, you got drafted in teams, do you, do your guys think you would have had the same careers, better, worse, the same? No, I went to the right situation. I went to Denver. They were one of the two or three teams that had the H-back position. I had a quarterback that believed in me,

that was patient with me, saw the ability, but knew I needed time to grow into the position. And he had patience, everybody wasn't gonna have patience with me like that. So no, my career would not have been the same had I gone to Cincinnati, had I gone somewhere else. I needed to go to Denver. A coach that believed in me, that put me in the offense,

that called plays for me, John believed in me, gave me time to develop. No, I am not the player. I'm not the pro bowl. I'm not the all pro. I'm not the Hall of Fame player. If I go somewhere else, I have a question. That is my belief. Now your situation was different from mine. When I went to Cincinnati, Cincinnati was the laughing stock of the NFL at that time, if you remember. Con- Yeah. Con- consecutive losing seasons.

Yeah, y'all were terrible. Okay, you ain't had to say all that. Oh, my bad, my bad, that's a little bit of a joke. It was bad. So hypothetically speaking, if I go to a better situation, I still would have been the same player. What if they don't let you behave in the manner that you behave in?

I was just having fun. But everybody ain't gonna let you have fun. If I'm putting up the numbers, I'm putting up. Yes, I am. Okay, okay. Well, why'd you do that in New England? Oh, because that's a no-go. Everybody ain't gonna let you do that.

That's one team. But that's what I'm, what if you go to that team? You go to the Bears, they're not gonna let you do that. That's West one team. But that's what I'm, what if you go to that team? You go to the Bears, they're not gonna let you do that. That the old school coaches back there. Check this out. Boy, if I was in Chicago, why would I turn soldier field upside down? You hear me?

Could you imagine me as a bear in my prime? Yeah, I can imagine you would coach Dicker Buttonhead. Man, man, boy you would coach Dicker Buttonhead. What? Man, man, boy. Listen, Dick would love me boy. He uh Dick and McMahon Butt. He is. They did. Hey, McMahon was flashy though. He

was flashy. McMahon was flashy. Really? You don't say what about you? Flashy. Exactly. Oh boy. Hey, hey, I'm gonna get sometime, Ocho. I was getting a thick heart attack, boy. Celebrating? Man, I would be doing all kinds of crazy stuff. Sometimes you just have to go to the right situation

at the right time. Right situation, right time. Quentin Mays, do you own, do you check on your player cards to see the value? No, I do not. Ocho, you check on the value of players cards? You know, I don't care about no member real, your man. No, I don't. Kemper Norwood Jr. said,

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