Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Michael Phelps coming to Baltimore to teach the players how to swim!

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Michael Phelps teaches the Baltimore Ravens how to swim, James Cook gets a new 4 year deal with the Buffalo Bills, & robbers broke into Hall of Famer Andre Johnson’s home and much more! 0:00 - Cam Heyward contract issues with Steelers8:45 - Cam Ward believes Titans has Top 5 receiving core 12:16 - Michael Phelps teaches Ravens to swim33:50 - Crazy linemen stories36:42 - James Cook agrees to extension38:12 - Robbers broke into HOF Andre Johnson’s home42:50 - Officials cracking down on faking injuries in college football44:50 - Cristiano Ronaldo engaged46:31- Ocho big 3 celeb game49:53 - Happiest couples post the least56:20 - Spider season in Australia: Mass Ballooning1:01:21 - Q & Ayyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. I'm Jake Hofer, and this is Back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode, I'll be asking eight wide-tail hunting pros, a focused, thought-provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm

with less than ideal access? Should you, that's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand. Listen to Back40 on IHeartRad, app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Get fired up, y'all. Season two of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people,

an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapino, to the show, and we had a blast. Take a listen. Sue and I were, like, riding the lime bikes the other day, and we're like, we! People ride bikes because it's fun. We got more incredible guests like Megan in store, plus news of the day and more.

so make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports Network. Uh-oh, Joe. Cam Hayward is open to sitting out regular season games in search of a raise. Cam Hayward, who's the 22nd highest paid DT, said he's looking to be valued. It's hard for me after the year I had to really justify playing at that number I'm playing at. Heyward said the team asked him to take a pay cut last summer. They ironed out a rework deal instead that runs through 2026.

Hayward responded by bouncing back from an injury marred 2023 season depending for eight sacks, 71 tackles, 11 pass defense, as the Steelers went 10 and 7 and reached the playoffs for the fourth time in five years. Hey, listen, Cam Hayward said, I can't play a 15 million. now those that are on the outside watching fans NFL fans oh the first thing going to say oh my goodness you can't play on 15 million dollars they don't see it from that perspective of actually being an athlete being an all pro player and being a detackle that i'm not sure when it comes to the detackles where he's ranked when it comes tackles in the NFL right now as far as where he should be slated at right next to lawrence one of the betters the ad olivers one of the betters uh errant donald is no longer he's He's different because he's a five technique because there are three, four defense. So he's not, he's not like in your typical, like a Warren Sapp. He's not like Aaron Donald, what Aaron Donald was in the 43.

He's a three, four, he's more of a JJ Watt. He's a five technique. Right. And so I don't want to, I'm going to try to keep it simple. But if you notice, they got two life, they got a nose tackle. Yeah. They got two ends and they got two linebackers. Right.

So they got four linebackers, a Sam on a wheel, a mic, and a plug. Right. And they got three down linemen. He's what we call a five technique. Right. He's the defensive end, but he's playing a five technique. Not the three technique or what we call the under tackle that Joe Green made famous. And the Warren Safs, the Johnny Randalls, and the Aaron Donalds, those type of guys.

He's a five tech. Yeah. And so with that being said, but the Steelers are saying, hold on, bro. We just redid your contract. That last year. Last year. Yeah, but they asked him to take a pay cut. They asked him to take a pay cut.

I'm assuming because of his injury and his play might have been down. Right. So is it warranted that it gets a raise after making an all-pro? He should have just signed a one-year deal. I agree with you, Ocho. I'm just from a Steelers perspective. Yes, sir. Okay, Ocho.

You come in there, you're like, oh, hey, bro, I want to, hey, man, I need such and such. Well, you know, Ocho, you didn't have the best year now. Okay. So what you're thinking? well how about this we're going to we're going to do this

we'll give you we'll give you 29 million for the next two years well that's the risk that you run because what what he didn't expect was for the defensive market to explode like it has so now what looked like a really good deal is like chicken feed

to him so now you get miles garrett you got his teammate making 41 million right miles garrett making 40 you got uh uh nick bosa you got max crosbie you got denail hunter you got michael parsons you got all these guys and he's like hold on he can't compare he can't compare himself to the line he doesn't he has to compare himself to the detackles that played a five technique or other D tackles in the NFL. He looked at D. But even the D tackles, Kristen Wilkins was making $24

million. Look at Dexter Lawrence. Give me the top five high aspect. I'm curious. I'm curious because I'm not, Jeffrey Simmons got to be up there too. Yep. Over there in Tennessee. Aaron. Simmons, Lawrence, Kristen Wilkins was making

$24.5 million. You get picked up yet? No. Okay. I'm trying to think. Who else? D tackles, D tackles. Oh, Vida-Va. V-A-V-A-V-A-V-A-V-V-A got to be top-five paid as well. But him being at 22, that's tough.

Asch is seeing it to me. Yeah, I agree to Ocho is that, you know, you're looking at guy, I mean, at defensive players, you got like, okay, D-Tackles. Okay, where's the D-Tackles market? The D-Tackle market is in the mid-20s. He's like, bro, I'm at 14 and a half, 15.

So what would make it happen? What would make them happy, you think? Maybe 18? Because being ranked 20-10th. Chris Jones is the highest paid at 3,1-750. How did I forget Chris Jones? Matabiquet from the Ravens. The Ravens is at 24.5?

Okay. Alam McNeil from Detroit, 24-250. Derek Brown, Carolina, 24. 20 Williams 24 simmons jeffrey simmons i don't know why i call him keep coming simmons simmons is 235 defarge buckner coates 23 he's good ron paine washington 22 5 dexter lawrence 21 875 kenny clark 21 i got i got something for you right here on what i'm gonna tell you how the runy's thinking i'm gonna tell you what tomlin is thinking how old is cam haward cam cam cam cam cam came

in 2011, so he at least 36 at the bare minimum. They're not, they're not, they're not doing it. They're not doing it. They're not doing it. He's 36, Coach. Everybody you just named, are they even 30 yet? Jones is. Jones is the best, Chris Jones is the best, best de-tackle in the NFL.

Right. You know, I mean, he only came. Jones just turned, he's 31, but I don't think Matta Biqueway, I don't think McNeil, uh, Quinny, I don't think Quinny is, is, is 20, 30? He might be. Um, 36. Come on now. Quentin Williams, 27? Damn.

Listen, Quinn, you don't remember Quinn Williams when he, uh, on draft night when he sneezed and he said, yeah, he bless himself? Yeah. Hey, but 36, um, I mean, listen, they can, they can be hard. And I see Ocho, it's going to be hard for them to put, put him in that situation. And, and, because he's like, okay, 15. Can you get me to 20? Okay, what?

20. Oh, that, oh, maybe, you know what we can do? We can get some of the sign the bonus. We'll take some of the money on the back end and bring it on the front end and put it into a sign of bonus so it doesn't affect the cap. Boom. But guess what, but guess what that does? Because that takes money off next year's cap.

That takes money off next year's base salary. And now that 15 is 10. Hey, I'm just trying to find out way. I know it's going to be very difficult. But knowing him and him saying he's going to stand his ground and not play, that's going to be tough. Because now you're going into a season where you're trying to compete in the division, you have Aaron Rodgers, and the defense is stacked with all the people that you just added.

Your identity now, I'm not calling. only the goddamn steel curtain, but with the players you have on paper, you should be very good and be able to compete week in and week out, especially in the AFC North and against other teams that you do play. I agree.

And you are a intricate part of that defense where it matters most. He's the captain. You're one of the captains of the defense. Damn, man, that's tough. That's tough for the Steelers. That's tough. I want you remember the other night,

we talked about Dalvin Cook, and I say his value is somewhere between 11 and 13, Hey, I said, I said, I said, 13, five. So where did he fall at? 12. James Cook, James Cook. 12? Yeah, 12.

Okay. Four years 48. I said the max did probably be is four years, 52, but I can see, you know, 11, 11 to 13. He's going to fall to somewhere with 11, 13. Yeah, he got, he's not, he's not, he's not, that 15, he ain't breaking up for a year. You got, he, listen, he got, he got 30 million guaranteed. He's going to be all right. Yeah.

He'll see that 30. Yeah. Every dollar. So he's going to be all right. But hey, he's like, nah, y'all not been to get me. Y'all been to get me something. I ain't fit to play on this contract. I'm Jake Hofer, and this is Back 40,

a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode, I'll be asking eight wide-tail hunting pros, a focused, thought-provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access? Should you?

That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand. Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Get fired up, y'all. Season two of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapino to the show, and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, co-hosting a podcast with her fiancé Sue Bird,

watching former teammates retire and more. Never a dull moment with Pino. Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete? The final. The final. And the locker room. I really, really, like, you just, you can't replicate, you can't get back. Showing up to locker room every morning just to shit talk.

We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker and college superstar AZ Fudd. I mean, seriously, y'all. The guest list is absolutely stacked. for season two. And, you know, we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Cam Ward believes he has a top five receiver core in the NFL right now. Ocho, do you believe that the Titans have a top five receiving corps? Uh, top five. Wait a minute. Let's, let's go. Eagles.

Eagles. Yeah. Bulls. Bucks. Bucks. Uh, I'm throwing the Packers in. Lions. Lions.

Packers. Vikes. I said Vikings already, I think, didn't I? Okay, you said Vikings already? Now, when Terry McLaren comes back, him and Debo, even though they haven't played together, we know what they can do. They've shown enough over the years. Mm-hmm.

I mean What about the Rams? Oh my goodness. Rams, Pook and the Coo and DeVonte Adams? Obviously we know what Devonty Adam could do. What about dolphins? Ooh, Tyreek and Waddle. What about the Bears?

Adonze, DJ Moore. Yeah, and Burton. Burden. You know, he, he, he, oh, um, hold on. We know what Tyler Locker could do. Yeah. We know a California. Calvin Ridley is that boy.

Do they have a top five receiving court? I wouldn't say top five. Okay. I wouldn't say top five. Yeah. Hey, they have a very, very good receiver in Calvin Ridley, though. PFF has them at the third worst receiving court. For real?

Well, listen, look, based on all the teams that we just. Browns are the worst than the Patriots, and then they got the Titans. I see. Oh, that's tough, boy. That's tough. I just know they went top five. Yeah, you got, you got to believe it ain't not top five.

But you have to say that. You're the quarterback. Oh, yeah, for sure. You have to feel that way about your squad. Sometimes you got a lot to them, Mocho. You got a lot to him. Whoa, we didn't even mention C.D. Lamb and George Pickens. Okay.

man we didn't but you did so there you go you got to feel that way though yeah for sure if you don't believe that about your team who will right and who's the number three over there in Tennessee now you got me thinking Tyler Lockett Calvin Ridley who's the number three

Chad who's the number three somebody tell me who's the number three in our number three did the number third wide receipt Van Jefferson. Okay, okay, Van Sala. Van was with the Rams.

Yes. Yeah, okay. Pittsburgh. Wasn't he with Pittsburgh? Where was he last year? Yeah, I said it since he first. I said it since he first. Yeah, I thought he was with Pittsburgh last year, oh, Joe.

Yeah, Cam, you look, I appreciate you, pumping up your squad, but y'all's not top five. I'm not even sure y'all top 10 when we, when we, We really get down to, and we start naming, name and receiving chorus, Ocho? I'm not sure they talk to you. Hey, I know one thing. Calvin really is that boy. Oh, yeah.

But it's more to, it's more to make a receiving chorus more. Right, right, right, right, right, right. Well, hell. Paul and Humphrey posted a video on social media a while ago asking Michael Phelps for his help because one of the three Ravens players can't swim. So Phelps attended Ravens training camp with Ray Lewis and taught the team how to swim. We often overlooked that many of these athletes grew up in inner city communities with little to no access to pool or swimming lessons.

Ocho, can you swim or do we need to call Michael Phelps for you? But they used to call me flipper back in the day. You heard me? They used to call me flipper. Charles Halley Park is where I used to swim. Sometimes they were closed. When Charles Halley Park were closed, man, we jump. Up the gate and we go swim.

I taught myself to swim. Me and my home boy, Jamie, I don't know where Jamie at. Jamie, if you see this from back in the day, I think Jamie stayed right off 45th, not too far from me. Well, they had the diving board, everything, huh? Right next to Alapada Elementary. Well, I can swim, huh? Yeah, they had a pool at Reesville State Park,

and it was 50 cents to get in. Did y'all have a pay to get into the pool? 50 cent. It was a quarter for us. Yeah. Y'all expensive. Yeah, I think it was 50 cent. Hey, let me tell you something really, too.

It might have been a quarter of Ocho, and then the paddle boat might have been 50 cents because you can take the paddle boat out on the lake. Man, I've been so long ago with your nose. Hey, hey, let me tell you what was so fun about being on Hadley Park, right? You play basketball, you can play basketball. They had karate class in the back. They had the tennis course.

They had the handball course, right? And then the pool sit on the front street right off, is that 12th Avenue? 12th or 10th Avenue I'm so confused but going swimming right and you hear the ice cream truck coming and the ice cream truck comes to the boy that's one of the best feelings in the world when you hear the ice cream truck coming you get a little break get you some ice cream get some donuts I used to get jungle juice jungle juice two pickle eggs and a fruit punch and then they told us them like all the year don't hey after you eat you got to stay out the pool oh that's why I wouldn't eat done because you could oh you know it you'll make your cram

You get a cramp. That's a lot. We ain't get no cramped that young, huh? We love kids. We look kids. If you ate something, you couldn't get back in the pool. Right. For like 30 minutes.

Oh, no, I ain't, man. I think that's a myth. It is a myth. Hey, when you grew up, y'all ain't had a candy lady house? Yeah. Well, that was in Glenville. We didn't have a candle lady where we are because I lived in the country. But, uh, Sister Tillman.

She had a twin twin son James and John Right Their mom You know So candy So the The Kool-Aid ice and stuff like that

You know what I'm saying Yeah Man we had the candy Hey Right down 51 and 12 Right down 50 first or 12 Right down 50 first book Right on the corner

Across Street from Kelly Park Right The quarter cookies Right The quarter cookies Remember they had strawberry And she had vanilla And she had

Austin baked beans You know about Boston baked beans You know about Boston baked beans? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And lemon heads. Yeah. Oh my God.

Hold on. I used to like the planks. She had the planks too. You remember the planks? With the ice it. The plank, they had like ice it. They were like a short bread cookie, but they had icing on it. Like, look up plain.

Plank. Hold on. Please tell me your candy lady had the frozen cups in the little Dixie cup. The frozen cups. Yeah. Oh my God. Yes. Absolutely.

Go back. Hold on and you get back. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Put that up so Ocho can see what I'm talking about. Absolutely. And you had them a thing called Black Cow. You remember the, they were like chocolate. But I'm telling you, if you had a loose tooth,

you're going to pull it out. Oh, it's coming out. It's coming out. Boy, look here. Yeah. And I tell you what, what stop me, Mary Jane. Man, I was, I'll never forget this, Ocho. I was sitting in, I was, this had to be like 1993.

yeah and uh billy thompson who's the player uh used to be our community guy man he had he had a mayor jays i went there got him because i'm about to go to me no choo and you know i'm sitting there we watch it feel right i'm chewing but i run my i run my tongue like my teeth both to be ah i'm like i don't feel no teeth they're right there oh joe okay okay okay okay okay But I think I hate me, I need a place. I need the place, man. Hey, hold on. You know what else I used to do? I think the candy lady used to buy them in bulk. Yes. Hold on.

The lawn and dooms. You know about the lawn of doom? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Boy, East Lawn a doom cookie. It might have been maybe 10 cent, maybe five. I knew it wasn't a quarter.

No, it might have been a quarter. Back then, jokes were a penny. Like, you go to the corner store, you go to the convenience store, and they had big jars sitting up on a thing. Yeah. With different types of cookie. And the cookies were a penny. Yeah.

So, you know, the little short bread cookies or whatever the case may be. Right. And then, you know, you had the giant pinwheel cookies. Right. But, man, Ocho, that goddamn Mary Jane, them pull out half. Hey. Hey, them's some good day. That's memories.

Yeah, boy. Hey, I put my hand up like this here, like I was in the church. Right. I say, I'll be back. Man, Ocho, they call me to my way, where you go? Ocho, I would slap to the dentist. yeah right away right away come hey man you know hey you know how we are we going to clown you oh yeah if they saw that oh no but oh cho but you're right those those were the good old

old days but on the they had those uh cookies right penny cookies on the on the counter they had those pickled eggs like you talking about on the counter and they had pig feet you remember they had the pig feet with them tall so you had that wax paper yes yes hold on hold on please tell me y'all had hot sauces yeah oh my goodness man and you know what a choo back then when i was when i was eating old hot dog it's something about them convenience store hot dogs ain't it's so much better i don't know i don't know what it is i go home and like granny why your hot dogs don't taste like that exactly i don't know what it is george about it's the roller well damn grady should have bought a roller instead of dumping 50 in a big old pot yeah you know about

you know what hold on y'all y'all had cheese Chico sticks? Yeah. Yeah. What about Lily Dilly? No, I don't know. What's that? And them Chico sticks.

Oh, yeah, the Chico sticks. Oh, yeah. The Chico sticks now. They like that. But sometimes I like, when I used to drive home from Atlanta, I was going to Glenville. I would stop, you know, making, or I stopped in Dublin at a convenience store to see, you know, see what type of old Charleston Chews. See what type of old candy that, you know, old candy they got. you know getting and you know because like you said it reminded me of what i was growing up now here

i am in my 30s and 40s um but yeah man um who there was a good old day though oh my i mean a pen i mean man hey boy don't let me get no money a quarter man look here with a quarter we walk two miles because of the store the closest store was for two miles right a dollar if we got a dollar yeah you you gone go I'd never forget that ice cream truck on. Oh, yeah. But ice cream with a quarter, like an ice cream sandwich? Ice cream sandwich.

Oh, man, I get the ice cream sandwich. You get two crispy cream donuts. You get a honey bun, warm it up in a mic. Oh, the nutty buddy? Man, oh, my God. Nutty buddy, I mean, once you kind of ate the crunch off the top of it, I mean, you, you got a little ice cream with a cone in it. And then, I remember that when they were. came out with that superstar remember they came out with that superstar the red white and blue ice

cream ice cream yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i remember that but it was a day man it was a day hey boy i could i couldn't wait for p e because you know that's the only time you get ice cream you get to go you go before you go out a quarter you know you go get you know get your ice cream you know once a once a week you know we got a greater would give us a quarter give me a spake a quarter or something or you know I don't know what happens sometimes quarters just followed me out of greatest room I've been quarters had legs

I don't you don't know how they just walk up and jump in my pocket oh them ate them some good at oh my God how did I forget this y'all ain't y'all ain't had mango trees where you from I'm not sure we have no mango trees we had fig we had grape we had uh uh plums

them. Yeah. We had pears. Man, I used to get the fig Newton from the candy lady house, but then they also sold in a Ziplog bag. You could buy mangoes, right? With the salt and vinegar already on the mangoes. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, we had, and we had huckleberries.

You know, obviously we had blueberries. But those, man, look here, man. Those, whoo. Man, I don't really eat pears like that anymore, because I hate so much of them. Right. And you talk about to tear your stomach up? Pears.

Yeah, I like pears and plums. Pears and plums. Pairs and plums were. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, hey, man, I had a procedure a couple of months ago, Ocho. Yeah. And, you know, they give you the anesthesia. You know, you'd be backed up.

Right. I say, Shelly. Go give me some chocolate milk. and give me two apples. That's it? I ain't, oh, Joe, guess what? I ain't really want nothing but to peel. I ain't need nobody to peel.

Right. That chocolate milk? Yeah. About 30 minutes. Oh, you was clean. Clean you right out? What? Like a 57 Chevy.

You're not able to car burn clean and that number of water be coming out of the exhaust. Yeah. So you can't drink coffee and nothing like that. Oh, no. What?

Look here, I can drag it if I'm sitting on the toilet. They're going to go straight through me. I don't fool with no coffee, man. I don't really, I don't even, like I said, like that warm tea. Right. Like I used to drink that warm tea. Right. Man, I got tired of getting up in the middle of the night.

Hey, I had about three, four cups of coffee a day. I can't go without my coffee. But I'm too, but I'm too, I'm too high strong anyway, oh, Cho. right I'm too high strong I can't I can't I can't fool with stuff like that but every I like I know what works with me right like we going through the airport and I'm like yeah now now let me leave that alone right right right damn yeah yeah a me and me and time be doing commercial together he got oh he got on small the pins I got on big depends blow it up you know hey do do do do do do that

I'll fool with that stuff. But look, I learned how he's laughing. I remember if you're from the Atlanta area, you know Eton, there's this camp called Rock Eagle. And I never forget. It was,

my grandma scraped up. I think she might have borrowed the money from Mr. Joe and Ms. Joanne. $35 to go away from the week. You left Monday morning and you came back Friday afternoon. But anyway, Ocho, so it's $35. dollars and you put down the activities that you wanted to do like if you could swim like you could do canoeing and you could do all this other stuff you could do archery you know but the first year we I went um my son I couldn't swim so my sister like I think I was like the fourth grade my sister signed me up for something and I see man all my friend because it came pool time and then all my friends I see Grady kicklider Ricky Blanton semi uh semi driggers walter everybody in the pool man I'm like Ocho, I got my face, I got my feet in the wirefish like this

and I'm looking. I'm just looking. I'm just looking. It's like, Shannon, come on in. I'm like, I don't know how to swim. Oh. It's like, just jump in. I'm like, you know, Craig, what the hell is that?

I'm like, did y'all not hear what I said? I said, I can't swim. Yeah. They're talking about, we'll teach you. So you know, Ocho, I come on in there. Right. I said, well, okay, so I'm thinking I'm like, they're going to give me some lessons.

to say okay you do this or you do that right they say we're jumping I say well how you teach me they said look jump it go on the diving board they didn't put me in the little kid here it's wait you went to the deep end Ocho I get jump they said jump off the diving board they say if you drown we'll save you oh Joe my dumb ass Hey, I know they're not watching this, but Rock Eagle, that's why I learned how to swim. So I jumped in up, it was 13 feet. I jumped in.

Yeah. They say, see, you can swim. I'm like, I don't really think that's swimming what I did, but okay. Hey, boy, listen, black folk play too many games. If somebody's there to save you, it'd be just somebody to look, you jump in there and they're sitting there laughing and Kiki and ha-ha-in. Yeah.

And you mess around and drown. Boy, I don't play. But, hey, we had, I mean, I mean, for the most part, this is a small Glenville ain't that big. Right. Most of the guys, we're in the same, we're in the same home room.

So we're in the same class. We know, we, I've been knowing them. Right. Since I went to kindergarten, you say kindergarten, kindergarten, we say kindergarten. But I've been notable, Ocho, I went up there, jumped off and been swimming, been learned, basically taught myself.

I can't swim like Michael Phelps, but I can save myself. Yeah. But man, those were the days, Ocho, man. The thing that you know, like, I be thinking about the man I'll be talking to my brothers I said man you remember that you remember we did mm-hmm hey don't y'all go jump don't y'all go down there and go swimming in the clay hole what we do go right down there go swimming in the clay hole I say boy just out look if something would have if something would have happened to us Papa would have killed all the rest of us

yeah because I would have had to been the one because I was the youngest ohcho right so I would have been I would have been the one that they pushed up to tell Papa what happened. Because obviously, you know, I'm the youngest by two years. So it's me, then it's Lanny, then it's my brother, then it was Eugene, rest of his soul, and then it was Arneill. Arneill is the oldest on my, on my, on my mom's side of the grandkids, my sister's the older than me, Arnell was seven years older than me, Eugene was six years older to me, Spanky's three years older to me, Lany's two years older to me.

Right. Those are the boys. And then we had Robbie and Bernard, who was our second cousin. That's granny and my grandma. That's her sister's son, kids, animate, rest of soul. So Robbie is six years younger to me, older to me. And Bernard is four years older to me. So I'm the youngest way, way young. And my dad, my grandfather died. I was, I was eight. So you know what I'm saying? So obviously they teenagers. So anytime they need they wanted something, hey, go ask Papa or go ask they would say go ask Uncle Barney Well, you know, Ocho, I go ask, but he'll go cause you something. I just can't go. Right, right, right, right, free? What y'all got? Man, my brother told a story. Ocho, you hear him tell the story? Man, he cut me. He cut me on my leg. It's a little ass. I don't want y'all see this. But he cut me on my, but he cut me on my, He cut me on my leg, Ocho. But when he didn't tell, what I didn't tell y'all, I didn't tell y'all the full story.

And I apologize. He cut me on the leg. I put on two pair of jeans and a pair of short. He was sharpening his knife, a wet rock. I know you don't know what that is, but that's how you sharpen things. In the country, we call it a wet rock. And we put three and one oil on it,

or we put something to get it and sharpen the knife. And he's like, man, he read his, run his finger across. He said, I think it's sharp. I said, I don't know, Speck. I don't think it's that sharp. He said, yes, yes, Shannon, it's really sharp. So, man, that joke would hit me with that blade, Don't Joe?

Yeah. Woo. But you know, it started burning. It started tingling. I said, ooh. Ooh, oh, you got me. So I look back there, I say, it's bleeding. I said, uh-oh.

Oh, Josh, I said, uh-oh. I'm going to tell Papa. Oh, Joe. So I tell him, he's like, I said, man, look here, man. How much money you got? So he had like, hold on, Ocho, hold on, Ocho. I got to tell you. I got to tell the whole story.

I said, how much money you got? Oh, Joe, he had like, he had like three silver dollars. He had like a $2. Yeah. So he ended up giving me like $5. So I got the $5. And I was thinking, I got to cut you back. So I cut him. He let me cut it. He let me cut it. Well, he let me let me. Or I would go get the five. I get the money and tell Papa anyway. Yeah. I cut him. I cut him across his wrist. Right here. He still got his car. but that's that's funny but he cut me first and then oh joe well look here we we were we were i don't know how we became so close because boy we got to kill each other oh joe yeah grown up grown up that made me mad one day oh joe no you don't know about the country but if you're from

if you're from the country and you're from the south or you from texas or somewhere you know the pick for kids right oh yeah yeah yeah i know about the pick for the hay yeah oh cho that joker made me man yeah I stuck the pickfork in his leg. Right? Ocho, I stuck in his leg and I froze. You know what that joke was dead?

What? Pull it out and stuck it in my leg. I don't know why I froze, Ocho. If I could have just took up running and he couldn't have got me. But I froze. Because I think. I think my like, I'm like, damn, I did that.

You, you, wait, you, you, you, wait, you, you, you ain't sticking hard, though, huh? Oh, it went in, yeah. Oh, yeah, it went in. I don't know why I froze on you. I could, I could, I could, I could have ran, I could have ran and got to wait. It better not to run. Go ahead and take your punishment right down. He was going to get you one way or another.

Yeah, man. But that's funny, that way. Ocho, you ever played, man? We used to play, like, who could hit the softest. I fall for, I mean, I fell for this thing like four times before I caught on. So you know, Ocho, like, okay, we're going to punch in the arm and see who can hit the softest. Right. So, you know, he's like, you go first.

So I was like, Ocho, then he was like. I was like. Oh, Joe, by the third time, that Joe, go, I lost. I said, what the dude? What the . Oh, Joe, he told me like three or four times before I was like, hold on. You ain't trying to win.

Right. Oh, we do, hey, man, look here. That you used to beat me down, Ocho. He didn't let nobody else pick on me. Right. Man. Wow, that's clever. I'm going to get it.

John Randall says he used to not shower before games. During an interview with Marshawn Lynch, Bismo went on to talk about how O'Live on his team peed on himself before the first snap of every game. What's the wildest opponent story like this, Ocho, you have? Oh, that's a good one. I'm Jake Hofer, and this is Back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eater. Podcast Network. Each episode, I'll be asking eight wide-tail hunting pros, a focused, thought-provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less

than ideal access? Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand. Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Get fired up, y'all. Season two of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just Welcome to one of my favorite people and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapino to the show, and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, co-hosting a podcast with her fiancé Sue Bird, watching former teammates retire and more.

Never a dull moment with Pino. Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete? The final. The final. And the locker room. I really, really, like, you just can't replicate, you can't get back. Showing up to locker room every morning just to shit talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker

and college superstar AZ Fudd. I mean, seriously, y'all. The guest list is absolutely stacked for season two. And, you know, we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports.

Damn, I ain't got nothing that crazy, huh? All the linemen, I mean, everybody knows Stink would tell you stink would pee on himself. You know what I hate, Ocho, them linemen, they make themselves throw up. And you know it's a gag reflex. You hear that in the bathroom. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. I'm like, come on, man, damn. Yeah, I'm trying to think because, I'm sure, I'm sure, obviously the linemen did some crazy stuff back then.

We had a guy on our team, Ocho, named Darren Drozdof, rest his soul. He ended up getting, he was, he came, he returned, became a professional wrestler. He ended up breaking his neck paralyzing himself. And he ended up passing away. Ocho, he could throw up on command. You could be, hey, you could be standing there talking to him, talking to him just like you and I having a conversation. Right, right.

Like, Drozdof, throw up. Yeah, I mean, he, he, got control he got control of his of the most he threw up on the he threw up on he was a he was a uh the nose guard he threw up on the ball yep why's gonna have i know john will hot right no he was he was on the opposing team oh oh oh but he was a line with the offensive lineman them joke is there they crazy they got some weird they got they got they gotta be like that just in the locker room or around the ain't no way because you know most of the office of linemen they got like

three four five kids ain't no way y'all like this at home right right right y'all nasty a locker junkie wow y'all funky I said oh oh drunk coming in drunk you can smell it in a little but yeah but yeah but the office of limba yeah but stink was in the for peeing on themselves I mean we used to pee on the sidelines you know I'm saying because you know get a little towels training you got a little towel you got the training trunks you just just lean the eight just just go in the bag literally y'all know you all know you're doing hmm I think oh I remember the days but I

but I had to take I mean I took a hour before I you know because I did contrast I did hot cold hot cold hot cold I did it you know yeah I did it before the game as well okay so we mentioned earlier bills running back James Cook have agreed to a four-year $48 million extension and that slots him right there with Josh Jacobs and basically you know or it's 11.5 actually it's 11.5 so Sequin is still the highest paid at almost 21. And then you got C-MAC, D. Henry, Jonathan Taylor, Alma Camara at 12-250, Josh Jacobs at 12 million.

And then you got James Cook at 11.5. That I felt that that slot, Ocho, between 11 and 13, where he would land. Right. So I thought it was. Look, it's more than what he was going to make, which was probably a million, two million dollars. Right.

So he can't be, it can't be mad. he got he got money that's that'll set him up for his boy's for his career for its future 30 million guarantee you straight not not to say that's all he's going to make right because he's young he can't be what he 23 24 so that go ahead try to get you a goodly a 10 year bid you straight good but congratulations James he was on earlier this year old show reptile see we talked to him about it like hey I need to get broken you know i need to get broken off with my bread hey so forth the soul yada yada yada and they took care of him you got it he got it now yeah oh man robbers broke into the home of

texas hall of famer he's the first texan in the pro football hall of fame andre johnson ransacked his house stealing multiple valuable items including his hall of fame ring it happened in late july and uh an active police investigation it's currently ongoing. And Houston? Yeah. Let me ask you question. I mean, y'all going to fence this?

I mean, what pawn shop? You ain't trying to put your thumb down on no pawn shop. Listen. You got to give up that thumb at the pawn shop. There are people. There are people. They'll fence it. Listen, no, I'm talking about buying.

I'm talking about buying. Man, I think he's going to get his stuff back. Yeah. He's going to get his stuff back. Joe Burrow got his back. Keanu Reeves got his back. I ain't got mine back. Yeah.

Listen, Drey know the right people that whose eyes and ears are to the street, he's going to get his stuff back. Guarantee you, he's going to get it back. Yeah, he's getting that back. Man, Ocho, I was reading the story about J. Paul Getty, the oil tycoon. Right.

Like Getty, like Getty Museum in L.A.? Yeah, yeah, that's him, Jay Paul. Okay. Ocho, his grandson got kidnapped. I think it was in Italy. Yeah. If I was reading the story. I ended up seeing them.

I saw the movie. But I forgot it. They ended up kidnapping his son and holding his son for ransom, his grandson for ransom. And he didn't want to deal with him. Because, so he ended up. I think it was, I think it was like $2 million because that was the max deductible at the time. And then he loaned his son 800,000 at 4%.

Okay. He said, if I paid the full ransom, I would have 14 kidnapped grandkids. Wait, huh? Bring that to me again. They kidnapped his grandson. he said if he paid every ransom guess what's going to happen oh he started kidnapping all of his great kids oh that's tough that's tough I hate that because I talked to I was just you know I was just at the hall and I saw Drake talk to him

man I like Drake I didn't really get an opportunity to Ocho because I was leaving as he was coming in right and so I didn't really get an opportunity to spend time with him but you know being we did the road show in Houston and being at the hall I like him a lot man he's real down the earth he a chill brother I like him as a matter fact he was at the table he was at the table would be at my brother at the hall but the thing is that like when you you were you were an inductee new right you don't get to talk into the nisky lunching so you just got to sit there and watch us talk and then you know sap is at the table because you know sap talking the whole while yeah but uh it was good man

sorry to hear that dray hopefully hopefully you get everything back he'll get it back trust me Lamar jackson has officially dropped his trademark case against troy eggman over the number eight per the baltimore son lamar filed a lawsuit against eggman last year said it caused confusion to customers who are looking to buy his apparel it's just hard because so many people have eight yeah isn't ellen alexandobetian eight yeah oh v is eight

Oh, we're eight. I got in Jersey. You got, you got this, Steve Young. Eight. Kobe was eight. Numbers are hard. Now, if you talk about Gretzky or something like that, maybe something like Gretzky. Right. But I think Derr Earnhardt Jr. was eight.

Wasn't Daryl, Earnhardt Jr. eight? Yep, eight. The number eight car, yep. Yeah, it's numbers are hard. Now, if you want to say a phrase, you know, three Pete, Pat Riley has that, three Pete, you You know what I'm saying? There are certain things, but a number is hard. Yeah.

But he's dropped the suit, just missed with prejudice. Officials will be cracking down on faking injuries during the college football season, The National Football Foundation announced today that to combat the active players, faking injuries to stop the game clock beginning this season. If a player on the field presents as injured after the ball is spotted for next play, the player's team will be charged a timeout. If the team does not have any timeouts remaining, a five-yard delay of game penalty will be assessed.

Yeah, well, that tactic is out the window. For coaches that like to use that tactic to their advantage, now you can no longer do it. Yep. The player also must remain out of the game for at least one down, even if that team is granted a timeout and may not return until receiving approval of a medical professional.

Ocho, do you like this new rule? Yeah, I like it. I like it. It gets rid of the rhetoric that goes on in college games. The game of the stuff. Yeah, to buy itself more time to do whatever it is you may need to do. I mean, I like it. Whatever they need. Because we see, they'll tell him, go down, go down, go down.

Mm-hmm. And so now, look, and I get it, you know, sometimes guys, you know, might be hurt. Well, if you seriously hurt, if you're seriously hurt, they don't need to tell you to go down. When the last time you see somebody really hurt themselves and they're like, go down? No, they're going to go down. If you really hurt. You're going to go down. You're exactly.

So I'm so, I like this rule. I like it because, look. just like anything it's a copycat league and so once somebody did saw that what happened you could stop it everybody else do it

it's the same thing Ocho with when the defense used to like back set sound like said hut now that caused you a penalty yep

right away no more cheating who Cristiano Ronaldo got engaged recently Ocho yeah did you see what he put on her finger Yeah, I saw it.

I saw it. I saw it. Lord of mercy. I mean, estimates of $5 million. Yeah. Listen, that's a nice ring. I think that's one that you're not going to wear everywhere. But to make it as a state.

Why not? He got security everywhere. Yeah, but I just, I don't know. She ain't taking that off with you. I'm sorry. That's a little gaudy. I think she'll probably have some smaller. Yeah, a little ostentatious.

Yeah, yeah. Little, little very goddy, a very, very Elizabeth Taylorish. Taylorish you say look I don't been by I don't been by this man for this many years yeah what they got three three boys right no they got three boys don't you I thought it was I think it's three boys and a girl they got more I think I'm not mistaken it's four yeah that's good God of body yeah man that A don't y'all Runtale y'all boy don't y'all go showing this to y'all husband but y'all husband and boyfriend they ain't got bread like that ain't a man make two or that mayn make a quarter bill

a year it's different oh cho uh what they say he make 3.4 million a week yeah a week three point four million dollars a week that's huge congratulations christiana rinaldo and Georgina. Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to Dallas Sunday, right? What's in Dallas? You're playing a big, little big three, big, big three, uh, celebrity game. Tell us about it. So Ice Cube, obviously, I think Michael Beasley's team is playing. I'm not, I'm not sure who they're playing. They're playing somebody, but I'm, I'm focused on the celebrity game.

You know, it's me on my team is me. Hold on. I just had it, too. Who are my team? Me, Hezegod. You know Hezegad, right? You don't watch basketball like that, huh? Mm-mm.

All right. Me, Hezegod, Waka, Flaka, Cam Patterson, Mo Motivator, and our coach is Clyde Drexler. Okay. And Ice Cube team is Gilly, Wallo, Des Bryant. Oh, y'all might get cooked. Lucy and Simba.

So listen, I'm like, I'll be doing all this talking, you know, I'm an exquisite basketball player. So I don't start a training down in Miami, you know, just to get my muscle remmy back. And so I think it might have been D-WA trainer. So I've been, if on Instagrams and people in the chat, you go look at Remy Workouts on Instagrams. And Remy and Julie and they've been helping me out get myself better prepared for Sunday. So when I go out there and when we talk about. The show and what I do in this game, and I drop 22, 10, and 9, I don't want to hit no excuses.

There's going to be, there's going to be footage. It's on CBS so you can watch me play on. Adds. So, you know, I do all that talking, and I'm going to see Michael Beasley in person. But y'all will get cooked. Nah, man, man, listen, not with me. It's me. You ain't ever seen me who?

Mm-mm. Okay. Now, I might not be as good as you when to come to talking it. And understanding the game, when they come to playing, I could, listen, I could probably, honestly, I'm not even playing, I'm, I could probably come off the bench right now for the heat. Right now. Interesting. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't need to. Don't set me no screens. I'm calling for ISO every time. I'm a three level score. I'm a three level score, huh? You do realize those guys that's on the bench are really, really good. good. Oh, yeah, they good. They good. I was with him. Listen, let me tell you who was there today,

Un. Jay Rich was in there getting shot-ups. Forron, for Ron, um, man, was one player from the Knicks. Corrin Button? No, no, no. Foran, was it Hunt? I think Farron Hunt. Then the player that that played with the Knicks. God, damn, I forget these dudes names. Uh, Jeff Green. Jeff Green was in there. Jeff, uh, working out. And so once they- Jeff was with the Rockets last year. Yeah, yeah, Jeff, hey, man, man, them boys tall as hell, man. Jesus Christ. So, you know, I was in there, I was in there getting my work in. I'm in there every day.

I leave here Sunday morning. I'm going to go out there, drop by 20. Good luck. I don't need no luck, man. I don't need no look. Listen, when you prepare, it's like Shador. He got his opportunity. You saw what he did, right?

So what you think I'm going to do? also sometimes the happiest couples post the least couples who post each other excessively on social media are three times more likely to break up within two years research from personality and social psychology bulletin shows that oversharing your relationship online can be linked to insecurity not intimacy psychologists call it relationship broadcasting using public attention to mask private uncertainty psychologically. It raises the question, Ocho, are you sharing joy or performing for it? If love is real, it doesn't need

to, it doesn't need a constant audience. She says who? You're three times more likely to break up in two years. She and me, you'll break up regardless whether you post or not. See, I love the way you frame it because you post

constantly. So I love how you're going to bring up college. Do you break up? I mean, I mean, that's life in general, whether you post or not. I mean, statistically, when you're together with someone, most of the time. Let me ask you a question. Let me finish. Let me finish.

Go yeah, I'm going to hear this. So the longer you're together, most of the time, if you and that individual are evolving, nine times out of 10 when you grow, they grow the opposite way. Most of the time, it's just. How long, though? They said within, you're going to three times, three times more likely. So if you're going to break up, you're three times more likely to break up. Right. Within two years.

Oh, well, you know, all my relationships are six years or longer. So I bet that's, that's wrong. And I post every motherfucking thing. Oh, my bad. My bad. But at the end of the question again, public attention, private uncertainty. I don't know about that. I'm just the people that studied.

But here's, hey, listen, you're going to break up here. Well, let me ask your question, Ocho. You're going to die eventually. We all going to do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you get in the car and drive 200 miles an hour? Me? Yeah.

No. Why not? You're going to die eventually anyway, so. Oh, no, no. I'm speaking statistically. I'm not talking about me. No, I'm saying statistically. You're going to die statistically.

100%. Well, that's 100%. A relationship, 100% that you're going to die. 100% that you're going to break up. But it's 100% Chad Ocho Seco Johnson will meet his You just said a study was done, right? That study was done? Yes. A study was done. That's where they got their statistics from. Yes. Studies also show that 99% of the people that get together, whether they post or not, they break up. Not 99% Ocho. I mean, that's what studies at Harvard. That's with the studies at Harvard.

They don't know 99%. Yeah, Google me. I thought the study at Harvard. You get them, you get up there with a, uh, uh, uh, the pill. Contraception, you get a, that man say 9 to that. Hey, I don't know, I know who not breaking up though. Me? I will take your word for it, don't you?

Me, my fact, man, um, you know, I'm, I'm getting married. Are you coming to the wedding? I'll, I'll be there. Okay, are we going to, we're going to the court. The outfit that I have, the outfit, never mind. Yeah, no, yes. We use the same outfit. We're going to go to the courthouse.

Oh, you're going to the courthouse? That we're going to court house. I ain't got time for that. I ain't got time for that. We'll do a big wedding later. Okay, well, hey, just let me know it. I'll shoot down there. Okay, okay.

I'll shoot down there. I'll stand in there. I'll be a witness. All I appreciate that. Appreciate that. All I need is one witness before I sign. Man, why I got the, why I got to. But then the story will be Shunning Sharp in Miami secretly weds.

Bro, I'm down here to just, I just die of support by two hosts. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Now we can, we can double it up. No, we can't. I can marry, you get married. That's a beautiful. story. That's a beautiful story. So what's you think? You want to do it? I don't think that's never been done before. What? Like two people get married at the same time. Yes,

it's been done before. I mean, there probably there was a situation, what was that? What Asian country was that in? With the Korea, where they had like a thousand, two thousand, two thousand people all got married at once damn for real yeah the Guinness book of world record we're a largest wedding well hold on well it isn't me and you

it wasn't uncle Ocho uncle Ocho married headlines boom out the game waving the white flag game over South Korea how many people were family 35000 couples got married

in South Korea at once Okay, okay. Matter of fact, we can get, we're going to go to Cambodia. And we're going to have a Cambodian wedding, huh? That's what your people from? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to go? No, I don't. We fly free.

I mean, I mean, every since, you know, I would kind of been turned off with Cambodia since I read about Pol Pot. Who's Pol Pot? Don't worry about it. Is it bad or good? He was bad. Yeah, I'll tell me the story on Palpat. Ash, looking to be like, ooh.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know about Popat. Don't worry about it, don't you. But you got, I mean, your people from Cambodia, does she go home much? You know what? That's a good question. Not really.

It's been a minute. That's a long flight, huh? Yeah. It's just that history thing that. Oh. A long time ago, the Pau Pot? Huh? I was.

Oh, Joe, look at these photos. This is a statement. This isn't snow. It's spider season in Australia, referring to the phenomenon as mass ballooning, where numerous spiders release silk threads to float through the air, often creating a blanket-like appearance resembling snow.

This event typically seen in late summer and early autumn is a natural way for spiders to disqual to disembate. first and migrate. While it might seem like snow, the snow is actually silk thread spun by spiders, a harmless natural occurrence. That is so beautiful.

That's beautiful. You know what's funny? I don't know, Chad. I don't know your age. Look at that. They remind me an arachnophobia. Remember the movie arachnophobia? You didn't see that? That's crazy. I mean, just when you think you've seen it all

are you in awe of animals and insects or whatever the case may be, they surprise you. Well, not. Because you know it ain't nothing worse than walking into a spider wheel. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you don't expect it.

Yeah, but that's, hey, I think that's what we need to do in the offseason. Well, football season, we need to go to Australia. No. for the insects that we don't have here at our disposal. I think we need to go out there. Bro, Australia got at least five or six of the most dangerous snakes in the world. That's what we need to hunt.

The western, the Taipan, the inland Taipan, the Palmer Brown, I won't know part of that. They got all these spiders, nah. Hey, you know it would be fun? If we go find kangaroos and fight kangaroos. No, you go ahead. I ain't kangaroo Jack. No, but can you know kangaroos, they throw they set up. maybe oh yeah I mean I look if I go to Australia I ain't really trying to go to the

outback why not for what oh it's about it's you don't want to have fun you don't want I'm gonna have fun at the Sydney Opera House who's performing at the Sydney Opera House that's what I want to know huh who performing at the Sydney Opera House okay now we're talking night now we talking you didn't night now you speak in my name really trying I ain't really trying to, I ain't really trying to be out there with no dangerous. I ain't really trying to be out there with them dangerous names. Well, since you mentioned opera, let's go to Puerto Fino and go see Andrea Pachelli. When?

Well, I was supposed to go on the 22nd of July, but I couldn't. I was, I was tied up. But, you know, I've seen, hey, listen, I've seen Andrea Pachelli. Every year for the past 70 years, he just came back. at where the Florida Panthers play. Normally it's Valentine's. So this year, I went, I went solo.

Which one, which one is like going down? Is it Bocelli or Blanche or Paucelli? Pavarotti passed away. Passed away. Okay, so it's Mochelli that's going. Andrea Pachelli, yeah. Hey, in person, Unk.

Boy, unbelievable. Unbelievable, man. And I've seen him every, every year. I ain't, I ain't missed them a year. except COVID messed everything up. But now he's back, he's back coming again. And I was supposed to go the 22nd of July in Puerto Fino.

I heard Puerto Fino is nice. Oh, you can never, see, now we can do that too. We can go to Puerto Fino. We can go to Australia. We can do all the stuff. That's on the opposite side of the world. Maybe somebody go to Italy and then go to Australia.

You know how far Australia years from here? Yeah, I know about 18 hours. But listen, I told you, I got the TVU camera pack. right you see what kasa not them be doing yeah me and you can do that around the world in the off season like for the old folks you know so you we're gonna get joy we're gonna get joy to film us doing that huh yeah exactly at jordan jordan jr could jordan hear me yeah jordan you know how to work the tv u backpack he's a you know how to work the tv you back backpack yeah yeah man i'm telling you Man, we can make a hit.

It could be like our own little show. We could travel, have fun. We could do, we go running with the bulls. I'm not running nothing. Well, you just stand in and film me. Watch me. Okay. I let Joy do it.

I'll be. I'm going to be at the end. I'm going to be sitting up on the fence. Hey, we could do bullfighting. You can watch me bullfight. Oh, Lord of mercy. This man will get gore. Sure, I'm sitting here.

I'm good. tell you, man. I'm telling you. Me and you is must-see TV. Then we can go country. We can go in the country. You can teach me how to hunt. I don't love him. I'm telling you. Okay. I got you. Yeah. All right. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. That'd be fun, man. Got so many ideas. Ice trade 23 said love the show. y'all always put me on game with knowledge y'all drop. Ocho, I can pick you up from the airport in Dallas if you need a ride.

Oh, hey, listen, if send me a DM on Instagrams. I know Unk don't really like when I get rides from people, but listen, I'm not paying for the Uber because why would I get it? Why would I get in an Uber and they're going to charge me 60 bucks just to get somewhere when you could pick me up, we can go grab a bite deed and we could talk football, and boom, it's perfect. I made a new friend. And, I mean, you're not going to kidnap me.

why I was you kidnapped me. I don't have nothing to offer. So I like that, man. See me a DM, pick me up, man. And that's love. I appreciate that. Hey, hold on, Uncle, before you go, hey, remember?

What? Hey, chat. Y'all remember, what was that Chicago? Cincinnati, were you? No, when you got mad at me for getting picked up in her, for having somebody. Was that Chicago or Cincinnati?

Chicago. It was Chicago. Yeah. Oh, my good. That was so funny. Hey, Chuck, you remember when Uncle's man? No, it wasn't that you got picked up is that he locked the keys and you signed there and waited for it.

Oh, you're getting picked up as one thing because if you got picked up made it on time, I don't care about that. But you sitting there waiting for the tow truck. Like you got locked. Hey, now hop in an Uber. Hey, that was so funny. But I didn't want to hop in Uber and leave him and he took,

he went out his way to come pick me up. So I was like, you know, hey, we in this together. I'm going to get in trouble, but it is. Hey, that was funny. That night, boy, that was fun. need. Jay is Cal. You said the quarterback

is the most important player on the field since he touches the ball on every single play. Does that mean the center is also the most important player on the field?

How many past have you ever seen the center complete? How many times you ever see the center hand the ball off? Come on, Jay. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said,

fam, I've been rocked with y'all so long. I'm running out of questions to ask. But don't worry, I'm still here every night, showing love and supporting. Doc, we appreciate that. We know we can count on you, Doc. Even when you don't get a question in, we know you watch it.

Aaron John said, hey, Unc and Ocho, as an Eagle fan, your door's best comparison to me is Jalen Hertz. He's got the proper passing training, training, and now look at it. I don't think he's as athletic as hurts. Not as fast. We'll see. Jalen has improved so much

throwing the football. You look at him from where he got to Alabama and you look at him where he ended in Oklahoma and you look at where he started in the league and you look at him now. So you know what? If Shadour can improve like Jalen Hurst has, I don't think he'd be disappointed.

My question is, who do you have winning defensive player of the year? Early pick you as well, Locho. Who's winning defensive player of the year? This year? Yep. I know who's running rookie defensive player of the year. You go over with Tram?

No, Abdul Karth. You're going to Abdul Karter. You're going to do Abdul Karter. Absolutely. Now, defensive player of the year, that's a good one. It's probably going to be a defense end. Yep. You're going to be Miles Garrett.

You want Micah. I was just going to say it. You want TJ. I say maybe TJ Water or Miles Garrett. Yeah. Maybe Miles. This might be Miles Garrett's year, though. Again, he won it two years.

years ago or tj what one of the other unless somebody comes out the blue and i want micha to win it but it i would like to see i would like to see micha get paid yeah but if he doesn't get paid i want him to win defensive player the year right and get 50 million oh i like it uh free game McZavia, a, uh, when you're going to acknowledge

the tribal chief and get him on club, uh, club, uh, uh,

Roman reigns, right? I think that's the tribal chief. Man, he, okay, we'll try to make that happen.

Uh, King Jip music was good, Uncan Ocho, love the show. It's the second anniversary for my wife and I appreciate the shout-out. Keep up the good work.

Well, damn, we don't know your wife's name, bro. You should put that in there, too. Hey, but happy second anniversary. Hopefully, you guys are doing something fun. Hopefully, the next two years is as eventful and fun-loving and enjoyable as the previous two. Best of luck in the future. Appreciate the support on Nightcap.

Appreciate it. That concludes. this episode of nightcap guys we apologize we probably should have just went with uh and joku right out of as soon as we got through the thing it went right to him it's late back on the east coast so

we'll try to get him back on here again um we're sorry uh that we weren't able to make that happen tonight but you know when you you're dealing with these these professional athletes and it's late back their time um we understand so uh we're sorry about that I'm your favorite unc Shannon Sharp My partner and co-host Liberty City's own

Bingles Ring of Fame honorary Madden Adjuster, that's the Pro Bowl All-Pro, that's Chad Ocho Sinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and guys do us a favor go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed tell family friends and loved ones

to do likewise. We want to thank you for your support and your continued support thanks to you all of this is possible couldn't be here without you so thank you again. Guys Guys, my Cognac, La Portier, has a new drop. This one is very personal, a limited edition release to honor my brother Sterling induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

It's not just a bottle, it's a tribute. It's a celebration of a legacy. And once they're gone, they're gone. The Hall of Fame edition is officially live. Just head over to Laporteurcconiac.com to grab yours while you still can. Don't miss a chance to own a part of history and this very, very special moment. please go follow my media company page on all of its platforms that's shay-shay media and my clothing company 84 the link is pinned in the chat thank you guys again for joining us we're back tomorrow uh same time we're back tomorrow at the same

time we'll see you tomorrow thursday yeah manana i'm jake hofer and this is back 40 a limited series show on wire to hunt part of meat eaters podcast network each episode, I'll be asking eight wide-tail hunting pros, a focused, thought-provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?

Should you, that's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand. Listen to Back 40 on Iheart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Get fired up, y'all. Season two of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just

welcomed one of my favorite people, an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapino, to the show, and we had a blast. Take a listen. Sue and I were like riding the lime bikes the other day, and we're like, we're like, people ride bikes because it's fun. We got more incredible guests like Megan in store, plus news of the day and more. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports Network. This is an IHeart podcast.