Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Travis Kelce saying Shedeur should start in Cleveland !

Episode Date: September 1, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Travis Kelce saying that Shedeur Sanders should be the starting QB in Cleveland, Calvin Ridley talks about how he’s learned from his mistakes after suspension, and the New York Giants have a demanding opening schedule this year and much more! 00:00 – Cowboys extend Da’Ron Bland01:10 – Shedeur Sanders12:25 – Calvin Ridley15:21 – Giants have demanding opening season19:25 – Mo Lewis on Drew Bledsoe32:15 – Polish millionaire out here tripping at the US Open38:10 – Buffalo Bills owner43:25 – Q & Ayyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcast. The Cowboys agree to turn with quarterback to Ron Blan, four years, $92 million with an extension of $50 million guaranteed. And, Ocho, he got, what, $20 million at the time of signing. Blan average, $23 million, makes him the six highest paid corn in the league. Blan, a one-time pro bowler, and one-time all-pro, from his nine interception 23 to 23 campaign in which he delivered a record setting

five pick sixes is part of a prolific cornerback a cornerback duo with Trayvon Diggs. He earned it. Oh yeah. He had off. You got Nick last year,

but his first year I think he had five picks. He turned around and get you a 14. He got Nick. Hey, you believe he's your guy? You got a little extra money stashed away since you didn't sign Micah. Hey, we're good. They good.

I like it. Yeah, he definitely earned that. I'm excited to see him back. I'm excited to see when Trayvon, when Trayvon Digg comes back, you know. So I think they, defensively, I'm not sure what the Cowboys going to look like, but they're going to have some bright spots at certain positions. I'm going to say it like that. They're going to have some bright spots at certain positions.

There's no conspiracies or hidden agendas with Shador Sanders' placement on the Brown's depth chart heading into the season, according to franchise legend, Joe Thomas. Thomas said the reality of the NFL draft is that you have 32 teams that all want to beat each other. And so they're not conspiring together to sabotage somebody, by the way, would be great for the league. And he's great for the league because the league wants eyeballs. They want people watching their games. They want these great personalities. And so there's no reason.

There's no reason they would be trying to conspire against him and sabotage him. Actually, the opposite. it. They want to promote a guy like that because he's great for the league and it doesn't make sense on any level. They just believe in like with the morons not being able to see this guy is a great thing since Slice Bradd, the greatest quarterback since Tom Brady. And he's ready right now to be able to elevate a franchise to the Sue Bowl all the time. We're idiots for not seeing it. I think it's a higher ceiling. I think he has a higher ceiling. He's a great playmaker. He has a tremendous accuracy. And he has that, you know, when you're in the game, how to make those big plays. but just because you have that ceiling

that's really high and the potential to be able that doesn't mean you can do it right now I like it I mean that's that's real cute from Joe Thomas obviously a Brown's legend

anybody knows anything about that organization and the way they use things it is him he has a right to his own opinion he has a right to his own opinion and sometimes his opinion will differ from others

based on what they see and what they're seeing and how they're processing how they've handled Shadour outside of that I mean we've talked about it in depth from top to bottom he made the team

I'm happy for him he's a third string quarterback I think at some point he will play will it be this year it depends on how bad things go with Joe Flacco and Dylan Gabriel

when they get their opportunities to play but I think Shadur will see the field and when that opportunity presents itself when that's a lot door opens you need to walk through that door and close it behind you yep that's that's it Travis Kelsey differs though Joe give the people what they want in terms of Browns fans

starts your door give the people what they want the world wants to see him go out there and not only play but have success at this point guys are rooting for him this isn't anything against Dylan this isn't anything against Joe I'm just saying I'm just saying the excitement is there for your door to go out there he's going to put eyes on the screen he's going to bring people to the game. Yeah. Travis looking from a different perspective. Travis from Cleveland.

Yes. I mean, obviously being from Cleveland, but he's also looking at the type of player and the excitement that he's going to bring. You're going to have people tuning in to watch Browns games. You're going to have people coming to Browns games to fill the stadium simply to see a quarterback.

You know, it's different. Every team has that guy that you're going to see or you turn the TV. you want to see every team has one maybe two you know so um i understand what travis coming from but that's not the way the business works itself that's not it's not that's not that's not it's not the way it works you're right ocho i i think um when you said like look joe flacco clearly is going to start the season the number two quarterback is uh uh delin gabra uh and if should doer is to get

it's chance. Once he gets in there, hey, take all the chairs away from the table. Can't nobody else sit at the table. Just me. Just me. It's just me. And I do think, you know, people do root for it. Yeah. Look, even if Flacco falters and they go to Gabriel,

Gabriel's was a rookie also. And he's going to struggle. He's going to make some mistakes. I think the thing is that, you know, we've seen Jane Daniels and we've seen C.J. Stride and we see some of these quarterbacks come in. They make a thing like everybody. Everybody's not going to be able to play like that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Those are isolated, and they had really good players around them. On them, yes.

They had really good players around them. They had really good play callers. And, you know, that doesn't mean whomever is in there is going to have that level of success. people just think that people just think that it's easy I mean when I first got the league man you ain't that big I probably could have played in the league oh you think that's all it takes size yeah I hear that all the time man you ain't that big okay you know I didn't you know when I fell out no job application

didn't say I had to there was it's not like the uh the amusement part there's a heightened size requirement A high requirement? Yeah. But look, what is meant to be is going to be. Yeah. It's really that simple. What is meant to be is going to be.

If it's meant for Shadour to play this season, he'll play this season. If it's not meant to be, play this season, he won't play. All I'm saying is that he should approach every practice like it's his Sunday's game. Yeah, absolutely. You have a choice. It's the only way to approach it. That's the only way you're going to prove. Those are your reps.

That's your Sunday. That's your game. Trust me, they're watching now. They're watching to see how you, how are you getting those guys on the practice squad, how you're getting those guys to play, you know, hey, come on, guys. Hey, come on, we got to make those plays. What type of look you're giving the defense, study the quarterback that you're going to be representing and give them that look.

Yeah. If that guy is a pocket quarterback, stay in the pocket. If the guy moves, you're going to have to be able to move some. You're going to have to give them as realistic of a look that they're going to see on Sunday. Oh, yeah. And sometimes you have to get out of who you actually are. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Yes.

Because, you know, that might not be your style, but your style is not going to be the style they're going to see on Sunday. So it does them no good to see, do what you do in the course of the week. And then the guy on Sunday gives them an entirely different look. But I just look to the best man when. you get out there and you do what you're supposed to do and if Flacco can hold him off he can hold him off. If Gabriel gets in and he can hold him off, he holds him off.

Shadur gets in, he can hold him off. He holds him off. But I don't want to be, you know, okay, Flacco didn't do well in five weeks. Okay, here come Gabriel. Gabriel doesn't do it for five weeks and here comes Shadoor. Shadur doesn't do well. Here come Flacco.

Oof. That may go round of quarterbacks. Yeah, but I just don't know because it's not like Joe Flacko is going to be your long-term solution. Joe Flacko's not going to be there next year I don't think anybody thinks that Joe Flacco is going to be starting

going to be in Cleveland next season so for me you might as well go one of the youngsters and keep it moving that's what's going to happen at some point if the bottom falls out at some point because once they make a change they're not going back

nor should they no once they make a change or should they so look everybody's rooting for Shadour, they want them to play, and people can't understand, you know, look,

some things are truth and fiction, the only difference between truth and fiction, fiction has to make sense. And this doesn't make sense to a lot of people, a guy that threw the ball as well as he did, the amount of touchdowns that he threw for, the low interception rate, what he was able to do at Jackson State,

what he was able to do at Colorado. Does he have some deficiency? Yes. Does he bail backwards? too much? Yes. Does he belly too much and go sideways? Yes. Does he hold on to the ball too long?

Yes. Yes, he's not perfect by no stretch of their imagination. And those are things that he's going to have to correct in order to be the type of quarterback that he wants to become. He's going to have to get better. He's going to have to, oh, Cho, I think the biggest thing he's going to have to do is to say, F my completion percentage. Because sometimes I think he's holding on to the ball

because he don't want to throw an incompletion. Wait for everything. Also, if you get sacks 65 times, who the hell cares if you got a 70% completion rate? Because there are a couple of times that you took yourself out of field goal range on those sacks. That's what happens. If you take that many sacks, there are going to be times that you're going to take yourself out of field goal range, that you potentially take points off the board. He is going to have to get better at that. And I'm sure the coaching staff is in his ear telling him,

should do or you're going to have to get better than that. You can't take these sacks. You can't put us in third and long. Keep us in second and short. Keep us in third and short. Not third and long. Keep us in field goal range. You can't take a sack when the situation clock.

Like we saw Notre Dame quarterback. Can't take a sack in that situation. Oh, you got no time out. The receiver is a way down field. So think about how long it's going to take. Think about how long that play developed. And now think about how long it's going to take those guys to get back downfield. Yeah.

you got to speed up everything you got to speed up everything and those guys are coming this is not seven on seven you know we'll get back there the pat outro mm-mm every blue moon you get one of them every blue moon but it's not often no not often at all so we'll see how plans like guess what we'll find out and then next five, six weeks, Ocho. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I know, I could tell you what's going to happen week one. I can tell you that right now.

The Brown's going to get their ass woke. Brown's going to, I'm telling you, the Bengals, the Bengals, my school 55. Hey, Chad, anybody is. I thought you said the Browns had a good defense with Denzel Ward, Miles Garrett. Oh, yeah, they got a good defense, but the Bengals still might score 55 because we got Jamar Chase. We have Joe Burrow. We have T. Higgins.

We have Chase Brown. we have a we have a very very good offensive line no you don't have no good offense don't say that we have a great restructured offensive line y'all got an okay offensive line now we have no no okay you're gonna see okay week one how many sacks miles gary gonna have against who the brown i'm against the uh the bingles this week i give me one i give him one i give him one because he's top three in the league right now i give me one outside of that that's it when he's it

He didn't give him no more than that. And anybody in the chat you want to bet, let me know. Anybody in the chat want to bet, let me know. I bet you whatever. Make it light on yourself. What the chat want to know is when you're going to pay me. Pay who? Me.

Oh, oh, man, you know I got you, Cah. You know I got you. You're my guy. You know I got you, you know. Cabin really heads in the year two with the Titans. He says he's in a much better headspace in his life. after injury and mental health journey, which included gambling, suspension, derailed his career. The suspension gave me time to rest, get physically better and mentally stronger.

After that year, I was ready to come back. Football has been a job since I was a kid. That's all I've ever did, man. I've never worked a job. I learned a lot of tools during that process. I still use those things today when it gets hard. I don't let myself go too far down. I'll flush it out the bad thoughts, refresh my mind every time I go home.

like it he admitted he made a mistake he learned from him mistake and he moved forward yeah most definitely most definitely well definitely listen I'm excited

I'm excited he can play like I said that last year in Atlanta Lord have mercy if the issues hadn't arisen with what happened he's one of those

in those conversations and we talk about top five. Yes. Yes, he was that good. Yes, he was that good. Not is, still is. Not was. Yeah.

Is that good. You know, and you're going to see it. Now you got him a nice quarterback this year too. That's going to get him the ball. All right. Yeah. No, no, no, no. He's special.

No, no, no. He's special. He can go. He won them ones. Hey, Uncle Holt, let's Kevin Rilly now. Should we be about 28? Yeah. You should have been about 28?

30. Okay. Yeah, because Kevin really was before Amaric. No, he was after coup. He was after coup. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. pride of Tennessee come see him too after this season.

They just signed him. He's the second year of a deal, Ocho. He is? Yes. Remember, that's how they got him from Jacksonville. Yeah, I don't think that was enough money, though. I mean, what do you get? Four for 92? Oh, that's what it was? I think so. At 20, oh, at 30? Okay, okay.

They might. It all depends on how much you got up front. I think, didn't he sign a four year for 92? How much to get a cab really? They gave a big number, Ocho. Yeah, okay, okay. They gave a big number, but he can play. He, he, he, he's earned it.

Yeah. He's earned it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Four for 92. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay. Okay, he good, he good, he good, he good. The Giants have a demanding opening schedule playing the commanders,

Cowboy Chiefs, and Chargers over the first four. weeks of the season. The athletic reports Russ must engineer wins against those contenders to prevent head coach Brian Dayball from benching him for rookie Jackson Dart. Giants Brass has told everyone who will listen since the draft, Russell is their unquestioned starting quarterback and the plan is first round picks to develop behind the scenes. It sounds awful familiar to 2019. The plan was for Eli to start Daniel Jones on the bench. Then Jones took over after an 0 and 2 start. And the same thing with Eli. Remember when Eli came in,

Kurt Warner was supposed to be the starter. And then what happened, Ocho? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I don't think they should rush it. I hate when the media does this. I hope the ball is patient, allowing Jackson Dart to sit back and learn,

you know, from Russell Wilson. Instead of being thrown out there to the wolves, Russell Wilson has enough talent around him offensively. they have some good pieces on defense where I think they're going to be fine. They're going to be fine. Russell Wilson. Just throw Uno the ball, baby.

That's it. Ocho. Yeah. We got commanders, Cowboys, Chiefs, Chargers. Okay, well, don't throw the Cowboys out there. Don't throw the cowboy name out there like that. Like, they're this...

This is a rivalry game. So, you know, they're the same divisions, a divisional game. So, you know, it's divisional games to go either way, Ocho. You're right. You're right. But, hey, I'm...

And the commanders is another division game, rivalry game. Really good. Chief Chargers, very unfamiliar, two AFC West opponents. I mean, dang, I don't know if I've ever heard of this. You got two division opponents, and then you got two FC West opponents. Mm-hmm. But I'm not, I think, and you and I did over, under, I said, I'm going under eight weeks for Jackson Dart. He played two great in the preseason.

And I've heard Rumlin's people say, you should just... We're talking about preseason. But I'm just so. say it. About preseason. I know, but I'm saying I've heard people say, hey, I would just roll with Jackson Dart. Oh, from jump.

From the jump, yep. If they were going to do that, they wouldn't have brought in Russell. They wouldn't have had James. I mean, there's no way. There's no way. Because there would be no point of even bringing them in if you just running, if you running the wrong. You didn't know you signed all those guys before you got Jackson Dart.

You didn't know you were going to be in position to get him. What if, what if somebody snatches them up? What if somebody moves ahead of you and take it? So now, so I got, oh, Joe, it's kind of like, you know, I bought, you buy something and you're like, damn. If I knew I was going to be able to get, if I knew I was going to be able to get that at a cheaper price, I wouldn't even bought this. Right, right. And so that, I believe that's what happened. They didn't know they're going to be in position to get Jackson Dart.

And now all of a sudden, we signed these guys in free agency. And guess what? Jackson Dart is there. Right. Man, we can get him. You right. Man, if I knew I could have got this new car

for what I, I wouldn't have got these two used ones. But it's, I remember, and I remember Ocho, how sad Eli looked standing on the sideline. Yeah.

Because Eli had started, you have to understand. He looks. sad when he in the game. He does. It just, just as, his demeanor, his demeanor.

You can't tell when he's, uh, well, he had already broken the street because remember, uh,

Gino Smith when they benched him for that one game. Yeah. I say, man, that's some bull, jive. How are you going to beat the man's street

for one game and then put him back in there? Yeah, they did that on purpose. I, I'm not sure. I'm not sure why. I'm not sure why.

I'm not sure why. So, we'll see. the over under is eight. Mo Lewis blames Drew Bredt's Bledso for the hit that launched the Tom Brady era. Bledsoe had just signed a $100 million deal to be what type of quarterback?

A passing quarterback, correct? He had not gotten outside the pocket and ran with the ball. If he had not gotten outside the pocket, it ran with the ball, we would be talking about this. Who calls the event? The person with the ball. Now he's doing what he didn't sign up for. He signed up to be a passing quarterback.

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Listen to the Solid Verbal College Football Podcasts on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Different play for him is really irrelevant to me. I was just another play to me, to y'all, it's a big game-changing, history-changing play. I've never gone back to Washington play. If people want to talk about it, I don't hide from it. But it's no importance to me. Lewis had avoided the spotlight. retiring former team may say he's feel slighted because I don't think so look I know

Mo and I used to work out together you're a funny guy but he's like hold on so what y'all want me to do the guy got the ball he's a passing quarterback he's not that fast and then bro get out of bounds yeah he was he was trying to get out of bounds not fast enough yeah he was he was he was head out of bound. He didn't get out fast enough. But it was a good hit. It was a good hit. Good clean. Hey, good clean hit. Drew Brees went down and the rest was history. I mean, Drew Blessoe went down and the rest was history. Yes. The rest was history. Yes. And it lost to it. Go ahead.

I think if he didn't go down, if Drew, if Drew Bledso didn't get hurt, I think it's something about history still would have been what it was. History still would have been with it was. At some point, Tom is going to come in there. Yeah, at some point I mean, I think it might be a very difficult situation, Ocho. You just gave a man $100 million

and then you say, well, we're going to start this guy that we took in the sixth round. Hey, that's tough. That's tough. Now, everything that happened after they won the Super Bowl, Coach Belichick could do no wrong in Mr. Kraft's eyes.

Because it seemed like every button that he push with kachin, kachin, kaching, kachin, kachin. And when it's going like that, look, I don't, I don't know anybody that's ever been around, Mr. Kraft.

I've been around him a little bit. I like him. Been around Coach Belichick, a little less. I don't have a problem with Coach Belichick, but they're very different people. They're very, very, very, very. How many times did I say very? Okay, one more time.

Four. Very different people. they are Ocho yeah and when you got two different people yes sir

that's opposite of each other mm-hmm Mr. Crabb looked at it like you know what yeah we're different I don't like the way he does certain things or why he talks I got it good

These Super Bowls keep piling up We win the division every year We win the AFC championship game Every other year Yeah, I'm gonna keep my mom close Yeah Hey Because based on what he had done

Coach Belichick should have got another three, four years If you mean to tell me This man gives you 20 years And you win 18, 19 division titles You go to seven, you go to nine Super Bowls, you win six, you go to 10, 11, AFC championship games. And you mean to tell me you only get two years? You only get two years? So I give you 20 years of prosperity.

And I only get two years. One year we make the playoff the next year. How many years did Coach Belichick coach after Brady? I'll make sure I'm, whether two or three. He drafted Matt Jones. They go to the playoffs the next year. they don't, and did they fire him after that? I think.

Coach Belichick didn't draft Drake, May. He got two years. Tampa. Yes. He coached four years, La Brady? Wow. No, okay. Oh, he squeezed out four?

He got four. Went to the playoff the first year, right, with Matt Jones. Mm-hmm. Oh, Matt, Matt first year, well, he was nice, boy. Yeah, Matt in the first year, yeah. He looked very promising, and then I don't know what happened after that. Well. It was the second year since Brady left from the first year, not Jones.

Right. So he got four years after Brady left. When he went to the pull-offs. The second year? The second year after Brady left for the first year, not Joe. Okay, right. Right, right, right, right, right. Right. Okay.

And I think the fake, look, he has started to take those swings and misses, Ocho. Yeah. Because when you got Brady, you can swing and miss it, and Brady come up there and hit it over the fence. He makes a favor. Brady was the greatest erases. So every mistake that you raised, Brady could erase it. Every time.

And right in the correct answer. Now the mistakes that you make it, drafting those tight-ins. and they're not on the team signing guys in for agency and they don't cut it after the year Miss Crassel like whoa whoa wait a minute This ain't what I'm used to No no no and Ocho you know You get used you get accustomed to a certain

Certain level of winning Lifestyle yeah yeah It's hard You want to maintain that Absolutely But Like I said I I don't, you know, Mr. Crafts is a very religious man.

Not to say to Coach Belichick's not, but I just don't, I wouldn't necessarily put them together. If I don't see them best friends as just people, just common people. Right. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not saying, I don't know if owners and coaches are best friends, but.

Strictly business. Strictly. One thousand percent. Yeah, two people with the same. end goal. The same end goal in mind when it comes to business and football, we're trying to compete for the same thing. But outside building, nothing to like. Nope. Nope. And I'm like, Mo, man, what y'all want me to do? Y'all make it seem like I intended to like almost kill this man. I didn't. I just put a hit on him just like I would. Anybody else that's running the

football. My job is to hit people, tackle people, and go back to the huddle and do it over again. Yeah. But it birthed the dynasty, unlike anything that we had ever seen. You probably got to go back to the Yankees in the 20s or the 50s or the 60s to find anything something like this. Over the period of time in which it lasted, 60 Celtics, you know, they win eight championships in that decade where they went eight in a row.

They won more. but it went eight in a row. I mean, you got to go back to something like that. But in football, I don't think I'm going to see it in my lifetime. Now, I'm not going to live another 80 years, probably not going to live another 50 years. So I'm not going to see it in my lifetime. Good luck. Somebody that's in the teenage years seeing something like what we saw from 2000 until Tom Brady left in 2020.

Good luck. That's what I say, good luck. I mean, 2019. So good luck. Hey, you're right And it made it And people think it's so easy They think it's so easy

Because now we're seeing another great quarterback do it Not to that extent But he ain't too far off Right he's on the plate No And 15 over there in Kansas City No It's not easy

Winning is hard in the NFL And to win consistently It's even harder And the win consistently and then cap it off with championships is even, it's much harder. Yeah. And I think sometimes, you know, it's just like anything until you see somebody, man, man, that's these Steph Curry make that look easy. That is, it's an issue ain't easy.

Man, a man threw the ball back. That ain't easy. They just, the greatness sometimes mask just how difficult something is. Yeah. Gretzky made hockey look easy. You say boat made running look easy Michael Phelps made swimming look easy Simone Bowles made it look easy

Serena it's not It's just that they're so great You take it for granted Yeah But when you play When you're a professional athlete No matter the sport that you end And you see somebody else

Another professional athlete do something And do it consistently At an extremely high level I think you have a greater appreciation for it, Ocho, than say, the normal fan. Yes. Yeah. I definitely think you have a great appreciation because you realize, you understand,

because if you think about Ocho, you think about what we put into what we do. And we were great in our own right. But when you see Jerry or you see Tom or you see Mahomes or you see Emmett Smith or you see a Jerry Rice or you see a Joe Montana or you see a Jordan or Larry Bird of Magic and a a LeBron and a

Steph Curry you're like damn boy special man damn and you look at Joe you're like I remember like damn I remember being in the high school like damn I'm really talented I mean I do stuff that just come so easy

I mean it's easy for me to do this and then you see these guys you're like what must they have been like in high school what was LeBron like what was time like what was

I think Serena was home school so I'm like damn you get a greater appreciation for greatness because you understand it's just and there's levels to greatness there's levels to greatness

that it is I think the casual fan really wouldn't understand it the casual fan I think those that have played the game played the sport can see it a little bit differently and understand

what you're witnessing beforehand seeing Brady play seeing Pat Mahomes seeing stuff like that and the dynasties and that they're creating the situations on how great certain situations are, especially when they end,

that Brady and Belichick era. Yeah. Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid era. Watching the greatest of LeBron, people not understanding always having something negative to say, watching the greatness of the brawn for so long, now understanding how great what we're witnessing is until there's no longer there.

It ain't hit you. It ain't hit you now. It ain't hit nobody yet. You got to wait until they're done. Then you'll see how great Steph Curry. is right they don't understand yet yeah yeah I mean and there'll be other great players and but then you'll have a like man man you remember when uh man you remember when brown and katy man you remember with step curry and such and such just like burning magic just like

jordan and this one Elijah wanted in shack right 20 years from now people to talk about K.D. and LeBron, Steph and LeBron, Yokich and this one, Luca and that one. It'll be just like that. Just like we talk about those guys. And just like people used to talk about

when I was coming up, they talked about Chamberlain and Russell. Ocho, Polish millionaire, CEO, Shrek. I ain't even messed his man name up, but this is what he's saying. He said, I understand that some people might not like it, but please, let's

not make a global scandal out of a hat. It's just a hat. If you were faster, you would have had it. I remind you that insulting a public figure is subject to legal liability. No, it's not. You sue somebody you, if you were to sue somebody in the States,

ain't nothing going to happen. Because, bro, you snatched the hat. First of all, you took the kid's pen. He tried to hand the guy, he tried to hand the kid to hat. You snatched the hat. You got something signed.

And then you gave the kid his pen back. You didn't let the kid get his tennis ball sign. You didn't let him get the hat. You took the pen, got something signed for yourself. After you took the hat. Wait, he took, why he took the cat from a little kid, though, huh? Because he said if the kid was faster, he'd had it. Ah.

Who signed it? A tennis player. the tennis player took the hat off to give to the kid because it was his pen that he was signing with oh and the be grown-ass man yes oh man come on man that's messed up in matter of fact he has a resource to be able to get a sign without without having to do all that yes come on now tighten up man tighten up from a kid now now it was the kid's pen and the tennis player signed all that and the kid didn't get anything signed. He didn't get anything signed,

and he didn't get a keepsake. I would always, if I use somebody's pen, I say, hey, bro, here, let me get that. It's your pen. How are you going to let everybody borrow your pen? You sign five, six, seven things, and the guy and the kid's pen that you use, he don't even get anything signed.

Yeah. Man, and that's amazing. Who penned this? Who penned this, mine? And let me get that, bro. Right. That's how you're supposed to do it. y'all sometimes grown people

y'all be doing too much and you see this all the time they be for a baseball the kid about to have a ball they toss the ball and they reach their big grown ass over there and snatch it come on bro from a kid you're going to snatch a ball

or a towel or wristband whatever case may be Ojo come on now is that what we are in society every time yeah he's Polish don't put that on us he's part of society Ocho not ours

where you think we see that most of the time if I didn't tell you you wouldn't know that you wouldn't know these Polish we just happen to say that that's what we see in society we're a part of society and just when I think society we're better than this as a society I come to the realization no we're not this is who we are as a society this is what we've become

as a society. We've become selfish. We've become greedy. No, let me take that back on Joe. We've become more. We've always been this. Yes. We've always been this. We've become more. But I couldn't believe. And then

he had the nerve to tweet to tweet this. Oh, you on Twitter too? He said, I understand some people might not like it. But please, let's not make a global scandal out of a hat. It's just a hat. If it's just a hat, why the hell you do all that to get it?

Hmm. I think, I think, Chad, hey, Chad, we need to tweet him. To tell him, give us that goddamn hat back to the little kid. Yeah. Yeah, he's a CEO. He ain't just some willing-near the person that works at a company, Ocho. He's the CEO of a company.

Right. And he's like, if you were faster, you would have had it. Really? So because the kid doesn't have the reflexes as an adult. Wow. Hey. And first of all.

Hey, what's his Twitter, man? I don't know what to do this. Let's go pay him, but let's go pay his business a visit. Yeah, people have been writing negative views about the business. Yeah, people have been writing negative views about the business. What is it? Shurzac? Jurzorik.

Puteur. What kind of place is it? What services do they provide? So we can leave a... What kind of company? Oh, it's like a paving company, Ocho. Paving? Yeah.

Yeah, we're going to get them out of business. Poland's leaving industry. Yeah. Hopefully they don't need to pave anything or they use another company. Some people that are writing that is. Yeah. I know he is.

Ain't talking about insulting a public figure. Maybe in Poland, but you and you're with no justice. You bring your ass over here. Hey, because, hey, yeah, no. Hey, don't play one thing about it. Well, people don't play when people come together.

Yeah, but they want to get you out of there? But he won't have no business left. But you can be a jerk in any, in any, in any language, in any nationality. Polish, American, African, Italian, German, whatever. Mm-hmm. So we keep it a bug here. The billionaire owner of the Buffalo Bills. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purposed podcast.

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Mega Yacht Circulated online Ocho As taxpayers have paid nearly a billion dollars Towards the team New Stadium Terry Pagula's

Mega Yacht dub Top 5-2 is over 200 feet in length featuring luxury cabins That can accommodate up to 12 guests The vessel is available to Charter for $550,000

per week The backlash came when the Bill's franchise I received what it called one of the largest public subsidies in NFL history. Why would you, why would you, oh, Joe, he's not the first. And I don't know Mr. Pagula. I don't know him. I've never met him.

I do. I know he will. I know his daughter. She advanced today in tennis and straight sets. Why would you do that when you take a billion dollars of public money? And then you turn around and you buy a $100 million yacht. When you're probably worth $4, $5 billion, why would you do that? I have a question, too, on?

Yes. I think the timing of when he chose to do it. Yes. Without the public funding, he's still got to get that yacht, huh? Yeah, absolutely. And that's the thing. He still got that yacht. I think it's just the timing of doing so.

Or maybe you've got to think, how long does it take to build a yacht? It is something new? Oh, no, no, no. It takes a minute to build a yacht. exactly is this something new is this something that it's probably a couple years yeah so i mean you you never know but that's the new thing ocho if you go back and look look at these owners jerry jones has one arthur blank has one before he left uh uh schneider has one that seemed to be a new thing because there was a tax going on a tax cut a tax break if you got a yacht if you got

a private jet so you know so you see what i'm getting at you and i know you'll and I don't know what that's like because I don't want to know what it's like because I used to have a private jet before. I used to have a mega yacht before, but I had to get, I had to get. So it takes four years to build a yacht, Ocho. A super yacht.

Now, now this is a 200 footer. So, I mean, a lot of them people got 300, 400. I mean, I just saw some Russian billionaire. He got one that's a football that's length of a football field. Yeah. Can you imagine how big a year? I can't even think.

My mind won't even wrap around that. But look, I might have. I might have, I might, I would, might, would buy shares in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, private jet. I don't want no yacht. I don't want no yacht. Mm-hmm. Mm-mm. You don't want no yacht?

No, hell no. I don't like the water like that. I don't need to take no bath. Hey, hey, hey, aunt, listen. Man, I had my feet kicked up, man, on my yacht, man, with my cigar. Man, relaxing. Frankie Beverly and Maze playing in the background. Talk a city.

Man, get you off that goddamn bow. No, I wouldn't. Get out. Come sit back here. A jet? Private jet, Ocho? Yeah. I more shares in a private jet.

I don't need but a couple of hundred hours a year. A couple hundred hours a year. Give me everywhere I need to go. I ain't going nowhere like that. So you like to fly. You like to travel. Oh, Cho, that's all you do. Let me ask you a question.

How do you get from point A to point B? I don't know, but I don't know if you notice. But your company filed. bankruptcy again. Who? The one that you fly all the time that you be talking about the Greek service.

I ain't called no name, but you we don't call names on here. One thing we're not going to do if we're not going to talk about Spirit Airlines. I didn't talk about it. When it comes to Chapter 11 bankruptcy, let's understand what Chapter 11 means. We're going to be all right.

And we ain't going nowhere. And I'm not singing the song either. But we're going to be all right. We're going to be here. Okay, God, Tribit. so yeah i mean like you said ocho uh it's just the optics of it i mean it's like you said ocho uh it's just the optics of it i mean it's like you that's how i feel chat he out here buying all this new ish and he on me fifty nine hundred what what if i bought new i haven't bought anything new new place all right look at them tv little um um ipads on the wall Hey, why you keep, hey, uh, um, I know, I know chat, they might, hey, it look, it look really small, right? Yeah.

You know, you know, it's far away. That's actually 60 yards. I don't know about no 60 yards, but I know that's what you call him. Ah, look. You can see me? Yeah, I see you. Let me tell you what I can't see. Fifty-nine hundred.

Hey, now that's, that's like, that's like, it's like almost a football field here in the living room. Yeah, hey. What? All right, don't you? We're going to end on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. I'm almost, I'm almost, I'm almost, you got a cyber truck.

get a cyber truck? Huh? Didn't you get a cyber truck? Me? Yeah, it's out there. I ain't buy that. My baby got that for me. I know she watching.

Hey, boo-woo. New baby, old baby. Now, come on, man. Come on, man. Give my money I got you I got you I got you

Remember long as I owe you You told me that before You ain't gave me my money yet I know because the pool The pool almost finished Soon as they finished the pool I got you with my money I want to get a pool too

You can't even swim I can't swim Now you're too old And get in the water You got bad hips That's why I'm going to get To get the jacuzzi I want to get to jacuzzi

Where it's nice and warm Errador said, who has the best uniforms in the NFL and who has the worst uniforms in the NFL? The worst is a team up with Jordan's hometown. Who? Cincinnati. Like, we, our color rush, those color rush, all white jersey with a white helmet. That's the best.

That ain't y'all uniform. That ain't your standard uniform. Oh, standard? Okay. I like the, uh, you know, I like, I like, uh, you know, I, I like, uh, the, uh, you know, I, I like, uh, the charges. Those powder blue. Okay, that powder blue nice, boy. That powder blue. I, I can, I can, I can agree with you on that. That powder blue is nice. And you know who you have to, uh, you remember the Houston Orleans old powder blue to love your blue uniforms?

Yeah, with, uh, with the, with the, the, the oil. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like the Broncos. You know what? I used to, I like the Broncos, oh, geez, the blue and orange. Mm-hmm. I ain't got, what that hell meant me? The horse on the side. Yeah.

Nah, this was, this one. It had this logo on the side, but it was a different orange. It had that logo on the side, but it was a lot of... The orange, yeah. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. It was a different color of blue. Uh.

Kemprennoe with Ocho, who. who are your top four hurricane players? Who, Sean Taylor, number one, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed. Oh, my goodness. I mean, I can go Andre Johnson. I can go Santana Moss, Roscoe Parr,

I don't show a row. Oh, it's so many. I'm going to go with my dogs, though. So no Michael Irvin, no sap, no Cortez, Kenan, no Jay Buggy, Jerome Brown, none of them, huh? You know what, matter of fact, you don't even do?

I'm going receivers. Santana Moss, Andre Johnson, I'm going Madole, Roscoe Parish Give me another Give me another receiver I'm tripping You got Devin Hester

What's the guy he played it He played an indie Reggie Wayne I'm tripping Reggie Wayne Yep that's my matter of fact That's my five right there. I mean, listen, you can go,

listen, when it come to the U.N., you can go down every position and it's none but dogs. You can't even go wrong, but I'm going with all receivers. Hell, uh, Jeremiah Love only got 14 touches, bro. Why?

Jeremiah Love, who he played for? You must be talking to it. He talked about for the caves or something? Because I'm missing something. Notre Dame. How many touches you wanted him to have? Hey, that little receiver for Notre Dame, Faison? Yeah.

He nice. He started, he started off the game out the gate. They were, where they were featuring that boy. He was nice. 10 for 33, 4 for 26. I mean, it's kind of hard to get the running game going when you're behind. Yeah. And they really couldn't run the ball.

They had 28 rushes for 93 yards. I mean, I'm, uh, that's not good. So I don't really know what you expect them to do. OG underscore Thanos, what's up, Uncan Ocho. Can Carson Beck be a high draft pick with a good season this year? Anything's possible. Yeah.

Matter of fact, he can be a good high draft pick if you beat the teams that you're supposed to be. Yep. No, beat the teams you're not supposed to be. Right. My bad. That's what I think they're going to be favored against a lot of. They're going to be favored a lot of games. I think they might not be favored against Florida State.

It'll be closely. It might be a pick-em or they might be favored by one or two. Right. But you're right, though, they're going to be favored down there in every game because a lot of their toughest games are at home. So they're going to really be favored. But I think he can. Chris Baller said, who y'all got tomorrow?

TCU or UNC. Can't wait to see what Coach Belichick has planned. He's going with Bill all day. yeah yeah i look we saw how uh mad patricia had arch manning head spinning hey boy hey mad maddie had them boys playing he did and and i always think i think like when when when pro coaches former coaches come they have a decided advantage because they can get they're gonna they're gonna show some looks college these kids they never seen before and it's it's much easier too especially you have personnel to be able to execute those looks.

If you ain't got the right players, you ain't be able to pull it off. And the thing is, Ocho, is that how do I go back and study film? I got to go back and look at film when Mike Patricia called defenses. I got to go back, that's in NFL. I got to look at when Coach Belichick called defense. That's in the NFL. I ain't got no college tape on him. Right. So they do have an advantage. Wazoo said my mom went back to school to get her teaching degree in her 50s, never too old.

Wazoo, you're absolutely correct. That's right. So when y'all see me at FAMU next year, we're at the end of the football season, February, March, something around there, y'all find me in Tallahassee. We'll be doing the show from there. Jay One's cow said,

Geron Sagaputelli is a lefty-cal quarterback from Hawaii that everyone has been talking about. He beat out Ohio State transfer, Devin Brown, as a true freshman, and has drawn comparisons to Tui and Purdy. Okay, we have to take a look at him, bro. Tommy G., Notre Dame Cathedral is a 10 out of 10 experience. Take your word for it.

I've never seen it before. On television, I've never seen it in person. Pat Dobs said week four, Packers v. the Cowboys, Vingles versus the Broncos, nightcap, going to be rocking. Y'all wear each other's jersey if y'all team lose. Ocho them lose it. I guarantee you we don't y'all losing

I guarantee we don't and I know one thing what Jamar Chase I hope Pat I hope Pat I don't bet with PS2 I hope pass her 10th

don't do that I hope you follow them all over the place because we don't had our conversation on how to slice and dicey now so we good uh Rieszie Rock says Cincinnati and Denver week one

who's losing not the Broncos well we're not us either we didn't know what anybody losing then okay and I've told you we're putting up 55 points uh Troy Hughes said did trading Michael Parsons to Green Bay just killed the Cowboy Super Bowl hopes or can Dalla still piece it together

Bo hopes I didn't think they were going to Super Bowl if they kept him what did we talk about yeah yeah I didn't see that with Michael so says, Just Saw Little Wayne,

great show. Who would you like to see live? I sample Unk talking about how valuable his time is in a song called myself. Check it out. Send it to Ocho and Ash. Who would I like to see in concert?

He's passing going on. Who you want to? Who? Who would you want to see a concert? Prince. Who? Oh, blue eyes. Oh, Frank Sinatra.

Yeah, man. Oh, yeah. Oh, Frank, boy. I'm the type. Frank will probably put me on stage and come sing with him. Can you imagine me and Frank Sinatra singing a duet?

No, I can't imagine that. No, I couldn't imagine that. Fly with me. Man, I... Boy. Yes, can y'all give a shout out to De Ron Grimm for his birthday today? Ocho, you inspired him a lot when he played college football. Thank you.

DeRan, happy birthday. Hopefully you had a great day. Hope you did something, got a great, got some gifts, got an opportunity to spend it with family, friends, and loved ones because that's what we do on our birthday. We celebrate with those that we love and care deeply for and that care about us. So happy birthday. Shannon Bartholomew sharp Why y'all want me to be a Bartholomew? Do I look like a Bartholomew?

You look like a Bartholomew, though. It makes sense. I like that. You should change your name. You should add that to your name in the course. I like that. Ask somebody, you look like an Earl. Me?

No, me. Earl. I can see Earl. Earl. Earl of Pearl, Earl of Pearl, Earl of Pearl. I think I'm going to go with Shea. Shannon, Shea Sharp. Yeah, that works.

Okay. Okay, I like that. A little short, a little short. Okay. Yeah. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We greatly appreciate that as you watch the number 10 Miami Hurricanes. Take down the number six fighting Irish of Notre Dame by the score of 2724.

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