Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Tyreek NO LONGER a captain & Arch escaping the Shedeur treatment!
Episode Date: September 2, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Tom Brady saying that today’s QBs aren’t mentally developed as it was when he was in the NFL, CeeDee Lamb and Diggs defend ...the rumors about Micah Parsons, and Tyreek Hill was not selected as a captain for the Miami Dolphins and much more! 57:35 Brady on todays QBs01:22:30 - Tom Brady on Aaron Rodgers big the greatest throwing QB01:30:00 - Tyreek Hill not named Captain01:42:00 - Arch vs Shedeur01:49:20 - Vegas has Lamar as MVP favorite01:54:50 - Q and Ayyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Oh, Joe.
What's up, man?
Tom Brady said the quarterback position
isn't as mentally developed as it was when he entered the league.
I don't believe the quarterback position
as mentally developed as it was when I entered the league
25 years ago.
There was a premium on understanding defenses
on understanding matchups.
on I'd say pre-snaps, Reeves, getting your team
in and out of the right play.
I felt the way to learn was played a position
over a period of time.
You truly give your team the best chance to win
to be a field general.
I think you better have a mental advantage on the field,
and I think sometimes there's more important
than physical advantage.
Ocho, do you agree with him?
Hey, do me for your uncle,
you said a whole lot right there that Brady said.
Bring it, listen, break it down to me
in our language.
He says there was a premium of understanding defenses.
You had to understand what the defense was trying to do.
So now you go out there and you're looking,
you're not just looking at your guy.
Like, man, this quarters.
Oh, this is covered this.
He got help over here.
So you needed to understand a pre-snap.
You're looking at the alignment.
You're looking at that triangle.
Okay.
I see what you're trying to do.
So he said, you guys need to have a pre-snap.
You need to have an understanding of what's about.
to happen. Make sure you get your guys, okay, do not run a play into a safety that you can't
block. Okay. That's a negative play. So you just gave up or down for whatever reason. Flip it.
Right. I like that. Audible out of it. But listen, Tom Brady speaking from a standpoint of being
number 12, a standpoint of having the power and the ability to be able to change plays.
Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, they drew Breeze. It's a few other quarterbacks that I can name.
when they came to the line of scrimmage
no matter how much disguising you did
no matter how much bluffing you did
based on down the distance they already know from
watching film they know what the hell you're doing
they know what the hell you're doing they know
exactly where each player is going to be
snap of the ball even if you
wait even if you wait late
and wait until he snap the ball
and he still sees moving in front
of them because once they snap
they're looking right down field
okay if you if you was down in the box and you shoot
back out okay this is what they
he already know what's coming.
And every play you run, chat, every,
officer play you run, especially when it's a past play,
there's always somebody open.
There's always somewhere to go with the ball.
And it's all about being able to process information
on what you see in front of you
and knowing where to go with it very fast.
Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,
Drew Brees were the best at it.
They were the best at it.
Sometimes you got to look at what those guys put in.
Because a lot of times got,
So see, a lot of times guys now, there's more important thing than football.
Football was the most important thing to Tom Brady.
It was the most important thing to Peyton Manning.
So there was no life outside of that.
During the season, the most important thing was football.
They didn't play video game.
It wasn't no call of duty.
It wasn't no madden.
It wasn't no doing all this.
They got all the commercials done in the offseason.
So everything that was focused was sending around,
how could I become the best football player I possibly can?
the question you ask yourself is that what these quarterbacks today doing yeah and also you have to give some of the quarterbacks today also you have to give them a little grace you have to give them a little grace because they're starting the game so young they don't have the freedom to do some of the things that tom brady's mentioning that takes time to develop to even get to that point where you can recognize everything you're seeing and just trust you Peyton man it was the coach yeah Brady was the coach
But they know they put so much time in the Ocho.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right.
So listen, quarterbacks right now, they can't come up to the line of scrimmage and see something.
He'd be like, you know what, this thing will work.
We can't run that play.
Sometimes I watch NFL games.
Wait a minute.
The defense's the line shifts to the right.
Change it.
Right.
You want to power stretch to the right, right into the defense.
Right.
I think some quarterbacks don't have the freedom to be able to do that because their officer
the coordinators don't trust them just yet because they're young no you got you got
earned that no only guy had that freedom early on with Peyton manning yeah they they
turned the keys over to Peyton Brady didn't even have that kind of leeway early in his career
he earned that trust Drew earned that trust Rogers earned that trust you have to earn that
and that doesn't happen overnight it doesn't Patrick Mahomes had to earn Andy's trust
in order to be able to be able to audible in and out of plays,
change of play, you know, things of that nature.
It's different now.
Also, I came in the league.
The quarterback's called their own plays.
It wasn't looking at the wrist.
They called their plays.
John Elway called his plays.
Seriously?
Yes.
He called the game.
Damn.
Yes.
Wait, no officer coordinator talking into the...
Hey, he might say what you like here.
Okay.
Hey, yes, quarterbacks, the old court, the old guard,
those guys, I came in the league,
quarterbacks were calling some of the quarterbacks,
not all, some of the quarterbacks were calling their own play.
Yeah, he's like, get out of the sideline.
Yeah, no, you got to get out my ear.
Get out of my ear.
But it takes a lot.
You have to put a lot of, a lot of timing in.
Yeah.
And everybody.
But like you said, you're talking about Brady running practice.
He's running.
He's running.
a walkthroughs. He's running
seven-on-seven. He's running
two-minute. He's running, running no
huddle. Tom is doing those things.
If you want a quarterback
to half, you got to let him do it.
You got to let him do it.
I got to tell this story. I don't know if I'm getting in trouble or not.
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to share this. I don't
even care. I don't even care, chat.
I'm going to tell you about why
the New England of Patriots were so goddamn
good. Everybody in the
chat, I know you saw the beginning of full metal
jacket. With the
Sergeant going off, cursing, and just a, he was, he was on one in the beginning of the movie
Full Metal Jacket.
One day in practice, Bill O'Brien, obviously, the officer coordinator, called in the
plays.
We're in practice, and Bill radios in the play in Tom's ear.
I'm in the huddle.
I'm assuming maybe Tom didn't get it.
So Tom's sitting there with his head down and he does one of these.
Give me the play.
Give me the play again.
And Bill must have said it again.
He didn't hear it because the thing, the communication must have been off.
And Tom, look back.
Give me the goddamn play.
Bill.
I gave you the fucking play already.
I said it two fucking times.
What I didn't fucking get it.
What the fuck you want me to do?
Jesus Christ, I'm in the middle of practice.
We're in the middle of practice.
And at that moment, I understood this is why.
This is why the smallest things.
That period we were doing where that one play,
that one play didn't work and it didn't go right,
we started the whole fucking period over.
We started the whole period over
so we can get all the plays in succession
and get it the right way.
Yep.
I'm like, what?
What?
Yeah.
Bill over there with the whistle on his finger.
Twirling.
Back and forth.
Yeah.
So I'm like,
man,
what are they running over here?
No,
it was unbelievable.
No,
there's so many stories.
I can share that one.
Some of the other ones,
it's a little too,
a little too graphic.
Oh.
We,
bro,
we would go practices.
The ball wouldn't touch the ground.
Mike would come out there and says,
I don't expect the ball to touch the ground.
For real?
ball don't touch the ground right right right well look here people people bad
look like I said them 90s Broncos you understand mm-hmm I understand why
the Cowboys won in the 90s I understand why the 49 is one in the 80s and the
Steelers won because there's a level in which you practice at yes not
that you get it right, you
practice so you couldn't get it wrong.
That's a good one. That's exactly
how we were.
And it was, you're so
afraid to let the man
next to you down. And he's so
afraid to let you down.
I'm not going to be the one to drop
this ball. No, that ain't going to happen to me.
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Hmm.
Man, Ocho, boy, look here.
Look, I, you, I've never really been around Tom, like in a game.
We played them.
I played him twice.
We played them in 2000, with my first year back in,
remember, we beat him, and then they came and Tom threw a touchdown pass with like 20 seconds
to go in the ballgame to beat us. But being around him and listening at him talk now,
you understand why he's how he is. Yeah. You understand it. You understand. You understand. You
understand it. Absolutely. He's an animal. In film. In practice. Once he's outside that
building, completely different person. Yes. I can relax now.
different person.
They got to the point where a few times I've always told people seeing Tom Brady,
seeing Peyton Manning, seeing him in front of a camera, hearing them talk, it does no justice
because they have to put on a certain facade, they have to mask who they truly are, the fun
side, the authentic Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.
So nobody really knows who they are unless you know them personally.
Yeah.
Some of the greatest, some of the greatest, funniest dudes ever.
And the fact that they have to remain a certain way,
once that camera's rolling, it's unfair.
It's unfair to the world in general because you never get to see the real them.
Everything you see is that political robot that says all the right things,
that patriot way.
But outside of that, though, Tom, you're talking about funny?
I used to hate old Joe.
You know what I hate?
If somebody mess up, everybody.
to get punished.
I don't punish him.
That's bad.
Don't show the bad.
Don't laugh, man.
You are out there running.
I mean, somebody jump off sides or somebody do something and we all got to run.
Yeah.
Their thought process was if it happens in the game, he's not the only one that's going to get punished.
We get punished as a unit.
Yeah, right.
Right.
Hold on.
That might be happen.
But I'm on the side, Ocho, if the office with Dan Reeves, if the office jumped upside, even if you had in the game, you had to run.
had to run.
Mm-hmm.
Wait, even if you're not in the game.
Yes, if you're not even in practice,
the office had to run.
Right, right.
Oh, Lord.
Hey, listen, hey, Dan, like one band, one sound,
baby.
Yes.
One band, one sound.
Every time you jump outside, Ocho,
you had to, you had to run a lap.
Lap was around both football fields.
So it's like, that's 400 yards.
Man, why I had to run three one day, Ocho?
Three.
Somebody jumped off sides?
No, me.
Me.
Me.
Man, Lord, have mercy.
Dad, hey boy, Dan was old, old school.
You heard how people talk about Coach Landry
and how those old school coaches was.
That's where Dan, Dan was the offensive coordinator
for the Dallas Cowboys under Coach Landry.
So he brought Coach Landry style.
If you see Dan back when he first started coaching, he got a hat on.
He got a shirt and tie.
He got a suit on, just like Coach Landry.
Now, he never really folded his arms like Coach Landry.
Right.
Because Dan called the plays.
Coach Landry turned, you know, turned some of the play clawing over.
That was it, I think, you know, people said that was some of the thing between him
and Roger Starback because he didn't really want to let the reins go.
But, oh, man, yeah.
Oh, but I show, I was like, damn.
I don't know what it was, Ocho.
Man, you know when you get tired, Ocho, you be thinking,
I was like, damn, is it one?
Was it on one?
It was it on two?
But the ball, the ball right down your inside or two.
But I ain't looking at a ball, man.
I'm looking at a damn, that ball.
One thing about it, boy.
Hey, my, I never forget my coach, Coach Bud,
Miami Lex Optimus, 1988.
Fatigue will make a fool of us all.
Yeah, absolutely will.
It absolutely will.
But I remember that man, all the running.
And then like we have guys like the guys that make weight in training camp.
They have to run one-tens after practice.
So we've been out there for two hours, Ocho.
And, you know, you might have to run 10.
You might have to run 12.
Man, you know, I run I run with the guys.
You know, especially if one of the guys is in my group, one of the tight ends.
Right, right, right.
Or we have to run.
We have to run after practice.
So we might have to run 10, 12, 1-10s.
I'm coasting.
I'm cruising.
They're like, pick it up what?
For what?
So your team was different.
My team, obviously not me,
but when we were overweight,
you know,
it costs money a pound.
You still have to pay,
but you had to run and get it up.
You got to pay and you got to run?
Yeah, you got to get up off you somehow.
Man, please.
I ain't never had no problem with no weight.
I ain't never had, you know,
But I always, I always set my weight because I wanted something to fight for.
You know, as I started to get older, Mike would say 84, you know, you sure you want to come in with this?
I mean, you can come in a couple of pounds.
I was like, nope, I want to come in at this right here because I'm going to come in and then, you know, I'll come in at 232-2-30-ish.
By the time the first game start, I'm going to be at 228.
By the time the season end, I'll be at 225.
I already know, got it time, got it planned down to the tee, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, just like this.
know what I'm going to eat. I know when I'm going to eat. I know how much I'm going to eat.
I know how much protein, carbohydrates, fats. I know all of that. Um, but I, I just think that, you know,
that's just a discipline what it takes, Ocho, to be to be the best. Yeah. Because that's what we,
that's what I was trying to be. I was trying to be the best. I don't, I don't know what somebody else
was doing. All I can do is me versus me. I'm going to get everything I can't out is God
given talent. And then, hey, what he didn't give me. I can't complain, but he did give
discipline and hard and work ethic to get the most out of what i can do oh joe what do you think
the most difficult position is for a rookie defensive position oh defensive back yeah
defensive back oh absolutely coming in coming in coming in from college the speed of the game
has changed the players you got to go then plays you got to go against are a little bit more
polished than what you saw in college, everybody's fast, everybody's fast now, you know,
so really understanding who's in front of you, making sure you discipline, your eyes,
your technique.
Eye discipline.
Everything matters now once you get to that next left.
I mean, listen, your coordinators can hide you sometimes, you know, put the safety over top of
you.
I mean, shh, man, listen, man, DB, the most difficult.
Well, hey, not when you got one-on-one
and you ain't got no DVy over the top of you.
Because did y'all, I'm assuming y'all did.
Hold on, I'm trying to think.
Did y'all do, did one-on-ones every day
or y'all just did one-on-ones on Thursday?
Probably Wednesday and Thursday.
Yeah.
Yeah, can, you know, Wednesday, Wednesday,
we're obviously open field day.
Yeah.
Thursday is red zone, so we'll do red zone one-on-ones on Thursday.
Friday, the combination of both.
you know, practice only an hour on Fridays.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, yeah, that was, yeah, it was, it's funny that I think about, like, man,
but that was the, I really truly felt that at practice is when I was getting better.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, true, if I could be the guy that sees me every day, have seen me every day for years.
Yeah.
What chance that guy got in the game on Sunday and none at all?
zero
none at all
bro i don't even see you
just just so you know i don't even see you i all that you talking
okay
got something for you
but that man i just
but you just understand people
get to where they need to go
doing different things oh cho yeah
i was
it was the end all be all
right some oh joe i had team
they had to go out Wednesday night Thursday night Friday night they got to right
they got to they missing something something might happen and I ain't there to see it
like bro how mm-mm-hmm how man I got to get man I got to get me like I'm in the
bed Ocho I'm in the band at 10 yeah hell I was all way before my time hello my 20s I
I was in by 20 to go into bed at 10.
Yeah, we're in the same boat in a sense,
but you were here and I was out here.
You was like, I mean, oh, man.
Same way when I was in college.
Oh, you know, when I was in college, I was a teenager.
Oh, I was in the bed at 1030.
Sleep.
Out.
Yeah.
Out.
Man, boy.
My roommate would come in there and cut that light on.
Yeah, I understood early.
in college at Langston University
at Santa Monica
going out costs
and I ain't spending no money
so it was easy
for me not to go anywhere
and not going anywhere
gaming my money
my money I had to have to spend
it was spent on buying games
that was it
that's when my money went
I mean
I didn't really watch no football games
I would only watch a football game
a Monday night game
mocho if we weren't going to play that team during the season if we're going to play that team
during the season i ain't watching it no nope because i didn't want to have a false sense because if
they look bad i didn't want to say oh we're going to run through them or if they look good i'm like
damn we got our work cut out i got you i got you but i've always i've always been a guy that got
to like i said in college i'm 10 o'clock and don't be running out of because you know that that that
I was just reading some, a kid, I think 11 year old kid in Houston just got shot again, Ocho, playing that knock, knock, ding, ding thing.
Playing on people porch?
Yeah.
Dig, ding dong ditch.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man, Ocho, guys in college, Ocho, boom, boom, boom, boom, beat on your dog.
Lock on your dorm room, though, and running.
Yeah.
Really, guys?
Really?
I, listen, I'm, I'm, I'm one.
That was, that was me.
me. And listen, you talk about ding-dong ditch.
I'm, you know, my condolences to the young bull that lost his life in Houston doing
that. But I were doing that, too, back in the city. I'd never forget, Scott Projects.
Scott Projects, me and Snoop Minniss. I don't know if you remember Marvin Minnish.
Yeah, I heard of. I don't know him.
Man, we was little kids, man, and the Scott Projects, man, knock, knock, knock, taking off.
Mm-mm.
I remember them days. Oh, there's some good days.
That was like my freshman year.
When I got to be a sophomore.
Yeah.
And I was, I was the BMOC.
Right.
Don't do that.
What BMOC stand for?
Big man on campus.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah.
For my sophomore, my sophomore, yeah.
And definitely my junior senior senior year.
Oh, yeah.
You were that man.
Man, you know how sharp is, man.
Yeah.
Okay.
No, no, no, no, I just, I just, but I needed my rest.
Look, I don't practice my ass off.
Coach Davis doesn't have us out there for two,
two and a half hours.
I don't go on the study hall,
did my homework.
I'm out.
Oh, so I got to get up at seven in the morning.
I got class at eight.
So I got to get up, shower, put my clothes on,
go to the cafeteria, eat breakfast.
Time out, time out.
You schedule your classes for early in the morning?
Oh, yeah.
Boy, look here.
Bill Davis said, look here.
You ain't on no academic scholarship.
You're on a football.
scholarship. Boy, you couldn't have no class. You couldn't have no class. The latest you could
have a class. We had practice at, we had practice at three. The latest, the absolute latest.
Right. Bill didn't want, Coach Davis didn't want you to have a class afternoon. My class was
eight, eight to nine, nine to ten to ten to eleven to twelve. I go eat 30 minutes to eat.
Then I go get me out, go get me an hour to have nap, get up, walk to, we had to walk to
practice. We couldn't drive to practice. We had to walk to practice, which was like maybe a half a mile.
practice for two two and a half hours go to the cafeteria you eat go shower go do my homework
10 o'clock 10 30 lights out you better to me I wouldn't I get up early but I ain't getting up to go to
no class the only problem that coach that look coach Davis I love coach Davis today the only
time the only time he had our butted heads 5 a.m. workouts
that's the only time that's the only time i've ever told a coach coach i ain't going to do it 5 a m i'm not
going to do it but it's not the that's not the military that's like that's like army that's like
you know no that they trip that's they tripping man you know you had the all-season workouts
Ocho five o'clock me getting up early Ocho it just like ruin my date I feel like
I'm sluggish the rest of the day if you have to get up early yeah man I hated it right
and plus I had had to get up my senior year um before I went to Savannah State Ocho we had you
we did uh construct we did construction we did landscaping and I had to work in Savannah and I
I lived in Glenbro, which is 65 miles away.
We got to be on the job at 6 a.m.
So the guy picking me up at 4.30.
I said, no, man.
I ain't doing that.
I said, Coach, I can't do it, Coach.
I said, Coach, I can't do it.
I said, Coach, I can't do it.
Is a damn home?
He's a you the leader.
I said, well, coach, I'm going to have to leave from the bed.
I'm going to leave from my door room.
And he didn't bother me because he know, hey, he know what I was there for.
I was very, I was very specific when he came to recruit me at Savannah State.
Right.
When he came to my house to sign me that morning when I said, I called him and said,
Coach, I want to sign with Savannah State.
He said, I'm going to put some clothes on.
I'm coming right now.
So, no, Coach, you can come in the morning.
I was very intentional about what I wanted.
Right.
I can't do that.
Yeah.
What I can do.
what I can do. Tom Brady says Aaron Rogers is the most talented quarterback in
NFL history. Aaron in his prime to me is the greatest passer of the football the league
has ever seen. He could get the ball from point A to point B faster and more accurate
than any player in NFL history. You agree? Absolutely. And you know if anything you
might want to throw Brett far in it too. I don't think Brett was a great thrower of the
football. What I think of great throers of the football, I'm looking at
a guy like Aaron Rogers. I'm looking at a guy like
Dan Marino. Danny.
Wait, you don't put
whoa, whoa, whoa, you don't put bread in that
conversation? Not a great throw in football,
no.
But I understand what you're saying when he talks
about Aaron Rogers, though.
The arms, the slots, the angles
in which you can throw the ball from, the platform.
Every last one. From
a mafia, all the way down to the sidearm.
It didn't matter.
And he was accurate as hell.
Yes.
Accurate as here.
But then obviously, and especially Aaron Rodgers' mechanics, his footwork, that's not teaching.
You don't teach that.
You cannot.
You would never.
He's throwing off one foot.
He's throwing going back because he has arm strength to do it.
He has arm strength to be able to get away with some of the stuff that he does.
Anything Aaron Rogers like when it comes to playing the quarterback position, you can teach it because you're the only one that can get away with it because he has the armament.
But I still, to me, the greatest NFL season by a quarterback is day and season.
Yeah, but it's office.
Yeah.
He threw for 48 touchdowns, 5,000 yards.
In that era, when you could knock hell out of the quarterback,
you could knock hell out of receivers.
And he did that.
That's still the greatest for.
That is Joe Burroughs season, his last year at LSU.
That's what that would be the equivalent of.
You got to go and look, like I said, back then,
the defenses could punish the quarterback.
I'm talking about annihilate them.
There wasn't no, well, you know, you hit him in the back,
you hit him in his knee, you hit him below the waist.
And that was the greatest season.
But I won't argue with Tom on this one,
Aaron Rogers, the way he could, the platforms,
the arm slots, which he could throw the ball from,
and the accuracy in which he can throw from any angle on the field.
He's sick of none.
I mean, he's gifted.
He was gifted.
And the funny thing about it, a lot of people, a lot of people say, oh, Aaron Roger is trash.
Like, I don't, if you watch the game of football, when Aaron was in his prime of green break.
Yeah.
With Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson, Devante Adams, man.
Oh, he had a, uh, Greg Jennings.
Greg Jennings.
Uh-huh.
James Johnson.
Yeah, boy, he could slang it, boy.
Uh-huh.
He could sling it.
I'm Dan, he's Ty.
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C.D. Lamb denies rumors that Michael Parsons
was considered both egotistical and self.
center that's my dog he knows it i expressed to him just about every week i could so uh he knows
he so i feel like he knows where we stand as far as a brotherhood friendship and all that so
obviously wishing him the best hope he has the best season ever trayvon digs felt everyone in dallas
currently locker room like micah and he indicated that the fuel for those rumors likely came from
former cowboys he didn't name names but it's pretty clear digs were referring to demarkas lawrence
i think everyone liked him i feel there was some former players who were not here no more
who didn't like Micah and there's a lot of that I would say hate jealousy
every towards him because of who he is and the production that he does on the field
imagine if you could come here like and you're talking like somebody shine or taking
somebody's spot you're not going to like that they're going to feel some type of way
especially you're that type of person uh
the grade of the person listen mm-hmm because sometimes I think people
athlete, the greater the individual, the bigger the ego.
Quarterbacks have the biggest ego.
They do the best job of hiding it.
The greater the person, the greater the player, the more accomplished the person is.
So are we saying that Beyonce and Taylor Swift ain't got no ego?
Are we saying Drake, Michael Jackson, Whitney, and Mariah ain't have no ego?
Are we saying, are we saying, uh, uh, uh, Elon Musk and who, uh, whomever got no ego?
So we're saying Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, uh, Lawrence Taylor, uh, Jim Brown, hey, have no ego.
They all do.
The greater the person, the more accomplished the person.
More successful.
Yeah, all of them.
And what, what we do?
What we do in here?
Everybody's not going to be liked.
And that's okay.
What you do? What you do when you get on the field, bro?
As long as you ain't a jerk, not long as you not do, you know, doing anything that's going to, that's going to harm the locker room or call a fraction in the locker room.
I don't care nothing about that, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah.
First of all, I ain't going, I ain't going to your house like that anyway.
Mm-mm.
So what you do?
I don't care.
You leave, look, this is my locker right here, old you.
This is my locker right here.
As long as you don't F with nothing in my locker, I don't give that.
what you do. I ain't messing with nothing in your locker. You got a job to do. I got a job to do.
Yeah. And that's it. How you do? We don't have to be friends. We can be friendly. Yeah.
I mean, it's a locker room. You got 53 people. You got 53 people. Everybody's not going to get along.
Yeah. Everybody's not going to get along. You're going to have egos. You're going to have people with pride. You're going to have jealousy. You know,
No. It's just, it's always, it's always been a part of sports. It's always been a part of
locker rooms. It's always been a part of teens in general. You're not going to like
everybody. Nope. You're not there. This is, it's not a liking contest. You're there for one job.
Do your job. I like, I like you. I like you more if you do your job, good. I like
he was born. But
look
I don't you know
clearly CD
and Diggs
has a fondness to
with Micah
I've been around him a little bit
I don't have no problem with Micah never had a problem
with it. He's a funny
funny dude that's why
the hearing hearing anything come up about ego
and he's especially when to come to him
he's a funny guy he's young
you know
like it's weird
It's funny how everything comes out when someone actually leaves.
We knew that was going to happen.
Funny how that works.
You ever notice?
The guy was a, oh, he was a problem on the job.
15 for 20 years.
Ain't nobody say nothing.
The moment somebody leaves, yeah, yeah, he was a problem.
Yeah, he was probably the best one on the job, too.
Yes.
Let's add that.
The Miami Dolph has announced their captains for the 2025 season, Monday,
but there is one glaring omission.
For the first time since joining the team in 2022,
Tyreek Hill was not voted a captain by his teammates.
Rik himself suggested this offseason
that he likely would not be a captain this year
due to his action at the end of the 2024 regular season
when he removed himself from the finale
and hinted after the game that he wanted to play elsewhere.
Mike McDonald had a very revealing quote.
I'm really excited about the whole voting process in general this year.
The team was much more unified
and the focus was on those six guys was very clear.
Those were resounding vote getters.
We were focused on giving the keys to captaincy
to guys that had earned it each and every day.
That speaks to me,
the most is football team that knows who it wants to be led by.
Yeah, that's cute.
That's cute.
It's commendable.
You know, having your peers on your team,
you know,
Yeah.
Nope.
You know, honestly.
That'd be nice, man.
I wanted the captain C on my jersey.
That's cool.
Honestly, for me, my dolphins, my dolphins,
and those of you in the chat,
I'm from Liberty City,
born in Jackson Memorial Hospital,
Canadian County,
all 12th Avenue.
What I care about is my dolphins
playing well in the postseason.
Is my dolphins playing well
when they play against teams
that are above 500?
Is my dolphins playing well
when the weather is below 50 degrees?
I don't care who's carrying that sea
on that goddamn check.
I just want us to be able to execute offensively and defensively when it matters most.
That's it.
That's it.
But look, there's no way.
It'd have been a joke if he did what he did and he turns around the following year and he's a captain.
Couldn't have it.
They wasn't going to let that happen, no, Joe.
Even if he got 52 votes, he wasn't going to be no captain.
They wouldn't let that happen, no, Joe.
You know that, I know that.
know how it worked we know who they want to be captains come on okay okay okay okay we're on the same page
we're here yeah we here yeah but look i look uh i think reek learned a valuable lesson i think if he
had to do it all over again he definitely would do it a different way he's going through some
stuff right now uh reek uh my heart goes i tell you because i think you're a phenomenal player
i absolutely do and i know there's a that's a lot on your mind anybody to you know you
know being there it's gonna be hey don't don't work bro it's easy to say tell
somebody not to worry about something when they're not going through it but when
you going through it so I mean it I mean it's tough because like you do things they're
like you you in it Ocho he's like in the minute you do you like damn
But I don't, I don't, I don't, I mean,
Rick was in a great situation.
Yeah.
I mean, he went to Miami.
That's where he wanted to go.
I mean, they could have traded him someplace else.
They ask him.
I mean, think, Ocho, think about this, Ocho.
They ask you where you want to go.
You want to go to the Jets or you want to go to the dolphins.
Yeah.
They put it where he wanted to be.
And I get it.
When you had the season come off, he led the league and receiving.
He was, hey, remember last year, Ocho, he was the number one
player voted by his peers in the top 100 yeah your quarterback gets
nicked you're not the same reek people like you lock you know he didn't lose
it's nothing it's just it's just that you know his quarterback got hurt he he he's
dependent on a quarterback that's injury prone the guy's been injury prone since
college he limped into the NFL he probably going to live out of it he had a lot
of injuries when he was that he when he was in Alabama uh uh oh Joe you know he
had the tight rope surgery on his ankle he had the dislocated hill he had the injury the
pinky he had an injury history yeah and guess what he's had a concussion or I don't know if
you want to say concussions or injury but he's had a history since he's been with the dolphins
and Tyreek's future is tied his success his production is tied to a guy that's injury prone
yeah it's kind of like Ocho you
relying on somebody
that's unreliable to get you to work.
Hmm.
Man.
It's tough.
It's tough.
And then he didn't make it no better
because he could have just went there and says,
like, I'm happy to be in Miami.
It's great, great weather, great team.
Right.
Every chance he gets, he tried to take a shot at Mahomes.
Oh, 2,
it's more this than Mahomes, oh, this is that.
And this is, bro, you don't need to do that.
Nobody, you're not, even though you play with both,
you're not going to convince anybody that Tua is a better quarterback to Mahomes.
You're not.
So why you try to do that?
I believe you could, Ocho, I believe you can prop one guy up without trying to put another guy down.
Yeah.
Well, in that situation, that's not putting a guy down because you can't put Mahomes down,
especially in that comparison when it comes to the quarterback position.
but I think Rick has a lot to prove this year
especially coming up last year
obviously them not voting him a captain
boom that's another one
okay y'all ain't want to vote me a captain okay hold my beer
watch this watch this
and he fin to go slap me finn't he go I hope so
go slap off because I mean you know
he's a special talent there are not very many guys
that's played in the history of the game
that had his God-given ability that can take
that can take any route on the field
and he's a legitimate
threat to hit his head on the goalpost.
Now we say that, oh, you give him a fire.
No, no, no, no, no. There have only been
a handful of guys that can
literally take any type of route that you
give them.
And you can strike up the band.
Yeah, every time.
And you see the, you see, hey, you see
he doing that, the band player.
Yeah.
And Rick has that accountability.
He just needs to get back to that.
And hopefully he can focus.
I think being on the field,
it allows you to like tunnel visual, Joe.
Yeah.
It allows you to lock you in.
You got to compartmentalize.
That's what's really good with a great at it.
That's the one place.
Doesn't matter what's going on in life.
You know, once I get to that stadium,
once I get to that grass,
it's different.
Everything else is left outside.
No.
No, I don't know.
somebody said, you put
a tour down and put Tyreek up.
No, I just said he's not my homes.
He's a good quarterback.
He's not my homes.
And Tyreek's production is tied to a guy
that's injury prone.
Did I lie?
How many concussions have he had?
How many times did he get injured
at the University of Alabama?
I'm just giving you facts.
I ain't say he wasn't a bad player.
He a terrible player.
That's not what I said.
I said, Tyreek's production is tied to a quarterback that's injury prone.
That's factual.
That ain't no, that ain't, that ain't, that ain't, that ain't, that ain't no, you know,
stretching the truth.
That's not a lie.
That is just factually correct.
Yeah.
And maybe Tyreek wouldn't have 17, 1,800 yards because he got Kelsey and he got other guys.
But if you go back and look at it, look at his production.
It's 1,300.
It's 1,400.
it's 1,500, it's 1,400, it's 1,400.
It didn't have, though, it didn't have 1,800, and then 900.
Right.
You know what I'm saying, Ocho?
Hey, I mean, you don't want to have no 1,600 one year, then 1,000.
1,000, then 800.
No, you want to be consistent.
Hey, let me be somewhere that consistent.
Let me be 11 to 1,300.
I can live with that.
Right.
One year, if I won't have, you know, have one of your bust out years,
I get me two or three, 200-yard gains,
I'd be on to something.
But, no, I just think the thing is,
and like, you know, you're emotional.
Things didn't go your way.
You're like, damn, I'm going to get 100 yards.
I want to continue my thousand, my thousand, you know,
yard season, Ocho.
That's going to come to an end.
Damn, we're going to miss the playoff.
That's going to come to an end.
Yeah.
And he just got frustrated and it bubbled up.
That's all.
It bubbled up.
made a mistake he'd probably take he'd take and he said it that you know i should have handled
that differently wish i'd have handled it differently and uh you know lesson learned and uh i believe
i believe you i believe you learned his lesson i do yeah absolutely you're gonna bounce back
yeah um but and i think macdonald says that you know let's not focus on who didn't make
it as captain let's talk about the guys that did make it as captain
They're deserving better captains.
That's who they want to lead.
Bradley Chubb, it's time for Chubb to come out there and, you know,
play like the Chub like they gave up the draft picks for it to get him from Denver.
It's time for him to play.
It's time for him to show.
Because it looks like, Ocho, they kind of taking this thing apart.
They let, you know, Kaleas Campbell go.
They let Jalen Ramsey go.
They let some of the, you know, they let Christian Wilkins go a few years ago.
So it seems like, you know, the going for it,
and going for it, going for it.
Now they're like, uh, they get young and younger, huh?
Mm-hmm.
Get young and younger.
Yeah.
So we'll see how it works out for your dolphins this year.
Shador Sanders seems to have, it seems to be the talk of college football after
Arch Manning's disappointing debut.
Fans are calling out the double standard for Arch Manning's pro debut, poor debut versus
Ohio State being excused while Shadour, but wouldn't have gotten the same grace at
Colorado. Why don't you call
Arch Manning, Nipo, baby, like y'all
did, Shudor and Brony.
Ocho, it's Arch Manning getting
a free pass from the media just because
of his last name, while Shadoor would have been
torn apart for the same performance.
Oh, yeah, I mean, obviously,
I mean, that's the way it's always been. That's the way it's
always been. I think watching Dan
Olavski, Dan made some
some good excuses up there,
you know, for, for Ars and the way,
the way Ars played. And obviously,
It's just the makeup.
The makeup of the media makeup is the DNA
and which the way they treat certain quarterbacks
depending on who it is.
And they give them grace.
They give them grace all the time.
And this happens all the time.
It does.
And some people will turn the blind eye to it and say,
oh, that's not true.
They'll come up with some damn conspiracy theory.
When it's like right there, it's right there in your face.
Right.
In your face, what are you talking about?
Yes, they're going to continue to make excuses for them.
If he has another bad game, I think obviously now that they, I think now that they played Ohio State,
some of the games leading forward, going forward, would be a little bit more easier.
And boom, they're going to be right back to, you know, talking good about him.
And we told you he was a generational talent.
That's they're going to go right back into it.
But, I mean, that's neither here nor there.
I think he's going to continue to get better.
Obviously, opening up a season with the team like that.
is for someone that's that's been under the helm,
been on the center for two or three years consistently,
as opposed to this, your first year starting against Ohio State?
Mm-hmm.
And please.
Well, but here's the thing, Ocho, those are the kind of throw,
that's who I want to see and make those throws against.
Yeah.
So what the hell you think?
So what the hell you think the NFL is?
Yeah.
Every week, same thing.
Just think about the Ocho.
If you go out there and you put,
play a good against inferior talent, but when the talent is on your level or better and you lay
eggs, what does that say about you?
If, look, it's a one-time thing.
It can be a one-time thing, but we can point out the fact that he didn't play well.
Yeah.
Because I'm not, hey, he might go on and come back and he might win the Heisman, but two things can be, you know, two things can be true.
He cannot have played well against Ohio State and still play well enough the rest of the season to
win the Heisman or when the SEC or whatever the case may be.
Two things can be true.
Right.
When Shadour played, I said, Ocho, look, it still bothers me that he bails too much.
It still bothers me that he holds onto the ball.
It still bothers me.
We can give credit.
He made some big time throws, Ocho.
Yeah.
I love the dagger throw.
I love to throw where he threaded the needle.
He led the seven route for the first touchdown.
I love the overrout that he would throw.
we see a lot of those from Brock, Brock Purdy.
Yeah.
I say, but, but Ocho still holds onto the ball too long.
Too long.
Man, I thought you, I thought you're supposed to be coach prime boy.
Why?
Because my job is to critique and analyze.
Two things can be true.
I can be times, boy, and still critique his son and say there are some things that are
concerning for me.
Yeah.
That's, that's how the job works.
You give credit when due, and then when you see something, you're like, okay, yeah, he
played well, but there's some things that, hey, let's go ahead and correct these now
before they bite you at the most inopportune of times.
See, people that want you to like, if, oh, that's your boy, no.
Oh, oh, time your boy.
You kill it and I know.
That was a poor game on Saturday.
Yeah.
I mean, what was that Friday that they played.
That was Friday that Georgia Tech played, right?
Friday.
I said that soon as we got on, I said, oh, what was that about?
A minute, seven seconds, you got two timeouts.
you throw one pass behind the line of scrimmage the guy tackled you you don't take a time out yeah
i said that oh oh oh your boy oh you killing your boy now i remember last you he could do no wrong
no when you do it's right you point out the right but when he does wrong you point out the wrong
that's what you do yeah you fair and time will tell you and like he had so many time one thing you
go you go you're going to call it now he says i expect that i'm your boy you call him your boy so
you better call it over to everybody else.
And he's absolutely right.
Um,
do you think Arch would ever fall to the fifth round?
But you'll do away with the draft.
Man, stop it.
Who y'all fool?
Who y'all tried to kid?
Yeah, stop playing.
That ain't happening.
That ain't happening.
But I can see a scenario he comes back because of Manning's normally, normally four years.
Now obviously that's not Peyton, that's not Eli, but, you know, they're normally very scripted, very methodical about how they're going to do things, Ocho.
Very strategic.
And plus, Ocho, his family is not in dire need of anything.
Right.
A lot of times these families, you know, it's like, bro, mom and,
the projects. Grandma over here. Ain't no food refrigerator. The house leaking.
We come on, bro.
Got to get out of here. Yeah. And I understand. I totally understand.
I think my brother told the, uh, the store. I think he said on my podcast because he thought
about coming out as a junior. And they're asking why he didn't come out.
He said, we have been poor for 22 years.
Eight more months won't go hurt nothing.
That's a good one.
He was right.
Hey, I had been going to the woods, Ocho, for 19 years.
Use the bathroom, huh?
Yes.
I had dipped the bucket down in the way of pull it up, pull it up,
poured it and something, take it in the house.
I have been running the holes inside the house and put in the tent tub,
let the sun heat it up, take me up.
take me a bath in the backyard couldn't nobody see what number woods someone was
bad could them skis tear you up ohcho oh yeah think about ohcho you got to take the rage
try to put you a shield around here him take you a quick bath because them skeeter boy they're
like they had swords man no but i but i but i but i but i but i understand i understand
our job is to get better he went to texas because of the success
that Sark has with working with quarterbacks.
Right.
He could have gone anywhere, but he chose Texas for a reason.
And it's not, it's not by accident.
So could I see a scenario where he stays another year?
Yes.
And we got to look, he, he didn't beat Euras out for the job.
Yours were the, was the seventh round pick?
What, what round did you were to get drafted in?
Six to seven.
right he went to the dolphins i forgot what round he went though he went seven he went
seven oh joe but i think hold on i think derrick car was the first the first overall
pick and he couldn't beat billy bollick out see if billy volk went to a fresno state
v o l e k i think that's bollick
Derek Carr.
Played with the Tennessee Titans.
Yeah.
I know.
He didn't he go to Fresno State?
Didn't Derek Carr come behind him?
I don't think Derek Carr beat him out.
So.
It's not, I mean, Joe Burrow transferred, became the number one pick.
Jameson Williams transferred, become a number one pick.
Joe Burrell was the number one pick in the entire draft.
Couldn't get no shine at Ohio State.
But that's thinking, don't you?
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
So this notion, well, he didn't do that, things happen.
So you're saying Joe Burroughs are not any good because he couldn't beat,
I forget the guy.
I think it was the guy that passed away, Ocho.
The black guy that got hit.
Dwayne, Haskins.
Yes, yes.
Things happen.
Yeah.
Ocho, Vegas has Lamar Jackson at the back.
He's back on top for the MVP.
The reigning MVP, Josh Allen, and Joe Barrow are hairs beneath him at plus 600.
Patrick Mahomes rounding out the top.
for at plus $6.50.
Is this the year?
Lamar puts it all together,
wins MVP, and
a Super Bowl.
I mean, it could be the year.
It could be the year.
If it was going to happen,
this is a funny thing
when it comes about,
when it comes to not just Lamar Jackson,
but Josh Allen
and all those other quarterbacks in the AFC,
it's only come to the same,
the same four.
Yes.
the same four same four now what lamar jackson do we get in the playoffs what lamar jackson do we get
in the playoffs that's all that matters so we nobody going to do in the regular season yes
we're going to put up crazy numbers yes going to rush for crazy numbers but what lamar jackson
whatever lamar jacks we get in the postseason that will be if those odds in Vegas come come true
that's all to come down to that's and that's all i've said i've said i said
I want to see the Lamar Jackson that's won the MVP or finish second.
We have yet to see that guy for the totality of the playoffs.
We've seen it for a game, Ocho.
But we need to see it for the totality because we saw it last year.
They didn't turn the ball or he didn't turn the ball over for like eight, nine games.
Right.
And then he had two big turnovers.
And that was, you know, some of that's undoing.
Like, look, and I get it, such a hold on to the ball.
Zay Fly was fumbled on the one.
but he did give the he did give
the chiefs of short field
he got stripped in the pocket
I just need Lamar
to be Lamar in the postseason
that he was in the regular season
I don't need anything else I don't need to be
I don't need anything else Ocho
I don't need him to be anything other
than what he's shown us for the 17
for the 17 games in the regular season
if he's that
if he's that player
can nobody beat the Ravens
nobody
No, well, I don't know about nobody.
Ocho, the man threw 41 touchdowns with four picks.
Hold on, hold on, huh, now?
Don't jump on me.
Don't jump on me.
This is a new season.
With everything you just named is what he did last year.
Now, I'm not saying he can't repeat it,
but there's a team he has a deal within the AFC North.
They own, y'all.
Come again?
They own y'all.
Lamar Jackson owned the Cincinnati Bank.
Let me do something.
The Ravens, that's your team, huh?
Oh, you're supposed to be team that you spent two weeks at?
Two years.
Okay, two years, two weeks is all the same.
You want to best some on that game?
Oh, Joe, it's kind of hard for you to borrow money when you owe money.
Huh?
Oh, you know, I'm, hey, listen, I'm good for it.
Like when I go to-
No, you ain't good for it.
Like when I go to the casino, they just hand, they just give me what
want because they understand. Oh,
Ocho, you hear? Oh, we know we know we're going to
take care of you. What you need? No.
What's your money line? What you mean? I'm a file
what you call them on you.
I'm a file. I'll press charges on you.
I ain't do nothing. How are you going to press charges?
You'll be $5,900 and you won't pay.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. Is it written on paper?
They heard it. Oh, yeah, they got it. We got it. We got it on paper.
Where's it? I didn't sign nothing. I'm, I'm,
you got a sign that. We got a verbal contract.
You bet me.
A verbal,
yeah,
Micah Parsons and Jerry Jones
had a verbal contract,
too.
Nah, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
We got this.
I showed him tape for the tape.
Your honor,
here it is right here.
This is it's here.
Oh,
I bet you.
All right, guys.
It's time for our final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q and A.
And I can't wait today.
Dr. Frank L. Bellamy. Hey, fam.
When I was watching Deboe and Joe today, all I could do was look at Debo's arms and think,
Lord, he's going to kill my poor cousin, Ocho, greatest addition to Shay-Shay Media.
We're going to kill who?
Ocho.
I don't think she understands.
Someone that size with that much muscle, they can't move.
They can't move.
We get so an inanimate size and big and strength.
you know lifting all that heavy weight that don't mean nothing that don't mean nothing i'm
gonna take james harrison nose and i'm gonna turn it upside down so he can smell his forehead
like i'm not playing with him man this this like it's like it's getting serious at this point
in in february that's when it's going it's february what it's going down it's going down
it's going down yeah yeah chat chat make sure all y'all be there too i'm a rob jay said
coach bellichick's going to be all right takes time to learn the system
frustrated fan this game should have been called the poorly dressed head
coaches bowl
man y'all know what y'all get with coach bellichick man y'all know coach belichick going to be
wearing some boogey every time with no with no sleeves
Chris baller said you can be the greatest head coach in the world
but if you don't have the player that can execute at a high level
you're not going to be very good, plain and simple. Chris, that is very, very true.
MSQ said, if you put all the best current college football players,
no matter their graduating class on one team, could they beat the current worst NFL team?
No.
I'm an argument with hype headed to UT because he's a manning quarterback with mobility unlike his aunts.
saying that he'd be like his uncle, but hope he balls out since the first road game was
against the defending champs.
Yeah.
Trey Tynas said, Ocho, I heard you call FAMU the best HBCU other than you might have
forgot North Carolina A&T University, Aggie Pride.
Listen, I love North Carolina A&T.
I've been there a few times, been there with the football team, the coaches.
Obviously, the band is as well.
My daughter had a track meet out there.
I forgot the name of that Soul Food Place.
in trouble to um i took all the football players yeah so who plays and treat them to eat
you sit right in and the plaids in the corner is really good but the greatest hbc u of all time
you know often imitated never duplicated savannah state is the lustrous the tigers
florida a and m marching one hundred the blue and orange savannah state the ss u tigers
who the SSU Tigers oh I thought when you say SSU I thought you was talking about like the Navy
like a ship now okay I would not be a doctor I tell you the reasons why I've been a tiger
for all my life I'm gonna be a tiger till I die it's so hard it's so hard to be a tiger
it's so hard it's so hard to be an SSU tiger don't play with us on show we bought that
we damn all right
Sound good.
Reform try hard saying,
how big is coaching for you in football
is very big?
Just from the outside looking in,
Bama was posting videos like
they on Soul Train before the game
and we saw what happened.
That never happened when the man was there
a few years ago.
Absolutely not.
Right, and also when the man
ain't there.
He had all the players too.
Yes.
That's the difference.
He had all the players.
We talk about a great coach,
but the great coach has great players.
It's easy to be able to execute, which is why Alabama looked like
the Alabama were used to seeing.
They don't look like that now because all the players are going in different places.
You think about an Ocho?
I mean, just had 52 first round draft picks.
Woo.
First round.
Orlando Pinyon, if Jerry Jones doesn't bring it to Cowboys,
you still think the Cowboys go back to back.
That'd have been very, very interesting.
As a matter of fact, Michael Irwin and I was talking about that.
Emmett and I, we have that discussion a lot, too.
They were loaded, man.
They were good.
They were really good.
We'd had to be on our best behavior, our absolute best behavior.
Absolutely.
But Jerry Eagle, we're going to let that happen.
Got in the way.
Still getting in the way.
Yeah.
Deshawn Allen said, what's on Okinocho?
My question is, which position has the moment?
most players in the Hall of Fame.
If I had to guess, probably
quarterbacks. I was just going to
say quarterback, probably. Probably I could
be wrong.
I mean, of starting
positions, probably tight ends
have the fewest. We're not
counting special like punters and kickers and things
like that, Ocho, returners.
Right. But
What is they say?
Safeties?
They got the fewers?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
tackle and all they were considered the opposite line school banks say shout out to my
birthday twins january 9th 1990 we go into tuxies uh what's uh how you spell it yeah
honk you want to go with us no man oh joe i got to be on my best behavior oh jo i'm sorry
unfortunately listen listen listen oh like let's whoa whoa we can't do that we can't what we can't do
is we can't go into a shell.
We are all human.
We all make mistakes.
You learn for your mistakes,
but you still have to live your life.
You have to enjoy yourself.
Hey, we're on the other side of the mountain.
Never forget.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're on the other side of the mountain.
Okay, so we still have to live.
You good.
You good.
I think I got about, I got about eight, nine more months, Ocho.
Okay, okay.
I'm on probation.
I got a probationary period.
Yeah, eight nine more months.
You got your little ankle monitor on right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They got me.
They got me.
September, October,
yeah.
Yeah, probably my birthday.
Probably by my birthday.
I should be, you know, sitting pretty, yeah.
There it is.
Okay.
Yeah, I'll be sitting pretty.
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This happened tonight.
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