Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho say Daniel Jones is in the MVP conversation, WTF is going on with CJ Stroud?! The guys are joined by Melissa Jefferson-Wooden and TeeTee Terry!

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson sit down with Olympic gold medalist Melissa Jefferson-Wooden and U.S. sprint champion TeeTee Terry. They discuss life on the track, the mindset behind competing at the highest level, training stories, and what it takes to represent Team USA on the world stage. 0:00 - Melissa Jefferson Wooden and TeeTee Terry joins the show33:25 - Colts beat Titans35:58 - Bucs beat Jets44:20 - Panthers beat Falcons47:25 - Texans lose to the Jags55:40 - Steelers beat Pats57:50 - Commanders beat Raiders59:21 - Seahawks beat Saints1:00:10 - Q & Ayyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Territ, hello ladies. How are you doing? What's going on? Doing good. MJ, what's up? Nothing. I'm happy. Me's over.

I know you're happy. Double up. I mean, double up. I mean, you did something that hadn't been done since 2013. When Shelly Ann Frazier Prize, you won the 100 going away. You won the 200 going away. You won the first leg on the gold medal winning team in the 4x1. What's to be a bad about?

I mean, maybe you didn't get to, maybe you didn't run sub 106. But I think everything else win according to play. I feel like it balances out, you know, it balances out. But if you ran sub 106, maybe you wouldn't have been as hungry coming in the next year because, what, they got, the ultimate championships or something like that? Yep, right. Okay. So, let me, okay, ladies, you understand.

Basically, it's going to come down to you, the Jamaicans. Great Britain normally has a great team, the Dutch have a job. But you know it normally is the Jamaican against the Americans. That's normally what it comes down to. We'll sprinkle a little Great Britain in there. But, you know, hey, Jamaica, we like you, but we don't love you because y'all always trying to take medals off our necks. So, T, it's raining.

You understand that, look, man, we can't have no slip-ups. We can't let the baton slip out. We've got to be perfect. So, Melissa, when you, the gun goes out, pow, you take our running. And tell me what's going through your mind. And T.T. as you see her coming in, when you get ready to get the baton, I want to know what's going through your mind. So for me, when the gun went off, it was just like try to eat up as much ground as possible. And then I knew, like, so I could visibly see T T T's mark, but obviously it was raining.

But it was raining last year in Paris when we went too. So it was like, you know, we kind of been in this situation before. And then I knew once T.T. took off on the mark, I was like, even if we were, we would rather play it safe and play it, you know, risky with the rain and everything. So T.T. got out and I got the baton in her hand the best way I could at the moment and we just kept it pushing.

Okay, T, T, T, you get it. You already said you're the greatest second leg runner in the history. So you get this. And so you offer, you're offering what I said, oh, kill them T, T. Don't go. Go! So for me, it was myself just making sure I wait for

Melissa to hit the mark because obviously it was raining. You could barely see out, but everybody was dealing with the rain. And I'd rather take out late than too early. So I think I may have took out maybe just a tad bit too late, but I know if she run up on me, we're still safe and I could do what I still could do what I needed to do. We kind of got the baton where I had too much of the baton, but I was like, this not the time to try to fiddle with it.

Running down the track is already raining. You know, it won't move on top. So as I was approaching Kayla, our third leg, I was like, let me just give it to her like this. So it was like, she had the bottom of it. She got the bottom half of it. So I was like, I'm just play it safe. Make sure I stay in my lane. I don't pee nobody and just let Kayla do what she do.

Yeah, because when you headed to Kayla, I thought she had a torrent. And when she had it down at the bottom, I let me, damn. Okay, she takes off and now she goes around and she passes it to you pass it to Kayla. Kayla did something. I don't know very many people know. She was running, and at the last second, she made an adjustment so she could give it to Shakari. did y'all didn't know that at the time until you guys saw it on the replay yeah when i saw well also we was like oh wow no no that was you got relay IQ for

real but she said and i heard of talking to lewis she said i was thinking about it all the time she says i'm not going to i'm not going to fiddle with it until i get closer to she carry because the last thing i want to be doing feeling willing the next thing you know it's on the baton and we happen to be in a favorable position now just let me getting the thing to Cheri, and, hey, whatever, hey, we're here now. The likelihood of somebody running Shakir down, even though this year she hadn't been to Shakary of old, still the likelihood of somebody running her down wasn't very likely. That's for sure.

And I feel, oh, go ahead, Melissa. I was just going to say, I feel like the biggest thing that helped us is that we're all training partners. Like, we see each other every day. We're around each other every day. So the chemistry was there. The trust in each other was there. like no matter at the end of the day, we was going to get the job done.

Like, I feel like yesterday was a great example of when we be at practice and coach be killing us and we'd be like, I don't know how the heck we're going to get through this workout, but we somehow managed to finish the workout. And then after we'd be like, see, you know, even though it hurts, like, it wasn't really that bad. Like, I feel like that was a great example of how our lives been, this whole whatever months. So obviously that America.

that world record, that 40, 82, is that in the back of you guys, is mine? I would say it's in the back of our mind, but it's not something that we constantly always say, oh, we need to try to get this time, we need to try to get this time, we need to try to get this time. I think it's something that would just happen naturally over time.

You know, if you want it too bad, that's when you don't really get it when you want it. But I feel like with the chemistry that we have with each other, us doing relays more often with one another, that it will come in due time. Yes. And the guys finally was able to get the baton around the track. We had Kenny on just last night.

I said, bro, can y'all, can y'all just, can y'all stay in your zone and get the baton around the track? And they did. Yeah, they did. Kristen did a great lead-up leg. He hit Kenny. Kenny passed it off to Courtney. And then once we got in the north, deuce is.

So were you guys Cause the opposite of the men closed it out So were you guys Were you guys watching the men run Because you know, look No matter what you think Canada's going to be there And then when it's all said done

The Canadians Gonna be there at the end They go I don't know I'm like hold on Y'all have not one person In no finals Up other than DeGras and the 200

How the hell y'all keep winning the gold? They got that chemistry If you think about it The past championships It's been just about the same exact four people. I know for sure it's been the same three with Aaron Brown, DeGrad, and Jerome. And all the Duke, Brennan has been on there

for a while with them as well. So they have that chemistry, and we tell people often that it's not necessarily the fastest four people. It's the four that has the best chemistry to get that baton to be smooth around the track. But we was definitely standing there watching because obviously one of our training partners, Aaron Brown runs for Canada. And when he comes to these

championships, he gets in the mode where He don't speak to our guys. He don't say nothing to our guys. I don't know y'all. So that's kind of how he was acting here. So we were telling our guys. Oh, he acted all right now. Well, we don't know you either.

So we, you know, our guys had that mindset. It was like, okay, well, we know y'all won. Y'all did what I need to do. But we come and with it this year. And that's what our guys was able to pull off. Yeah. See, how are you like that? You want to speak to us now?

Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it right now. Go on and take that. going to take that silver medal back to Canada. So what's next, ladies? Are there any more races? Are you going to take some time off now? Is it a situation where we go eat some pizza,

we get a burger, we get some fried? I know, Melissa, you're talking about you want to go home and you want to get some ox tail, you want to eat some good old southern food. So what's going on? So what's next for these ladies? McDonald's. McDonald's for sure.

And I'm actually. I'm actually going to have my first. I'm actually going to have my first McDonald's in Tokyo before I leave. T.T. What you mean? You don't eat McDonald's? I haven't ate McDonald's since high school

sophomore year, and that was 2016. See? There you're going to, T.J. Tell them, you can't put, you can't put no cheap gas in that, and you can't put no cheap gas in that engine and expect it to run like that in that tank. Tell them, tell them, T.T. Yeah, I've got the, y'all got the

McDonald's. I can't. I don't got it. so so what so what's next i mean is there anything if there any more races to run is there any more dialing league meets so what what's going on melissa what's going on diamond league is done we're a championship like this season kind of ended like all the other sports you know where like the super bowl is the last thing for football so for us that was the last meet this year but obviously there's aflos um the meet by serena william husband i'm not in athlos um i'm done with the season but this one she's been announced for athlos but But what you doing?

You're doing Athlos? Yeah, what you're going? Give us some new. Oh, gosh. Okay. Chat, don't eat me up. If you do watch Tracking Field for real. So as of right now, I am in Athos.

But it's looking like I might not be competing in Athlos. I might still be there. Wow. But I probably won't be competing. I probably will be shutting my season down. Yeah, you got to, you got to, I mean, look, we got to, we got a rest. Yeah, I mean, when you look at it, when you look at it, MJ, you look at what you've been able to do, the times that you've been able to run, I mean, you know, back to back 106s and come over here and you run the four rounds and you do what you did 1061, and then you run four rounds and then you run 2168. I mean, oh, hey, you deserve a break.

You deserve a break. Hey, take some time off, go home. I know you're not going to lie yourself. I mean, so let me ask you this. Like an off-season, a TT, you and MJ. So in the off-season, how soon will you start back doing a little like, some like maybe some 50s, some 80s, some Honda? Or y'all just like, hey, hey, hey,

don't call me. When I first joined the group, I asked TT, I was like, so like, do you be doing any? thing, like in the off season before, you know, we all get together. She's like, uh-uh, I don't do nothing. I do, I don't do nothing but eat. I don't come off the couch and go to practice because there's nothing that's going to prepare you for fall workouts with Dennis Mitchell. And I found out myself, she is correct. There is nothing, like absolutely nothing in the world that you could possibly do that could prepare you for what we go through in the fall. I guarantee you.

it doesn't make a difference i went the first year i joined the group uh we had like a basically it was like kind of like an optional week or whatever so the uh coach and shreif came out and they was like they gave us workouts but they didn't give us workouts and like the stuff they was giving us it was like okay like you know that's not too bad la da man we got there that first official day i saw i'm not i'm not coming back i'm not i don't know who i thought i was coming down here to join this group, but I got to leave. Yeah, I don't, I don't really do anything because the season will be so long and you only have a short time period off.

People don't realize that in track and field, we basically run year-round, whether that's us starting in November and then starting our season in March and then run it all the way to September and then starting back up in November. So you don't really have much of a downtown. But going into this far trend, I am going to do a couple of things a little different, probably just do some little Pilates or something in the off-season. to strengthen my body because we've learned a lot about my body throughout the season. And if I want to hit the times and run the things I want to run,

it's some changes that I do have to make one future. So I am going to be doing a little something before I bounce back into fall trainer. But like Melissa said, nothing can prepare you for Dennis Mitchell fall training. Hey, let's go ahead, Ocho. Pam. Oh, you heard me? Huh? Let's go down to Orlando and train with Deniston.

Man, I got artificial here. What am I going to do? Watch? I mean, we could just get you. I don't know. Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining.

And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the country? Colts pretzel. That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? It looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts take away. They sold that?

Yes. Might want to go back to the... At the Colts Stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it.

We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is Sprott. I wouldn't fight him. I would.

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I'm Simone Boyce, host of the Brightside podcast, and on this week's episode, I'm talking to Olympian, World Cup Champion, and podcast host, Ashlyn Harris. My worth is not wrapped up in how many things I've won. Because what I came to realize is I valued winning so much that once it was over, I got the blues and I was like, this is it. For me, it's the pursuit of greatness. It's the journey. It's the people.

It's the failures. It's the heartache. Listen to The Bright Side on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm coming because I got a race Kenny. Kenny were talking shit to me. Oh, yeah, yeah. We're going to see you there. We go, I'm going to, I'm going to make sure. I'm a good. You know, I'm right. I'm right.

I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. A little bright line train ride. That's all it is. That's all it is. I'd be up. So let's just say for the sake of argument, okay, he got, he's seen you guys a workout. Are they timed he says, okay, you got, you got, let's just say for the sake of argument, you got 660s. Does he give you a time?

he says you got 10 120s. Does he give you a time? Say, okay, you got to make these 120s and say 12 seconds, 13 seconds, and you got two minutes, three minutes off. So how's a workout, like, not when you're there, but like when you're on your own, when you were like away from so you guys can come in. I know y'all don't, I know you're not just getting straight up

out of the couch and just going driving down to Atlanta. I'm so serious. I literally roll straight off the couch. Like, I'm not even going down to Miami. I'm going to the whole. hole in the wall spots. I'm going to my favorite spots. I'm knocking food down like I'm eating with a grown man and then I go

and go like I literally don't do anything because I've like there's so much with my body like my body is so dense like even the first year I was coming to the group I asked him hey coach is anything you want me to do before I come to the group like not really but you can do like some little jogging around the block or something

like that yeah I try to go jogging around the block my legs cramped up before I even stepped out the house. So I say it's the point of me doing anything because I'm just I'm not nothing's prepared me for Dennis Mitchell my body has gotten better has adjusted to it

throughout the years but it's bad like ultra when you come and you see it in person what I go through with my body you wouldn't believe unless you dare to witness with your own eyes I'll be there TTP going through it should be going through it so so

I mean obviously an NCAA season obviously you have so many more athletes and things of that nature. What makes this work out so difficult? Is it the volume? Is it the intensity? Is it the, is it?

Yeah, I mean, I mean, because, you know, one time, you know, like we used to, obviously it's not compared to you guys, but we run, let's just say we do 15, 2150s. Or we do, we do 20, 25, 110. Okay, that's the volume. Okay, now we might cut that down and say, okay, we're going to do 15, 1,10.

but we got 14 seconds to make the time and then we got 45 seconds rest. So we got pretty good volume, but we got damn good intensity. Is that what it is, the volume and the intensity or which is just the sure volume of it? It's both. It's both.

Like, okay, I will say when we get back, like the first week be rough, obviously because most of us is just coming off the couch. But coach is also like, he sees us. So he's like, all right, like, you know, like, let's just get the body back moving. But like most of the times, so as the week progresses or as the weeks go on, like, it'll go from just finish the workout to like, no, I need you to be hitting these times through these splits and all that stuff. Like if anything, I think the, I think the thing that makes it the hardest, which was the most, the biggest challenge for me coming in was when we run, like he wants all of our runs to be very consistent.

so like say for instance like you will have or I won't say we'll have I never ran that say for instance we 500 well yeah 500 so like say for instance I feel like in anybody else's camp like if they have a 500 they'll try to blast the first 100

or first 200 and then like settling for the next one and then just try to finish hard coming home but coach is like now if you're going to start out that fast you need to finish that fast type deal. Oh, hell. Yeah. Hell.

One thing by his coaching is we go through, he like to time the hundreds. So like Melissa, if we have a 500, if you come through that first 100 at 20 seconds, he wants your second 100 to be 20 seconds. Each one he wanted to be 20 seconds. Obviously, the 400 and 500, like the last 200 and probably get a little bit slower, but he don't want to coming through at 14 and then now you fade into like 20s. That was the, I.

Oh, okay. Yeah, okay. I'll get out, and then it's like on faith and bad at the end. So he just be like, okay, T, T, T, you don't try to run with the girls today. I need you to make your own group, and this is the times I need you to hear. These are the times I need you to be consistent with. And that's something that I've learned throughout the fall train of just trying to get better like that and keep decreasing each week because normally coach have what we repeat the same workouts

two weeks in a row. So like we'll do it the first week, don't know. what you got until you get to the track. And then the next week we know what we got. And sometimes he may add an extra set or something to it, but your body kind of get used to it because it knows what was coming. What you expect?

Whereas that first week, you don't know what to expect, what you get to get at you. And for me, coming from the NCAA system, when we was in Spikes, the first day we started practice to someone like Dennis Mitchell, where you start in the grass for weeks, and then you go to the track and you're still in flats. And then you go to spikes.

That was something my body had to, adjust to, um, I went from doing so much intensity to doing straight volume and intensity that my body just had to find a way to respond to those situations and be able to, you got to adapt to that type of training. And like I said, it's been getting better over the years because where I started from, baby, with a crump up, exam streams cramp up, everything be cramping up at the same time. But it's gotten better over the years. Still some more stuff to figure out, but we're going to figure it out. You started from the bottom, but now you're here. I mean, that running, people don't understand that.

I mean, like I said, we used to do the track workout. There's nothing like you guys, because we see the guys that actually ran track, and we're looking at the time they ran, we're like, oh, no, we couldn't do with two of those. Yeah. We'd be done. And you guys to be, so how long do the workout normally take hour, two hours? It depends on us. Yeah.

If we BSing around and we lollipacking and we just talking and Kiki-Kin, it'd be pretty long, but if we in and trying to be in and out do our drills on time it'd be pretty quick because we already it'd be short workouts yeah um especially in the fall yeah especially in fall training then like we have like repeat 100s well those doges hundreds they'd be quick but they be dead you know that's t t's kryptonite for sure I just had to learn to deal with them because when I came in the group and was injured that's the only workout I could do I hate and I just yeah I just So you hate to repeat. Oh, I hate him bad.

Oh, Coach, no. He'll be trying to, that's how he tried to get me. I need you to finish. I need you to lead this last one knowing I'm dead in the back. Give me over there. I don't even know what I'm saying. Hey, Coach, you know, a predator we're attacked from the back.

I got to make sure everybody's safe up front. So let me go on to hang back here. Ladies, I just wanted to say, Nightcap family, we're extremely proud of you. Melissa, what you've been able to do. congratulations we love you guys we try to show as much support as we can uh uh the track and field family t t a unbelievable second leg run you did the same thing in paris you did it again in the world championships congratulations hey i'm exa oh cho and i we expect in a low time we

expecting you know 10 80 we hey we expect the 10 cents we sub 1080 we're going we're going below 108s we don't get okay so we can expect to sub 1080s yeah look T-T-T, if anybody is long overdue for a sub-10A performance, it is T-T-T-Terry. So I'm excited for next year for her. I'm excited for both of you guys. I don't know what, what's really going on. T-T, are you going to do indoor season? Are you doing indoors?

No, we don't really do indoor since the season be so long. And then also, the coach, we just never really did indoor. Like, my first time every doing indoor was in college. And then my last during indoor was college, coming from. from South Florida, you don't really have much indoor meets or any indoor tracks at all. Besides, they just built one at Gainesville. But I was never a big indoor person.

I just did what I needed to do in college and then never touched it again. But I'm interested in doing it at least one of the years while I'm professional just to see where I'm at. So, okay, MJ, give us your social media handles where they can find you on IG, where they can find you on X, where they can find you on Facebook.

Same thing for you, TT. Okay, Instagram, it's at underscore, underscore Melissa J19 and on X is at Melissa Janay 21 and Facebook is Melissa Janay. Okay. Me for Instagram is can only be me

underscore underscore and then on Twitter is T.T. Terry underscore and then on Facebook is just T.T. Terry. You know, it could have been just T.T. Terry on. What happened was so I started boot up. my fan base in high school and they got used to can't only be

me underscore underscore and then when I was going to change it I end up getting verified and then once you get verified you try to change you got to do all this documentation and then a lot of people love the can't only be me underscore underscore and that's all they knew. So I didn't want to change it on my OGT

babies and then they confused trying to follow me so what I did was I just put Tony Shatiti Terry in my bio so if you do search my name it is still taking my page. It'll show up. Yeah. All right. Well, ladies,

go ahead. I just want to say T.T. also has a children's book. T.T.'s World Adventures that she made for the Little Tea Babies. And then she also has a foundation. Tell them about your foundation, girl. Tell us, tell it, yeah. Tell us about it.

Yeah, so I do have a children's books. T.T. Terry's Royal Adventure, available on Amazon or on my website if you want to autograph, copy. And then I have my nonprofit and foundation. starting blocks for dreams in corporation and starting blocks for dreams foundation. The nonprofit is a 501c3, so if you donate to it for the companies or the big timers, it is a tax write off. But basically the mission is to provide services and resources to socioeconomically challenged talented youth

by providing them services through community support initiatives, educational programs, and just pouring back into the community. I feel like that aspect is missing these days for the young athletes, When I was growing up, it took a village to help me get to the level that I am today. The days my parents couldn't even make track me or even go out the state with me. I had the coaches to step in. I had people to step in and purchase my packages or purchase my uniforms. And I feel like a lot of that is missing for the youth today.

They're so talented, but they just don't have their resources and falling short of being able to achieve their goals, achieve their dreams. So I started that this year. And I'm in this offseason. That's going to be my main focus is getting things up and running. scheduled on how I want to go into next year to start giving back. I want to start locally in Miami,

giving back to my hometown, and then eventually venture off to other states and other countries and other areas. Well, congratulations, ladies. Melissa, congratulations on a great season, great world championships. TT, congratulations.

I mean, hey, do you be running the hell out those relays? We're proud of you. America's proud of you. Nightcap is extremely proud of you. Ladies, stay safe. good luck next year and come back, come back and talk for us again when we can do this thing all over. It's going to be a real current theme

because I'm expecting you guys doing a lot more races, a lot more medals. So congratulations later than thanks for joining. Thank you. Have a good with that, guys. Melissa Jefferson Wooden and T.T. Terry. You know Tee?

That was unbelievable. You know Tee from the career, Matt? Yes, she said she was from Miami, Ocho. Oh, she went to Miami-N-Westson. Teddy Bridgewater? Yeah. Yeah, you know, yeah, okay. Yeah, we breed, we breed, we breed them down here, but running, yeah.

It was great. I mean, Melissa had a great season. She did something that only Shelly and Frasier Price had done, I mean, hadn't done since 2013. She won the 100, your 200, and won the 4 by one goal. T.T. run an outstanding leg. She's been on three world championship gold medal winning teams and the 11th. in Paris last year. So congratulations to all the ladies that they're

participated in this, they brought the goal home. Guys, same thing. Hey, Kenny, Kristen Coleman, Courtney, Noah, congratulations. Hey, we almost had a clean sweep today. The women did an outstanding job in the 4x4. Obviously, Sid read an outstanding leg. The men wasn't quite able to pull it off today. Botswana ended up nipping set the wire, but it was a great. It was one of the great four-by-four that you'll ever see. South Africa, hey, they're coming.

The world got some up and coming 400s, but we'll be back. We'll be back. But congratulations, lady, to all the, hey, Ocho, we got like 26 medals. We won like 16 goals. Yeah, we good. We molly-wapped them.

Now, not Jamaica. Don't you jump in here, time. Because, see, when y'all win, y'all don't, oh, we, oh, we beat y'all. Y'all got 340 million. When we Maliwap, y'all we're all your country. We ain't got with two million people. I ain't trying to hear all that.

Because when y'all win them gold medals, it ain't like all of a sudden y'all lost some population. You're the same population. You got two and a half, three, four million people. So go and take the L. And Jamaica just to let's just so you know

we have reached out to some of your athletes and ask them to come on. We have not heard back. I don't want to put nobody name out there who we reached out to, but we did reach out to some of the Jamaicans, some of the ones that you really know, and we asked them what they'd like to come on. We have not heard back. So we take anybody. You don't just have to be America to come on, although we do like to show support for our own. That's what we do. We'll take the Jamaicans. We'll take someone from the Dutch. We'll take Tobogo. We'll take

Femkebo, hey, if you can speak English, you understand what Ocho and I say it? Come on. Hey, in that effect, if you speak Spanish, French, Portuguese, whatever it is, I speak on. We have to get, we'll have to turn the, the thing on to get to interpret. I can translate for you. Don't worry about it. Ocho, you barely, you and I barely speak English,

so let's just speak to that right there. Let's just, let's just, let's just, Let's just stick to that. We got no term that can speak Portuguese or Spanish or Mandarin or anything like that. Look, we want to show the world of track and feel, love and support because we are big fans of track and feel. Obviously, we're going to show love and support to our Americans and not just the sprinters. Hey, hell, I like to get Ryan Krauser. I'll take Valerie Olman.

I'll take Cole Hawker. Hey, hey, we'll take, we'll take any. take any of them. Guys that meddled, and because we want to show you our appreciation, and that we greatly appreciate what you've done for the country as far as winning medals. And we know the time and effort and energy that it takes to be

great, to be the best in the world at something. And we want to give you your flowers and let our chat, let our fans, and followers see you. You know what I do like to on? About that knows that run at the highest level on here is the fans or the people that are watching on TV,

they get to see the finished product. They get to see the end product, but they never get to hear the stories about the work that's put in throughout the long season to get to where they are now to understand why they're running the time that they are running. So I like hearing T.T. and Melissa explain the workouts and how difficult the training is and how it's so difficult working with Dennis Mitchell, where you don't want, there's nothing you can do. So there's no point in preparing to get to him. you might be just roll off the couch and just get that work in. Yeah, it is. The unknown, the unknown workouts are always tough.

It's amazing how the body works. Because like, if I go into the gym, I mean, when I used to do CrossFit Ocho, I like to get there and see the workout on the board. Then I can visualize it, what I'm going to do. But if I got there late, if I was running a few minutes late, and just warmed up and got into it and didn't really know what to expect.

The workout seemed so much harder. It was like my body was compared, like, okay, Shuddy, you know, you got 50 kettlebell swings, you got a 500 meter roll, you got a 30-cal back ride, you got 15 squat depressed, you got, you know, 15 pull-ups, you got, you know, it's like, my mind's like, okay, okay, that's what I got. What was that, it was CrossFit? Yeah.

Oh, hell, nah. I mean, sometimes, don't you go there and you just have a 5,000, you'd have a 5,000 meter row or you have a 10,000 meter row or you have a 100 or 200 cow bike ride. But you know your boy, before your boy got there, oh, your boy used to row.

Yeah, you can still do it. Oh, yeah, I can still row. Yeah, I still row. Because that's really rowing and I do the assault bike. I once did 50 cows in a minute. Anybody do CrossFit, you know that's a good time. O'Shea was hell when he was well.

You know, Ro, my best is like, in the 1,000 meters, I could do like 2507-ish, 258. I think for 5,000, I think the best I've done is like 17 minutes. Wait, so you don't do CrossFit no more? I have, I'm trying to find a gym. I like to do the classes. I don't really be doing what I like to do the class because I ain't really trying to do all that.

I ain't trying to do what, like, the CrossFit games. Right. I like it broken down on the class. class, you know, 25, 30 people, and we all do it. I ain't really trying to do it. Wait a minute. Whoa, you're cooking. Unk, you're cooking.

Now you just gave me an idea. What? We need to do crossfit competition. Duos, me and you competing against other people. Man, Ocho. First of all, Ocho. Hey, I can't go below 90 degrees in the squat because I don't want my hip to pop up. That's fine.

We have a spotter. But it's not, but it's not, it's a no squat. So I, like I said, I can do the swings. I can do the snatches. I can do squat depressed to a certain degree. I don't go below 90. I can do pull-ups. I can, you know, I can't do Kipping pull-ups because of my shoulders.

I got broken collar bones and all that scar tissue in my shoulder. But when it comes to the cardio aspect of it, when it comes to a row, you do it, let's just say you do 250 or 400 or 500, 750,000, you know, I can roll. I can do the assault bike, you know, you know. 30, 50, 100 cows. I can do the erg. Well, the erg bike. I can do that.

When it comes to the cardio stuff, I can do. I can do the swings. I can do the push-ups. I can do, you know, the renegrade row. I can do things like that. Yeah, we're going to do that. We're going to compete. We're going to, we're going to compete.

We're going to compete against somebody. And I think we're going, I'm going to put an application. I'm an application for me and you to be on Survivor. Survivor? Yeah. Oh, boy. Ocho, when you think Ty, we got tired to be on Survivor and do this?

No, we're going to, I mean, Survivor ain't nothing, but about a week of filming. No, it's longer than that, don't you? Well, we're going to make it sure because we're going to be the first one of the pot of that beer. Hey, this is Matt Jones. Now, I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL cover zero.

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Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that? Yes. Might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations.

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because we're definitely going to be up out of that. That's a big. Quick. The Colts, Colts beat the Titans 412. Coates entered the week tied for the leading yards per play rate, second and offensive expected points added. That trend continued today. Indiana Jones looks like a different guy.

After going seven for nine, 130 yards, and a touchdown on pass his throne, at least 10 yards downfield today. He's now completing 65% of such throws this season. He completed 50% of them in his first six seasons. Colts have punted just once this season. they scored on 77% of the offensive possessions. That's the highest mark for any team in the first three games

in the past 45 seasons. The Colts are one of four teams to not commit a turnover this season. Indiana Jones is in the MVP discussion, don't you? That's crazy. It's unbelievable how Daniel Jones is playing on. He is. Obviously, the New York Giants wrote him off, all the things that were said.

The hymn through the media, it's great to see. It's great to see that the Indianapolis Colts have found their quarterback. Again, they're still only week three, but what they've done so far, he might be the answer. He might be the answer. He might be the quarterback that's been missing since Andrew Luck and since Peyton Manning left. Yeah. I'm excited for them.

I'm excited. I think the thing is, Ocho, because they're so efficient offensive, their defense is well-rested when they get on the field. So here's that burning, I think about it. They got one punt in three games. So that means the offensive possession of the ball, the defense, when they come out there,

they're well-rested. So now all of a sudden, we can pin our ears back. We're not tired. It's not like, hey, we just got up the field after giving up a field goal or touchdown, and the offense turns the ball over, and we're right back on the field.

There's none of that going on. So now when they get on the field, they can hunt. Yeah. They can hunt. That damn, Hunter, just, Hunter, collecting a check. Yeah, he gets free money. And he didn't do, he's getting free money. That guy, hey, we talk about Danny Dimes off.

Man, Jonathan Taylor then came out to gate swinging this season, boy. Yeah, for sure. My goodness. Yeah. He's toting that rock. Jesus Christ. I mean, he's done it before, so we shouldn't be surprised. Also, the Bucks beat the Jets, 29, 27.

The Bucks defense went from a dominant fourth quarter meltdowns to running two touchdowns with a third coming on special teams, Blockfield goal, returned by touchdown by Will McDonnell, the fourth. giving the Bucks a one-point league with $1.49, but for the third time this season, the Bucks managed to come from a high win in the final minutes of the game. They've reached three and a Ocho, excuse me, for the first time since 2005, a Mecca, one-hand catch in the first half, woke taple out of early funk, led to a Mike Evans touchdown.

The early offensive rookie in the year, favorite finished with six catch of 85 yards, including that one-hand, a big 288. yard catching run on the game winning drive. Baker Mayfield has three game winning drives in the fourth quarter this year. And look, he said this game was special. You didn't know about it. I forgot that Steve Wilkes, Steve Wilkes used to cut your Savannah State. Um, so I know Wilkes. Uh, I forgot that he was the head coach of Carolina. He's the D.C. of the Jets. But he was the one Baker said he cut me when I was in Carolina. So it was, It was a little personal for me.

It was a little personal. I think Hassan Reddick is there. The Jets got rid of him. So he's like, yeah, yeah. But I thought Baker did a break junk. I forgot nobody, because nobody. I don't think I didn't read anything where anybody talked about it. So he did a great job of bottling it up.

Say, hey, I'll talk about this after the game. Baker after the game said the decorinator Steve Wilkes was the one that cut me in Carolina. So a lot of stuff was personal day. Hussar Redica, former jet, a lot of people. So, but Baker. is playing unbelievable. He played unbelievable again. He made three weeks in a row. They've needed Baker to come up big and he's done exactly that. So another guy that, you know, where he's going to be

in the MVP discussion. They keep winning and I think they're going to win that division. But Baker's playing extremely well. Now, we've got to see Mike Evans. He went out with a hamstring injury. But at some point in time, they're going to get Chris Godwin back. I don't know if I was keeping one eye on the game and watching, you know, three or four other games. But eventually he's going to come back and be full strength and he'll be able to play. So maybe he can come back in and hold a fort down

until Mike Evans come back if Mike is going to miss some times. But Ibuka, he's a real deal, huh? Ohio State receivers. He is the real deal. Now, I think the Bucks probably feel a lot more confident that, okay, Mike Evans is. down you know what you make a book

and he can come into that spot and still be efficient and know what Mike Evans does. I'm not saying he's Mike Evans. I'm just saying he's played so well what he's done in training camp, Sizzigan draft that obviously he's put in work the first three games of the season and he looks good doing it. I think

they're going to be all right at the receiver position. He looks unbelievable. He looks unbelievable. Hey, man, did you see a B. DeVeyer doing the aura? No, I miss it. Oh, yeah. I missed it.

What do you got a sack? Nah, hold on. Oh, Jamel Dean got a pick six. Yeah. And so, yeah, he was at the front of the boat.

He was doing this little, he was doing this little thing. Oh, man, I missed it, man. Somebody clip that he sent it to me on Twitter, man, Vita Vita Vita Vah. The aura.

Man, man, Bita Vand, no, he can't stand on that boat. That boat capsizing. But it was, it was,

It was great to see, but you've got to give Baker's credit. Baker's playing unbelievable. There ain't no way around it. He's making the plays. He's filing filed a home. He's filed somewhere. Baker about to get a big contract while you bulljabing after the season. Again?

Yeah. He only signed a three-year deal. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Beg about to get a monster.

Yeah. Beg about to get 50 plus. He deserve it, huh? Deserve it. He deserve it. deserve it. And maybe that's what he needed because he went to Texas

Tech, had an issue, walked on the University of Oklahoma, he used all that for motivation. Maybe that's what he needed. Maybe Cleveland did him a favor. He didn't realize at the time. We don't realize things at the time. Carolina did him a favor.

Right. Got him here. Got him in a better spot. Perfect. Sometimes, you know, you're not going to move so God will move you because he knows you won't move on your own

his maker say you ain't got no choice you ain't got no choice they don't want you over there so you got to go I like that and look at what he's been able to do since he's been in Tampa since he's found a home since he's found an organization

Jason Light Todd Bowles believe in him they'll allow him to be Baker Mayfield he can't be anything other than Baker Mayfield some people call it cocky. Some people call it arrogant. Call it whatever you want to. But they allow him to be him and allow him to lead in the way that he knows how to

leave. Everybody doesn't lead to save. Everybody doesn't play to save. Everybody doesn't have the same mannerisms when placed in the same situation. They allow him to be him. Therefore, they get the best out of him. And it's been unbelievable to watch.

It's been unbelievable to watch. Because even in his best, he didn't look like this in Cleveland. No. No. Not at all. But, uh, would you say, Ocho? Yeah, I was going to say it. Shit, Daniel Jones ain't looked like this in New York. No.

No, he didn't. But, you know, you get somewhere they believe in you, Ocho. And, you know, sometimes all it takes is somebody to believe in you. You want somebody to believe in you. Yeah, I believe in myself. But if I believe in myself and you're not giving me the opportunity or you keep trying to tell me I need to be somebody that I'm not. Not, yeah.

That's, I can't, I'm trying to, oh, here it is right here. Todd Rod played well. He was 26 and 36, 196, 197, two touchdowns. He did throw an interception. Baker was 19 or 29, 233, one touchdowns, only got sack once. They ran the ball 34 times for 122 yards. So we'll see how, how long Mike Evans is down and how that impacts the offense.

But I think if they were to get Chris Godwin back, I think they'll be just fine. They have Sterling Shepard, who was a starter receiver for the Giants, who, you know, seems to be coming back. He turned, I think he tore his ACL a couple of years ago. He finally starts to look like the Sterling Shepard that he was early in his career at the Giants. He's starting to look like that guy again. So obviously, Bucky Irvin.

and Rashar White being able to run the football, that definitely helps their running game. But all that's fighting good is Baker in that defense that's going to, Baker throwing the ball in that defense. Todd Bowles, we know Todd Bowles can call defense. And he got guys, Levanti Davis playing well, Vita Valleah, Jamel Dean, and Antoine Winfield, Jr.

He can make plays. He's all over the field. he's all over the field he's a hard player Jesse and uh let's be real tamper the cream of the crop in the NFC side I mean I wish there's something

I wish there's something I mean Ocho Pennies need to get that thing together and they got they cut Youngway or Koo they might need to get him back have you left yet come back

Hey, um, man, kick it is very difficult, huh? It's a lot of pressure. There's a lot of pressure on them kickers,

man. There's a lot of pressure to everybody out there. Yeah, but I think kickers are a little bit more so. Listen, the game,

the game is on the line with your leg, on your foot. That's a whole lot of pressure, man. Well, we don't have pressure on us to get your ass in position

so you can have the pressure on your leg, your foot. Yeah, you're right. You're right about that. Quarterback got pressure. he got to throw the ball.

Off his line got to have pressure because they got to make sure they got to get beat and hit the guy in the back of them fumble. We got to pressure. We got to make sure we catch the ball and not pop it up in there and get picked off. So everybody dealing with pressure. Everybody got to deal with something.

Bring your ass, funky ass out there and kick that ball through the upright. Listen, the Falcons is there. Arthur Blank, if you need your kicker, if you need your consistent kicker, you got one right here, then you never miss. And, I mean, they ended up taking pendix out and put first cousins in.

That ain't good, though, Joe. Hold on. Hold on. See, that's one of the few games I couldn't see. I had, I was watching. He was bad. Pinnix was awful today. It was that bad?

He was terrible. Terrible, capital T. Damn. One game, one game, one game. Was it that, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. It was that bad where they had to put guys, damn kirk in it was bad Ocho he was awful

Jesus Christ what the hell was he was underthrowing he was throwing pigs he was just like he was all over the place it was it was not good it was not good today Ocho as a matter of fact let's go ahead and talk about

the Panthers beat the Falcons 30 to nothing the last time the Falcons beat somebody 30 to nothing it was Atlanta Falcons they shut them out week 17 Carolina put the clamps on the Falcon, 11 quarterback pressure through three quarters, Flummix, Michael Pennix, Jr. In an very inactive day, ineffective day.

Pennings was 18 to 36, 172 yards, two interceptions, including the game-changing picks, the Chey Wood, Smith Wade, gave Carolina 17-point league. He threw one so late in the flat. It went the other way, huh? It wasn't good today, Ocho. It wasn't good.

I mean, he was all over the place. You're throwing it high, you're throwing it low, you thought it was not good today. And Rahim, I thought, did a great job. Just say, son, come on, just come on over here. You're not going to get it back today. So just come on over here and just watch for the rest of the day. Damn.

Yeah, it was bad, Ocho. And we thought the Falcons are going to have a high-powered offense, Ocho. Yeah, they got B. John Robinson. I thought, too. They got what's the guy, the receiver from USC? Drake London. Drake London.

And they got, and they got Kyle Pitts. Mooney. Mooney. And like I said, Bejohn, they got Algeria. Ray Ray Ray MacLeod. Yeah, yeah, Ocho. They look. They got a whole lot of weapons not to be,

I mean, obviously to be putting up a donut. Rahim said that was an emotional win. we had last week. We ride that emotional roller coaster. Today, we had an all-time low. I mean, I think about, Ocho, to get shut out in the game? Yeah. In today's game?

You know who they play, right? Carolina. Yeah, they play the Panthers. What are you talking about? I told me that's my team to watch out for. I told you, now, you listen to me when I tell you, now. I'm telling you, keep pounding, y'all. Keep pounding.

Ocho. Hey, Bryce Young, I see you, boy. Hey, Bryce Young. We got to have a conversation. Oh, shit, what happened? The Texans dropped the O and three. The offense struggled again, scoring only 10 points. It's the third straight game in which the offense fell short of 20 points.

C.J. Stroud led the unit gain 119 yards of office through three quarters. And now the Texans find themselves three games behind the coach, two games behind the Jags, and the AFC. C.J. Stroud has not thrown for 250 yards in the game since week 11 last year. Oh, Joe, we got to have a conversation now. I mean when you say have a conversation Now

What's going on with C.J. Stroud? Oh, okay, okay. That's, that's, I, I, I have no idea. I have no idea. Slump? Maybe. A two year slump? Because last year, because remember how you looked at his rookie year?

Everybody said, everybody looking for C.J. Stroud. And then last year. Now, he picked right up where he left off from last year. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what the issues are. I'm not sure what the issue are. Is he rushing things? Is he processing it the same way he did as his first year?

Have teams now that they have film on him, are they able to confuse them and kind of make them indecisive when it comes to his decision making as a quarterback? I'm not sure. I'm not sure exactly what. what's going on. I mean, when I, when I watch him play, I,

he doesn't look the same like he did his rookie year. That's for damn sure. What, what do you think? What do you think it is? I mean, he had 10 points today, Ocho. He was 25 or 38, 204, one touchdowns, two interceptions.

I know the quarterback gets the blame for most of the things. but you think, is it more than just him in general? He gets credit for most of the things. Good, too, don't it? We never say, is it him or you think it's somebody else? No, we give him credit. He's pulling the trigger.

He's got to play better. I don't know what, I don't know what, me personally, I don't know what's going on. I just know he has not played well. I mean, played well here or there, but this is not the game. guy that we saw everybody lauded over and raved about his rookie year. He's not that guy.

He hasn't been that guy for an extended period of time. And the question is I need somebody to help me understand why. What is it? Because as far as I know, he's focused. I mean, you know. Damn. Who they play next week, Ash? I just need to watch that game.

I think I need to just watch that game. give me some insight I mean offensive line not protected him they play the Vikings oh the Titans they play the Titans my bad I mean how long you think before

Tank Dale come back on he ain't come back this year God damn it so ACL dislocated his knee that thing was Rick man we got we got we got Nick We got Joe Mixing coming back in another week. Nico Collins had eight for Buck O'4 in the touchdown.

Dalton Shultz had five for 39. Christian Kirk had three for 25. Christian Kirk is going to round in the shape. He's been, you know, he's kind of been Nick. That's right. You need one more weapon. One more, one more weapon. It shouldn't, it shouldn't be this bad, though.

They, uh, he shouldn't be. And the game was there for the taken. could have. They could have easily won this game. They had 19 rushes for 87 yards. He got to do a better job protecting the football. That's one thing he's got to do. Yeah. They got the Titans at home, at Baltimore, at Seattle, 49ers at home, Broncos at home,

Jags at home, at Titans, Bill's at home, at Colts, at Chiefs. So it ain't going to get no easy. Hey, is an O-line play? He's getting killed back there? Uh, he got sack today two for 20. They got some pressure on it.

Yeah, but you know what that does to you, huh? You know, getting hit over and over and over. It started to router you. You start to speed things up. You don't see to feel like you should. You don't process things. Go through your reeds the way you normally would.

I don't know. Listen, I think they need to add another weapon. I think they need to add another weapon. It takes some of that pressure off of CJ. So he's not trying to do so much, you know? And in this game, Ocho, Travis Hunter played more defensive snaps, 41, then offensive snap 35 for the first time.

I tried to tell him, I thought he'd be better starting on the defensive side and then plug plays in, but hey. He made it, made a nice play. Made him real nice play on the... Oh, yeah, yeah, Roddy, felt like he was going to cut back inside and he spun up out of there? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but I, I'm trying to put my finger on it. What is it? What is it with CJ? Maybe, maybe, maybe we put too much expectations on it because of the season that he had his rookie year, Ocho. Maybe, maybe we, we expected a little bit too much after his first year. But he did that. He had that outstanding rookie season.

He was the guy that, like, man, Ocho, I don't know if we'd ever, if we were talking about, I don't know if we ever seen a guy play that well in his rookie season. That's what we were talking about. bad you bawling boy he was balling he he bawled he bawled he bawled you see this is but this is the same thing i said about malic neighbors he was great his rookie year touchdowns catches yards yeah well it's easy when they don't have that film on you it's easy when you're rookie and defensive coordinator's like i'm not making no covers adjusted to based on where you lined up who the hell are you oh now

now we have film on you now you arrived The point of being great and being good at your job is when they know you coming and you still get the job done. That's where it count. It's easy to surprise somebody, you know, when you're a rookie, but can you continue to do a year in and year out and be consistent at it? That's the problem.

And the thing is that CJ is expectations now. Yeah. You have expectations. Out the roof. You look at that team, you have Will Anderson, Jr., you got Danelle Hunter, you got Stingley Jr., you got Nico Collins. Bro, you got expectation.

They expect you guys to win the division, to go in the playoffs, make a deep run. That's the expectations that you did based on what you did your rookie year. Right. So this is what you've done. And this is what you want. You want that kind of,

you want those level of expectations. Absolutely. Because if you're not a good player, you don't have expectations. And for you to have the kind of expectations because of the way you played and the kind of the team they have around you, yeah, they can get better offensive,

some better offensive line play. But CJ hadn't played well in a while. Consistently. Yeah, he'll have a game here or there, but consistency is the thing that makes us who we are when we're dealing with professional sports. It's the consistency. It's the game in and game out.

No, you're not going to play pass for 300 yards every single game. You're not going to throw two, three touchdowns, but it's the consistent play. He's been very, very inconsistent. sister. He's been up and down, up and down. And he's going to have to find a way to level this thing off and get some calm. Or, but I'm surprised

if you had to have told me that he was going to play like this to start the season. I wouldn't have believed it, Ocho. I wouldn't have believed it. Absolutely. Steelers beat the Patriots 2114. Patriots committed five turnovers and an unofficial six after being stopped on fourth down in the final minute. Drake May

lost a fumble through a pick. Remandre Stevenson coughed up two fumbles. One, at the goal line, both players turned the ball over inside the Pittsburgh two-yard line. May has also thrown two more passes that could have been picked that were dropped by the Steelers. The last time the Patriots lost four fumbles in a game was against the Cleveland Browns, 192 when Bill Belichick was the coach of Cleveland. The last time they had five turnovers in the game, Mike Braver was on the field with them, Week 13, 2008, also against the Steelers.

Aaron Rogers was pressured only four times. wasn't sacked on 23 pass attempts. Rogers passed his former teammate, Brett Farb, number four all-time and touchdown passes with 510. Now Rogers' only trails, Peyton Manning, 539, Drew Brees, 571, and Tom Brady, 649.

Yeah, I think Tom Brady's only safe. Yeah. That was an ugly game today. It was good, it was. It was. That was a ugly game today. But the Patriots, bro. I mean, Ocho, they're following the ball like two yard line.

The ball ended up going in the end zone. But you know what? He wouldn't have been back in the game if Bill was still there. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Turn the ball over? Oh, come on over here, sit with me real quick. Come on over here and sit with me. But he do not, boy, he do not play that.

Now, that's, oh, man, that's taking points off the board. You points? Commanders beat the Raiders, 41-24. Marcus Marriota was the most efficient running and passing the ball, 40-yard rushing, 207 yards passing, in place of Jane Daniels, due to injury. But the commanders made big play after big play. Debo Samuel opened the game with a 69-yard kick-up return

to set up his first score. Punt returner, Jalen Lane, return to punt, 90 yards for a touchdown. Jeremy Nichols broke a couple of tackles on a 60-yard touchdown run. Terry McLaurin, 59-yard catch. down to the one-yard line, set up another touchdown. And wire receiver Luke McCaffrey had a 42-yard reception cap scoring drive. He, it was big play after big play, after big play, and the Raiders seemed like, y'all, y'all want another big play?

Go ahead. You have it. You can have it. But they look good without Jaylon, obviously. I'm not saying Marcus Mariotta, there's no threat, but that's what you want. That's the kind of performance that you want to have when your backup comes in there, Ojo.

You don't want to struggle, especially a team like the Reddy. You want to go ahead and put them away, and they did that. They did what they were supposed to do. So they won that ball game. Seahawks beat the Titans, 44, 13. Seahawks ran up 38 points in the first half,

seemingly scored every time they touched the ball, including on special teams. Seattle did not punt the football until the fourth quarter. 44th, 13th. Oh, the Saints. Oh, Seahawks beat the Saints. Hey, the Saints bad. They are.

Are we counting that? Yeah, I guess we got to. I know it's an NFL team. I know it's an NFL game, but there's certain games to look at on your schedule, and you just go ahead and mark. We're going to mark this off. Yeah.

We're going to mark this off ahead of time. All right, Ocho, we're going to get out here on this one. and it's time for our final segment of the evening is time for Q and A. Oh, yeah. It's almost 2 o'clock. I get three hours of sleep before I go to the gym. I think I got big.

Barbara Patel. Hey, Tocho, how about them Bengals? Come on. Hey, don't do that. Don't do that. I've already talked about us, Luce, and I already said, we got belt that, belt the ass.

I didn't say everything. I'd have praised the and did. I didn't praise the Minnesota fans. I didn't praise Isaiah Rogers, who I need a jersey from. I don't need no extracurricular activity out of you. I don't need that.

A triple X cop Saturday said, who they, who they got their butts kick. Skow! It's been 588 days and Unc still ain't got the money, Ocho. Got to catch them hands. Hey.

Ocho, they said you got to catch them hands. Yeah, one thing about it, but these hands registered now. just depend on how you want it, how you want it, let me know. She'll be saying, we need 50, 900 people to donate a dollar since Ocho will never

pay you back, and this is toward the balance. Ocho, just pay me my money, man. Hey, I told you, the people on here, they talk about I ain't paid you back, and they have been here and watched me and witness me tell you, PayPal, Apple, Pay, Zelle,

cash app, but you don't want to download nothing. Uh, Josiah Trong says, I do, I, I, I told you pay Shelley and you won't do that. Oh, why did people say without weapons, Purdy can't win games and that his weapons behind him that support him, but with Holmes, we're seeing the same thing and he has a top defense. Wait, who has the top defense? Uh, Kansas City. Top defense. So if I were to switch places,

if I took Brock Purdy and I put them in Kansas City the past two years and I take Patrick Mahomes and I put him in San Francisco the past two years, who you think has a better record? So I'm going to give, so I'm going to give, I'm going to give, I'm going to give, I'm going to give, I'm going to give, I'm going to give him my home, Dibo, I'm going to give him my yuk, and you got hurt, I'm going to give him Jennings, I'm going to give him Christian McAfrey. I'm going to give him Trent Williams, that offensive line. Now I'm going to put Purdy in Kansas City. No Rushie Rice. Well, he get Rishi Rice, his rookie year, but then Rushie got hurt early. so and then you know i'm going to give him sky more i'm going to give him tony i'm going to give him

that running game that offensive line i think you see why yeah stand cloud and say uh showing love from center texas tyreek hill and the chief organization need to seriously put ego and arrogance to the side and reunite well i you know Miami's kind of looking at the best deal who's going to give us the best deal? Yeah. Who's going to give us the, you know, the higher of the draft picks or the more of the draft picks.

We'll have facts. Bingal Luz is all on Ocho. He hyped them up like a baddie at Nobu and now and we had to watch that. Yeah, you hyped them up, Ocho. You did that. We'll be back. That's all I can say.

We'll be back. Rick Juan Howard said, hey, Uncle Ocho. I have two things to say. We can't say foot or ball. This evening is Indiana Jones legend growing. Love the show in the Nightcap family. Who that nation? Yeah, Indiana Jones is definitely growing.

Yeah, you keep playing like that. Shady Luke, Uncle Ocho. Did y'all see Jalen getting after O.C. on the sidelines before the comeback? Hey, he's like, hey, give me a chance to throw the ball. That's it. Who have had facts that Ocho can say put or ball tonight. he can't.

Masterpiece said the Raiders O' line is bad. Pete Carroll should tell his son to step down. Oh, he's an old line coach? I didn't know that. Learn something new every day. I didn't know Pete Carroll's up

with the old line coach. They didn't know that either. Bag on head. Oh, pour Ocho roots for the Bengals and the Dolphins. Man, at least you could do is forgive 5900 he owes you. Nah, hell no.

I need all that. Aaron Jones said The Chief Ball started three times that were a second early no-call When the Eagles do it just once Now it's a huge problem Miss me with that No, they are

I'm surprised That they didn't get Because I did see 50 I did see 74 The right tackle leave a little early I did see that Jamarcus Russell I'm ready for Vegas put me in coach

You got you bro Trayvon Hey fellas do y'all believe the Chargers can make a deep playoff run with the play calling he's been doing. Yes, the charges are good. And they're going to get a, what's the guy? Did he Limeon back?

52. Oh, Khalil Mack. Calil Mack, he'll be back. Back on head, Monday night, by Ocho teams going to get the, you know what, and will. Ocho, did the Bengals have their backup defense in also? No, but they was tired

because they was on the field all game long. No time to rest. No time to rest. MSQ to defend Ocho's bingoes against Unx Bronco, as Dominique Toreto said, doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning. Same thing applies, L.

Still an L, no matter the score. Not true. Ed Al Smith said my Packers had the worst loss today. George loved and fourth quarter turnover, Lord, have mercy. True. Keith Oliver said, if the Bengals be the Eagles next week, should Baker be mentioned in the MVP discussion? Yes, he's in the MVP discussion.

Christopher E. Evans, Jr. said the patrons have to clean up the penalties and stop turning the ball over five times. Come on now, that's something normally you don't see from New England. No, that's something we didn't see from New England with Coach Belichick. Yeah. Stephen Bass 314, Uncle Cho, y'all are my favorite people. Give us another childhood story. Also, Casey played quarter of all game,

with John refused to run the ball. Much love, a bit of fans since you were at CBS. I appreciate that, Stephen. Yeah. Because at the end of the day, they felt that they could stop them with their front seven. I do like Scatibo. I like him.

He runs hard. He run hard. Scatibo remind me of Peyton Hillis for some reason. He does. He's not Peyton Hillis, but he just. I don't know. He just reminded.

Ash. Jamar, the singer. Unk's first word when he gets to heaven, where the hell is Ocho at? Mofo still owes me $5,900. True. Josiah Strong, I'm saying with injuries as well as Purdy, even with those injuries,

had a better overall offense. Keperno Norwood Jr. said, Ocho, did all that talking, the Bengals got the brakes beat off of them. All right, all right, all right. No more, no more Ocho, no more bangle talk, please. I'm already sad enough. Boom said, oh, I want to know your thoughts on the AFC West and the NFC North.

AFC West looks like it's going to be the Chargers. They've already beaten three teams. They've already beaten all three teams. We'll see what happens if they can, you know, it's early three games. But charges got a light where they're. stand and then they got the Giants next week. Andrew Powell, Purdy had a bottom 10 defense last year

with a clueless DC, Debo Watts, Iuk, her, a lot of disaster. Mahon bailed out over and over by the D. That's how you feel, huh? Man, y'all really think Purdy is the equivalent of Mahomes, okay. Thank you guys for joining us

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