Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Unc, Ocho & special guest Dribble2much joins the show to talk all things basketball!

Episode Date: June 11, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & special guest Dribble2much joins the show to talk about his NBA skills training career, Kyrie defends KAT & everyone’s favorite segment Spell-O-Cinco and much more!01:47 - James Cook03:00 - Kyrie: Leave KAT alone08:30 - Wemby went to see monks12:30 - Dribbles2much interview34:33 - Rough Draft: Top Excuses to Cancel Plans39:55 - Spello Cinco46:50 - Dunk on Unc57:30 - Q & Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Oh Joe, according to Ian Rappaport, James Cook is present at mandatory minicamp as he seeks a new deal. James Cook had his simple response to why. I like my money, that's why I'm here. Cook adds he plans to fully participate in training camp. Oh yeah, they gonna take care of him. They gonna take care of him.

And listen, at the running back position, you really can't play that game with them boy. No. I'm just being honest, but they do not play that even though I review you. Thus on the outside looking in, we view you as a tier one running back along with Saquon and McCaffrey and the boys, but you really can't play that. They already don't value the position as it is, as well as you did for the bills since you've been there, but they will replace your ass quick. And feeling they can put, they can find

someone else that can do the same stuff you can do. Nah, don't do that. Don't play that game. I'm glad, I'm glad it's at Minicamp. I'm glad it's at Manitou. Yeah man, three days at Minicamp over a hundred and five thousand in fines. Man, listen. And you know back when you and I played Ocho, if you got fined signing a new contract, the team could forgive that fine. Now they can't forgive a fine. Yeah, you can't forgive it. Yeah, you don't play with that money. He's gonna be alright.

They're gonna take care of him though. You're gonna have to wait for him, but they're gonna take care of him. Ocho, Kyrie says, leave Kat alone. Let's take a listen to what Kyrie had to say today. Before I forget, y'all gotta stop making fun of my brother Cat. I'm done with y'all. Stop making fun of my brother Cat. It's over for that.

It's a f***ing wrap. I'm letting y'all know if you repost that shit again or you meme him up, I'm attacking you. Not like that physically in GTA, but I'm attacking you. All right? I'm attacking you. Y'all gotta leave leave Catalon. Okay, cuz y'all don't know What it's like to grow up in Jersey and have all of these

Cultures that you're a part of trust me on that Jersey is literally a hundred and thirty miles long. It is very very small state But when I get back to my point, I'm gonna explain this to you, but I'm just saying leave him alone All right, leave our jersey like because he's Dominican, he's black, he grew up in, you know, a certain area, Jersey, just like me, and you got to survive out here, and you have many different demographics of people. So you got to survive out here, alright? Sometimes I don't, I don't agree all the time when he be, you know, changing up his tone sometimes. I don't always agree and all that shit. You know what I mean?

That should be funny. But on a serious note, he is a man. He's my brother and I protect him all the time. Yeah, that's what he be getting on it, Kai. Hey, I like it. It's funny. I like when he do it. I like when he do it.

Listen, I like when he be changing up when he gives... His voice is... Hey, what? Pow! hey, what'd he say? What'd he say? Wow. Hey, I like it. I like it. I like when he changes his tone up sometimes.

To me it's funny. I like it. Especially, uh, there was, there was, I don't know, was it TikTok or I saw it on Twitter where they asked New York, uh, they asked Knicks fans, give us your best. And they were spot on. Hey man, they were dog. I was in tears rolling. I was in tears rolling.

So listen, I understand Kyrie saying that's his boy, his boy and all, but. He came from Jersey. It's all fun. Make expectations and you know you close to home. It's right across the bridge. I mean, you know, he grew up in that area. You're like, yeah, I mean, Kat had a lot going on.

He was very, he was extremely close. Yeah. When you say he was a mama's boy, he was absolutely 1017 million percent a mama's boy. Yeah. They were close, close. And that that it took him a while to get over that. He spoke, you know, I had him on the pod

and he spoke about that. I like it, you know, get an opportunity to talk to him off camera and just see his mannerisms and things like that. I, like I said, I like it. Do I wish he would get down on the block more? Yes, yes. And I think, you know, he did a little bit more of that in the series against Indiana.

He probably just, you know, do that a little more, but. He's a guy he's very, very philanthropic, you know. You know, Joe and some of the people say that they believe they believe he needs to to get in better shape so he can play defense a little bit better than what he does, considering he's seven foot tall and had what one block shot, one block shot from game two to game five. Yeah.

That's unacceptable, Ocho. Yeah, it is. You seven foot tall. You right, you right. But I know one thing, Kyrie cannot, don't stop him from changing that tone up. Hey, that joke is too funny, man. Too funny.

Oh my God! Hey, that baby funny, boy. Oh, man. Wimby went to see monks this week. Ocho, check out this photo. That's Wimby as a Shaolin monk. Woo! Hey, you talk about discipline and structure?

You know, I'm, listen, you know what I, nah, man, listen. If Wimby's gonna do anything, if he ain't gonna do anything that is similar to what the monks practice, that is similar to what the monks practice. Psh. Man, he might come back and have 50 points a game, huh? Now, he need to go do a kareem.

You know, kareem went and trained with Bruce Lee. Oh, really? Jetsun Kun, yeah. You don't remember he was in the movie, The End of the Dragon? Oh, that's right, tall ass. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Yeah, you right, you right, you right, you right.

That's why ain't nobody mess with Cap. Like ain't nobody mess with James Johnson. You sure, James Johnson, oh, that play with the E? Yeah, he was hitting in and out of now. Yeah. If I mess with Cap, Cap know that thing, man. Okay, well he got it with the black belt? If I mess with Cap, Cap do that thing, man. Okay. Well, you got it with your black belt?

I think he has a black belt. He can wear a black belt. I'm talking about James Jones. I think Bruce Lee, a discipline with Jetson Kuhn. No, what was Kareem? Kareem don't have no belt? Just a brown belt to hold his pants up? He probably got none. Ocho, would you ever go on a spiritual awakening? How many days is it?

There's some factors that I need to know before I go on a spiritual awakening. How many days is it going to be? Three to five. Oh yeah. About three to five? Yeah. I can do that? Yeah. How many days is gonna be the five? Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah Who that would have to the mountains and play it stayed on there for like 40 days or something 40 days in the Bible who that would have been to them

With that mile olive they would have to move that George Somebody would have been a honey and locust man, please. Send me to that Shaolin temple where, um, where, uh, Hey, are they cooking chicken up there? Y'all need to know if they can get chicken breast, uh, uh, thighs. They got oxtails, rice, I mean, what are we eating up there with you? Hey, three to five days, I can live in any environment. I don't care how bad it is.

Anything over that. I can't. I ain't doing it. A spiritual journey. I'm ready for that. Man, Jordan talking about he go to church. Hold on. Man. What happened? Yeah, that was John the Baptist. John the Baptist or was Moses? Yeah, a unusual food such as honey,

such as locusts and wild honey. Hey, locusts is Diana. Yeah, I ain't asking that. Yeah. I'm trying to figure out how long did he go? How long did he go, George? A few days. He went up up there no damn 40 days. So he wore a garment of camel's hair and a leather belt.

Damn, they had camels way back then, huh? Hey, you a flyer. You put that shit on, huh? Hold on, hold on. Titus. Boy, he said camel hair and a leather belt. And I like that. I like the idea.

Let's, let's do that spiritual retreat and we can do the, we can do the spiritual retreat, right? Both us. both us talk about it on nightcap. Hold on they say he lived he lived in the wilderness till he was about 30. I sure hope he would have been there when he was 29. Hey I don't like that. So he went in there like a child, hold on. Anybody know, Chad, how long did John the Baptist stay in the wilderness? 30 years. Nah, come on, man, nah.

I'm just saying to say, hey. Say he disappeared in the wilderness for 30 years. Nah, I ain't finna hold you. I ain't even buying that one. I probably got three to five days. Yeah, three to five I could do that. In the wilderness, in the mountains, I don't care where I'm at. Rigid, rigid cold temperatures are the last thing.

No, I don't need, I need that deal. I ain't trying to do no, I ain't trying to do no extreme temperatures. I ain't trying to do no extreme heat, no extreme cold. You don't like the cold? No. Oh, I love, I love, I love extreme cold. I like 72 and sunny. Nah, nah, I need, I need to be, I need to cold. I need to have it cold.

All right, Ocho, we got a very special guest joining us. Joining us, NBA skills trainer to the NBA and college stars, Dribble too much. Dribble, what it do? What's up everybody? I mean, I appreciate you guys having me here. No, we appreciate you coming on. Do you go by Johnny or do you wanna go by Dribble?

Either way, whatever you want. Dribble is cool. OK, well, let's start with this. How did you get into training NBA stars, college stars? How did this profession come about? Well, man, chasing the dream and growing up in my environment with nobody going to college and my family and being a Haitian-American in my neighborhood, I just fell in love with the game, man.

And it kept me out of trouble and did a lot for my mom's heart, saving her, keeping me out of the streets and on that basketball court. So from there, my goal was to play Division I. I ended up playing at Liberty University with Seth Curry. Then I ended up chasing the dream to go to the league and playing in Mexico and getting hurt. And I feel like God pushed me to really be teaching more than playing. And I just committed two feet into that and I started a brand called Handle Light. Okay. So your goal, so was your goal eventually was to play in the NBA? Did you want to play in the NBA? Did you have aspirations of playing in the NBA?

Yes, I had aspirations to play in the NBA. It was my goal to get there and no matter what, you know, and playing in Mexico and the horrible floors, it just, it gave me stress fractures. And it messed up my journey. And I just didn't feel like, you know, it was time for that anymore. And I just felt like he was calling me, you know, to invest into these kids,

these young kids, yeah. You feel me? Hey, listen, when you were a kid, man, you from down here in the crib, you from Boyne, huh? Boyne V. Florida, baby! Hold on, I didn't know you was from the crib, why? I'm from Boy five six to one I said, I'll raise it. That's how you do. Oh you right down the street. We were the high school that I went to boy and high Okay

Yeah, so Lamar went to boy in two Lamar yeah Lamar Jackson Travis Hunter. I played with Travis So okay, I was the uh, I was the receiver on Boy in High with Travis Hunter's dad. OK, OK, OK. I don't think people know about what Travis Hunter's dad was doing out here in Georgia. I know about C.U. I know about C.U. Yeah.

Definitely. Hey, listen. Listen, your client list has an all-star battle. You got Chris Paul, DeMar DeRozan, you worked there, Kobe White and more. When a future Hall of Famer walks into your gym and decides to get work, how do you, how do you decipher what someone that is already established needs to work on as opposed to someone that comes in that's new? Man, that's an amazing question.

And for me, when it's like that type of skill level, I'm really confident in what I can do and what I'm teaching and how people can get better. But I take those opportunities to really ease into, like, building a relationship with them, because I'm really there to learn even more from them. Because, you know, even though I'm a trainer, these guys are seeing different defensive rotations.

They're really out there. So I collaborate with Chris Paul and I let them have the floor. And then I turned that into a drill and I add my skill to it. And it just becomes like a collaboration on the workout. Okay. So what's your opinion on the criticism

with personal trainers and a you ruining? American basketball while we see the European players. We haven't had an American-born MVP and I think seven years so you hear LeBron say it you hear I saw Richard Jefferson say say it I've heard Dwayne Wade say it. I heard a lot of guys say AAU and personal trainers are ruining it because and and we see the uptick in European players starting to dominate the league Well, I would say AAU is almost like it's like when we was Back in the days on that outside court until the lights coming off playing 10 30 40 games on concrete, right?

it's just a new age in off, playing 10, 30, 40 games on concrete, right? It's just a new age in basketball. But my opinion on it is there's always going to be a chance to play now. You always want to have a game to play. So to me, what they do over overseas in Europe is they really care about the development and teaching the game and playing the game the right way. And then everything just starts to develop even more. So my opinion about it is I care more about the development.

I think trainers are all the social media kind of, you know, gay training like a bad rep a little bit because some guys are just out there doing it for fun. They're not really like committed to really learning the game and then giving back to the community and helping them get better and develop. It's more, it might be a content play. Okay. I'll show you how to do these three moves. I get, you know, millions of likes. I do this trick and it's just like, it's a, it's a messy world right now with social media and all of it. And I come from

the old school, man. I put the work in the sweat equity. I just happen to have a million followers by my skill. So that being said, I think if you focus on developing your craft, having a good skill and hard work, the followers will come. And I think that's a little bit far removed right now. People say they got to be on a social media channel or have this type of collaboration. No, put up the work, put in the work. And there's a lot of resources now, no matter where you play, they will find you. So that's the positive thing about it.

There's always games to play, but the development needs to take a real hit in my opinion. That's a good thing that you just said that too. And obviously for all the parents that might be watching, how are they supposed to tell the difference from those that are trainers that can help with the child development and improving their game and those that are just taking money for content purposes? Yeah. Yeah, man.

It's like, it's really hard to decipher sometimes cause it is a business and coaches got to make money cause they're a business and coaches got to make money because they're invested and so they got to kind of pull their weight. But man, it is far from removed from community basketball and that coaching your community that, you know, that's still working there probably right now. You guys probably know a coach that helped you out when you was younger and still in that same community. And I think with the resources and the opportunity with basketball and the money involved

in all of these things, it just takes out that love just to help in somebody just because you want to see them make it, you kind of start seeing like a benefit out of it. Like if you help this person. And I come from an era where, you know, at Ezell Hester and Boynton Beach Community Center, that's changed my life.

Like I still got coaches now that I go back every year and do camps and clinics there. I think the coaching is just, it's just a different world, man. I'm still learning it, man. You guys are doing an incredible job with the media, man. Thank you.

Richardette. For real. Correct. ["Badass Bop"] When you look at handles, how do you rate handles? Do you look to somebody that could just pat the ball? Like Kyrie, Kyrie has tremendous handles, in and out, he's great with either hand. He might be the best below rim finisher in NBA history because of his skillset and the way he could spin the ball and the English he can put on with either hand.

You look at, there have been great ball, Rod Strickland could handle the ball. Isaiah Thomas could handle the ball. Tim Hardaway and Allen Iverson had the crossover. So how do you judge handles? Man, first of all, do you have handles? No. Because the way you describe it, man,

my ankle's going to the floor right now. Yeah, I'm the hooper. I'm the hooper. I'm the hooper of the crew. Okay, best, man. Handles, man, the game has changed because now, you know, if you can dribble the ball and space out the floor and get in that paint and kick out for three, like, everybody is trying to handle the ball. And I think the Warriors really changed the game when Dreymar started running that point. It just made people even be more aware of

handles along with the guards that were winning back to back years from like Stephen Curry and Kyrie Irvin. These guys are being successful with handles. So I think you work on handles, you work on everything, but the game is really about reaction. Even those guys that you see doing the highlights, they're really reacting to defenders. So with handles, I like to teach kids on how to control the ball, like starting from the feet down. You know, ball control, footwork, shoulder, ball manipulation, you learn all of that

to get to A to B really quick. And if somebody stopped that, then you got C and D. So I think it's just about how people are teaching the kids to be involved in the game and use their handles whatever position it is. And every position, you gotta handle the ball. To me, even if you're a big man in a dumping spot and you catching the ball,

and you gotta take one dribble to finish on the other side, that's still ball handling. If you gotta do a year old and pick it up off the ground, that's still ball handling. So I think it's really a part of the game that's really lifted up in the community of basketball. And a lot of people are seeing the advantage of having good hands. But what we see now with handles, we didn't see the guys, guys got handles now to get their shot off. You look at Steph Curry, he's in and out back,

hey James Hard really started it where he would go and then get that up. Guys didn't really have have guys had handles to like break down a defense. Not guys have handles to get a shot off. You look at a Kyrie, you look at a James Harden, you look at a Steph Curry, you look at these guys with the pull, Kevin Durant with the huge crossover to get to his spot. When did that transition happen? When do we go from, you know, guys back down and just turn over and shoot over one shoulder to the other. When do we get from, you know, guys back down and just turn over and shoot over one shoulder to the other. When do we get to the guys with the ta-ta-ta-ta

and get the shot? That's such a good question, man. That's a really good question. I just think the game started evolving and the defense started getting, you know, like with the game evolving, with like Kevin Durant putting pressure on another big fella, He's taking advantage.

Back to the basket against a big fella his size, he might get that contest. Right. But if he bring them out there and he's been working on his handle all summer and he feels comfortable, now you've forced somebody that's out of position to guard somebody like a guard. And I've worked with Kevin Durant and he moves like he's six foot. Yeah, he's smooth. Boom. He got little pockets. He could get it too well off the pull-up. And it's just much easier if you can handle the ball. You still got the bump fade. You still can create

space. But if you can move that ball like a guard without getting turnovers and being efficient with it, you cause problems and you win championships at that position with Kevin Durant and my king. Hey, she with the snatch. That's nice. They got that snatch. Now is, I mean, bro, that's next. Hey, Hey, do you see, I like street ball, right? Yeah.

And do you think, do you think someone that plays street ball, that loves the game of street ball can transition into playing organized basketball, even though some of the habits are frowned upon in organized basketball? Do you see a mixture of both being able to, to, to coincide together? Or you don't think so? Absolutely. I think street ball is really unteachable. You gotta almost be in that vibe. There's some things now that I might do with the basketball and try to teach NBA guys on how to do it. And if they ain't grow up in that era

of watching N1 mix tapes, get to my Lou and all that kind of stuff, what I grew up with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The rhythm is a little off. Like back in the day, I'm popping in a mix tape and I'm watching it over and over. This is like street ball. They carrying the ball over. They, you know, rolling on the ground. It just makes you more comfortable with the ball and it also brings out your personality.

And nowadays in basketball, especially with everybody trying to dribble the ball, they gonna box. They could box you. They could box you when you only doing this, right? And then you got to work on your hand on the low. And then when you pop out, everybody's stealing. But I think it just opens up your personality in street ball. It's all, I remember the rest of the piece to Escalate, even him, like it's big stuff. Big boys, the handle of the ball, being able to create space, move like a guard. Um, some of the major street bar thing, it carry over a lot. And people who ask that player, like it's that, you know, even, even Stephen Curry does a couple of street ball moves.

A lot of them guys haven't adopted that. Yeah, they adopt like, but they can't, they know how to use it efficiently. You know, they might do a street ball move and see it online, especially now with all these one-on-ones and all this stuff. I got NBA guys, they're watching one-on-one battles. Like we used to watch smack DVD battles. They like watching one-on-one and they're taking the things from one- watch Smack DVD battles. They like watch it. They're watching one-on-one, and they're taking the things from one-on-one battles, and they're applying it to the NBA.

So they're definitely like in the community, and the new An-1 now might be these like amazing players like that are playing one-on-one, like next chapter and all these other guys doing it that might be the new street ball you know I mean yeah I think the thing is go ahead Ocho go ahead I just had one more question listen you you're a basketball savant so if you would have a favorite player not all time just who's your favorite player right now in the game today you just

love everything about their game from A to Z. Toby White. I just, I've been on the process, man. I've got him when he first came into the league and he had a little shoulder injury. He went from averaging nine points to jumping up to 19 to jumping up to 20. And he never missed a summer. And I've watched the process. I got clips that I can show you from training

and working on reaction, working on his handle to translating and doing against LeBron, one of his own idols, right? So it's like, that's the special part for training for me is being able to see these guys get in the lab, work on something, I help them create. And then now they go in the game and they put it out there for the world to see. And I'm able to be that middle person to show the youth be like, Hey,

Colby White loses the ball just like you. He goes hard and gets tired just like you, but all the work we put in that lab. That's why he's my favorite player because I know how much hard work he's put to be for his end. So Colby White's one of my favorite players. Chris Call is one of my favorite player because I know how much hard work he's put to be for his ass. And so Kobe White's one of my favorite players. Chris calls one of my favorite players. Of course, my clients, right? I get it. I feel like the clients that I have. Chris Paul, the Marta Rosen, Kobe White, these consistent clients that I have, they are a true professional. And I think there's a difference between being a pro athlete

and being a professional athlete, coming every day and doing all of the things that you need to do to be great at this game. So. No, professionally is your occupation. A pro is how you go about the occupation. Yes, sir. I like that.

I look at, and we talk about this a lot, and you said something very interesting. I think it's hard to not get incrementally better if you put the work in. I'm not saying that you're going to go from a guy that averages 10 points to all of a sudden averaging 33 points. I'm not going to say that you're going to be a guy that comes in and be, you know, a sixth or seventh player to all of a sudden be a Hall of Famer, but it's just hard for me to see a guy put time in in the gym and he's not getting incrementally better. Yeah. Cause I see Shay, I see a guy like, uh, uh, Austin Reed's, I see some of these guys that you can tell that they put the work in, but I can also see guys, they haven't gotten any better since their rookie year.

Why you think that, Shannon? Because the thing is, what you say, see, I see better than I hear. I heard what you told me, but I see your game has not evolved. And as a matter of fact, you're worse now, year three, year four, than you were your one year two. Because you're not putting the time in in the gym.

I'm not saying that you're gonna be all of a sudden be LeBron or Steph or one of these great players. But it's just hard for you to put any amount of time into anything and not get better at it. That is, and I think like the adversity that comes with it and the timing, like those two things are very important because while you're getting better, there's going to be adversity. You're going to, sometimes you'll feel like,

oh man, like for instance, me, I was at Liberty University and had the best handles in the team. You know, I felt like I was the best player in the team. Um, and I didn't get in much playing time. I rolled the bench. I had Steph Curry as a freshman in front of leading the country and I didn't get in much playing time. I rolled the bench, I had Steph Curry as a freshman in front of leading the country in scoring. And the coach, my coach wanted me to get paint touches and find people.

But when I got recruited, I got recruited as a sport. So it was hard for me to like translate that. And I think people get better. It's all about that circle of people that surround me like you might be in the situation where okay Just want you to run to the corner shoot the three and play defense, but you got this whole bag that you can go to That's like a fine balance between doing what the coach needs you to do and then get it in your bag between doing what the coach needs you to do and then getting in your bag. So I think like, you know, with development, you got to really like, for that confidence to get better,

it got to be a lot of factors that's hitting. It got to be your upbringing. It got to be, you know, the adversity on how you handle it, how you take direction. It's more than just putting that ball in that basket and, you know, working. We know a bunch of dudes from our neighborhood. They could, they're good.

But it's a lot of things to get better in basketball. It's not just basketball, you know, it's like, you got to learn how to play this game and you got to learn how to be a professional at it. Dribble. All they wanted was a janitor or cashier and you was trying to be VP or CEO. All they wanted was to get it. That's all they were looking for. That's all they were looking for. That's all they need.

They ain't saying you're gonna be that next year. They just said they need you to be that for right now. Can't you do it? How many stories have we heard, somebody starting out in the mail room, somebody starting out at the bottom floor, and all of a sudden they're CEO of the company. Because a lot of times we can't see past our own situation.

Yeah, we can't see the box that we're in as far as we can see. Yeah. Sometimes you have to think outside of the box and see yourself beyond where you actually are. And being humble and having a great routine that keeps you mentally strong and keep you chasing your goal even if it's not right now, you know? Yep. Well, Dribble, thanks for coming on. Tell us, Chad, where they can find you at on social media. Man, you can find me at Dribble too much

on social media or HandleLife or you can find some training tools if you want to on HandleLife.com to get your handles better My appreciate it all the best continue success, man Thanks for giving us a couple of minutes a moments of your time tonight. We greatly appreciate it continue success, bro, man Thank you and uh continue having that great success on the show I can tell why it's a great show some of the questions that i've got asked on this show I've never been asked in my life. So you guys are doing a critical job, an incredible job and keep it up. Thank you, man.

I appreciate it, man. Yes, sir. All right. How's it going? It's us. Uh, all right. Oh, Joe, no, that's time for rough draft. Um, today's okay, we got the animation.

We'll get the animation, come on. ["Rough Draft"] ["Rough Draft"] ["Rough Draft"] ["Rough Draft"] ["Rough Draft"] All right, Ocho, today's questions, top excuses to get out of plans.

Oh, that's a good one, that boy. Ah, you know, and I get to go first. No, I won the last one. It's not who go one, you go who go we rotate. Oh, hey, hold on, hold on. If we play basketball and I make the shot, it's make or take it. What you talking about? First of all, Ashby giving you first for like the last five wins.

You know what, you can what, you know what? You can go first, cause you're gonna lose anyway. Go ahead. Ocho, man, you know, man, I got a headache, Ocho. Yeah. I can't do it tonight. You can't go? No, can't go.

Okay. You know what? Hey, it all depends what those plans are. Yeah, that too, that too. Hey, give me a minute. I'm gonna call you right back. Okay. I'm gonna call you right back.

I'm gonna let you know. I'm gonna call you right back. Man, don't never call back. Man, Ocho, something came up. Something came up? Yeah. Ah, that ain't better than, man, I ain't got nothing to will. Ah, well, you know what, Ocho, I'm just tired, man. Tired. Tired?

Tired. I don't know nobody ever said they tired. You lied. You lied. Man, I ain't heard I'm tired. You heard it before. Hey, you know what? I ain't gonna be able to make it with y'all boys tonight.

Boy, I gotta chill with my old lady, bro. Yeah, that's a good one. That's the key to keep the peace, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jesus. I gotta keep my peace. Hey, something came up, I'm tired. Yeah, I'm fine. Can I use, I'm tired.

Yeah, I'm fine. Can I use, I'm sick. Okay, damn, I mean, hey, they getting really sick. You know what, how about this? Damn, I don't really do the whole lot of excuses on you. I just like, nah, I ain't gonna be able to make it. You're not lost already, nah, I told you, I told you you can go first, you were really I don't really do the whole lot of excuses. Oh Joe. I don't know I ain't gonna be able to make it. You know lost already now. I didn't told you I told you you go first You were gonna lose anyway. No, you know what oh Joe my dog My dog sick though. Yeah, man, you know Titus

Man been pooping all over the place Okay Shit boy. What's up? Why would y'all boys finna do tonight, right? We all got a well boobit trap. Well club live Shit. Boy, what's up? Boy, what's y'all boys finna do tonight, right? Well, y'all go to where? Booba trap? Where the club live? Boy, shit.

Boy, y'all boys trippin'. Boy, it's the beginning of the month. Boy, rent due. Boy, I can't. Boy, y'all trippin'. Hey, I'm like Deebo, y'all ain't never got no money. Headache, something came up, I'm tired, my dog's sick. What else could I use?

Like I said, man, I don't... Oh, oh, Joe. Car man. Shit, man, this car man, this car man. I don't know what's wrong with this car. Yeah. I ain't got but one car. All of them on the break. Yeah.

Hey. What? Car trouble. Hey, I ain't got, listen. What y'all trying to get into, boy? Hold on, you know you got to hit him with that. Yeah. Shit.

Yeah, you're smart. Chill, boy. I say I'm tired. I knew you were tired. I didn't say I was tired, boy. I didn't get to make excuse yet. Boy, I did, boy. You, I, I knew you was tired. I ain't, I ain't even say I was tired, boy. I ain't even get to make excuse yet. Boy, you know a nigga tank on E, boy. You got $20 for your boy?

Yeah, man. You going back to talking like when we was in high school. Yeah. Hey boy, my tank on E, boy, I ain't really got it right now, boy. I want this one, Ochoa. I think I got this one. No, you know, no, no.

No, you didn't get this one. Yeah, I got this one. No, you didn't get this one. Yeah, I got this one. Ah, uh-uh. Mm, hey. I think I got this one, Ocho. I told you, I told you you was gonna lose before we even started. Uh-uh.

Yeah, man, you know, car bad, hey. The car, man, that car trouble, man, get you every time. Hey, not having no gas. Not having no gas. But you know, Ocho, but see the thing is, you got them. Hey, not having no gas, not having no gas. But you know what your proceeding thing is, you got them homeboys, hey man, you got $2 on you? Cause you know back then.

Not now, but when I was covered up, you get about four y'all, y'all get $2 each. Ride all night. Hey, but that was funny. Ain't going nowhere, just riding around. That's it. That's it. He he he he.

Yeah, that was a good one. All right, champ, what y'all think? Oh, I told you what it was. You know I won that one. I won that one before it even started. I could just, I could, I could. All right, well, we got, guess what? We going to your favorite.

Now it's time for Spello Cinco. Are we doing Spello? Where your hat at? Oh, you might have to, oh, you might have to, do I need to call to get your hat back too? Yeah, she threw it away, man. She threw it away.

It's all good, it's all good. We'll get you another one. Yeah, it's all good. I told him, I my dog the other day. That's good. I'm glad y'all cool still. Yeah, we cool. We cool.

That's my dog. You know, you want to see people living and being happy and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, that's my dog. All right, Ocho. The first word is differentiate. Huh? Differentiate. Differentiate. That's my dog. All right, Ocho, the first word is differentiate. Huh?

Differentiate. Differentiate. B-I-F-F-E-R-E-N-T-I-A-T-E. That's it? Yeah, oh listen, I know how to spell, now. I know how to spell, don't do me like that, huh? Don't, hey, don't do me like that, now. I know, it's what I do, now.

Okay, and it, somebody put put a stop cheat note, Joe. Wait a minute. As soon as you said the word, I started spelling. What are you talking about? I know. That's why they say stop cheat note, Joe. The next word is anesthesia. Anesthesia. This is tricky. It ain't that tricky. No, it is. Cause there's a, there's a, there's a, there's an H in there somewhere.

Anesthesia. Hey, I know I'm listening. I I'm going to mess this one up and I know I'm going to be pissed because I know it's an H in there somewhere. Anesthesia. A-N. Oh, golly. A-N, oh, darling. A-N-T-H,

anesthesia, anesthesia. An-uh, anesthesia. An-uh, anesthesia. An-uh, all right, A-N-E-T-H-E-S-I-A, man. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia.

Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia.

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Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Anesthesia. Shit. Okay. I got the next one though. Don't worry about it. I got the next one. The River Horse of Africa, hippopotamus. Hippo, okay. H-I-P-P-O.

Hippo. Hippo. P- Hippo. Hippo. Hippo. Hippo. Okay. H-I-P-P-O. P-A-T-T. Why Ash laughin' at me? Ash make me laugh. The A. That man done added about three T's to Hippo Part of Us. No, I didn't. I just said, I ain't even get to the T part yet.

I said hippo. So I got hippo out of the way. You done said T-T. Huh? You done said T-T. Hippo-pata. Hippo, H-I-P-P-O, pa, pa, P-A-T-A-M-U-S. H-I-P-P-O-P-O-T-A-M-U-S, hippopotamus.

Is that only one T? Yes. Oh my goodness. All right, I got this one, I promise you, I got this one. Hankerchief. Hankerchief. H-A-N-K-E-R-C-A-T-F. Hankerchief Hankerchief H-A-N-K-E-R-C-A-C-F

H-A-N-D-K-E-R-C-H-I-E-F Hankerchief Where the f**king D come from? When the D come- Uncle you gotta pronounce it the right way. You said you said handkerchief. That's what it's pronounced. No, no. It's not handkerchief, it's handkerchief. Well you need to spin. No, that's not the, that's not the, the D is silent. Handkerchief. What? No. The D is silent. You can't do that. You can't do that. Yes, I can. I did. I spelled it how you said it. No, the D is silent. No, that's not going to work. That's not going to work.

If you want... Then it work. You need to say hand kerchief if you want me to. It's not hand kerchief. It's handkerchief. The D is silent. They butchered the English language. That ain't got nothing to do with me. That was way before my time. Ask Gutenberg. Yeah.

Lee. Okay. How about this one? Hi Jean. Hi Jean. Oh, hi Jean. That's easy. H Y G I N E.

Wait, H Y G I E N E. H Y G I E N E. Yeah. I need, listen, now that's one thing I don't play with. That's how I know how to spare that one right away I don't play to me. Oh Joe you were two out of five. Hey I'm sorry Chad. I apologize. I apologize. I'm sorry And now it's time for Dunk on Unk.

Okay. Okay. Let's go. You know, I've been struggling to read a little bit. Hey, hey, Unk, before we start, can I tell you something? What? Nobody really know. You know, I can't even see out of my right eye.

You know that, right? Really? And that's all my mom and my grandma rest in peace. I know I play around on here a lot, but it's one of the few things I really don't share with nobody. And people say, well, why you always wear shades all the time? Or why you always, I can't see out my right eye. And most of the time, even if I'm focused

and let's say I'm looking at you, if I stare at an object long enough, my eye veers off to the right. Oh, so you got an eye that focus in a slide eye. Bingo, and hold on, it's been like this since high school. Yeah, like what you call it, so Arne and Jason, you got an eye that scan the room. So you see people that coming in the room, you focus on looking at Jordan.

And you see them coming the door, you see them bringing the food out the back. Okay. But you would never notice it because nobody ever notices it. But just sometimes when I'm on camera, if I sit here and lock in long enough, it'll look like I'm looking at you. But all of a sudden this one, if you're off to the right, because it has no focus focus It's really not looking at anything. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yes. It's weird. It's weird. But anyway, anyway back to the matter of fact You know what? I really I played my whole career with one eye and something you can notice if you ever go back and watch film Always notice how the ball I don't catch the ball until it gets right up on me

All my balls are put right up here instead of reaching my hands out because I can't see until the ball gets close enough. It's weird, I just had to throw that out there. Fun fact. I appreciate that. Appreciate you sharing that. Yeah, anyway, okay, here we go. Done going on.

My ass. No, I'm dead ass. I didn't say that, I said yeah, I'm good. And see, I put it on my mama and grandma so you know I ain't playing. Yeah, I know you. I know you telling the truth. Okay.

Okay here we go. Don't go on baby. Here we go. Here we go. Who holds a record for the most points scored in a single NCAA men's basketball tournament game? Oh my God. Yes.

Who holds a record for the most points? Austin Carr? God damn it! No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no in 1970, there's no way you're supposed to know this. How am I not supposed to know that? How old were you in 1970? I was two. Ocho, Ocho, I'm telling you that's what I do, Ocho. Let me put these on Who's Your Daddy, George Hudson Shorts. Okay, I'm ready. I'm ready.

I'm ready. I'm ready. Let's go. Let's go. Okay. Okay. I got this one. I got this one.

All right, Chad, stay with me. Which player holds the NBA record for the most turnovers in a single playoff game? Ain't nowhere here you getting this. James Harden? Nigga. Hold on, hold on. What? How many? That wasn't the question. All right, what about you? He did, he turned it over against the Golden State Warriors. So, ooh, is it the, I want to say 15 or 16. Yeah, it's 15 or 16. Yeah, well, you got it wrong. You got the answer wrong because you can't decide. You can't decipher on what year.

You asked me who holds the record for the most turnovers in a playoff game. I gave you James Harden. Then you tried to stump me. Oh, Joe, I don't do that to you. I'm not trying to stump you, but we talked about turnovers. So you said it with James Harden. I said it with James Harden, so that was the end of it. I'm two for two. Go ahead. Come on. You're cheating, man. Who holds an NFL record for the longest punt

in NFL history? The longest punt? In NFL history, yes. Ooh, I can't remember. Oh my God. Actually, it's 98 yards, it's a Buffalo Bill. I can't remember the guy. Donnelly?

Who? I think his name. Donnelly? Who? I think his name is Donnelly. Wrong. The answer that we were looking for was Steve O'Neal. 98 yards in 19, 98 yards in 1969. Yeah, I knew it was 98 yards. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Yeah. We got you now. You're not going to get another one right from this point on. I guarantee you that. And I could, you could bet your bottom dollar. Who was the first player in the NBA history to record a triple double in their rookie season? A triple double in the rookie season.

Who holds, excuse me, who was the first NBA player in NBA history to record a triple double in their rookie season. Woo! The league started in 1947. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Chad, we got him. Chad, we got him on the ropes. We got him on the ropes. We got him on the ropes. We got him on the ropes.

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We got him on the ropes. We got him on the ropes. We got him on the ropes. We got him on the ropes. We got him on the ropes. We got him on the ropes. We got him on the ropes. We got him on the ropes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. he trying to dodge the punches, but he getting hit by Joe Frazier. He's getting hit by Joe Frazier.

Wow, my goodness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me know if you want to fold. You want to fold? Let me know. We got him. I don't know. Wilt, I don't know.

Wilt who? Who was it? May not be no Bob Cousy. No, his name is West Unsealed 1968. First player in NBA history recorded triple double in their rookie season. Oh, you know what? Unsealed. Yeah.

Yeah. I told you not getting them all right. Here you go. You ready? Here we go. Who holds record for the most career fumble recoveries in NFL history and how many did it recover? Oh man, Lord have mercy fumble recoveries. Yeah, don't don't call him the Lord. He's not he's not he can't help you Yeah

London Fletcher, 22. Uh, that was a good one. But the answer you were looking for was Warren Moon. The answer you were looking for was Warren. Oh man, so quick. Hey, listen, the Warren Moon and obviously, you know, strip sack and being able to recover the phone. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, he farmed the ball. This is gonna snap to it. Mm hmm. Yeah. All right, we got it. Hey, here we go. Here we go. Which NBA player recorded the most points in a playoff debut game?

Allen Iverson. That is absolutely wrong. The answer you were looking for was Lucha, Luca, Doncic when they went back to Dallas in the Gatum boys 42. Hold on. You said in a debut playoff game? Debut points in the play. Yeah.

Wait. No AI 48 2001. gave you points in the playoff? Yeah, wait. No, AI, 48, 2001. You sure about that? Yeah. Now hold on, let me check, hold on, let me check. Let me check, 48. That was the step-over game. He gave the Lakers 48, that game?

I don't know, Ash. Ash might have to check. Hold on. You said who scored the most points in a playoff debut game, not a finals game? Debut, yes, his debut. It's a debut, that's it. So again- I was thinking finals.

Okay, okay, you're right. I didn't, the word finals didn't come out. Came out my mouth. I was thinking finals. you only got two right well and you only got two right so I was two for five you was two for five so so Luca so Luca Luca played against the Clippers didn't he no I said What? That was. Are you saying who scored the most points in a return?

I guess I guess a former teen. Yes sir. That's not what you thought. Well, if I say debut, debut would mean you'd be the first time you've done something. Right. What? you debut with me you know I gave you mean the first time you've done something right what debut but it was against the Clippers it wasn't against Dallas he played with Dallas no he said in a debut game he said against Lukaku to the Dallas Mavericks but I'm saying but he did against the Clippers, right? No, he did not.

He scored 42 against. He scored 42 against the Clippers. He did it as a Dallas Maverick. That's absolutely wrong. Actually, Ocho, that was the- No. That was the bubble. You see how Ocho, he's trying to stump me, he's stumping himself. You'll see that chat.

Y'all see that chat? That's the time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. I mean, you got it right anyway. We tied. Finally. I know. I beat the bricks off you last time. Video short says, what's up, Nightcap fam? What team last name would you change college or pros me?

I'll say game cocks in Twitter in 2025. It's wild He's saying who name will be changed. Yeah, he want to change the South Carolina game cocks Yeah, so he wanted to change the last night he don't want it to be called a game cocks anymore But a game cocker is dangerous. Does he know the history of getting thoughts in real life? Yeah, that's a fighting chicken. Man, shoot, what a thing. Gangster. Don't change that name. That's dope. I like that. Yeah, I mean when I was growing up Cock fighting what it's called. Yeah, really really really really really really really really really popular. Yeah

really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really popular. Yeah. You know, they didn't burn, but they go for a pretty penny now. Oh, yeah, for sure. Depending on where you at. You know, if they had them, they don't have it. You know, I'm just saying, depending on where you live at. Oh, it used to be a big thing. It's still it's a big thing in Miami.

They still have it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. OK, OK, OK. Yeah. Yeah. It's a it's a big thing. But they have, you know, they have spurs, they have knives, they have boxing gloves, they have all kinds of things you put on this bird. Yeah. Cameron Norwood Jr. said, Oh, I had a birthday. I listened to the Goal Lil Wayne and the BET Awards was a 10 for 10. It was, I saw a little, I saw a little bit of Uh, man, for me, Wayne still got, I mean, the way he put stuff together, Ocho, yeah, wordplay. Yeah.

Yeah, man. He, he, he's special with it. Yeah. He's special. I like, I like, I like Wayne. I think, uh, people have gotten so used to, uh, this era in the sound of music in this era. Yeah.

Yeah. They don't really appreciate. They got the wordplay like Wayne. Yeah. Just like the old guard when you heard when you heard KRS-1 and you heard Big Daddy Kane. Yeah. And you heard Rock Him. These guys can't see them with wordplay, but because you don't remember,

you didn't listen to them, you think these guys, and there's some good rappers. I don't want to try to, I don't want to diminish anybody. But when it comes to wordplay, when you start talking about KRS-One and Big Daddy Kane and Rock Him, stop it. Wayne is from that. Yeah. I think just in general, obviously too,

but this era of the sound of music is different. I hate the word mumble rap, but that's what's hot right now. And then Wayne coming back with what we're used to hearing from back in the days and people maybe not liking the beats. And people not liking the beats, but not listening to the words that have been displayed and that he's saying.

But again, I'm- But you could understand everything they were saying. This rapper, I mean, KRS-1, you could understand everything he's saying. You could I mean KRS what you could understand everything he said Yeah, you could understand you could understand big daddy came what he was saying You could understand what what rock him was saying you could understand even buster even though he in twist they going fast But you gotta stand and twist understand. What's the two? Yeah, somebody's guys Actually, it was fair fire freddy was the first one that had that fast rap

I don't know if you remember fast for your ntv rap fail five freddy But yeah, I like way and you know, some people don't like it about me. He fell off. He fell nowhere to me Scooty puff in the unc and oh Joe Kylie and humbly asked if you will say prayer for our Leo. A large tumor was found and sadly we don't have much time. Leo enjoys his nightcap. He's sending his best. School day bro, you ain't gonna tell me, I know I've been there. I've been there.

I had a bullmastiff named Titan. He started walking with a limp. Took him to the vet. The vet says, Mr. Sharpe, he says, I'm looking at his leg and we took some fluid off it. Said, Mr. Sharpe, I think he got lymphoma. He says, I'm telling you what I did, I already called the University of Georgia

and if you can get him there, they'll take it. I said, say no more. Drove straight to Athens took him and it just so happens it was on the weekend. As a matter of fact it was the fourth that Monday so they weren't gonna be able to see him. Man Ocho got him took him there that Monday we got him there that Sunday it was a Sunday. He stayed Monday, we went back up there Tuesday, talked to him. My girlfriend went back up there that Wednesday. They said, Mr. Sharp, we can do radiation,

we can do radiation, stuff like that. But they was gonna have to put him to sleep. So every time you do radiation, you're gonna have to put him to sleep. And then they say for a year? So I was gonna end up paying like $25 just to get another year. I said, nah, I said, nah, I said, we're going to come get it. We came and got him that Saturday.

Yeah. Called a lady that Monday, put him down, man. They like family. They like kids, man. And it doesn't get any easier. But the joy that they give you, Ocho, I mean, I ain't gonna lie. I can't see myself being without a dog. Yeah. See, I don't understand. I can't deal with that pain. I've been through that pain once and going through that pain

when I was old enough to understand. I don't feel this again. That was enough of me not to get another dog. Hell, you remember when we started the show, and you were telling me about the dogs and listen, I'm tearing up and you tell me about your dog, they ain't even mine.

And I'm crying just hearing what you're talking about. So that lets you know how I feel and how unstable I am and how much I can get for losing a pet. I just, I can't do it no more. I can't have anything tied to me for that long, that long period of time, and then I lose you.

Yeah. Scooty Puff, bro, give him as much love as you possibly can. Let him have his favorite treats, and, and, you know, let him go peacefully because at that point in time, it's just, it's not for him, it's for you. He's suffering, so give him his favorite treat. If he like ice cream, let him have whatever he wants.

Steak, chicken, and man, that's tough. That completes this episode of Nightcap. We're gonna thank our special guest, Dribble, for joining us, sharing some insight in how he goes about and teaches his NBA and college players their handles and getting to their spot and getting their shot off. Y'all know me, I am your favorite uncle,

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