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holding its past six opponents to an average of 57 points per game. The Blue Devils opened the week by handing Notre Dame its worst loss since 1898, 100 to 56. Then Duke shut down Virginia on another route crushing the Cavaliers to 77 to 51. And on Saturday, to clinch the top seat in the ACC tournament. Duke 27 and 2, their first with 55 votes. Arizona is second with four votes. 27 and 2. Michigan is third, 27 and 2. Yukon is 27 and 3, number 4.

Florida is 23 and 6. They're the 5 seed. Then you got Iowa State, Houston, Michigan State, Nebraska, and Texas Tech. Joe, is this the year Duke's going to get it done? They're going to go all the way through. They're going to win six games and win the national— and cut down the net. Duke look good on the road, Joe.

I can't say this is their year. You know, that tournament, that tournament, that tournament style is similar to the NFL playoffs. You know, I just got to be better than you. That day, one day, yeah. This is one game. So it's hard. It's hard.

I can't sit here and say that they're going to win it. Now, they have been playing great basketball, but it's other teams that's been playing great as well. So you just have to kind of wait until the tournament start, man, because, you know, you get in that neutral environment to where there's really no home court advantage. Anything, anything can go. Anything can go.

Anything can go. And guys, you talk about Duke is predominantly freshmen. The 18-year-olds. These teams to have these veteran clubs that's been together, then they got juniors and seniors. Hey, sometimes, too, Uncle, you know what I think about? I think about the Packers and how young their team is. And I think about sometimes when they get to the playoffs

and when they have success, the fact that the players are so young and they don't understand the pressures that come with being, in the postseason, I think they're just out there not playing for fun, but just playing freely. You understand what I mean? So when I think about Duke going into March Madness, when I think about Duke going into March Madness, there is no pressure for them. Hell, you know, we're not saying their kids.

We're just out there playing ball. We just freely out there playing ball. So the pressures that normally come with being in March Madness, I think we're going, I think they're going to be all right. Again, it is. I just need to be better than you on this one specific day. but I don't think that's that's why we love March Madness

is the unpredictability of it. Yep. Because we've seen the Cinderella. We've seen the upsets. We've seen a team ain't got no business beating this team. But guess what?

I just need to be better to you for 40 minutes. That's it. That's it. And the longer the game goes and you haven't gotten me up out of there, you hadn't load me out, the title you're going to get

because at the end of the day, they realize they're Duke. Yeah. There's something, it's like, I don't care. You're Alabama. You're Ohio State. You're one of those. And so you know what comes along with that.

You know all the players that came before you. You know about Grand Hill. You know about Kristen Layner. You know every coach kid in the legacy that he started with Johnny Dawkins and Tommy Amaker, Jay Billers. I remember, you know. You also know what the expectations are. Absolutely.

You're the number one C. You got players that go every year. Elton Brand, the first number on the overall draft pick. Zion, number one overall draft pick. Kai Reid, number one overall draft pick. Look at the legends, the who's who, the Kristen Latelyner, the Bobby Hurley's, the Grant Hill, the Elton Brands. You know the legacy in which Duke was built on.

Yeah, yeah. You got that bulls out on their back. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. University of Arizona, the Wildcats, They've been playing great ball too. Absolutely.

I'm talking about putting BTA to people out there. Like, they get into it, man. Hey, it's going to be a good March Madness. So we're going to see if they can, and look, and we're going to cover March Madness in the, but dude, man, damn. Cameron Boozer, man, he's been better than average. Hey, what's, hey, what's up with his brother, huh?

Is his brother is good or is it? No. They're different sizes. They're different sizes. But he's more like his dad, but he can shoot it better than his dad. Yeah. But he got the body like his dad. He got a grown-ass man body.

Already while he didn't call it. Yes, yes, yes. So. Go ahead, Joe. No, I'm going to say. So if Cameron Booze is 6, 9, 610, his twin brother who was on the Duke Blue Dev as well, Ocho, he probably ain't but about 6'3, maybe 6'4. So he probably played a one of the two, huh?

Yeah, he do. He played the guard position. Yeah. Yeah, Cooper flag. I mean, look at, think about how many number one overall draft picks that they've had for Joe. They do. They put them out.

Zion was number one. Kai Rhee was number one. Elton Brand was number one. And then you got Latner and the Grand Hills and all the Allah Abdubis and the Cherokee parks and all those guys. Hey, look. And Lange's all those guys that came after that it might not be number one. But Duke had, man, like, man, look, I ain't know.

Duke fan. I'm a Tar Hill fan. So if you're a Tar Hill fan, you hate everything. All Duke, yeah. Hey, listen, and all the Dukies, they all got good jobs, Ocho, when they're done for you. They, they, and they TV analysts, they coaches, they GMs, they got all the jobs. Yeah. So you're saying, like, basically playing for Duke is like playing for the Cowboys after you retire. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. Basically. Yeah. Look at the analysts. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Yeah. Dan Meredith. Right. Romo.

Okay. I get it. I get it now. I get it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's basically what we say. You get you taken care of if you, that's a hell of a fraternity to come from.

They take care of you. Because it's so vast, it's kind of like Stanford. You already know, you go away to Stanford? Yeah, let's see what I want. What firm, what tech company I want to work at? know the name where I want to work at. I think I work for you. Right.

That's just the way it is. Yeah. Yeah. But, Ocho, your boy, Ocho, and we didn't have no fallback. If I'll go either play the NFL or I was going to do something. I probably would have got to go to law school. Brother would have put me through law school. You, alone, I heard you say you major in criminal justice.

You know, I'm major in criminal justice too. Really? Yeah. I majored in eligibility, but I happened to get a degree. But I got a degree while I was staying eligible, Joe. Hey, let me tell you y'all something. Because we are a Prop 48 over there now. Yeah.

So when I did get eligible, right? When I did get eligible with my freshman year, they packed me down with like 21, 22 hours. Okay, oh, Joe. So, like. Y'all was in the quarter system, Joe? Huh? Were y'all in the quarter system or semester? A semester.

What do you mean? Because, see, we was on a quarter. We had three quarters. Excuse me. That's a better state. Man, listen. They packed me down with 21, 22 hours. I got class from 7 in the morning to 3 o'clock in the evening and no break.

We got practice at 3.30.4 o'clock. Damn, Joe. So look, I see some of my teammates on the yard. I'm like, man, how y'all look so fresh? Like, what y'all got to do? I said, man, they got me down with 22 hours. They say, man, you know you only need 12 hours to be eligible. I say, what?

Well, y'all should have seen how I went down there and dropped all them classes. Hey, look, I only had 14 hours. I made a little room for just in case I had a little slippage. You know what I mean? If I got a little slippage, but I'm like, boy, I ain't going to be in class all day from no 7 o'clock to 3 o'clock in the evening. And then got to go straight to practice. Oh, no. That's how I was, Joe.

But, no, I had to get up out of it because I started behind. Because, see, my first year, Joe, I didn't take any classes that went towards graduation. because I was in pro I was a pro 48 so I was in what they called developmental studies Okay, yeah So in other words, you have to get out of developmental studies Before you can take classes that goes towards graduation I had to do that too, yeah

So I had reading I had, I had every, so every class I was taking Was developmental studies I never get the first, I walked to the reading My first teacher, Joyce McLemore And I was in the back of the class She said she called my name, Shannon Sharp, I'm here,

that was the only time she ever call me Shannon Sharp. From that, from that point on, she called me Mr. Sharp. So she gave us an assignment. I brought the assignment home. Did it? I mean, took it, did it. Brit did it. Brought it back the next morning. She asked us to pass it in. You know, I first went up there, put the thing up there. She looked over it. She looked at me. Looked over it. She said, Mr. Sharp, come up here. I said, Lord. I ain't even do nothing. Oh, Joe, she put her arm around my waist, and she looked up at me. She said, Mr. Shar, I don't want to see you in here next quarter.

You ain't got no business in this class. You hear me? I said, yes, ma'am. She said, I don't want to see you in here. All right, you can go back and sit down. I got up out of that, Joe. I had English, Joe and I have pretty green.

Well, she ain't bulljide. Man, she gave us a paper the first paper, Joe. Yeah. I like, she had to use by four pins. Ain't no way no one pen had this much. on it. Ain't no way. That woman about a pack of wearing pens.

I said if this woman cut herself on my paper? All these corrections. It was that bad? I know exactly what he's talking about. And so, Joe, and Ocho back then, in order to graduate, you had to pass the Regents. So they give you an essay, they give you two topics. You get to choose from two topics. And you had to write an essay on it.

Now, the problem is is that they send it out. People from your university don't grade it. It might go to Georgia Southern. It might go to somebody from Fort Ballet. It might go. So you don't know who's grading your paper. All you know, they give you a number,

and when you go up there, it'll tell you if you pass or you fail. It has a P or it has an F. Hey, hey, and nobody don't want to say nothing, but you can see, yeah. I guess that means, man, when I went up there and I saw my number, my, my, uh, my code. Yeah. I got one more.

I got one more math, the last one, last quarter. Ocho, but see, here's my thing, Ocho. Reading was the only one that I was in the last year. The other ones, I had to move. I had to go tier two to three to get up out of there. So math was the last one. I was in math. I remember you, Ocho.

Me and math, they never got to. But who are you telling him? So we go in another take, we go in another to take the test. The instructor is passing our pennies because the pen is supposed to be good luck. You know me, Joe. I said, hey, you might as well give him.

I hope you got a pack of penit because he's going to need it. I'm joking jokes. I say, I don't want no penny. I say, I don't need no luck. Give it to me. I'm ready. Give me the test right now. I'm leaving.

I'm getting up out of here. Everybody looking at me like, What is this? Man, what a Sharp bone? Man, when I got that thing, that thing said, I'm through with all these developmental study classes and out of past the Regents. So now I'm starting my sophomore year, everything I do is towards graduation.

Now, in order to take an overload, you got to get the department head to sign off on it. So I got to go there. They're like, hold on, Mr. Sharp, you want to overload? You were in just developmental study classes. I said, yeah, I was. But I got up out of them. Now, I need you to put your name on here so I can get the overload

so I can get up out of here. Yeah. I took 20, I think I took about 21 hours. My sophomore year, my junior year. I was two quarters short of graduating. I came back, got that. Out of there. My grandma saw her baby walk across that stage.

But I was getting to those. Oh, hey, on a roll, on a row. honor roll, deans list honor roll. You made, you made, you made, you made, you made, you made, you made, you made, you graduated to? No. To, hey, Joe, I, hey, I'm with you, Joe, I ain't graduate either, man. I had to get about it.

Man, my brother got two degrees. I couldn't let that, oh, hey, I ain't got no two, but I couldn't let that Joe get that far ahead me. Oh, no. Joe, Joe, we got to. And my grandma said, my grandma said, ooh, she was so proud. My baby graduated. My baby would graduate from college.

Yeah, you pray to many nights for your baby to graduate college. Right, right. Okay, what are you for saying? We got to do what? We got to finish our degree, man. Get our degree, Joe. What we're getting a degree in, bro?

I mean, listen, I'm a master with a criminal justice. No, no, but not. I'm going to do marketing and branding since that's what I'm good at. Marketing and branding. Maybe a minor in business. Yeah, but I'm going to enroll over at FAM, though. Where are you going to go? I'm, uh...

Hey, they told me. Hey, Joe, they told me. They told me you could do it online, too. You knew that? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You know what? Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do, Ojo.

Yeah. I ain't gonna be going no class. I'm gonna keep it real. Hell no. Hey, Joe, I think it'd be good for me too, man. Like, I mean, my grandma, my mama ain't here to see it, but actually being able to walk across that stage, I think that would be something good for me to be able to celebrate, man.

Feel good about your sense? Yeah, just just completing that journey, the journey that she always wanted me to, you know, to be on. Yep. I think I know I know I know I play around a lot, make a lot of joke, but that's something I want to, I want to do. Hey, Joe, and you say something very interesting, Joe, because what I got there, because we asked, man, what you mentioned in? Yeah. Mechanical engineering, electrical engineering, finance, everybody, oh, so everybody, everybody, oh, mechanical engineering, bioengineering, oh, a mechanical engineering, oh, Marine biology.

Everybody got all these. Oh, business administration. Everybody got all these. I said, well, damn. I'm thinking to myself, why y'all in Savannah State then? If y'all, y'all got the grade, you know what I'm saying? I don't know. Right.

My grades, hell, I could have got in prison. With my grade, I understand that. So I ain't fooling nobody. They're like, what you're going to major in? I said, I'm going to major in criminal justice. Right. They're like, criminal justice. I say, okay.

Hey, Sharp, who's your professor? My professor don't teach engineering. They don't teach no, you know what I'm saying? They came right on down there. And the ones that stuck with that class, when I left, I came back and finished up my degree in 91. 93, they finishing up their regress. Yeah.

And some people, they had already took all the credits. They got all the credits that were just taking the regions. They couldn't pass the regions. They cut it out now. I don't think you have to take the regions now. But they couldn't pass their regions. Well, look, when you get to college, boy, you got to really apply yourself.

You hear me? That's, that's the, Uncle Joe, that's the part that I'm worried about, right? Like, the fact that I got 237 jobs, right? How am I going to be able to take my online classes and try to work towards getting my degree? Hey, I don't even know how many credits I need to goddamn graduate.

You can find that, Ocho. Oh, they'll find. that. Yeah. They'll find out. Yeah. I don't know. Oh, Joe. Consider that you went to Juco and none of those are going to apply towards your degree and you only stayed, you only stayed two semesters at Oregon State. You might be further away now than when you started. You got to lock in. You got to lock in. Damn. But all the taste is discipline. Yeah, I got that. It just, you just got discipline. You just got a place. So you know what? Just like you wanted to go to

the NFL. Say, I won't this damn degree. Okay. Well, you know I can lock in that. I can lock in. That's all you got to do. Think about what you did to go to the next left, to get to the NFL. But you know, you had a real passion for football. You're going to have a passion for this work.

Not only that work, Joe. I just want to check. I just want to check that empty space that's them. You want that diploma. You just want to be a big walk by and see that diploma. I do. I just want to be able to hang that thing, hate that thing behind me.

Just something to be proud of. man. It's going to be hard to not, Ocho, because getting to the NFL was a means to the end. You're like, my grandma going to be able to eat, my brother's going to be able to eat, my mom are going to be able to eat, I'm going to be able to eat. You get this degree. Don't nothing

financially potentially comes from it other than the fact yourself. Wait a minute, now. I get that degree. More doors might open for more jobs, man. Hot Joe. Ocho. I don't pay the job that you can keep with that degree.

Hey, look, it's a lot of people out here with degrees that can't use them, Ocho. Yeah, I heard about that too, man. That's messed up. You pay all that money, your old debt, and you can't even get a job in your own goddamn field. Now you're struggling paying back goddamn Sally. Man, man, man, it's ridiculous, man. I agree. Oh, yeah.

Hey, look, I took a couple loans out when I was in college, man, because I couldn't stand walking around being broke. You paid a back? Boy, I ain't had no choice. Look, I left my sophomore. Oh, yeah, but I had them took out probably about $4,500 worth of loans. I ain't never tell my mom. You tell her?

Oh, my problem. Ain't, uh. So look, look, Uncle Ocho, I went pro. The University of Arkansas, the bills kept coming in. My mom was like, well, what, what's all this stuff? I said, I don't pay them people their money back, Mom. I took a couple loans while I was at school. Don't worry about it.

Hey, think about that. Think about that. Yeah, man. I, I, I cross. I mean, I walk the stage. at FMU, y'all get to come out there. We do nightcap in Tallahassee, you know. Oh, man.

That, hey, that, that's a great, that's a good feeling. Ain't, there's nothing, there's nothing like to have your family in attendance. And, you know, I was the second, my brother was the first to get a college degree. I was the second one to get a college degree. You know, we haven't had people that's gone since us. But, and I remember they asked any parent that's proud that the young one, man my brother stood up my brother's my brother's a mama my mama looks me say mama looked up and what you stand up front?

How is responsible as anybody you got to find it. You know it's funny too, Joe? I mean, it's not a bad thing. Obviously, obviously, I mean, I've done some good. Those I have kids from done so good. Three of my kids in graduated college before I even got my damn degree. My son then graduated. My daughter's been graduated from PV.

And, you know, my other daughter than graduated. my goddamn mocha for the graduate from the University of Kentucky next year. So that's four out the dough. I only get it. That's crazy. Damn.

Hey, when you just in Houston, watching one of your daughters? Yeah, yeah, the SEC championship. Oh, she did good. Hey, she made me proud, Joe. She peed y, she peered out there, man, on that four by four, on that third leg. Yeah.

But, Joe, she had to go get somebody. She went and got him. I like, oh, whoa! Now, you go get somebody, go get that degree. You're talking about you got four kids by the graduate. You go get that degree. Oh, yeah, I am. I got two.

I got it. Got a little bad. Oh, got three of my kids. Take your ass, get online and get that degree. Apply yourself. You got, you got it. You got it. Just like, hey, I want this degree.

And when you put your mind to something, you can do it. Most definitely, more definitely. You go to get that degree, man. Ocho, you do it online. You make it even get a little help. You know what I mean? Huh? Don't let French fry beat you out of school,

Hey, hey, if she beat me. Fritz probably going to be holding up on the floor, but daddy, I got mine. You got to be, you got to beat French fries. I got to. I got to. I'm curious to see how many credits I need, how many hours. How ever go? I don't know how it goes at this point.

Yeah, they can find that, bro. I promise you. They can find that. I know it's going to hurt when they tell me how long I got to do. Yes. Yeah, it is. Oh, Joe, our Discord has joke. Check out this image that Peter made for joke.

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From that ass whooping y'all would take it. But don't worry about it. There you go, Peter. He's about to get blocked on Discord. Hey, Peter, appreciate it, bro. Y'all do it too much. USC's lean score, Chad Baker, Mazara. No longer with the program.

Baker Mazar left Sunday home, lost to Nebraska early in the second half, following a hard fall after he blocked the shot from Price-Sandport. Baker Mazzara told Coach Eric Musselman he couldn't go back in, then sat near injured Rodney Rice in the area, excuse me, in the area with fans instead of on the bench with the rest of the team. No reason or details forget for Baker Mazzara's program departure were provided. Ruma was circulating about the age, and having children, but that originated from a parody account.

Joe, what's going on? Man, I think this is the kid that's what, 26, 27, Uncle Ojo? Yeah, I think he's their leading score. Isn't there a leading score? Yeah, he was a leading score, but, you know, I don't think he was playing when Elijah Arena's Gilbert's son was playing. So I don't know if it's because, you know, Elijah and it came back. He's been, he's been bawling.

I don't know what it is, but for them to just send him on his way, he averaging 18, 19 points of game as your leading score. It's got to be something deeper than what we could, you know, ever imagine for real. I'm like, because that just don't make no sense to me. I couldn't understand. If he got hurt and he went to the locker room

and came back out, why he sat in the stands with the fans instead on the bench? There you go, Ocho. That's okay, thank you. That's what I'm like, bro, you're not, I mean, your team sit with your teammates. That's what I don't understand. That's the confusing part to me.

That's what I need some class. clarification on that's what I need someone to explain to me why the choice in the seating did he hit his head he hit his head or something I think he heard like his knee or something I thought I thought it was a pretty gross injury I thought he tore something but obviously he didn't wait was the was the bench fit was there an extra seat for him you think there was a seat left or maybe the bench was full I mean it got to be some kind of reason behind that yeah I just don't know why even so i mean you just go to the end you don't sit in the in the student sex you don't sit with the students yeah i don't know i'm sure at some point time some truth will will come out

and we'll get a better clarification we'll get a better understanding of what actually actually happened because now you can't really trust anything online now because they got so many parity accounts they got so much AI going on oh cho so i just oh choo phlo proclamation is now scheduled to take on Greek kickboxer Mike Zambetus in another exhibition in June and Athens, Greece. This will be two months after the

Mike Tyson fight. Zambetus is an 18-time world champion and retired with a record of 154 and 24. He hasn't taken part in an official fight since June of 2015. Yeah, talk to me. Are you concerned

that Florida is potentially risking long-term help? just to make a quick payday scheduled three fights in one year. The last time, before you go, Joe, the last time, if I'm not mistaken that he fought three times in one year was 2005, and he was 28 years of age. I say, no, I'm not worried about it. Joe, I understand, obviously your spidey senses.

Some things are gone. You're not the same as you was, especially back in 2005, the last time you fought, you know, three times, but obviously you have to look at the opponents that he's picking. He's picking opponents that he know he's going to be able to win. He's picking opponents that he knows he's better than, even with his lack of his lack of not being in the ring, but someone that stays active,

he just hasn't fought in doing these exhibitions. He's going to be okay. He's going to be able to protect himself and be able to hit them at will and being able to protect himself when trying to be hit. Obviously, I forgot the record just said, the guy. What was his name? 157.

Yeah, I mean, obviously, he's probably great in his craft and what he did, but he's no, he has stands no chance in a boxing ring with Floyd Meather, whether he's young, whether he's old, he's in his prime. Hell, he could probably be dude with his jab hand all night long if he wanted to. So again, for one, I think that's a tune-up. The one, the Greek guy, that's a tune-up before he gets to Mani-Packial

because I think that guy is going to probably, you know, try to give him a little show, give him a little challenge. But that's all that is. That's all it comes down to because he knows once you get the Mani-Pakial, all bets are off. All bets off. I agree. That's a real live fight. Ain't no exhibition.

he's not taking it easy on you he gonna go so that that the mike tyson listen give me some let me refit let me refill my pockets real quick boom the tune up fighting against the the greek guy i don't know how to say his name the proper way is a tune up for mani pakey out and then come september in the sphere we're going we're going all out absolutely trying to keep fine tune until you get the pakey out you get that get that rush get that get that ring rush out of you I hate it. I hate it. What you hate it?

Yeah, because I wish Florida didn't have to do this. He made enough money. He shouldn't have to do this. And I don't, maybe, maybe he just wants to come back. Maybe there's an itch that these are scratched. Maybe the competitive juices of Florida again. But when you're talking about Ocho, let's just say for the sake of argument, these are exhibitions.

Floyd hadn't fought three fights in one year since 2005. That's over two decades ago. It doesn't, even if it doesn't look good because sometimes the, the, the, the, a mention of like Florida's broke. I don't know if Florida is broke. Floyd broke compared to other people. It's not the same. It's different.

Now, you know, you hear things that, you know, tax, he owed this person. I saw Logan Paul was talking about that he owes him and some Greek company sued, some Dubai company is suing him for $10 million. I don't know if there's any truth of that, chat. I really, really don't know Floyd's finances and I don't know anybody that knows Floyd's finances. But it's just, man, I just hate this. I hate it, you know, when you heard story of Joe Lewis,

how Joe Lewis had to come out and had to fight much longer than he should have, Ocho. I hate that for guys when they have to do that because they take such a beating when they're in their prime, when they're young, boxing it. Even when the hair gear and you sparring, Ocho, you still get hitting upside your head. It's just like when you play football, yeah, you got a helmet on, but them damn legs still hurt. And when you know, also, Uncle Joe, when you think about it too,

you have to think about it. We talk about Floyd. We talk about Floyd, one that's over his career in 50 fights, hadn't taken much punishment. He hasn't getting that. I mean, obviously you do get hit, but he's minimized those hits in that wear and tear over the years because he's so great at defense.

He's so great at defense. So he's one of the few that can come out. And that's why the first thing I said, he's one of the few that can come out of retirement, even at his age, and still protect himself. It's like, hell, I ain't rode a bike in 15 years, Joe. but if I had to get back on now I can get on there and know what to do

especially when you talk about one of the best if not the best of all time and now depending on your ass when it comes to boxing obviously you know you throw other names in the pot but I think it's going to be all right he's going to be able to do what he needs to do in the ring he knows how to protect himself

he knows how to carry a fight which I think he's going to do for the young bull out there in the Greek guy they're going to face he's going to carry him Not when he does. Hey. My bad. No, no, you go, you good.

You're good. But why is he fighting Mike Tyson, though? Like, the last time I seen Tyson fight, he wasn't throwing no punches. Like, what, you're going to throw no punches? This guy, this fight either. That's what I'm saying. So I know it was somebody, and I'm not saying, you know, obviously, I'm a Tyson fan, but, I mean, damn, Tyson's six.

Well, it's Tyson. At least 60. A couple of years, he got to be at least, Tyson got to be at least, two to three years older than me, and I'm about to be 58. So he's 60, 61. Yeah, I don't want to see the biting the gloves and all that, Ocho. Yeah, because he didn't want to hit him and mess up that money.

Huh? He ain't want to hit him and mess up that money. He, uh, he didn't want to hit Tyson. No, Jake ain't want to hit him. I mean, Tyson ain't want to hit him. He'll be 60, he'll be 60 years old, June 30. Tyson will be 60, June 30. He's born in 66.

I was born in 60. You look at that Jake Paul Tyson fight, like those first two rounds. And if you know Tyson, if you watch Tyson fight over the years, when he comes out, he's straight to action. He straight to action. That was a young game. I mean, even if you're not young, if that's the way you fight, that's the way you fight. You don't change the way you fight over the years. So how you think he's a fighter?

He sits in the pocket and we're going to work. So how do you think he's going to fight Floyd? Florida ain't from to sit there and let it. That's not Floyd. That's not Floyd. I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know what's going to happen with that. Because, I mean, we saw, we saw Mike Tyson and Roy.

You know, and they also didn't want to hit each other. So I'm not sure. But Roy already says that, look, he is not going to hit it. He's not putting to hit my mama child with that left hand. That ain't happened. That hook. That ain't happen. Nope.

Not been to hit my mom. mama son with that little. So Roy, Roy was, was, uh, was honest about, you know,

like, look, he still got power and he still has power. Oh, Joe. We watched him, Joe, and you watched him when they were showing,

uh, the lead up to the fight. Man, you see Tyson hitting that bag. Man. Man, you see how Tyson. Yeah. Yeah. And none changed.

And that's how you know. if you see him hit the bag, you see him hit the mitts, and all of a sudden you get in the ring and you look completely different or you're trying to figure out, why you're not letting go? Why are you gunshot? And he was letting him go. When he was sparring, when he's hitting him,

he was letting his hands go, Ocho. You know, I just look, look, we got to talk about it, so we're going to have to watch so we can provide some analysis, but it's just, I just wish, I just wish at 50 years of age. I don't, you know, I don't, I don't, I mean, could you imagine if you could, if you had to. I mean, I love, I love football.

Yeah. But ain't no way. I was, after retired at 35, I was coming back at 40. Right. No. But hey. Hey, hey, I came back here for it. Did you know what, Joe, Ocho?

If people didn't want to see it, it wouldn't. Yeah. Somebody going to watch it. It's on everybody for you. Right. Netflix got how many, how many countries are there in? 200 countries. country probably got three 400 million subs subscribers

Netflix ain't playing isn't what? Yeah they're definitely going to watch and half the people watching to see them lose Yeah Yeah I just I don't know He wants to do it I don't know I don't know if it's it's just these three fights and that's it Ocho Or he's gonna have more fights in 27

Hey We got But it just goes to show you what current state of boxing is is that people will watch this and they got real fighters. That just goes to show you what the current state of boxing is, don't you? We've got good fighters.

Hey, their fights to be made. Like I said, hopefully Gervante Davis get his situation resolved. But you got the Davis kid, Kishan Davis, and you got your core, and you got Ryan Garcia. You got, you got Devin Haney. You got guys. You got Lomo. I think Lomo retired.

Yeah, Lomo retired. It's one fine. Lomo or Tiofimo? Yeah. I know one of them retired. But there are fights to be made. There are fights to be made. Yeah, Lomachenko retired.

I mean, it's so many. I mean, just the problem is it's too much day of time, huh? It's too much day of time. So while, you know, fights haven't been resolved yet or, you know, too many layers between fighters won the fight, I mean, so something like this, I mean, it's going to have people watching. Yeah. Yeah.

People going to tune in for sure. I guess we have to go watch a couple of rounds, don't you? Yeah. Go watch a couple rounds, but, man, it's like. Hey, we're going to the fight. We're going to the fight in Vegas in September? Yeah. Okay, okay, okay.

We're going to walk in there, but we're going to be clean, too, boy. And we got a good, yeah, yeah, we're going to be clean. Boy, I can't wait, boy. Who you're a suit and booted? Oh, Joe, I might be the clean, Joe. I might be the cleanest one in the house, Joe. I'm going to put these pants all right here, Joe. All right now.

Yeah, you're doing too much. Yeah. Ain't nobody going to be, ain't nobody going to be at that fight in September and he goddamn leopard pants but me, boy. Yeah. Because you probably won't be able to take them off. They're going to be so funky.

Oh, no. They're going to be stuck to you. I'll take these to the cleaners every three days, no. No, you know. Yeah, do cleaners right across the street. That's okay. Okay, I ain't gonna wear him. I'm gonna wear some boots.

I'm gonna wear some boots. I don't know what I'm gonna wear. Joe, what you're wearing, Joe? I'm sure. I'll piece something together. I'm probably put on one of these little fly suits so I got over here, man. I got, yeah, I mean.

A suit, a suit, a suit, suit? Yeah, I'm coming with a suit, man. I'm coming, yeah. Yeah, that's how I'm coming. Yeah. Yeah. You ain't fighting? Huh?

He's like, he's walking the intro, Joe. I'll be the old Joe. Joe, what you put? Yeah, man, I'm coming. I'm coming in. I ain't playing no game, man. You're talking about like a suit like you wear the church? Yeah, I'm coming.

I'm going to be clean, Ocho. Joe, you ain't going to be comfortable. It's a boxing pipe. Yes, I am. Yes, I am. Yes, I am. You'll see. You'll see.

Check me out. Okay, okay. I ain't wear no suit. Because after we had this rematch and I put a pussy in him, he's going to be too sore. His ass is going to be sore. His ass is going to be put pussy. I will be put put put in.

When we get him back on that bowling. Oh, you got a chill. You got a chill. Nah, no, Joe. Because you be brave. I mean, all you do, all you do is be talking to my. The people, the people gave me this title. I didn't have for no title.

I ain't have for nothing. Joe. Man, man, this is what the people wanted. So I have to get a people what they want. Okay. Yeah, yeah. See, you want to get a people what they want all the time. I'm ready.

Yeah. But it's, like I said, hopefully, everything gets resolved. And Floyd goes on about his life and everybody, everybody gets to live happily every after. Yeah. I mean, obviously, some things need to change. Some things need to change because you won't be able to keep coming back out, you know, to be able to do these exhibitions as you get, you know, little.

Well, he better look good. That's what I'm going to say. That boy is going to put on the show up that y'all got Floyd. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, listen, Floyd ain't going to look like Floyd despite, even despite his age because he's always active, Joe, you know. He's always active. So, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean.

I want to see it. I mean, I'm excited because I know what he's going to look like despite how long he's been off, despite having the ring rust. And that's why he's doing the tune-ups before he get the pack you out. Well, I guess I, man, I don't know. I guess I have to wear my Louis pants again

the third time. Okay, okay. I like them thing. I like the thing. No, I ain't wear the damn. I ain't wear the pants. I'll get something. I have something.

I have something. I'll pull something. I'll get a little clean. Yeah, I'm going to be clean, boy. I'll be clean, boy. Yeah, Joe. What you plan on wearing, Ojo? I'm going to wear some cowboy boots, Joe.

Yeah, cowboy boots, nice little jeans. I forgot what they call them in Houston. They call them the jeans. They sit right over. They sit right over. Like, the jeans kind of fit, like, slim a little bit, but it flail out perfectly right at the bottom to go right over the boot. I got you.

Boots. Yep, okay, boot cut. But it's a certain name to it, Joe. I mean, I forgot what it's called. Flair legs? No, no, no, not Bell bottoms, not flare pants. It's a Pacific name, a Pacific Gene. I forgot what it's called exactly.

And it just, it just looked. What did you say? It's a what kind of thing? A specific. Specific. Specific? Specific. I thought you said,

it's the way. I said, that's an ocean. I didn't. I talk fast. I talk fast. I do you do. That's why I get you to slow down. Yeah.

But that's, I mean, that's the thing. Now, everybody's wearing the kind of a little slimmer fit. And then it gets, you know, kind of flare at. bottom. Oh, they're somebody in the chat. They must be from Houston. It's called Stack. They call Stack jeans.

And just everybody I saw in Houston, you know, it's rodeo. It's Rodeo weekend or Rodeo Week, whatever. Yeah. I'm like, well, God, how come everybody's shit? It looked right. It looked perfection. Like somebody tailored everybody jeans to fit perfectly over their boots.

I mean, everybody would clean, Unk. They actually that stole that name because we used to call Stacks platform shoes. Real? That's what Stacks were called. Yes. Back in the 70s, when guys used to wear those flare-old pants,

they had on what we call stacks with these platform shoes. That's what stacks were called when I was a kid. I ain't know nobody, like I said, we called those bell bottoms. Then they call them boot cut. But yeah, that's what stacks were called when I was a kid.

Anybody that's old enough to remember the 70s and 8th, 70s, all the way through the 70s in the early 80s, do anybody know with Stacks platform shoes? Is that what y'all called them? They said jeans and the Houston are called strangers. Yeah, it's like, yeah, stacks.

That's what we call it, oh, Joe. Yeah. I had some, I went to, I had a Halloween party, and I had some, you know, I went. You had some platforms on all? Yeah, I went, I bought. Yeah, how did, how did, how did, how was the hill? Probably like this.

Okay, okay, okay, I see you. You know, you're born with stepping. I had me, we had me an Afro, go. with a jean outfit with a polyester yeah yeah man hey you you got did you know how to do the walk remember the episode of martin remember the fifth episode hey i was strutton you know i was yeah yeah yeah pretty pretty tony man pretty tony uh oh i'm luke wilson join me each week for film never lies since retiring from the nfl i've had a lot of my mind and now got my own show So if you're tired of lazy takes, if you want honest conversations, join us each week.

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Joe, Detroit has traded David Montgomery out of the Motor City. The Lions agreed to trade the running back to the Houston, Texas. and the Lions will receive a Houston fourth round pick, offensive lineman, juice Scruggs, and a seventh round pick in exchange for Montgomery. The move ends the three-year run of Detroit. Well, Montgomery start alongside Jamir Gibbs

as part of the arguably the league's best backfield duo, officially known as Sonic and Knuckles. Oh, Cho, remember we had the conversation last night? Yeah, what is? Did D-Mo talk? Did y'all hear that from me? Mm-mm. Well, hold on.

What, what did I say? What did I say last night? Where would be the perfect place You know? I mean, looking at the landscape, you know, what teams you can go to? You could take some of the pressure off of the quarterback, you know, so he don't have to drop back a hundred times the goddamn game because you have a quality running back you can hand it off to.

Someone that's decent. He can run through the tackles, he can run on the outside. He's decent catching the ball out of the back field as well. Yeah, maybe Houston. That's the right call. And long behold. Joe 24 hours later, he ended up in Houston. That boy was gonna eat over there, you know, Joe.

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. They needed to do. Yeah, because I don't think, Ocho, we talked about mixing and that injury. They didn't seem very positive that he was going to have an opportunity. D'Amico didn't seem very positive about him being able to return. This seemed like a pretty serious injury. Because he missed, I think he missed the entire season.

Yeah, he did. He did. An NFL team reportedly told Fernando Mendoza to get arrested so he slides in the draft and they can draft him. What? Ocho, what was the craziest thing you were asked during a pre-jab process? Oh, that's a great question. Godly, that's a great question. It's a great question. It's one that I can't remember because I can't remember some of the questions I was asked that long ago.

Oh, my God, that's 2000. God, damn, that's a great question. that's a great one. Yeah, I don't think even during my draft process, I think the craziest thing I might have been asked is, why the hell did you bounce around to so many schools? That's about it. Nothing personal. No one took any shots at me, you know, as far as for, you know, character issues.

But they thought it were character issues for me, bounce from school to school. But it wasn't really, Joe, it wasn't really about me getting in trouble. It's just the fact that grades were ridiculous. and obviously I had that one fight at Langston University where I got thrown out, but outside of that, it was nothing for, it was just school. I told them, I told all scouts, I told all GMs. Like, listen, I just want to play football, man.

I didn't want to go to class. I didn't want to go to school. That wasn't my focus. And I felt I was good enough. I could skate by by being graded football and, you know, put school last. Right. I told the truth.

The Chiefs informed Wright tackled Juan Taylor that he will be released before the start of the NFL. NFL's new year barring a trade according to Adam Shepter. The move will save the Chief's $20 million against the salary cap and allow them to be under the cap when the league's new year starts March 11th. While Taylor was productive in pass blocking, he struggled with penalties. Committing 49 penalties, excuse me, he committed 49, Ocho. 41 of them accepted in 45 games with the Chiefs, the most of any lineman during that time.

No one is surprised by this move. he was going to be a candidate to be released or a heavy restructured pay cut, reduced salary. So I don't think anybody's surprised by this movie. Not not with the way he played, especially last year.

I mean, that many penalties, always costing your team. He put them in very bad situations consistently, you know, throughout the season. So I know they're looking forward to probably drafting somebody. I'm not sure if they're going to move

somebody else to the right tackle position. Well, I think they're going to move. I think they're going to move somebody. Because you remember Simmons that they took with Ohio State Kid who played really well, and then he had some personal issues that he had to get resolved. He's going to go to left tackle. And they had a guy at left tackle when Simmons were out. I think they're going to bump him to right tackle.

Yeah, but he was bad. And so, you know, obviously, Trey Smith, who's a perennial law pro, he'll be back at right guard. Creed Humphrey, who's one of the premier centers in all the football. He's back the man down the center. I don't know who they're going to have at left guard, but I think they, you know, they need a running back.

They need a running back and they need some wire receiver. And the one thing, look, if we do know if love is there, they're taking love. You just got to hope somebody don't zoom up past. You don't get him.

And take it, yeah. But, yeah, they got some issues and hopefully my home is on track to be able to go. They might put him on the Pup list. We start the season and he missed the first four games of the season, but we'll see how to,

that plays out. All right, Ocho Joe, it's time to play a of Fay presented by prize picks. Hey, we've been hitting on this, hey? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cage Cunningham, 9.5 assist, Joe. Hold on, on who they playing? Cleveland.

First, that's in Detroit? Yep. Yeah, he's gonna get that. Okay, we're going more. Con Conepple, two and a half threes. They play at Dallas. I don't get where they play it. You can ring him up.

That boy, they're on five. Stefan Castle, two point five turnovers. They play Philly. Philly comes to them. Two point five turnover, so he got to get, what, three? He can't get three.

He has the ball a lot. He does. Yeah. He's going to have let. You believe he'll have three or you believe he'll have two? I think, I think here, I got him less.

I don't think he'll have three. He may get two. I don't think he don't have three. Victor Wimbanyama will have more than three and a half blocks. That means he'll have four because there ain't no way you're going to have for anything. Yeah. Yeah, I think he's going to have four. So we're going more?

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after you play your first $5 lineup. Prize picks. Good to be right. All right. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Hey. You know, I forgot to tell you, Uncle Joe.

You know I was right? You know I was right. I got an X. I'm talking about the X from way, I'm talking about way, way, way back. You hear me? You told my Twitter? That's the only ex I know, Twitter.

No, no, no, this is like, no, this is like, oh, oh, oh, oh, you're talking about, you're talking about, oh, oh, eggs. Yeah, in 2008, you know, I was out with Andre Johnson, right? And she had the nerve, you know, to come up to me and say, oh, I see you still the cheapest man in the world. Mm. You know what I told him. What did you tell him? What did you tell him? I ain't buying it.

What, you wanted to drink? Yeah. Nah. I ain't buying you, man. Stop playing with me, man. Get up out of my face, man. Like, come on, man. We talk about it.

It's been, what, 10, 15 years? She thought things had changed. Yeah, ain't nothing changed? I'm still tight with the E-Pock is still tight. You've never, you've never bought an ex-a-drink? No. I mean, once things, once that, you know. Once it's over, it's over.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if I'm with you, I ain't really spinning like that. So if you gone, you definitely get nothing. But I'm saying you would buy a drink. I mean, you go out, you go out with the ladies. You say, I want to drink. If Cambodia, say, no.

So you ain't buying Cambodia to do a drink. Oh, yeah, I mean, she can get the whole bar. But that's what I'm, that's what I'm saying, no, Joe. But, I mean, we, we, we won. We's a union. But I ain't seen you in damn near 10 plus years. that's what I've said. I say you buy your girl,

if you were your lady, you'll buy her a drink. You just not buy it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to play that. Okay. That's all. To me, that's light,

lightweight disrespect. But then how you, are you still the cheapest man in the world? Yeah. Ain't nothing change. Yeah. Yeah. Filthy McNasty for ISO.

What was your, I'm here moment in the NBA? What did you want to play? Who did you want to play? you want to play with but never had a chance to. Do you believe D.C. will ever be a threat in the East, much love to all? No. The last one, no.

The Wizards is not going to be no threat. Go ahead. They're not going to be no threat. But to be honest with y'all, man, I got a chance to play with, I got a chance to play against pretty much all my idols that I grew up watching and admiring their games, whether it was Jordan, whether it was Penny. I played with Penny Hardaway for two years. Two and a half.

Yeah, I played with Tracy McGready for a year. He came to Atlanta. He played with us here in Atlanta. You know, I mean, those guys were everything to me growing up. Them big tall guards, like, so just getting a chance to compete, getting the chance to get some wisdom from them. You know, I hung out with Penny when we played in Phoenix. Like, go over, he had a big old house in Scottsdale, Uncle Ocho, about $10 million.

I'm talking about it's just him living in there. just him living in that. He had kids at the time, but they weren't living with him. That man lived in $10 million house by himself, man. We should invite. I had my partners who should live with me. He used to invite us over to watch the games. He had a chef the whole nine.

Man, I had a good. My career was great, man. Hey, the NBA don't owe me nothing. You know what, Joe, not as I think about it. I forgot Anthony Davis got traded to the Wizards also. So him and Trey might be able to do something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot AD was in the Wizards.

Well, well, now, you know, it just depends on what his mind, where AD mindset going to be like coming back. You know, hopefully through everything he's been through, you know, coming to Dallas, coming to camp, overweight, you know, getting it regulating their weight, getting his weight right, and coming in the camp ready to play, man, if, if, because I think Trey going to be ready. I think it's going to be up to 80 and what he's capable of doing.

But they got some great pieces, man. And they got a chance to be special, you know, to have a quick turnaround, but it's going to be depending on their key players. Hey, um, and Joe. Yeah. Y'all didn't even get that last one. You know that was a joke, right? What? What joke?

Yeah. My girlfriend said I'm the cheapest man in the world. What did I say? Shit, I ain't buying it. You don't get it? You said an X. Same thing. I ain't buying it.

I got one more good. I got one more good one. Not yet. Yeah, yeah. When we get towards it. Jay, 1984 out, Uncle Ocho, what was the hardest thing to remember in the NFL playbook?

And what was your favorite play to run? Oh, I mean, yours was verbiage, huh? Yeah. I mean, for me, for me, it was pretty easy for me. Obviously, in Cincinnati all those years, we had the number system.

So the number system was pretty much easy. And my favorite route to run, it really didn't matter what was called. I prefer people play man-to-man. They play press or sometimes double-team because Carson and I, we'd always check to a seven route, whether they were playing two-man or whether they're just playing cover two in general. I always had a way to beat that coverage. Obviously, a man-to-man trying to think. I mean, the route combinations were so simple.

I write, I write, uh, 628. I write 5, 5, 5, 20, 5, 20. It's, it's so easy. So easy. So easy. It's easy if you've been doing it's your whole life. Yes. Because the thing is with the playbook is that they install,

you go practice that and then you don't go back over what they install. You go to the next day install. And then you're on to the next day install. And then you're on to the next day install. And then you're on to the next day. So if you're behind, it's so hard. F it up. Yeah.

F it up. That was the hardest thing. Like, you know, you had been in the system. I mean, the plays that you had run in college, I'd run those plays because I had the same coach for four years. So I didn't have to ever learn a new system. And then you get there and everything. The hardest part was it was backwards.

2468 from the time you was this big was to the right. Yeah. Well, in Denver, 2468 was to the left, Coach. 13, 5, 7 was to the right. So they say, you know, a 15, you go into the left. No, you're to the right. Since when is 15 an even number? Even to the right or to the left.

Shannon, are you paying attention? Yeah, I am. I know y'all effed up this. Triple X COPS sanity. Every time ISO is on, it's welcome to nightcap feature Uncle Ocho. and still, see, there you go. Hello, that ain't what it's saying. Hello, man.

Hey, man, can you, man, can you all stop acting like that? I'm just saying, they're getting carried away with it, not, Joe. Man, they, they eyes are not deceiving them. They know what they've seen. Okay, Ocho? What y'all want the people to do? I mean, that was two weeks ago, Joe. That was two weeks ago.

That's all they got to go off for, Ocho. All right. All right. Terrence G. start bench, trade, Bo Jackson, Earl Campbell,

O.J. Simpson. Damn. Look, we know what OJ was accused of and all that of the stuff.

But the football player, everybody wanted to, if you grew up in the 70s and you played running back, 32 you wanted to beat. Yeah. Now, I ain't telling

what somebody, I ain't telling him told me. I'm telling him everybody wanted to be him, the Jews. And he was the first black, had major commercials. In movies.

Movies. He had hurt. He had car commercial. He had the orange. He was him. I would start me. I'm starting OJ. Bench.

Damn, I don't want to get rid of her. You're going to have to because I know you ain't from the bench. Bo. No, cut. Cut both. Cut, cut, both. No, you got to start being straight. Trade, cut, same thing.

You're going to trade Earl. You're going to trade Earl? Yeah. Y'all don't, see, y'all are too young to remember Earl. I remember Earl? The Tyler Rose. Hold on, Earl, which Earl? Which Earl?

And do you with the oil? Earl Campbell. Yeah. Yes. Love your Blue. The 1977-Hivesman trophy winner. He goes to Houston. And he's the three.

He's a three-time, Ocho, he's a three-time offensive player of the year. Yeah. He all they had. Well, they had, they had Ken Burroughs, double zero. I think they had Mike Winfro.

I'm trying to think, who was the damn? The damn, they had a nice defense, too. They had a Dr. Dune, Elvin, Bethay, Curly Cup. Yeah, that's tough. To start, I'm going to start, O.J.

I'm going to trade. come on now come on now well it shouldn't even take this long it does yes it does because uh look I only got you only got first of all you only got two years of both

in the NFL what the hell you're talking about I mean we talk about bow y'all better go back I don't go back and y'all I didn't see Earl I don't see him in the powder blue oiled jersey with the white helmet running through people's chest I remember jersey torn off

still move yeah yeah Yeah, but I'm... It's tough. Nah, I'm a bench bow and I'm a trade Earl. That's what... There you go. There you go. But, Juan, Palafox, 97, Ocho,

what are your three favorite quotes by Unc that you've written down? I don't got my pad in front of me, now. Bring the pad on Wednesday. Uncle Mike, 1988, one time for the nightcap squad. Show held me up in some dark. days which state has produced

the best football players, Texas, Cali, or Florida? Florida and Texas. Gotta be Florida and Texas. Hey, y'all be sleeping on Georgia now. Georgia got some good one now. They produce them. Y'all y'all produce them. But their damn

Texas and Florida, wherever it's warm at. Wherever it's warm at, if you want to look at the best players, go where it's warm. Yeah, California, you got some dogs too. Yeah. It's Mad at 2215. All hell King Isso.

Hello. Hello. Shout out to Ocho for calling the trade destination for Debo yesterday. Fellows, are y'all going to any World Cup group matches? Okay. I'm going to as many as I can hit. That's it. Get it fresh.

Hey, Ucho, ISO. Have y'all watched every day? I am. I've watched y'all every day. day. I would like a shout out to my fiance Breesh. She has successful surgery to get a defibrillator in her chest.

Breach, I think it's breechie. Breachy, your fiancé wants to tell you how proud he is of you and how thankful he is for you. And here at Nightcap, Uncle Ocho and I, and the

entire Nightcap family want to wish you a speedy recovery. We know you're going to do just great and congratulations on everything guys. Look forward to seeing you guys walk down the aisle. Oh yeah. I wrestle, I win. Ocho, act like a grandma

when you're on the phone when it's lighting with that nightcap sign. Bobby's World, let's do a nightcap NCA bracket. We're going to get something autograph from the big three. Ocho, what you're thinking? What you're thinking, Joe? Oh, yeah. Y'all going to lose that one too. Don't do that, Joe. There you go. There

You go, Joe. I'm just keeping it real. I mean. No, you're not keeping it real. Ocho going to pick mascots because he ain't going to know. Tim B and say, if math ain't math, well, the person would be me. Yeah, man, me and math, I don't know what it is, man. They start talking about the pie root and you got five different ways you can solve a problem.

Nah. Oh, we. Alan Fletcher, Ocho, enroll at FAMU and let me do your school work. Well, how much you charge him? I'm going to try a few grand. Ocho, don't you want to do the own work? Yeah, I'm going to do it myself. I don't really need no help.

I mean, whoever it is, they ain't going to be smarter than me, no way. Big Mike. Oh, can you explain when Tyson fought Andrew Galada, why he just walked out of the ring? Baddy here, Andrew Galada so hard. Andrew Lotton. Hey, it's straight inside. We tried to get him to go back in there. Galada said, man, I'm dumb here.

Man, y'all go in there and take them lick. Tyson said, well, I'm doing with this, man. That man ain't going to fight. Let me go. Rari underscore 2 ads. Thanks for the free entertainment. And cap a lot. Ocho, keeping the buck.

With all the money the Cowboys got in free, all the money the Cowboys got free, they're going to need all defensive players they can get. Yeah. You're right. Yes. They need a stud. They need a stud.

need a stud as a middle backer. Somebody who can cut, who can Rick having it. They need somebody going to go get that cut to quarterback. Hey, Joe, I know that's your team, right, Joe? But if you look at what Jerry Jones has always done every offseason, when does he ever spend in free agency? When does he ever make a big splash? He said this, you're going to be different.

Joe, Jerry never spends a free agency. Jerry never makes a splash. He makes a splash with his own players. and he waits into the last minute to make that splash, but he just never done it and going to acquire someone from the outside and free agency and brings them in that can make a huge difference.

And this would be the year to do it. Now, he always says a lot of things that he's going to do, but he never fulfills him. He spent early. You know, he went and got T.O. You remember, Ocho, he gave her two first riders to get Joey Galloway.

I think the thing is that he's kind of been burnt with some of the free agencies that he's gone. It's not, it's who you get in free agency. Right. And so he's kind of missed and it's kind of got him gunshot. So he's kind of hesitant right now, Ojo. But I'm going to take him out of Joe.

He's saying he's going to spin. Okay. I know I know who he's going to get then. That's the case. Righteous Kato, Louisiana got some dogs too now. They do. They do. They do. Yeah. I mean, basically it's, it's, it's, Georgia, Texas, Cali, Louisiana, then you probably go, what, Ohio? I would say that.

Ohio normally have Lyman, Ohio. The southern states normally have the speed guys, wire receivers, running back D.Vs. Texas, the quarterbacks, Cali, quarterbacks. Because, you know, you got two guys, you got Stroud, and you got Bryce Young, and you got Jane Daniels. Yeah. So that concludes this episode of Nightcap. I want to thank you guys for tuning in and joining us.

We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. That is my partner and co-host. Liberty City's own Bingo Great, Chad, Ocho Sinko Johnson, and the University of Arkansas alum, Arkansas Little Rock Native,

a seven-time NBA All-Star with the Atlanta Hawks, ISO Joe Junk. Yes, sir. Thanks for jumping on with us tonight. We appreciate that. Thank you all for having. me man please make sure you hit that subscribe button please make sure you hit the like button and do us a favor go subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from

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