Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Utah takes down Oklahoma State, Jerry Jones comments on Jamie Foxx IG live, Tom Brady mind games

Episode Date: September 22, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocino" Johnson react to Utah's big win over Oklahoma State. Later, Unc and Ocho go in on Jerry Jones' full denial of the Cowboys running back situation, his viral "meat" comments on Jamie Foxx's live video, Baker Mayfield says Tom Brady had the Bucs locker room stressed out and much more!03:18 - Jerry Jones' weird comments31:00 - NFL News57:00 - Q And Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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wagering and eligibility restrictions, terms and responsible gaming resources. ["Driving the World"] Jerry Jones made his weekly call into a Dallas radio station, 105.3, the fan on Friday. And he went full blown denial mode when asked about the team's current running back situation. This is a little bit of a first for me because I've never seen so much made of our position and what it's doing at the position running back this year, not having done this or having done at running back, running back is just not on our radar as far as an area of interest. Really?

Okay. Although, let me read what he said. Okay. I don't have anybody else in the world asking me about some media. A few of the media have gotten out here and written some stories early about what's going on with a running back in the draft or how we need a running back. And they're going to try to cover their, you know what, as we go through the season over the over the two games, eight teams have fewer rushing attempts than the Cowboys, 46. They have 170 yards rushing. Only six teams have the mass fewer. They're tied for the six lowest yards per carry average. 3.7. The team's

biggest ground game, uh, biggest yards has come so far is 12 yards tying them for two other squads for the shortest long run. Elliot and Dowdell are dead. Even as a team leading rush Russia with 56 yards each. That puts them on 49th or 50th place among all ball carriers league wide. In fact, they both rank lower than every other club. Top Russia, 17 teams have more. Than half the NFL to Russian head of them on this yardage list. Yeah.

But he says it's not a problem. Oh, it's not, it's not a problem. Obviously when you, when you look at it from a statistical standpoint, listen, they're bad and that they're at the bottom of the barrel in, in, in that, in that, um, in that category, but you have to remember the position itself is not badly anymore. They feel they can plug anybody in unless you are top tier, one of the top tier, you know,

your Nick Chubbs, your Christian McCaffrey's, you know, your Derek Henry's. Obviously they had opportunity to get Derek Henry. They felt they didn't need Derek Henry, you know? And it just goes to show how teams and organizations, owners as well, feel about the running back position. We feel we can we can we can pull and plug. We can pull somebody from anywhere else and plug them in and

they'll be fine because it is a now pass happy league. It's a bet that is what they do. They throw the ball 60 70 goddamn time the game. We'll run it will run the ball every so often to keep it somewhat balance. The throw a defense off, but as far as needing a special running back or drafting the running back high, I mean, they're just not gonna do it. How about you need more than what you got?

I ain't saying you gotta take a quarter of running back with a number one overall pick. But what you gonna, if you think you gonna win a title or you're gonna go very far with this level of running game, man, Jerry out of his mind, all of it, right? All of it. Let me think about her. This is how delusional you must be. I think Zeke had a great start to his career,

but you release Z because you didn't believe he had what it takes to get you to the next level. And then you bring it back. What you thought that him going to going to New England that that reinvigorated him, rejuvenated him. And now he coming back with the juice in the times that he had his first two, three years. Right. Did I miss a mojo? I mean, continuity, familiarity with the offense, with the system, the players, the coaches, the staff, the organization in general. I mean, they brought him back. But again, I think the releasing of Zeke was obviously, you know, it was many reasons he was hurt. His knee, his knee was messed up his last year in Dallas. Yeah.

He was wearing a brace at the time. He really wasn't the same Zeke due to those injuries and those lingering issues. But now I think Zeke is somewhat healthy, I assume. He's not the Zeke of old, obviously. It's hard, Ocho, when you play that position and lose it. When have you ever known a running back to lose it and get it back? And get it back, yeah, it's difficult, it's difficult.

That's really the one position, you've seen quarterbacks, you've seen wide receivers, you've seen DBs. You see Sherm, how he came back to life. When he went to San Francisco, running backs, we don't normally see that, especially with the number of carries ZK had on his legs early. They ran him into the dirt. Yeah, yeah they did, they did.

Well I did, after injury, I did see one running back come back after injury and didn't miss a beat. And they called him all day. Yeah, but hold on. He didn't lose it. I'm saying lose it. Zeke ain't lost it because this notion, hold on. You saw Zeke, if you look at his rookie year,

and his numbers kept doing this. Yeah. Adrian Peterson was still at the top of his game. We just didn't know he could come back and pick up where he left off after injury. We thought it was going to take at least a year because he tore that knee up in December. He came back that following season and was seven yards, was eight yards short of breaking it nine yards short of the all-time record. He ran for 2097. He was the MVP. He never lost it. Yeah. But when he did, remember when he did Arizona, how do you look at Arizona? How do you look at New Orleans? Right. When you lose it,

you lose it and try to recapture. Running backs don't get an opportunity to, now, yeah, if it's a spring forward or fall back, you could turn the clock back. But that's the only thing you could turn back, not on your body, not with a running back, not with that kind of mileage, because you have to realize at that point in time, how many carries had AP had?

How many carries have Zeke had? Those running backs, You look at those running backs, Ocho. You're talking about a thousand, fifteen hundred. Right. A two thousand, damn, the two thousand carries on those legs. Especially in it, especially with the way Asian Peterson plays. Yes. Violent. Violent. He was a, he and Zeke was a run to collision. Right. They didn't dodge anything. Benzie was a run to collision. Right. They didn't dodge anything. Now that's a great running style.

They say, you see how tough I am. But after a while. Yeah. That catches up with you. They take a toll on you. Yeah. Look at Earl Campbell. That's why our Campbell career was so short.

Earl was a run to contact. Oh yeah. It was great. He lowered the boom. But I don't know if you've seen Earl been people have seen him man. Hey, I Don't wish that on nobody you bet it will huh? He got I don't think he can't even the wheelchair ever since I've not mean damn I mean, I think I he stood didn't he stand one time asked you he went on the field at University of Texas

I think he stood when they had all the like the Heisman Trophy why I think it was him and Ricky Williams I think those are only husband tro trophy winners that they got at University of Texas. But yeah, man, it is his, his leads. He has seven. He had a hell of a run. Oh yeah. It was short and good, but it was a hell of a run when he was with the oilers. Nasty. colors. Nasty. He was he was he was something special. Man. Man, Ocho. Yeah. Did you see Jerry? He Jamie Foxx was doing a live stream and he was talking about some things. Okay.

And put the video up. I didn't want to talk about this, but the chat y'all keep on y'all y'all y'all. I don't know what hell Lord have mercy. Hey, show balance. I'm not too. I'm not too. Three inch. Eight and a half. Hey, what's wrong with Jerry man?

Man, I mean, that's really not the conversation to be having. No, I haven't. I mean, that's really not the conversation to be having. No! Why am I having that conversation with another man? Especially in that environment. I don't know what's wrong. I don't know what's wrong with Jerry. Maybe he didn't know Jamie was filming at the time. I'm not sure. Man, I ain't having no conversation.

Me and no homeboys, my friends my best friend bucket ain't nobody talk about no me not like I mean that's that's a conversation that's really never ever had that's a conversation that's no when you with your lady and you know I'm like hey what you want for dinner tonight you like I had some I was thinking about maybe maybe get some pasta I said what about some to steak I got the, I got the tools. They write, well done. Nice and juicy for you.

I got to use that one. I got to use that. But I'm saying, oh, Joe, that is no conversation that you have with another man. I don't know what's wrong, Jerry. Oh, Lord. I don't know if he was trying to be he was talking cold or was he trying to be funny or trying to be, I have no idea.

I really have nothing to say about that. Jerry Jerry, again, I'll say it again. He needs to sit down, take a back seat, let the players play, let the coaches coach, and let's see what happens. Like you said, he's not gonna let it. Ocho, there's certain conversations that guys just don't have.

Yeah. We don't. That's one of them. Well, ain't nobody talking about nobody talking about no me. That's one of them. Come on, man. Yeah, Jerry Trippleboy. That's your boy though, that's your boy.

And I'll be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. Hey, where you going with this? I mean, hey, you know, guys start talking. I'm like, hold, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. Hey, where you going with this? I mean, hey, you know, guys start talking. I like, hold on, where you going? So hopefully it starts right here, right where I ain't, cause I don't need to hear nothing else, bro. Nah, I don't know what you, huh? Not by that.

Talk about me, oh, come on, man. Ain't nobody imagine no me. Man, I don't know, man, come on, man. Man, I've been a lot, man, I've been a lot of locker rooms. Damn, man, my whole life, I'm a man. Come on, man. Man, I've been a lot man. I've been a lot of locker rooms. Damn to my whole life. I mean what I played from Pee Wee all the way to my NFL career. I played 26 seasons of organized football. In a lot of locker rooms. And when you talking to a guy y'all in the shower, you keep eye contact.

Always. Straight ahead. Yeah, you ain't no lame. contact always straight ahead never look left never look right same thing no hey listen it's called etiquette it's called shower and it's called bathroom etiquette at the urinal for one you go into a bathroom even in public even in the locker room you always skip your funeral you always look forward if you. Yeah, you always gotta sit next to somebody, Ocho. Never, and you always look forward. If you hold the conversation, you never look left or right. Yeah!

Never. Man, Ocho, guys, I ain't gonna be rude. You know, I'm trying to be level. But bro, I'm not shaking your hand. We at the urinal, don't you reach your damn hand across there talking about what's up, huh? Not shaking your hand. I'm in the bathroom the other. Oh Joe get what the guy say. Oh, let's get a selfie Come on now y'all do it come on bro y'all do it too much

Only I only hey all I'm gonna do you give you a little head nod in the bathroom I give you head nod. Hey, we can have a conversation outside. We're not finna have no conversation. Yeah, a lot of people don't understand bathroom etiquette, especially in public, you might see someone. Who's shaking? Oh Joe, I don't give a damn if I know you. If I'm coming in the bathroom and you coming out,

I ain't finna daft you up, cause I ain't show you, wash your hands. Cause I done seen too many people go in there, drop mud and come up out there, pull their pants up and walk right up out of there. Drop mud? Yeah. I like that.

It's a good one. I ain't never heard that. Drop mud, okay. Yeah. And walk right up out of there. I gotta use that. I said, oh nah, nah, nah man. So that's why, hey, in the bathroom,

I'm just, hey, yeah, nah, hey, how you doing? But man, people, you don't realize Man, so that's why I in the bathroom after a nod. Hey, how you doing? But man, people, you don't realize how nasty people are until you go into the bathroom at airports. And then you see, man, the joke is come up out of that thing. Oh, Joe, pull that pants up, walk right around the luggage around, right, walk right up out of there.

I wouldn't eat at the house if I was a hostage. Now, this is going to let me starve. Keep me down here in the basement. Don't you break me ish. Nothing. Nasty mofo. Oh, no. Now they go pee and wash their hands. Bro, damn. Yeah.

How you walk right by the sink, Ocho? Because normally the urinals over there and you got to walk by the seat. Yeah. In order to get out the door. You got to know how you walk by the now. Watch your nasty hands. And then you will go order. I feel standing right in the line or the chick filet or Popeye.

Pussy hands are here now. Mm hmm. That's why the A. And you know, you know, you trying to get on the fist bump, no they were, hey, let me shake it. Bro, there you go, power. Power to the people.

Number one. Oh, hell no. Bad through manicure people, bad through manicure. You gotta learn that. Yes, that's all I'm saying, bro. No, I don't think I'm better than you, but I just know through my experience of traveling, I've seen too many people come in the bathroom

and walk right up out of there after peeing or dropping mud. And then I'd be like. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Uh-uh. And do you think I'm supposed to just like, hey, just shake it, just have a conversation with you? Mm-uh. And do you think I'm supposed to just like, hey, just shake it, just have a conversation with you? What you in town for? Bro, why we talking?

How come? Who having a conversation? What was so important that you got to have a conversation in the bathroom? Chat, am I wrong? I mean, people might think I'm like bro. I'm not going to have no conversation with you in the bathroom man with you and how long you in time. Listen

II say one thing if you try to engage in conversation. I'm how I'm not outside bro. Yeah. I'm not outside. This is okay bro. I mean it and people, hey, oh, Joe, the people. Me and Ash, Joe were traveling yesterday. Yeah. So we all sitting. We got our luggage. We tried.

We got a little thing blocked in. Dude said, hey, you mind if I sit down and talk to y'all? Hey, look at me. Jordan looked at me. I look at my bags. Sure. I look at my bags sure Which I was talking about

We would just do we just talk it cuz we got we we've been uh, what the hell were we DC? Oh, we were in DC. Yeah, we got delayed so we don't we just sit down You know, we just sit down talking laughing. Yeah, and the guy just kept hovering around, you know, like and you know me Oh, I ain't trying to make no car. I can't yeah Ashen no good ventriloquist or nothing, you know the guy That guy who Jordan like hey you right till you till you're right ball like yeah, I see it It's like he go come on Sure enough, he came up. You mind if I mind if I sit down and talk to you? About what?

Hey, man, they just want to engage in a little conversation, man, get a chance to, you know, know you personally, you know, they see you on TV, they see you on nightcap, you know, and it's an honor. It's an honor. You have to understand. Uh, but normally when I go into a public, when I go into a bathroom, I'm trying to hold my breath. It's thinking there.

Okay. You're right. You're right. You're right. I ain't trying to talk. I got to breathe in order to talk. I ain't trying to breathe them fumes in. But you also have to understand who you are.

People don't really have a chance to see you often, you know, so anytime they get a chance even- Wait two minutes, you can see me outside. Even if it's in the bathroom. No, they're going to say something. I go in, as soon as I hit the door, I hold my breath. Oh man. Oh, that's crazy. I think- just got to go. I ain't never going. I ain't going to. Oh no.

I wait. Right. Definitely going over and please. Oh, you don't do number two in public. Oh no. Oh, I wish I might. Well, listen, if I get back out of the time, guys, look like somebody to smash the pumpkin against the wall.

Oh, hell yeah. I know. I know what you mean. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know wish I might. Well, listen, if I gotta go. Half the time guys look like somebody that threw a smash the pumpkin against the wall. Oh hell no. Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm not nasty. I listen, I'm using the bathroom.

If I got to go number two, in most of the time in public restrooms, they don't have. Oh no. They have the toilet seat cover. Nah, I'm good. I'll wait. I can wait.

You put a toilet seat cover on now, you know, to protect. But they ain't got no toilet seat cover? Nah, I'm good. I'll wait. I can wait. You put a toilet seat cover on now, you know it protect. But they ain't got no toilet seat covers in there. People done peed all on the floor. Ah man, come on man. But damn, where the hell you at? But it ain't ruining the bathroom like that. In the airport. Oh, but they think that.

You know people don't give a damn about no airport. They done peed all over the seat and everything. Ah, nah. I ain't never had that problem. No, I'm good. I wait. I be constipated. I have to go to the emergency room and let him give me an enema. I ain't going in the public bathroom that they have. Listen, damn sure.

We go to the airport. They don't have the if they don't have the toilet seat covers that they they normally have in there. You take the toilet tissue and you lay it down. Three, hey, you got three, two sides. Two down the side, two down the top. I'd rather go, what you call them. I'd rather pull aside the road and go in the woods.

Nah, okay, well, you know what, you're used to that. That, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, I keep, I keep a roll of toilet paper in my, in my car. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, that, that visual, that's, that's, that's a little nasty. The visual is, I keep to I keep a roll of toilet paper in my car. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay Okay, that visual that's a that's that's a little nasty The vision is I'm a pull side the road on 16 going to my grandma house plenty of time and run off in the woods Put the flashes on pull right side the road right down 16 run in the woods and go do what I do and come right on Up up back out of there. Oh, just teach you got the wipes

Hey, I know why back then I there. Oh, it was just tissue. You got no wives. I had no wife back then. I got wife now, but that's been about. Probably about 1314 years ago because I had been to Glenville and that I have been to Glenville since 2012. Yeah, OK, I got you.

I got you. I got you. But oh yeah, I got I got I got wife now. Yeah, you better than me for that public. But you know, back in the got I got wife now. Yeah, you better than me boy Because I'm public. I'm but you know back in the day. Oh Joe. They have no tissue. You had corn carbs That's what when somebody say oh i'm in country of the corn carb in our house, right? Right? That's what you used to clean your butt weird Everybody have no toilet paper Yeah, I don't I don't shoot. Hey, I got I got I got a little but that no at the house man. So Huh?

but that Oh, yeah, huh? But that. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Got to make sure that. But they, but they. Okay, okay. My bad. I don't know the pronunciation of it.

But you know, you got, oh, you do realize now you got the toilets that'll do all that. Oh yeah. That's what I'm talking about. We got, I mean, I just, she got those. Listen, I walk in my bathroom, the toilet, the seat raise up on its back. Listen, I walk in my bathroom, the toilet,

the seat raise up on its own. And when you away from it, it goes down and flushes. Go. Yeah. Automatically have the light in it. Yeah. Yeah. Got a little blue light.

Oh, no. But see, I ain't going to have those problems because there are only certain things that I'm going to eat when I'm in an airport. I already know what's going to be, because I got, you know, I got lactate, I got a volume, I got certain, I got Pepto tablets, I'm in the airport. I already know what's going to be because I got, you know, I got lactate. I got a volume. I got certain I got pep toe tablets. I got all got I got all that stuff and a little container.

Mm hmm. So I already know what I can and can't eat. Right. And normally, shelly's already done briefed me. Okay. What do they have for breakfast? What do they have for lunch? I could do the eggs probably could do.

You know, they got chicken sausage or something. Something like that. I already know I ain't doing the yogurt. I ain't doing the cold cereal. I ain't messing with nothing. If they got anything to do with apples, I don't fool with it. Because I already know. No dairy.

No dairy. Period. Okay. Did I eat everything? Ocho, let me ask you this. Yeah. If you were on the plane next to someone. Yeah.

And they were snoring, what would you do? If they were snoring? Yeah. You know, if you're on the plane and you're next to somebody snoring, you just tap them lightly. Like, not to wake them up, but just tap them lightly. If you tap them lightly, it throws the storm off rhythm. And it gives you a little grace.

It gives you a little grace. So if you wake them up and they go back to sleep, they're gonna go right back to snoring. But when you tap someone and you kind of get their attention a little bit without waking them up, it stops them from snoring for a little bit because real real snore, real snore, real sound like a rhino. She said, but you know what you signed up for that in the bay. I look, I ain't got no, I ain't got no problem with that. I'm like, damn, you know, like, hey, you know, I might touch it.

If you next to me and you snored, oh, I woke a guy up. I said, my man, you know, I'm like, hey, you know, I might touch him. If you next to me and you snoring, oh, I woke a guy up. I said, my man, you're like, oh, excuse me. Is everything okay? No, you snoring. Hold on. So what happened if you dated somebody that you were in love with, or you might not even get in love?

I don't have no problem. I'm gonna tell you, you know, normally, if somebody's snoring, your girl's snoring, you touch them, they gonna like, you know, they gonna move a little bit, to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're

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for a few seconds. Nah, but I ain't pay that kind of money sitting in that seat here, you snore for the next three hours, oh no, that ain't gonna happen. You can't control that, huh? That's a part of- I know, I can, I work his ass up. Y'all didn't pay for this.

Oh, hell nah. Oh no, hell no. Some things out of control. That's what you call them. I know somebody, he told my man don't wake me up, bull jive. Hey, that's why you put you in the back. Right.

He gotta go to the back. Cause first of all, even if you put Jordan can be in the first seat behind first class He gonna be the last one get off the plane. He don't let everybody get off the plane. I like Jordan. What are you doing? I Let everybody grab their bags and go before him. So guess what I do now I'm gone. I'll see you at the hotel. Oh you as ya But I'm not fit to wait Last year, where is George ash? We're like, I don't know. He was right behind me

He's got everybody I'm like Jordan you don't work for these people He's got everybody bag down and hand them down and hand them their bag. I'd be in a good smear. And at times there's nothing. It makes you feel good about yourself. You know, yeah, you go to America. Hey, guess what? Guess why be at the hotel in my room by the time you get there? Yeah.

You're not going to have me because he already knows more. I wait wait, people done got the plane, they done saw me, they wanna take pictures, they wanna take all the breath. Okay, I see what you mean. I said, hey, don't worry about it. Well, Sheldon like Jordan's in the back, that's where he's supposed to be.

Give me a good head start, I got a reason to leave his ass now. Oh no. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Some days I wish that I was the one. It could be me and you and it would be so fun. All I know it could have been you. Why would you leave me? Don't tell me no. Well, you're terrible girl.

Long as you know, it's me. I don't care whether you see. I don't care whether you see. I don't. I feel good. Call Sark first. It's boney moan now. Well it wasn't on the beginning. We will have more for the week. I promise you all that.

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podcast. Oh Joe, Baker Mayfield said, Tom Brady intensity led to a stressed locker room. The building was a little different when Tom was here. Obviously playing wise, Tom is different. He had everybody dialed in high, strong environment. So I think everybody was pretty stressed out. They wanted, they wanted, they wanted me to come in and be myself, bring the joy back to the football for our guys who weren't having much fun. Baker said Brady had a very, had very different person.

He and Brady have very different personalities. Brady would play mind games that included unseen battle between quarterback and play caller. You hear some of the stories about it and didn't play a certain call. If a certain play was called and he didn't like it throughout the week and they still called to play in the game, there might have been a throwaway on purpose or throwing it at the running back or the receiver's feet. There's a lot of mind games going on. You got a problem with Baker airing out a secrets. I mean, no, not at all. I mean, those aren't bad secrets.

If you understand what it takes to win and based on Tom's resume and what he's done in the past, it obviously works for him. He went from New England and went to Tampa Bay and won a Super Bowl his first year there. So obviously the secrets that he is letting out and exposing is a good thing. Now it might not work for Baker, but it worked for Tom. And there's a reason why they got a goddamn Lombardi because of those secrets that he's talking about. You mean to tell me like highly successful people won't things a certain way and they expect it to be that way.

Yeah, most definitely. Oh, most definitely. No, definitely. Especially those that know what it takes to win. Yeah, that's his own. And you know what you should know. You play with it. This ain't no surprise to you. Yeah. And then also the funny thing about it is the New England time, Brady and the Tampa Bay time, Brady.

You got to see his personality. You got to see the fun side of Brady. You got to see Brady on social media. You got to see Brady the content creator. Man, some of those videos were creative and you got to see a different side of him that was more fun, it was more relatable, even if you didn't play the game of football.

But it's cool. Look, I understand. I understand. That's how Mike, what look, Mike, I think the thing is, like, like, Mike allowed us to have fun, but we knew when it was time to work, it was time to work. I made sure that because I like the privileges that we had, he let us be loose. But it was my responsibility to make sure that when we showed up to practice, we showed up to walk through, except that day to they came out there with

flip flops and Tim's on and walk through. Yeah. My that is won't ever happen again. I say, see, you can't let us have nothing. You know better. We don't take it. I don't know how Mike is. We don't take it too far every time. Me, look, that's Baker told that I wouldn't have told it.

I'm not I'm not I'm not surprised that Tom was wired like this. You don't win that much by accident. Things have to be because that's what he used to. Where did he come from? People that were in the military, they normally have a very strict household because they're used to structure. Make your bed, put your shoes up, take your shoes off, put them dishes up. Don't leave dishes in the sink. Put that trash away. Take that trash out. That's how my grandfather was. Right.

So structure. I thrive in structure. Now, I come home and stuff without a whack. Why? I just need to know why. Because I'm the only one that's left that's left for work. Right. So yeah, you say, are you looking?

Yeah, that's the look. That's the look. Now you see, right. It's got to be a certain way. I work well with structure. I work well with discipline and uh, but I don't believe it. I don't believe cause you know, look, people love Tom. I don't think anybody's surprised by this

When you win like he's one you see him on the sideline when things do not go in his way Guys dropping pass or things up if they're not in sync, right? So I'm not surprised one bit by this I'm not I'm not surprised at all. Yeah, it's not a bad thing either It's not a bad thing either. It's not a bad thing. I think if we were talking about something that wasn't successful, what they were doing and still had that same approach to it,

where it was. Oh, no, you can't, well, I don't see our situation that you can be like that, because ain't nobody gonna listen to you if you're not successful. Nobody gives a D. There you go. So you got to have a level of success.

Coach Belichick, had he not won early in New England, you think they're going to listen to him and let him, let him get away with what he got away with. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. It's the same thing with Tom because Tom had won so much. And I was, Hey, what do we got to lose? We ain't won Jack in 20 years. Here we go, why not? That's why if you win, guys will follow you.

It's easier to get people to follow you when you're winning as opposed to when you're losing. They're like, pick up. Oh Joe, you know this. I mean, we lose a couple of games. Hey, stop sitting on your helmet. Oh, so that's why we lost the game because I'm sitting on my helmet now. Yeah. Everything. Oh, pick up the trash. So the team knew

we had a dirty locker room. Oh, they got a dirty locker room. We're going to run through them. Right. Yeah. Come on, man. They find every little thing. Everything. Why we lose everything is magnified. The locker room was dirty when we was winning too. Everything's magnified. It is. It absolutely is. According to Adam Schefter, several teams have expressed interest in trading for Bryce Young. You're never going to get what you gave up to get him. Despite the fact Dave Canales said Carolina Panthers did not intend to trade the former number one overall pick. He said you were going to bench him either. According to Schefter, although the Panthers have said they don't plan to trade young at this time, sources around the league believe it's only a matter of time before Carolina actually

does complete a deal. I like to see him. I like to see a change of scenery. I like to see a change of scenery. Where he goes is very important. Um, I'm not sure if he'll be a starter, but maybe due to injury based on where he goes, if a starting quarterback goes down and he's able to get in there with an adequate offense, with a good supporting cast, then we can get to see the Bryce Young that we're used to seeing when he was at Alabama. And it's unfortunate that it came to this. And I think the benching is so early and only a second year because of the impatience of Dave of Mr. Tepper and Dave can now let's knows that knows that very well you know the fire frame right Frank right 11 games in in a season because things were going well.

That's because the list knows that as well he knows his leases short if they don't continue with and he just felt that they couldn't win the bright young at the time. short if they don't continue with it. And he just felt that they couldn't win the brights young at the time. And he's gonna learn. I don't think much is gonna change with Andy Dalton at the helm too. No, you already, again, Andy Dalton, if Andy Dalton is the answer,

I need to know the question you asked. Second of all, Ocho, do you realize how far you would have set this organization back? Cause if you missed that, you missed on that guy. Yeah. Now you're probably not going to be in a position to draft another one. And if you do, then what, if you don't surround, if you draft another quarterback and you don't surround it with anything, the same thing's

going to happen to that quarterback that happened to this one, right? Just square one. And it's probably going to keep happening until they, they, they draft. Right. It's probably going to keep happening. And I right. It's probably going to keep happening. And I'm not, look, the way he treated Steve Wilkes after he turned that program around with Matt Ruhl and you didn't even give him a, I don't wish bad. I'm just like, my grandma used to say, boy, I don't wish bad on nobody, but I sure don't

wish good on them either. Yeah. So I'm not saying I wish bad, but I don't wish I don't wish prosperity either. Yeah. I just think he's handled some situations very poorly. I think Steve Wiltz deserves an opportunity to get that job. And hopefully another opportunity presents itself for Steve. But. That was a very that was a, I mean, he doesn't have patience.

I don't know how he thought he was going to be a great owner without patience. You got to have that. Oh, Joe, you got to have that's rule number one. That's rule number one in business in general, but get on in the team, being an entrepreneur, running a business. And now, now we talk about the NFL. Like you can't, you can't use money and buy your way into winning. It takes time. Yeah. It takes time. And then, you know, they, they show the situation. I think his ex is dating Tyrese Max. I think they like that's on his mind. You see what I said? Oh, Joe, you think so? You see if you keep, if you keep your stuff private,

if you keep your stuff private, if you keep your stuff private, you can break up in private. Yeah. If you date publicly, you will have to break up publicly. And then everybody goes start speculating. That's why you play in bad. You know, that may or may not be the case. Yeah. I mean, but I see guys, they have no girlfriend and play like crap.

Yeah. Guys be married and play terrible. I mean, we gotta stop automatically soon because somebody's playing bad. There's something going on in their lives that's leading them to play bad. Yeah. That's not always the case.

No, that can be the case. Have I seen it? Yes. Yeah, it can be a distraction. It can be a distraction, so. But I don't think they have played a factor. I'm assuming they probably been, they haven't been together for a while,

especially for her to be moving on like that in public. They- What you mean moving on? What am I supposed to do, wait? I mean, you know what I'm trying to say. I'm saying- I know what you're saying. Yeah.

I know what you're saying. It's been done. We just catching wind of because they, she just going in public now. She's not yours,. It just your turn. I mean, that's the thing. I mean, is there a time limit on Joe? You break up, you break over some, you break over somebody.

If there are the time limit in which you could go public with another person. No, no, I don't think it's the time limit. But I think for those that for those. Now you need to grovel. I need to know you hurt because if you if you ride away, oh, you ain't love me Forget about love forget about love if she moves on right away. She was already talking to that individual You know playing that see why y'all were still together. That's why the That's why the transition you're moving on was so easy because he for one. He was already mentally checked out anyway

And she moves on and moves on fast. That person was already in play anyway. And if you're smart, if you have a better understanding anyway, if she's willing to deal with you, why you with me, at some point as time goes on, then you're going to get the same treatment too. So it's a cycle. The cycle never ends. The cycle never ends.

My grandpa used to say, boy, if they cheat with you, they'll cheat on you. Yeah, right. Don't let that go over y'all head, chat. Right, right. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh you when they're not yours, they will do to you when they belong to you. And the cycle will continue to repeat itself over and over and over and over. No matter what. Man, oh, chill that. Hey, you say they do what they do for you. And then, you know, they knew.

Cause you say all of a sudden, woman start working out. Rappers say, boy, she get ready for somebody else to seal naked Boy hey, that's what you just looked at that trip like real yeah Well, hey, that's that's the wonderful thing in what we call life and one thing about human nature One thing about human nature human nature is undefeated. It is, Ocho. Undefeated. Undefeated. You can post as many quotes as you want.

You can say everything you want, man. And that would be, they'd be killing me with that, Ocho. And don't live by name, bit of it. They quit, they quit. God, God in my life. God child. What? Don't live by name bit of it. Yeah. They got a hand on the Bible dude beating her back in.

But she's God child. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That it. Hey, listen. Experience. Twenty years of experience. Nothing is going to get back. Nothing is going to fly. Bro, bro, bro, bro. Somebody say, man, that's not true. My old lady lady 17 years

when she was somebody I had I had on the side of again bro I can't say what he said I don't hear it's the goal now but he'd be okay he said it must be a nerd cuz he sure puts up in the chat quick. Hey, since you, since you think things so good. Yeah. As you see a phone real quick. Tell her, tell your old lady since she's so, she's so cool, right? Yeah.

Ask out the blue. Let her see your phone, see if she handed over to you real quick. Let me know how that go. Yeah. Everybody in the chat, fellas. If you got a girl, just ask out the blue, tell her hand you a phone and ask her to pass her real quick. Be quick.

Oh God, God first. Hey, oh, your mother to mother three God first. Yeah, you on your knees. All right. But you ain't praying. Yeah. You probably said, Oh Lord, he killed me. Yeah, thank you.

But Andre Johnson beating Coraline Finnegan has been recreated as a toy. Oh, Joe, you can we do we have it? Look at this, Joe. Yeah. Hey, listen, I saw it. I saw these early on Twitter. I'm not sure what this early on Twitter. I'm not sure what this is made of.

I don't know what this figurine is, but that is dope. It's live. That is. It's really, really live. I don't know if Andre, if Dre saw this, but I know he's probably gonna see it because he watches the show. Dre, you gotta get one of these, Dre.

You gotta get these. Hell, I wanna get one. And have Dre sign it. And have Dre sign it. You got, you got to get these. Hell, I wanna get one and have Dre. And have Dre decided. Mine will be, what you call them? Yeah, get Dre decided. Mine will be the one I crack back on Perry Phoenix. I had to get him.

I like that. I like that. Nah, nah bro, hey look, to each his own man. Ochoa and I ain't trying to, no, bro. Hey, look, to each his own, man. Oh, Joe and I are trying to start no problem, man. I know each is all now. Oh, Joe, yes, sir. Check this out.

A woman's calls out of calls out single successful men for not wanting to date single moms. This is what she tweeted. Oh, she says single successful men that don't date women with kids is so sassy to me. Baby, how you a grown man, but scared of some kids? No, I'm scared of your kids. How you allow some kids to let you miss out on a good woman?

If it was so good, the last dude would have kept you. If giving, if giving, you weak. You see how they try to use reverse psychology alone. She's trying to she's trying to guilt trip us. I mean, I know it's trying to. But I mean, I really can't say them because I only date women with kids. If you don't have that show choice, that's my choice. Ain't nobody guilt trip you into that.

So she can't be guilt tripping. So, I mean, obviously a lot of women, they think they're good. I mean, guilt trip you into that. So she can't be guilt tripping. So I mean, obviously, a lot of women, they think they're good. I mean, that's a great thing. It's always good to believe in yourself and have confidence in yourself that you are the catch. But you have to realize that at some point, reality has to set in that if you are who you thought you were, if you were as good as you thought you were, those that had opportunity to be with you, you would be kept. You would be kept and you would be put up. You're gonna talk about y'all sassy.

No, they just don't wanna deal with, well, clearly, when you met that guy, you didn't have no kids. Right. Or you met somebody before they gave you kids. And they didn't want you to end. Yeah. Sometimes people want their own collection of trophies. Yeah. or you met somebody before they gave you kids and they didn't want you then. Sometimes people want their own collection of trophies.

You can go buy a trophy. You could go buy a trophy fish, but a lot of times people wanna catch their own. I wanna hold a pole. I wanna really men, Ocho. I like that. I like that, see that's why I got you. I don't have no problem. See, that's why I don't have no, I don't have no problem.

See the problem that I have in like, like, like some women, like if I say I want a woman to be this high, I wanted to have this kind of complexion. I want to have, Oh, he like color. See that the man doesn't let him know that his sisters ain't no good. But women can say, I want a man over six foot tall. I want him to be successful. I want him to have X amount of dollars. I want him to be this way. Women can say they want this for a man. But the moment a man say he want this with a woman. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Listen, it's a one way street for them. All women have preferences on what they like. The men that they want to deal with have to check certain boxes. And when it comes to us, we can't have a preference. And if, and if the preference is not predicated towards what they look

like or what they dress like, then it's an issue. It's an, it's an issue. It's the way it is. But women all the time, Ocho, I want a man that makes six figures. I want a man this tall. But let me say I want a woman between the height of five, eight and six foot. I wanted to have long hair. I wanted to be light skin, whatever the case may be. I want to be this. I want to be that. Oh, you discriminate. You don't like this. You want to be there. Oh, you discriminate. You don't like this.

You don't like that. But y'all do that. But women get to choose like I want this man to be this. And it ain't no problem. But the moment a man says he want a woman to be that, that's what he's looking for. Oh, oh, but this is you also have to understand. Listen, you can want whatever you want. You could have whatever preferences

that you want to make believe in. But the chances of you getting everything and checking all those boxes are- Oh, you ain't gonna find everything, Ocho. At some point- No, you're not gonna find everything. Listen, a lot of women live in delusion. A lot of women live in delusion and not reality.

And that's okay. I want everyone, I want even men, even the fellas. I want everybody to get what their heart desires. I want that for them. I want everybody happy, but sometimes- And why you care? It's just not realistic on some time. Yeah.

Oh, you got a type. Yep, sure do Sure do and you ain't it So It's okay, yeah I I don't it doesn't bother me if I don't if i'm not I'm not everybody's cup of tea

or me neither me neither me neither you know somebody like I want somebody in their 50s and I'm in my 30s or I'm in my 40s okay fine I don't want somebody that don't like to do X Y Z okay fine but I know so me women can say oh Shannon that's why you single a woman can't pay so now I ask, just don't pass gas in front of me. Close the door when you go to the bathroom. But you can want, I want six foot tall. I want college educated. I want somebody between the ages of 30 and 35.

I want somebody to make six figures. I want somebody. You got seven things. I asked for two. And now that's why I'm single. And you know what's funny when you think about it too, and women, women that are in the chat, I really want you to have everything you want. I want you to have everything that your heart desires,

especially when it comes to men and whoever you want to make you happy. But the more things that you want, the more preferences that you want in a man, the more the pool of men that you had to choose from. They shrink, yeah. It shrinks significantly.

That make it seem like it's like 35 million men out here making six figures. Listen, you know social media makes it seem like. Gotta fake it down. Your options, social media makes it seem like your options are unlimited. But reality was set in some. It will. It will.

I want you to date. Look, I want you to date whatever you want because I damn sure am. Yeah. Hey, I'm hoping my daughter to be asleep. I got lucky. I got lucky. Hopefully my daughter sleeps.

She means to be trying to regulate. I say I'm the day, I'm the parent. Right, right, right, right, right, right. Tell my dad I need to meet anybody that you talk to, I need to meet him first. What? No, you don't. I thought you was off the market like Boston.

No. Okay. Who told you that? There ain't nobody tell you that. I mean, sure, but it sounded like it not too long ago. You know, you know. Hey, yeah, I got a simple philosophy. Yes, sir. Those that know won't tell. Right. Those that tell won't know.

Okay. Okay. I like that. I like that. Everybody talking. Don't nobody know nothing. If they knew so much about me, they know. I'm with you. But anyway. They know, they know. You know, I gotta work, I gotta work the Panthers, the Panthers' greatest game tomorrow.

What you doing? None, you know, I'm to work. I got to work the Panthers, the Panthers, Raiders game tomorrow. What you doing? Then, you know, I'm doing the stuff with EA, you know, the man. OK, yeah, yeah. So I get I get to be field side for as long as I want to. But, you know, I get to talk to the players. So I can't I can't wait to see Bryce Young tomorrow. I got to give the young bull, you know, a piece of my mind, especially when you question them, question themself.

I just want to make sure his head is in a good space I want to make sure his head in good space and I think him you hearing from me would be really dope It'd be dope. Just give me a little look. Pick me up. Yeah We have a little girl. We have a question yourself. I looked in the mirror. They are not please don't ever do that, man But don't ever do that, man. Man, I think the thing for me, Ocho, I just like being, let me get like 10 minutes on the sideline, speak to a couple of players. I need to go sit down.

I can't stand that long, man. I ain't worse than Ash, Ash be laying down. There ain't a place that we gonna go that Ash ain't gonna be laying down. Right. I was like, you comfortable? She done took the blanket off the couch, she sleeping. You comfortable?

Mm-hmm. The airport, she done got comfortable. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah, for sure. That's what I mean. If there's anywhere for me to lay down and go to sleep real quick, take me a little nap,

oh, it's going to get taken. Nah, I don't, I don't really like you too much. I don't like to sleep. I don't want nobody messing with me. Right. Cause I ain't, I ain't a pleasant person when I wake up. Yeah, you mean, you mean, you mean. As you're just shaking her head. I ain't a pleasant person when I wake up. So I don't be, don't play with me while I'm asleep. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liar's Poker.

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iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. ["East Coast Cab"] Now it's time for Q&A. East Coast Cab said, two people you don't bet against, Jesus Christ and Deon Sanders Man, that was unbelievable game man. I don't know we we could have spent like a whole hour Just talking about that game how good it was. What do you got next again?

Who does Colorado play next week? Who oh they play UCF in Boulder? Or they go to Florida? Okay, they go to central Florida. They go to Orlando. But that's down the street. I might go check that game out. I might go check that game out. Vivian Ekimi. But can the number of wins his team, Travis, affect his nomination? Yes. I think if they get the six or seven wins, they're going to win. But can the number of wins his team Travis affect his nomination?

Yes. I think if he can get, if they get the six or seven wins, hell, I mean, that happened. I think I'm trying to think the last, the lowest, the number of wins, the lowest viewers wins a team had was Paul horning. I think they had five and he won the Heisman. I think if he could get to seven, I think seven would be a cutoff because he's having such an unbelievable season. I think seven wins could, he could win it with seven. Yeah. But normally they want you to have nine, 10. What did Jayden

Daniels have last year? He had two losses. I thought unless you lost twice last year. Yeah, I think so. Oh, they lost once. I know they lost to Alabama. Yeah, that's the only one I remember. Didn't they lose to Florida State Openers? Or was that two years ago? They were 10 and three. They lost three games last year. Damn.

Yeah, see? I know that, because remember they lost, they lost over to last year. Yeah, see, I know that, cause remember they lost, they lost over the last year. Okay. The Florida State. Oh, Florida State was good last year. I don't know what they had wrong this year. Yeah. Hold on, did Florida State win today?

I don't know, did Florida State even play today? That's the question. They had a ban? Well, they've been on the bat the past three weeks, so. Well, they've been on the bat the past three weeks, so. Vivian also say to daughter, today is my daughter's 11th birthday. Happy birthday, Elania. Elania, Elaina, Elaina, I think it's Elaina. Man, they'd be spelling these names so so funky now.

But happy birthday. Happy 11th birthday, Elaina. Your mom wants to wish you a very, very happy birthday. Hopefully you enjoyed it. Um, have some friends, family, loved ones over. You got a chance to celebrate. Got great gifts. Happy birthday to you. Florida state B Cal Ocho. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Relaxing said, Shadour Sanders, QB1, Dallas Cowboys, Man Cover 26. How you gonna get there? And they just played DAC 60 million. I don't know, hey. Maybe, maybe. Brandon Holman said, how do you guys feel about the NC State player

spinning on the Clemson player? Do you think he will be disciplined? No, I'd handle that right there. That's the worst thing you can do to somebody's field. Yeah, that's the- You spin on the ground. So you telling me I'm the ground. Yeah.

That's what you telling me. Yeah. Boy. Hey, Ocho, soon as he did it. Wow Yeah right away He might have been getting ready to yell somebody name, but the man the big fight people boy, please Oh, you know, they they go they don't they don't take disciplinary actions most definitely Do you know how nasty that is? Very? very Yes, most definitely. Do you know how nasty that is? Very, very. Somebody else's spot.

Man, please. Out they mouth, hitting your face, hitting anywhere on your body at that, for that matter. I don't play that. I don't, look, don't even play that. There's certain things, especially, like I said, I don't know, like I said, I can't speak to people that were raised in California,

but that was raised in New York or something like that. But I'm talking about the South and being black. And don't play with me. I don't even play them type of games, Ocho. Yeah. Don't do that. Just say, let's just go ahead. Let's just go ahead and part ways when somebody gets seriously hurt.

Cause I'm gonna try, oh, spit it up. Just thinking about that. Yeah. But oh, but see, that's the thing I don't get, Ocho, that he mad about, don't spit on me, but he tear some booty cheeks up. Make it make sense, Ocho.

Who? Ocho, Zico Ocho Seiko Johnson. No, that's different though. See, listen, you take the spit and you use it, you know, like a lubricant. You hear me? I'm gonna see you, I'm gonna see you when I'm a tutorial so you can try it.

And now don't you see me nothing. I'm about to block you all. I'm about to block your number. I'm saying, see, you say it as if it's, you say it in a demeaning way, but if you see the visual representation of how it's done, then you'll get a better understanding on why you should be doing it.

So I have some tutorials, man, on some things that you can do to evolve in that area of your life. Yeah, but they should, the NC State player should be disciplined. He should have got his ass whipped on the field. Yeah. Right down the spot.

But yeah, yeah, don't do that. That's, that's, that's nasty. I don't even know what, what would in today's time on Joe, I don't even know what, what would possess somebody to even do that. So because whatever happens to you after that. Right. He deserved it. Because you know the quick, the first thing they gonna say,

well, he didn't have to do it like that. Yes, he did. Yeah, it's deserved. Because I don't, my grandma used to always say, boy, I might not stop him from doing it, but I'll break him with a habit. He might have had a habit of doing that, but I break that up.

Yeah. I break that, I get that up, I'll teach you. Real quick. Boy, that's nasty. Kipper, Norwood Jr. My question is, is the Ravens is will the Ravens defense show up tomorrow? Hey, or are they witness protection? I'm not a cowboy fan.

It's a good game. This is going to be this is going to be a very, very, very, very good game. And one of the problems that the Cowboys defense has, they still have no girth in that middle. Yeah, they got Derrick Henry coming straight downhill. So it could be a long day for the Cowboys. It can be a long day. One of the things for the Cowboys that they don't have to deal with, they're not dealing with a gun slinging type quarterback

where they throwing the ball 200 times a game. They gonna run the ball, methodically down the field, play action, they have a few plays at RPO. I got the Ravens. I think LeBar Jackson is gonna have a big day running the football. I got him going over a hundred. Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. Hell, I I got him going over a hundred. Yeah. Oh yeah, absolutely.

Hell, I got Derek Henry going over a hundred as well. And because the running game is gonna be successful, he's gonna have a great day passing the ball as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Lainey Ray, Ocho saw your, she said Ocho, saw your Ocho Predicto segment today.

Who y'all picking for the Texans Vikings, even though I already know the answer, Ravens Cowboys tomorrow? Yeah. Texans Vikings and you got Ravens Cowboys. Yeah, I think, I think Ocho Predicto, I actually had to pick, I picked the Texans to win. I picked the Texans. I like the Texans too. Yeah. I got the Texans in, I think the Texans to win. I think the Texas I like the Texas, too.

Yeah, I got to take this. I got to take this in the I got to take this in the Ravens. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, it's funny. What do you mean? The Ravens, I don't see the Ravens really starting on three, but I also don't see the Cowboys getting losing again like they did last week after what the Saints put on them.

I think I'm assuming I'd hope that they bounce back this week. I'd hope that they still want to mention a little offense. Oh Joe. Yeah, they could just the Cowboys a bit Cowboys are built. You mentioned they don't have the sides up front. Yeah, built to play with a lead. They're not built to be in there and catch and hold on stay on block. They're built to get a lead and turn Micah and D law and those guys.

Let them loose. Yeah. And if they can't do that, then it's a good problem. Cause if you go back and go back and look at the Cowboys teams that have beat them over the last four to five years, look at how they run the football on, go back and look at the Ravens when Lamar went in there and they ran for them to 300 yards, Cleveland ran for 300 yards. Arizona ran for 300 last week.

Go back and look at the games in which they've been looking at in the playoff game. The the Packers. Look at the year before the 49ers, when they lose, teams normally run the football on them because they can't get the lead and just pin their ears back because you have to throw, throw, throw to catch up. And so I I'm sure that's what, uh, John Harbaugh is telling his club guys.

Let's just make sure we don't fall behind. Let's just make sure. Let's just put our weight on them. We're the more physical of the team. We can run the ball better. Let's just impose our will and let's see what happens. So I like the Ravens and I like the Texans. Nate Harper said, Uncle Nocho, thank you for your prayers.

When my fiancee Ashley was in the hospital, she's finally coming, she's finally out and recovering. Today is our 10th anniversary of love being together. Can you give us another shout out? Love you guys. Hey, Nate, that's unbelievable. Thank you. Ashley, congratulations.

I'm glad you're out of the hospital. Hopefully you're wishing you a very, very speedy recovery. That's a great story, Nate. Y'all got 10 years down, another 25, 30, 40 more to go. So keep us updated. Ashley, like I said, Night down, another 25, 30, 40 more to go. So keep us updated. Ashley, like I said, Nightcap, Uncle Nocho, we're very, very excited that you're out of the hospital, feeling better, fast recovery,

and look forward to hearing from you guys soon down the road. Jason said, what's up, Uncle Nocho? I was wondering if y'all could give me a birthday shout out. Love this show, never stop doing what y'all doing. And Jason, thank you guys. Because there's people like you, Jason. You guys have supported us.

I remember the first show, I think we might've had a thousand people in the chat. For real? Yeah, we had a thousand people, Ocho. A thousand. And each week got better and better. Got better and better. got better and better, got better and better.

And then we kind of branched off. Lip, you made me start telling stories. You like, oh, what about this? And I started telling stories. And so we called the phrase, you come for the sports, but you go to stay for the stories. So, but man, Jason, thank you. Thanks to each and every one of our subs,

everybody that watches, that have told people about us. Man, so many people like, man, I love you and Ocho. And that means a lot when you hear people and you're like, you're missing us? I mean, it'd be the Asian community. Everywhere I go. Yeah, yeah. Everywhere you go.

There is no age, there is no age. There is no race nationality, whatever the case may be. It's women, it's men, it's Asian community, if the Hispanic community, it's obviously the our community, Ocho. And it just means a lot to see like, man, we're actually doing something that people people like. Well, people that we care about, like, there's some haters out there, we don't care about them anyway.

Aaron Owen said, what's up, Uncle Nocho? During the draft process, besides Bengals and Broncos, what team showed you guys the most interest? It's, Seattle? You was going to Seattle? They showed the most interest. Right. Um, but hell after you got passed, cause I, you know, after you got passed like the third round, hell, you didn't care where you went. I don't wear the Indy. I don't wear the Cincinnati. I don't

went anywhere. You just want to get drafted now. And then round three go back because back then the draft started on Sunday and it was 12 rounds. And so after you get to a certain point, Oh Joe, you just want to get drafted. You didn't care. You just want an opportunity to show that you can play. And, uh, that was it. And I was very fortunate to go to a team in the Broncos that believed in me.

And I wanted to repay them for their belief in me, had a quarterback that believed in me, um, we became very good friends. Um, he worked with me, had great patients with me. And, uh, I definitely don't think I would have had the career that I had. Had I gone somewhere else? Cause I don't know if a quarterback would have had the patients with me. I don't know if, if, you know, when Dan left, Dan started giving me opportunities, but Wade Phillips comes in and he hired Jim fossil, red,

Jim fossil soul, and he kind of built the office around me and my skillset. So a lot of things have to go well for you to be successful. And I was very, very fortunate to have people that believed in me and helped me in my success. But that was, that was great. that believed in me and helped me and my success but that was that was great. Oh I gotta say this again don't you. Colorado Buffaloes win! Colorado Buffalo wins 38-31 in dramatic fashion. Chidora Sanders throws a hail Mary that is caught with no time on the clock.

They add the PAT, they go into overtime, they get, uh, the buff, uh, Baylor wins the toss, they defer, see you go down the field, they score and they, and, uh, Travis Hunter forces a turnover. The ball is fumbled out of the end zone and the C.U. Buffalo's win. And they're now three and one three one right. Three and one. They play UFC, UCF, University of Central Florida,

with a chance to go to four and one. So I'm very excited for the Buffalo's coach, Prime Shador, Trav, all the guys you played, unbelievable. Shadour stood in there, took eight sacks, a lot of hits, a lot of pressures, but he was unflinching. And he was able to do what he's supposed to do, which is gonna go a long way.

I think that's really, really impressed the scouts because everybody knows that when you've got a clean pocket, hell, everybody can pick you apart. But when things don't go well, when you, when you've been sacked eight times, when you've been hit another seven, eight times, when you've been pressured more times, but still be able to look down the barrel. That's unbelievable. That was a great performance. And again,

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