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the WBC stripped Bud Crawford for not paying sanctioning bodies. He won the title. She up? Okay, hold on. We know. What happened? Bud, it goes off on the WBC. Crawford says all the sanctioned

is accepted what he paid them and he's not paying $300,000 to in a sanctioning fee to the WBC. The WBC says he owes. According to the WBC, Crawford allegedly earned $50 million for that fight. Appreciating the magnitude of the event, the WBC modified its rule to limit the boxers' bout fee to 0.6%. Sanctioning fee instead of the typical 3%, the WBC rules, regulations require. The WBC was going to allocate 75% of the Crawford boxing bout to the Jose Suleiman Boxers Fund, which goes to go to fighters that, you know,

that's down in their luck, this, you know, what the case may be. Yeah. With the WBC had no choice, but the act considering champion Crawford had received multiple, I received ample notifications and multiple opportunities to address and resolve the situation. The WBC said now, uh, on the line between Christian Mabili.

Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's the one we saw. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He knocked that, uh, Then he just knocked out somebody recently. I can't, I can remember the dude,

remember he was fighting, they were throwing them haymakers. Yeah. And it was a draw, he had to draw the last fight. That was the one before Bud. Right. The black dude, the African dude. Well, I think I know you're talking about. Yeah.

Yeah. And Hamas, Cherise, in a mandatory bout. Damn, man. But I, and Bud responded too. Bud responded. He talked about, he talked about, He talked about all the, all the other title holders, you know, WBO, ID. They accepted what he gave him.

Yeah, he said everybody accepted the same amount of money after those fights. And for some reason, regardless of what was written, regards to what you just read, they wanted more for him to be able to attain and hold on to the WBC bill. And he was like, no, I'm not paying more. And then they want an apology of some sort. And I mean, it's a mess, but I mean, I understand it. I can see it from Crawford's standpoint in a sense. Obviously, something is wrong with it and he doesn't see fit.

And for him to go off the way he did, which is uncharacteristic of him, a very uncharacteristic for him. So, I mean, obviously, I have no choice but to be on his side because this is something that he wouldn't do. Yeah. You got to pay the box? No, you got to pay. What you got to pay? Hey, Joe, them bells calls, Joe. Hey, you got to pay, you got to pay them bills.

I ain't paying for no trophy. Yeah, Joe, you got to pay, you got to pay the money to keep the belts. Hold on. Hold on, so, because I seen him when Boy won, he went back and gave dude. He went back and gave, uh, he gave, because those, he's like, they're going to see the new ones. Yeah. They make new belts. But when they make new belts, but when they got to pay for all of them new belts.

Yeah, you got to pay for all the new belts. Yeah, you got to pay for the bills, boy, yeah. Yeah, when you see fighters coming to the ring, you got to pay a sanction and fee for them bills, Joe, to keep them. Yeah. And if you don't pay the feed, then they take them. They'll take it from you. You don't fight them mandatory, they'll take the belt from you.

If you don't pay the sanctioning feed, they'll take them from you. Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, listen, that's the, that's the, the game has always been that way. The game has always been that way, but he just didn't see. The game has always been funny style. To be honest with you. It's funny, you know, the one putting their life on the line and getting in the ring,

the one put going in the camp, doing the work three months out of the year, and I, listen, it's just, it's boxing. It's the way it's always been. I just, I guess he just didn't see fit to pay the amount that they wanted. When everyone else agreed to the amount he paid for the other, the other fees he's paid, he just, he just wasn't willing to do so. It's tough, man. look, bus and man, look here,

I ain't give y'all no more money. I'm cool. Right. And another thing. Canello, you want a rematch? I want a hundred million.

I want a hundred million. I will be the A side this time around. Okay. Listen, he's the A side. Joe, he's the A side from now on. Yeah.

I mean, that's, but I ain't fight but one more time, I mean, because where can he make money? I mean, at that point time, you make $100 million.

It's hard to go back down to make $10. Two more. two more because the fact he can I say I mean honestly I'm not sure who's out there for him to fight now maybe a rematch with Canelo

and I think a fight that everyone wants to see and the fact that he gets to command how much he makes I say maybe boots after boots at the boots hey listen early 2026 when boots beat Virgil Ortiz that people think and actually hang

with that styles win fights Joe you know styles when fights Virgil Ortiz is a phenomenal boxer he's a phenomenal fighter but boot style nullifies and everything becomes nulling void once he gets in that ring with boots and I can't wait I can't wait

to that contract gets done you don't people that actually see you think you saying boots ready for Crawford no I said I said there's something that everyone wants to see that that's all I say I say it's something that I don't think

I don't think booths Crawford can command the pay that he would get. The only fight the other than Canelo would probably be Benavides. No, you're trying to get the man killed. I'm just saying what's going to command the $100 million purse.

Oh, who's going to command no $100 million purse, Ocho? Wait a minute, hold on, hold on. If once, let's say, let's say, if he does fight Canello again, right? Yes. And he wins a rematch, which he will do

because there's nothing Canello can do that can improve that much better and that's a short amount of time where you would be bud crawford there's nothing you can do there's nothing you can do so i'm just saying with that being with that being said he is able to command that kind of money turkey ali has made boxing great again turkey ali would want to see that fight he would want to see a bud in a goddamn boots fight and if if bud says i want a hundred million to because it's almost like um it's high risk low reward but turkey would make sure you sure the purse will be there where you know what i'm you can take that risk now because here's

the money for it i don't i don't me personally i don't think i don't think turkey it would put up a hundred million dollar purse to see boots and uh bud uh but i do think he put up a hundred million dollar purse for ben a beat ed's bud uh yeah that's a big ass walks around no telling what ben a video walks around as but i'm saying now would i take that fight look i don't think at this point in time bud to really have anything else to prove really doesn't. I'll take this rematch with Canello. Canelo. Get my $100 million, and I'm out.

Because if you can't, he made $150 million the last two fights, plus what he made against Spence, probably made $10, $12 against that fight. If he can't live off there, let's just say, hey, he can't live off there, don't you? You know, I if I'm, I don't know. Okay, but

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Listen, I am the belt. Let's just get that straight. And one, for two, it's Alicia, y'all. Alicia, okay. Not Alicia, please, thank you. Alicia. Yes. I have a question.

Before we've been start, this question for you, for you, obviously, with your knowledge in knowing boxing, and right now I see the way boxing is going right now. Boxing is now great again. What do you think at some point in time before Crawford hangs the gloves up, a fight between Crawford and Boots? Just in general, what do you think? Would that not be a great fight? I think that would be a great fight. I think you have two great athletes, and you know anything with someone who has an athletic ability, we can see really who's going to have a better game playing when it comes to boxing, right?

So I like that fight. See, I told you, Aunt. I like that fight. Do you believe they put up the, because for me, I told Ocho, I think the big, look, fight Canello again, try to get $100 million.

But for another $100 million fight, it's going to have to be someone that they really feel that Crawford could lose. That's why Turkey put up the $100 million to fight Canelo. And that would be Benavides. No. And maybe tell him Benavides, two goddamn big, man.

They said that about Canelo. Yeah. I mean... It's different. But it is a little different. I do have to agree with that. It is slightly different with Benavitas and the Canelo. Just in regards to skill and when we think about selling a fight.

Yeah. So... You recently defended your unified super featherweight titles against Jennifer Miranda in July 25. you described that performance as a B-plus. Now you got Layla, a boot-in, to execute better. So what didn't you like about the fight that you previously had? What I didn't like about it is that I hold a very high standard for myself as an athlete

as a fighter. And, you know, I've had a long layoff up until that point. And so I know what I require of self. And again, a B-plus is not bad, but I know what I'm better. better at doing. So it's always a learning lesson and it's always an opportunity to go back and do what I do best. And that's to study. That's to be better. That's to be sharper and stronger and whatever adjustments I need to make come December 19th. You know, it's funny is I watched the last fight. And the fact that you gave it, you gave yourself a B plus is it's funny because

when I, the eye test for me actually watching you dominate that fight, whether it be inside the pocket fighting from distance you control the goddamn fight so i'm i'm curious how do you improve on what i just saw when you fought last time when they damn it looked perfect to me oh listen there there's so much more improvement and it's just really the you know styles make fights we know that and miranda was a little awkward style right so i'm having to make adjustments as i go and i just know when you can be aggressive but strategic and how you how you move if you can double up on the jab but more on the faints. There's just a bigger, and guess what?

I'm fighting three minutes this next go around, so I have an extra minute to really digging that bag. Like, I'm not coming with a small bag, y'all. I'm coming with a burkin double bag. The skills is deep, okay? Yeah. So you got, it's going to be so you mentioned that, that's where I was going next.

You're like fighting under the men's rule where you got 12, three-minute rounds, correct? Correct, yes. So 12 rounds, three minutes. This is a standard for men's body. They asked me, Alicia, do you want to do it? I said, bet, let's do it. I'm all for accepting a challenge.

And, again, the fact that I have an extra minute to really dig in my bag of tools, y'all, listen, y'all going to see, y'all going to be glued to the TV. Yeah. And, you know what, the fact that you're doing three minutes now, obviously 12 rounds, does that change the way you prepare as far as camp is concerned? Do you train a different way now? Yeah, I, listen, the training has always been. aggressive. But for this one, it's more strategic, right? And I've been in camp, y'all, for 12 weeks. We know that the fight had got postponed. So I've been in the gym. So there's nothing but work after work and always working on the next thing. And I'm ready.

Okay. That's funny. I've got one more question. How do you, how do you, what's the word I'm looking for? How do you, you train to a point where you don't burn yourself? out. We don't over-trained to make sure that when you do fight, you're still fresh, you're sharp and you polish without overtraining while you're in camping, doing too much. Yeah, I think it's important to know who you are as a fighter. Mentally, it could be a little draining. So if I go in the gym, I say, Derek, you know, I'm having a little mental day because, you know, we've been doing this thing. Okay, we may do some film study. We may just work on

the bag. We may just do myths. And I think it's important to find that balance because you're going to need that come fight week and come the night of the fight. So I definitely pay attention to how I'm feeling physically. I'm in there all day, every day, but it's just more the mental aspect for me. Yeah. Alicia, your conditioning is pretty elite, right? What's a part of your training or nutrition that you enjoy doing that people will probably be shocked and know? y'all got to know i i stay in the gym because i like to stay in the gym so that's one thing like i like to stay fit fitness is what i do and i have a chef for this camp so i'm always making sure that i'm eating the right foods um you know we it's performance base y'all so if i get a better

advantage on how i eat um the water i'm drinking every day and what i'm putting into my body i'm i want to have the best performance so i'm making sure that you know everything is a lot and I'm staying I'm staying it's a lifestyle I do this like absolutely because you said go ahead Joe go ahead finish up your question now like even on days even when you know you don't have a fight coming up in the next six to eight months you know what I mean is your regimen still pretty strict do you still train pretty hard like what's the mindset with that yeah for me it's always still be in the gym it's to stay accurate you all know you know as athletes this is what we've done our whole life so I can't sit still you know and so I always make sure I'm in shape I'm always

doing something if that's not me working out it's working somebody out but I'm always staying ready like just physically this is a I think this is one of the thing that really helped Floyd Mayweather because Floyd was probably five to seven pounds away from his fighting weight so you're not getting too far away from your actual fighting weight so you don't have to kill yourself in those eight 10 12 weeks that you're in right to try to make you're not trying to cut 30, 40 pounds. Not at all. You're going to try to cut, what, 10, 12 pounds?

Listen, y'all, I'm fasting for a day and dropping two pounds, and dropping two pounds. For real. That's it. I stay within 10 pounds. I'm 140 right now. If I eat a good meal, 143, back down to 140. So, honestly, it's, I don't kill myself. I enjoy fight week.

I'm smiling. I get to eat. And it's a joyful weight cut, to say the least. Right. You know, I have a question about this week, the fight, some of the fights coming up this week. What do you think and who do you have in the Pitbull, Lamont Roads fight? I love that fight. I like that fight because, one, they're both, we know Pitbull's aggressive.

He's coming forward, but he's been neutralized already. So I want to see how discipline can Lamont be for 12 rounds straight to use his jab to use his skill. I think he has better skill than Pitbull. So if he can utilize his jab, his movements like we saw, with him and Javante and how Pitbull has already kind of exposed himself, I think we see a winner, and that's Lamont. But, again, credit to Pitbull because he don't stop. So, you know, he's hungry just as much.

You know, fighters who get a loss, they come back even hungrier. So, again, I'm looking forward to that fight. You have to describe yourself as both a beast, a beast in the ring and a beauty outside the ring. I'm looking at your, you know, aesthetically. I'm like, why did you decide to fight? What made you push you in this of all, maybe basketball, maybe tennis, maybe track and field where you can be glamorized? I'm like, boxing?

Listen. Do you get punched in the face? I like it. It's so funny. To be a beauty and a beast is to be a warrior, to fight for everything that I've been fighting for as a young girl. And to be a woman to walk with. favor and presence and purpose and it's so important that you can find this balance it's a duality

right and the best part i don't i don't have to choose y'all i embody both and so when i'm hitting you like a welterweight and dropping you and doing what i got to do yeah meek meek and i'm stepping outside of the ring and i'm a model i you know do my hair my makeup put a dress on the heels the heels Listen, it's a duality, and I love to embody both, and I love that I can be a fighter and fight for the things that I love and to really showcase what it is to be that beauty and that beast. You know, when you talk about being that beauty and that beast and fighting for the things you love, something that you've done since you were young, obviously, I'm sure maybe as a child growing up, you always wanted to be a fighter or a boxer.

How long do you see yourself doing this? Listen, baby, it's embedded, okay, for one. And two, I see myself doing until I can't no more. It's instilled. It's been instilled. And this is a gift that the Lord has blessed me with. So it's my duty to make sure that I give it my all in the time to be an active athlete and to be an active woman fighter. To be on the biggest stage come December 19th is a dream.

And it's really showcasing how two worlds can coexist and how men and women. men, it's not a comparison, it's a standard to have greatness, to be great. And I get to show that. What advice would you give young girls

that you wish someone had given you when you was younger? What advice would you get young ladies? Yeah, I think it's important to give a young woman advice to know what it is to stand in power, what it is to trust your power what it is to be still and to follow through when things get hard when things don't seem to go

your way i think it's important to to really mentor the same way i was poured into into somebody else because it really goes a long way life is hard y'all and and also to be a woman in a space that you may not even know who you are i didn't people have identity issues you know you need to know who you are so to really encourage those to know who they are to know themselves to to to be able to love them like loving yourself goes a long way knowing who you are for sure you're a fighter you mentioned your model outside of that is there anything do you want to do media is there anything that you do outside of those two things or anything that you would like to do outside of those two things listen the the road is open for whatever is ahead I love media

I love talking I think it's important to to be in different spaces y'all know we got one of the greatest games tomorrow the Cowboys versus the Lions okay I'm really high Cowboys or a Lions fan? Listen, I got to give it to you like this. Okay, the Eagles, I love that they have the champion mindset, and they did that, showed that. But also, the Cowboys done showed up in these last two games. So I'm like, what are we doing?

What are we doing? What are we doing? Wait, wait, wait, wait, a question. Are you a Cowboys fan? Yes or no, because I'm going to hit this power. Yes, yes, I'm a Cowboys fan. I'm in Dallas, y'all. Of course, I'm a Cowboys fan.

Oh, man. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm a fan. I'm a fan of the winner's team. I'm a fan. I'm a fan when people win, baby. I know. Baby, you can't do that.

Who are you a fan of before they were winning? Like, who is your team? Oh, Joe, she doesn't win with them winning. Listen, I was, I still am a Lions fan. When I lived in Detroit, I seen the Lions go from here to here to be the underdog to being the top dog and really showing out every game. I'm like, yo, that's the Lions. That's that Detroit hunger that they got, right? And then, you know, I left Detroit.

I came to Dallas and, you know, the atmosphere of being in Dallas and what the Cowboys represent, I think it still shows just the grit that they still want to be that team like they were years ago, right? Yeah. Wait, Abe, you can't switch allegiance like that just because you relocated somewhere else now. I know that, listen, everybody's like, you need to pick a side. I said, I understand that, but, you know, I picked the winner's side. You know, I'm a, I'm not the real.

That ain't no picking on with that front running. That's not fair. Ocho, boy, y'all got to take them haters jackets out. No, no, no. Hey, Joe, I'm not hating. I'm just saying. What she said? What she said?

Oto, what you wanted to do? That's what you're going for. That's what you're going to. That's what you want. So, Alicia, where are you originally from? I'm from Fremont, Ohio. which is So you should be a

Browns or a Bengals fan I'm definitely listen I'm definitely a Michigan fan Charles Woodson's from my hometown so it kind of falls into it kind of falls into that I know I'm all over the place

but that's okay because I can't be I can be I can be I come from listen y'all I come from a small country town in Ohio and so being in a city like

Michigan you know I always been a Michigan fan so you know I'm like you know, I like this. You know, a high state. I mean, shout out to Dan, they just won. I get that, but, you know. She's that type.

You know what? She's going to show up wanting one team to win. The other team's going first. Yeah, I'll put that team right there. Yeah, let's go. Nah, nah, I'm going to stick to my side. I'm going to stick to my side. Okay.

You know what? To go back to boxing, I have one more. Obviously, Ava, you know how much I love boxing. Obviously, that's why I keep asking these goddamn question. And I don't mean to put the, I don't mean to put the carers before the horse. But December 19, I already know what it's going to look like. like. I already know what you're going to do. I understand your style. I've seen the young lady that you're fighting. I don't mean to put the goddamn character for the horse. But if you were

to want to fight someone else, if you were to have a name that you want to see after this victory, because I'm telling you what's going to happen December 19th. Is there anybody out there that you want to fight after this one? I would love to fight Katie Taylor. Oh, okay. I would love to fight Katie Taylor. Katie Taylor is a pedigree of a fighter. No, let me not say that of a boxer And because I have skills like a boxer You will see a box that's so high class

And so high level that you will appreciate You would think you wouldn't even say two women are fighting You would just enjoy this just the boxing aspect right And I think, you know, Katie has done a lot for the sport Has changed the game and I would love a fight with her Those fights with Sariano was unbelievable I know They went down to the wire.

I thought the first fight, I thought she had it out of there. But, hey, Taylor Doug D. She dug deep. He dug deep. And I respect that. A couple of more boxing questions. You saw it with the WBC stripped bud of the title because he wouldn't pay the sanctioning fees.

You got stripped to your title because, you know, they like, they're, nah, the women fighting, you know, 12, you know, 12 rounds at three minutes each. Nah, we're not a part of that. So, so are you okay with this? you know like like anything we make the belt the belt don't make us come on and it's important that you know we we work very hard to get to a space where we can say we're undisputed and we are a world champion but it does not um it will not take away from the fact that you can't say i did that and again you know boxing is is a freelance for it y'all boxing is is a wow wow that still is and so it's just one of those things you got to make sure that you are going to

going to be straight with yourself because nobody else is going to take care of you like you're going to take care of yourself so that's what that looks like and you know I had the opportunity to keep my belt but I said you know what no I'm going to I'm going to accept this challenge I'm going to do this 12 rounds three minutes and make history and that's exactly what I'm doing I like it I like the Jake Paul Anthony Joshua if this is on the up and up do you give Jake Paul a realistic chance Anthony Joshie is a super heavy weight. He won the gold medal. We know he got he got dynamite in that right hand. He's a

ginormous of 6-4, 245, 250. I think if I think a promoter said that he's like 265, so he's going to have to share some weight right now. Tell us what you think. Give us the fighters approach. What are you thinking about this fight? Yeah, so listen, my eye testing a lot of things, all right? And for real, real.

You know, listen, this is so cliche to say, but any fighter has a chance, right? We've seen Jake Paul knock people out and we've seen Anthony Joshua knock people out. They both have a punching chance, right? Who is going to have a better game plan? That's the question, right? You have a height difference. You have a weight difference. But, again, I have to give credit what credits do.

Jake has been able to train with some quality trainers from Detroit that I know. And he's been able to progress in a way that a lot of people haven't, that people still don't believe in. So this is an opportunity for Jake to really showcase some real skill and a real game plan to be Anthony Joshua. But then on the other hand, I respect Anthony Joshua, who is also a heavyweight champion, who is also saying, you know what, you're really playing it crazy. I'm about to show you what real boxing is about, right? Because there's still this, is it real, is it not? It's real. we saw we saw we saw Jake Paul knock out people that weren't boxers the one boxer that he

fought he did not beat which was Tyson Fury's Tommy Fury now this is a real professional prize fighting boxer a heavyweight champion this is this is different than knocking out people that came from the NBA or came from MMA or things of that nature yeah the actual prize fighter that still that still fights actively this is true but you know one thing about the when you believe in yourself when you see no other way but when that's that's that's that's the mentality that jake has and i think he's just shown that every time he's having the ring regardless of who it is i'm here i did this i'm about to show you all again and i and i like you know the mentality matters what what you have to know you're going to go in there when even if it's

delusion i don't know yeah yep you know and one last boxing question is my last question and it's more of a statement and in and a question for you obviously unc and joe I'm letting y'all know ahead of time. Alicia, there's another really good fight. Two of the greatest fighters of all time that are going to be fighting soon. Three minute, 12 rounds. Andre Ward.

Andre Ward is coming back out of retirement. He's going to fight me sometime in 2026. Okay. With your expertise and you knowing how much I love and how long I've been training, what round you think I'm going to knock Andre Ward ass out next year? Keep it a hundred. Is all going 12 rounds?

Yeah. Hell, yeah. Okay. Hopefully four. Oh, so you want me to put him out in four? Yeah, I don't want you to go. I don't want you to get in that deep water. Yeah, you know, I can swim, huh?

After round seven, tell him, Alicia. After that round seven, you start getting into deep waters. Listen, we're going to have to see how them legs are. I will say this, though, Ocho. You got a great stance, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got the fundamentals. I'm not going to take that away.

So I think when you can learn to, you know, use that back leg a little more. You want to press all that thing. You know, the power. You may have a puncher's chance. Oh, that's me. That's me. That's me. For real, for real.

Yeah. Well, good luck on the night, team, Alicia. Thank you for joining us. We really appreciate you taking time out to stop by the nightcap. I'm sure I chat really appreciate you stopping by. Best of luck. And when you win the, I don't know if she got a belt, if she got a belt, take that belt, come back and show it to us because we ain't see no belts tonight.

Listen, I got all the belts, sir. like I said I got all the belts I am the belt but yes you will see thank you very much I appreciate your time good luck and we'll see you down the road yeah Alicia Baumgardner joining us tonight she's fighting on the 19th make sure you check that fight hey what's up everybody Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm bucky Brooks if you love breaking down football from every angle you're in the right place every week on move the six Bucky Brooks and I dive deep into the game from the X's and O's to the front office moves shaping the league. We kick things off with Brian Baudinger, breaking out what really went down on Sunday.

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Shot Ready, available now. Hey, hey Joe. What's up? Hey, I'm gonna beat the shit out of Andre Wood, boy, I hope you, hey, Dre, I hope you see this, Dre. You gotta get past Depot first. I love you like a brother, but Boy, it's going down, boy. Hey, boy, you're writing a lot of checks, Ocho.

Huh? You're writing a lot of checks. It's one thing about my checks. They're going to bounce. I know. Hey, guys, check this out. O'Dell Beckham tweeted, presumably, I guess it said us. Boy, you can't say nothing in the world nowadays.

That's why I've been in my own lane, my own world, and put it the way. People love to take ish out of context to rationalize a statement in their own head that makes sense to them. What a world. Video came out today of Odell selling game worn chrome heart cleats for 50K. Yeah, A, um, remember, remember when I, um, you were telling me the story, Unk? And I said, I thought, I thought he was given, um, perspective and context on how difficult it is to, to be able to manage money. I didn't, I didn't really think he was talking about himself.

No, but, Ocho, if you got, Ocho, what's difficult about managing 60 million You're liquid. Hold on. Well, what's difficult? The number, the percentage of athletes, NBA, NFL, MLB is damn than 90% now. So I mean, it's difficult. That's why I thought I thought. Because the first thing, when he said it and gave context and perspective on how difficult it is, I thought he was meaning in general, not specifically talking about himself. That's all. But go ahead. I get what he's saying. Yes, sir. You're spending, first of all, spending four million dollars. and in yearly expenses. Yes, sir. Your home, family home, X, Y, and Z. Well, first of all, to spend that, you need to make at least $10 million. Right.

Because you, depending on where you are, now if you're in a state that takes 50%, now if you're in Las Vegas, you in Nevada, you in Texas, you in Florida. I think Ohio has no state income tax. I think Arizona is like 2%. So if you're in one of those states, so it's going to take about $10 million

to do that to have that kind of lifestyle. Right. Now, now what happens is Ocho, is that you still try to maintain that lifestyle, Joe, when you're not bringing in $10 million and you're still spending that money kind of money going out. That's why they go out. That's why you see guys go belly up, Ocho,

is that you don't change your spending habits. It's the same way, if you're an athlete, you eat whatever you want, you work out. Now all of a sudden you're not an athlete and you still eat whatever you want. Now all of a sudden, D.Bs look like D. lineman. That's what happens with money. Hey, think about what you just saying,

Hey, Joe, think about what you just said, right? Think about what I just said real quick, right? Is you live in a lifestyle when the money's coming in fast. Right. You become accustomed to that lifestyle. That lifestyle actually becomes your image and it becomes an identity.

Yeah. So once you stop playing the transition to be able to stop and have the discipline to be able to cut it off to become a minimalist almost in a sense, it's almost impossible. It's hard. Because you always want to maintain

that lifestyle and that image. Because what's the first thing everybody that you're trying to goddamn impress no say? Oh, he ain't got it to the most. Oh, he broke. And the first time, Ocho, you ain't got a new car. Man, hey, he must be doing bad. Yeah, he's doing bad.

Right. You know, hey, you used to see here with a new whip every other, yeah. Hey, hey, Joe, Hey, Joe and Uncle, one thing about it, boy, I learned early. I learned early. I did not want to try to keep up with the Joneses. I did not want to keep, hey, Joe, and Joe, I did it. when I was making the bulk of my money, Joe.

Joe, I came in the NFL already cheap as hell. I didn't care about people making fun of me. I didn't care about certain types of women not one to date me because they know, yeah, he ain't going to be paying nothing. He's not, you know, you ain't getting nothing out of it. That's okay. But I understand, I understand dealing with you, it's nothing but a liability anyway.

Right. You know, I got the table and the legs you got, ain't going to hold it up. Hello. Hello. You know, so you understand that you play the game, Joe. It's all a game. And the better you learn to play the game,

the longer you will be able to be without. It's okay. But so many of us, so many of us are so caught up and looking like we fucking got it. Like I don't everybody want to be rich. Everybody want to look like they like shit. No, that's not reality.

Social media has us fooled. It has all of us fools. They ain't got me fool. They ain't got me fool. be fool because I know that well I do okay and I ain't living like that no I ain't got it like that right you know what's scary Joe Joe this this is scary part and this is this is for men and women when it comes to the people that try to maintain that lifestyle and you know they don't make the kind of money to continue that lifestyle especially if you don't play sports if you don't

play sports and you and all this flashy shit that means you're willing to do anything anything to maintain that image. That in itself is dangerous, Joe. Yeah. If you leave the sport and you get you a gig and you're making money like Stephen A. You're making money like Strayhan.

You're making money like Tony Romo. You're making money like Tom Brady. Yeah. Take off. Wait, hold on. Hold on. Now what you're not going to do is I ain't going to me,

I don't mean to put the people in our business, but if you're making money like Uncle Ocho, man, shit. Hey, listen, hey, boy. Hey, okay, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm going to set everybody up, everybody good, mom, good, sister good, everybody good. Listen, listen, I'm going to say this one more time. I guess, I see them numbers at the end of each month.

Yeah, just, just add us to that goddamn equation. I'm going to tell you what my grandma always told me. Huh? We do okay. Hey, speaking into existence. Hello. Huh? We do okay, Ocho.

Yeah. We do okay. Hey, hey, well, you say, okay. Okay, add three more wires to it. Okay. Ocho, I saw a guy today. I read a quote. Yes, sir.

The guy was basically said, he says, as you become more famous and you become more well off, relationships become more transactional. Understand that. Understand that. I'm learning that. Do me a favor. Do me a favor. Just in case the chat didn't hit you, because I got one for you.

Say it one more time. Say it one more time. Make sure the chat hit you. The more famous you become and the more well-up you become, the relationships become more transactional. Y'all know what transactional is. Yes. I agree.

I agree. Let me dive a little deep before you real quick, Uncle Joe. Even if you're not wealthy, even if you're not making millions, even if you're making $100,000, or even if you're a thousandaire, you know, you get paid every two weeks, the individual that you're dealing with is still dealing with you based on the ability for you to provide and give them stability in a sense of peace always always so it's still aligned those those same that same quote and analogy that unc used are still aligns regardless of how much you make based on your partner ask your partner and tell

it to be truthful if you lost the opportunity to provide if she'll still be there ask your partner if you being able to make things convenient and the opportunity dealing with you then present itself in a good manner if she would still be there and tell her to be honest with you and you know a lot of women to say oh I don't deal with nobody for no money

it ain't it ain't about that like come on now let's stop and the funny thing about it is you're always paying for who you're dealing with and the only thing this is the only thing Chad I want you to do me a small

all favor go to my Twitter and read my bio now there's a joke at the beginning but i tell the truth towards the end and i'm gonna just leave it just go to my Twitter and read my bio and the truth is sitting right there no matter what they try to tell you that's what it all comes down to no matter what they say yeah but i just think the thing is look a hundred million dollar contract i think everybody understands a hundred million nobody's getting all hundred million of that you've got to pay you got to pay federal income tax i don't give a damn what state you live in you've got to pay federal income tax and you have something called a jock tax if you're a professional athlete and you go to certain states you got to pay for the money that you earn there if you go to certain states

and you work you have to pay money that you earn in that state yeah i think everybody is nobody is under the assumption anymore that when they see a hundred million somebody actually got 100 million but to get 60 to get basically if you like I said you live in a tax free state and you only got to pay 30 30 let's just say on the high end you're paying 37 percent federal income tax that means of a million dollars you get 637000 you get 630,000 so if you bring home if you got 60 million liquid theoretically Ocho you put you put that in a thing a fund you put that in a fund you're going to get five to eight percent there'll be some years you get 10 12

percent. Yeah. So even if you're just getting five percent on 60 million, that's three million dollars a year. Man, if you can't live off three million dollars a year, you got issues. Yeah, we intro. I'm not going to say like not like a Jay Z or somebody, they got full time security and they got all these shelves and they got all these people. Obviously it requires more than that. But I'm saying for the average person. Yeah. Like myself, Joe, you. Yeah. I mean, man, if you came. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Listen, I'm not average. I'm extraordinary. Now, I'm saying, I'm cheap as hell. No, I'm just bullish. I'm just bullish. But I'm saying people like us because the

average person is not going to be in a situation to make that kind of money. Right. I'm not talking about, look, if you got, if you make, if you make a million dollars a year, unless you got extraordinary expenses, that you should, you should be good. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Get you a nice little, get your nice little house payment, say, you know, five, somewhere between five and seven to five hundred a month. Yeah. Get you a nice little. Get you a nice little house payment. Get you. Get you nice car you and your wife get a nice car she got one you got one kid got probably if you make that kind of money oh Joe it's hard you're gonna probably be sending your kids to private school it just is what it is there

are very few people that make a million dollars a year and the kids go to public school I'm just I'm just being honest with you now I know everybody saying I send my kid it's easy for you to say that when you're not in that situation but most people that make that kind of money the kids go to private school yeah and what we were trying to do we didn't say it was We were just trying to say how people go belly up. Yeah. Because when you have kids, multiple kids,

and you live in certain states and you pay $5,000, $10,000, $20,000 per child, you got three kids. If you got, if you're paying that kind of money for the kids, guess what else you pay it for? Yeah. Private schools cost you somewhere between $10,000 and $30,000 a year. So now compound that. Yeah.

So you're paying $100,000 a year. Ooh. A hundred thousand. Yeah. No, you're paying $100,000. Yeah. So if you pay it 20, 2020, that's $60,000 a month times 18 years. A plus another, plus let's just say, oh, children, you got three kids and they go to private school.

And that's another $20,000. So that's another $60,000 a year times 18. Well, they're not going to stay the same because private schools go up every year. So it might start out at 20. And by the time they get to be seniors, that's probably be 30, 35. So we're just trying to explain to people how it happens. Is that, that's why they say, hey, get you one. If I could do it over again, I'd have all my kids from one.

I'd have been married, save myself a lot of money, a lot of attorney fees also. Hey, see, see, that's why I'm thankful. Hey, Joe, sometimes they got to get up. See, that's what I'm going to do. Just this conversation in general, I'm going to get on my knees after the show. And I'm, I'm going to thank God. I'm going to thank God because Unc just ran off from got damn numbers, right? And that's just, and you think, Joe, I got eight, Joe.

I got eight, Joe, and I ain't, listen. Hey, hold on, listen to me. This, let me tell you why I'm grateful, though, Joe. Unc just ran off them numbers, right? Boy, I ain't never seen it, never had to do nothing like that, Joe. You know? No private school, none of your kids went to private schools, none of your kids? No, no, no, no, no, no, Joe.

Joe, my kid needed character. It's a different time now, Ocho. Hey, yeah, my kid did it carry. It's a different time. Yeah. Even, even, even now, Ocho, what you was paying, you'd probably have to double that. Even just because the cost of living is higher. You're talking about, you're talking about 15, 18, 20 years ago.

So you know what the cost is right now. Yeah, Joe. So obviously the cost of living is gone up. So is the cost of raising the child is going. It's high. Hey, Joe, some of them numbers, unk was ripping off to, you know, them people, them type of people, you know,

having kids by certain people, it ain't really about the child in the first place. Well, that'll be, that's for them. Come on, nah. Come on, now. Yeah. Can you imagine having to pay for a child, 50,000 a month? Oh, 100,000 a month?

Yeah. Two years old? What the hell? What we doing? Uh-huh. Boy. The fact that they grant that to some people. Oh, yeah, absolutely, because it's based off the income.

It's mind-boggling. I'm like, man, how somebody needs 30, 40, 50K a month for a child, bro? I know a guy that was paying in the early 2000. was playing 14,000 a month. I know, yeah, I know a few cats. Who paying more than that? 14,000 a month. I know a dude playing 17,000 a month.

22,000 a month. I'm like, man. That's $168,000 a year. It's where you file at, too, though. You know where they have them kids at. Now, there are some states that the map is cap. You could only get X amount. You might only get $3,500.

You only get $5,000. Right. And then some states they based on how much the father makes. Yeah, but I'm saying and they make you responsible for the private tuition because they say if the child the child should be afforded a life that if the child was with you that the child wouldn't enjoy without you. Absolutely. Yeah. I ain't telling what somebody told me. I'm telling you. I'm talking about a whole lot. I don't know what you talk about. Yeah. Bull Jive. Yeah. I'm with you when you're right. Hey, hey, boy, that's a. I'm going to. I'm going to be. I'm going to talk about. I'm going to talk about. I'm going to talk about. I'm going to. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm I'm glad, boy, those I had kids from, boy, they weren't like that, man. Yeah, Joe, I'm Joe, I'm getting on my knee because I just, just, it makes me cringe hearing the numbers that I'm rolling off. And, and, and also, I'm present, Joe. Hey, and that's my thing, okay, Ocho, it's like, these numbers I'm telling y'all, I'd have heard about cats paying, and man, they, they almost got custody of their kids,

and they still paying this amount. Absolutely, you get the kids doing the summer. you get the kids for one or two months, guess what? You still got to send that same money. So we're going to move on. Abdul Carter was asked today about hearing teammates say he needs to grow up. He responded, I'll take it. The guys who say that are the guys I look up to.

I respect. If they say something like that, I've got to look at myself and say, how can I get better? Maris Taylor also had a message for Abdul Carter saying, wake up. This is what you work for. This is what you want to be. So now that you are there, wake up. I like it. That's a good response from him.

That's a grown-up response, too. Yeah. That's a grown-up response, you know, but normally. You're the number three in the pick of the draft, and they got to tell you, Ocho, you're sleeping in a meeting, you miss. Come on that, Ocho. Yeah, you're right. We got to hold these kids account.

He's in a kid, he's grown-ass man, he's paying bills. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got to, hey, hey, hey, we don't jump on me twice already. We don't jump on him twice already. We understand, Joe, being ex-basketball player, Ocho and I being ex-football players, we understand that some guys, mature a little slower than other guys.

Yeah, especially when it comes to being professional at their occupation. Yeah. But at some point in time, bro, how many times they got, they don't, this is twice in a matter of less than a month. Yeah. That you missed time because of something that you can control. Yeah, through three weeks to be exact. Yeah.

Yeah, that's, this is not college. They're not going to babysit you, bro. Mm-mm. man hey look he's getting a little grace too Joe because you know he is a third pick in the draft but he only he only gonna get well actually third pick he's gonna get a lot of grace hey man when I came on another team hey when I came into the league uncle Ocho I was so nervous and scared bro I try to do everything the right way yes yeah try to be not on time but way before time you know what I mean but because I came up and I was coached by D Nolan Richardson

at the University of Arkansas, who was so old school, he didn't play none of that, bro. Like, I was groomed for all this before I even got to the pros. So when I did get somewhere and a coach was playing these mind games, man, I haven't been through all that.

I've seen it all. He was ready. Yeah. Hey, look, I'm still going to show up. I'm still going to do my work. I'm going to still do what I have to do, and I'm going to play hard. So I understood that at a young age, man.

Yeah, I like it. I like it. Mayor Porter used to say, boy, you, that's the only, school way. If a man gives you an honest salary, you give him honest day's work. You be on time. You know what time you got to be at work. Yeah. Oh, I, I thought, bro, you come to work every day. Work started at eight o'clock. What you mean you thought the day you started at 18? I just, I just, I'm just going to be, I'm just a sticker for time.

And maybe I'm too much of a stickler for time. But my time is valuable. Yeah, too valuable. I don't have a whole lot of it. I definitely don't, I'm on the other side. You know what I'm saying? I'm 57. I'm on the other side, Ocho. I ain't got a whole lot of time. And there's going to be a time. They're going to be a time that I'm going to wish I'm going to have some time back. Right. You know, waiting on some jackleg that bull jiving around. Mm-hmm. Yeah. All right, Ocho and Joe, it's time to play play a fade presented by prize picks. All right.

You got it. Joe, Anthony Edwards will have more than 40 points, rebound, and assist. So he'll have, when you combine his points, rebounds, and assists, it'll be more than 40. Who they playing? Pelicans.

Oh, yeah, they, yeah. Points, rebound, assist, 40? He, for sure, getting that. He probably can get that off a point. He's getting that. All right. Derek Queen, he'll have at least four assists

that play the Timberwolves. I like, I like Big Queen. I'm giving them, yeah, I'm giving them the forces, yeah. All right, we're going forward. George Pickett, Ocho, 81 receiving yards. Absolutely. Tomorrow? Yep.

Hello. Absolutely. Terry and Arnold out. Yep. Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure if he was in him to make much of a difference, but I'm going more also. Jameson Williams, more than 83.5 receiving yards. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, yeah. They didn't have no choice. You'll get 84 yards against your, uh, yo, your cowboys. Hey, Joe, is, uh, I'm in Ross, St. Brown playing? Cause, you know, he left. It's a game, it's a game time decision with his ankle. Ooh. That's going to, that's going to determine a lot.

Yeah, because they're going to go to coach. No, he ain't in that. I don't know, I don't know. And the thing you have, a cowboys, Cowboys D-Live been playing really good. Oh, yeah, come on. Gills some love now. Gild some love. Clownie and Williams and, you know,

Diggie Zua, Quentin Williams. They're shaking it up. Kenny Clark. Yeah. Yeah. We're trying to make a little late search, you know, going down the stretch.

I'm going down the stretch. I'm going to say under. $25 to win a buck 50. Download the app today. Use coach Shannon to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5. a lineup prize picks it's good to be right hey hey joe what's up yeah i got a joke you want to hear let me hear what you got hey aunt you ready yeah chat y'all ready okay stay ready all right hey

what's a kidnapper's favorite shoe a kidnapper's favorite shoe yeah hush puppy joe what you think kidnap's favorite shoe uh I don't know what's your hair. You're all ready? Yeah. White vans. There's been here. Time for our final segment of the evening.

It is time for Q and A. Just here. Aaron Jones, any Buffalo fans in the chat, you can get this work. You know damn well, Slay and Miss wanted to come back to Philly. WaiverWire needs to go. Dary Slay was released. He asked for and got his release by the Steelers.

He was picked up by the Buffalo Bills, Ocho. He was hoping to get back, maybe potentially get back to Philly. But it's not going to happen. He's going to be in Buffalo. Kepernard, Norwood, Jr. I'll always be here for you at Ocho. Love always. Appreciate that, Kemper.

Appreciate that. Aaron O is 513. Devante Adams has 117 touchdowns. I think he got a shot to catch T.O. and Randy before he retires. I agree. Playing it the way he's playing right now. Yeah.

I don't know if Jerry. I don't know if Jerry's 197 with his with in reach. But, hey, he's got 14 right now. I can see a scenario where he gets 20. Yeah, absolutely. he's on the right team to do it too he's on the right team and the right system where they they throw the ball

in volume and the opportunities they're going to always present themselves Hot water corn brand fidget and say can we get a new Lakers in five we got something brewing we definitely got some brewing we got to find out who they're going to get who they're going to get you know we got Luke on our side now so we got

something we definitely got something brewing Quas 336 Trayfo native here CP3 is a legend would love to see Houston pick him up, much love. I don't think. You think anybody else pick him up, Joe? I think he'll get picked up,

but I don't think Houston going to pick him up. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy, that was a great interview with Dr. Bryant. Sounds like she's giving you the same advice I did. I just don't get it. You've been hit by men away with 200 pounds who can bench press a Buick, but you won't let the right woman touch your heart.

Hey, hold on, hold on, we're supposed to be getting married next year. You got somebody lined up, don't you? Yeah, yeah, I mean, Dr. Dr. Frank, you know, I'm with you winning right now. I'm with you with you right. Okay, yeah, we good, Doc. We're good because, you know, we're having a dual wedding. Well, actually, triple, because Joe, you say you're going to come too, huh? Yeah, I'm going to be there, Joe.

No, I talk about be there, be part of it. We could be the first people. We can do the show. We can do nightcap during the wedding. Yeah, we got to work out. the logistics and all that. We got to sit down at the round table by different. Okay, okay, okay.

But I think that would be, we'd be the first ones to ever have, you know. It sounds good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's nice. Smoke phase 3-3-3. He's six on the scoring list all time for the clippers, number one in the assists,

and he can't say anything? So let me ask you a question. Can that help him be in number six in the score and number one in the assists? Can that help them now? That's why I keep telling y'all. to update your resume. You do.

That's crazy. I don't, I think you, I'm with you when you got to update your resume, but I think the work that he's put in, man, unless it was him shouting and yelling at the coaches or the assistant coaches, I think the men should have an input, though. He should be able to say someone, like I said, he said it. And they say, okay, we don't want to hear it no more. He did, Joe. That's probably what got him out of there.

You're probably right. You're probably right. I think, and another thing, by him, you know, he spent the bulk of his years playing for the clippers, man. He probably, you know, he probably had a sense of comfortability in being there and being able to voice what he felt, you know, he's seen. So, yeah, maybe they just weren't having it. Gary Julian hasn't sat the bench for years.

His voice meant the most in the locker room, so he definitely blamed, ignore him. You should know better. Chris Paul made that franchise relevant. Bro, Haslam never left. That was his sole role. I mean, Chris Paul, how many teams have Chris Paul been on since he left the Clippers?

Yeah. He's been in OKC, he's been at Houston, he's been at Phoenix he's been at San Antonio It's not the same UD from Florida And UD UD has been there

That's the only franchise he's played for He from Florida, yeah Yes Yeah Yeah Uh Ma'am 7 Anyone with two eyes

knows MJ is the goat Well Anyone with what Two eyes? I got three eyes Two eyes Two eyes I'm a cyclops I got three

because it's Brian to me JJ Carver 80 at this point reach out to Elgado for sponsorship we definitely uh little David 61

yonis won a ship for the team they were drafted from he can leave if he wants brand ran to Cleveland because he could not win in Cleveland he ran to Miami because he couldn't win in Cleveland

okay Debron went one in Cleveland didn't he come back and win one Yeah. Braun never got traded. Braun never asked to get traded. Played his years out in Cleveland, went to Miami, played four years in Miami, went back to Cleveland,

played four years in Cleveland. LeBron never got traded, never asked to get traded. I don't have a problem with guys leaving and getting traded. I get a problem with guys trying to throw shade. when LeBron did something and they secretly turn around and do the exact same thing. That's the only problem I got.

I got a problem with Yonis wanting to leave. Hey, go where you feel you have a better chance to win. Yeah. But I remember a couple years ago and y'all remember it too. Babin Patel, Yonis to the Warriors for Kaminga,

Pazeski, Pesimski, excuse me, and two pigs. No, that's not going to do it. Give me Steph Curry and two ill pick. Oh, man, come on now. Okay, then.

No, so no, get to step it. That ain't happening. Triple F Cops Saturday says shout out to Elgado for keep showing up nightcap. Ocho, come on, man. Get your money back. Also pay his money. Yeah, do that, Ocho. Robert Go, man's, unc.

You told Bun B, you want to host Nightcap at the Houston Rodeo next year. Do you have the date? I want to plan flights in hotel in advance. Go Bears. I know. We're going to reach out to Bun. See what's going on. That's going to be live.

That's going to be live. Hold on, y'all going to get out there. Y'all going to bull ride now, let it? No, no, no, I am. We're going to host the show. Hey, I'm going to ride the bulls. Hey, Joe, I'm going to do everything. We're going to make that a part of the show.

That's going to be an extension of the show. I'm going to go out there crazy. Boy, Joe, you know, Joe, you know, I ride bulls, horses. I do all that, Joe. Hey, they say if you ain't living life on the edge, you're taking up too much space. Hey, who are you telling him? Yeah, okay

That's okay I'm only taking into the space that I occupy I ain't occupying nobody else space so don't worry about what I'm doing over here Shell the Pope who's winning a three on three

to 11 nightcap Big Three versus 520 Oh we got them They say what They're talking about Big three us Me you Ocho

against 520 We got them Hold on Hey a matter of fact I'm whoever just said that Why I was just thinking about that earlier today having all the podcasters, all the podcasts.

520, the pivot, busing with the boys. Oh, I don't know, the pivot not beating us, no. Hold on, but listen, hey, just something competitive where we all, where we all, we all competing something. I mean, that, that would be so fun.

Like a, like a podcast war or something. I don't, I don't know, I don't know, I'm just. What we're playing? I mean, I, they say three on three to 11. Three on three. Oh, we're good. Hey, we good. Hey, them boys like that hell, man.

We good. Hey, Joe will have all left because I'm beating him. Man, we good. You're out on the block, Joe. Yeah. Oh, Joe. Can you shoot? Yeah, I can shoot, Joe.

Don't worry about it, Joe. You got left in you. Hey, Joe. We won't find out if he can shoot because I ain't passing him, is. Hey, don't worry about it. Hey, I'm like, Shay out there on the court, now. That's what we're not going to do it. All right, all right, all right.

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, we saw you. We saw you, we saw you. We saw you. No, you're not like Shea. I am like Shea. Yeah, you like Shea, wow, daughter. No, you're not playing.

You're not throwing you the ball. You will not get any shots. Re-battle. I'm a competitor. You throw me the ball. Hey, hey, Ocho, as long as you can hustle, playing hard. Hey, that's what I did.

I ain't, listen, that wasn't my job. We had a score. You said, you said it was all about knowing your role, right? I understood my role when I was there. Oh, yeah, we good. What the way we got to worry about is Gil? Gil, because he got Kenyon and, uh, uh, man, I'm gonna lock Gil, bad knee having eyes up, man. Gill ain't going to shoot.

Gill ain't going to go shit. KG and Paul Pierce, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know a truth. I got, I got, I got KG, because I'm going to talk him about his game. I got KG, I'm going to talk about this game. I'm going to have my day ready to fight. Yeah, and congratulations to $5.20. They got an Adidas deal. They signed the shoe deal, nightcap neck.

But see, you see, you see full frontals of them, so, but you don't see, what we got on. I got on flip flops. Actually, I got on crocs. Yeah. Oh, I got on socks. They dirty, though. Oh, right. Maricio Zepeda. Got 12,000 minutes listening to Nightcap on Spotify. Maricio, thank you, bro. Hey, I don't know, man, that means you probably in the top 1, 2%, because we've been seeing that a lot today, man. We can't thank you guys enough. We see you guys that, that's got all these minutes here in the top 0-0.00.1%. Hey, we appreciate that, bro. We are. Appreciate that.

Can't thank you guys enough. Brandon Crow, Ocho told me to catch you outside for my comment on Jerry not being able to catch. Well, I'm still waiting as cold as,

is, is, outside, so hurry. Yeah, Ocho. I bet you Cleveland would trade y'all, Judy for T. Higgins. You want,

want that you want that trade you said he a number one you say Higgins are number one so why not make that trade well what's trade T Higgins for Jerry Judy Cleveland yeah we can do we can do that we can do that what you trying to what you trying to do Cleveland trying to trade you Jerry Judith for T Higgins I say okay come on T T T going to want to go over there and that's T going to want to go to Cleveland I I'm just asking you, do you want to trade? I'm just asking, do you think T is going to want to go over there to Cleveland,

based on what's going on over there? I think T's going to want to go get his money. I don't know if T's going to be able to come back next year. This is basically a one-year deal. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, the way it's struck me. It's basically a one-year deal. But thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.

We can't thank you enough. I'm your favorite, Uncle Shannon Sharp, my partner and co-host, Liberty City's Own, the Bing of Fame Honorary, the Pro Bowl of the All-Pro, that is Chad. Ocho Sinko Johnson. Third member of the Big Three joining us every Wednesday night.

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