Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Zion out for season, Pistons & Timberwolves brawl, Ball brothers snitching
Episode Date: April 5, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best hoops stories of the week, including Zion Williamson out for the season, Pistons vs. Timberwolves: Malice at the Palace II, &... much more!04:20 - UConn and Texas advance to Final Four11:52 - Zion and McCollum done for the season25:33 - Pistons vs. Timberwolves fight30:20 - Ball Brothers snitching39:00 - Women’s Final Four(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Paige Buckets, Becker's 31 points, six assists.
That's coming off a game in which she dropped 40.
Sarah Strong had 22 points and 17 rebounds
as they led the Huskies to their 24th Final Four appearances.
UConn is hoping to win the first national championship
since 2016.
We'll face UCLA in its Final Four run on Friday.
USC's Final Four drought continues with tonight loss.
USC will head the next season
with his final four drought set at 40 years.
The Trojans last made it.
Cheryl Miller final season as a player
when they were national runner up.
They lost to the Lady Longhorns that year.
I think Clarissa Davis,
I think they were 35 and 0 that year.
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84 because they beat La Tech the lady teamsters.
So, long drought, we knew it was gonna be an uphill climb without Juju.
Yeah, they were gonna have their work cut out even with Juju.
With Juju, so I have a question.
If Juju was planned, do you think there was a chance
that they would have better chance?
Oh, absolutely, yeah.
Or do you think they still would have lost?
I'm not gonna say that, but I'm saying Juju is one
of the two or three best players in college basketball.
I'm not so sure she's two or three,
if you get where I'm going with this.
She's sensational.
Absolutely, they have a chance.
And we were hoping because we saw what that matchup was last year.
So we were just hoping that came back again
and when they were on the same side,
it lined up perfectly.
Okay, we're about to get this matchup again.
And unfortunately we did not get that.
So it is what it is.
Hey, Juju will be back stronger, better than ever.
I don't know if she's had the surgery,
but Paige, say they exchanged information.
Paige is torn her ACL.
She's gone through this.
There are a lot of players that have torn their ACL
that can have a conversation.
Keep her up.
It's just a minor setback for a major comeback.
Reach out to Adrienne Peterson.
Obviously it's a little different,
football and basketball, but I have no doubt in my mind that Juju Watkins is going to
come back and she'll be as good, if not better, than what she was before. So yeah, but Yukon's
gonna be tough. Yukon's gonna be tough. They good. They've been, Gino is good at the college game.
He's the greatest women's college coach. I'm not so sure you're gonna tell me
there are four or five men coaches
that are better than Gino based on what he's done.
And with that being said,
you never say never Ocho because in one game
anything can happen.
Somebody get hot shoot three,
they can make a bunch of threes
and shoot you out of the gym.
But the way Paige is playing, boy,
they got the work cut out for her.
She's all, I mean, you remember when Caitlin Clark
went on that run, the last couple of years,
Caitlin Clark would blow it up, blow it up everybody.
Paige Beckers is having that type of game.
She dropped 40 and then she drops 31.
Ooh, that's not, that's not,
that's gonna be a difficult, a difficult handle.
Azzy Fudd had not played particularly well lately, but when you get Paige playing as
well as she's playing, you know Fudd could go off.
And then the lady tonight, what was it?
Sarah Strong, 22 points and 17 rebounds.
Huh?
She's a fresh, yeah.
And so now that tells me,
when you get that many rebounds on her,
you'll get some second chance points.
Cause they ain't all defensive rebounds.
She's getting some of those on the offensive end,
which is that if she doesn't put it back,
she's gonna give you an opportunity
to get a lot of second chance points.
So, it's gonna be a very tough matchup for UCLA,
but UCLA say, we belong. We've been ranked number one. I think they've only lost two games. What, it's going to be a very tough
matchup for UCLA but UCLA say
we belong. We've been ranked
number one. I think they've
only lost two games. What they
lost two games all year. I
think USC beat them twice. I
don't think they lost another
game, did they? Or did they
lose the Okay, so they lost me
with the hour? Well, we lost to Tennessee. We lost to Tennessee on the road?
Another day.
So, it's going to be a great matchup.
Can't wait to see it.
Texas, top TCU to advance to its first Final Four since 2003.
The Horned Frogs enter the first half with more turnovers, 11, than May Fielgold, 7.
TCU finished the game with 21 turnovers on just 12 May Fielgold.
Texas have that ability.
I mean, I can see a game where it's 35, 34 USC in Texas.
Right.
Excuse me, they play each other.
They know each other.
They're in the same conference, Ocho.
Texas beat Texas snap USC's SEC winning streak.
And then, you know, USC returned the favor
when they got them in the conference
championship. But hey, team two teams that are very familiar with each other, both of
them play outstanding defense. It's gonna be a great matchup. We know what Dawn Staley
is. She's been here. She's done that. They don't have the shoot. I'm not saying they
don't have it because they have the same women on the squad that made a lot of
Pow-pow and you know, Chloe kiss can dominate the glass. I think Raven Johnson
They have got they have young ladies that can make the shots
They just for whatever reason they haven't made them this year
So it's going to be a very very interesting matchup
I think it's going to be I think it's going to be a low scoring game
Ocho because both of these teams get out there defensively
What um I think it's gonna be a low scoring game, Ocho, because both of these teams get out there defensively.
But they play Friday or Saturday? Both are Friday.
Oh, Friday, right?
Okay.
Let's go to the game.
They play Friday because the championship game is Sunday
because the men's championship game is Monday.
But it used to be the women played after the men's.
I think they men. I
think they did. I think they
did. You heard me. You don't
want to go to the game. It's in
Tampa. You don't want to go to
the game. I just asked you
bro. That's right down. That's
that's that's right down the road from you bro. That ain't right down the road for me. I
know it's right down the road
for me but I'm inviting you to go
to the game and we can sit
course side and we can and we
can talk we obviously we'll
probably have a show. No, we
don't have the show Friday. We
can talk about a Saturday. No,
we ain't got no I gotta be I
gotta be in I'm gonna be in
Virginia. I got a prior
engagement. So I'm inviting you
to watch the game. I have a
prior engagement. What? I got a prior engagement. So I'm inviting you to watch the game. I have a prior engagement
What I have a prior engagement
What's more important the engagement or your co-host invite you to sit court side at the game? I promised my brother. I would do something with him
He'd been in your life all this time he go be about like you
All right. Well, well hell I'm expecting He's been in your life all this time. He's going to be in my
life too. Alright. Well, hell,
I'm expecting to be here too.
So, I mean, I got a prior
engagement. Oh, Joe. You know,
I get my word. I, you know,
okay. Okay. But uh II
invite somebody else. I, I
think Chan Chan, you want to,
you want to go to the game? No, he's able wanted to go to the game with you. Oh Joe the New Orleans Pelicans have shut down Zion Williamson and CJ McCollum for the rest of the season due to injuries.
What did we do? Zion in 2019-2020 he played 24 games in 2020-2021 he played zero games. 20, 22, 23, he played 29 games.
23, 24, 70 games.
This year, 30 games.
He's earned almost $115 million.
There are 82 game season.
Right.
But hold on, but the 1920,
that was the COVID year, right?
So they didn't play a full season.
1920. Yeah.
But he missed 21 games, he missed 82 games,
he missed 53 games, he missed 12 games, he missed 52 games.
I have a question.
Who was it we just talked about?
Where they did a test and decided
because of his injury history, they didn't want to sign him.
Was it the late guy?
Oh, yeah, the dude from Charlotte.
I can't remember his name.
I know. I know you're talking about, though. Yes.
It did design Williams before entering the draft,
despite how great he was coming in. Did he have a history? Was the injury problem? I'm not sure what I'm talking about though. Yes, it did. did
Zion Williams before entering
the draft despite how great he
was coming in. Did he have an
injury? No. was the injury? No.
So, all this is new. Yeah. but
you have to understand you go
from playing what 2530 games in
high school 3035 games in college. If you go all the way to the final four to try to play 82.
More demands on the body, more grueling, a back to back.
You ain't paying, you know, you're not playing back to back in college.
You're not playing back to backs in high school.
OK, well, what's the answer?
Because there are multiple there.
I'm not sure how many NBA players there are in the NBA,
but they've been playing the 83 games for a long time.
Injuries do happen, but do injuries happen?
Some people are predisposed.
Some people have, you know, the way you're built,
the way you run, the way you land.
There are a lot of things that go into it.
At this rate?
With Zion.
We haven't been able to play a full season yet today?
But here's the thing. Oh Joe,
when you talk about a man, his
size, you when have you seen
somebody that size that explosive?
Shit, not exactly.
And until until you know, I think
the thing is he he's a little
heavy. Now he looked good. He came back to say he was 264, which think the thing is he's a little heavy now he
looked good he came back to say he was 264 which is as light as he's been
since he's been in the NBA light
man how the hell you jumping like that at 264 jumping like that at 284 300 it's hundred. It's explosive. But
that's a lot. I mean, think
about it. You know, hey, uh,
planting, stopping and cutting,
you were able to do that
because you were like, just
imagine somebody to 25 trying
to stop planting speed out,
cut like you did. Exactly.
Hey, listen, some, some guys
exactly. Exactly. He is a, he you know, you're like, hey, listen, some some guys exactly
exactly. He is a he is a
he has an 18 wheeler body but
he has a Ferrari engine in it
and so he's so explosive. He
gets so much elevation. at some
point in time, all that boundary up and down up and down running in and out and if you have to stay
On top of it. Oh Joe you have to get your treatment. You have to make sure you ice
Knees and your ankles look at look at look at LeBron a lot of times LeBron
He got ice packs on his back as soon as game over you guys face on his back
He got his feet in cold tub. He got ice bags on his knees. I
the cold tub. He got ice bags So I mean are there are the pelicans to blame at all or is everything is the onus on this and the injuries year
After year after year, this is all on Zion. Just curious
Well, I mean look look they I mean, okay, you can only do so much. I mean
What you do and what you do how you eat how you prepare?
Are you getting enough rest there are a lot of things that go into it. Teams cannot watch you 24 seven. You can't. That's where the really good players, they do
it away because if if all you do is what's required of you, you're never
going to be great. You're never going to be great.
You see, you know, I was reading the quote will I am said, he said work life
balance is for someone
that's fulfilling somebody else's dream.
You got work life balance,
you paying for somebody else kids to go to college.
You paying for their second and third home.
That's not yours.
So what is it that Zion wants to do?
How great does he want to be? Because if you want to be great and ask anybody that wants to be great,
I'm talking about great great.
Ask him what their work-life balance is about.
Go ask Steph Curry.
Go ask LeBron.
Go ask anybody that wants to be great.
Tom Brady, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson.
Go ask anybody.
Everybody don't want that greatness, do they, Ocho?
Yeah.
Talk about it all the time.
I can't want it.
You can't want something more
than somebody wanted for themselves.
Right.
I don't care how much money you give somebody
because eventually that stimulus will go away.
If you're not a very self-motivated person, there ain't enough money in the
world to keep you motivated.
Cause we've seen guys, hundred million dollar contract, $200 million contract
and give it all up.
John just got to make it to what's what's important to it.
What does he want to do?
Why?
I mean, how, how does he want to be remembered?
Hey, he made money. He's, he mean, how, how does he want to be remembered? Hey, right. He made
money. He's, he's, he's made a lot of money. He made 115
million. That's, that's an NBA salary, not counting what he's
made off the court. He's a brand, a brand Jordan deal that
probably plays in $10 million a year. He can just live off that.
Yeah.
Russell, I'm sure he has some local stuff
in New Orleans, I'm sure he has some local brands there
that he's doing stuff with, but there's a price,
oh Joe, there's a price to be paid for greatness.
And if you don't, if you're not willing to pay that price,
you don't deserve to be great.
You don't deserve to be successful. You don't deserve to be successful.
I ain't gonna sugarcoat it.
Everybody doesn't want that.
They don't, everybody don't wanna be great, don't you?
People talk about greatness,
but if you understood what it required of you.
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Yeah, I think someone like him, as great as he was, you know, in college, I would think
and I would hope he would want to continue that greatness.
And I think it's just been, it's been derailed due to obviously the injuries, maybe the weight,
obviously being the size that he is and then being as explosive that he is, having that
combination.
It doesn't see fit.
And the first thing to give is your body. Certain parts of your body.
So I would think becoming or getting a little smaller similar to what Dak has done and dropping
what, 20, 30 pounds, however much they said, Dak had dropped.
I think it would behoove him to do just that.
I'm not sure who the people are around him, who his team is.
I'm hoping he doesn't have a team of yes people,
you know, that don't want to challenge him in any way
that they see fit, you know,
so they don't get their water cut off,
if you know what I mean.
It's hard to find people like that in the dojo.
I'm very fortunate that I have friends that,
and my sister, my sister, she don't care.
I'm like, you my my sister, my It's not easy, Ocho, because greatness is boring
because it's a very monotonous, tedious job
because you do the same thing over and over.
See, if you look at people, now I'm not talking about now.
I wonder how many vacations Jeff Bezos took
when he was trying to build Amazon.
I wonder, guys, that started Google,
how many vacations they took
when they were trying to build it.
Well, when you work 200 billion, you can go wherever you want to go now.
I'm talking about in the process of building.
Right.
Man, I need to...
Bro, work-life balance is not for people that desires greatness.
It ain't.
Hey, I don't know the effects and I don't know what would happen if, and I mean no disrespect,
what would happen if a player of Zion's caliber, would he still have that same explosiveness
if he took the alternative route and taking something like Ozempic?
I don't know.
I don't even know.
I don't know.
Excuse me for even asking.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful.
I'm just asking. You know. that's legal. I don't know, excuse me for even asking. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, I'm just asking.
It's probably banned.
I mean, in order for you to take anything,
I mean, look, it's best to run it through the NBA,
let the medical doctors say it's probably banned
unless you have diabetes.
It's a diabetic drug, Ocho.
That's what it was intended for.
Right, okay, okay, okay.
So unless you got diabetes,
the NBA, the NFL, MLB probably not gonna let you take it.
Right.
I don't know.
I listen, I'm sure they've been trying
to find scenarios that he knew or think.
There's sacrifice that comes along with that.
You must be willing to deny yourself certain things.
See, discipline requires you to do your very best
when no one else is watching. You see
discipline, okay, I want to do
this. I need to do that. Do I do
this? Or do I do that? That's
what this one does.
Hey, I can remember though,
uncle, when Zion came in, the
way they were talking, the way
they hyped him up based on
what he had already done in college, you do realize he was the one that's supposed to replace the way they were talking, the way they hyped him up based on what he
had already done in college, you do realize he was the one that's supposed to replace
the brawn and be in the face of the league, huh?
You know, they were pushing, I remember they were pushing that and I was, listen, I would
have loved to see someone take that torch and have that torch passed on to him, but
I mean, I think the injuries had just derailed it.
And at this point, being that he's not even played the 82 game season yet but I mean, I think the injuries had just derailed it. And at this point, being that he's not even played
an 82 game season yet, I mean, why not take
the alternative route and doing something else too
that makes it, could take the weight off you right there.
But if it's something the NBA won't allow.
I don't even know if you were to, if you were to,
I mean, because a zempic weighs muscle
and you'll never get it back.
because of Zempik weighs muscle and you'll never get it back.
Look at people, look at people that take Zempik
and look at their musculature. Is this there?
There's no, there's no to the muscle.
Look at people, look at people that take Zempik
and look at their definition is just.
Nothing. Right. that take Ozzypik and look at their definition. It's just nothing.
Right. Yeah, but listen, if you don't have the muscle,
that takes away some of the explosions.
Yeah, of course.
If you strip muscle away, where you take the muscle,
you got muscle in your glutes, your hamstring, your quads.
Yeah, absolutely it's gonna impact you.
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay, nevermind on that.
Yeah.
Ocho, the malice in the palace part two. Did you see
the fight earlier tonight? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Timber Wolf
Pistons, Naz Reed and Juan
Holland exchange words leading
to a scrapping between almost
everyone on the court. Yeah.
Seven players were rejected.
I would. I would. Do we have?
Do we know who rejected? I
wouldn't. I wouldn't. I guarantee you. I feel Stewart got rejected. I do we know who rejected I wouldn't I
wouldn't I guarantee you.
Azalea Stewart got ejected. You
heard me huh I wouldn't equate
this to the the the palace.
That's that's that's more
coaches even got into it. Okay
you had Holland Azalea Stewart
Marcus Sasser head coach JB
Bickerstaff were ejected on Detroit side.
Naz Reed, Dante DiVincenzo, Pablo Piggioni from the Wolves were also tossed.
Damn.
Coach just got squabbin'.
I ain't see no punches or nothing.
I just see a little tussling, you know, a little rasslin'.
Now, Malice in the Palace, that was Royal Rumble.
Yeah.
Pardon me, punches going everywhere.
I mean, listen,
I wonder what started that.
That had to be a constant buildup throughout that game.
Damn.
Oh, get off me, boy.
Oh, get off me, boy.
Man, Adam Silver ain't gonna like this. Adam Silver say, hey, the Raiders are down, but we don't want to get them back like this.
Hey, but listen, something like that, even as small as it might have been,
little fisticuffs, but that'd get some viewership now.
Yeah, they're talking dollars out your pocket.
David Stern cleaned that bull's job up.
I don't know, that's before your time,
but the 70s on Cho, and the 80s, early 80s, they squabbed.
I mean, they think, it wasn't no pushing and shoving.
They were throwing them things.
They let them hands go.
Yeah.
David Stern said, oh no, ain't no more, ain't no more.
And see after the malice of the Palace,
when David Stern put that pain on Metal World piece,
I think Steven Jackson got suspended.
Jermaine O'Neal.
Jermaine O'Neal.
I think they ended up, Ben Wallace got suspended.
Yeah.
Oh man.
So they've made it so cost prohibitive.
Ocho, they, I mean, Ronald O'Ted's got suspended
56 games, that's damn near his whole check.
You make it 10, 12 billion dollars, that's gone.
I ain't trying to game.
Hey, I'll catch your ass in the off season, bro.
Hey, hey, Ocho, hey,'ll get your **** in the off season,
bro. Hey, hey, Ocho. Hey, I'll
catch you at off season and you
better have a pamper on
because when I see you, I'm
gonna slap the **** out of
you. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, that's
that's crazy. Yeah. Hey, make
sure you got some baby wipes.
Yeah, we got this. Hey, where
is that read at? Oh, we're we're read
You said baby to my dude you took my dude
Yeah, I said no, I'm just saying you know I can't get I can't give up that kind of money out yo and that's why you see guys
They make it 50 60 million and then somebody I'd have punched him. No, you wouldn't
And lose 40 billion dollars cuz you punch somebody
Yeah, hey if you want to put you want to make give up 40 million dollars and lose $40 million because you punched somebody.
Hey, if you want to make, give up $40 million,
you need to go to the boxing.
Bud is available, better V-dance, you know,
better be somebody like that.
I ain't punching nobody for no $40 million.
They have their damn mind.
Nah, at all.
I mean, it sounds good in theory, but like I say guys just gonna you know look you shove
somebody you know your guy gonna run grab you their guy gonna run grab him.
Yeah.
Ain't nobody really trying to walla.
Yeah.
And I ain't trying to give him that kind of money.
Just a little tussling that's all.
No big deal.
No.
No big deal.
No punches thrown. Nobody injured, nobody hurt.
All this fear and love and war, man.
Tensions got a little high.
Sometimes it's what it comes to.
It does.
But look, when they say Detroit,
I already knew Isaiah Stewart was gonna be a part of it.
He be in the mix, huh? Every time time there is not one incident that has happened in Detroit since he's been
there, he hadn't been a part of it.
Oh, they call him Beef Stew.
He didn't force it in.
Yep.
He's going to be a part of it.
Yeah.
And so, like I said, when you say Detroit, oh yeah, he in it.
He in it.
Hey, no question whatsoever.
Ocho, Lonzo Ball, and Mr. Smitchin' on Lamello
back in the day.
Ocho, you ever snitch on your siblings?
If so, for what?
You know what?
Two brothers, Chauncey and Sam, I've never been in a position where I've
had to tell on them.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
I've never been in a position where I had to snitch on my little brother or my older
brother.
I'm snitching.
You gonna tell?
Huh?
Or you just playing?
I can be, my solids can't be bought. Oh, you just playing. I can be
you're going to you're going to
you're going to my brother, my
sister, my aunt. Oh man. You
got suspended because you know
they ride the bus and then they get going at school and they walk up town until time
and then they get on the bus and go home.
Right.
That'll cost you $5.
Oh, come on, huh?
You can't do that.
Grady, let me check Spanky, me and Spanky out of school.
We were at the Statesboro with shopping.
Yeah, you gonna tell about that?
They didn't even do nothing wrong.
My silence could be bought. Now, if you don't want me to snitch, go ahead and break bread.
Yeah, that's a good one. I don't know why y'all don't wanna...
Hey, you know what that reminds me of? I'm gonna see if you remember it. I don't think people in the chat might not know about it.
Obviously, you come from the church. I'm coming from the church. Please tell me, you remember the song
by Mississippi Mass Choir called Pull the Wagon.
Where the little boy, he threw the rock and hit the duck.
Yeah.
And his sister saw it.
And for him, for his sister not to tell his parents
that he killed the duck by throwing the rock,
he had to pull in the wagon.
I don't remember.
You never heard that story?
Oh man, you gotta hear it.
Because soon as you said,
my sila can be bought,
that's the first thing that came to mind.
I tell her everything.
Let's see, I had an aunt.
Now she was perfect.
The way you keep my silence. Right.
Dairy Queen, burger, milkshake, fries.
Go do what you wanna do.
I'm gonna sit in the car, leave the window cracked.
Oh man.
Now, cause you know we supposed to go for point A.
My grandfather say point A, point B.
Point B, yeah. Okay, nah, we didn't go play. What about we went to see too.
If my grandma take that boy with you. Yeah. Take that boy with you.
Yeah. So you could tell exactly where you take all the stops.
Think I wouldn't when I would.
You better pay me.
Oh, that's funny.
Pay me.
Little something to hold me over.
A little $2 here, $2 there.
Ain't nothing.
That's it.
Keep quiet.
Hey, listen.
So you know, now there have been times that I have been paid and they've made me mad
at a later date and time,
and I still had to regurgitate what I knew.
Oh, come on, man, you can't.
I'm just saying, I had to eat away.
Well, I know not to do nothing wrong with you, man.
God, leave.
Coach Joe, if I pay taxes in 2024,
does that mean I ain't gotta pay taxes in 2025?
It's still fresh.
Right. So, be on your best
behavior. Yeah. Don't be
talking crazy to Shane. Okay, I
got you. I got you. I got you.
I got you. Hey, I'm I have done
that. You know, I I apologize. Alright. Anybody that Anybody that I snitched on,
any of my aunts, my sisters, my brother,
I wanna take this time now to apologize.
Damn.
Yeah, you can't, you.
I take this time to apologize.
You know snitches get stitches, man.
Not when Barney Porter was alive,
I wouldn't get no stitches,
cause I tell that too.
But look here,
all I had to do was make a noise.
Right.
Hey, what's going on with that boy?
Hey, don't play.
Don't play.
Boy, if I start crying.
Yeah.
Why my stick is it?
Hey.
You're going to raise it.
What the hell going on out there?
You're going to raise hell, huh?
Okay, okay, here, here, here.
Here, I give you three dollars.
Don't say nothing.
Nothing. I failed.
My brother had to punch me or something.
Tripp.
Mm-hmm.
Hey, for y'all, Tripp. Mm-hmm.
Hey, for y'all, shut up.
Oh, yeah.
I'll tell. I'll tell back there, no joke.
I would. I apologize, though.
I want to say that was not the Shannon that I am today.
Yeah. Oh, so, okay.
So, you won't tell today, though?
No, I ain't telling.
All right, Jordan. Jordan was late.
Hey, y'all Jordan was late today.
I called him, asked him for something,
he ain't returned my call.
He was late.
He got here after Ash.
Appreciate that though.
We had, he had to pay you.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Yeah, he was late.
The first time he been late in a minute. Yeah. No, no. Yeah, he was late. The first time he been late in a minute. Yeah. Oh,
shit. Yeah. No, no. Don't even
do that. I know. I know. I
know. I don't tell nothing.
Yeah. Not now.
Back then, I was different me.
I was trying to find myself.
Even, yeah, I just, I can't find it in myself to tell.
I can't, it's easy.
Especially if it's something, if it's something I saw, something that I might have witnessed
or something, I just, I can't.
What did I witness?
Whatever it may have been.
I'm just saying in general, I don't know the circumstance,
but I just, I can't tell them,
I can't tell them a brother that can't, I can't do that.
No, no, no, no, no, no, hold on.
What did they do that?
Who did it?
Let me ask you, who did it?
I don't know, I ain't see.
Yeah, you asked me, I ain't see.
Yeah, you asked me, I ain't see. I'm reaching out.
But I'm saying, it's gotta be who did it.
Now, my brother, now?
Nah.
Somebody don't know?
Oh yeah, that's him, I'm picking him out.
Yeah, that's him right there.
Well, golly, huh?
Yeah, that's...
Right there.
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like't talk to him today. He late, you ain't talk. So don't nobody know nothing.
I'm like, need no problem.
Don't nobody know nothing.
That's funny.
That's funny how that always work.
I just, I couldn't do it.
I can't do it.
I can't do it.
You can't do what?
That just tell.
You ever see some time, some situations
where the mothers the mothers of
Kids that have done something wrong. Yeah, and they actually turn the kids in yeah
It all depends on what he did
Okay. Okay. I see what you mean. Yeah, okay, you're right. You're right. No, no, no, no, you own up to that
No, no, no, we the one thing a sharp kid gonna do is go on up the responsibility. Yes, sir. Oh
No, no, no, we're not letting somebody else. No, no, no
Just like you
He's a I told on Teddy. Yeah, I came and got daddy. He said daddy Teddy pooped in the house
He's a you didn't hear from me, but
He's a you probably gonna figure it out cuz it's gonna be really small. So it was him
Did you tell little Teddy?
So where is Teddy now?
He's there.
You wanna go stay with Ocho?
Yeah, come on, come on, come stay with,
hey Titus, imagine what we could do.
Imagine Titus, imagine the content we can create together. We can create magic.
You want to go to Miami?
He got a female.
Oh, yeah.
About one twenty.
Ocho, half of the women's Final Four is set.
Number one seed, the South Carolina Lady Gamecocks
and the UCLA Lady Bruins punch their tickets to Tampa Florida today two remaining spots
remain the TCU Lady Horn Frogs takes on the Texas no TCU excuse me the TCU Lady
Horn Frogs takes on the Texas Lady Longhorns you Yukon the Lady Huskies, takes on the USC Lady Trojans minus Juju.
Great matchups.
Yeah.
Um, could we get all four number one seeds?
That might be the first time that will ever happen, right?
Four number one seeds in the men's side go, four number one seed in the women's
side in the same year, in the same year.
I think that was probably the first time.
I think if we're going to get an upset, we'll probably be TCU.
But Yukon could possibly spring the upset,
but man, Paige Buckets, she was sensational.
She was sensational to the other night.
As if, hey, she went on a 19-0 run by herself.
Normally you see a team go on a run,
they go on 10, 15, 20 point runs.
There's a lot of scoring going on.
He went, she went on a 19-0 run by myself.
So she seems to be peaking at the right time.
Seems like everything is going their way, but I can't wait to see.
Like I said, the Lady Gamecots and the Lady Trojans, Bruins, they're there. They're waiting on someone. Who will it be?
Will it be the lady horn frogs or the lady longhorns,
the lady Huskies or the lady Trojans tomorrow night? Uh,
today the lady game cocks took down the number two seed Duke, lady blue devils,
coach, uh, Dawn Staley.aley is our fifth straight final four appearance.
It's Julie Stewart.
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The Bruins beat LSU to deny them another Final Four appearance.
If I'm not mistaken, I think this is the Bruins, this is their first Final Four in history
of the ladies basketball program.
Now they're strong, used to be strong in ladies softball, lady volleyball.
They were tremendous when they had Lisa Fernandez, they got this thing started.
They were really, really good in softball.
No, they were, that was really good.
They were great in softball.
But right now, but for them to now flip the script
and be good in basketball, ladies basketball,
that's very, very, that was very good.
They've come a long way.
Ocho, we have some very interesting sounds
from the LSU Tigers head coach, Kim Mulkey.
Let's take a listen to what she had to say.
Jaden Smith, KLSU Sports.
Coach, it's the second straight year you guys
get eliminated in the Elite Eight.
Just keep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Was that terrible or was that good?
Terrible.
Was it?
How many Final Fours you've played?
Uh-oh, Lord.
Uh, none. None.
So it's probably pretty good, huh?
Yeah.
All right.
Really?
Oh.
Oh, Joe.
Really?
Yeah.
But listen, you got to be careful with the question and the way you word it, the delivery
and what you're asking, especially after a game like that and being eliminated.
Yes.
You know what they tell players?
You know what they tell players? Know what they tell players after the game?
Right.
Take your time and cool down.
Come to your senses before you answer any questions.
She was still, she just lost the game.
So you have to understand why she was feeling
the way she felt and why she answered the question.
She's not a thousand and oh.
Huh?
Has she ever not, has she not lost the game before?
Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, Ocho, it wasn't, he didn't even get a? Has she ever not, has she not lost the game before? Yeah, I, yeah.
I mean, Ocho, it wasn't,
he didn't even get a chance to finish the question.
He's asking a coach, this is the second time
you've been eliminated.
And for you to snap back and say,
well, how many Final Fours have you been to?
I mean, you,
Really?
I understand.
Listen, I totally understand where you're coming from.
As a journalist, as an analyst, excuse me, as a journalist,
he has a job to do.
He has questions to ask.
To mention, oh, this is the second time you've been eliminated,
you have to understand where she's coming from
and see it from her perspective.
Well, goddamn, I just got eliminated.
You let me know it's the second time I got eliminated.
I know how many times I've been eliminated.
Just how about word the question differently,
and you wouldn't get the response you got.
How would you have worded the question?
Coach, it's an unfortunate loss you guys have been eliminated
and then go on to what you want to say.
Mentioning that she's been eliminated twice
is totally unnecessary and it's somewhat of a jab
and that's the way she took it, which is why,
excuse me, I'm talking too damn fast,
which is why she answered it the way she did.
She was snappy based on the way the question was answered.
You change the way you ask it and you change the delivery,
I guarantee your answer is different.
That's all I'm saying.
I don't believe so.
Kim Mokie has been nasty for a very long time
and she's gotten away with this type of behavior
because she is a national champion winning coach
Oh, so she has history of doing this. He has a history
Okay doing this the same thing with Bobby Knight Bobby Knight had a history of their behavior
But because he was a national champion winning coach you skews said behavior remember people excuse
Behavior if you win if they like you.
Kim Mulkey has been nasty for an extremely long period
of time.
If this is unacceptable for an athlete to say,
well, how many times have you caught a pass in the NFL?
How many times have you scored a basket in the NBA?
How many times have you struck somebody out of the,
that would be unacceptable.
This is unacceptable for Kim Mokie.
Right.
Because he phrased the question.
It's that, hold on, wait a minute.
Coach, I know you're probably upset.
This is the second time, this is the second,
in back to back years you got eliminated.
Considering, you know, she went to the,
did she go, hold on.
Oh, she went to the Final Four.
Didn't, who put it, yeah.'t go. Uh, who put it? Yeah
Yeah, Lady Lake who put out
Whether the I'm not sure.
She doesn't plus she doesn't have the horses that she once had. Right, obviously. Yeah. Yeah.
OK, because I remember, because they beat them
in the national championship, and then I returned the favor.
She doesn't have me.
You lose a double-double machine.
And Angel Reese, she was sensational.
No matter what you think about her,
she was a double-double machine.
She's going to probably give you 15 and 15.
And it was hard to keep Lauren Betts, 6'7", off the glass.
They got a lot of extra points.
They got a lot of extra second chance points.
Gabriela Jauquez was great from the three-point line.
She really put the dagger through the heart.
When they got the rebound, they got the kick out.
And Betts turned around and found her and she nailed it.
That was for all intents and purposes.
That was the end of the game.
Flage was sensational, especially the second half.
They needed more scoring.
And they couldn't get that other than Flage.
They really didn't have a whole lot.
Amaro was kind of neutralized because Betts is six, seven.
That's a lot of height.
And so she did a great job.
I think she has six, six or seven block shots.
But I just look, I get it. Oh, Joe. I get it. Where we're, we're upset when we're, you know,
when emotion is high logic is generally low. And we say things and probably, she probably doesn't
feel bad because like I said, she's a four time national champion winning coach
and she's gotten away with saying things.
She's gotten away with treating people nasty.
But for me, I just, I just, especially,
I just expect more from a coach.
Right. That's all.
That's all.
17, 18, 19 year old kids.
Right. Yeah, I get it.
But when you've been in this situation
for an extended period of time,
and you expect your players to behave
in a certain manner after the game,
I think the coach should set the precedent,
should set the example, should lead by example,
and set the precedent and say, you know what,
you're right, we gotta do a better job
of playing better earlier,
we gotta do a better job of knocking down shots,
not turning the ball over,
and hey, getting some better players.
At the end of the day, it comes down to players win.
I can coach them up and put them in the right spot,
but hey, that UCL team, they play really, really good.
There's a reason why they're the number one overall seed.
There's a reason why they won the Big Ten Championship.
They got an All-American over there.
They're a really good basketball team.
So I know we are hurt and disappointed right now
that we're not advancing, but we
shouldn't hang our heads because we accomplished a lot this year. We'll be back. We'll be back.
Now listen, that answer you just gave, that's awesome. That's awesome. That would be great
for inauguration if you're running for president, but when a woman that just lost and just got
sent home, and like you said, emotions are running high.
That ain't the answer you're gonna get.
So let me, so if one of these coaches,
so if Samson, if he says that,
if Shire, if he says that,
they ask him, well you got knock-knock,
well how many final fours did you appear in?
Is that gonna be okay if a man says that?
If a man has, if a woman asked that very question to a man and he said that, what would be said, Ocho? Would that be okay if a man says that. If a man has, if a woman asked that very question to a man
and he said that, what would be said Ocho?
Would that be okay?
You know what's right?
No, it wouldn't be okay, but obviously, you know what?
Why not?
Wait, let me say something.
As a male head coach, you know what?
They probably wouldn't answer the question like that anyway.
The response would be completely different.
Even if they had been to Final Four
before it got knocked out a second time,
the way they answer the question in general,
it's just different.
It just is.
Now I'm not saying what she said was right,
but I can understand her being goddamn upset.
I don't need you addressing the question towards me,
letting me know how many times I've been eliminated.
I know that.
I just got sent home.
Yeah. But Ocho that's the thing there.
Hey, the more you invest in something, the more you invest in something,
the more it hurts when it doesn't go your way.
That's why you see a lot of times I was a very emotional player because I know
how much I put into it. So it hurt me and it bothered me when I didn't see guys.
And look, everybody take losses a different way,
but I was one of those guys considering
that I knew how much I put into it,
how much I had sacrificed, it bothered me.
But I also understood I had an obligation,
I had a responsibility because had she won,
she'd have been Kiki Kian.
Right, right, right.
Totally understandable.
Totally, totally, totally, totally understandable.
The height you are when you win, if you're 6'5", when you win,
you need to be 6'5", when you lose.
Don't go below that, because I see that a lot.
Is that when things go well, everybody wants,
hey, you got a question?
Hey, what, what? You kiki-kiki-dak.
Now when you lose, you short.
That's it? Oh, you up out of there. Nah, bro kiki-kiki like that. Now when you lose, you short. That's it, oh, you up out of there.
Nah, bro, it doesn't work like that.
Everybody wants to win, everybody can't win.
You should be gracious in victory and defeat.
So if you're bolsterous in victory,
stand up there and take it like a man,
a woman, when you lose.
That's all I'm saying, Ocho.
And she's gotten away with this for a long, long time.
Yeah, she has. And people allow her to do this.
It's kind of like, you know, I love pop, but pop was basically very disrespectful
to reporters on the sideline to say, what do you think?
I'm just asking you. I'm just trying to do my job.
Yeah. But like I said, asking you, I'm just trying to do my job. I'm just trying to do my job. Yeah.
But like I said, when you win,
people will excuse a lot of behavior when you win
that they wouldn't necessarily tolerate
from someone that doesn't win nearly as much.
That's my two cents.
That was a good one.
Haley Van Lyth was sensational.
Becker scored 40 against Oklahoma.
I mean, for TCU, not known for women's basketball.
We got a good baseball team.
Football team's been good over the last couple of years.
Right.
What about your championship?
I would, if I were you,
I wouldn't say anything about that.
Cause I got your ass 50 yard line seats
and you left it in the beginning of the third quarter.
So I would hear anything about you.
And they must be, they were getting blown out, huh?
Georgia beat them 65 to 7. Oh we
still made it. Oh I would love to go. Hey she calling me. I'm like hold on it's really quiet.
Why where are you? Oh we're on the way home. But uh but Haley Van Lyth, you know, she went to Louisville.
Yeah.
And the last time she was at Louisville,
I think Texas knocked out in the Sweet 16, right?
I think Texas locked with you that Louisville.
They got chippy, somebody said something to her
and she like, hand out my face talking to me.
You ain't finna beat me and lecture me.
That's like me, Ocho, when I'm getting a ticket.
Look, you either go give me a ticket
and let me go on my way, or you can lecture me
and not give me no ticket.
But you ain't doing both.
Both, yeah.
Hey, that's funny.
Go ahead, Ocho, what you gonna say?
Nah, I would get ready to say,
I mean, the situation you talk about,
it was, well, they in the,
what do you call it after the game?
Were you exchanging, were you shaking hands?. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Okay, I remember that I remember that that went viral
That one right here and I don't I don't I don't know if it was ever reported what was said, right?
With the Texas. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah
Yeah, and she's like
Get off me. I ain't trying to hear all that. We lost this game. I'm upset.
See?
But it should be a great game between Texas and TCU.
Hey, everything's bigger in Texas. You got two teams battling out from that state.
Only one gets to go to Tampa and play for a national championship.
And then you get Paige Buckets, the UConn lady Huskies and
they take on the lady Trojans from USC minus Juju everybody knew this was a
collision course everybody knew considering what happened last year and
we thought it would be just as good if not better because Becker's is a fully
healthy Juju's with at the top of her game. She was a Magnifico.
And unfortunately we're not gonna get that matchup.
The question is can,
Arafine, can she lead them?
Can she?
You can't look really good.
Very.
They look, they look really good, but hey,
we're about to find out.
We're about to find out if it's gonna happen.
If she can, if Becker's can, because that's the only thing left to do on her resume.
She's been player of the year.
She's been an outstanding player,
but all the outstanding players that go to UConn,
what do they get, Ocho?
National championships.
Yeah.
Your Sue Burr, your Rebecca Lobo, your Sue Byrd,
your Tarazis, your Maya Mords, the Tina Charles, the Stewies, the
Montgomery's, Paige, the only thing that's absent on her resume.
Championship is a championship.
Is a championship.
And that's how you that's how you get immortalized there.
Right.
Look, if she was at another program, Ocho, that's how you get immortalized there.
Look, if she was at another program, Ocho, that's not used to winning national championship,
she might be the best player ever, ever.
But when you go to UConn, or same thing, a Duke,
when you go to these programs and they've won
and they've had historically great players,
that's what J do is up against.
Cheryl Miller, championships, Cynthia Cooper.
That's what you're up against.
And so now this is her last chance.
The last chance.
Yeah.
It's, it's, it's going to be a tough road now.
Oh yeah, for sure.
Tough road.
It's going to be tough sledding.
Yeah.
USC ain't going gonna lay down now
because they got something to play for.
Look, everybody that counts,
man, y'all, they ain't gonna do nothing without,
they're not gonna do anything without Juju.
Juju's averaging 25 points.
We know she has 25, five and six
or whatever the case may be.
They don't believe people outside of that team
and maybe USC fans that they can get it done with her.
She's one of the two or three best players
in college basketball.
That's a huge, to take that out.
Right.
And then expect to win.
But they expect to win.
And that's all that matters.
It doesn't matter what the outside world.
We expect to win.
We know, we believe, and we played our game.
We have a chance to winning this game.
And it's going to take an outstanding game.
It's going to take that because you can to get out there defensively.
And they got a young lady that can take the game over
and shoot you out of the gym.
She can put the ball on the floor.
Now, she's not as physical as you do was, but she can stroke it from the three.
She got nice mid range game.
She could put it on the floor, go to the free throw line.
She's a very, very good player.
The only thing missing from Paige's resume,
she's been an All-American, she was a player of the year.
Championship.
Championship.
Championships.
Championship, that's what it comes down to, Ocho.
It is really that simple because that program,
you're talking about the program, you're talking about the program,
you're talking about the most storied programs
in women's college basketball, it's really two.
It's Tennessee, it is UConn.
Yeah.
Padhead Summit, Rest Your Soul, and Gino.
Yeah.
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