Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 3: NBA GM Says Donovan Mitchell IS NOT Worth MAX Contract+ WORST NBA Contracts + Q & AYYY

Episode Date: July 10, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Charles Barkley saying LeBron should end career in Cleveland, Jaylen Brunson’s Game 1 jersey sells for $1M, NBA GM says Donovan Mitchell not worth contract! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Anonymous NBA gm says Donovan Mitchell’s contract is for too much4:48 - The Worst NBA Contracts according to Bleacher Report10:16 - Q & Ayyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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LeBron tore the sleeves of his jersey. Remember how it was hanging Joe? Oh, Joe? Yeah. Oh, when they had them ugly jersey that came down. Yes, yes, yes. I remember that. And he ended up tearing it.

so it was too tight on his arms. Yeah. You know, like, hey, and I ain't like them jerseys neither. Because in basketball, it restricts you. It restricts this part, you know, from the shoulders and the bicep. You know, man, come on, man, I need some room. You know what I'm saying?

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Oh, man. An anonymous NBA, GM says, Donald McHill contract is too much. for that guy that isn't generational talent per Tim McMahon. One GM said in terms of the kind of money, you got to be a generational talent when you get $70 million range. There may be only a couple of players in the league

that are worth that kind of money. Hey. Hey, is, you know what? Go ahead, Joe. That's y'all. We talk about timing is everything. Okay, Ojo. It is.

You know, hey, this is Donovan. His time. is up and damn it this is what this is what a max contract is this is the going rate this is the going rate bro hey and he a hell of a player and to some degree I can kind of you know see what the owner is saying

but hey man it's his time bro it's his time it is I mean it used to be I mean there was a time that you know but they've always been situation where guys because I remember when John Concat got that big contract the Hawke gave him that big contract Joe

Yeah. And nobody's like, what? Yeah. Shack was like, what? All the big was like, he got what? Yeah. And so everybody, Donald is a phenomenal player. I wouldn't look, look, when you hear, when I hear generational, I'm thinking Magic Johnson.

I'm thinking Kobe. I'm thinking Shack. I'm thinking Jordan. I'm thinking Kevin Iran. I'm thinking Steph Curry, Yokic, LeBron. That's what I hear generational. Now, you got generational. And then you got transcendent.

Yeah. Transcends the sport. Yeah. You know, generation is, what, 25 years? Transcending. It's different, man. Guys that when they're done, you won't be able to tell the story of the NBA without men.

Without them? Yeah. Oh. Yeah. And it just, it's a testament to how far the game of basketball has come. Yeah. You know, think about it. man when Shaq what he signed for when he left Orlando coming to LA like a hundred

or something yeah yep yep and then you get KG up that's why they call him the big ticket because he had one of the biggest contracts ever it probably like what 115 something million like that like 122 yeah one and now hell man that's hell you can get they double in that Joe oh Joe you can get a hundred and twenty million dollar contract right now you ain't got to have no credentials behind it Christian Brown got five for 125. Come on, man. Woo.

Come on. Look at what did Monsgov get. Timof A. Monsgolf. Yeah, it's different, bro. It is. The game has advanced. They're making so much money nowadays. And when your time is up and it's time for you to get paid, the timing is right.

Hey, man. Yeah. Beet-beet-be-de-be. You just hit that damn brink. I can't begrudging. Hey, I told my mom, I tell my mom all the time, Ma, you could have waited another 10 years. you're only 25 when you had me.

My mama said, boy, I was done. They say, Mary, what you want? Boy or girl, my mama say it can be a lizard. I ain't having them all the damn kids. Game been good to me, fellas. I ain't going to like to you, boy. Yeah. I had a hell of a time.

Ocho, Joe, they say these are the worst NBA contracts per bleacher report. Joel and B is about to start a three-year, $187 million contract. Trey Young, four years, uh, 212, so basically 2.13 because it's 212.9. Paul George has two years left though at 110.7. Dearon Fox starts a four year 221.7.

Devin Booker has four years 250.6 remaining. Donovan Mitchell, five years, 323 million. Patrick Williams, three years, 15, uh, 54 million and Christian Brown five years 125 damn he he didn't boy get into that money on boy they getting him boy hey and how was Donald Mitchell don't mention might not even be 30 he might get an opportunity to get another contract Joe yeah he already didn't have a couple big ones already I mean he'd get another big one yeah hey hey hey the one thing about it man look real talk if you keep yourself in great shape and

you want the top guys, boy, you can come, hey, you can hit, you can circle a block at least two, three times. I'm talking about healthy, you know what I mean? Yes. NC Joe, you say that. Don't they see that? If you keep yourself in shape, Ocho, you can make money for a long period of time. You can extend it.

You might can get even a couple of years. And as we used to say, hey, man, I'm going to steal me a couple of years. They don't know for me. I'm going to steal me two or three. I'm telling you. Hey, that's how you guys. to look at it but you also got to mean you got to have wise people in your corner on okay ocho and i say that because when i got drafted to boston in o one the assistant

coach that i had lester connor uh he played the NBA for like 12 13 years i'm might know him i know ocho probably yeah but bro if it wasn't for him uncle and ocho giving me the game showing me the ropes you know showing me how to eat look man look you you're gonna have an appetizer which is your rookie deal then after your rookie deal shit that when you go up for your main You know you hit them cross the head. Bing, Bing. You hear me? Then, because back then, okay, Ocho, you know,

they were doing five and seven year deals. It wasn't really, no four, it wasn't no four and five and three years. Right. So you'll be locked into your deal for quite some time. So you had to get it. Yeah, so after that main course, he was like, then you come back for a little dessert, you know,

hit them across the head again. But you got to take care of yourself the whole entire time. I'm like, I'm locked in. I'm locked in. Hey, mama ain't never got to work again. We're good. Yeah. Hey, Joe, now you get these guys, they're doing these three, four year deals every three to four years.

So guy coming out, he, he, 18, 19. By the time he's 26, he done two deals. Now by the time he's 30, he's going to get ready to do a fourth deal. So it's like Joe said, they was tied to them with time guys up six, seven years. Now they got these guys, he got a, he got a three year like Joe L and B, three year 188. Yeah. Or you got four years, one, twenty, yeah. I mean, 212.

Or you got, Donovan Mitchell, five for three, uh, for 323. That's 60, yeah. That's filthy,

boy. Hey, hey, it wouldn't be nothing that, that would be able to deter me from reaching some of those goals

that I would want to reach personally. I'll be working so damn hard. I'm telling you, man, listen, that's all I can think of. I'll think about the next contract. Like, okay, cool. I ain't never got satisfied.

And when I did get paid, That's how I was, Joe. Man, that's how I was, Joe. Because, look, I ain't thinking about this. I already got this. I'm thinking about the next one. Hey, hey. Oh, Joe, we're already done signing the dotted line.

This one coming. Hello. Hello? Now, let me see three years. Hey, three years. Hey, I'm 20, I'm 24, 25. Can I get a three-year deal? Hey, hey, you're doing the numbers.

You know black folks don't play, boy. Yeah, yeah. Back folk won't do them numbers, boy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and most of the time, it takes a certain type of player, Uncle Joe, to get that main course and still had that same hunger. Ignore the money. I ain't worried about how much I'm making,

but I still want to be that same player to continue to prove myself. A lot of people get that big bag, Uncle, you've seen it, you've seen it, Joe, you've seen it, a player to get paid that good one time. Shut it out. And they fall off the play, they shut it down. I love guys. They get that big money, but they play like they broke. Yes, uh, yes.

They play like they broke. Yes. I was like, bro. I mean, if you don't admire anything else about talking Brady, all he had an accomplish, all the money he had done made, you'd swear that dude was still trying to make the damn team for the first time, oh, Joe.

Because in his mind, he still was that sixth round draft pick that everybody overlooked. And every time he went out there, he tried to prove every team that passed over him, he tried to make him pay. He did. He did. And they're respect and passion.

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All right, so, imagine old shay. on the Cowboys in the 90s, man. He'd be eating groceries and doing cocaine. Oh, man, come on. Yeah, yeah. You've been right, no, da. Them 90s was wild. Boy, they were out there.

Yeah, no, no, I don't see, I don't see, all of him partake. He's no mere Porter, she wasn't gonna be having all this. Nah, hell no. Hey, Mike, my boy. But what? But he'd have to tell me that, he had to tell me back there at practice. All right, yeah.

You were going to be, hey, hey, and he wouldn't have no problem in telling you neither. Oh, oh, oh, say, say, ooh, lad night. Dude, dude, dude. To be like the off season, we would see it like the Super Bowl. You see him and, hey, we, you know, we go out a little wet bit. Yeah. I say, but to be with this man, September, October, November, December. Oh, let me take that back.

July, because when you come back to camp. Yeah. So, in the July, August. September, October, November, December, January? No way. I don't know how they do it. I don't know how they do it. I don't know how they go out like that,

but hey, more power to them. Can I get a shout out for my hubby? It's his 42nd birthday today. Big Lou, Big Lou. Wifey says, happy birthday. You're celebrating a very special day. Happy birthday. Hopefully you guys did something really special,

really fun, and she just wanted you to know you're a main man. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Yo, Ocho. I have the rocket, the clamps, and the plug with the K-Y. Is there anything else I need? Hey, make sure, listen. Between us, it's Ocho is one, unc is two, ISO is three.

Hey, I'm not worried about my numerical order, but I'm just trying to improve the lives of everyone else outside of here that watch the show. But listen, get that swing set. You hear me? Get that swing second. The swing set could hold up to the 350 pounds. I'm not sure how big you are, but you're going to be able to get that swing set.

Don't forget the furry handcuffs so you don't mess up her wrist. He said he got the bundle, didn't he? He got the bundle? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's the deluxe package. Yeah, it's the deluxe package. If you could buy everything, you know, by itself,

or you could buy the deluxe package. Come on, man. Oh, have mercy. Yeah. Hey, oh, it's your ISO. Can you give my daughter Camara Bullard, a birthday? shout out. She's the big 2-0. And today, straight out Savannah State. Absolutely. Hey, what's up, alum? Kamara Buller, happy 20th birthday. Every birthday.

Every birthday. College by the sea, you can get anywhere from here. So, congratulations. We appreciate everything that you've done. Make the university proud. We appreciate you sending your daughter to us. And Kamara, happy 20th. Cancel twin. Thank God you got ISO to keep the freak Ocho and check. Who do you think was the better dunker? The Go MJ or LeBron? I think it's LeBron.

In game? Yeah. I think, no, MJ more creative, though. It just looks better when a smaller guy dunks. It just does. And he can fly. Yeah, I mean, but both of them got some posters. Oh, no, no, no, yeah, yeah.

You can't, I can't refute that. Hey, but, hey, when I think of, when I think of best dunkers, I also, I don't think of just power in general. I think of creativity. I think of their creativity and what they're able to do while in the air. And I mean, here, if we talk about going for power,

hell, I like Russell Westbrook when he was young. But I'm like, well, damn, who piss you off? Every dunk, it seemed like he's angry. What you mad at the rim for? He wore that chip on his shoulder. When he come to Dunkin'n. Go ahead, Joe. When he come to Dunkin, though,

hey, man, Brun and MJ got some, they got some classics, but man, that damn MJ, man. Yeah, I mean, the way he'd get up. The MJ got those two-handed, the one he dunked on Matumbo, the one he dunked on Patrick Ewing. With that, Brun.

I mean, in LaGron, we dunked no Nerkitz in New Orleans, I mean, in Portland. Yeah. He got Duncan. I mean, you know what? You probably have to, you know what it is? It probably has to be like a versus.

You take their 20 best. Yeah, yeah. And put them up against each other. You're absolutely right. Well, that'll be a good one, boy. Oh, Cho, acting pinky from Friday, both are loud and scared. Because they sail again. Hey, hey.

Play it again. Clifford and Powell on that one little episode, that one little part was that was classic. That was classic. Man, we had Michael Blakser, Michael Blitzer brought that CD back in there. That thing had a whole chunk out of it. He said, man, what happened to him?

I don't know, motherfucker. Give him my money. Hell no. Tell him. Tell him to watch his mouth. He might get hit with as hard as God would let him go. Go put GA on the map, then. Bad business, you're going out a great time.

I'm gonna see him, no, real talk. I think I'm gonna call the guy tomorrow and get Joe and our ticket. Probably Jordan, too, Joy and got to go. I have to tag you, have to drag Joy alone. But no, man, man, bro, it was, it was great. I mean, look, I understand what he's saying, but I didn't diminish him.

I mean, you could like, I mean, it's like, some people like Kobe style. Some people like, Jordan, some people like Steph and it all, it's subjective. Yeah. It's subjective is what you like. Me, I like, I like, I like, hey, I'm going to see somebody hit the floor. And I understand the objective is like, look, is the, is the hit not get hit.

But sometimes to make a fight entertaining, you got to dance. Yeah. You can't say that bad at this party was banging and you didn't even get on the dance flow. Yeah. But, but you know what the funny thing about it is? When you talk about liking some of the fighters from the old. days that took chances they had more action. They were willing to exchange, right?

And you think about the fight of the day that don't want to take those chances because it's a chance of them losing as opposed to, okay, my fans want me to take chance, but when I lose, when I lose, that loss is on me. Yeah. Not on them because they want me to entertain them, but then I lose the fight. And now that, that loss is on my record, not the fans. So, I mean, I kind of get it. I kind of get both sides, especially when it comes to you, who has watched some of the

greats fight back in the 80s. 80s and 90s and now today you don't have fighters with that kind of power that is just laying people out. Tyson spoiled us. Roy Jones spoiled us. Hagler-Herns, they spoiled us. Yeah. To where it's just not, it's just not like that anymore. You remember the Hulk, Aaron Pryor? Did he come around? Man from Cincinnati, man. What you talk about? Yeah. Yeah. That joke. Hey, Aaron Pryor was a real deal, man. Nah, I don't know. You got to watch him fight. Hey, Aaron Pryor, boy. He can go.

The Hulk? What? That joke was relentless. Relentless. Relentless. Ah, man. Them guy, hey, back then, and you know, Sweet P, but Sweet P had the head movement.

He didn't really parent, like, like, like Floyd could catch a punch and shoot. But, hey, as far as movement, but, but Sweet Pee had offense too, man. Oh yeah. Sweet P, man. You go back, that 80, that 84 boxing team, Ocho, Joe, you're the greatest boxing team ever assembled. It doesn't matter the country. It doesn't matter the year.

That 84 U.S. team with Tyrell Biggs and Henry Tillman and, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, a band of Holyfield, Sweet Pete Whitaker, Mark Breeland. Go, they won like, 13 gold medals. They won like 11 of a mocho. Damn. Mm-hmm. Think about it. You got 13.

They won like 11. Go back and look at that 84 team. That is the greatest boxing team. team ever assembled. Some people say 76 with, with, uh, with, uh, who was it? It was the Spinks brothers. It was, uh, Sugar Ray, because that was in Montreal and there was a,

Davis. I think his last, his last name is Davis, but it couldn't, it couldn't match the depth of what. And I understand Leon, you know, Leon Spink won the heavyweight title. He took it from Ali and Michael Spinks was the heavyweight champion. And we know Sugar Ray and Howard Davis. I think it's how it's how it. Y'all can look that up for me.

I think it was Howard Davis on that 7016. The Spinks Brothers, Howard Davis, and Sugar Ray. But that 84 team? Oh, my God. Nah, uh-uh. Go look at, hey, somebody said, nah, that's 76. Go look at that 814. Go look at that 84th.

Mark Breeland, Henry Tillman, Tyrell Biggs, Evander Holyfield, Sweet P. Whitaker. Who else was that? in that team on that team. That was crazy. They were crazy. That was, that was, as a matter of fact, that was the last time the Olympics was in,

in the U.S. It was in 84, Ocho, in L.A. And here we are back, 26, 42 years later, back in L.A. Oh, you got to chill, man. Every box is don't want to leave the game terminally ill in the head. I get it.

But, bro, look, my thing is, is all I'm saying, I never disparaged him and said he could fight or he wasn't a good fighter. I, I led with that. When Ocho went up, me and Ocho was talking about, I led with that. I said, but it's just not entertaining

to me. But I'm not the only one to say. I get it. I get it. I wanted a few to have a microphone, Ocho, and so somebody to have a microphone, their voice is a little louder. Louder, yes, especially coming from you. Yeah. So I don't want him, I hate that he

think that I was like taking a shot at it, be like, but it is what it is. But I what you're saying bro i get what you saying the painter is a come forward fighter he pushed the pace that's why it was good no i didn't see that fight somebody said jake paul over

shakur man jake paul way over two hundred pounds man damn hey he'll get itself pieced up too hey man man they're leveled the boxing man taylor bell says his style puts me to sleep i'm not say that but you know hey

but when you like when you see are like, I mean, from time to time they'll have championship fights, Ocho, they'll have them on X, and you'll see them. And you see like, damn, they throw it leather. Hey, hey, who was that the greatest first round ever? Oh, that was a Hagelin-Herns. Boy, hey, Joe, if you see them,

just the first round over the Hagelin-Herns, you were like, ain't no way in hell they're going to have any gas left for the rest of the fight. Boy, they were going at it, boy. It was. I mean, they were just standing totally. to throw a leather. Yeah, this one they used to throw down

back then, boy. And you could hear, you could hear those punches. Yeah. That's when they had them light-ass gloves. That's when they had them eight-ounce gloves, Ocho.

Oh, yeah. Letting them rip, boy. Up. After there's no more Y-Ns on the show. This dude's doing too much on here. He's going to get dealt with in the ring. Also, Ocho, stop eating booty. Oh.

No, man. Hey, no, look, we appreciate the guys coming on because we want to we want to highlight the sports because i love boxing and i think it took a dip because guys weren't willing to fight guys became too consumed with the undefeated record and they weren't fighting and like he said chakur said look turkey controls everything now so the money right guys and hopefully the money right guys will want to fight even though it's not a deal about the money now and they're not going to have to fight like these guys look at man look at the rams record oh joe these guys had a hundred and something fights these guys fighting

70, 80, 90 times. You're not going to find a guy to fight like that no more anymore. Hey, the money's going to be right, but they ain't going to be fighting for no damn belts. I would want to see them fight for the belt, Jocho, but if the two best men get in there, I'll take that.

Right, right. I'll take that. Considering it's been so long that, because a lot of times when the heavy weights fall, they don't have no damn belts. Yeah. Because normally you had to fight somebody to move up the picket order to get in line to be able to fight somebody that had a belt. Yeah.

Bro, go fight tank and then we can talk. He talked about, he's talking about Shakur. He said that's who he wanted to fight. He listed fighters. He listed Tank. He listed Hayney. He listed Russell. And he listed Lamont Roach.

He said those are the four fights that he would like to make. And one of those guys he would like to fight before the years out. He fought earlier. He fought Tiofimo, Ocho. I think it's January that he fought Tiafimo. And so that's plenty of enough time. Yeah. To recover,

to be able to recover and to go fight. Because he didn't take no damage. He put it on Tiafimo. That was crazy. But Ocho, you said you like to see him fight Lamont Roach. Joe, you said you like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Simply because, yeah.

And Joe said he liked to see him fight Haney. Hainey, yeah. I didn't want to see him fight. If long, if, Listen, if long as Haney, as long as Haney ain't on his bicycle. He's gonna,

you, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, would he be on that bicycle, you know, backing up, backing up, backing up, backing up,

backing up, backing up, backing up, backing up, backing up, back and up, back and back and up, back and up. Throw a punch. Backing up, backing up, back and up.

You know, I understand, I understand fighting smart and being strategic in the way you fight. Uh, just, somebody say, this is the most fighting

I've ever seen Shakur do. Uh, Taylor Bell said, he avoids all big fights. Well, look, he has a, he's in the Zuffer, Zufa, and he says, you know, hey, fights can be made. Yeah.

We're going to see. We've heard this before, Ocho and Joe. Yeah. We'll see if they're going to make the fights the people want to see. Don't seem like belts are important anymore. But I think the thing is, you tell me, look, you can fight for a belt for seven, eight million, or you can fight for without a belt for 1520,

I think they're going to take the 1520. All day long. What? You need to be in Tank Corner to promote that fight with Shakur. Look, that'll be a huge. I mean, all these guys, but Tank Shakur, you think that'll be the biggest, biggest of the four?

What? Man, hell, yeah. I think people have to understand. Listen, even with Tank troubles. Tank is, it will still be considered to face the boxing. Even with him getting in trouble. Some people might say it's Conello. Some people might say it's Bud.

Well, Bud, no. Tank can still out an arena by himself. Bud, Bud was the face and retired. Yeah. Tank can sell out a stadium by itself, Joe. Huh? Man, he'd be fighting a teddy bear. He's going to sell the arena out.

Let me ask you a question, Joe. Oh, Joe. What do people like about Tank so much? That goddamn power you got. and somebody going to sleep nine times out of 10. Hey, hey, you're going to sleep if you go out there, wow. But if you like roach and you stay technical sound from the middle sound, you can take his ass in distance.

Yeah, hey, styles win fights, Joe. Because you definitely got to watch that, because he got dynamite in that left hand and he catch you with that uppercut or that hook. Yeah. Mm-hmm, yeah. Like he called Garcia. Man, who did a pit bull?

He caught pit bull in that corner of with that uppercut, Ocho. Mm-hmm. Oh, no, he caught Frank Martin. Yeah, Frank Martin. He's like, man, Frank Martin, that head like Rock'em Sock and Robot. Y'all remember that Rock'em's Cocker Robot

that red, that blue with it? Yep. Once you got his head loose, man, that joke would barely judge you the head. Like, damn. Well, you got some power, boy. I sold that homeboy that'd be quiet when he gets shaky, but he got that fire on him.

Yeah, yeah. Hey, in the cut, just checking it, just checking it out. Just seeing what you're going on. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Shakur, my favorite fighter, but he's been having animosity award for almost a year or nine,

and you can tell he still feels that way. Yeah. Yeah. Because the thing was, all I said was, it's not entertaining. He brought up my situation. What that got to do with my opinion of you're not entertaining to me?

You might be entertaining to 15,000, 15 million people. I'm one person. Hey, you know what? When it comes, regards to boxing, not even Shakur. When it comes to sports, we all have an opinion on everybody we watch. Everybody's not going to like you. Some people are, some people are, but everybody's going to have an opinion. Hey, honestly, that was, that made the show tonight to me.

Hey, listen, y'all, I don't know if we're going to be able to kill two hours with the topics we had, guys. And I didn't expect him to stay on that long. But I kind of, you know, in talking, kind of where he kind of wanted to go. He wanted to get to that point about me saying that he wanted to hear it. You can hear it in his voice. Like, I could tell he was ready to get, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.

And so I was like, okay, oh, you know, I swat through it to Ocho. And you know, I was like, well, damn, you got it. I was like, well, it's back to me. I said, oh, look, here we go. And then you're like, well, let me ask you. You know, when they say, let me ask you something, Joe and Ocho, you already know. You already know what's coming. That was good.

When they say that's good for TV, that's good. That was great for what we do. What's up, nightcap, fam, MMA, UFC is way better than a simple fact, the best fight the best. I'm still waiting on Fury versus Joshua in boxing. I think they're supposed to fight. Don't they got a fight coming up, Joe, Ocho? Tyson, fewer, Anthony Joshua. I think they got a fight coming up.

Yep, not scheduled, but I think they agreed to fight. Yeah, but it would have been a lot better if this was about two, three years ago, though. Listen, and you're there for heart-wrenching knockouts. The world's biggest stage. And breathtaking triumph. In 2026 FIFA World Cup, the knockout stage. Every match, every moment. Listen on TSN radio.

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potentially November. But it also hinges on both fighters winning their tune-up matches in July. Yeah. So, boy, that'll be... They won't win them tune-ups. That's going to be a monster fight. But it is.

But I think... But I think, oh, And Joe, I do think that's why the UFC, because Dana White not gonna let you duck. You can't have no belt. You ain't ducking nobody. You're not. Yeah.

And you hold that belt for, if you can hold on to a belt for a period of three years, because man, anything can turn the lights out of a fight. Yep. Quick. Guys be winning the whole, and then boom, get caught with something and it's over.

The whole part of it. short circuit. But I do think, I do think that has a lot to do with the rise of the UFC and the fall of boxing. Hopefully boxing is coming back because we did get, we got Bud and Canelo.

It's the same thing we said about Pachial Mayweather. We probably got that about five years too late. Yeah. We take it. But what could have been? Or maybe what should have been? Right. Ungain respect.

He told Mayweather 2.0 He felt like he didn't walk it back. Shakur ain't like that. Tate getting him out of here. Look, I think it's going to be a great fight. I want to see it. We're going to be there. If they fight, we are going to be there.

Definitely going to that. Because I saw Bud and, well, Ocho, you and I went to the, the Bud, Canelo fight. And then I went to the, Bud Spence fight. Right. Oh, you was there for that? Yeah.

Man, I feel, I feel bad that fight. Man, he did. Ooh, I feel, man. Man, it was worse in person, Ocho. You ain't, boy, listen, you got to tell me. I wasn't as close as we were for the Bud Canello fight. Coach, you know, we about eight rows, about six rows back.

Oh, yeah. Any for the fight, but any for the fight, though? Who? Yeah, he fight, he fight Tim Zhu. When, when, Ojo? Is it July? A, chat. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What is that fight? It's coming up. It's coming up real soon, Joe. It might be July. Wait, I think July 25th or July 22nd. I could be wrong. Yeah. But it's coming up.

It's coming up. You play football, you play basketball, you play baseball. You don't play boxing. If you know, you know. No. You don't play any, you don't play any. what of that combat sport i mean boxing m mhmai or whatever the case may be no no no no no no no no no no no and the thing is that's one-on-one is it ain't no ain't no time out no ain't no give me a break ain't no getting me a

break ain't no resting when the ball on the other side of the field ain't no ain't no none of that You can't check nobody in for you. Hey, Ocho, hey, man. Hey, get into O'A. You like wrestling, you be tagging in? Hey, yo, Ocho, hop over the top rope. Hey, ain't none of that. Hey, hey, hey, you're talking about mental toughness, bro.

You got to have it. Ooh. You got to have it. That's a, I mean, you got to think about that, bro. I mean, think about it. I mean, that's a fight. I mean, we're fighting in football, Ocho, but you know, sometimes, hey, sometime, Ocho, we just running off.

I ain't blocking nobody. I'm just going to release outside. you chase me down the field. Now, sometimes I got, hey, I got, Joe, I got to lock up. Yeah. Yeah. And this right here,

you got to be laser focused for 36 minutes. One mistake. One mistake. And they're short- change everything. Yeah, like, ugh. Nah,

court needs to respect this elder. He's good, man. He good. We good. What a big three entertaining segment. Y'all going to have all three. He would have fights your core at the same time,

night camp outside. Now, Ocho, Ocho say you want that sparring work. Yeah, I'm gonna go in there. Y'all, yeah, we gotta, we gotta film that too. Man, okay. Ocho, go ahead. Huh? He gonna get the best of me, Joe, but I mean, you,

it's one thing for me to say it, but when you, when you see, you be like, okay, now I see why you do all that talk. But Joe, Ocho, so he's doing that, so you get scared, you don't want none of this. That's what he doing that for. Who ain't gonna want none? Man, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, knee high to a duck's ass.

What he gonna do with me, huh? It man can't do that with me? Okay. What, how you got to do with it? Your little bit of ass, you're gonna, that's why I'm trying to, man, listen. Hey, you know who else is big? You know who else is big?

Goliath? And what happened? What David did to do? Oh, you were talking. God didn't touch you, God don't tell you what you're gonna do, huh, Ocho. Yeah, I'm gonna touch his ass. Hey, I got it all.

Hey, I got it all, man, he got to worry about God, So I'm gonna touch his ass. That's what he needs to worry about. Yeah. That way he needs to worry about. You're talking about God. You need to talk about Joe.

Yeah. Hey, Joe. Hey, you keep on talking, but you're gonna be on here with two black eyes, right? All right. What's up, Nightcap, fam? Today was my wife's birthday.

Portia Seals, Catledge. Give her a shout out. Please love you guys so much. Un. Number one, we all know it. Come on, bro. There we go. Hubby said he wanted his birthday.

Happy birthday, Porsche. Happy birthday, Porsche. She was Cadillage. Today was her birthday guy. She's celebrating her birthday. And a hubby wanted to give her a shout out. Say, you know what? He said, look, ain't nobody going nowhere.

He said, you going to be with her? She going to be with you? Mm-hmm. Or we're going to be together. Those are the only three choices we got. Now, which one is going to be? You be with her, she be with you, y'all be together. Portia, you got to keep her.

Yes, sir. Would you say the fact a starter hasn't been named yet is proofs your doer is legitimate shot at winning the job? Forget the money. Todd coaching for his job. Yeah. I didn't think, I didn't, me personally, Ocho, I didn't think they was going to name one until they get to the training camp.

Now, they might already, we know how that is. They already got the guy they won't start. Yeah. But they just played. That's just me. That's what I think. But why I've been hearing, All these trade rumors, what should do, though?

I don't believe it. Ain't, ain't nothing happening. He ain't going nowhere. All right. That's just me. I don't believe it, Joe. I don't. Well, I guess we're going to be back in the same.

Let's just say for the sake of argument, you do trade. Let's just say it came true. In that case, you're going to be looking for another quarterback next year. Because I don't think any of us believe that Deshaun is going to be there. So now, are you saying you got the quarter, you got your quarterback? They got your guy, or Joe from Air. Arkansas. Oh, yeah, green.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you say that's your guy. I mean, at some point in time, at some point time, we've got to stop the, the, the carousel and just, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, ride, ride it. At some point in time, we can't, I mean, you can't, I mean, you can't keep playing musical chairs at the quarterback position, you know, Joe, Joe, you got to have stability there.

The hard part is finding somebody to be, you know, finding that quarterback to be stable. Yes. And you can't, okay, you go a couple of games and he doesn't play well and they booing and then you snatch him out. Sometimes you got to ride through turbulent waters. Everything ain't going to be smooth sailing.

I think sometimes we fall in love and they think everything's going to be smooth. It wasn't smooth for Brady. It wasn't smooth for Manning. They were a run first team. The first couple of students, Super Bowls that Tom won, they were a run first team.

They evolved to a throw team. Right. It's, hey, man, when the infrastructure ain't right, Ocho. No. I'll give it the, hey, it's hard to put a quarterback out there that even if he is good, hell, you won't see it.

No. No. I lie to New York Jets. Do you guys think LeBron wants to move his family back to the East Coast when he has a lot going on on the West Coast. I'm not so sure that his family would move. Zuri is in school.

Savannah has what she has going on. I think LeBron's mom, she has a place, you know, she still has a place in Akron and she got to play. I think she has a place out in L.A. I'm not sure. But I don't know if he would up root his family. Yeah, I don't think so neither, man. I mean, considering the fact that. Zuri's in volleyball and she's in school.

She has her activity. She has her stuff. I don't think he would. But hey, we'll see. We'll see. And wherever he goes, Ocho, the state probably won't be no more than two years, if that. You know what I mean?

Right. So I don't see that neither. Right. Yeah, because if you think about it, everywhere else, I mean, we knew he was going to be in, we knew he was going to be in Miami for four years. Yeah. He went back to Cleveland.

We know he's going to be there for four years. And then, go to L.A. and he kept he kept you know two plus one two plus one two plus one two plus one so

I know then it was one plus one we want to thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap we want to thank our very very special guest a four division champ Shakur Stevenson joins us he joined us Zufa boxing league that's the league

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He gave us four names, Devin Haney, Tank Davis, Lamont Roach, and Gary Russell. Those are the names that he wanted to fight. Hopefully one or these fights can come to fruition, and we get a good fight. That would be awesome. So y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite, my partner and co-host. That's the Liberty City legend. That's the bingo.

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It is. Yeah, yeah, it just came out. I'm looking at the... Now over there right now. Yeah, all 22-sum. Just came out. Hey, oh, oh, and you know, AJ DeBoskin, Darren Peterson played against each other tonight. Yeah, I saw what you called him.

He went to the hole, the bond, and flushed it hard. Yeah, he had, he had 27, DeBonsk had 27, Peterson had like 22, 23. Oh, look, it's gonna be one of those where they go back and forth for years and years to come, Joe. It is. It's been great if they were in the best book

in the Western Conference, so that no, we're gonna get them up fourth time a year at least. year at least. Right, right, right. But I think it's going to be a hell of a battle between them two for years to come. You're right. I mean, two great young talents, bro. Like, I don't think, I don't think they got it wrong. I know Peterson had them first couple games in Summer League and everybody was talking about how he should have been the number one pick. But here, you hadn't seen AJ. You know what I mean? Like these people. They saw him tonight. Them boy can go, man.

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