Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 3: Top 5 favorite Samuel L. Jackson roles, Poor Memphis accommodations

Episode Date: April 6, 2026

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means. We'll tell you what it means and who really wins. Open your free IHeart radio app, search 40s and free agents, and listen now. All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Hey. Yeah. I got a wait for the graphic to go. Okay. Uh-huh. Hey, Joe. What's that in? Hey, Unk? Yes. What do you call a lamp that says please and thank you? A lamp. Yeah, what do you call a lamp that says please and thank you? A lamp that says please and thank you. It was going to be something off the wall too. Nah, it ain't off the wall.

I know Joe, but I can't say. What you go? L-I-T-E. Now, he cheated. He's looking at the chat. No, George told it. Oh, he did? Oh, yeah.

All right, I got one for tomorrow. Before we get to our superchats, we've got five video voicemails from our Discord. Let's take a listen to the first one, guys. Uncle, Ocho, Joe, what's up? Juan, the CEO from Chicago, man. I've been a fan since day one. Keep doing what y'all doing. Congratulations on the 2 million organic subs, man.

Continue to do y'all work. But this here is for Ocho. Ohcho, you said you was going to have a new setup in a new game room two months ago, and you still ain't did it. So go on here and let's see. Where's the game room, man? Where's the game room? Well, I tell you, I tell you what, since you're rushing the game room,

how about you send me the second half of that balance that I owe him, and I can get the goddamn bitch finish? How about that? You send me that 20,000, boy? We'll go ahead and get the same finish. You ain't got the first part, 50. What'd you mean the second? have we here it did ish oh no no you know you got you got to send a deposit first

what's in the deposit yeah to get the materials and then once they come out you know so it's always i got other important things i got to take oh cho oh cho oh cho you say that's if it's a lie you told it you said in two months this thing was going to be done now if you're lying then or you lying now now which is well shit i'm always lying so i don't i don't hey hey hey hey Hey, Joe, I don't remember what I said last time. Honestly. But he could send me that extra $20,000 and send them folk, though.

Ocho, look at me. I had to get mine done, Ocho. Hey, but you're about to get his done. And I promise you, it costs a lot more than 20. No, I call you. No, it's 42 for what I got. I sent you the video. You saw that rendering from that video? No, no, no.

I want to see the rendering. I want to see the finish. No, that's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about what got to be done. Yeah, I get it. Yeah, hey, that shit crazy, Unk. Ocho. It's crazy.

You got it. Go ahead and put the money down. I know, hey, uncle, hey, listen, I like it coming in. I don't like it going out, honestly. But you do want to say you got these 15-11 jobs. I do. I do. It's good to see that thing stack up, Unk.

I just don't like to see it going out. But you do know that's a part of how it stack up. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's going to keep. Keep stacking, though, baby. Huh? Can we, I mean, I mean, Joe, like, Joe's like, Hey, Joe say, hey, I'm going to hook mine up on.

Hey, hey, Joe, Joe looked like he in the goddamn, uh, uh, uh, psych ward or something. No, man, I'm in my, I'm in my room. I'm rearranging some stuff around here, but I bet your mind will be done for, oh, Joe. I bet you won't bet none. Yeah, I bet you'll bet. Let's bet.

Bet. Bet. Hey, hey, my, mind for to be stated at all, Joe. Matter of fact, Joe, let me send it to you what it's going to look like, Joe. All right. Joe. Hold up. What good is that would you not paying the money?

All the renderings. Oh, Joe, you know what, Ocho? I'm going to see you a rendering or this house that I'm never going to get. I want you to see it, boy. That's a bad, Joe. Hey, no. Hey, honestly, I think I kind of, I bit off more than I could chew, getting all that expensive shit and then realizing what it really costs.

And I just don't want to see a lead that account. I ain't even allowed to you. You know how I am. Oh, Cho. All you got to do is get a couple of things. shelves shelf yes did you see that hey where ass yeah you don't have to get that rendering

okay that's too much that's top of the line scale it down yeah i'm i'm gonna scale it down on i'm gonna scale it down but it jay hey joe it had a light dog joe that shit was unbelievable man hold i'm gonna send it to you joe you can be like golly no he ain't gonna say that he said i knew you lying when i saw i don't do you a line i know you was lying i know you was I know you lying too.

Nah. This thing nice, boy. What's wrong with it? Hey. But this is your work spot, Ocho? Don't you want your work spot to look nice? Hey, I'm going to get it too.

I'm going to fit to get it. Now, don't worry about me, baby. One thing about it, I'm going to make you proud now. Man, Joe already said. You don't look like a waffle, so let me get them things scattered the dice. Let me say, it looked like what?

Let me get them ass and scatter the dice. It looked like. you got a Waffle House sign back there. Here's our second one. Let's take a listen what this young man had to say. Hi, guys. Congratulations on 2 million subs and happy Easter. My first question is for you, Shannon.

Shannon, I was wondering, how can I get my bottles of La Portier autograph? And my second question is for you, Ocho. Ocho, are you going to bring your podcast the last run to Atlanta for the World FIFA Cup. And my last and final question is for you, Joe. Would you ever consider going on Club Shay Shay? We know how much Shannon's grandma meant to him, and we know how much Ocho's grandma and mom meant to him, too. And we got to see Ocho and his mom in action on TV. I can tell that you adored your mom, and I would love to hear more stories about you and her. You are now my favorite hawk of all times.

And I can't wait to see you on clip, Shay. And happy Easter and good night, guys. Man, listen. There y'all want me on there crying and all that. That's my story, man. Yeah, Joe, I'd be on here crying all the time. Yeah, I got some unpacked stuff that I ain't never had to unpack, man. I don't know what I'm going to make it.

Hey, that's the best place to unpack it, Joe, just bring you some tissue. You know, talking about my mama and, you know, my grandma and, man. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead and let it out, Joe. I'm here, you know, I'm a therapist too. I got my license, man. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Hey, it'll happen in due time. We ain't got to rush there. We ain't got to rush there. It happened when it's, yeah, yeah. We thought it was, I'm sorry, we thought it was a gentleman, it was a lady, so. Yeah, yeah. So she won't up, she want a report eight bottle sign?

Yeah, you got to have to wait until I come back to Atlanta. and it looks like I don't know this year I'm trying to figure out how she got to because they don't come in the box anymore yeah I'm not mine ain't coming up like that huh you're just what I'm saying so you probably you probably came when I was in Atlanta

because I've been Atlanta like five six bottle signing because the box that she had on show we don't we don't make that box anymore she got the original OG box she probably got it way back then Yes, yes, yes. So you're going to, when I come, when we come back to Atlanta, you're going to have to show up, you have to show up at a siding and get it signed. Yeah, I'm going to have a problem doing. I'm going to show up to here. I'm going to show up to here. I'm going to show up to here. I'm going to show up to myself. Joe, you know, I'm going to drag down there's a bottle. I'm going to mean. Oh, Joe, that you try to sell that bottle. That you're going to keep it as a souvenir, huh? You know what I mean?

Hey, Ocho, he's like something, he got a jersey side and he out there shooting hoops in the jersey and it got signed. Hey. Here's our third one. Let's take a listen. Joe, so what's happening in?

It's your boy, Raj. I just want to say this real quick for Ocho. Hey, man, you're a legend. You hear me? You know what I'm saying? And if you look in the NFL today, you see a lot of Ocho, you feel me. People customizing their cleats. Ocho made that cool.

People wearing grills, Ocho made that cool. People celebrating touchdowns. Ocho made that cool. Did he pause that's it? Everybody froze? Yeah, looked like it. What did you mean? I ain't froze.

Oh, the video froze. But he said, Ocho, you need to get kudos because a lot of things that we see in today's receivers are doing from the grills to the customization of shoes. Yes, sir. You were at the forefront of that. Yeah, I was, hey, Joe, I was a little pioneer, Joe. Yeah, I agree. I agree. You know, I ain't really think about it like that. I was just, you know, trying to, trying to express myself in another way.

You know, that's all. That's all. The NFL didn't take, then take kind to it, you know. They took my money from me. I didn't mind because, you know, I'm not playing for the money. It's good to be playing at a high level where you get paid to do what you. you love. That's not the sole reason why I'm here. You hear me, Joe? Yeah. And I think what really piss the NFL off, Joe, is they couldn't control me by taking

my money because that's the one way they keep them niggas in line. Oh, shoot. My bad. My bad. The one way they know they can keep us in line is by using money as an initiative to take away from us. Yeah. To make sure we behave.

But it didn't work with me so there was no way to control me. Sorry, my bad. My bad for the end. Hey, you just love you just love. you just loved expressing yourself. Hey, Joe. Love, Joe. Love.

And if I can do it again, I ask some moat to it if I could do it again. Yeah. Yeah. Fourth one, let's take a listen. What's up? Uncanoto and Iso. What's going on?

I just got a quick question for y'all. You know, I'm a big Marvel fan. You feel me? So, and Unk, I see you always wearing these superhero shirts. So I just want to ask, if y'all can pick, one superpower one superpower to have what would it be

and would you be a superhero or a supervillain and why? What you're choosing, Ocho? Hey, being able to tell a future, huh? Hey, I want to be I want to be able to tell a future Uncle Joe simply because I just want to play

the lotto and I want to know what the number's going to be okay and when I win I want to win the billion dollars right and I'm going to take half, I'm going to get but five 500 maybe 600 600 million yeah you feel me I'm gonna give I'm gonna give each one of y'all a hundred million a piece right yeah then I'm gonna give you know those I have kids from I get them paid maybe 10 million a piece you know you know I'm gonna give my kids though right huh you're gonna walk the kids though right hey they got to give me them kids um they got to give me them kids I want custody all my

kids and we're gonna go live our own little life I'm a bill bill a house that I'll just I'm gonna go crazy for us but I want us I want I want to one tight unit. And the kids go get grown and move out of that house. You're going to be stuck in that big ass house by yourself. Nah, now, listen, this house is going to be so big. It's going to have a northeast and southwest end.

But don't you? They want to live their own life. They don't want to be stuck up under your ass forever. It'll be big enough. They can live their own life. You see how Busy built one house and got houses for everybody else? Yeah. I want to do that.

But on a much grander scale. Yo, what's your superpower? I think it, it minds would, I would want to be able to read people's minds or be invisible. Invisible? Invisible. Yeah. To where you couldn't see me. I'd be in the room, but you ain't know I was in there.

So you want to see if people be talking issue about your hot, Joe. Yeah, there we go. There we go. I want to see what going on, huh? Well, you don't think I'm there, but I'm sitting right there. You know what I mean? Hey, like a, uh, uh, like a, what was that?

Ghost. Yeah. What did you call it? Oh, that was a good movie. Where Patrick Swayze? Where Patrick Swayze was in the room? That was a hell of a movie, that boy. That was a good movie, boy.

All right. What would I want? Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I like that reading of mind. But I don't know, probably. Because my favorite superhero is the Hulk, and all he has is strengthened. So I probably won't.

I kind of like you, Joe. I kind of like read people mine. Yeah. But you know what I want to read the mind? I want to be invisible. You would want to? I want to be invisible. Yeah, I want to be invisible.

It hit a little different on the man. Hey, they want to be invisible. That's too sneaky for me. Yeah. That's too sneaky. I just want to see the future. I want to know what's going to happen before it happens. That's all.

Nah, hell, no, man. I don't try to live like that. Nah. Didn't the man tell you he can't let you know when your appointment is? Because you're going to live a certain way. Yeah, but see, yeah, yeah. You're going to try to get right.

He's going to try to get right like a month, two months before his time. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't really think about it. Man, where on your hat? Okay, I ain't going to be a due nightcap. I got to be in church. Ah, shh. He got the Holy Ghost.

He preached, Joe. Yeah, yeah. I already do it. Hey. All right, our fifth and final wall. There it is. Let's take a listen. Unk, Ocho, ISO.

Good evening from Broward County. Not too far from Ocho right now. I just wanted to express how proud I am of all of you, especially you, Unk. I've been a dedicated fan since probably 2018. I've been watching you five days a week for the past eight years. Ever since then, back when you was on Undisputed with Skip, every day I was always watching, even when your contract,

even when your contract ended with Fox, I was anticipating your next move, waiting to see where he was going to go, and club Shayshay happened, nightcap happened. I don't even remember when Nightcap happened. I just know that I was there for the first episode. That's what's up, man.

Appreciate that, man. I really, really appreciate that. The support that I got from going on undisputed and being on there for seven years and building a fan base, and then, you know, people started the nightcap, not nightcap, club Shay-Shay and building a fan base there and moving over to ESPN for the two years I was there. I'm Luke Wilson. Join me each week for Film Never Lies. Since retiring from the NFL, I've had a lot of my mind, and now got my own show.

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And yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man. You can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games, no, you know, doing this, doing whatever. And of course, family stories. They'll be like, Mommy, why did you miss that? Mommy, do you play basketball? Check out Game Recognized game with Stoian Miles on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Daniel Jeremiah.

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From my draft evaluations, mock drafts, and team fits. To my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built, cap space, contracts and all the tough decisions included. You got quarterbacks on the move. We got teams rebuilding. It's hope season. Yeah, absolutely. It's hope season.

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and then we finally found a guy that settled in and Joey just picked right up, and this has been amazing. I can't thank you guys enough because you guys make it as possible whether there's nightcap club, Shaysaw or whatever platform I'm on, the success that we get to enjoy on said platform is all because of you guys. And, bro, I can't thank you enough,

so I appreciate your support. I really, really do. Boss man, hey, we need a mighty mouth. John Jones and a Ray Loo. on club Shoshay. Also, I'm 28 starting Muaytai tomorrow. Any advice? I'm nervous and excited.

Hell no, no, no moretai. Hey, I know, I know about more. I know about multi-on. What'd you know? Man, being what I know, man, Joe. Joe, look at me, Joe. Okay, I see you bounce. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you know what I. I know what I. Wait, what? Oh no, hey, I know a little, I know a little somebody at Motai 9. Like for real, when it comes to combat, hey Joe, you gonna see, wait to like, wait, not

when I get in the ring with you, because I really whoop your ass, but wait till I getting there with one of the real boxes. You're gonna be like, what the hell? This thing can really hang. I'm gonna teach you to stop playing with me and my name, but I'll tell you right now. I ain't the one. You hear me? Hey, Joe.

Hey, boy. And you might be six, eight, boy, but when I'm done what you're going to be. gonna be by 5.8. You hear me? I'm gonna bring him down here with me. Hey, hey, speaking of combat sports,

Unk, boy, you've seen, uh, Geron Ennis and Zanda Zayas for the fight? Uh, I,

I heard that. Ooh, hey, June 27. Damn. Yeah, the press conference April 8th. Okay.

That's a good. What are they fighting that? Man in Brooklyn. Hmm. That's going to be a good one, boy. Yeah. Sam LeGrand.

Hey, I saw how many times have people told you that you and Andre Johnson favor? Since you and Ocho are supposed to scrap and just make sure you don't have doing bad as Andre did, Cortland Finninginigan. I'm going to do them just like that. I just know Ocho sitting there listening all them injuries thinking,

y'all just need to eat Ronald McDonald. Man, listen, you know, that was a good question. The funny part about it is, this is a while back. Man, I hung out with Andre Johnson and everybody always say we look like. I think the scariest thing is we got the same mannerisms, Uncle Ocho.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Quiet. Yeah, but don't. Hey, you see, if you pissed Andre off, you see what happened, don't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want you to know, Ocho. Yeah, I'm going to treat you just like that boy he did.

He ragged all him out there. Yeah. Yeah. You think so? You think so, Joe? Yeah. But now, Drey, a good dude, though, Uncle Ocho. Y'all already know that.

Yeah. He was once a Jordan brand athlete. We both was on the brand. So I got a chance to kick it with him a few times, but super cool dude. And if I had to say anything, do we probably look like a little bit yet? But I think our mannerisms are...

Manorism, yes. Yeah, yeah, they're the same, pretty much. Got damn, drag. Kevin, non-delusional cowboy fan. Hey, uh, and Joe, leave my man Ocho alone. He ain't the only, he ain't the only freak on the show. Hey, what he said? He said, you're not the only freak on the show.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, no, I'm not saying that Ocho is, but Ocho take it too far. Yeah. What you? He just ain't got to win me. I'm not, I'm not doing nothing that's not in the Bible. It's in the Bible.

I got a question for you right here, Uncle Joe. I got to go in. I know. you're going to know this answer. What chapter come before James? What chapter in the Bible come before James? LeBron. Hey!

That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about, baby. Let's go. Oh, Joe, you go too far. I think the thing is Joe and I, because we got limits. Yeah, we like, hey, we enjoy our partner. And you know, hey, hey, baby, yeah, we want me. Yeah, but you know.

Nah, nah, nah. Ain't no limits. Ain't no limits when it come to having a partner, Unk. You need to explore. You need to experiment. When you go deep sea diving, when you go deep sea diving, it's about searching all of the ocean or what you can be and what you can't search for

until you got to come up for oxygen. That's what y'all need to do, all right? I need both of you. Whoever you dealing with, whoever you're talking to, I need them to take you to the depths of the goddamn abyss and try some new shit. Man, hey, hey, we have, telling you.

Hey, we have tons of funds over here, man. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all, hey, chat, now y'all know. Y'all know, y'all know, oh, y'all know, hey, good time don't own, no, up, nothing. Good time don't own, no, up, nothing. I mean, side the highway, you know, I don't have been, you know, hey, the pool side of the road, it rained.

Yeah, see, no, I see, that's old, man. We got to graduate August 2026. There's so many different things we can be doing that. Like, just listen to me. Listen to me. I'm trying to get y'all boys like to that next level. There's levels to everything. And the level y'all at level two.

I need you to get to level eight. I can't tell you. Because see, if I tell y'all, y'all going to know it's me. But there was somebody with a ski mask on the balcony a couple of months ago. I just said, I'm just saying. I just said. I ain't said it was me, but there was somebody. You know what I'm just saying.

He had a steam ass on. He about 20, he's about 20 folds up. I'm like, dang. I wouldn't somebody know that with me. T.S. T.S. Carwice Detail service. Be my attorney and defend me like you do,

Brown. Them Lakers not getting out of the first round. Let's keep it real. Ocho, who had better feet than Doug Ballwood? Isso, who's the hardest post? to guard, be my attorney and defend me. Oh, that's easy. Hey, did you do it? Even if you didn't do it, I can get you off.

That's the job. I mean, you make my job easier when you didn't do it. You know what I'm saying it's easy to defend somebody, but you know what? A lot of times, they don't even ask you, because they don't want to know. Right. They don't want to know.

They don't want to know. No, bro. So let me ask you a question. So if I took Shea, Chet Holgren, and Jalen, off the O'KC, are they getting out of the first round? So if I took Yokic,

Jamar Murray, and Aaron Gordon off the Nuggets, are they getting out of the first round? Yeah, I'm not. If we take, I'm going to take Jason Tatum, I'm going to take Jalen Brown, and I'm going to take Pritchett off the Celtics. Are they getting out of the first round? So let's just say this.

I'm going to take the two best players of any team. So that's going to be Shee, and Jalen. I'm going to take J.B. and J.T. I'm going to take Yokic and Murray. Champ, who's getting out of the first round?

None of them. None of them. So I'm just trying to figure out what you mean. That just goes to show you how great LeBron is because you expect these super human feet from a 41-year-old. That's all they know. That's how great he is.

That's how you knew how great Tom Brady was. because what? We were expecting things from a 42, 43 year old that we didn't expect from anybody else. We never expected a quarterback in his 40s to play like Brady. We expect LeBron James in year 23.

First of all, nobody has ever played 23 season. Nobody has played as great as he did in your 18, 19, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23. No, so. The expectation level that we have for that. That's what greatness is. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Ocho, who had better feet than Doug Baldwin. A lot of people had better feet than Doug Baldwin.

I think Doug Baldwin is a phenomenal player. Yeah. He ain't got feet like Ocho. He ain't got feet like Devonte Adams. He ain't got feet like Lloyd. Yeah, I think they just look at the clips of some of the stuff he's done in short and intermediate routes. But he has very, very good great feet and condensed place running short routes.

I think that's what they're mistaken. I mean, if that's the case, you might have put Hunter Winfro in there as well. Yes. I mean, we had, I mean, Devonty. Oh, what's the Ladd-McConkey? Oh, yes, another one. I mean, my feet were great regards to what area

the feel I was in, whether it was short, whether it was long, routed 20 yards. Either way, I'm running full speed and I'm stopping on the dime. It's a difference. You can't even compare the two, but he's really, really, really good. I don't think his feet better

than Keena McCardo, Jimmy Smith. Oh, let me, let me, you know what, matter of fact, let me, let me throw Stevie Johnson in there too. Yes. I think Stevie's feet were better than mine. What he's able to do off the line, I still ain't seen nobody do that to this day. Mm.

I think Steve might have been a little bigger than you, too, Ocho. Yeah, he talked about six-four. Steve was tall. He was tall and twitchy his hair. For him to move like that in that size? Man, he would twitchy, boy. What was the, what was the question? He said, who is the hardest in the post to guard?

In the post? Yeah. Mello. Damn, he was. Mello just relentless, bro. He's like a bull. He's like, it ain't even just a post,

but he posted up a lot, mid post, low post, you know what I mean, high post. Like, he was one dude who posted up quite a bit. The guy who really brought the ball up the court a lot, he was a great half-court set guy, meaning like you throw it to him, he catch it. He's going to get to his spot.

I think he was a whole guy. I think he was the hardest post player to guard, bro. You hear that a lot. A lot of people said that about Mello. Yeah, yeah. Because look, his mid-range was automatic. So he hit you with that jab. He probably had the best jab step I ever seen in the game or hoops.

You know what I mean? With a jump shot, man, that's hard to stop, bro. I like that move, Joe, that Mello do. When he got the ball and he had put that shoulder into you and come back just to create a little bit of space. Yeah. And that bitch going all, every goddamn time. Yeah, hey, I got that move in my repertoire.

So imagine you guard me and I hit you with that shoulder. I hit you with that shoulder. Oh, you got that too? Come on, man, I got a little bit of everything in my game. What you're stopping? Hey, but Joe, I know how to stop it though. Joe, after watching it multiple times. How you stop it?

Because listen, when you put that shoulder into me, I'm gonna grab the bottom of your elbow. So when you come back, I'm bringing myself back right with you, and I'm gonna block that. I'm in your face. You hear me? I'm in your face. Hey, and I'm gonna call cookies when I block it.

Oh, Joe, I'm built for all the BS in your game, bro. All the foul and I'm built for all that. You, whatever you, Joe, we could make a jailhouse ball if you want to. It don't make me no different, we can make a jail. You don't make it out of yourself, Joe. Don't make me no different. This is what I do. You're not going out-talk me.

You're not going out-play me. Okay. I'm just letting you know. All right. One thing I'm going to do, even though it's not my sport, I'm going to compete hard as hell. It's okay. I want you to compete, but that shit ain't going to do nothing.

All right. All right, Joe. Who is a good one. Big Mike won, yay or HOV, if you can only go to one concert in July. I'm going to see Hove, bro. I'm going to see Ye. And it's nothing about the comparison of them as an artist. I just like the difference in-

Jay production. Bingo, this way I'll get the creativity, the visuals. Ain't no telling what you're gonna see because Ye is unpredictable. He's unpredictable. I seen him out there on the world. I seen him on their world. That was hard.

Yeah, that was that. That was hard. I've seen it. Oh, Cho, I think I'm about to be agree with you on this one. I think I'm about to go see Ye. Yeah, when you go watch Hold, you know, he going to have lights. You're going to have, you know, the visuals on the jumbo tron behind him, you know. But he's just standing there.

Just walking back. and forth rapping what we already know. Kanye, boy, it's different. Sexy Ed boy, I asked Gemini to see him 100 games, Ravens versus the 05 Bengals. Ravens win

64 to 36. Ray Lewis and Chad Johnson were MVP's. Raven D. was just too suffocating for Carson Palmer. I don't like that. I'm trying to figure out where they're hearing them 64 points came from and they ain't had the goddamn office like that. Huh?

100 games. We beat y'all 64 times. Y'all beat us 36 times. I'm just trying to figure out after the first game, how did y'all have anybody eligible to play? So we hurt y'all. Joe, you see that, Joe? I see a little pebble you got it now.

That ain't no pebble, Joe. That's 30 inches there, boy. Skater double X-L ISO. So what do you think NBA players need to do to stop getting injured so much should they consider lowering the games? No, don't. I don't think they should lower the games.

But I do think guys have to take serious initiative as far as taking care of their bodies, Anka-Ocho, training properly. All that goes hand-to-hand, eating right, training properly, getting the right amount of risk. Because I think what's taken for granted as a professional, especially in basketball, because you've got to play almost every other night,

back-to-back. You may play four games and five nights. And what I've always told y'all, that's equivalent. One game is equivalent to three and a half, four miles running. So if you're doing that four out of five nights, bro, you know, you got to be taking care of yourself. Wear your body down. Yeah. Got to be taking care of yourself.

Do you do? Got to get your sleep. Man. Got to get your reds. Got to get those nutrients in you, you know, quality food. Got to get your treatment when you don't feel. like going there to get treatment, you got to get all that. Nah, they ain't going to lower the game

because you lower the game, you lower the pay. Damn right. Shelton Pope, do you believe Luca dealing with the child support petition, his ex-fired in California, but despite living abroad, was weighing heavily on him. I mean, she's trying to take, she won't, I guess,

she won't sold custody. It's going to be hard for her to prove that she didn't have the kids in California. Even though he's a California to resident, I don't think the other, I don't know if, were any of the kids conceived in Cali? It's going to be hard because Cali won't have jurisdiction.

Hmm. Hmm. That's tough, bro. That's tough. I'm sure he's dealing with it. I'm sure. I'm sure that's on his mind. It's only natural.

Yeah. It's only natural. I mean, look, we, Joe, I don't know if you had to do with the Ucho, but you and I, we were in the smack dab with our career. We had to deal with it. Yeah. Yeah, I had to deal with it, too.

Okay, so you know. Yeah. I know exactly what it's like. That shit stressful. You know, like, come on, you ain't got to do this. Hey, whatever you, nah, part of them want to embarrass you and all kind of foolies have your business all out there. Yeah, I know.

But hopefully it gets resolved. At the end of the day, two parents bickering. I think the thing is that as you get older, you start to realize why we fight. If you say you love the kid, I say, love the kid, let's do it's right for the kid. Me and you're going back and forth. Whatever we had, we don't have that anymore,

but let's do right right for the kid. Yeah. I ain't got no big with you. I want you to be happy. You found happiness over there. I found happiness where I'm at. I ain't got no problem. I want to do,

why do you think I'm doing this? Absolutely. She wants that money. She wants that money. She ain't trying to hear all that. Yeah. We're going to do right by the kid, but you're going to give me this money to me.

I'm taking this money with me. Hey, I know it. Hey, what the type of money that boy making right now? Oh, oh, Luca, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying because, boy, look here, I know some people in California, where they were, hey, they were on football salaries playing $15,000 a month.

Man, listen. I know, I know Luca. Hey, Luca probably, I mean, if they have let California have jurisdiction over that, brother, he'd probably have to give up 50, 60, 70,000 a month. Yeah. I know some people who ain't. Per child.

Let me take that back on your per child. Maybe more. Hey. Hey, I know some girls who didn't even live in California and moved to California, just to file. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Joe, just a file, Joe? Yeah, because you're going to get a lot more in California than you would anywhere else. They'll, they'll let you have, because normally, because normally, wherever the child was conceived. Yeah. Right. Is that how they try to, is that how they try to, is that how they try to, is that how they try to do it.

Some states, like, they cap it. Okay, how much money you make? You go get this. Yeah. I think there are a couple of southern states, but see, in order to do that, you're going to have to have somebody that's in the legislative that make the laws.

You've got to have them get jammed up, and then they'll sleep that thing through. They'll get that through that, get that special session and get that thing done. Yeah. But yeah, it was a, It's tough, man. It's tough.

Yeah, imagine him having to deal with all that, and he got to go out here and play and compete at a high level. That's always going to be in the back of your brain, bro. Yeah. Because you're thinking, like, be kids. One's two, and I think he just had one. So you mean to tell me a two and a two-month-old, three-month-old, they need 50, 60, 70, $100,000 a month?

Come on, man. A month? You know, you know that. You know how that game goes. But hold up, though. Hold up, hold up. But I, you know, when you look at it like, who in the hell, who in the hell grin at? Like, why come people can't use their common sense?

Like, why would a, why would a judge make somebody pay that type of money, bro, when you know they don't need. They factor in, Joe, this is what they do. They said if you, if the child live with you, you have to maintain a lifestyle that, but the child ain't live with me. Cold game. That's the thing of the past. And look, and sometimes, like I said, that's why you got to be good. That's athletes, you got to be good at compartmentalizing. You're dealing with a lot of things that people don't know,

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Look, my kids, we have great relationships. I have a great relationship with my kids. I got two grands now. But it's not easy. I mean, everything went peaches. I mean, it took a while to get to this point. Yeah. Because it takes a lot of growing on both parents.

A lot. Wazoo, Ocho, going to run the Boston Marathon this year, Ocho? Oh, hell no. You done it before, Ocho? Nah, I mean, I run. You know, I train with my daughter. That's about it. But, I mean, she did 800, 400, that's about as far as I go.

Now, marathon? Absolutely not. Oh, you ain't no distant runner. I mean, Joe, that 800, but that's a little tough there, boy, that's, that's enough distance for me. How far is the 800, oh, Joe? Two laps. Two laps? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, there's two laps we booking, though, when we training. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, y'all, hey, how long you think the Boston Marathon is, huh? Like, how many miles? 26.2 miles. Oh, heck. Y'all have a time, y'all have a time, y'all self in the mile.

I ain't, yeah. In high school, I can run a, a sub, a sub. six minute mile oh boy i don't remember i don't remember you booking i ran a mile what's my playing for the hoax we used to have to do a uh we used to have to do a conditioning test you have to run a mile and you have to charge your time like we had a train that charting our time i ran it in like 730 something like that i ran oh cho you remember used to have the 12 you i ever had in college y'all had a 12 minute run where you run around the football you run we run around two football field So we had to run around two football fields for time.

So you had 12 minutes. So you just continuously run for 12 straight minutes. No, I don't remember that. At your own pace? Well, you had to get X amount of laps. You had to get at least six laps. Six laps, 12 minutes. Okay, that's feasible.

Wait, one football field or two football fields? We run around two football fields. Oh, sure. Oh. that's a different ball game yeah yeah and football I mean I would come from a track background

so I knew how to pace myself know how to bring it but people that ain't run no track and offensive defensive linemen I mean I think they probably had like three but you know because you know how it's the same thing with the sprints Ocho you know wire receivers running and everybody else

you know they got 14 seconds and then you got 16 seconds for the tight end of the linebackers and then you got 20 seconds for them slow-ass old line and D-line God. So you just, hey, 16 with a breeze because when we ran, getting in shape, we did 14.

Right. So 16 is a breeze. I ain't even breaking a sweat with that one. All right. All right, what's up, guys? Love from Raleigh, North Carolina, since y'all talked about him yesterday, what are your top five Samuel L. Jackson rolls?

Ooh, that's a good one. Uh, Jungle Fever, he was Gator. A Time to Kill with Matthew McConaughey. That's a good one. Stephen, Django. Hey, hold on, you ever seen this movie called The Cleaners? Nah.

Hold on, hold on. It's Samia Jackson. He's, what's the people who come clean after, like, a murder or something in your house? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't seen that one. I don't think I've seen that one. called the cleaners, bro, y'all got to go,

y'all got to go watch that. I ain't see that. I'm gonna watch that there. Yeah. Uh, oh, you remember, you know a good movie,

uh, Ocho guys? What was that? What's that? What's that? Negotiator. Yeah, I do.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I saw a negotiator. And, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm looking at some of the movies now. Remember Black Snake Moan? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. You don't.

I was a little bit about that. Hey, I was in the phone. That's why I want to be in the phone that. Hey, I forgot Samuel Jackson was in SWAT. Swat, Shaft. Yep, Shaft. Yeah. Oh, yeah, Shaft was cold.

God damn, he didn't been in a lot of movies, man. Jesus Christ. Oh, yeah. They're reasonable doubt. Lake View Terrace. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He was a mother-in-on.

Hey. He was a terrorizing-ass neighbor, boy. Yeah, yeah. He's just, like, have you seen anybody been anybody? No, I just see you two. Hey, you know what? Pope fiction. Soul man.

Pope fiction is up there with one of the best. Absolutely. Yep. Yeah, man, y'all check out that cleaning when y'all ain't got nothing to do. I'm never going to see it. I like, you remember he was in, he branched off, But remember he was six cents. So Mr. Glass, Unbreakable.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, with James McAvoy. Yep. Wait, six cents. That's the movie with the little kid. Yeah, what you call it, with Bruce Willis. Yeah. Man, that was a great movie.

Yeah, that was a great movie. That was a good movie, good movie. I did not know. Boy, they had, hey, I did not know to the very end of that man. Yeah, same. Same. Hey, my favorite part, remember they were stuck in traffic on.

And the little kid and the smoke kept coming out of his mouth like the cold like it was cold or something. That was a really good movie. The sixth sense. That was a really good movie.

Tommy G. Last I checked, the world's strongest man was Mark Henry. I agree. They've been some strong men. Colton. They got this guy named Colton now. He's pretty strong.

Talking about doing them strong man competition. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, I used to love strong man competition. I used to watch Bill Casmeier, when they had come on ABC, had Bill Casimir, Campertera, Paul Wren. Oh, man. I used to watch them when they had

John Paul Sigmarison, Cedronus Livikas. Hey, what's the obstacle court? Mario Pugianowski. Huh? What's the obstacle court thing that people be doing, they'd be running, and you have to jump up that grab them thing,

and then jump off and run up the, y'all, y'all know what I'm talking about. It's like to almost. American Ninja. American Ninja. Ocho, me and you, American Ninja. I bet I beat you. I like that. I like that. I bet I beat you in American Ninja, why?

I like that. Hey, Joe, you're going to struggle because you can't lift your own body weight. Man, you're crazy. You can't. You don't, you're upper body strength. They like that. Man, you're tripping, bro. Joe, your core is weak.

Ocho, you don't know me very well. I'm looking at you, Joe. Okay. I can see, I can see through you, Joe. All right. Okay. Hey, Joe, you can't beat me in nothing, man. Huh?

Joe, you can't beat me in nothing, my boy. You got to take that full gazing crown off, bro. They ain't any. They're too gazing. You know I got this crown from? Where? Huh? Caesar gave it to me.

Julia or Augustus? Julius? Bright Bird. Here you talk about your granddad yesterday and him not playing dead. surprised me, growing up black during the peak of racism, wouldn't find ish funny either. Oh yeah.

Did any joke ever make him laugh? What's the hardest you've seen him laugh? Occasionally he did. I mean, he liked comedy. I mean, I read Fox was his favorite comedy. Hey. When I grew up in the 70s, Westerns were the thing. Yeah.

So you had gun smoke and you had Big Valley, you had things like that, Bonanza. So Westerns were the thing. He was a big, big John Wayne. He had no idea John Wayne had the history that he had, didn't know anything about that. And I'm watching the Bob Barker documentary. Lord, have mercy.

Didn't know about Bob Barker, but people were talking about, oh, but he did a lot for pets. Go to show you, he carried more love pets more than he looked. But we talk about that, let you all watch it first before we get into that. Yeah. I'm trying to think, he ain't watching them,

but mainly what the news? He watched mainly news, didn't watch a whole lot of stuff. But he, I'm trying to think the heart is Papa laughed. I don't really recall. My grandfather grew up in it. You know, you get a barrel of laughs from, you know that term comes from?

Where? In the South, when my grandfather grew up, you couldn't laugh in public. You had to stick your head in a barrel and laugh. Why? What? Boy, you couldn't laugh.

In the South? You're laughing in public? And what? Oh, okay. Okay, okay. I see what you mean. No, no, sir. Bad please.

You can't even wear your uniform. If you're in the military, you couldn't wear your uniform out in public. Damn. He grew up in a different time. I don't, I'd have to ask Spanky because Spanky called me today because I know somebody, he called me like three times and I missed him every time. But I know somebody called and was telling him what I had said on Nightcap and asked if any of that was true.

I know, I know they did. I know that's why he was calling me. I don't recall him laughing that much. I don't. I don't. I honestly don't, guys. Bill's mobby say nightcap, business Japan, when? Business where?

Japan. But who's paying for them flights? Who? Bad, please. Roadrunner underscore Ryan. Kevin Durant addressed the poor Memphis accommodations on Out of the Mud podcast with Tony Allen and Zach Randolph. Both who played a Memphis and agreed the world just loved to target LeBron.

Yeah, two guys that played there, two guys that, that, that, you know, obviously played at a high level. Kevin Durant spoke about like blah, blah, blah, but. Brown, where it is. He understood. Look, I think the thing is like you said, Ocho, and Joe, Joe, you said it. It says his words are powerful. and so obviously, you know, people like to hate that he said it.

I don't, you know, like I said, I understood what he was talking about. I don't know how much time that he, obviously in 23 years he's been to Memphis every year. Yeah. And I don't know if he's gone out or did anything in Memphis. I don't know. He just says he don't like staring. He don't like playing. And I don't think it had anything to do with the people.

It's just one of those. those tiles with the accommodation wasn't up to its satisfaction. Right. So, yeah. Big three, other than WrestleMania and SummerSlam, can you name other WWE pay-per-view events were a PLE that you remember from the time you watch now? Bro, you got to realize we're coming up.

First of all, we didn't have cable in the country. You couldn't get cable in the country. You had to be in the city limits to get cable. So all that, no. And you had to pay for that. Where the money was coming from? Why do you think somebody got $20, $30 or whatever? Oh, Lord, have mercy.

I promise you, Mary Porter was not going to spend no $20 to watch no SummerSlam when she was struggling to put baloney and stuff on the tape. Hell no. What happened? I don't know Joe Ocho, maybe y'all had cable and maybe y'all watched SummerSlam, but we watched, if it didn't come on regular TV, we were watching it. Yeah. Remember that big satellite dish, young?

My granddad, my granddad's had that big satellite dish. Yeah. Like a goddamn UFO, you know, in the turn, left and right. Yeah. I remember that. That's about it. Shit. We had them hangles on the back of the TV for antennas just to...

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We had a pole that you go out there, turn it right there, right there, right there, right there. Right there, right there. That's it. Then you let it go and get fuzz and get done. Yeah, no, no, turn it back. I said, if y'all think I'm about to hold this pole, why y'all don't you're going Why your TV?

You're crazy. Bad, please. Oh, I remember those days. There were the days. There were the days. Back there, we called them floor models. Yeah. You had a big console TV joke.

And that joker went out. That was a shelf you put other stuff on and just set another little TV right on top of it. Oh, the day. That was a good day. Good days. Flow bottle. Man.

Z. and Sony were the TVs. Yeah, hey, Mark. Big flow model TV. And my, I don't remember, Ocho, but Miss Sibishi used to make TVs. Yeah. I remember that.

Hey, clean, too, clean TV. Nice. Hey, my grandma used to be peed off, but we hooked that video game up to their TV. You're gonna knock my color out my TV with that video. Hey, and don't break, hey, had the vice scripts on there to turn the channel? Yes.

Yeah. because you don't lost the knobs. Yeah, you don't broke that thing up. Yeah. You get the fly out. But back then, you didn't have all the channels. You got like three channels. You had like channel three,

because you got like ABC, NBC, CBS. Yeah. Every once in a while we could get like, maybe late at night, you get double JCL channel 22. But you got like, and then you mess around and messing up on show. We had three channels.

On off and don't mess with me. That was it. Hey. You best dad. up. Boy, what, like, man,

the TV go out, ain't had no money, man, we usually used to be, coming home, like, me and Spanagan just play basketball

until it was dark. We'd just be outside playing basketball and throwing the football or something. Come in and just, it's just quiet. Yeah.

Hey, the good days. By the one of the damn good day, who told you that? You don't miss them days? Hell no. Hey, them days molded you,

though. They molded you into who you are. You ain't got no choice. Yeah. That's why I don't really have any problems. being by myself because like once my brother, my brother's three years old.

So by the time he went to college, I'm going to be a sophomore. So he left, I was a freshman, he was a senior. He goes to college my sophomore year. My sister eight years old and me, my sister dating. So basically just me, my grandma and, and, and my nephew. So I, that's why I really have no problem, you know, being alone.

Yeah. And not talking because, ooh, my grandma, who that boy know he can talk. So you just learned to be quiet. Yeah. Varus 117. I saw I was watching Nas play the other day and was wondering what you thought about his game

since you played with him. Also, why you don't think the guys, the space in that space, don't go to the league. In the one-on-one space, that's what he's talking about. I hadn't played with, Nause yet. Obviously, he's on the Detroit-Amp's team this year and we teammates this year. But I watch a lot

of the one-on-one, the 1V-1 space, and Nause is great. He's been great since he joined the big three. He's been in a championship game the past two years. He just hadn't won it, which is one of the reasons why we picked him up this year. Just a competitor, ultra-competitor

who just wants to win, bro. And he competes at the highest level. So I'm excited to be a teammate of his. Do y'all think Watson has a chance to be in the quarterback battle? I think it's his two job to lose. I really don't think it's close. Last we saw DW4, he wasn't a starting caliber quarterback.

That was before the injuries. We're going to see. Oh, I think he's that definitely. I mean, the man making $40-something million. He ain't going to be a starter. Yeah, unless he gets injured again, I agree with you. That's it. It's his job to lose.

making $40 million this year, he's going to be given the chance to start and be the starting quarterback. Will he be the starting quarterback of the future? Probably not. So I think whatever he does this season to date is basically a resume. He's part of his resume,

you know, to see if he can be signed with another team because they're not, he's going to make that $40 million this year. But after this year, they're moving on. Yeah, moving on. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank you for. for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.

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