Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Jaguars/Saints Reaction + Davante Adams Needs The Ball

Episode Date: October 20, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson discuss the Jaguars beating the Saints, why the Raiders need to get Davante Adams the ball, if Shannon should go on a date with Kim Kardashian, and more.  #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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slash football terms for eligibility and deposit restrictions, terms and responsible gaming resources. Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to another edition of Nightcap. I am your favorite, oh, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85, a six-time pro bowler, Cincinnati Big Eagle legend, Chad Ocho Cinco. Johnson, thank you again for joining us. Thank you for getting us up to 125,000 followers. Remember, Ocho, we

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Sunday, we're going to announce a special giveaway. So stay tuned for that. That's going to be on Sunday. Let's jump right into it, Ocho. The Jags beat the Saints 31-24. Trevor Lawrence was 20-29, 204 yards, a touchdown. Derek Carr was 33-55, 3-0-1, one touchdown, one pick. The Saints had the ball first and goal at the six-yard line

for straight incompletion. They should have had a touchdown on third down, but Moreau, his hands got stiff. He locked his fingers up. In that situation, you got to relax. You got to relax. You got to relax. Yeah, most definitely.

Listen, I'm going to start from the beginning of the game obviously i thought it was going to be a runaway by the jacksonville jaguars they've been playing some phenomenal football man ever since trevor lawrence got there that team has turned the dynamic and turned everything around and being and being a competitor as opposed to what we're used to seeing from the jacksonvilleuars being, being up 24, nine, honestly, I thought the game was over. I thought the game was over. And I just, for the, for the, for the life of me, I can't understand why the saints aren't the same intimidating saints. I'm used to seeing, especially offensively,

obviously drew breeds is not there. Derek Carfield's in, but you have the likes of Michael Thomas, Derek Carfield's in, but you have the likes of Michael Thomas, Olave, Rashid, Taysen Hill, Alvin Kamara. And what are we doing? There used to be an intimidating factor from the Saints offensively, and it's just not there. Obviously, we're able to come back in the game and make it a game, make it a game again. And I just don't know what it is. The games, you shouldn't be having to play from behind with a team like that, structured in that manner, with that type of talent surrounding you as a quarterback.

I don't know what the problem is. But I think that's the problem is the quarterback. They don't believe. And I understand they're going to go out there and say, oh, we believe, we believe, we believe. But at the end of the day, your quarterback is what gives you that belief that you can go out there. And when you have that guy, it doesn't matter what's on the other side.

It doesn't matter what their defense is. It doesn't matter who their quarterback is. As long as we got a quarterback that we believe in and we know what he's more than capable of doing. Look, I mean, how many situations have Derek Carr, how many coaches have Derek Carr gotten fired? Dennis Allen about to fire now. He about to get another one.

Now, John Gruden was going to end up getting fired. I mean, I know Mark Davis didn't want to fire him. He had a 10-year contract for $100 million. But the coach before that, Derekrick Carr, got him fired. Derrick Carr, if you just look at the stats, if you just look at the stats, 33-55, 3-0-1, a touchdown, and he should have had

a second touchdown. And then who knows what would have happened. But Ocho, he plays, you know, you look at him and you're like, man, he can make every throw. And then he'll go a stretch where he go like an entire quarter. And you're like, has this dude ever thrown a football? Has he ever played the game of football?

And it just leaves you scratching your head like, wrong. One minute you, go ahead. Also, I'm looking at it in its totality and really not just putting everything on him. Because as I'm watching, I'm looking at receivers in its totality and really not just putting everything on him. Because as I'm watching, I'm looking at receivers giving up on routes. I'm looking at receivers dropping balls and not saving your quarterback. Sometimes you got to HBO your quarterback, help a brother out.

Sometimes everything's not going to be perfect. Sometimes on certain routes, you know, you have DB sitting on you and he has to scramble a little bit, come back to the ball. You know, save a little bit, come back to the ball. Save a little bit. Reset everything. Reset the linemen to help him out sometimes because it doesn't play out all the time just how it's drawn up. You've got to improvise sometimes. And he helped the quarterback out.

I saw him fussing with Olave sometimes on some things, on some hot routes. I saw him fuss with Kamara on some hot routes that he should have broken off based on blitzes that were coming so there was a a few a few mental mistakes a few missed assignments so i wouldn't really put everything on derrick carr but the onus because he is a quarterback he's gonna get most of the goddamn blame but there's some other things from other people that i did see out there today which, which is they have just as much reason for the loss as does Derek Hart. You know, Ochoa, I used to do a lot of things in the game time, and the coach would say, well, why did you do that?

That's not what we practiced. That's not the way we drew it up. I said, yeah, but when you drew it up on the board, the X's and O's didn't move. You know, I got out in the game, and guess what? If I'm an X, I'm moving, and the O damn sure moved. So I had to run my route accordingly, or I had to end the game. And guess what? If I'm an ex, I'm moving. And the whole damn show moving. So I had to run my route accordingly. Or I had to do accordingly.

Yeah, I understood that you say this is what he normally does. But that's not what he did. So I had to act accordingly. I can't go out there because you're going to look at me crazy. I come back to the sideline and say, well, I ran it like this. You told me to go 12 yards. And the guy said the date. You always told me, never go behind

the DB to run my route. Break that right off in front of it. So that's what I did. It's just, I mean, like I said, I hate the fact that Moreau dropped the ball on third down, and I know. I've been there. I've done it. I dropped the play in 90. I dropped the pass in 91 in the south

end zone at my old, my high, that would have given us whole field throughout the playoffs. We went to Buffalo and lost the AFC championship game 10-7. Listen, I dropped one just like Moreau when I was with the Patriots in Buffalo. Hit me right in the hands. Lack of focus. Yep. Too tensed up.

I think I was too relaxed on that one. It was too relaxed. that one it was too relaxed it just went right through my hands I don't know what was going on I don't know what happened with me but stuff like that happens and it's crazy how you lose your lack of focus for a split second

and the ball right out your hands yeah I remember driving home crying like a baby I called my brother on the phone he's like bro what's going on? He was crying. Man, was I? Because that, you know, when you're trying to make a name for

yourself, and I wasn't getting a whole lot of opportunities. So my whole mindset was when I got an opportunity, cash it in. So it's kind of like the way I played in the Ravens. I wasn't going to get a whole lot of opportunities, but I'm trying to hit my head on the goalpost every opportunity that I got. So I know I might not get one catch,

but okay, can you make it something special? And so that was my one chance. I'm like, man, coach, like, hey, this is what's going to happen. Just like you said, we're going to line you up here. We're going to motion you out and they're going to motion Jerry Robinson with you. So that's going to be a linebacker

that's going to be you. Man, I shook him so bad. Oh, Ocho, I just knew it. And what I did, I short armed Ocho. All I had to do was do this. And I did it like this. It went right off your fingertips, huh? Right off my fingertips, man.

Right off my fingertips. Broke my heart. And I just remember, God, if you ever put me backip. Broke my heart. Yeah. And I just remember, it's like, God, if you ever put me back in that situation again. Never happen again. That's never going to happen. So, I mean, what about the Jags?

If you look at this play that the Jags got to get the lead, that's a simple Zorro route. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, hold.

You run that route on third or fourth down trying to pick up a couple of yards because they have man coverage. That's not a route that you hit your head on the goal post zone. You're not going 44 yards on a Zorro, Ocho.

I've scored several times. That's a route they put in in the West Coast. Peterson was the quarterback in the West Coast. So I'm like, bro, how? How do you score 44 yards on a zomro route well i think they scored obviously they were there was a man and then not only were they a man there was a mismatch

there's a mismatch why is not a nickel why yeah why is a nickel not on christian kirk why is the honey badger who normally your safety always coming down in the box if you want to play rob or something why is he on christian k Kirk in that situation on third down anyway? What are we doing? He's not going to be able to cover him. I don't care if they got Cam. I don't care if they got Cam Jordan. What about the angle that they took to get him down?

He still went 44 yards on the Zorro route. Yeah, but you got to think about it. Listen, it's man to man. Where's all the DBs' backs facing? Where's everybody? Which way? They looking that way. So by the time they turn around, Christian Kirk is in full speed,

already passing by. You notice once he caught the ball and got going upfield, everybody looked around. It was too late. He was full tilt. He was already full tilt. It was a house call from that point. Man, they took some horrible angles.

They took some horrible angles. Honey Badger, once he makes that play, Honey Badger knows he's got to get up the field, so I'm going to try to intercept him at a point. I ain't going down the line. Forget the first stop and fourth. Forget trying to stop him from a first down. That's the least of your concerns now.

Now I'm trying not to let him get six points out of this. Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, it was too late. It was too late. And then, Kirk is already fast. He's already fast as it is. He doesn't need to be Tyreek Hill fast, but you got to think. In the NFL, it's all about angles.

It's all about angles. And once you get somebody that's already ahead of you, man, there ain't nothing you can do. Ain't nothing you can do. Man, where you get that bad bro jacket from? Bad Bout to Beyond? No, this is from Urban Outfitters. It was on the sale rack, $20.

Man. You don't like this? That's when you got your phone, you hear buzzing in the bedroom, and you put that on and go get it. Now, this is some good material. Now, this is good quality. Yeah, this is good quality.

That's a towel. You drive with that. Nah, this is 100% cotton. It's imported from Italy. What you talk about? What you think they make towels out of? Silk? Nah, I'm saying the type of quality this is.

This is good quality. This is imported from Italy. Yeah. Yeah. Really? Oh, you're talking about little Italy over in New York? No, I'm talking about the real... This is from Naples.

Naples, Italy. This is from Naples. This comes from Naples. Yeah, I got... I got a crib in Naples. Nah. Nah, this is real good quality. You don't know nothing about this. Yeah, I'm trying crib in Naples. Nah, nah, this is real good quality. You don't know nothing about this.

Yeah, trying to make fun of myself. Devontae Adams is very frustrated with his role in the offense. I would be too. He says, I'm just not here to hang out. What are your thoughts on 17? My thoughts are on 17 is that's right. That's right. Why does he have to settle for

mediocrity? Because they have. Why does he have to? Why does he have to? You have a top tier receiver on your team that gives you a chance to win week in and week out. He is a difference maker. He is someone that can hit his head off the goalpost from anywhere on the field. He is someone that makes everyone else around him job easier, including the offensive coordinator, including the quarterback. They played the goddamn New England Patriots last weekend. He had two catches. Mind you, you might have won the game, but let's say you weren't playing the New England Patriots. Don't allow teams to dictate what you want to do with your best players, especially someone of that magnitude, if you want to have a winning attitude and have a winning mentality.

Dictate what you want to do. Don't allow them to dictate to you. I can keep going. Talk to me. Talk to me. Ocho. Yes, sir. The Patriots are not dictating where the ball is going.

The quarterback is. Look at the quarterback that you got. What did you think you was going to get when you got Jimmy Garoppolo? Whoa. What did you? Oh, go ahead. You got Jimmy Garoppolo, right? Yeah.

You could have the Pope on the center. You could have the Pope on the center who don't know nothing about football, and you look at Devontae Adams' resume and understand what he can do, regardless of coverage, regardless of needing the help of an officer coordinator to scheme him open, understanding he has the DNA to get it off the muscle from anywhere, from the outside, from the inside, coming at the backfield, condensed split, tight split, wide split. He doesn't even need help.

He's what I like to call it. Remember Marvin Harrison? Remember Marvin Harrison? He should line up on the right side of the field. Right. And all Peyton had to say was, hey, you know what? Get open. I don't need to scheme nothing.

Devontae is that type of player. So it doesn't matter who's playing quarterback. You know you have someone that is going to be open for you every single time. It's easy. It's not hard. Why? You don't have to complicate it. Why make it difficult? Think about this, Ocho. Go back and look at Jimmy Garoppolo when he played his best football. Yes, sir. It was in San Francisco with Kyle Shanahan. Yeah. Look at Kyle Shanahan's system. Now, what did Jimmy do? Quick pass, jailbreak screen, handoff, swing passes. Right. Okay.

Are you going to change? That's not just, I mean, so are you going to revamp your offense to get the maximum because you got to understand, and this is what I always tell people. Right. When you sign a guy in free agency, you better use him like they used him where Let's tell people. Right. When you sign a guy in free agency. Yes, sir.

You better use him like they used him where he came from and why you fell in love with him. Because if you don't, you see, if I get a towel, if I buy a towel to drive with it, it shouldn't be a shower curtain. It shouldn't be curtains that I hang up in my living room because that's not what I bought it for. You got Jimmy G and you know what his skill set was. So why are we upset that he can't maximize what Devontae does when he never did that for anybody else? This is the thing. This is the thing. He's never done it with anybody else, but he's also never had a Devontae Adams.

He's also never had a Devontae Adams. Come hell or high water, Jimmy G being a quarterback, you have someone that makes your job easy. You know what? I know whatever play I call right now, regardless of coverage,

I know who I can count on. I know who I can count on to win every single time. Every single time. Sometimes you can improvise. Sometimes as a quarterback, you can go off script based on the personnel

that's surrounding you. Devontae Adams is one of those people. Can you imagine? I'm just thinking, hypothetically speaking, if I never played quarterback a day in my life, never played quarterback a day in my life at the highest level. Too bad for you. But if

I was with the Raiders, listen, I'm feeding that. I'm feeding that because I know I can move up and down the field by feeding the individual that cannot be stopped regardless of what they do defensively. All we have to do is put them in positions to win. It's really simple. I'm not sure whose ego is so complicated or whose ego is so inflamed over there offensively. Whoever the coordinator may be, it's easy.

It's not hard. No, no, no disrespect. It's not hard. No disrespect. He's a better coordinator than any other head coach. As a head coach, he was an epic failure in Denver. Do you think he's caught on the place? Yes. He's only been good in New England. Remember when he was the OC at the Rams?

He was terrible. Remember when he was the head coach at the Broncos? He was terrible. Right. He backed out of a job. He had a job in Indy. He backed out of that. And then he ended up getting another job. Ultra, let me ask you a question.

Can you get butter from a duck? I don't think so. You can't get no butter from no duck, man. Can you get bacon from a chicken? In other words, you're asking Jimmy G to give you something that he can't. Why can't you understand that? Damn what he is. It's the NFL.

Jimmy G's job is to throw the ball. Jimmy G's job is to throw the ball. There are people in the game called the NFL. You have quarterbacks and you have receivers. You have tiers of receivers, right? You have tiers of receivers. You have tiers of quarterbacks.

Right. So you have a tier one receiver that can make a good quarterback look brilliant. Yes. Look amazing. It's not hard. It's not complicated. It's really if jimmy g is one that you

think you feel you can't win with or you can't he can't really get the job done he doesn't need to be in a kyle shanahan's offense you know why because you have someone like the likes of davante adams that makes the job fucking easy it makes the job easy. But what Kyle did is that he masked. Kyle was makeup. He didn't let you see those imperfections that Jimmy G had. You see, you've been in a situation. You see the nice lady at the club, and there's something

about them lights at the club. I don't know what the hell they do. I need to get somebody in my house. But they make everything look good. And then all of a sudden, she get home, and she ain't under those lights. And she start taking off her makeup. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. And then all of a sudden, she get home, and she ain't under those lights. And she start taking off her makeup. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. And she come up out them skims, or them skims,

or whatever they call them, and everything hit the floor. And everything dropped like, what the hell? Drop marbles out of their pocket. And everything rolling around. And then all of a sudden, she take off lashes. She wrap the head up in a bonnet. Right, right, right, right, right.

You see what Kyle Shanahan did? He didn't let you see those imperfections. Now you got him in a different light, and you see him for what he actually is. This is a funny thing. I'm glad you said that. So in the NFL, you have players that get coaches fired, and you have players that can prolong a coach's career. Absolutely.

You have Jimmy G, right? And those imperfections that you speak of, there's an individual that can mask those. And he wears number 17. He can mask all those imperfections by moving around and put them in situations to either get the ball out of Jimmy's hands fast or if you want to do play action, if you want to use Josh Jacob, establish the run. But you have someone that can wheel you down the field at will at any given moment, and you're not using it.

So you're complicating it. At this point, I think they're doing it on purpose. At this point, I think they're doing it on purpose, honestly. I think they're sabotaging it on purpose. I don't know, because they have a different mindset. They're thinking differently upstairs purpose i don't know because they have a different mindset they they thinking differently upstairs we don't know what they thinking but when you understand what they have in that building when you understand what they have in their room when you understand the resume in the dna and who davante adams is and what he can do on the field

regards to who's in front of him against any coverage. Two catches is fucking nonsense. That's nonsense. And I mean that with all due respect to all parties involved. You said you wanted to see Chad, you wanted to see Devontae in Dallas. Oh yeah, talk to me now. Yeah. So is CD, hold on,

is CD going to give up that 88? Because the 88 is supposed to be special. Oh yeah, it is special. So if he walks in the door, who's going to give up that 88? Because the 88 is supposed to be special. It is special. It's special. So if he walks in the door, who's number one? Now, you do remember this, Ocho. They got rid of Amari Cooper so CD could be number one without anybody challenging him. Nope, don't do that.

Don't do that. That's not why. That's not why. That was a business decision because Jerry Jones didn't want to pay that $20 million. That's what it came from. He already paid it. Look at Gallup. So now everybody's saying they need a number two receiver.

Now you see Amari Cooper balling. Yeah. It was nothing wrong with him in the first place. There was no need to get rid of him. You got rid of him because you didn't want to pay the money. You didn't want to pay the money and you feel you're going to get the production from elsewhere or something close to it. That's not the case for someone that good. That's not the case.

Sometimes, sometimes you have to remove because, in my estimation, because he's so technically and fundamentally sound, Amari is not going to concede. He's not going to say, oh, okay. It's kind of like with Jerry and T.O. Jerry wasn't going to concede that number one spot to T.O. They had to get Jerry out of there. They had to. They had to get T.O. out of there.

Okay. That's what you mean. No. Listen. Remember, on Jerry Rice's day, T.O. called 20 passes. Oh, okay. On Jerry get T out of there. Okay. That's what you mean. No. Listen. Remember, on Jerry Rice Day, T.O. called 20 passes. Oh, okay. On Jerry Rice Day. Okay, okay.

They had to move on from Jerry because in Jerry's mind, Jerry wasn't going to concede. He's not the number one receiver. Right. Amari Cooper, you know how number one. You're number one. You ain't conceding-ish. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I did, though. I did. Why did I do it? Yeah, because T.O. was better than you, though. No, T.O. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm the better receiver. Sometimes numbers don't tell the whole story.

Anyway, that's my dog. We'll get on that later. That's the story. If I dial that number, if I dial your number that's in my phone, will you pick up? Okay, them numbers tell the story then. Yeah, I know they do. That's the story I was talking about. Listen, and I was happy.

I stood on the table. I think it was before Buffalo. I think that's what I meant. I went up to Mr. Brown. I went to Marvin Lewis. I say, man, listen, man, we got to get a T in here. You know, me and T, we 20 years strong in the game. Friends outside of the game, on the field.

I was happy and had no problem taking a backseat to one of the greatest they ever played a game. I was happy. But you got to know. So, listen. That's your friend. Yeah. But we talk about winning.

I was looking at the bigger picture. Now, it didn't work out the way I thought it would, but I think why can't CDC the same thing? Why can't they see the vision? Jerry Jones, Jerry Jones always wanted to be front and center. He wanted to be the GM. He wanted to be the president. He wanted to be the custodian.

He wanted to be the janitor. He wanted to run the show. And the brand, the Cowboys, you haven't won a Super Bowl in how long? So why not make a splash? And why not bring in that splash and having Devonta Adams and improving your offense drastically just like that and becoming a goddamn Super Bowl favorite? Let me ask you a question, Ocho. Why not? Okay, at what year were you in your career when that happened?

You do realize you had already gone to six Pro Bowls. You had already been, you had already led the league in receiving. You had already been an All-Pro. CD Lam hasn't been to as many Pro Bowls. He hadn't accomplished the things. So he's not going to be as willing a participant as you

to concede. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I thought the common goal was to get the Lombardi trophy. Isn't that? Listen to me. Listen to me. Is that not what we preach about all the time? There is, there is one team.

Listen to me now. There's one team that moves the needle in all media. One team that moves the needle. And every year is the same year it's the same conversation. We have the talent. We have the players. We have the personnel to go to the Super Bowl, and they continue to fall short every year. Why not add that one special dynamic that can put you over the hump offensively?

Why not? Ocho. I'm just saying. I'm speaking hypothetically. Okay, Ocho. I'm just saying I'm speaking hypothetically I'm not disagreeing with you but you know people say I want to win

but 95% of people want to win but they want to win their way you know that wait so are you talking about Jerry Jones is that his way are you talking about from CD's standpoint I'm saying people Coach Belichick Coach Belichick would rather lose his way? Are you talking about from CD's standpoint? I'm saying people. Coach Belichick would rather lose his way than win somebody else's way.

See, and you know what? That's the problem. That's another problem. That's probably what's going on over in goddamn Vegas. Get the man the goddamn ball because what's going to happen is you're going to end up getting fired and you're going to be at home wondering why you got fired because you're not using the players you have to the best of their ability. It makes no sense because of ego, because I'm going to try to win my way. Just what you just said. I'm going to win my way. And if my way involves not getting Devontae Adams the goddamn ball, so be it. Not look at you.

Okay, how about this? Speaking of the Cowboys, Micah Parsons wants the same energy for the Eagles. Micah on his podcast said, I see my quarterback maybe not have the red zone success, but move the ball way better than the Eagles did on Sunday. He wants the same energy for everybody because there's a bunch of bashing

when it's Dak, but not the same when it's the Eagles. What's your take on that? Micah. Micah has to understand who he plays for. He play for that star and that helmet, boy. It comes with the territory. It comes with the territory.

America's team, that's what you want. That's the nature of the business, and that's the way it will always be. Your team moves the needle. Win, loss, draw, bye week, it don't even matter. It's going to always be like that. Respectfully, you got to take it. You got to take it for what it is. There are certain sports, the Yankees in baseball, the Lakers in basketball, the Cowboys.

Does he understand that Jerry Jones was not a billionaire when he purchased the Cowboys? Now he's 10, 15, 18, maybe even 20 billion. Why? Michael, that comes along with it. There's a lot of guys. I know guys that played on bad teams that were getting 17, 18 sacks that didn't even really get mentioned.

And there are guys that are getting 8, 9, 10 sacks because they played on a more prominent team. They get all the love. That's how it works, Micah. Micah, I never heard Micah say one thing when a lot of those same media said the Dallas Cowboys and Micah Parsons have a historic defense. Not one time did he say, why don't y'all give that energy to the Eagles?

The Eagles led the league, tied the NFL record with 72 sacks last season. Micah Parsons, not one time said they should give the Eagles love for that historic defense that they got. Not one time did I hear him say that. It happens. I think you have a better understanding of it now after hearing everyone talk i think you have a better understanding standing of it now after

hearing everyone want to talk about it and having a better understanding on who you play for understand where you are america's team it just it comes with the nature of the business i think i think i think he gets it i think he gets it but the media will never ever bow down to the players based on what they have to say because they understand what and who moves the needle what and who moves it and that that just would have come down to saying like when it comes to basketball it's the lakers when it comes to baseball it's the goddamn yankees and it's been like that for years it's gonna be like that because I think the thing is that the expectations that comes along with the Cowboys

and the expectations that their owner and the son Steven co-owner says that this team or this roster reminds me of the 90s Cowboys. Everybody knows what the 90s Cowboys did. So when you keep saying that, you

raise the level of expectations. And when you don't meet that level of expectations. But I tell you another thing that will get people off you. When you're on national or you're on primetime television, don't get beat by 32. Don't get the brakes beat off you. Right. If you don't get the doors blowed off you, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, you used to like to do hypothetical. Let's just say that game was a 28-27 ball game.

Right. Nobody. When you get beat 42-10 and they call the dogs off. Right. That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah. You're right. You're right.

But see, me, I get it. I get it. You know, if I criticize, if I don't, if I criticize the blacks, I'm bringing a black guy down. If I criticize the white guy, I'm criticizing them because they're not black. So I just decided I will call it like I see it. And damn what you say, whether they black, damn what you say, whether they white. I'm just going to call it like I see it. Play better. It is what it is. If you play better, play better. You know, for him individually, he's playing well,

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Because the male frog said, I don't do that necrophilia. I ain't about that. And they say, as soon as the male frog get up, they get up and like, okay, and hop on the way. Well, that goes on in today's era too. And I get it. Pretending like they sleep.

You know how they pretend like they sleep? Not only do they pretend like they sleep. I think, girl, come on. You just read the team two minutes ago. Damn. Right? What about the frogs play like they dead, right? Yeah.

How about women that give you their number? I'm speaking hypothetically because it doesn't happen to me, but I'm just saying based on what I heard. Somebody's sending you a DM and you know you saw it and you don't read it. Somebody send you a text and she knows she saw it and she don't read it. And she

continuously sees those messages from whoever it is knowing you have no intent on dealing with that individual, but just continuing to stare at it. And I say they do it for egotistical reasons. Okay, that could be possible.

Egotistical reasons, you know. Hey, it's the same concept, same concept. They say frogs, I'm not going to compare them to our female species, but I'm just saying it's the same thing. But it just goes to show you, even something that's not as highly developed intellectually or have the brain capacity as a human.

They know what they want and what they don't. Because for the most part, animals in the wild, what do the males do? They fight because the biggest, baddest, the females want to make to the biggest and baddest because they want that protection. Humans are probably the

only species of mammals that don't worry about size. Because they're not worried about the level of protection. Now, some women say, okay, I want a man to feel secure. I want to feel comfortable. They're worried about zeros. Yeah.

That's the protection they want. Stay with me now. Let's stay with me. They won't provide them zeroes. But you look at all the other animals. You look at elephants and lions. Hey, they're like, no, no, no, no. I want the big one. I want the big one, the dark man.

That's about two years old. I want him. That got a 500-mile territory. Those are the brothers that need to come up in here. Yeah, but I couldn't believe the frogs did that. And that got me to think. I said, you know what? Women be doing that too. Pretend like they sleep.

Keep them doing... True story. I broke up with my girlfriend. Wait, wait, wait. You broke up with her or she broke up with you? I broke up with my girlfriend. This was years ago. This was probably about 25 years ago. Every time you tell a story, it's years ago. I'm thinking this might be recent.

This is recent. No, this is 25 years ago. My sister told my grandma, said, Granny, you know, such and such not going together. They're not together no more. I ain't tell you her name.

You know what my grandma said? What'd she say? She wasn't doing her nightly duties. Ooh. Wait a minute. That's what my granny said. That's what my granny said. Wait, let me sit up.

Wait, let me get my notepad out. What are nightly duties so I can make sure those duties are being done over there? You know what nightly duties are. Everybody that's watching this knows what nightly duties are. I need you. Listen, I'm trying to get where you are. You have a little bit more life experience than me, so let me jot down

some nightly duties so I can check them. She was doing like the female European common frog. She was faking. She was doing the tired potato like she was asleep. Wait, y'all live together? Wait. Wait a minute. Let's dive a little deeper. This is a lot

to unpack. Now, y'all live together and she wasn't doing her nightly thing. I got a roll. I pack light. I don't ever check no luggage, so I don't know what you want to unpack. Wait, so now, understand that the last time I checked, I saw it on Murder, She Wrote.

A woman that was playing sleep every time he came home, and just to come to find out toward the end of the story, there happened to be another man. Yeah. And that happened. That happens a lot in life. In general, the person you with start acting funny. And when you dive a little bit deeper, you always tend to find out the routine changes from who they used to be when you first met. And you start. Listen, that because it happened to me. That's how I know it. It happened to me. And you started acting funny. And what did I do? I put on my black Dickies. I put on my black skull cap. Oh, you sleep.

So what I did, I jumped in the car. Oh, you sleep. OK, bet. Wait a minute. How you sleep is 830. OK, bet. Well, you sleep? Okay, bet. Wait a minute. How you sleep? It's 830. Okay, bet. Well, you go ahead and get you a nice license. So I get in the car. You know, I got a little... You a PI? You a PI now? Yeah, I had to be because now you... Now listen.

Now you're a... I could be honest with you because we family. I could be honest with you. Like, I... Listen. I get in the car. I go to the house. She's standing over there at the time. She in Carroll City. That wasn't about a 30-minute drive.

Real quick. I jumped on the highway. I jumped on 95. You low, huh? 30 minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I pull up to the house. The car ain't in the driveway.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I had a car in the driveway, but you just told me you sleep. That's what I'm saying to my head. I'm saying, oh, nah. Oh, she want to play. Bet. I waited. I waited about five minutes. I called the phone back. Oh, the phone. I kept calling over and over my, it ain't been number 30 minutes. So how you sleep already? I ain't chilling, so I sat on the front porch. I took a picture, right? I took a picture at the front door like this.

Oh! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, I took a picture at the front door, right? Did you? Did you? I sent it to her. Oh, but you sleep, huh? Okay, bet. Hey, listen,

it blocked the number and went on about my business and my life. Now, guess who was trying to spin the block? She started saying, you know, I thought I had a little motion. My little motion was back in effect. My visibility started being back popping. It was

too late then because Railhead done came and snatched me up real quick. Oh, man. Came and snatched me up. I'm good. I'm good. I mean, sometimes. It happens.

Listen, sometimes in a relationship. Yes, sir. One party wants to move on, but they don't know how to tell the other party they want to move on. That's a good one. That's because a lot of people watching right now. A lot of people watching right now. I'm going to tell you no lie because a lot of people watching right now, a lot of people watching right now. I'm going to tell you no lie, because a lot of people watching right now with someone. They don't they don't know how to break it off. Not only do they not not only do they not want to break it off in this economy.

You have someone that's helping you and taking care of you. You really don't want to lose that sense of security and help. Some men as well. They were women. Yeah, they got to stay. They got to stay with the women cause you need a roof over your head but I ain't wired like that I can never let a woman take care of me I can never let a woman take anything for me I'm not saying take care of some men aren't fortunate

and they're in situations where they need that roof over their head and they're dealing with someone that's able to provide that yeah and that's tough that's tough when you're somewhere you don't want to be. I think because I told you the lonely my granddad used to say, boy, the loneliest place in the world is to be somewhere you're not wanting. Right. Right. Right. And if you don't know, you're not wanting. It's another thing to know you're not wanting college. I remember in college I broke up with my girl. I was moping. I used tooping. I used to have work study.

And I worked for Coach Davis, rest his soul, Coach Davis. And I used to go to his office every day. And when I wasn't in class, I would do my homework. If the professor would cancel class or something happened, I would go to Coach Davis' office, get my hours in, but I would do my homework. A couple of days go by, he see me moping. He's like, what's going on right right coach i i broke up

with my girlfriend i said i said my girlfriend and i broke up he said well damn son he said is everything okay i said coach we were both sick and he looked at me he said y'all were both sick i said yeah coach i was sick of her and she was sick of me hey that's a good one let me let me let me tell you something one. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. I always think about, obviously, it's okay to hurt. It's okay to mourn. It's okay to be sad when things don't work out. But I tell men this all the time.

When you're moping and you're chasing, you're fighting back to get a woman back that you might have been with for a long time. The last time, think about this. When someone leaves you, a woman doesn't want to be with you anymore. I always see it as one less expense. And I mean that in the most respectful way possible. I just see it as one less expense that I have to worry about that becomes someone else's responsibility.

So I've never seen who want to chase an added extra bill. Why do you want to do that? I see it in that way and trying to put things in a perspective, in hindsight, if you, if you have a hundred dollars as a dude, right? If you have a hundred dollars at a dude and you lose that hundred dollars trying to chase someone because you have to pay when, which i call a transaction transaction transactional transactional yeah it doesn't it doesn't bring any value to you because it's taking what you have bringing adding nothing to it so why did that you why are you hurting why are you sad and that's just a small analogy and i mean that in the most respectful way possible

and it happens on a small scale and it happens on the grander scale. Depends on how you look at it. But you know what, Ocho, what it is? It's kind of like for me, and I don't want people to take this the wrong way, since I'm trying to compare a woman to sport. But what I'm saying is that when you invest something, when you invest, for damn the money, when I invest my time, my energy, my heart and soul,

like I did the sport, it hurt when you lose. So I'm looking at it when I lose her. I'm hurt. You damn right I'm hurt. Yes, I cry. And even though I might not short outwardly, internally, I'm in a knot. I had a young lady tell me one time, she's like, you're not hurting. I said, what do you mean? I'm not hurting. She said, because when I see you, you're not, you're not in a ball.

I said, is that what you want? Right. I said, you want me to hurt that bad? Right. I said, you want me to not be able to function. You don't want me to be able to go to work. Right. I was like, I get it. I get it. Yes. I'm sure I've hurt you, but just because I'm not curled up in a ball because I'm not in a psych war. Trust me when I say this and I say this in all sincerity, I'm hurting.

Yeah. But I've been able to compartmentalize because when you become a, when you become a professional athlete, the one thing you must be able to do above all, because obviously you don't make it to the level that you make it as a professional athlete if you can't play. You've got to be able to compartmentalize.

If you cannot compartmentalize, you can't play at any level in a professional sport. You've got to be able to say, okay, I've got this going on, be it at home, my wife is getting on my nerves, or my girlfriend. My kids are sick. My mom is not. My mom or my dad, there's something going on.

I've got to be able to set that aside for them two and a half hours and be able to get done what I need to get done because you know what? Them 85,000 fans and my 45 teammates, hey, they depending on me. They don't want to hear nothing. All they see is 84 on the front and Sharp on the back and I need to get it done and so that's my bad my bad no no i'm just saying

so that's where i'm at please make sure you hit that subscribe button i really really appreciate that uncle nocho we appreciate that so much please tell all your friends go ahead before we get off that topic i think one of the small issues that we have in today's society and today's world in general is our sole focus is on finding a partner. And the fact that we have nothing else going on outside of that partner, I think that's why we hurt so goddamn much. Because you got nothing else going on in life. Everything is about my man, my man, my man, or this dude, this dude, this dude, or what he can do for me and what she can do. If you have something else going on

in life and whatever's supposed to happen, it's going to happen, it's going to find you. Allow it to happen organically. Allow it to happen naturally. And it took me forever to get to that motherfucking point. It took me forever. No, I'm just saying. It took me, hey, we could be here for hours talking about that.

You know, the ups and the downs when it comes to that. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Because now as a business owner myself and trying to grow and what it takes and the amount of time that I got to spend with my team and the amount of time that I got to spend with sponsors and advertisers and try to make sure this thing is right, it's hard because I can't serve two masters. Because she's like, well, help me what? Because you're saying, well, let's go this. No, I got to watch the games.

You do realize that the reason why I'm able to talk about and to say what I say is because I watch the games. I don't do the clips. I don't do, okay, watch the games for me, Ash, or watch the game for me. No, that's not how I function. I've got to see it. And then I can talk about it with the passion in which I get up there and talk about it. I say, you don't understand. This is not about, sure, you have to understand what comes along when you're with me. And there's a lot of sacrifices not only do I make, but in order for my partner, they're going to have to make those sacrifices also. So there's a lot of times that when your girl's going into the Jamaica. OK, if that's what you want to do, go. But I'm not going to be able to go.

Their guys might be able to go with them, but their guys don't have the responsibility. And it's one thing. It's one thing when I'm only responsible for me and you. But I got Ash, I got Jordan, I got CJ, I got Shelly, I got other people that are counting on me. So this

gotta be a success because I've got other people that invested in me. Ash left a great job at Fox. She said, I believe in you, Shannon. Jordan moved from Cincinnati. I believe in you. CJ left. Said, hey,

I want to rock with you. So now I'm full speed ahead. If some things ain't right, this ain't right, fix it. Because me, I'm good. I can go right back to Atlanta, kick my heels up and live

and be straight. But that's not them. My job is to get them. When it's all said and done, when I say, you know what guys, I'm stepping away. I want each one of the people that work for me to say, you know what, hey, you gone, we gone too. We good. Right, we good. I like that.

I like that. That's what I work for. That's what I look. When Ash or Jordan or CJ, when I see how excited they are to come to work, I said, okay. I'm good. I'm good.

That's how I am. Again, please make sure you hit the subscribe button, guys. We really, really appreciate that, guys. Y'all have done Unc and Ocho. We've grown exponentially. I don't know if you noticed this, Ocho, but we're the ninth Apple Sports Podcast.

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Chris Ruth, right? Ruth Chris. Oh, shit. I said it wrong. My bad. My bad. Yeah. My bad. Yeah.

That might be Ruth's brother. He ain't opened his store yet, though. And you know, I don't be knowing about that little fancy stuff everybody like to go to, but I'm going to take the kids out. I appreciate y'all, man. I love you, man. Thank you. Thank you.

Man, how many subscribers we at? We at, I don't know what we're at. 126. So we got a thousand since we just been on the air. Ocho, here's the story. Idina Manziel responsible for her interracial aspect. She was married to Taye Diggs.

And she said the relationship impact, she said, yeah. Good actor. It seemed like there was disappointment in the community with him. That Taye Diggs. Yeah. And she said the relationship impact, she said, yeah. Good actor. It seemed like there was disappointment in the community with him that Taye Diggs, a black man, was married to a I think she used the word a white Jewish woman.

That's what he said. He said on the Van Lathan show, a van by Guy C working out all the time. He said the backlash he received from marrying a white woman and the resentment later built up time. He said the backlash he received from marrying a white woman and the resentment later built up inside. We left the other part out, but she's Jewish.

And so for me, what is your takeaway? I'm going to get into mine. What is your takeaway? She said he was on the cover of Essence, Ebony being interviewed by all these black journalists and he had his own stuff to deal with that.

It was less about being successful and more about that kind of stuff. So what's your takeaway on that? I say, listen, my takeaway, love is love. Love is love. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to start there. Love is love. It's about finding someone that makes you happy. Now, if you are stuck on race and, and focus on finding someone of your ethnicity that makes you happy, then so be it. If you are maybe one that wants to venture out and enjoy other ethnicities and other races and

trying to submerge yourself in their culture and understanding their culture and finding love in that way, so be it. When I buy a bag of Skittles, I'm speaking for me personally. When I buy a bag of Skittles, I don't pick and choose which ones I want to eat because I enjoy them all. I enjoy all of them. I'll throw them in my head and throw them in my mouth. Quick. I enjoy them all. Everyone has a preference. Everyone should be allowed to have a preference on who they date and who makes them happy. I think limiting ourselves to stay within a race is,

it's a little tough and it's a tricky combo. It depends on the person. It depends on who you are. It depends on your background. And, you know, somebody, some people, some people have parents, you can't, you can't, you can't bring someone to the opposite race in your home. It's just at this point where we are at this juncture in life in 2023 the fact that we are still stuck on this is beyond me let me ask you a question oh oh joe they were married for 11 years so when and so if they married for 11 years they probably dated for at least two years so at what point in time in that 13 year relationship did he realize that she was white? Did he wake up one morning like, God, I'm a white woman.

Do you think the pressure and the backlash because he was in an interracial marriage, you think it affected him? You think it got to him? Did it affect his job where he wasn't able to do like something you said, being able to compartmentalize? You think he wasn't able to separate the two? I think he allowed the community to make decisions for him. He listened to the community saying you this prominent guy because what they do is says that white person, that lady wouldn't talk to you if you weren't who you were.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you hear what you just said? Yes. I was saying the community would say that white woman wouldn't talk to you if you weren't who you were they look at it neither were the women in the community I get

that okay thank you but my thing is Ocho why do I have to live my life you do realize that when Dr. King and Rosa Parks they were fighting for more than your voting rights, more than your fair

housing, more than your unemployment rights. It was the right to be able to choose a choice. Just like abortion, that should be between the woman and her doctor. Okay, fine. Whatever you, whatever. That's a woman. Okay, shouldn't who I date,

who I marry, shouldn't that be between me and my spouse? Right. Without outside external forces from either community. Right. Y'all don't have to live with them. Y'all don't have to feed us. Y'all don't have to take care of anything. Why is it such a, that's what I don't understand. When I saw the criticism that Bronnie was getting for taking a white young lady to the prom. And I see some of these other guys. Why does it upset you so much? If it doesn't cost you anything, if it doesn't take any money out of your pocket, if it doesn't put any money on your table, why are you upset with somebody?

Because even though he's dating somebody outside the community, what makes you think if he was dating somebody in the community, it would be you? I don't know. it's a tough topic it's very very um it can go one or two ways you know it can go south or it can go north there's no in between listen i'm not dr umar you know so it's hard for me to really to dissect and get and dive deep into the topic. But all I can see is and say is based on me and preference is I love everybody. I love all walks of life, regardless of where you come from, regardless of your ethnicity, regardless of your background. You know, I'm able to to enjoy all circles. I can put myself in any environment and adapt to it.

And for that, I think, you know, really. But it's committing yourself. Oh, Joe, come on. I know, I know. But just having to say, you know what, stick to this and just block off everything else in life. I just, I don't know why they do it. You know, they're happy with athletes.

Basically, when it comes to athletes, they say, well, once you get money, we always venture off and go date elsewhere. Outside of our race. Outside of our race. You know, once you get a little money, you start dating women that you actually wouldn't have access to and, you know, access to get, well, that's in, in general, in life and anything that you do, you never want to, you never want to stay the same.

You go for what you like, and that's just the nature of the beast, the way it's always been. Listen, it's all about preference. What makes you happy? What makes you happy? You can't live for nobody else. You just can't. I know the cover of the famous case

was Loving vs. Virginia about a black interracial couple that was married and you know before it was against the law to cohabitate. A black and a white couldn't cohabitate together. They threw your ass in jail.

What year was this? Yes. This was, they got married in 58. They was arrested. Got put in jail. But before, it was illegal. Black and a white couldn't cohabitate in that capacity. It was illegal. They won the case in 1967.

It was a movie made about it. Mildred and Richard Loving. But I just don't get that. I mean, because I've had people on both sides of the aisle treat me good. I mean, me, I mean, for the most part, I look at the Internet with people talking crazy. It ain't the opposite race talking crazy to me.

It's my race. Yeah. It's my community. Yeah. It's my community. Right. So I'm so glad we're on this topic. So now that we're on this topic, you have no problem with dating outside of your race,

right? Still. I'm just asking. I've dated, I've dated outside of my race. Right, right, right,

right, right. Not, I mean, not a whole, it's not, I haven't dated a rainbow. It's not like I'm Asian or Hispanic,

things like that, but it's normally, you know, white and black. Right, right. Yeah. I don't have,

I don't have a problem. I don't have a problem with it. Okay. Okay. Does the outside noise, does the outside noise bother you. Does that deter you from dealing with them? No, you don't pay no bills. Ain't nobody. The only it doesn't really matter. My grandmother never had a problem with it.

And when I dated my my grandmother was like she would they would she would actually talk to them on the phone. If my grandmother didn't have a problem now, it probably would have been an issue. If my grandmother would have felt some type of way, I don't think I could have gone against her wishes because that's how much influence that she had on me. But because she embraced it. And I mean, when I was growing up, working on the farm and when we needed money,

my grandmother would go to Joe Tatum, the guy that we worked for, and says, Joe, can I borrow $30? These boys need to go there, so these boys need to get that. They'll pay it back when they start working for you in the summer. Right.

You could have said no. So when I look at it, and Miss Kills, man, Miss Kills treated me like she was my remedial reading teacher in high school and my Spanish teacher. And she taught she I mean, man, and that woman, the way she like I was her own child. She had no effing idea I was going to grow up to be what I became. But it didn't matter to her. She saw someone.

She saw a young black kid that was struggling because he was bull jiving around and she pulled me to the side and you know what she told me Ocho she said Shannon your brother is Sterling

that's not you don't you want your own right I taught him he was great in school yes he was great on the football field and you're great on the football field. You're great in basketball. You're great at track. But you you you effing around in here.

So when I was Spanish class where everybody else could call their classmates and talk, I had to call her and talk Spanish. I could teach you, you know, how good is your Spanish now? It ain't good. Bro, that was in 1987. So how long ago would that be? Oh, okay. That's a little minute. That's a little minute.

That's a little minute. All right. I did just enough because, you know, back then you had to have the classes that way to go towards graduation. You had to have those. So I just took that to get that up off there. I said, Miss Kills, I got to get up out of here. I got a beat, but I got up out of there.

So for me, Ocho, I don't have no problem when I see someone from Hollywood that's dating outside of their race. I'm like, oh, you get to Hollywood to get you somebody like that? That man wouldn't even look at you if you were. I don't do that. If I see somebody walking down the street, hey, that's you couple.

Oh, man, they look so happy. That's how I look at it because it doesn't rob me of anything. It doesn't rob me of energy. It doesn't rob me of money. It doesn't rob me of time. It takes nothing from me. So I don't get why so many people get so upset if it doesn't take anything from you. Yeah. It's been that way for a very long time. And something like that

will never change. It will never change. And just, I mean, I always say the same thing, man, date who makes you happy. And again, like me, I love everybody. It's always been a moniker of mine. It's something that I've always tweeted and always preached for the longest. And it's the fact that we're still on that, especially at this day and age. It is what it is. I think just our people, our race really wants us with us. And maybe there may be other races feel the same way, but they're not as happy. Yeah. Don't you want us happy? Yeah. Don't you want to be happy? And I'm not saying you can't be happy with your own race. Right.

But if I'm happy, if I find somebody and I'm happy with them, don't you want me to be at the end of the day? If that person isn't mistreating me, if that person isn't harming me, don't you want my happiness above all else? I want people to be happy. Above all else, Ocho, forget all of that. I want you to be happy. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily, forget all of that. I want you to be happy. Wake up with football every morning

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You happy? Very. Okay, yeah, yeah. I'm just making sure. She said sometimes. No, she said very. She said you just took me to the Usher concert, so I'm happy Yeah, well, shit, she paid for it, so

Ah, no, Rel Rel, you paid for it, come on, Rel Yeah, man She the breadwinner, not me What you want me to do? You know what the whole deal is Hey, Rel, hey, Rel, you making good money over here, Rel? Hey, you making good money? I know he ain't told you

listen, sir she making ten times what I'm making I'm not, man, fuck all that that's just temporarily that's just temporarily you got me? you got me? hey, hey

go ahead I can't even talk back right now let me know when the money start rolling in cause I can't even talk back right now. Let me know when the money start rolling in because I can't even talk back right now. Get out. Get out. You know, whoever controls the money controls the lot. Yeah. Hey, listen.

Boy, you ain't got to tell me. I'll be walking on eggshells sometime, boy. You ain't got to tell me. I'll be walking on eggshells sometime, but you ain't got to tell me. Help me out now. I remember my grandfathers used to tell my aunts they would like, he would like, okay, be back in the house at this time. And you know, they grumbled. My grandfather said, don't grumble

and stay. Grumble and leave. He said, don't tell me what I saw. You know what I am and stay under my roof. Right, right, right. Get your own place and tell me what a boat four I am. Yeah, I like that. And eventually they did.

Yeah. They got out of it. Oh, yeah, for sure. My grandfather ruled things with an iron fist. He didn't play. I mean, yeah. So it was the best. Right.

Hey, shout out to Puff who just donated $50. Puff, we appreciate that. Not P. Diddy. Puff. Good looking at that. That might have been Diddy. Hey, Puff, I appreciate that, baby. Puff, appreciate it. He can't get no credit for this with this Puff.

This Puff. This the Puff. He gave a whole $50? He gave a $50. He gave a whole 50 piece. Yeah. It's only a whole 50 piece. Yeah. What you think about this here? The NFL is not only allowing, but they're encouraging active players to participate in

flag football in the 2028 Olympics in LA. Everybody keeps saying the USA going to run away with this. Who's your quarterback in 20 this. Who's your quarterback? Okay, 2028. Who's your quarterback? 2028 quarterback.

Let's go Pat. Okay, you go Mahomes. Who are your receivers? Give me Tyreek, Justin Jefferson, and Jamar Chase. Now, you do realize that these guys are going to have to go both ways. So you just can't just load up, hey, okay, who are you going to be your DBs? Because you probably need a small – this is flag football now. Right, right, right.

You're going to need guys that's agile. So not only can they catch the ball, they're going to need to be able to pull flags too. Hold on, hold on. Okay, okay, I got you. All right. You know what? Asante Samuel Jr. Asante Samuel Jr. Give me... I'm trying to think of DBs that are

really twitchy. Give me Marshawn Lattimore and A.J. Terrell. No, Denzel Ward. I'm trying to think of people that are really twitchy, like twitchy, twitchy. Okay. Denzel Ward, Marsha. Terrell. No, Denzel Ward. I'm trying to think of people that are really twitchy, like twitchy-twitchy. Okay. Denzel Ward, Marshawn Lattimore, and Asante Samuel Jr.

Okay. Okay. Because, you know, Jamaicans got some speed too now. But the only thing about them, they don't know how to control that speed because they ain't a whole lot of Jamaicans. They don't play a whole lot of football over there. They're running straight. If it ain't soccer, if it ain't soccer,

they ain't ready. Yeah. We were running away with that now. You think so? Man, Olympics? Yeah. Ocho. But you do realize that

they got like these other countries, they've already started flag leagues. So we got flag leagues also. Yeah, we have very good flag leagues. Yes. So you said forgo those and let the NFL players come in. Yeah, that wouldn't be fair. That wouldn't be fair.

I'm just saying, honestly, listen, and no disrespect to the game of football today, but they damn near playing flag football now with pads on. Yeah, for sure. And I mean that with all due respect. Right. It's a different ball game. We understand why with the

head trauma, with CTE, with some of our most prominent players leaving early. And so we do understand, but it is a different game. The game is a lot more speed. It's a, the game is a lot more speed.

It's a lot more technical now than just so, so much, than less physicality. Right. So, you had to have skill,

obviously, but you had to have, well, you had to have a big one of these. Yeah. You had to have a, you got to have a big one. Because,

hey, guys are looking to change. Okay, we're going to get out of here on this one. Jared Judy says stats doesn't tell the story. You can be open, but the O-line don't do their thing. The quarterback didn't do his job. The O-Z didn't put you in.

A lot of stuff got to go through as a receiver for you to be successful. And guess what? The O-line can block. The quarterback can throw you the ball. The coordinator can call a great play, and you ain't get open. Now, who fought as that? Jerry Judy's in a tough situation. That's my dude.

That's home team. I love him to death. But all I need him is to put his head down and keep on chopping wood. Keep on chopping wood because you're in a situation that you can't win. It's an untenable situation. Jerry, I know you finna see this. You ain't going to win this one. Put your head down, put the dreads back in the ponytail, and then go to work. You know what you could do. I know what you could do. I done stood on

10 toes about you for the longest. Don't even give no bulletin board material. Don't give nothing else to talk about. You're in a situation, make the most of it. And if the situation's going to change, how about you? I need you. My dog, I need you to be the reason the situation changes. Be the go-to. Be the solution, not the problem.

Right. Well, that's in a situation where I wish you could have talked to him and said, I'm going to put that on me. I need to do a better job of getting open. I need to do a better job of getting open. I need to do a better job of winning my one-on-one. I need to be, I need to step up and have the coordinator have more confidence in me

because I'm doing my job. And when they watch the film, they don't have a choice but to give me the ball. Right. So that's how it was. I got to practice. They had to play me sooner or later. If I was cooking the guys

that they were sending out there to play on Sunday that was starting, they had to put me in the game sooner or later. They had no choice. And guess what? At first, they put me in. I was just blocking. But at some point in time, guess what? When they go back and watch that

film, they're like, man, 81 open. Yeah. Because I started out with 81 at first. And then I got 84. And they're like, hold on. Man, that quarterback went to the Pro Bowl. Right. He beat him.

Yeah. Hey, so now I come in on Wednesday, they got a little package for 84. Huh? Y'all got stuff for 84? Y'all got a little 84 package? Yeah. Okay. That's how it starts. And guess what? You get that little package? Got a little 84? Yeah. And it starts going from there.

Jim Fossil, rest his soul, he came in in 93 and said, son, I don't know if anybody's ever done this, but I will build my office around you. A tight end? Yeah. Oh, man. So now, done this, but I will build my office around you. I tied it in? Yeah. Oh, man. So now, imagine,

Ocho, imagine coordinator comes in, because Wade is my head coach now. He was the defensive coordinator. Wade Phillips. See, Wade was the defensive coordinator when I got to Denver. Mike Nolan was the linebacker's coach. Right.

Gary Kubiak, I played with Kub. Kub was my backup quarterback. Kub, the one that, of all the players, Kub helped me the most because Kub would tell me what to do. He's like, okay, they're going to put you in. They used to call me, because I was big in country,

they used to call me greasy. He said, greasy. They're going to put you in on this play right here. This is what you got. He said, if there's a safety in the middle of the field, you run the corner route. He said, greasy. They're going to put you in on this play right here. This is what you got. He said, if there's a safety in the middle of the field, you run the corner route. He said, if you see those safeties and they split, you go down the middle. Man.

Such and such. Get open. I'm going to give you the ball. Kube would come in and feed me. Bro, I'm in my second year. Back then, if a tight end caught a 10 or 15-yard pass, Kube would come in and feed me. Bro, I'm in my second year. So Kube come in. So back then, if a tight end caught like a 10 or 15-yard pass, you got $10.

So, yeah, back then there wasn't no salary cap, so they could do it. So Kube would come in. So I was running with the number two. Kube would come in and say, Greasy, let's go get some pizza money. So, oh, man. Okay. Okay, we're going to get that pizza money. So, oh, man. Okay. Okay, we're going to get that pizza money. I got me $30 because I'm going to hit them up.

I'm going to hit them up with, oh, yeah, for sure. Hold on, hold on. Oh, the pizza money was in practice, not the game. Yeah. No, in practice. We're in training camp. Oh, y'all are killing it. Oh, man. Man.

I like that. Cool with that. Hey, cool with that, hey, Greasy. Come on, let's get this. Hey, let's go get some pizza money. So, I'm getting in the game. He said, hey, Greasy, I. Man. I like that. Cool with an A. Cool with an A greasy. Come on, let's get an A. Let's go get some pizza money. So I'm getting in the game. He said, hey, greasy.

I'm coming. Man, please. Man, I'm cooking them backers. Okay. I like that. And then back then, I was too physical for them. I was too physical. I'm talking about they come try to press me. Uh-uh.

Man, get your ass out of the way. Nah. Yeah. I mean, they got a card. I'm talking about, they come try to press me. Uh-uh. Man, get your ass out of the way. Nah. I mean, they got a card. I got a card with Henley. The one that got in trouble, he tried to put a hit on you. He's running. He's doing cocaine. He tried to put a hit on the judge. He's serving 40 years. Play for the Rams. He tried to put a hit

on the judge. Oh, he tried to put a hit on the judge. Oh, he was in the league and had a whole cartel. Had a whole operation. Oh, he tried to put a hit on the judge. Oh, he was in the league and had a whole cartel, had a whole operation. Oh, he wasn't too much TV, man. He did try to put a hit on the judge. Oh, they gave him fault.

Fault in long run. Oh, so he out now? No, he ain't out. This was in, this was in 93? 93, 94? Might have been 94, 95. He got,

so what? So, 5, 15 been 94, 95. So what? 5, 15, 25, 25. Oh, he's going to pull all that time. Yeah, okay. He's going to pull all that time. Hey, he told the judge to say, Judge, I can't do all this time. The judge said, do what you can. Judge, do what you can. You can't do

it all. Just do what you can. And whatever you got left over, we'll let that go. But just do what you can. Yeah whatever you got left over, we'll let that go. But just do what you can. Yeah, yeah, man. But those were Black of the Days. Again, please hit that subscribe button and tell your friends to do the same. And remember, Sunday, we got a very, very special giveaway on Sunday. So on the episode of Nightcap.

So please stay tuned. Tune in Sunday. We got a special giveaway. This thing will be lit. Ocho, thank you guys for watching another episode of Nightcap what you got what you want to talk about

what you want to talk about Ocho now listen I just saw something right it quit excerpt so you ain't got no old lady right and I told you I was searching. I've been looking. I've been talking to some people, right?

And then it's so crazy, like, the speed of the process. Like, oh, shit, this really makes sense. Boom. You know, one plus one equals two. So I looked at it like, oh, I saw Kim K. She said, like, oh, I'm looking for an older man, you know, after my separation from Pete Davidson. I'm like, oh, shit'm looking for an older man, you know, after my separation from Pete Davidson. I'm like, oh, shit.

Like, that's crazy. Listen to me. Stay with me now, baby. Stay with me now. I'm like, oh, shit. It's perfect. I just talked to Unc, and Unc, I'm just saying, what Unc got going on, you know, the vision and being focused and him being busy. Well, Kim would be the perfect person because she busy and she be focused.

So whenever they have time to get together, boom, we get. And knowing what Kris Jenner, what she could do, what y'all coming to, y'all could be like a power, like a power, like Power Rangers or a power couple, whatever they call it. Like, what you think about that? Before I make that call, what you think about that? Man, Kanye ain't going to write no diss track about me. Well, he ain't going to write no diss track about me. Listen, Kanye is married. He's gone. He ain't even

in the picture right now. I'm saying this with all due respect. Before I make this call, think about what happened with Travis Kelsey. Stay with me. Understand, Taylor Swift came into his life and everything Travis Kelsey. Stay with me. Stay with me. Understand. Taylor Swift came

into his life and everything exponentially just shot up. Think about what Kim and that entity itself can do for Club Shake Shake. Huh?

Talk to me. Stay with me now. Let me let me let me know before let me know wait hold on let me see if let me know before i made the call first of all what you think i i read i heard what she said i read it in in the article okay okay she said she's looking for someone in her 40s clearly i'm not in my 40s wait Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You got to understand, you black, right? So you don't really have to be in it. You could be in whatever age you are. You look 40.

So it don't matter because we age different. We age gracefully. So you could, our 50 is really 40, sometime 30, depending on who you are. So you good. So you check that box. Now find me another excuse. I don't really have an excuse, Ocho, other than the fact that... Play it cool, man.

No, no, no. Ocho, the visibility, man. I'm a private. I'm too private. I wish you the best. I wish you the best in finding... Let's not play this game. Now, you were just on a goddamn date with Selena Gomez and tried to play it off like y'all didn't come together by leaving separately.

And it just so happened your car didn't come up in a goddamn time. Now you talk about you scared of some goddamn visibility. That's what you need right now. What we're trying to do, the vision that you have and the people that you have to take care of that you just named early in the show and trying to reach that pinnacle of success where y'all can at some point say, you know what, we done. You having that into your life can get you to that goal much faster than anybody else. Yeah, but I mean, for me. You need to rethink this because you're not thinking straight right now. Look, this is rethink this, because you're not thinking straight right now. You're not thinking straight right now.

That's the problem. No, I am. Look, for me, like, if I went away tomorrow, the kids, my sister, my mom, they're straight. Ain't nobody got to work the rest of their life if they didn't want to. Hopefully my kids are not like that and says, okay, I got this amount of money.

I'm done with it. I'm going to sit down and just chill. Hopefully that's not the case. Right, right. But now is for the opportunity for the people that's helping me with Shea Shea Media. All the people now from the ground floor

that started with me. When we grow and I say, look, guys, it's been a great run. But now it's time for me to enjoy some of the things that I've accumulated. It is time for me to step away. If they want to continue to work, that's them.

Hey, Ash, 20 plus years younger than me. Jordan, 30 years younger than me. Whatever. It can be CJ, whatever he wants to do. That's a decision that they can make. But I do want to put them in a situation. But if they say, you know what?

Man, I work part-time, but I ain't been to grind like we've grinded for the last 10, 5, 10 years. That's what I want to do. I want to be able to do for my workers what I've seen some of the other corporations do for the workers that got in at the bottom floor. The kids straight. The kids, the grandkids, they're going to be straight. Right.

I need you to see the bigger picture right now. Young, you're not seeing the bigger picture. Can you imagine? Let's just say for the sake of argument. Let's just say for the sake of argument. There we go. Now we on the same page now, baby. Talk to me. Bro, I went out with Kim Kardashian. Man, we'll wake up tomorrow

and Unc and Ocho would have 2 million subscribed subs. 5 million. 5 million. You would have 3 million subs. Yes, sir. Now we on the same page. Come on, Shea. You would have three million subs. Yes, sir. Now we're on the same page. Come on, now.

Come on. Kim, Kim, Kim. I know you're going to see this, Kim. Listen to me. Chestnut checkers, mama. You know, with all due respect. Look, what they've been able to do, I think they're an amazing family. Phenomenal. Phenomenal.

I mean, what Chris has been able to do, I think they're an amazing family. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. I mean, what Chris has been able to do for her daughters, a lot of times what Kim went through would have derailed, crippled anybody else's career. For them to clean that up, to package that, and to go to where they went to ascend to the heights. The highest, the highest of heights. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, I, I, I wish her the best though, Joe. I, I, I really do. Yeah. Don't worry about it. I got you. I'm going, I'm going, I'm going to make that call. I'm going to make that call because you know, I know people in high places.

I know, you know, yeah. Look high places i know you know people yeah look oh joe you know in the last in the last uh probably like two months yes sir i've been in touch with people and people will stop um hey give him my number no no no no no no but i'm talking about business you saw i sat up you. You saw I sat up, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Trust me, no women have reached out and tried to hit me with the number. But it's just the relationship and what Club Shea Shea

and what Nightcap and being on ESPN and what it's been able to do for my brand and the opportunity that I've been able to do for my brand and the opportunity that I've been able, that I've been afforded and I've been able to give you an opportunity and hopefully you can take it and like, okay, yeah, I like

Unc and Ocho, but hey, I kind of want to do something also. I want to... Yeah, I want to do first take and I've been asking for a whole month. I've been asking to do first take for a whole month and still to this day, I ain't getting nothing but excuses. But it's okay. But go ahead. Ojo, we were doing so good.

I mean, you was courteous. You was receptive to courtesy. You were understanding. And then, boom. I know. We still at square one. Sometimes, in life, all you need is to pick me up. I need you to be Travis Kelsey. I need you to be Travis Kelsey.

I need you to be my Taylor Swift. Bring me and put me on first take and I'll take care of the rest from there. That's it. Ocho, have you ever been on first take before? Yeah, about 20 years ago. About 20 years ago.

Yeah, 20 years ago. And I out debated Stephen A and Skip. Yeah, they couldn't touch me. They couldn't touch me. I'm sure they have your info. Yeah. No, no, no, no. I don't want them to call me.

I want you to give me the call so I can feel proud that, you know what, my partner, someone that I confide in, someone that I trust, someone that gave me an opportunity to have a little bit of visibility

got me that job. I don't want them to hit me. I want you to be like, you won't believe this. Bro, how do you expect me to get you a job? You have the power. You just said it. You have been afforded the opportunities

that have come before you. And that is where you take me, you take your partner with you. Well, listen, they got me this. That's what we're doing. And right now, our partnership, it might just be digitally. And that's okay. It ain't got to be digitally. No, I'm just saying it might not be linear.

We might not have a show on regular television. And that's okay. Right. Because think about it. Mr. Beast does $50, $60 million a year, and he's not on one regular channel. Everything he does is digitally. There are people, Joe Rogan, he's not on regular television. He does $30 million a year.

So we've got to get out of that mindset about TV. TV is great. I just want to go on first take once. That's all. You already own it. I like this is what we're doing. I ain't saying this has got to be. I'm talking about a separate entity in itself.

I'm trying to diversify my portfolio. I want my resume to say, oh, he's been on first take. Oh, he got clubs. Huh? Yeah. Do a little tech. A little oil and gas.

Yeah. Some of the financials. You be straight. I heard Bitcoin is making a comeback, but hey. I ain't trying to do all that, man. I need some. I need the people to see this occurrence. They see you right now. They're looking at you.

I'm looking at you, too. Yeah, I like it. But we good. I mean, we'll tap back in and we'll revisit this back in... What's today, Monday? What? Today, Monday. Wait, babe, what's today? Today, Thursday. Oh, it, what's today? Today, Thursday. Oh, it's Thursday.

Listen, we'll revisit this conversation Sunday. Oh, what? What are we going to revisit? Oh, just about what direction not we trying to go into, what direction we trying to go into as far as finding you a partner. We got to fix that because I love what you're trying to do, but it ain't going to be complete until it has the touch of a woman that

understands what you have going on and willing to sacrifice to take that journey with you. Hold on. Tyreek was just on TV the other day. Shannon Shaw was just on TV the other day and said Tyreek is the most dangerous weapon in the league. Like, oh, two years

ago, I couldn't do this. what did I say you couldn't do me no Tyreek Tyreek was on his podcast today and he said Shannon Sharp just the other day said Tyreek was the most dangerous weapon in the league like two years ago I couldn't do this what did I

say you couldn't do I'm always giving you your fly you started out. I said, you started out as a gadget guy. You taught yourself the route tree because mainly you was a punt returner. You had a little package. You were a punt returner,

kick returner. You have packages. You turn yourself into a great receiver. Now you're every down player and you're well on your way to the hall of fame. I think it was like when Steve Smith said, uh, Steve Smith and I had a conversation. Yes, sir. Uh, and when was like when Steve Smith said, Steve, Smith and I had a conversation. Yes, sir. And when I said hands, and he said

Tyreek was a body, he was a body catcher. Look. But see, here's the thing. Now, he took what I said, and let's just say for the sake of argument, he said what I said. Why he didn't give me, why, you see what he said? Oh, the other day, Shannon Sharp said he was the most

dangerous weapon. And two years ago. See, he didn't leave it at that. He went back. You see how the mind is wired? You see how the human mind is wired? Not the praise, but the something that I said that I don't remember saying it, but if I said I'm going to go back, I'd go back

and see. But I think over the years, it's probably 750 great things to one. But that didn't matter. Only, if you don't praise these guys in today's game, every single word that comes out of your mouth, I mean, I didn't

beat you up when your last year, there you had like three or four picks that went off your hand, three or four balls that went off your hand and got intercepted. I didn't kill you. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. So it's hard for me to –

But I still think he's a phenomenal receiver. I hope he goes over 2,000. I still think he's the most dangerous man in football. He is. Regardless of position. And so that's where it is. He's from Georgia. I have the utmost respect for him.

I met his mom when they came and did my podcast. So Tyreek, if you feel offended by something that I said, I apologize, bro. Yeah. Tyreek, why don't you tell the people how I locked your ass up in the offseason? Yeah, I'm the only one that uncovered him. Only one. I love him. I love him to death. Ocho, Ocho, you can't be no DB.

What you... Whoa! The footage is on film. Ask Tyreek what I did to him. Ask AB what I did to him. Ask Jamar Chase. Ask Devontae Adams. Ask Justin Jefferson how I locked him down. Ocho, Ocho, you got a...

Ocho, you got a flu footy, though. Who? You. A little bit how I locked him down. Ocho, you kind of slew footed though. Who? You. I am. That's why I can stop on a dime. That's what they call you. They call you back. They say when you were younger, they call you slew. The fact that I'm slew footed is why

I'm able to run full speed and stop like that. Yeah, man. I'm special, man is why I'm able to run full speed and stop like that. Yeah, man. I'm special, man. Special man. You ain't got to do that. Huh? Yeah, because I... You know what?

I saw it on YouTube, but I couldn't find it where he was actually saying it because he was talking. And, you know, I just tried to get to the part where he said that he called me out. But... You got to find it. You got to find it. talking and you know I just try to get to the part where he said that he uh where he said that he called me out but you gotta find you gotta find but it's called like uh updating your resume Tyreek so let me

ask you a question if you were to win offensive player of the year this year why didn't you win in the years past maybe some things change you see how that works Ocho yeah so are you gonna say well y'all didn't vote me offensive player four years ago what changed listen it's it's the nature of the it's the nature of the beast and understand and understanding I want our current players today um to be able to take criticism a little bit better understand that it's not personal, but they will remember it.

They will remember it. And I know because I'm still, I like to say I'm still young myself and not too far removed from the game. And anytime I hear anything negative, well, I'm one of the few who don't care. I just, you know, I just don't care what nobody say anyway. But at times it bothers the players at times. At times it bothers the players and it can affect them. And they remember that stuff and they hang on to it and they have a resentment towards the people that say some of the things that they say. That's why I'm so careful. That's why I'm so careful at times with being too critical, because I used to once be that player.

I used to once be on that field. I was once one of the players that dropped balls or had bad games. So to me, it's very hard for me to sit up here and be like, well, goddamn, you should have did this. Well, goddamn, you should have did that. Because I was once in that position. So I empathize

with them. Because you were in that position, you know what's capable for guys that's in that position. So you're not speaking from someone that doesn't know because Ocho, you've been an all-pro. You've been a Pro Bowl receiver. So you're

speaking from a point of knowledge. Right. See, those that can do, those that can talk about it. Right. So I already already did though and again this is this is training that i will do so i can so i can find that happy medium where i can be critical and still it's not you know what like my grandma used to tell me it's not what you say it's how you say it and that's all to come down, it's not what you say, it's how you say it.

And that's all that comes down to. It's not what you say, it's just how you say it. Delivery is very important. You've been married before, right? You've been married? No, no. No? Well, you had a woman.

It's not what you say, it's how you say it. Depending on who you're talking to, your delivery has to be on point. Ocho, you can tell a woman, say, babe. Yes, sir. I don't think you should wear that. Are you saying I'm fat? No, but I just tell you. You see what I'm saying?

Ocho, look at my delivery. Babe, I don't think you should wear that. It didn't matter because the way she perceived it. So it doesn't matter how you come at these guys. The mere fact, it's just the fact that you're not praising them. Because when you, Ocho, you know this, when you're a professional and you good and all you get is praise, praise, praise, and you don't hear anything negative,

when you hear negative, you forget about all the praise. That's why the wins never feels as good as the bad loss. Right, right, right. So no matter how much I've praised the player, I can praise the player for 10 years. The one time. The one time I say. Yeah, you're right.

You're right about that. You're right about that. Listen, we talk about life in general. Talk about when people always need something. And you always give, give, give. And then one time you say no. Oh, nigga, you ain't never done nothing for it, nigga, man. And that's how you act funny now?

Oh, it's like that? You got to put limits on what you give. Yeah. Because takers will never put limits on what they take. Oh, no, never. Never. So you got to put the limits on it. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Bro, Ocho, I can take 1,000 pictures. Yeah. I don't take 1,001. Man, I saw Shattersharp the other day. He ain't take no pictures. He too good. Bro, I just took a thousand. Yeah.

I signed a thousand autographs. Right. Oh, man. Man, I don't mess with that. Man, that ninja, man. He better. Bro. You can't please everybody. You can't. You cannot. It's impossible.

It's impossible. Once you realize that, no matter what you do right let's just say I had 30 billion dollars right you will if you talk to Kim but go ahead

let's just say for the sake of argument and I gave an institution 5 million he only gave him 5 million he worth 30 billion bro you count my pocket institution, $5 million. He only gave him $5 million? He worth $30 billion. Bro. You count my pockets. Why you count my pockets?

But you see what I'm saying, Ochoa? It's not the fact that I gave. It's that you didn't give enough. Enough, yeah. Man, share the shots. You do all this. It's always been like that, though. Always. It is. It's never satisfying to that though. Always. It is. Always. It's,

it's never satisfying to the people that's not even given. It's never enough. No. Not even given. So I've learned, Hey, I'm gonna live my life. I can't please everybody.

I'm going to be, I'm going to be the best person I possibly can. And that's all I got for you. So I'm not, I'm not perfect. I don't try to be perfect. I got for you. So I'm not perfect. I don't try to be perfect. I've made mistakes. I'm going to make some more. I'm going to make some more.

People make mistakes. And I'm a firm believer the best apology for a mistake is change behavior. Change behavior. That's a good one. I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that.

Now, I know you want to go because I know you got first take tomorrow. No. I'm sleeping in tomorrow. All right. Good. I'm glad you're sleeping in because we're going to stay on. The best apology is change behavior. You understand human nature in general. I understand human behavior. I do. You understand. And you understand that human error is inevitable yes right so i'm asking you as a father as a man how do you find that happy medium and always riding the fine line of being

on the always on the fine line of being always on the end of right instead of wrong? Man, Ocho, I really just try to set my ego aside and can see myself as that person. But you only do it if you set your ego aside.

Right. And pride. And see being coming from where I came from. A thousand square foot, cinder block home, cement floors, tin roof. People only see this aspect of Shannon. Right. The end product. Yes.

They didn't see the no indoor plumbing. They didn't see that. They didn't see having to, in the 80s, I'm not talking about 1930s, 40s, and 50s. I'm talking about the 80s. Shannon was going to the wood to relieve himself. So you didn't see that. You didn't see Shannon drawing well water. You didn't see that.

See, all you see is this. So I can empathize for somebody that doesn't have this now because I had that before. So I've divorced this Shannon because I remember that Shannon. And I realized that there are people that are less fortunate. I'm thankful that I have medical care and I'm able to get screened and I'm able to provide for my family. But I used to think the same thing, Ocho. I did it, why can't you?

And then one night, one night I just had a vision and I thought to myself, I was sitting on my bed. I said, because everybody didn't have Mary Porter. Everybody didn't have a Sterling Sharp. Everybody didn't have a Cheryl Sharp. So God put things in my life

that maybe somebody else has something else, but they didn't have that. So once I realized that, it was easy for me to just like, I never said, oh, they couldn't. No, you don't know. You never, unless,

when people say, Ocho, you know the saying is that walk a mile in somebody's shoes. And if you remember my Hall of Fame speech, I said, if you walked a mile in my shoes, you wouldn't do me justice. You need to spend 20 years of my life to feel what I felt, to eat what I ate, to live how I live. Because that one mile that you spent in my shoes might have been the best day of my life.

And see, now you've got a false sense of what it was like to be shut and shut for 20 years. Ooh. Come on, preacher. Come on preacher. So it's so easy for me to divorce myself, my ego and empathize with somebody else. I've never been a selfish

player. I've always been a team player. I'll take a hit for the team. I'm cool with that. I want to see everybody succeed. My teammates, I think people and people like you need to ask my teammates. And I'm not talking about and I'm not talking about the famous ones that got to say the right thing because if they don't, it might get out.

Ask the ones that's not and ask them how it was in the locker room. Go back to Glenville High. Go to Savannah State. Go to Denver. Go to Baltimore. Ask them. Ask the people at FS1. From the second floor down, what Shannon Sharp was like. Ask the security. When you go to the front guard gate, ask them what Shannon was like. When you go to the restaurant, Moe's, and where they got breakfast, ask them. Ask them in the ask them. Ask them

in the makeup room. Ask them in the wardrobe room. And then go to Denver and ask the equipment guy. Ask the people at the front. Ask the videographers. Ask the people in the training staff. Ask them.

Ask Mike. What the hell are you expecting to say? Don't ask John. What are you expecting to say? Don't ask John. What are you expecting to say? Right, right, right, right. Go ask the people. Ask Stephen A. Ask the people at the front.

What's he like? I know it's only been a month or two, but ask him. Go to Whole Foods. Go to Target. Ask those people. I like it. I like it. That's,

I just, I'm just who I am. You know, I don't put on no front. I don't try to be something I'm not. I'm who I am. I think that's why we get along so well. I think that's why we get along so well.

Everybody always talk about, oh, y'all got such great chemistry. Oh, y'all mesh well together. Well, I think what makes it so easy, because we're just being truly organically and authentically ourselves. So it just flows naturally. People have watched the show and said, God damn, boy, y'all great together. How long y'all been doing this? Well, shit, we ain't got no goddamn script. We ain't got no script.

But it goes so well. And everywhere I'm going, oh, goodness I'm in Vegas, people are like the show man, with you and Shannon, man, it's great how long y'all been practicing? Practicing? There ain't no practice what you see is off the rails what you're seeing is right off it's off the cuff

it's just natural and it just flows I think the thing for you is that you knew me, we had a little conversation, a little deal with each other, but not that much. And when I saw the cross from you in the restaurant, I said, look, I'm picking you because I think you can do it. I think we can do it. Because I think you can do it. I think we can do it. I think we can do great TV. And I said, all I want you, I want to put you in a situation where you can grow.

Now, what you do with what you do with the seeds that I give you, whether you choose to plant them, whether you choose to water them, whether you choose to fertilize them, that's on you. But I am going to give you the seeds to grow whatever you want to grow. And at the end of the day, that's it. So you will never say, oh, man, he ain't helped me. He could have gave me a chance. That's all I can do. Right. And have a level of respect. I respect what you did.

I respect how you did it. And at the end of the day, you know that I sincerely want the best for you. This is not transaction. You know I sincerely want you to succeed. I want you to be the best you can possibly be. Because I think you deserve this opportunity. I think you've earned this opportunity and not only, but to grow each show,

you get better and better, you get better and better. And eventually we're going to climb and we're not going to be number nine. We're going to be number one. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's what it's about for me. To give other people opportunities.

Yeah. I'm going to give you the opportunity. What you do with it, because a lot of times you give people opportunity. They say when you give someone an opportunity, when opportunity knocks, a grumbler complains about the noise. I like that. I give you the opportunity. Listen, you know what I did with it

I done planted my seeds I threw a little Viagra in there so it could grow a little faster I mean you laughing listen I'm in my element I'm in my element

talking sports talking life turn the cameras on and I'm ready I'm going I said listen you sports, talking life, turn the cameras on, and I'm ready. I said, listen, you tried to get off 30 minutes ago. You notice I'm still sitting there talking. I know you are, but I'm about to get off here right now, though. Hey, thanks for watching another episode of Night Camp.

I'm your favorite, Sheldon Sharp. He's your favorite, number 85, six-time Pro Bowl player, Cincinnati being a Hall of Fam a ring of famer, legend. Chad. Hall of Famer. Oh, you single. Dustin.

You Hall of Famer. Yeah, I'm a Hall, I made my own goddamn jacket. I'm a Hall of, 101. Well, you in the Liberty City Hall of Fame. That's good enough for me.

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