Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Lakers Dominate, Marvin Harrison's Decision, Dogs In the Bed

Episode Date: December 8, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the LeBron and the Los Angeles Lakers dominating New Orleans Pelicans in the semifinal round of the NBA In-Season Tournament, the New England Patriots beating Pittsburgh Steelers 21-18 on Thursday Night Football, whether Marvin Harrison Jr. should go to the NFL Draft or stay at Ohio State, & much more!00:00 - Introduction03:00 -Lakers beat Pelicans24:00 - Patriots beat Steelers27:00 - Marvin's next move50:00 - Fast Food prison sentence59:00 - Ocho the Stripper1:17:00 - Unc's fancy dog bed1:30:00 - Much more Nightcap! #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite sports uncle, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85 Cincinnati Bengal legend, ring of famer, the guy who's delusional and actually think his 05 Bengals could beat the 98 Broncos, Chad Ochocinco Johnson. Please, Ocho Cinco, Johnson. Please make sure you hit that like button. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Thank you. Thank you so much for getting us, Ocho. We're now at 416,000 subscribers.

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or a bottle for someone special. Ocho, we're going to do something a little different tonight. We're going to start with the Lakers at Pelicans. The Lakers dominate the Pels 133-89. LeBron James, 30 points, eight assists, five rebounds on 75% field goals, 100% from the three-point line, 100% from the free-throw line. And he did that in 22 and a half minutes. Let this sink in for a second.

The man is, what, probably less than three weeks away from his 39th birthday, and he scored 30 points in a game, the quickest in franchise history. It's the quickest someone has scored. Think about all the great players that have donned that Lakers uniform. Kobe, Magic, Shaq, Wilt, Micah. Oh, okay, A.D.,ilt, Micah, oh, okay, AD, Pau Gasol, James Worthy.

Who's the other guy? Connie, not Connie. Who was that? Played with Jerry West. Elgin Baylor. That's who it was. Elgin Baylor. Nobody has scored 30 points in a Laker uniform faster than what LeBron James did last tonight.

And the man is 38 years of age. You know, watch this game. What were some of your takeaways from the game? I mean, obviously, my takeaway was obviously LeBron. You know, it's a testament to what he's done and how he's taken care of his body throughout the years. And I heard some comments that he made about father time being undefeated. And he's going to be the first one to give father time has lost based on his performance tonight in such a short amount of time in a game that is of some significance being at the money that is on the line. Unbelievable. I mean, words can describe, there's a reason he has the chosen one tattooed on him.

There's a reason why we call him the king, you know, and he's living up to the hype. He's lived up to the hype and exceeded the expectations since he came out of high school, entering the NBA. He is 38 years old, getting ready to be 39 and doing things that 20-some-year-olds do on a consistent basis. The funny thing about it is most of the time, as you get older, you have your ups and your downs. You decline a little bit. You get to see small discrepancies in your game. Nothing. I haven't seen a weakness in LeBron's game to this point. And for him to be able to play at a high level this late in the game getting ready to be 39 is unbelievable unbelievable is and I and then the question to me it comes in

is the fact that he is such an imposing figure that he's that much more uh physically gifted than everybody else uh is he the best dribbler there is? Is he the best shooter there is? No, I think he's just all around probably the best basketball player I've ever witnessed in general. And I don't even watch the game of basketball like that. Just based on the little bit that I do know, he is fucking great at what he does.

I think the biggest thing, Ocho, is that when you look at it, your best players are your hardest workers. Let's take the NBA. Michael Jordan, one of your hardest workers. Kobe Bryant, one of your hardest workers.

Larry Bird, one of your hardest workers. Magic Johnson, one of your hardest workers. You go to football, you look at the Peyton Manning, you look at the Tom Brady's, you look at the guys

that were talented. Now, when we look at quarterbacks, we don't look at them as talented, but their mind is one thing. But to stay on top of that and to continuously work there is really no off season for those guys because they're spending countless hours even breaking down tape when there's no game to play on sunday right and so i think that's the biggest thing with lebron let yes i mean six nine 260 pounds and he's able i mean he has a calm, alone body,

but he can handle the ball like a Magic Johnson. God didn't create very many of those. That's a one-of-one. You know how it's like the Mona Lisa? That's a one-of-one. The Sistine Chapel, that's a one-of-one. LeBron James is a one-of-one. But the amount of money and the amount of time

and the amount of energy that he spends on his body and the time that he spends to be great because the thing that i tell people all the time when you are a great player and you start to age they don't compare you to great players that you're playing against now right they compare you to your younger self yes sir that's what they do with the greatness that's when you know you're great when they compare you at 38 to when you was 27, to when you was 30. And that's what they do with LeBron. And you're absolutely right.

And I'm not saying that I was a great player like LeBron, but in my sphere, as I started to age, Ocho, what I couldn't do is to give you the back-to-back 100, 125 touchdown, two touchdown games. I could give you one in September,

might throw another one in there in October, might get you two in November. But if I skip November, best believe one was coming in December. I just couldn't give you those games back-to-back-to-back-to-back. But LeBron James, if you look at him, Ocho, I mean, he's averaging 26, 27 points a game, and he's shooting at a high percentage than he's ever shot before. At 38, he can still get to the basket. He can still locomotive,

but the jump shot, it seems like it's a little purer. Tonight, he was perfect from the three point line and it was him because they got up to the fast start. The Pelicans will it down. They come up, they take a lead. He checks back in the game start the uh uh the pelicans will it down they come up they take a lead he checks back in the game in the second quarter it was a wrap he took off he took off but he hears see the thing what people when athletes say i don't even listen to the media you might not but guess what you got a homeboy that does your wife a significant other does your parents don't so he heard what they said oh i think bi and zion are better duo than than ad and lebron i think uh zion has a high upside at this stage bro you don't get great without being able to draw down and summons it up. Because when you tell me somebody better than me, I got to

show you that they're not. That's crazy. Also, I have another question. The playing tournament, they're playing extremely well. Obviously, the Lakers have to play the Pacers coming up. You know when they play? They play Saturday.

You know, Vegas ain't that far from L.A. There's a strong possibility. Strong, strong, strong possibility. I'll be there. You got two tickets? Hell, I don't even know if I got one yet. Okay, okay. Let me know.

I'll wait for it. You and John over there too? I mean, yeah. They got a spare flight for two. I already looked it up. They got a spare flight for $234 and I can get there. I got to make a stop, but I ain't worried about making no stop. Long as I get there. May the spirit of the Lord be with you on that flight. But what I wanted to ask you though, when, from a basketball standpoint, obviously with them being in playing and LeBron playing to the magnitude that he is. He, at his age, do you think he can keep that up? Or will AD at some point have to come in and do what LeBron said at the beginning,

saying this is his team, this is his team. At what point will AD play like that and stop the inconsistent rollercoaster week in and week out and provide some type of consistency where, you know what, LeBron can take a night off and AD can take over and get that 26, 26, 11 and five or whatever it is, whatever it is he, he should be doing as good as he is. I think the thing is, Ocho, is that what we've seen is that we look at the Lakers just this year, not going back any further than just this year. There are different team when LeBron's on the court than when he's not. It's just, remember how I said a great quarterback gives you that comfort level that you don't hope you expect?

That's what he does. He's the calming effect. He's the medicine. No matter how helter-skelter it gets, no matter how big a lead the opposing team got, well, we got that guy. And we know he can catch fire. And we saw him tonight hit three threes in a row,

drive the basketball. And now everybody's like, hold on. He can do that? We know he can drive the basketball. We know he can get down on the block and command the ball. But now he's shooting threes. What chance do we got? Because if we hug up on him,

he's going to go by us. If we lay off on him, he's going to shoot the three on us. And he had eight assists and no turnovers so now not only is he scoring he's making it easier for everybody else to score you look at 16 and 15 austin reese 17 5 17 5 and 7 torian prince 15 points 5 of 8 from 3 d low 14 points ruy 12 points when you get that kind of balanced scoring and you can get LeBron to go for 30, and he doesn't even seem to work up a sweat.

Now, it's not going to be easy because I don't know if you watched the earlier game. I watched Indiana take apart. I mean, they took them apart, the Bucs. And the Bucs got, you know, we know what they got. They got Greek Freak and they got Dame Lillard. But Halle,

Tyrese Halliburton is on another planet. Yeah. Because not only is he giving you 27, 30 points on a nightly basis, he's giving you 13, 14 assists on a nightly basis and minimal turnovers. We've seen guys give you 12, 13 assists, but they somehow sprinkle in four, five, six turnovers. He had 15 to 16 assists tonight, zero turnovers. The same thing the other night.

So when you get that kind of point total, you get that kind of assist total, and the guy isn't turning the ball over, they're going to be hard to beat. They're going to be hard to beat. And they play at a pace because they're young. Ocho, you remember when you were young? You could run all day.

Boy, get back outside and play. Okay. Ooh, boy, stop playing with that damn screen, though. What's wrong with you? Right. But you right, get back outside and play. Okay. Ooh, boy, stop flippin' that damn screen, though. What's wrong with you? Right. But you right, Ocho, you right back outside. You run. How many games could you run if you play basketball?

We play basketball. I can run 10, 8, 9, 10 games in a row. All day. All day. All day. We play football. We running up and down in the fields, and we running up and down the road.

When you young, you can do that, and that's what they got, them young legs over there. So the Lakers are going to have to be careful of not to get in an up-and-down game with these young guys. So they got to slow the game down then, basically. Nobody can slow the pace down like LeBron. LeBron's going to make you play at his pace. If he wants to get up and down, he will get up and down.

If he don't, give me the ball, and you're going to play, hey, we're going to play you play at his pace. If he wants to get up and down, he will get up and down. He will, right. If he don't, give me the ball and you're going to play, hey, we're going to play in the half court set. And that's what you have to do to beat a team like this. You know, people will say, but let me tell you something, Ocho. This is what I've learned in taking the temperature of social media. Now, you know the play-in tournament ain't going to mean anything if LeBron win it.

Kind of like the bubble championship. Now, if somebody else had it. Whoa, whoa, whoa. ain't going to mean anything if LeBron win it. Kind of like the bubble championship. Now, if somebody else had it. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Why didn't it mean anything? If they having a play-in tournament, they having a play-in tournament for a reason. Because it's LeBron. We've got to find another way to minimize anything that he accomplished. Remember when he won the bubble?

Oh, the bubble. Oh, so what did he, what advantage did he have? What advantage did he have that the other what did he have? What advantage did he have that the other teams didn't have? They found out, okay, we're going to play. We're going to have a championship. We're going to go down to Orlando because the circumstances require us

to be in a quarantine setting. Hey, everybody's going to go down there. You're going to get quarantined and you're going to be in this bubble. Everybody's going to have to stay down here. Hey, when you lose, you're gone. But as long as you win, you can. So everybody was under the same situation.

Oh, but it's cubic zirconia. Now, the moment if LeBron James were to win this, oh man, that wasn't worth nothing. Right. But if somebody else win it, oh, Kobe would have won. Jordan would have won.

This one would have won. Right. You got to do whatever you can to try to minimize the man's greatness. But because he's been great for so long and not just great. We're talking about historically. We're talking about transcendent or transcendental. That's how great he's been. We got to try to instead of appreciating it.

And sometimes we don't really appreciate things until it's gone. We've all been in relationships. We took advantage of that person's kindness and even what she was doing or what he was doing. And then when they left, you realize how special that person was. Everybody isn't necessarily replaceable because we have that mindset. Oh,

I just go find me someone else. No, it ain't like that. And the funny thing about it, it necessarily replaceable because we have that mindset oh i just go find me someone else no it ain't it ain't like that and the funny thing about it and it goes and not just relationships just in life and journey when you meet people friends sometimes even family and when it comes to sports figures sports figures like lebron or you think of the jerry rice's and um you see some of some of the great quarterbacks you think those players players are replaceable. Other great players will come along. But those type of players, you have to appreciate them while you're here because what LeBron is doing and what LeBron has done.

You may never see it again. You may never see anything like that again. Now, you might get some close. You might get some phenoms. You might get some unbelievable freaks of nature that play the game of basketball. But what he has been able to accomplish since reaching the NBA, coming out of high school, I don't think we'll ever see anything to that magnitude,

especially this consistent for so long. But here's the thing. Normally guys that played this long, they were big Kareem. They were Robert Parrish. There was Kevin Willis. There was Dirk Nowitzki. They weren't athletic like LeBron. They weren't required to run the show like LeBron. You look at BC, Vince Carter, although he played a long time, most of these guys came off the bench.

LeBron James is a starter. He's playing 33 to 35 minutes on a nightly basis. Some nights, he's playing 38 to 40 minutes on a nightly basis. And he's giving you 27. He ain't nightly basis. And he's giving you 27. He ain't giving you seven. He ain't giving you two. He's just not, well, I'm just holding on.

He's playing at a level that if I didn't tell you his age, you wouldn't know his age. It's the situation, Ocho, we were talking about everything is replaceable. I remember my aunt, I ain't gonna say her name,

rest her soul, but she broke up with her boyfriend. And my grandmother really liked this guy. Guy would go to church, he'd pick my aunt up, take her, bring her when she needs something, he would get it. She broke up with him. And my grandma said,

well, I don't know why you broke up with him. She said, mama, they plenty fish in the sea. My granny said, yeah, but you might not catch them. But that's a good one. That's a good one. And you know, I know that happened to a lot of people, especially a lot of women that feel that is one thing about it. I'm just short tidbit really to bounce off,

bounce off what we talking about, about people being replaceable and always thinking with women. Sometimes when women are with certain individuals, you get so much attention from other men. You get so much attention to other men. You lose sight of what you got at home sometimes. And the funny thing about it is everybody wants you. Everybody wants you when you're not their responsibility.

Everybody loves you when they're not your responsibility. And the minute you free, the minute you free up and you can become his responsibility. Oh no, I didn't want you no more. They don't want, they don't want you no more. Uh,

Oh, Joe. And I'm not telling you something. Someone told me, I'm telling what you, what I know. Nothing makes you feel better than a new set of eyes. You see when, when, when she's looking at you, it doesn't feel the same

if it's the woman walking across the street and she's turning back and look at you. Yeah. Or she don't, and she give you that smile. Hey, how you doing? Come on, preacher. There's nothing like that. And so you have to be careful. Because I've been in situations is that I'm like, oh, okay. You think your boy like that? You like all this?

Yeah. You like, you like, you like 250 built like a brick out house. Yeah. But the same thing that the one that you're with is telling you, it doesn't sound as good to the ears. The funny thing about it is like, I meant, this is so funny. Me and real, with is telling you it doesn't sound as good to the ears as the one over there. The funny thing about it is like, I meant this is so funny. Me and Real, we talked about this earlier today. It's so funny when you tell you, when you, when Real tell a kid something over and over

and over and over and over and over. And the fact that they always hear a voice and always hear a voice, they listen, but they don't do it right away. But then when they hear from somebody else that you don't hear from all the time and i gotta say it one time and it get done right away yes it's somewhat of the same concept and same analogy when you're hearing it from the same person all the time hearing it from your man and i hate i'm just being honest when you hear it from your man and hearing it from your girlfriend your boyfriend oh you look good oh you look beautiful in that dress oh you look gorgeous today but to

hear it from a different voice that you don't hear from all the time it hits different no matter what anybody says it just does it's human nature it's natural there's no need to the the shy from it i mean it just it is what it is my kids just say well daddy all you all you you keep complaining you keep asking us to do stuff over and over I said I wouldn't nag you if you did it the first time it only becomes nagging because I gotta ask your ass over and over

but then I got to the point that I realized my kids really is like their moms I don't know what it is because my voice projects it carries and so when I say something the first time i'll get done the first time it's thunder the next time was lightning right right so i i ain't finna keep telling i ain't finna i ain't finna tongue wrestle with you all night i tell you one time that's it

right so because my grandfather always said boy you never ration with a child you never have to explain yourself to a child you told the child to do something that's it well why boy my grandfather would lose his mind hearing why what right a child ask question an adult why are we going here why are we doing this why we got to eat that right man barnum porter didn't play that. Mary Porter didn't play that. Right. And if Granny said something, it was the same as Papa said something. Because we already know. If Papa ever came home and Granny said, Barney, you know them boys, it was over.

It wasn't no question asked, Mary, what did they do? What did they say? Barney, you know them boys ain't. It's over. Right. If he came home and one of them girls,ney ain't play that so i learned early on to do something right the first time and so whether he said it or she said it it didn't matter it was all coming from one and there was no well go ask your granny if if he said go ask mary granny and she said no don't go back to him because he's an earshot it meant no and she said well i don't know you need to go ask

you need to go ask barney i mean why would i even go back to grant if he said no right you already know what it is they were they were They were in straight lines with that. So the Lakers advanced to the first ever in-season tournament. The winner will get $500,000, which is a lot of money to a lot of these guys. Now, LeBron James, LeBron James is doing like $130 million. You're owning off the court. $500,000. But it's the fact.

It's a competition. Yeah. When I shoot pool, when I roll dice, I'm rolling dice. I used to roll dice with guys. Bro, what is $20 to me if I hit a lick? Nothing. But the fact is competition. Competition.

I got to win. And I don't want you to beat me. Right. So that's how these guys looking at it. Some of these guys, excuse me, you know, making 50, $60 million. They don't do nothing. But what about the guy that's on a non-guaranteed contract? What about the guy that's on a two-way contract?

$500,000 is going to do a lot for him. A lot, yeah. Yeah, and so now you're thinking about it because that's how we thought we'd go into the playoffs. Now all of a sudden, guys get in that pool. So now the practice squad guys, they're going to get salaries for an extra week or an extra two weeks or an extra three weeks, or they're going to get part of the Super Bowl money, the playoff money.

I thought about things like that. The coaches, now all of a sudden, they get some of that playoff money. I mean, unless you're Coach Belichick or Pete Carroll, some of these coaches that's making $7, $8 dollars right but for the most part not when i was playing at ocho guys coaches didn't make that kind of break right so that was good and so i thought about that and plus the uh the workers the uh the trainers the equipment staff now all of a sudden you know because we always took up money and you know i always gave a large sum of money because i appreciated them and i know that's their job.

Right. Is to, if you're an athletic trainer, to tape my ankles to make sure I'm healthy and get back on the field. I understand the equipment manager is to make sure my uniform is clean

and hung up in my locker and all of that stuff. And I understood it was a janitor, the custodial services and the people that prepare. I got all of that, Ocho. I understood that.

But it was just something in me because I was fortunate. God looked down on me and said, you know what? I'm going to be a football player. And I'm going to give you discipline. I'm going to give you determination. And I'm going to give you dedication. But in return for that, I need you to pay it back. And so that's how I thought about it, Ocho.

That's just me. Now, everybody, I mean, some people give $40 something, and I'm fine. Just give what you can. Just give what you can. But, you know, the guys that made, you know, we was making $3, $4 million back then. What's $5,000, what's $10,000 to a guy that's making that kind of money?

You right. You right. The Patriots beat the Steelers 21-18. It's the first time in NFL history the Steelers, which is a team that was 500 or better, have lost consecutive weeks to teams that was under 500 by at least eight games. In the second start of the season, Bailey Zappi completed 19 of 28 passes,

240 yards, three touchdowns, one interception. He made some plays for the Patriots that we haven't seen their quarterbacks make this year. But the team didn't score in the second half and only had one drive to gain more than 20 yards. Steelers in it. When you watch this game, Ocho, what do you take away from it?

When I watch the game, I try to understand for the life of me, how was Mac Jones starting this long? No disrespect to him, how was Mac Jones starting this long? I mean, no disrespect, no disrespect to him. How was Mac Jones starting this long when the Patriots offense looked like a completely different offense that I haven't seen since Mac Jones has been the starter.

Right. What I saw in the first half from Bailey Zappi, he 14 for 21 for 196 and three touchdowns in the first half. Well, obviously I don't know what happened in the second half. They let off the gas a little bit, obviously, with the creativity and the play call and allowed the Steelers to come back into the game. But listen, there's your future right there. There's your future right there because the offense looked completely different.

We in week what, 13? We in week 13, right? Yes, yes. We in week 13. I ain't seen what I just saw from the patriots all year long and all of a sudden bailey zappy's in his second start and they look like a completely different team a completely different team that allow the play calling defensively to operate at its own manner allow belichick and jabril peppers and them boys do what they need to do and the

offense did what it needed to do obviously the Steelers tried to come back late there was a fourth and two I think they I think the first fourth and two I think they should have went for that they didn't go for it obviously analytics saying you should whatever I'm not sure Mike Tomlin chose not to go for it this is a game that they needed to win if I'm not mistaken I think they really needed this game, so they didn't fall behind. But other than that, I mean, kudos to the Pages. They won. I mean, they 3-10. It's nothing to goddamn hoop and holler.

It ain't nothing to hoop and holler about. But still, it was a little promise. It was a little promising for them from an offensive standpoint because the one problem that they've always had is a quarterback position and turning the goddamn ball over all the damn time, even though Zappy had an interception. Check this out, Ocho. Should Marvin Harrison stay or should he go? Marvin Harrison, Ohio State, I think he's a junior.

Marvin Harrison, junior? Junior. Check this out. Hold on. Has allegedly been offered NIL deals that would rival first round draft pick money to keep him at Ohio State for the 2024 season. People actually think he should take it. Dan Bryant tweeted because of the NIL deal,

I would love for him to enjoy his college career and do something that's never been done. College football is more fun than the NFL these days. I tweeted, I said, Dan, stop giving these kids this bad information. This is what,

okay. Last year, the number one pick in the draft got $24.8 million to sign. Yes, sir. The number two pick got $23.6 million to sign. The number three pick got $22.8 million to sign. That's to put your name on an NFL contract. That's the money they got. The fourth pick in the draft got $21.9 million to sign. The fourth pick in the draft got $21.9 million to sign.

The fifth pick in the draft got $20.4 million. If I'm not mistaken, I think the number one overall pick got about $40 million, fully guaranteed. If I'm not mistaken, I think Bryce Young, his entire contract is fully guaranteed at $40 million. Right. But by coming out, guess what it does? It gets you closer. harrison being to a wide

receiver it gets him closer to that 150 200 million dollar contract that he signs after his rookie contract and because football is such a high-risk sport right you would be foolish right i give you that you remember marcus latimer the guy from south carolina they had a first round grade the running back yeah coming through the hole i remember boom yeah so for me it makes a ocho let's just say for the sake of argument there is a finance student pick any college you want to go right he's a junior he's a sophomore and jp morgan comes to him say son you know what we really like what you do you're above your head and shoulders above your anybody in your class we're willing to give you somewhere between 1.3 1 million and 3 million annually to take this job at jp morgan now what do you think the average college student is going to do?

Take that job. He's going to take the money because you go to college to earn a degree, to make money. So somebody wants to speed the ladder up. Somebody wants you to make the money first. And then I saw people say, well, you know,

NFL will be there. Where the hell college going? You know, these colleges have been around longer than the NFL. Yeah. You could always go back to school and get a degree. Yeah. But I think,

I think you, you forget, you forget about the, the, the money part in which they're trying to entice him to stay for another year. They're trying to pay him NIL money that will rival that of first round money. I'm not sure if they'll guarantee no 20, 30 million.

Yeah. I would just get ready to say that. I would just get ready to say that. I would just get ready to say that. Are they going to guarantee him that kind of money? Because he would be probably the second pick. He's the best receiver in the country.

I believe he'll be at least top five. I believe he'll be at top five. He ain't going past three. But I'm just saying, that's top five, Ocho. Okay, okay, my bad. I'm just saying top three. Don't even say five.

Top three. But I'm saying top five you know normally when they top five pick right so that's why that's why i just listed the guarantee money that the top five people got i think most most people suspect that caleb williams would be the number one overall pick because he plays the quarterback position right but but you need to stop because you got to stop telling these kids this because the risk factor with the NFL is just too great. We've seen guys, I mean, it's a different ball game.

You tear, you rupture your Achilles in college. You tear an ACL in college. It's different. It's difficult to make up that lost revenue. Right. It is. And so up that lost revenue. Right. It is. And so, first of all, you know they're already looking for a reason not to give you your money.

Oh, always. Always. Definitely. The injury-prone, well, you know this or that. Yeah. Bro, get your money because of the rookie scale. It's not, Ocho, when you came into the league, rookies, I remember Sam Bradford got $50 million. Never played a dime the league rookies I remember Sam Bradford got 50

million never played a down got 50 million Sam Bradford got 50 million 50 million off the rip from the Ram he was he was the last one that got the deal because what the owners did see let me tell you how the owners got slick they went to the players and say man we don't think players that's never played a down right should get that kind of money that's making Peyton Manning and all these guys type money. What we want to do is put a rookie pay scale in and then we can take care of the vets. What they do, Ocho, put a rookie pay scale in

and then cut the vets. See how they boot them? Yeah, yeah. Man game. It's chess. It's chess, not checkers. Fail for it. Book, line, and sinker.

No. I want everybody to get what the market of beer. Yeah. If I go to JP Morgan, if I go to one of these broker's house, and they want to pay me top dollar, who am I to say, well, you know what? This is my first job. You know what? I don't think I work with like $250,000.

I don't think I work with $100 000 i don't think i worked but 100 000 no but i have a question sure now you got to understand this is a power five school ohio state ohio state probably have some of the most wealthy boosters that there are there is yes now depending on how true the facts are about them rivaling the money that he get as a rookie going in. Do you think it's possible that the booster could all come together and actually pay equivalent to what he would get as a rookie? They could,

but what happens? What would be your choice? If, if, if it is that I'm just curious to hear your opinion. My opinion would be to go. My opinion would be to leave. I'm trying to listen as, as a kid. Pinnacle childhood dream, father of the son of the great Marvin Harrison.

You know where I'm going. I'm out of there. But I'm just saying if the money that from the NIL deal rivals that of what he would get as a rookie coming in. What do you do? You still stay or do you double up? Or do you say, I'm betting on myself, I'm not going to get hurt. I'm going to go back and play again, get that bag and come back and hit him across the head and probably be the first pick next year. This is the NFL.

This is football. The risk is far too great. Ocho, we've seen it all go away in a single play. Yes, sir. We've seen it go away. They not, I don't believe ain't no NIL deal

going to guarantee 40 million or guarantee 30 million. Right. We saw Caleb Williams, we saw Shadur Sanders getting five million. You think an NIL deal going to guarantee

more than a coach? Well, wait a minute now. Think about what school we're talking about. We're talking about a power five school. They're not going to guarantee him more than a day? The Boosters can guarantee whatever they want to. They can.

The Boosters can guarantee whatever they want to, especially, listen, to bring him back. You already know it's going to take hell and high water to do it, to even get him to thinking, oh, you know what? What's your goal? Tell me what your goal is. What was your goal? To play in the NFL? If somebody said, oh, you can go to the NFL,

but you won't have to go to college. Are you going to college if you didn't have to go to the NFL? Are you going to the NFL? I'm going to the NFL. Thank you. Because I don't think his goal was to play. It was a means to an end. I got to go to college in order for me to get to the NFL.

But if somebody's going to, hold on. If somebody, you go to college to get a degree, make money. Now, somebody wants to speed that process up for you, Ocho. If you're a student, let's just say I play piano I'm a pianist in Carnegie or some famed opera house comes we like you

they not turning that down why do they expect athletes but most of the time who do athletes look like Ocho huh who do they look like you know Who do athletes look like, Ocho? Huh? Who do they look like? You know. No, exactly. I ain't gonna say it.

Yeah. Yeah. So turn that down. Right. An opportunity. I can come back and get my degree. Right. I can take online classes and get my degree.

This is the NFL. This is an opportunity. This is what you laid in your bed at night. I didn't lay. Look, I'm just speaking for me, Ochoa, and I'm going to ask you what you. I did not lay in my bed when I was a kid saying, man, I can't wait to go to college.

Woo. That's going to be an opportunity that I can take care of my grandmother. I can take care of my family. Right. I'm looking up at this. I'm looking up that tin roof. Like, man, college is where it's going to be at.

I understood in order for me to get to my final destination, I had to have a layover. It's like sometimes, Ocho, you can't fly direct. Sometimes, no matter what the airline is, you got to have a layover. College was the layover. But if I could have had a direct flight, well, I'm taking a direct flight. And most people, if cost is not an issue, they would prefer a direct flight. Right, yeah.

Most definitely, most definitely. I like it. And if I get an opportunity, Ocho, to get 30 million, but the bigger thing is I take a year, I'm a year closer to 200 million to 300 million yeah so that's how you have to think i can come back i'll come back i'll come back i can if i wanted to come back and have the college experience right i did right i was i was two uh quarters

short of my degree i came back i didn't stay on campus. I lived off campus. Hey, boom. But it wasn't, no, I mean, people weren't taking the online classes like they do now. And I'm not so sure. Savannah state had online classes at the time, but for me, it's a,

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Yeah, you know, I'm curious if you can, if you ask in the chat, do the poll. How many would stay in? How many would stay in college and how many would leave? And I'm sure that the money factor plays a big determination on whether people stay or not. But I'm just curious to see what people people's thoughts are and their opinions on the on the on the matter. But obviously, if I was Marvin Harrison, Jr., and I'm sure Marvin Harrison, Sr. also is probably, you know, telling the same thing. You know, baby, this is something we worked on and we waited on all our life. And I think it would be in your best interest

to enter the draft and hit that next step. Well, he has a father. He has a father that's been there and done that. Sometimes, Ocho, I would give my kids advice and somebody else would give them the same advice. It's just that it came from me. They're either, oh, you my dad,

what you know? Right, right. I would try to give my son pointers. He ain't listen to me. He listen to the coach. I'm like, but your dad play in the league. Yeah.

He ain't play. Yeah. I'm telling you how to run around. I'm telling you what to do, what to do. The new voice. The new voice. The voice that they're not used to hearing.

Ocho, what do I know about football? Nick Bosa, outstanding defensive player of the year, Nick Bosa said, Jalen Hurts has been figured out. Jalen is looking at the rush every play. You have to be disciplined and not give him a quick escape route where he can get off, get, get to his guys quick.

It paid off. Obviously we put the blueprint out there. Hopefully the Cowboys watch the tape. What is your take on Nick Bosa's comments and have they figured out Jalen hurt? No, they haven't figured out Jalen hurts. Obviously.

Listen, the Eagles are 10 and two Eagles didn't play a goodalen Hurts. Obviously, listen, the Eagles are 10-2. The Eagles didn't play a good game. They lost 42-10, 42-19. I'm not sure what the end score was. They had Jalen Hurts. Yeah, 19. They had Jalen Hurts extremely uncomfortable, didn't allow him to settle into the pocket and make some of the throws that we're used to seeing. He had to run, he had to scramble. There were some times he had like six, seven, eight seconds in the pocket and had no one to throw to. The makeup and the DNA of that 49er defense in its totality is different than any other team, all 31 other teams in the NFL. There ain't no other teams or defenses exactly like that. They match up extremely well, extremely well across the board from the interior

to the secondary to the second tier all the way across the board. And I'm not even going to talk about the goddamn 49ers offensively. They is a different juggernaut right now. But as far as them having a blueprint, other teams don't have the same personnel

that the 49ers have to execute the same way they did when they just played them boys the other night. So, no, you didn't give anybody the blueprint because even if they do have the goddamn blueprint, you don't have the personnel or the players to execute it the same way the 49ers did. Yeah, I agree with you. And just because you beat someone, that doesn't mean there's a blueprint. You won. No. Now, and like you said. You a blueprint. You won. No.

You won good. You didn't just win. You won convincingly. But, Ocho, we've seen teams get beat. We saw Mahomes get beat several times last year. So, every time somebody wins, oh, we got the blueprint is out.

Really, dude? Really? One game game so now they've lost two games yeah it's okay you did a great job you did a great job of taking away the quick throws yes they want to run a lot of what we call under routes i don't know what y'all call them in today's time we call them a quick push-up come right now one guy cleared the guy comes up with a knee okay they did a great job of taking that initial throw away. And that's what you want to do. You want to take his initial throw away. And now I want to funnel him.

I want to try to keep him in the pocket. I'm not going to run past him. Once I get even with him, I want to level off. Because if I run past him, Ocho, he's going to jump out the window and take off on me. And he gone. And somebody with legs like Jalen Hurts or Lamar Jackson or Justin Fields, the one thing you don't want to do is run past them. Yeah.

Because you ain't chasing. I don't care who the lineman is. I don't care if it's Miles Garrett. One of those guys jump out the window, you better hope you're not in cover five, which is 22 man, with the guys back to him. Because ain't nobody back there catching him going that-a-way. So I agree with you.

I do not believe that the poll. Play one more year at Ohio State, 12%. Go to the NFL, 88%. Okay, I figured that. I'm glad everybody's on the same page. I would love to know who the 12% is and why they would want to stay, but that's neither here nor there.

Murph donated $10. I disagree. That $40 million can stay $40 million with a bad organization versus a team, versus a need for a team. This is what NIL is for. It makes college. Who said, so who would just say

that Ohio State is going to beat Michigan next year? So now he stayed another year to do what? So they don't win the Big Ten. They don't win the national championship college football playoff next year. Then what? Murph, appreciate the $10. We really appreciate you watching. But see, because what you gave me is a scenario, him going to a bad team.

Now give me the scenario in which he doesn't win the Big Ten, in which he doesn't win the college football playoff, and he gets hurt. Now what? What you going to say, Murph? Don't let another $10 come in with another question. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. Because you see what it is?

$40 million going to a bad organization. Okay. When is $40 million bad, Ocho? I don't know. I mean, listen, I'm not saying $40 million is bad, but Bryce Young, he got $40 million, right? How they looking over there?

Okay, he could have went back to Alabama. But he didn't go back to Alabama. And you understand, you see the circumstances and situation that he's in now but you understand Ocho when you come out in the draft you're not going to a good so you think that Bryce Young is supposed to go out and be able to go to Kansas City

or be able to go to Kansas City come on man exactly all the good teams got quarterbacks so if you're a quarterback where you think you going it's just like in basketball where you think you going? It's just like in basketball. Where you think you going if you... So you thought LeBron James was going to come out

and go to the Lakers with Shaq and Kobe. Is that where you're supposed to go? No, but I'm just... Oh, man, that's tough, though, man. That's tough. Because I'm feeling bad. I feel bad. Not to go off topic, tough because I'm feeling bad. I feel bad. Not to go off topic, but I feel bad for Bryce.

I feel bad for Zach. Now they got Zach starting again this Sunday. Now, you know, I don't know what to say. You better say, hey, get that money. Demond Washington donated. Shannon, times are different now. Guys getting paid more than some NFL. Not guys that's going in the first round.

Especially not guys that are going top three. We talk about top three. We ain't just talk about somebody just getting drafted. We're talking about a top three player. We're talking about a number one overall. First of all, guys that's not going in the first round ain't getting that kind of NIL money to begin with. Ain't no guys going in the third and fourth and fifth and sixth rounds ain't getting that kind of NIL money to begin with. Guys going in the third and fourth and

fifth and sixth rounds ain't getting no NIL deals. So we're talking about basically the first round picks. The first round pick, the last pick in the draft, the 32nd pick is going to make more money from the NFL than what Caleb Williams or Shador Sanders or whomever the

number one NIL deal got last year. The last pick in the draft, the last pick. Yeah. It's going to make more than what should door Caleb Williams or whomever the top NIL deal. Can you see who got the top NIL deal last year? And then give me what the 30th,

31st and 32nd pick in the NFL draft got coming up this last year. And guess what? Oh, Joe, I'm closer to getting to the big payday yeah yeah because that's what it's about I'm trying to get this little bag to get to the big bag barring injury barring injury if guess what if I'm gonna get injured I'm gonna get injured on an NFL field I ain't getting injured in college. College, yeah. Oh, man.

That's crazy. I think that's a discussion and debate that can go on and on and on because regards to what points you make, that can go on and on because the opinions are different.

All the people that are saying, oh, you know, he should go back. If your son had an opportunity to make $40 million, you tell him to go back to school. It's easy to tell somebody else's kid what to do now. That's what we know, Ocho. It's easy to have an opinion on what somebody else would. This is what I would do. When you know

damn well, given that same situation, you wouldn't do it. Ain't no way in hell you growing up in your situation and you got an opportunity and they say you sign your name on this dotted line, you got $40 million, you got $30 million, you telling your kid to go back to school. Y'all need to stop this because y'all get

on social media and y'all be upset. Y'all don't say anything. And you know damn well, ain't nobody that's listening to this, the 31st pick in the draft got $12.75 million. Now tell me, pick in the draft got 12.75 million. Now, tell me, show me the NIL deal. Bronny, Bronny James has the highest NIL deal at 6.1.

The 31st pick in the draft doubled Bronny's deal. Now, last I checked, whoever got a kid, dad named LeBron James. Now, which one of these kids in the NFL, Marvin Harrison? His dad is Marvin Harrison Sr. He ain't LeBron James Sr. So I want to know what football kid, Shadur Sanders, had the highest NIL deal. He

got 4.1. So the 31st pick in the draft got four times what Shadur got. Now you tell me what you're going to do now, Ocho. I want people at home to tell me what you're going to do. Well, I told you what I was going to do. I was just curious to hear other people's opinions

because I didn't think everybody would agree on what you and I are saying about, listen, we're going to the NFL. And like I said, as soon as I said, please do the, what do you call it? The poll. I do the, what do you call it? The poll. I do the poll. And just like I knew it, 12% say, shit, I go back. I don't know how. I don't know what they think about.

I don't think, do they understand who Marvin Harrison Jr. is? This ain't just know anybody. This is somebody that probably goes maybe the second, maybe the third pick in the first round. I think I don't think they have, they're not understanding the context of who we're talking about. Your kid. There's no way. There's no way. Ocho. It's your kid.

People at home, Marvin Harrison Jr. is your son. Now, you have to understand, now his situation is a little unique because his dad made millions. So it's not about money for him. But here's the thing. He wants his own name.

He wants to be his own. He's like, Dad, I appreciate the opportunity that you gave me. Went to a very good school. I had the best of trainers. I had the best of the best. Now, because if you remember what LeBron

asked, he asked Bronny, he said, what you doing? He said, I want to do this. He said, I want to do this on my own. He said, well, let's get busy. Let's go do it. Your son comes to you. I can go back and you know how

inherently dangerous. We see those hits. We see those guys. We see those guys, non-contact injury, Achilles, ACL, patella tendon. We see that.

And you got an opportunity to go get $40 million and you're going to say, nah, son, I think you should go back to school. Yeah. Okay, so. I wish y'all the best with that, but hey, everybody's situation, hey, money is not

everything for everybody. So, hey, that's what they want us to believe. Yeah. Have at it. Ocho, a woman threw her burrito bowl at a Chipotle worker, was sentenced to two months service and a fast food job. An Ohio woman has been sentenced to a month in jail

and must work at a fast food restaurant for two months after she attacked a Chipotle worker. Rosemary Haney? Haney? Hane. Okay, Rosemary Hane? Haney? Haine. Okay, Rosemary Haine was caught on video throwing food in the face of employee Emily Russell on September 5th at a

Parma, Ohio Chipotle location. Damn, it had to be in Ohio. She was sentenced to 180 days in jail at the hearing last week, but the judge gave her an option. Instead, spend 30 days in jail and work the remainder of a sentence, 60 days, at a fast food restaurant. She must work at least 20 hours a week at whichever fast food restaurant she finds a job at. At the present time I'm reading this, she has not gained employment.

So she's still in jail then? She locked up? Well, she got to do 20 days regardless. All right, so when she get out... She got to do 30 days. She got to do 30 days and she got to do the remaining 60 days. At employment.

See, I like that. The judge was being gracious. The judge was being lenient because one thing that they don't do or that people don't do is they don't treat those in the service industry, fast food service industry,

with respect. You know, they're very rude. They're very mean to people. Listen, when I worked at McDonald's, I'll never forget. When I worked at McDonald's on 62nd Street, right across the street

from Edison High School here in Miami, I remember people treating me like, like shit, like I didn't belong, you know? Can I get some ketchup? Give me some more napkins. Can I get a straw? I'm like, whoa.

Relax. Relax. And everybody, and every time, listen, every time you turn around on Twitter, you got a fight at KFC. You got somebody through the drive-thru throwing the food back at the person. That food ain't that good. I don't care what the restaurant is. Ain't no food that good

gonna make me act a fool at the restaurant. And to throw the food, come on now. It depends on how hungry you are. It depends on how hungry you are. Then what about, I saw the McDonald's, the lady with the blender. The lady at McDonald's hit the lady with the blender. Yeah, she deserved that. She deserved that.

Yeah, she was snapping. She was snapping. I think she threw the food, threw something, threw a drink on that. Yeah, she was snapping. She was snapping. I think she threw the food, threw something, threw a drink on her. Yeah, she did. That lady got that blend and was like,

hey, blend this. Hold this. Hey, but that's dope. That's dope. Now, you do your 30 days and then when you get out, they should make her work at the same Chipotle

that she had the incident at. Right alongside with the lady. Nah, the lady probably put the ms on her. Did she have to find another job at another restaurant? Hey, that's dope, though. Hey, come on.

I like that. I get it. You know, sometimes you get frustrated. I mean, I've been in a place and I like to be very specific when I order. You know, I don't want any ketchup. I don't want any mayo. I want this sauce.

And then I get home. Right. And I'm like, the burger got everything on it. I mean, I call it a I call it a refrigerator because everything that was in the refrigerator, they put it on my damn burger. Lettuce, onion, tomato, ketchup, mustard, mayo. I'm like, come on, bro. I just told y'all this. Right. But I ain't finna go back out there and throw my food in these people's face. It ain't that serious. Everybody different, though'all did. But I ain't finna go back out there and throw my food in these people's face. It ain't that serious. See, everybody different, though.

Everybody different. You know, like you say it all the time. Everybody don't play the way you play. So when it comes to their food, man, you know, people, we know black folk now. There's two things we don't play with. We don't play about. We don't play about our money. We don't play about our food.

We don't play about our kids. Nah. And they don't play on nobody's food especially when you get when you get the order wrong you know how bad it is to sit in the drive-thru especially when it's a long line

you order specifically what you want and then it comes on the menu exactly what you order and then you get your food you check it before you pull off and they got the goddamn order wrong and then when you say something

and you address the person they got attitude with you they got attitude with you you messed it up but got attitude with you. You messed it up. But I'll tell you what I will do, Ocho. I will go back up there. I say, excuse me,

you got my order wrong. This is what I asked for and this is not how it came. Yeah. See, I can't do that. And I got a problem. I'm going back up there. I have a problem

when I get orders wrong or when they do get my order wrong, which is very rare being that I go to the same place over and over, I never take it back. I just eat it the way it is. In the back of my mind, you know what? There are people that are starving and I'm sitting here complaining about them getting my order wrong. But boom, real. We go eat somewhere and it makes me feel so bad for them to get her order wrong at a restaurant we're going to eat at and she's sending that food back that really hurts me that bothers me that bothers me and every time i look

at i look at it almost in disgust like come on man what we doing what we're doing to get my order right okay so guess what they're listening put the onions in there just take the onions off you ain't got to send the whole plate for no onions man. So what I'm going to do for that steak that cost $79, I'm going to give them $59. Oh, come on, man. Oh, you got my order wrong? I got the pay wrong. We good.

Even swap ain't no swindle, Ocho. Sometimes, sometimes it's just too much, though. It just be simple stuff. You can just take it off your plate. Like, it's little stuff. You sending burgers back because it got tomatoes

or they got shrimp. Well, they overcharge me. Well, charge somebody else. You can make that money up, Ocho. You can make that money up. It ain't no thing. Come on, Ocho. They can make that money up. Y'all, you don't understand. It's hard to explain. It's hard to explain. I don't want to make their job any harder than it already is.

I don't want to make my job any harder either. Even what I didn't pay for. I ask it. Hold on. Why you say I can have, why you ask me to order if you're going to bring it high to hell? You want it to? I know. Sometimes in the kitchen, they make a mistake. Sometimes they make, you know,

sometimes when I pull it out of my money, I make a mistake. I thought I gave, Ocho, you know what? I thought that $100 was, I thought that $10 was $100. So my bad. I walked up out of there. So, you know, it's supposed to be $150. I gave you $15. That's bad. I thought that was $100, Ocho. I really did. See, you never, see, I worked in the food industry. So it's hard for you to understand where I'm coming from. I really grasp what I'm talking about. But I used to be a server. I used to be a cook. I used to be a hostess. So I come from a different

place when I talk about these things because I'm talking through experience and what I had to go through dealing with multiple personalities. Dealing with egos. Dealing with people that felt they were entitled. So it's a little different. It hit different for me. I can't work in a coal mine

and then complain about being dirty. I chose that profession. Right. I chose that job. I didn't have a choice. I didn't have a choice. I had to make a living. I had to earn a living. Okay. Oh, there's sanitation. You can pick up cans. Oh, there are other ways.

Come on. I'm in high school now. I can't be working in the garbage truck man in high school. Yeah I can't be working in the garbage truck man in high school yeah they let you work in the garbage truck so we would do me a janitor y'all didn't have school janitors I'm going to go to school and be the janitor at the same time

after school when that bell ring put your clothes on and get your ass out there and start mopping the floor you shut out man you told me that's all I had. You said you wanted to use your head. You want to use your hand and your head. Well, I'm going to put a broom in your hand and a hat on your head.

And listen, I did, man. People, you know, if you understand what I had to go through, man, in college to make a living, man, you'd be like, damn. Nah, I didn't get no job in college. And high school. No, I had, no, summer was my time to work. Once I got to school, once that was over, you know, and I worked a little bit,

had to catch chickens and stuff. But, excuse me. No, Ocho, no, I wasn't gonna work. I wasn't gonna... How the hell I'm gonna play football and work and do my schoolwork? Listen, I did all that. Listen, and I can tell you, we family now. I was at Santa Monica College.

Listen, it took me three years. This is how bad I was when it came to school. It took me three years to get out of a two year institution. Nineteen nine. Nineteen ninety seven. I worked. I worked at Kukuru's. Kukuru's in L.A. That didn't work out. Oh, you were the Juco, huh? Yeah, I'm going to Juco with me and Steve Smith. We was together. Oh, yeah. That's the 13th grade. Yeah. Hey, so I'm at Kukuru's, right?

I wrote the KB Toy in uh in crenshaw mall i wrote the kb toy stores then i worked at men's land upstairs yeah at crenshaw mall i just way back in 1997 um let me see what else oh 1998 the year I was ineligible at Santa Monica College. I was ineligible in 1988, 1998. Man, my mama pissed. My grandma wouldn't even let me come back to Miami. Like, listen, baby, I don't I don't want my grandma. I wash my favorite line. I wash my hands. I've done all I can do. Make sure you stay up there with your mom in L.A. Shoot. I had I had I had to make a living. You stay up there with your mom in LA.

Shoot, I had to make a living. Boom. I was working at the Right Track, you know, an exotic club, you know. So I was dancing, making a little living. I was bringing in about like $2,500 a night. Right Track, off of Florence. Yeah, off of Florence.

Yeah. Hold on. Women pay to see you get naked? Man, listen. Or they pay to see you put your clothes on. No, Uncle. You probably walked out there with a... Uncle, I ain't trying to be funny. I told you we family now.

I wrote that the right track on Florence. It's way back in 1998. That's the wrong track. They used to call me Twix. Because I was tall now. I had a lot of veins. But I wasn't big. Oh.

I thought they called you Twig for another reason. I thought they called you Twig. But okay, go ahead. Tell the story. No, no, no. They called me Twix for another reason. I thought they called you Twigs, but okay, go ahead. No, no, no, no. They called me Twigs. And always what I learned about the nightlife and obviously when you're dancing as a dancer, you're always dancing for the BBWs, the big women, because they tip real good.

They tip real good. So I would make a $2,500 a night. You ain't a lady if you ain't 180. Yeah. 210, count your boy in. Yeah. I like that your boy in. Yeah. Ooh-wee, I like that one. I like that one.

Listen, you know what? Making Friday, Saturday, Sunday $2,500 a night, and going to school Monday morning trying to get my grades together so I'm eligible for the following football season? Man, I was living life. Living life. Then, boom, that's when I got my grades together, played in 1999.

Dennis Erickson gave me that one shot at Oregon State. I ain't looked back since. You had a couple of them on, you know, the plus size ones, huh? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Ain't nothing wrong with them, Ocho. Ocho, you know what I'm saying? My grandpa used to say, boy, sometimes you got to slay a lot

of dragons to get a queen. Where the queen at yeah she up in the castle sometimes you got to slay a lot of dragons to get one yeah the funny the funny fact is is because of my love or their appreciation for me during that time of my struggle and always blessing me. I had always chose to date and talk to those that were what we call BBWs. Yeah. You know, I love them to death

because they, they kept me, they kept me above, they cut my head above water during rough times. A plus size woman, they like them skinny dudes. They love us.

They love us, man. What two big people, what two big people gonna do? Take down a buffet? What y'all going to do together? I mean, do you... Y'all be sumo wrestling. Get out of here.

You very rarely see two healthy people together. Very rarely. Very rarely. You know, one is small and one is of size. Or I call it big bone, like my grandma used to say. Mm-hmm. Oh, man, they was a blessing, man. They was a blessing, man. They was a blessing, man. They was a blessing.

Oh, they was a blessing. I mean, you took a couple of them down. I'm sorry, Real. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. No, she sleep. She sleep. You took a couple of them down.

I ain't mad at you, though, Ocho. It's the past, though. Man, it's about 30 years ago. You know, ain't nothing. But they was a blessing, man. I love them to death. I love them to death. I'll never forget, boy.

God damn right track, man. Good days in LA. You I love him to death. I'll never forget, boy. God damn right track, man. Good days in L.A. I know, bro. You're on the wrong track with that one, though, Ocho. But I ain't got no problem. I mean, we all, you know, we all got...

We had to make a living. We all had to make a living. I ain't got no skeleton in my clothes. I got a graveyard. I got a graveyard. Oh, yeah. Talk about it, man.

Tell us the story. No, no, no. I'm going to move this thing along. Come on. Check this out, Ocho. No, no, no, no. Some things I got to take to my grave. Some things I got to take to the grave.

I don't put a lot of stuff out there. But some things I got to go to the grave. A woman was shamed by her seat melt for watching Magic Mike on the plane. A woman was watching Magic Mike last dance on her flight from Bali to Australia.

She then received a note from a passenger telling her, ask the Lord for forgiveness. For the movie Magic Mike? I asked the Lord for slapping his taste out your mouth. That's the forgiveness I'm asking for. Clearly, some

airline thought Magic Mike was appropriate to show on the plane. Oh, wait. They showed it on the plane? On her seat. So you know how you get to pick your own movie, Ochoa. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially on a flight that long.

You pick your own movie. She gonna pass me a note, ask the Lord for forgiveness. See? I could have swore the Lord for forgiveness. See? I could have swore the Lord said don't judge. The note said, if you want to accept his offer, you may pray this prayer. Dear Lord Jesus, I realize I'm a sinner. I believe you bled and died to pay the price for my sin. I believe you rose from the dead and you live for forgiveness.

Please forgive me and come into my heart and save my soul. I pray this in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. That's a good prayer. That's a good prayer. But with that regard, you already know,

you already know why I got my Bible. I'm a black, I'm a back prayer but with regards to your prayer you already know where I got my Bible I'm a backslider where your Bible at you know my Bible on the back that's where the Bible at right there

Magic Mike isn't even a bad movie it's not everything is rated R is Magic Mike rated R normally they do a great job

because the airlines, they understand. They're kids. They're young children. And so, you know, kids, they'll look over the seat. So they got to make sure it's on the up and up. I don't even think they got anything MC-17 on that thing. Right. I can see.

Now, I thought when Ash was explaining it to me, I thought somebody had the computer and was watching porn on the computer. Now, that's a whole different ballgame. Yeah, different ballgame. But if I'm watching something on my... I hate when people I'm on the flat

and they look over there and see what I'm watching. You got your seat. You can pull yours up. Man, you looking at what I'm watching for. Hey, speaking of, speaking of, you got to be careful opening Twitter in public too.

Oh, man. Hey, listen, you scroll down and scroll through the wrong thing and you open it the wrong, and people around you, and especially you got the sound on by accident,

boy, Twitter gets you in trouble, boy. Damn, man. That done happened many a times. I remember being at, we called the DMV. What y'all call the driver's license place out there? Y'all say DMV? That's what it is. I open up the thing

because I got to stand in line. Place crowded. Quiet as a church mouth. Everybody waiting to hear their number call. I open up my goddamn phone, go to Twitter. First thing I hear, everybody turns looking at me. I'm like, holy shit.

I know what you want. I tried to circle back that bitch so goddamn fast. Yo, what you got on your phone? Not my phone, my followers my followers man somebody had tweeted some stuff that ain't got no business being online

I have to get up out of that like golly embarrassing me in public the people think I'm watching something I ain't got no business if I follow somebody and they follow that kind of stuff and all of a sudden that thing pop up on my feed I got to block you I got to block you. Yeah.

I got to block you, Ocho. I ain't going to lie. I got to. You, dog. Hey. Oh, man, that's a good one, man. God. Man, hold on, Ocho.

What happened? Real friend, the doctor. Hey, doc. What's up, doc? What's up, sis? How you doing? Just donated $500. Oh, Lord. She said, Shannon, meet What's up, sis? How you doing? Just donated $500. She said, Shannon, meet me for dinner this Saturday in LA.

You can even order the lobster. You know how to reach me. Look forward to hearing from you. There we go. Doc, come on now. Doc, I don't eat shellfish. So you ain't got to worry about me ordering lobster, shrimp, scallops, oysters, clams, none of that.

Listen, let's stay on point now. She said meet her for dinner this Saturday in L.A. Let's start there. Let's start from the foundation. It all depends on what we talk about for dinner, what we eating. Now listen. Because y'all boys done ruined it. Y'all young ones, y'all 40 don't ruin it y'all young ones if you like y'all young ones y'all 40

y'all 40 and down yeah see what happened look i get it ocho i'm all for the olds too i mean but you y'all take it too far so y'all old anything between the toes and the elbows y'all doing all that but the problems i got with y'all y'all eating off everybody plate you remember we growing up we couldn't go to everybody's house and eat? You remember when we could go to church and eat off everybody's plate? Y'all young boys eating off everybody's plate. Whoa, but you got to understand, Unc, this is 2023. I don't give a damn if it's 2043. Okay, let me tell you something.

You can't eat off everybody's plate. You can't eat everybody cooking. I understand. That's why she said, meet me somewhere and go to dinner. Y'all going to dinner. Now, when you're planting seed, that's how you build a foundation. Everybody don't wash their greens the same. You know what I'm saying? You're right. It depends on who's house you go to. That's why the first question you ask is who cooks? You can't eat off everybody's plate. That's the problem I got with you young fellas.

You young ninjas, y'all eating off everybody's plate. Who you calling problem that I got with you young fellas. You young ninjas. Y'all young. Everybody plate. Who you calling young? I'm 55. Who you calling young? Nah, you ain't no 55. Ain't no 55-year-old sucking no toes. Who? No, not no 55. No, not the era I grew up in. What era you grew up in?

So, listen, stay with me real quick, baby. If you grew up in the era you listen stay with me real quick baby if you grew up in an era from way back then do you know everything from when you grew up is not compatible

with today's technology at some point you're going to have to evolve at some point you're going to have to you got to evolve with the times you're getting left behind

Ocho I bet you still got you still got that plastic on your couch you still got that remember how your grandma used to have the goddamn plastic on all the goddamn furniture... I bet you still got that plastic on your couch. You still got that plastic. Remember how your grandma used to have the goddamn plastic on all the goddamn furniture in the house?

You still got that? Yeah. And you fall asleep on it and you wake up and you be stuck to it? Stuck to it. Ocho, check this out. Ocho, I don't have... I'm very good at adapting.

Right. I don't have a problem adapting. It don't sound like it. Y'all eat off everybody's plate. And y'all, you know what I'm talking about. That's out here watching. Y'all know exactly what I'm talking about when you eat off everybody's plate. Right.

You know what? But you off topic. I mean, we all know where the nose goes when the dole's closed. We know, right? You know where the nose goes when the dole's closed. We know, right? You know where the Doe's goes when the Doe's closed. But everybody play. Everybody. I don't know who everybody is.

I'm like Andre 3000. Everybody. Hey. Forever, ever? Ever, ever? Come on, Ocho, man. Y'all got to. Ocho, you.

Ocho. We in the school zone. Me and you. Sometimes, Ocho, when you in the school zone, man, the kids might all of a to... Ocho, we in the school zone. Me and you, sometimes, Ocho, when you in the school zone, man, the kids might all of a sudden pop out there. You in the neighborhood, you got to slow down. Can I ask you a question? What time is it right now?

What time is it you at? Almost 10 o'clock. Man, school out. You're talking about the school zone and school is out. You're supposed to be doing 65 or better. You on the 405 right now. We're on the 405 and there ain't no traffic. We're on the 405 and there ain't no traffic right now.

There's traffic all the time in 405. Ocho, you know, Ocho, you know even if you got your seatbelt on, you can get a speeding ticket. Now, you might not get a ticket for not having a seatbelt, but you can still get a speeding ticket. You're speeding right now, Ocho. I'm not speeding. I'm not speeding.

You're speeding, bro. Baby, baby, you got to talk. ticket. You speeding right now, Ocho. I'm not speeding. I'm not speeding, bro. Baby. Baby. You got to talk to Uncle, man. Doctor just say, you know what? Meet me for dinner Saturday at 6. And he's scared. I think he's scared, baby.

No. I think he's... Huh? Come on, Uncle. You got to represent, man. You got to represent, man. You got to get it. You got to stand on business, man. represent man you got you gotta get it you gotta you gotta stand on business man at least you gotta make me look good because i talked i talked i talked good for you you know i i told you he was a good dude he was a great man and yeah see have you seen she is gorgeous man have you seen her? Yeah, you saw? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know,

you know, I know slow, but walk. You know what I'm saying? I had a bowl of heroin that's the only thing slow though. Hey,

maybe she just donated another 500. That's she 2,500 in the pot. 2,500, you know, you could do with $2,500. She done donated

$2,500 to nightcap in this economy. What does that tell you? Tell me I ain't eating up everybody's plate. She don't need them. She want them. Yeah, she don't need you. She want you.

I don't want to be wanted. Everybody want to be wanted. Yeah, you shy. You shy. We going to work here. Yeah. Yeah. You shy. You shy. You shy. We going to work here. We going to break you down. Hey, Doc, we got to break him in a little bit.

We got to break him in. He old, man. He old. He like a Razer phone. He like a Razer phone. You know, the flip kind. He ain't really compatible with the day. You can still call. You do all that other stuff.

I don't do nothing. All I do is text and call on my phone yeah i ain't got no paypal i ain't got no apps i ain't got none of that you ain't got none of that i ain't got no pay i ain't got not one what they call that with them paying apps what they call them like zell like zell or whatever you know what you need you know what you need a woman in your life because you can't live like that. You're 55. You ain't got none of the most important necessities

you need in life. I got the best assistant in the world. Right. And when I call her, she's an Uber meal. I ain't got no Uber app. I ain't got none of that on my phone.

That's all right. We're going to get you right. I need you married because when I, listen, 2025 in the Bahamas, I don't want to hear no excuses. Oh, I ain't find nobody all this time. Listen, God is putting it

right before your eyes right now. And one thing the devil going... One thing the devil going to do, the devil going to play games. You can't even see. You're acting like Ray Charles. God put that in front of me? Man, he done put it in front of you

2,500 times. I'm not sure what you're looking at. Check this out, Ocho. Top Sports Debate just donated $50 and said, oh, stop dodging real free and take your old single ass on that date.

Give sister a shot. You lucky I'm married. We want a pick of the friend. Oh, man. Y'all ain't looking back. Y'all ain't gonna be donating money to clown me, man. Man, y'all pay this deal. Come on, huh? You gotta

stop playing. Listen, you gonna act like Rusty the Clown. We gonna give you that. Now, we're going to check back in with you Sunday and make sure you went on a date this Saturday. You know how to reach her. Doc, thank you, Doc.

I appreciate it. We got to keep working on him. He's shy. He's very shy, especially in public. Speaking of movies, Ocho, you tweeted earlier today. This is that time of the year. Name a better Christmas movie than Jim Carrey's How the Grinch Stole Christmas. Please tell me something better than the Grinch.

And look, one thing. The Preacher's Wife. Friday After Next. That's a good one. That's a good one. I say The Preacher's Wife. Ricky Smiley. Ricky Smiley.

You right. You right. And Cat Will You. But this is the funny thing about it. You say Friday After Next, Preacher's Wife, right? And then the How the Grinch Stole Christmas, Jim Carrey. Yeah. You notice how all of them are Christmas movies, but completely different? Yes. They're all

Christmas movies, but completely different. I want to laugh. I like Frosty the Snowman, too. Funny. Even though Frosty was sad. You remember Frosty, man? The man tried to put him on, he put him in the greenhouse and he closed the door and Frosty built it. Yeah.

Oh, man. Chad, Chad, what's your favorite Christmas movie, man? Oh, what about The Christmas Story? You're going to shoot your eye out with the BB gun. Remember that? Yeah. The Christmas Story? Yeah, that's a good one, too.

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That's a good one. Yeah. Puka Nakua was asked about LeBron congratulating him on the Rams rookie record. Puka said, if my girlfriend wasn't my screensaver, then LeBron congratulating him on the Rams rookie record. Pookie said, if my girlfriend wasn't my screensaver, then it would probably be, then LeBron would probably be it. Ocho, what's your screensaver? My screensaver is

let me turn my phone your way so you can see my screensaver. Hold on. Oh, the baby. baby yeah little french fry that's nice what's your screensaver is that the world whatever

whatever came on it that's my screensaver come on man we got it come on man don't nobody pop up when you call don't nobody pop up? Don't nobody pop up when you call? Don't nobody pop up? I ain't got none of that, Ocho.

Ocho, I call, I text. That's all my phone can do. Man, put some wallpaper on you. Put the dog on there. Put the dog in front of your screensaver or something, man. Where the ugly dog at? Man, don't do that. Don't do that, Ocho.

Don't do that, Ocho. Wait, listen. Where the dog? He in there? The dog in there? No, he in the bed asleep. Your dog got a bedtime? See?

Me and the dog in the bed. Okay, okay. I see you. I see you. That's my nugget. That's my nugget. There you go. So, you see where he's sleeping? He got the whole side to himself.

Yeah, you need a woman in your life now and put a dog on the floor. That's my goal. That's my goal. I guarantee you and I guarantee you this and I guarantee everybody in the chat, before 2025 gets here, the dog will be on the floor and it will be a woman

in his bed. That's my goal. That's my purpose in life. God put me on earth to find a woman. Ocho, there might be a woman in the bed, but that dog ain't gonna ever be on the floor.

That ain't gonna happen. She could be in the bed. You can't have the dog in the bed you can't have the dog in the bed with you and the missus you can't do that what I can't have is her in the bed

with me and the baby oh lord but it's gonna be it's gonna be tough she got a choice she got a choice she got a place she can sleep at her place

or she can sleep with me with the dog in the bed you know what? We're going to work on you. It's going to be a tough one. That dog ain't going nowhere. It's like, this is like therapy.

Dog done slept in that bed, I promise you, since 2010, a dog has been in my bed every night since 2010. She lucky, the big ones don't, if the big ones didn't snore,

they'd be in there. I had a special bed made because I wanted all the dogs to sleep in the bed. So I got a 10 by 10. The bed is 10 feet wide, 10 foot long. So basically,

it's two king-size beds put together, combined. Right. For me and the little ones. I like where you're going with it. I like where you're going with it. I understand. Ocho, take what I'm doing, Ocho.

She got to sleep next to me, Ocho. Because the baby got, because he got a side. I understand. She got to sleep next to me, Ocho. Because he got a side by himself. So she got to sleep next to me. Right. Yeah, but I'm saying, sometimes when it's, you know, you and the wife and you or the woman or whoever you choose to be with. I ain't getting out that bed.

I'm going to work with you. I'm going to work with you. You're going to find a woman. You're going to find a woman. Somebody's going to work with you. I'm going to work with you. You're going to find a woman. You're going to find a woman. Somebody is going to come into your life. It's probably going to be the daughter too. She's going to work with you. And you ain't even going to want them dogs in the room.

You ain't even going to want them dogs in the room. Ocho. When she get a hold of you. I'm telling you. That's how it work. Ocho. You stubborn. Ocho.

Do you know what I went through? You're being work. Ocho. You stubborn. You being stubborn. Ocho, do you know what I went through to get that dog? If you knew what I went through to get that dog. You told me the story. I know. I know. I know. I know.

Somebody had to travel. You had to pay her to travel. You paid $10,000. I understand all that. I understand that. But you know what? You know what's going to be here? Long when that dog is gone?

Your wife. Your woman. And guess what? You know what's going to be here? When that dog is gone? Your wife. Your woman. You know what's going to be here? When you get old and you need somebody to wipe your ass, you know who's going to do it? That woman. When you got to get pushed around at Whole Foods because you be eating that healthy

shit in your wheelchair, you need somebody to push you and carry your groceries up the goddamn stage, you know who's going to do that? The dog ain't be your groceries up the goddamn stage. No one's going to do that. The dog ain't be able to push you. The dog ain't be able to do that. Yeah, stay with me now. I'm going to tell you what you need to hear. I ain't going to tell you what you want.

Yeah, you keep playing around with the dog this and the dog that. You're going to be holding by yourself. The dog ain't going to be able to do all that help. All right. All right, now. Now you keep letting time pass you by and thinking, you know what?

I got a few more years. I would call my daughter, but she got to get up and go to work in the morning. Oh, you going to put the load on the kids, huh? They put the load on me? Oh, nah. That ain't how it work, ain't that ain't how it work

that all slim that ain't how it work slim that is how it work that's what you a woman God puts a woman in your life for that

okay I'm gonna you know what Ocho I'm gonna keep that in mind maybe yeah oh hold on okay

Faith just donated $50 and said in Shanna's defense dogs don't lie cheat they love unconditionally they're loyal and they're less expensive than women Okay. Faith just donated $50 and said, in Shanna's defense, dogs don't lie, cheat, they love unconditionally, they're loyal, and they're less expensive than women. Talk to him, Faith.

There it is. Wait, she said... She said... In Shanna's defense, dogs don't lie, their love is unconditional, they're loyal, and they're less expensive than women. Well, I'm not sure.

I don't agree with anything. I don't agree with anything that was just said. You just spent $225. You spent $225 bands on Rails Ray. I ain't got no dog called that. And the upkeep. And you bought Rail a car. Let me tell you something.

And when I get old and raggedy and can't move, guess who's going to take care of me? Baby, you're going to take care of me when I get old and can't move? Huh? Shit, she said she's taking care of me now. So, boom. That was an investment. Now, talk your talk. Talk what I'm about. When I'm old and gray, who's going

to push me in the wheelchair? That one over there. Well, I can't tell you gray because you bald-headed because you might be gray now. Grow your hair out. I ain't got no gray. I can grow a full set of hair. Speaking of hair, man, you know what I did out here today? Who? Man, I had

a washing set, blow-dried it out, and flat-ironed it, and I burnt my goddamn hand, man. I ain't worried about that. Now, see, me, you know, I got a little dry bar set up over here. You ain't know that? What's a dry bar? That's how I know you don't know what you're talking about.

I got a little dry bar set up. Azrael, she know what dry bar is. Azrael. What's another name for dry bar? Because he's saying something I don't know about. What's a dry bar? Huh? Oh, man. I don't

I don't use that I use that's me I say I got a little set up oh nah you got a little set up I got a whole

goddamn salon what you talking about man that's what I what the hell you think dry bar is I'm telling you I got the same thing set up at the crib

no you don't no you don't no you don't the crib. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. No, you don't. And you know what? You ain't live long enough to have that much Haiti. Hold on. Hold on. Who that was that you said they donated $50, right? Yeah, faith. Say what they said again.

In Shannon's defense, dogs don't lie, cheat, their love is unconditional, they're loyal, and they're less expensive than a woman. Actually, you know what? The funny thing, one of the things I don't like what she said, she said dogs are less expensive than a woman. Well, actually, so what I've done to eliminate all expenses, all expenses, as far as women necessities, I do them all myself.

Facials, manicures. Listen, stay with me now, baby. I do facials, manicures, pedicures. I do her makeup, lashes, eyebrows, and her hair. I install wigs, extensions. I can color wigs. I can braid. I do all that.

All I want to look. I'm paying for all that. See? See what I'm paying for all that. See? See what I'm talking about? So you ain't making no sense. You're agreeing with Faith, but then you willing and ready to pay for everything when I'm showing you how to save the money. Learn to do the things that she needs.

All you need is YouTube. You said you got a dry bar. How you got a dry bar, but you willing to pay for everything? Learn to do it. Learn to do it. I got it. Let me ask you a question. I dry bar, but you're willing to pay for everything? Check this out. Learn to do it. I got a lot of stuff. I got it. Let me ask you a question. I got it, but I'm about to learn how to do it.

Let me ask you a question. You got pots and pans? You still eat out? Yeah, right here. You ain't cook exactly. I cook today. And you ain't cook nothing. I cook today.

Baby, did I not cook for you today? I cook a salmon, macaroni and cheese and broccoli with the croissant roll the Pillsbury croissant roll what you talking about well I ain't eating no salmon I eat salmon but I don't eat none of that I said salmon I said the L my bad my bad I don't want Sal

salmon yeah well god damn it they put the L in that motherfucker. I'm saying L. Salmon. You know what? Nikki Grant said, just want Shannon to know how fine he is. I think he's with a gorgeous...

I think he is with that gorgeous smile. You're okay too, Chadford. Good night. I'm okay. Good night, Chadford. And Shannon only. That's what I'm talking about, Nikki. You heard what Nikki said. I'm okay. Good night, Shepard. And Shannon only. That's what I'm talking about, Nicky. You heard what Nicky said. I'm okay. Okay, Shepard. I don't know if Nicky can see.

She's all just fine. Can you see, Nicky? Can you? This. This. Like, this. What you talking about? I'm okay, too.

Man, I was. I knew we hating. I ain't hating. I'm just saying. I was 2007. I'm okay. Shoot. Man, I was- And you be hating. I ain't hating. I'm just saying, I was 2007. I was sexiest man of the year in 2007. Why they can't come to the chair and give me a compliment? Why you got to give her all the compliments? I don't like the way she came at me, talking about, oh, Chad, you okay.

I ain't okay. Shoot. I'm a 10, baby. On a scale of 100? Yeah. He say I'm a 10 on a scale of 100? Uncle Jay say, Uncle Ocho, what's your most embarrassing NFL moment? Also, Uncle Ocho, for your health, stay away from

Andre Ward. He'll hit you so hard, you'll eat healthy. Man, please. I'm going to beat Andre Ward's ass, man. He ain't no nothing about... I think... Oh, you're talking about the boxer. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You need to stay away from him. I'm shitting me.

I'm shitting me. I was born for this. Hey, didn't we just talk about competing earlier? No matter what it is, we're going to compete? Yeah. Yeah, you're going to have to show me. Either you're going to become a lesson or you're going to one or the other. Learn a lesson.

Learn a lesson. Become a lesson or learn a lesson. One I'm going to happen. One I'm going to happen. Bree said, Uncle Ocho, love the show, but who's your top five greatest route runners of all time? I believe Ocho one of them.

Number one is me. Number one is me and any player with what? I said Ocho. You know what, Ocho? I'm tired. You know what? You said Ocho. Okay. You know what, Ocho? You know what, Ocho? I'm tired. You know what?

Ain't no sense of, you know. You, I mean, you on nightcap, Ocho the greatest rock runner there. Ocho is. You know, I play a lot of games. I play a lot of games. I always horse around. But when it comes to that rock running, ain't nothing like that. Ain't nothing like that. Ain't nothing like that.

Ain't nothing necessarily like that. And even those that are playing now and those from my day and the those before me, they'll tell you that. That boy's something serious. Especially with them feet. Thanks, Arcana Berry.

Uncle Nocho, did you hear about 2J's Hushmanzada have a stalker that changed her last name to his. Yeah. Have you ever had a crazy stalker? Yeah, see right here in the house now. Goddamn, Rev.

You stole Ocho? Yeah, how you think we got to this point? You ain't calling the cops on him? Nah, boy, I wasn't calling the cops on that, boy. If you saw what I saw, no saw. So you opened the door and let her in, huh? I ain't had no choice. I ain't had no choice.

You said, big fan, just got out three and a half year relationship, have been listening to old podcasts to help me pass time. Any advice from either of you on how to move on? Wait, you just got out of a three and a half year relationship, right?

Yeah. The harder look. If you invested time, it's hard. Yeah. Because anytime you invest in something and it doesn't work out, it's hard. It's not easy to move on.

No, no, no, no, no. But each day, and it all depends on the type of relationship and how far along, and I understand three years, but how, because for me, I look at it like,

how do I put this, Ocho? It's, time is the one thing you can't get back. I don't look at it as like, I wasted this many years. I've wasted that many years. It just, it wasn't meant to be.

And it's kind of like, see, love is funny, Ocho. Yeah, it wasn't meant to be. And it's kind of like, see, love is funny, Ocho. Yeah, it is. Love is the, love is the only thing that will kill you,

but keep you alive to feel it. And so, it's kind of like, when people ask me, say, well, Shannon, and I've had people ask me like,

Shannon, how do you get on like with death? How do you get on? I say, it doesn't get, it doesn't get easier, you just deal with it better. Because you never get over it. Now, a relationship, it all depends on how involved, because the more

you involve, see, relationships, it's easy to get over when you're the one doing the breaking up. Oh, Joe, it's easy to leave. Yeah. It's easy to leave. When you want to, I'm out of the door. I ain't thinking about it no more because before you made that decision,

you probably checked out a lot sooner mentally. Yeah, mentally you already got you going. Before you actually made the exit or you summons up the courage to say, babe, this ain't working no more, you probably had already checked out. But when the other party says that they want to go in another direction and you're not willing and you're not wanting that to happen, it's tough, bro. Yeah. I'm telling you, trust me, it's tough.

Yeah. I mean, I can speak on this. Obviously, you were with someone for three and a half years. I started dating, honestly, back in 1983. And the funny thing about it is everybody left me. You know, since 1983, every relationship I've been in, every woman built up the courage to leave me at some point. So I understand what you're going through. I empathize with you. I understand it does get easier with time over time. It gets easier. Yeah. Uh, it's tough. You just have a better, you have a better,

you deal with it better. Yeah, most definitely. And then obviously, I think about it at this standpoint, who was taking care of who, who was paying the bills. So are you really losing anything outside of an expense? I look at it from that from from that point of view. It's unfortunate. If you have in trouble getting over her and have any issues, feel free to come on down here to Miami. You know, I can send you to some places that can that can cure you. And, you know, maybe two or three days you probably you probably wouldn't remember who she is. So just let me

know. You know how to reach me, man. Just hit me in my DM and I got some friends that'll show you around Miami. Yeah. You'll be all right. I got you. It takes time. I mean, and the longer the relationship, the harder it is to get over because like you said, you invested three years. You've invested five years. You've

invested 10 years. Yeah. But at the end of the day, like when I was younger ocho um and i'm still kind of like this uh if i'm with someone and we meet that person together right i break up with that person i break up with you too damn yeah wait so damn aren't you why you tough I'm just

I'm just I'm just moving on I'm just it's just so you're moving on from that individual and friends and the friends

that we that we met together yeah damn yeah and it's okay it's okay you know it's okay

damn that's tough but and it was it was hard it was hard. It was, it was, it was easier when I was younger because I had other things to focus on. I was so busy with, with my career. And now, now it's a lot easier because I mean, you know, with nightcap and ESPN and trying to create other ventures and things like that, trying to come up with other things that could possibly work.

It's, it's, uh, it's your mind. It's not, it's just like when I just had undisputed and you break up and people didn't know, people didn't know what I was going through,

but it was coming home to the dogs and every day to hear those voices bark. Okay, now I gotta... Because, O.J., it was tough. I don't tell anybody this. It was tough. And it was another... I was like, hey, give me a reason to wake up. To see those...

I'm up, they up. Talking to my sister. She's like, Shannon, I remember one night I went to bed. I said, Lord,

I'm 50. I said, I know you didn't bring me this far to bring me this far. Ain't no way you gonna leave me now. And I thought that over and over. It was that bad?

Yeah, man. Yeah, it was, Ojo. It over. It was that bad? Yeah, man. It was, Ocho. It was. It was. But I just always thought, my brother and I used to have a saying, Mary Porter Ray, THW, three the hard way.

And I always thought about that. Think about what you overcame just to get here. Forget, forget everything else. Think about everything you overcame in your 50 years of existence just to be in this very spot. And you think God is going to turn his back on you now. I got up one morning.

I called my sister. It was, it was, I mean, I used to have to be to work at four o'clock then. So I got up at three o called my sister it was I mean I used to have to be to work at 4 o'clock then so I got up at 3 o'clock I mean

woke up and I'm on my way to work I told my sister I told my sister I said Buck I'm alright she said thank you Jesus I hung the phone up once I said that,

once I said, God, I know you didn't bring me this far to bring me this far. Call my sister. Cause my sister, my sounding board. Yeah. I mean,

man, my brother, we, we closed with my sister. That's my right hand. That's my left side, but that's my right hand. She,

I'm going, I'm going, I'm going to run something by her and she going to give me an honest opinion. A lot of times I might not like what she has to say, but I know she's going, she's going to give it to me like nobody else. Right. And so once I said that, like, okay, I'm good. And it was tough. It was tough. I don't, I don't. And see, I like, I think a lot of band. I ain't never been in love, bro. It was tough. It was tough. I don't, I don't, and see, I like to think a lot of, man, I ain't never been in love,

bro. It was tough. It was tough. But like I said, when there was some things that happened that, that shouldn't have happened, but I'm like, okay, I'm okay.

I'm okay. And now I'm cool. Yeah. We cool. I wish, I wish her nothing but the best. Yeah. You know, I'm cool. We cool. I wish you nothing but the best. You know what's funny though? When I'm thinking about it and everybody in the chat

that's watching, fellas, ladies, those that are in relationships, those that have broken up or parted ways with people that they loved before, is you never, ever really see someone's

true colors or true intentions until a situation is no longer convenient convenient or beneficial yeah when a situation is no longer convenient or beneficial then their true colors come out yeah that whole love and whatever it may be it probably never really was just the opportunity itself created the illusion that they actually love you when they really didn't. Because the opportunity and the convenience of that situation

had deteriorated. Yeah. And that's a harsh truth. Yeah, it takes a special type of a person to be hurt and not try to hurt the person that hurt them.

Because our natural instinct, mean hell dude cheap shot me i'm gonna get his ass back at some point time in the game i'm gonna get you back right but at at some point as you as we start to to mature we get older it's not to get back it's not to get back. It's not to get even. It's to move on. And if I'm trying to get you back, I don't get to move on because I'm here. You're back there, and I'm trying to get you back, and I need to be progressing. Yeah.

And once you, like I said, Ocho, I think that comes with age. That comes with maturity. Because oh, and I think, and it age. That comes with maturity. Because, oh. And I think, for me, is that just move on.

You don't want me. For whatever reason. The new guy is more handsome. He has deeper pockets. He's more loving. He's more understanding. He commends you. He pats you on the back he tells you how

great you are and that that was the biggest thing is that not telling someone i mean the love i think the thing is that the constant praise i mean the 10 it's just hard for me to tell somebody 15 times a day, you look good and I love you and all that. That's one of the most irritating things, having to reassure someone constantly of the same thing over and over and over and over because are you lacking maybe self-confidence or whatever. That's very draining. Yeah. Yeah. Very draining. But, and then I, you know, different people, Ocho, this is what I tell people. I'm the most outgoing introvert that you'll meet.

And I think people see me on television and they think, but I'm totally opposite. I'm home and quiet because I like to be by myself. You know, yeah, I can carry on a conversation. I can go anywhere and I can present myself. But I just, I think what it was is that I grew up when I had my brother.

Then he went to school. It was just me. So I would come home. My sister's eight years older. My sister's dating. You know, so it's just me. And I go to college. I go to one party.

And it's just me. I didn't really hang out. I'm not in guys' rooms and I'm just, I'm just, I'm, I'm outgoing, but I'm an introvert. And I just, so it's hard. Me and relationships are hard. It's hard. Maybe, maybe that's why the fact that you're opening up a little It's hard. Maybe that's why. The fact that you're opening up a little bit about it,

maybe that's why you're so reluctant right now because you've been through so much. You've been hurt before. You love. And now you just, you kind of. Who hasn't been hurt? You kind of. But now I'm getting a better understanding and the people that are listening and watching

getting a better understanding why you are so difficult in that specific area in your life. I feel like I'm your therapist. Come here, come here, come here. Ocho, but you have to understand, Ocho, I'm in a different place now. So I have to be extremely cautious. Hey, baby.

Hey, Pookie. Say hi. No. You see. Don't forget you then. She just woke up. Just woke up? Man, it's 1.30.

Yeah, she just woke up, taking a nap. Uncle TJ asked another question. He said, Uncle, I'm only 22 years of age, but I have a feeling I'll probably be alone forever with no kids, and I'm fine with that. Heard a lot of folks say that's bad. False. Society says that we should get married and we should have kids,

but you have to do what's in the best interest of you because society ain't going to love them kids. Society ain't going to pay for them kids. Society ain't going to pay for you to be in that. So man, society, man, man, look here. We got to please ourselves and start worrying about what people think of us.

And we get a lot of that on social media. Social media make everybody think everybody flying private jet. Everybody got Pateks and Rollies and everybody got, you know, Cullinans and all this. Bro, they don't. It ain't real life. No.

It ain't real life. I mean, the times are hard out here, Ocho. When's the last time you found some money on the ground? That's a hard time being right there. You usually, Ocho, I mean, when I was a kid, I'd walk outside and find a quarter dime or something. A dime or something. Nah. You can't even find a penny on the ground. When's the last time anybody. Nah. You can't even find a penny on the ground.

When's the last time you found a penny on the ground? If you got to do it, it works for you, man. Obviously, there's always a social construct on the way things should go. Rules that we're supposed to abide by. What we like to call human morality. You know, those guidelines

we got to follow. But it don't work for everybody. It don't work for everybody. You got to do what works for you, do what's best for you. And that's, that's exactly what I've done. Obviously I didn't do anything the traditional way, the traditional way it should be done. I didn't do anything that way, but the way I did do it, it works for me and I make it look damn good the way I did it. You make it look good? Yeah, man. I make it look good. I make it look good. Young K Ismael Flores just had ACL surgery. What advice do you have while dealing with an injury as a former athlete? Chad, please don't say McDonald's.

Just keep a positive mind. Wait, say the question again. He just had ACL surgery. He said, what advice do you have while dealing with an injury as a former athlete? As former athletes. We're former. I still am. I mean, Ocho ain't no athlete, but I am. Shad, please don't say McDonald's.

I'm not even going to say that. I've never had any injuries, so I really have no expertise on actually answering that. But I mean, mean obviously tearing your acl you want to get back as fast as possible take therapy and rehab very seriously take it just as serious as whatever whatever you were doing that got you hurt as much as you love that sport or whatever you might have been doing take it just as serious to get back rehab therapy taking care of yourself. Uh,

I mean, that's, that's, that's the best I could tell you. It's hard for me to actually answer being that I'd never been in that position to have to rehab or, or have therapy to get back to something I love, but you know,

I'm sure you love running around. Bro. You know me, Oh, Joe, I don't have both of my heels repaired. I had one. And then six months later,

I had the other I was like bro you iRobot yeah yeah like Shakira said heels don't lie now oh yeah what well you a robot

I wanna be oh I can't say that Peter Gabriel's on Sledgehammer. Mm-hmm. Black Hammer come to town. I know what you're talking about now. You know what I'm saying,

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