Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Lakers lose to Kings, Wemby's DPOY case, & Tatum's clutch struggles

Episode Date: March 7, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Gilbert Arenas react to the Lakers loss to the Kings, the Warriors big win over the Bucks, Jayson Tatum’s clutch struggles, how to cheat at Monopoly and much much more! 0:00 Introudction04:20 Lakers fall to Kings 130-120 - LeBron leaves game in 4th qtr25:00 LeBron privately questions of Lakers fan will ever embrace him33:20 Takeaways from Warriors defeating Bucks 125-9041:10 Magic defeat Wizards - Are they flying under the radar? “ They’re the most consistent at showing up everyday” - Gil44:00 Haslem says Bosh was more important to Heat success than LeBron49:00 Unc doesn’t think Chris Paul would’ve had the same impact LeBron had if he was on the Heat54:10 Draymond doesn’t think Wemby should be defensive player of the year since the Spurs have the 24th ranked defense58:00 Should Tatum’s lack of success in clutch situations affect chance to win MVP?01:08:30 Jason Kidd not worried about Mavs recent struggles - Gil talks about Luka and Kyrie being a liability defensively01:19:00 Zion Williamson says he’ll do dunk contest if he makes all-star team01:52:30 Gil asks Unc why the 40 yard dash at combine is a big deal when they don’t run it in games01:58:30 Unc talks eating squirrels02:00:00 Much more Nightcap! #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Let him get one of those gold plaques that he says he has a million subscribers. All right, Gil, let's get right into it. Kings beat the Lakers, 130-120. LeBron left the game with 356 to play, went straight to the locker room. Darvin Ham said they're evaluating him at the moment, so no update. The Lakers led by 19 in the first quarter

before a massive turnaround in the second quarter, had them down 15 at the half. And the game never got within single digits. I think they cut it at nine, maybe once in the second half. But I think that was as close as they got. And this was a consequential loss for the Lakers because instead of pulling a half game behind Sacramento for the seventh seed and tying Dallas for the eighth, they fall four games back at the King with the loss to have back in the overall and lose the season tiebreaker to the Kings.

For me, Gil, before you get into it, it really wasn't the second quarter. It was the end of the first quarter in which they were up by 19. They were up by what, 19? And they allowed the Kings to go on that 10-0 run to close it out. So they got outscored

in the second quarter 44-20, but when you add that 10 points that they gave up in the last minute, last minute 15 seconds of the first quarter, they really out got scored 54-20. And so I thought that was a difference in the ball, a lot of the difference in the ballgame, especially in the first half. But what'd you look at?

What'd you see in the first half? What'd you see overall in this ballgame? Yeah, during that time on that 10-0 run, I think Alston Reeves took four of those shots and missed all four. They were good shots, but four of those shots, he missed. They kept passing him the ball, and he kept taking it. So there would have been a time where usually you know, usually you miss two in a row,

you know, and they're making a run. I think they should have called a timeout a little bit earlier in that run. I don't know why, why Darvin Hamlin, you see that the other night, he just like, even with the nuggets,

let's go back to the nuggets, not to cut you off Gil. You saw the nuggets make their run and he's standing on the sideline like Phil Jackson, bro. Quell that run, call a timeout. You ain't Phil Jackson. You know, sometimes, you know,

a coach will allow you to play through those runs, the built character. But, you know, at this point in time, you can see, you know, Reeves is struggling a little bit. So the fact that he did take four or five of those shots, that was part of that 10-0 run. Other than that, you know, 14 is supposed to be great at defense. You know, you gave up too many points in the paint.

You gave up too many points in the paint, you know, to be such a great, you know, you do have LeBron back there. You do have AD back there. have lebron back there you do have uh 80 back there so rui's back there so the fact that you gave up 70 something points you know to a team that shoots a lot of threes is is is not a winnable for formula yeah you look at the air and fox he's he's the laker killer and he's averaging 30 coming into the game in this, what, last five or six games against the Lakers. He drops 44 on 19 of 32 shooting. And, you know, the thing was, again, Sabonis outplayed AD. He outplayed it.

He had a triple-double at the end of the third quarter. You look at Malik Monk comes off the bench. I think he gave him 26, 28. He gave him 26, 10 of 19 shooting, 3 of 5 from the three-point line. Davion Mitchell came off the bench. He went 4 of 4 from the field, 4 of 4 from the three-point line. But let's just say for the sake of argument, if you can get

LeBron, LeBron was great. I don't think he took enough shots. He was 10 of 16, 10 of 10 from the free-throw line. He was 31, 13 and 5, 31 points, 13 assists, 5 rebounds, 1 steal, and 5. 31 points, 13 assists, 5 rebounds, 1 steal. Only had 3 turnovers.

So you can live with that. But AD had 14 and 11, but Sabonis gave you 16, 20, and 12. So you can't... And see, that's what... That happened the last couple of games. Jokic outplayed him. You can live with Jokic outplaying him.

Jokic is the first or second best player in all of basketball, but you can't let Sabonis outplay you. You've got to play him to a standstill because De'Aaron Fox is going to, hey, De'Aaron Fox basically outscored D. Russ, and he outscored A.D., D.Lo, and Austin Reeves by himself. He had 42 between the three. He had 44 alone. Yeah, with Sabonis, to be honest, it's one of those type of stats where he outplays you,

but there's nothing you can do about, like, he's going to get all the rebounds. So it's not like he got a lot of offensive rebounds. The assist him passing to his teammates, that's his job. You can't really quantum that. But he's pushing it. You see him get the rebound? He's pushing it.

Go ahead. That's not in 80s control where that's his style of play. You know, the Euro bigs just has more tangibles. You know, so the assists, you know, kind of push them above the American big right now because they can get their teammates involved. When they're not having a great offensive game, they can make those passes.

Like, Sabonis, I think he's leading in triple doubles this year over Yoke and Lucas. So, you know, he's really going under the radar with how dominant he's been playing. But see, that's why you cook his ass on the offensive end. You go get 30. You go get 30. See, this is where he needed one of those 35-15 games. So now all of a sudden, he's exerting a lot of energy. He didn't really have to

exert a lot of energy to get those numbers. I mean, yeah, he played 38 minutes, but he had a triple-double at the end of the third. And so now he's just adding to that total. And that's where AD needs. AD's going to have to, like, you know, he's 5-13. He missed some shots early.

I didn't think he was as aggressive as he needed to be. But when you get a guy like that that can score on the offensive end, and he's not got a guy that's going to give you 30, but he can give you 20 and 10 and 20, 20, and 15. You've got to punish him. A.D. needs to have, that was the game. A game. AD needed that 35-15-6 game. You know what's so funny is he reminds me, I call them

50-50 players, where if they hit their first two shots, they're going to have a good game. If they miss their first two shots, they're going to have a bad game. They're going to be unaggressive. You're hoping that they go one-on-one and still be interested in the game. Right.

What makes a real star is I can have an 0-for-5 first half and then give you a 45 or 50 in the second. Right? KD last night. He had the whole game, and once he got it going, late in the fourth and in overtime, he took the game over. That. Yeah, you can't just call it a night. Oh, I it going, late in the fourth and in overtime, he took the game over. That. Yeah, you can't just call it a night.

Oh, I missed three, four in a row. It's done. I'm done. Right? You know, you have to still be engaged and do some of the other things that keeps the team involved until you get your momentum and your rhythm and your confidence. And sometimes what happens with AD is when he starts missing early, he just becomes

uninterested offensively. Yeah, they didn't play any defense. Darren Fox got whatever he wanted. He got to wherever he wanted. At some point in time, Gil, what about trapping him and get the ball out of his hand? Is that ever an option in an NBA game

to trap somebody and make them give the ball up? Not somebody that fast, right? You just compromising your defense when you're talking about— I'll compromise it, but I see he got it going. Everybody can't have it going, Gil. You know what it is they haven't understood with fast guys like him? What fast guys like him wants to do.

Derrick Rose. I did it. John Wall did it. We want to set the pick at them half court. Yeah. Right. Get a running start enough to bring us up there so we can just zoom by you. Right. Because we have more running room with those type of guys. You sit at the three point line to take away their burst of speed. They don't realize that because they want to pick it up. We're going to set the pick as high as possible. And then we get a run at the big man, which that's what Fox does very well.

I thought the key to the run with the Lakers was when Hayes got the end one. Yeah. And they called it an offensive foul on a natural way of jumping. Like, I'm going to jump. Like, you know, with your right hand and your right leg is going to come off. Yeah. So what happens is that put them within nine, right? Yeah.

That put them within nine. He gets the free throw eight and then they came down and made a three. So the fact that they took that away, they took the way that three point possession, you know,

it could have been a six, 12, 15 point game and they get a couple more. Now, what could have been an eight point game? Now it's a 19 point game. Yeah.

You know, and I think that was one of those key moments with the rest. And, you know, as one of the reps who actually played, I forgot his name, but he did play basketball.

Something Wood. Oh, yeah, Al Wood. Is it Al Wood? Or Leon? Who was the ref today? Hold on. We got the refs up here. Where would I find the refs at?

Was it Derek Collins? Derek Collins played, right? I don't know. I know there was a – I don't know if he had – yeah, there was a Wood that – not Woods, but there was a guy that played. I think Derek played – well, you understand that when you jump, that's how you jump, so he didn't lead with his knee. Right.

He didn't lead with his knee for offensive foul. That's just a natural jumping ability. You don't jump with your legs straight down. So that was a call that they messed up. And I thought that was the point of the game where they needed that. Because that and one, then you come down, shoot a three. It's a different vibe. Right.

Especially at home. Once they took that away, I think it was it took away some of the momentum. Derrick Collins, Kevin Cutler, I know Kev, Scott Twardowski, and Derrick Collins.

It was just that. I was like, ah, that's what they needed right there. And you know what, Gil? The thing is with the Lakers. I'm thinking Orlando Woodridge. That's what I was thinking. The big old. Big old.

I think the thing is for me, Gil, is that with the Lakers, what are there, 20 games left? Yep. So you really, because you put yourself in this corner you have no margin for error you've got to win these games when you get the when you get the nuggets down by 11 you've got to have you got to find a way to win that ball game you get the kings down by 19 you've got to find a way to close that ball game i know it's early in the game but you still have ad and lebron they just stopped playing defense.

They were the stretch. They were getting layup after layup after layup after layup. And the Lakers were like, oh, well. Oh, wide open shoot around threes. We just got to put this in perspective. We just got to put this in perspective. Right now, 7, 8, 9, and 10 is locked for 7, 8, 9, and 10. Yeah.

That is a lock, right? Lakers is going to be in the play-in game. Golden State, Dallas, and Sacramento, those are going to be the play-in game teams, right? Yeah. Utah at 28 wins. They're five and a half games out of, you know, the 10th spot. They're not moving. So this is the four.

Now, let's just be honest. These four are playing chess. No one wants to move to six because no one wants to play Denver. No, no, no. Right. No one wants to play Denver. So you only see Phoenix actually trying to get the fifth. Right. Phoenix would rather play Clippers than Denver in the first round. Yeah. I want OKC. So, you know, so but if I'm Lakers, I want toC. Yeah, so, you know, so, but if I'm Lakers, I want to be eighth spot.

Because eighth spot gives me Minnesota, and then it gives me four or fifth. So I don't have to worry about Denver to the Western Conference Finals again. Well, what about if I get the seventh seed? I want, well, I'm want the OKC Thunder finisher too, because I want them. Yeah, then I get Denver in the second round.

Oh, no, I don't want them. I don't want Denver either. I don't want them. So I'd rather just sit back where I'm at right now, knowing that I don't really have to cut the engine on, because 11, you're too far behind for 11 right now knowing that I don't really have to cut the engine on because 11,

you're too far behind 11 right now. So I want to sit in that eighth spot. Take on tough Minnesota and then I have the Clippers, New Orleans or Suns for my second round.

What about the eighth spot? That means you got to win two games. Well, 7-8, whoever wins becomes the seventh seed, right? Yeah. To be honest, I don't even know how that works. Yeah. Because somebody got to win two games.

Okay, because if you're the seventh seed and you lose, whoever loses go down. Yes. And then whoever wins 9-10, you get one game. Whoever loses out of 9-10 they're out 7-8 they get to play

the winner of 9-10 yes okay that game hurt I just knew I mean and the Lakers shot 52% Gil they shot 52% they shot 52% from the field 47% from the three 84% from the free throw line, and they lose.

They give up 130. That tells me you didn't play no defense. You didn't play no defense. That's what I'm saying. It's one of those things where it's like, like, are you just trying to sit in 10th spot? To be honest, you know, if I'm coaching, I'm telling you right now, this is what I'm doing. So I got to be careful on the games I win

versus the game I lose because I want eighth spot. So I want the 10th. Minnesota. Sacramento got up 16 more shots than the Lakers yeah with only one more turnover so that tells me offensive

rebounds they had nine the Lakers had three and that's it Lakers got to find a way to do a better job of getting on the glass they got out rebounded the other night by Denver. At some point in time, you can't keep getting out-rebounded. You're giving teams too many cracks at you.

That's why I can put in a football term deal. You can't let teams keep getting, picking up third downs because you're giving them too many cracks at you to get the ball into the end zone on that one drive. You want to get them off the field. You get them. All you can do is get them in third down. We didn't give up a touchdown on first down or second down. We got them in third.

Let's get off the field. That's all you can hope for as a defense. Get somebody to third down and get them off the field. You didn't give up the touchdown on first. You didn't give it up on second. You got them to third. We've got to get off the field. You keep't give up the touchdown on first. You didn't give it up on second. You got them to third. We've got to get off the field. You keep letting teams convert on you on the same drive on third down,

they'll eventually catch up with you. You keep letting teams get that many cracks at you on the offensive end, oh, well, I'm going to go down. They're not going to miss all those threes. They're not going to miss all those putbacks. Mm-hmm. I don't understand where – I don't understand where I don't think like I want to be inside the locker room when he's giving out his speeches because it is simple sometimes like, hey, AD, I need this to be a 20 rebound game. You need to start setting assignments. There's just games you have to

lay assignments down depending on who you're playing against. AAD and Bron, I need you guys to combine for about 35 to 40 rebounds between the two of you. We have a very defensive minded team. They hit the offensive glass. You guys need to 40 rebounds between the two of you. We have a very defensive-minded

team. They hit the offensive glass. You guys need to secure it. I told my son, he just had 53. He had 53 the game before. I said, hey, you're not going to have 53 against this next team. I'm expecting you to

have about 20 and 20. I need you for your team to win. You need, as a guard, you need about 18 to 25 rebounds. That is the, you get 18 to 25 rebounds, you guys win this game, you're going to the state championship. If you don't, if you sit around trying to be a guard, y'all in trouble. He had 18. He had 20, 24, and 18.

Wow. You have to lay... Some of these guys, you have to give them an assignment so they can mentally focus on it. Right. If you don't do that, then they just play the game normally. Right. No. See, here's the thing. When I say Sabonis outplayed AD, he scored

more points, and he had more rebounds. We understand the assist because a lot of the offenses run through him. So we'll concede that. Jokic having more assist than AD, I'm not complaining about that. But I can't let him beat me on the scoring end and on the rebounding end. I've got – because if I'm losing – if I lose two or three against one of those guys, I'm probably going to lose that game. If I lose all one of those guys, I'm probably going to lose that game. If I lose all three of them, I'm damn sure going to lose that game.

And this is why the ideal of what people used to say about Russell Westbrook. He's stat chasing. One of those stats were two unselfish ones or two of them stats was unselfish assists that means he's passing the ball and rebounding which takes effort

right I guarantee you they wish they had a dude tonight that cared about rebounding so much you know what I mean so

yes Sabonis almost out rebounded Sabonis had 20 rebounds the Lakers starting five had 24 yeah see that yeah Sabonis almost out-rebounded. Sabonis had 20 rebounds. The Lakers starting five had 24. Yeah, see, yeah, yeah. 13, 18. Yeah, see, the fact that he's rebounding so much.

23. See, the fact that he's rebounding so much leaves a little room for offensive rebounding, which there's no second chance. Like, he's cutting off second chance points, footback points, because he's doing 95% of the defensive rebounding for

that starting five. Well, if you think about it, he had more offensive rebounds than the Lakers had as a team. That cannot happen, Gil. I mean, technically, he's getting all the defensive rebounds. That means someone ain't getting offensive rebounds.

Well, he found a way to get four, and the Lakers found a way to get three. So how did that happen? See, he's doing his damn job. That's what I'm saying. Sometimes you just got to sign shit. Yeah. I thought Rui played good. You look at Rui.

Rui's been playing well. 13 to 17, 3-5, 29 points. LeBron, 10-16, 1-4 from three, 10-10 from the free throw line, 31 points. D-Lo struggled tonight. He was 3-10. He had to go a little bit early. 2-6 from the three, 2-2 from the free throw line. All three, 6-15, 4-7 from the three-point line.

But where they killed us is on the bench. Their bench came in and gave them 50, and the Lakers bench probably gave them, did they give them 20? Let's see, six, seven, 15, 18. 50 to 18 in bench points.

Unless your starters go haywire, you're probably going to lose. If a team's bench outscores you by that margin, unless LeBron goes for 50, AD goes for 30, you're going to lose that game. No, no, that's facts. That's facts. It was just one of those games where they just didn't, they didn't play all the way through. They had a great first quarter, and then from there,

they just, you know, laid an egg. Yep. All right, Gil, there's an article that came out this morning talking about LeBron scoring his 40,000th career point, a feat no one else has ever accomplished. It said LeBron has privately questioned whether the Laker Nation would fully ever embrace him after seeing him battle their beloved Kobe Bryant for so long.

Acknowledge the way the fans and the franchise showed up for him. Much respect and much loyalty to Laker fans, to Laker fan base for showing me that love, LeBron said. Being the first player to do something that's pretty cool in this league. Are you surprised? I'm surprised that LeBron's surprised that he thought he was going to be able to win over Laker Nation. LeBron could have won a championship. Every year he would have been here, and he thought he was going to be able to win over Laker Nation. LeBron could have won a championship.

Every year he would have been here, and he still wasn't going to surpass Kobe, and he still wasn't going to pass Magic. It's not going to happen. Just like for the most—look, he was a better player than D. Wade. Miami wasn't going to embrace him like they did D. Wade because D. Wade originally there. D. Wade grew there. He was planted in that soil. He grew there. D. Wade grew there. He was planted in that soil. He grew there.

Same thing with Kobe. They dropped him off as a 17-year-old kid, and he became a man. He became a father. He became a husband. It was never good. KD. I don't know. KD couldn't have thought that he was going to ever be, ingratiate himself in warrior culture like Steph.

He's original. Yeah, I mean, you know it deep down inside, but you have the idea when you come to town, fans come out, right? Yeah. So when he came to LA,

remember, he's only coming there once a year. Right. It's once a year. When he came for the Clippers, he's only coming there once a year. Right. It's once a year. When he came for the Clippers, he is the fan favorite when he came to town for the Clips show. Right? So sometimes, you know, as players, we think our presence when we come to town is, that's us. No. So I think he got a rude awakening or just reality hit his first week here.

Yeah, and he defaced the murals. But you would think that your greatness, and I think, you know, everyone kind of like didn't understand what I said, where he doesn't deserve a statue. Statue. Because he hasn't, LeBron James, the name, fuck yeah, has a statue. LeBron James' Laker resume doesn't have a statue here. His resume as a Laker is 89, probably 9,000 points as of today. 9,000 if he got that one championship. That is not a statue.

Right. Jersey in the Raptors? Yeah, okay, 9,000 points. You know, six-time All-Star, five-time All-NP, which would be six. You know, yeah, but a statue outside? Yeah, but a statue outside? Nah, the minimum he's going to need is the beat Shaq at 13,000 points. Right.

In this uniform. Right. In this uniform. His statue is going to be outside of Cleveland. That's where his statue is. He should get one in Miami, too. Hmm? Maybe. Well, tell me the guy that got

two MVPs and two finals MVPs with four final appearances. No, no, no, no, no. We're not talking about his resume. We're talking about his relationship. Oh, yeah. Okay, that's a difference. Okay, that's a difference. Pat Riley's going to have to leave

before then. Yeah, yeah. So we're not talking about... It's one of those things where he plays three, four more years, and he gets to about 13 points, right? He can make your argument, but that's what I'm saying. Shaq's resume is three rings. Three Finals MVPs. Three Finals MVP with 13,000 points as a Laker.

And that's the bottom end of, you know, of, of the, of the totem pole there. So, um, he was a rental.

He was no different than, right. You know, uh, Will Chamberlain when he came, you know, LeBron was a rental for the Lakers' greatness. That's just something that he's just going to have to

accept, right? Even though most of his milestones came in this uniform. 30,000, passing Colby, passing Kareem, 40,000. Assists, rebounds. Yeah, the milestones were hitem, 40,000 assists, rebounds.

Yeah, the milestones were hit here, but the legacy wasn't built here. Correct. And that's just something he's just going to have to really just understand. And it's just part of the game. That's all. It ain't nothing personal. Right? I mean, if this was the Clipper Nation, right?

Yeah. Clippers ain't hit it, but hell, they take me and you right now, Gil. I mean, we win 50 games. We get our jerseys on. Best ride to get to the NBA Finals. Oh, they going to build a statue of your boy. Shit, that's what they got. They'll have a statue of the whole goddamn James family out there.

Come on now. But I think, look, I used when I was describing KD going to Golden State, I said Golden State was new addition. Bobby Brown left. They brought Johnny Gill in. Johnny Gill could not sing Bobby Brown. Yeah. But he was never going to be accepted

by the fans because Bobby Brown grew up with those guys in Roxburgh. Yeah. That's just the way it is. Kobe Bryant grew here. Magic Johnson grew here. Now, we know what Kareem is,

but that's why people know. That's why no one ever puts Kareem as the greatest Laker, because he didn't grow here. He got three of those MVPs in Milwaukee. He got one of those finals in that finals MVP in Milwaukee. So he, that's when they got, they know most people, 90% of the people got Kobe first. And then the other 9%, 9.5% got

Magic Nick and then they'll sprinkle in maybe Kareem. Yep. That's just the way it is. That's, you know. It's where they see you grow. See, you know, Magic and Magic

and Kobe, they watch them from kids. Yes. with magic guide here you're talking about wide-eyed kids still young teen or shit he's 20 right still not old enough to get into the club right that's who they seen grow to the legacy that he became so you got to watch him build like shak came shak already Shaq came. Shaq already had his name. Wilt already had his name. Kareem already had his name. LeBron already had his name.

The golden children of Los Angeles is Kobe and Magic. In another word, I was just thinking about it. You probably don't remember this, but no matter who came, like David Ruffin is known as the best singer of the Temptations.

They had others come in, but they weren't David Ruffin. Yeah. So that's just the way it is. Who were the originals? Who were the OGs? And I don't care. They could have had somebody come in and that could play the guitar better than uh paul mccartney or could sing better than john lennon but they didn't start with them and they were never going to be embraced like them that's just the way it

is that's just that's just the way it goes that's it but you know that's everything that's just everything in life right sometimes we get stuck we get stuck with what we like, and we don't like to add or change. We're going to always compare it to what the original was. Right. And that's just the way human nature is. We're always, and that's the same thing with the 80s, right? That first vision of basketball, that's what we like.

You change it from that, we don't like it. Up or down. You know what I mean? That's just the first thing we see, that's usually what we go off of, and that is the measuring stick moving forward. Right. The Warriors beat the Bucs

125-90. Steph puts on the show tonight as he beat the Red Hot Bucs. The Bucs had won. They hadn't lost since the All-Star game after that horrible loss going into the All-Star game from Memphis Grizzlies. Steph had 29 points on six made threes, eight rebounds, five

assists. The Warriors have won six of their last eight. The Warriors' last two halves Sunday against the Celtics, they had 38 points. Tonight, they had 78 points. Mm-hmm. What was the difference, Gil? Besides shots not, just shots falling.

That can't be the book. For the Bucs or the Golden State Warriors. We're going to go to state. Sunday they had 38 at the half. Tonight they had 78 at the half. You know, I think just starting off with Boston, right?

You know, a real defensive team, not a fake set defensive team, a real defensive team, you know, played them different, played them to their strengths, which became go-to-state weaknesses. Jalen Brown hitting shots, kind of threw them off a little bit, them missing shots. So they didn't have the swagger that they had tonight. You know, tonight, you you know it's just like any

championship team just like any great greatness you have to have a bounce back game you know there's going to be some games where you just play horrible but what is your snapback look like right and and and go to stay snapback was tonight 80 we had 30 something percent we got 80 tonight right it's all about the snapback and And that's why they are champs. That's why they're four times champs. You know, the key parts of that team. Yeah, you look at Draymond. He had a 12, 6, and 6 game.

Kaminga was 20, had 20 points. Wiggins, who came back to the lineup, he only had three. Steph Curry was sensational again. And then you got T. Jackson. He gave you 15. So they got Chris Paul, gave him 10. No, Clay Thompson gave him 10. But they got an all-around game.

And you're right. Giannis was 8 of 15, had 23 points. Dame was 7 of 16, but he was 5 of 10 from the three-point line. Bobby Portis gave him 20 points off the bench. But like you said, one team shot 38% from the floor and 25% from the three. And the other team shot 56% from the floor and almost 49% from the three. One team made 19 threes. The other made 11.

Yeah. Well, there's a plus 24 right there. Yeah. threes the other main 11 yeah well there's a plus 24 right there yeah listen um this is why i don't like stats and i just like you know reality because you can make stats look look the way you want them to right uh like bucks oh my god the bulls, right? Trash, right? They beat Charlotte twice. Trash, right? And you beat 76 is wallet without Joel and bead trash.

So four to six wins came from trash teams. That's what you're supposed to do. Now they want to yell out. Oh my God. The defense is so great. They went from 19 to 5 hold on that's not how you look at this because yeah they were 19 before doc got there now they're fifth this is not the defense this is the offense right the offense was. Now the office is 20.

Mm hmm. What he did was slowed the game down. Less possessions for the opposite team. Oh, OK. That's all it was. It's nothing to do with sure. Well, defensive principle locking in on that on the defensive end. Yes. He's slowing the game down offensively, so it looks like the teams are not scoring as much. Right. But that's all it is.

It has nothing to do. That's why I said this. Your team was second before you got there, 19. Now your defense is five, but your offense is 20th since you've been coaching. Right. Right? I mean, it's overall, you're 20th in offense,

which is horrible. Right. Man, Golden State crushed them on the glass. I rebounded them 50-36, and I assisted them 37-19. And you would think, with Giannis,

with Bobby Portis, with Brooke Lopez, how the hell does somebody – but I should know. Brooke Lopez averaged like 7.64 career in the dude 7.12. So I shouldn't be surprised by that because he's never been known as a rebounding – a rebounder is even for a big – he's a below average rebounder for someone his size. Brooke Lopez ought to be ashamed of himself.

He had four rebounds. No, that's nice. I get two with two artificial heels right now, Gil. 55. All I'm going to do is box out. Like, be honest. You're boxing out, but no. We need rebounding.

Boxing out is cool. It's like he's been taught, just box your man out, and we're going team rebound. This ain't no team rebounding type of thing. Go get the goddamn ball. And that's the problem, man. You got all that hype back there, and you're getting out-rebounded by an undersized team is a problem.

Yes. I mean, the tallest guy that started was Kaminga. How tall is Kaminga? 6'9", 6'8"? Maybe it's Wiggins. Yeah. And you got a bunch of group 6'8 across the board. And you got Giannis

at 6'11". You got Lopez at 7'2". And you mean to tell me you got out-rebounded by those guys? And then you got Bobby Portis at 6'10". Yeah. Kaminga's 6'7". Kaminga's 6'7". Wiggins got to be at least 6'7". So that's even worse because you got two guys, the tallest guys,

they starting a college team. College teams start 6'7". It goes 6'7", 6'7", maybe 6'9", 6'5", 6'3". I mean, it's a high school team. It is high school team. It's a high school team. It's bigger than that. Yeah. Yeah.

Man, Brooke Lopez, he ought to be ashamed of himself only getting that many rebounds. Gil, what do you want to talk about? I guess, but look, you know, you have to give Golden State credit, too, because they're a small team. They do focus on getting the ball right this is we're gonna all go after the ball so we can get into our break you know but you know what it is though gail also is that when you shoot the when when teams shoot a

lot of threes ain't no telling where the ball gonna go so now it's a hustle situation it's not like you know guys shooting threes you're like okay it's gonna it's gonna for the most part man when you shoot a three it might take a long time it might go straight up in there it might go way over here it might go way over there it might come way out here and then when you got no small guy because it ain't like brooke lopez you know he flee the foot you don't see it but every team like this is just one of those every team every team you getting 4-5 oh yeah

I mean like I said he probably averages 7 rebounds for a career which is horrible for a guy his size I'm not saying it's horrible I mean because you get a guard to average that or you know a point guard Russ probably averages that LeBron averages that for a career.

Yes. But for a center? Yeah. It's horrible. Yeah, like it's terrible. The Magic beat the Wizards. Magic acquired fourth in the East. Paulo Banqueiro, 25.6 rebounds, 10 assists, and the win tonight.

Why do you believe Paulo and the Magic are flying under the radar? One, in a small market. Two, they're a young team. No one respects the young teams. But the young teams in this league are starting to play very hard. They are the most consistent

at showing up every day. The Orlando's, the Cavs, Sacramento, O'Keefe. They run, they run, Gil. Slow your ass down. Everybody's trying to load manage. Everybody's trying to load manage. Them young boys are like, nah, we good over here.

We can play our 38-41. We good over here, coach. So the fact that just the consistency of them over here. We can play our 38-41. We good over here, coach. So, the fact that just the consistency of them just playing hard every game, and they know they can steal some of these wins on teams that are load managing.

Yeah. I mean, I ain't really putting a whole lot of thought because they beat the Wizards tonight, and the Wizards me and the Wizards won the same amount of games in February. Zero. We won the same amount of games in March thus far. Zero.

So I'm not putting a whole lot of cost. And guess what, Gil? They might not win another damn game. Listen, the best thing the Wizards had going on tonight is the hat that I designed. I designed the hat for March 6th. Special design, a legacy hat.

Yeah. The first 10,000 people showed up, got the hat. That's what sold the building out. You know what? I'd have killed up, got the hat, and left. Because I already know we're going to catch an L. I'd have got me a hat and said, this is what I came for. I paid $2 or $3 a lot for a hat. It is what I came for. I paid two or three a lot for a hand.

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And who doesn't want that? Listen now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Gil, guess what? It's time for our next segment of the night, and it's called News Cap. Let's see what we're starting off with first. Let's see what we're starting off with first. Jadis Aguil, Udonis Haslam says, Chris Bosh was more important than LeBron James during the Big 3 era.

Can we take a listen to what UD had to say? Let's play the sound. I'm telling you, CB, if he stayed healthy, he would still be playing. Everybody think that our most important player was Bron. Our most important player, not our best player, but our most important player was CB. Yeah. He was our most important player.

Yeah. If Bron went down, you could bring in D Wade and it's not the same player, but you're gonna get similar results of what you're gonna get out of the player. Making plays, he can go for 30. We couldn't, we couldn't simulate it. We ain't have another CB. The way Spoh started using him too was impossible to guard. Like he was shooting threes.

Like he was, that man was cold, brother. Like, he was shooting threes. Like, he was. That's why. That man was cold, brother. He closed it out on threes as a big. That's what I'm saying. Gil, go ahead, Gil. Take off with this. Unk, I caused some heat for this Unk.

They thought I was lying up. A lot of people said, was you there? Where'd you get the information? You remember when D-W Wade and CP3 was talking about we're going to start the big three? Yeah. I said, and everybody was like, oh, CP3, Wade, and LeBron. And I came on here like, ah, that's not what Pat Roddy was envisioning, right? They thought they can get rid of Braun and bring in CP because they thought that they can

replace. What they needed was somebody who can control the game because they felt that they would have won with CP3 Bosh Wade.

Everybody thought I was tripping when I said that. But you can see how the players felt Chris Bosh was way more important to the team because he was unreplaceable. He can play the five, stretch the floor. He can play the four and stretch the floor. So he was way more important

in the team. Could Chris Bosh guard Tony Parker? No, that was Chris. He could be three. No. He'd be three. LeBron did. Did you remember those guys when they put, when Tony Parker went haywire and they lost game

one, and then they started putting LeBron James on Tony Parker, and he shut it down, and then they moved LeBron James to the five, and he guarded Tim Duncan. But what I'm saying is when I said they were making that trade and I said that big three was going to be with

LeBron. Everybody thought LeBron was going to be in that big three and I was like, nah, they were bringing in, they were trying to bring in the point guard. They were trying to bring in the white for LeBron. Everybody just assumed that it was a LeBron and she's gone. But you can see how the players, UD is saying who was important to them.

I'm not going to disagree and say, you know, well, maybe they weren't looking to replace LeBron. But CB on his best day could never do all the things that LeBron did. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like, but no, like it wasn't it wasn't one of those things where who was the better player right we know who the better player is just for what they were trying to do they were like well Wade can be Braun he can average 30 we need someone who can pass the ball a little bit more and is willing to accept their role. So that was the idea that went into the mindset. You remember when, let me ask you a question.

You remember when Chris Bosh went down against Indiana and he missed, what, the first four or five games? So if LeBron goes down in that series, do they win that series? No. Why not? The most important player is still there. Don't miss a match?

That's what I'm saying. There's a difference between reality Exactly. That sounds good. Oh, I get it. Oh, I want to hype my guy CB. I ain't saying the best. I'm saying the most important. If LeBron James doesn't play game six against Boston,

CB there, the most important player, are they winning that game? With Chris Paul? With Chris Bosh. No, no, I'm just saying. Oh, with Chris? Hell no, they're not winning. They're not winning that game with Chris Paul.

But that's what I'm saying. No, but that's what I'm saying. When people start to thinking, that's why they said, like, when we value, that's why I said, players value weight different. They think, like, who can make the game easier? So we start looking at people's greatness for, I'm like, we can get rid of, y'all, because the media does it all the time. Oh, they better without you. Players really start believing that shit.

They do. Hold on. What did I miss? I'm older than Chris Paul. I remember this whole career. When did Chris Paul become all of a sudden Magic Johnson in the postseason? What did I miss? When Braun had that

bad finals and everybody turned on Braun and everybody started laughing and, oh on Braun. Yes. And everybody started laughing. And, oh, Braun, it was that summer. That's why I said when Chris Paul and D-Wade was laughing, they didn't say they had a conversation with LeBron. They had a conversation with each other. Right. Right?

It was that series when they're sitting back and looking like, shit, D-Wade, Bosh played well, Braun didn't play so well, but Braun don't want to play, be Pippen? Oh, we can bring in Chris Paul and he can be the Pippen for us. So they themselves eternally was saying, we can't replace Bosh, but we can replace Braun and still be effective. But you see what happened when Braun left. So when LeBron left, what happened?

Because I'm looking at LeBron. That's what I'm saying. But you see how sometimes even players misjudge who's important to a team. Yes. Yes. LeBron averaged during the 2012 postseason run, LeBron averaged 30, almost 10 rebounds, almost six assists, almost two steals a game

on 50% shooting. Yeah. Man, we got to stop. Look, I'm just baffled. Like I said, I'm old enough to remember. I remember every game, Chris Paul has never been LeBron. But that's what I'm just, I'm baffled. Like I said, I'm old enough to remember. I remember every game, Chris Paul has never been LeBron. But that's what I'm saying. They're not thinking about the championships they won.

They're thinking about that series that they lost. And they're looking at their valuation. That's how it is. Just like when Kobe had to prove a point. Right. Oh, you know, if Kobe passed the ball, you know, we can win a series. And we can do this and do that. And Kobe said, okay.

Okay. Lost, lost, lost, lost. I thought these guys were supposed to be good if I passed the ball. Trash, trash, trash, trash. You know what I mean? And that's what ends up happening. You get this false sense of what reality really is. It really is.

Because, I mean, LeBron, and then the next year, of what reality really is. It really is. Because, I mean, LeBron, and then the next year, he followed up averaging 26, almost nine rebounds, almost seven assists, almost two steals a game on 49% shooting. See, sometimes you take a player can be so great and you around him, you don't really see the greatness. I mean, because I disagree I mean hey he believed that their

most important player but it's hard for me to believe that Chris Bosch was more important to the Heat because he couldn't do the things that LeBron did like LeBron could at that point in time in his career LeBron could. At that point in time in his career, LeBron could legitimately

guard one through five. From Tony Parker to D-Roll to Paul Pierce to a Kevin Garnett to a Tim Duncan. Now, I'm not saying he's going to take Tim Duncan for the entirety of the game. I'm not saying he's going to guard Kevin Garnett, but when they went to that

lineup, oh, he absolutely could because we saw it in game seven of the final against San Antonio. There's no difference when a coach is putting someone on the bench because they think it makes the team better when in reality it don't.

It's just these false prenotions we put in our heads. And that's what Miami did. Just like if someone says, Pat Bev is the most important player on the defensive end to the Bucs because he talks.

And then he incites Portis and them two sitting there with all this energy and doing all that. Right? It's believable, But is it reality? Yeah. You know what I mean? That's all it is. It's not it's not a reality because if Chris Paul comes there, you guys are not winning two championships. You guys are not even getting to the finals, and that's the fact, right?

Because what happens is LeBron gets doubled, which frees Dwyane Wade. There's nobody doubling Chris Paul. They're going to be doubling Dwyane Wade. Now,

CP3 has to be Dwyane Wade, which he can't do that. Right? Right. See, if you're doubling LeBron, Dwyane Wade gets to play by himself. Yes. Iso basketball, he gets to dominate the game. Yeah.

If we double Dwyane Wade, LeBron gets to eat. Bosh gets to eat. If you double Dwyane Wade, Chris Paul can't mimic. No. That dominance. I agree. You know what I mean? That's what I said.

So reality is not real. That's just locker room talk shit when you, when motherfuckers speaking behind the scenes. Like, yeah, man, I don't know if it's going to be a good thing for us, man. You see what he did in the finals, man? Oh, man, we might need to trade him, man. Hey, I guess when LeBron had that game six, they went to Chris. Hey, LeBron, you see what he did in the finals, man? Oh, man, we might need to trade him, man. Hey, I guess when LeBron had that game six, they went to Chris, hey, LeBron, you played well.

CB, we could have done this without you. CB, we could have done this without you. It's one of those things, man. It probably was that conversation after that when they lost to Dallas, and them boys was having conversations that summer. Yeah. Yeah, that's all that was.

Draymond says Victor Wimby doesn't deserve this defensive player of the year. Let's take a listen to what Dray had to say. Play the sound. He's currently second in odds to win defensive player of the year,

although I can't quite agree with that because they have the 24th best defense in the league. Now, that's where you kind of get into, like, his team is not that good. They're young, blah, blah, blah.

But what he's doing is incredible. But you just can't move the line like that. Like, you're not allowed to just because he's young and the team is bad, a guy on the 24th best defense in the league can win defensive player of the year.

I don't agree with that. Gil, what's your take? Listen, the award is defensive player of the year. The defensive team of the year. Yeah. He is more important than Draymond was when Draymond won defensive player of the year. See, Draymond, it was a five points difference when Draymond was on and off the floor. Correct.

When Wimby is 7.4, right? So his impact, he impacts the defense more than Draymond Green does. The problem with Wimby is there's no other players that know how to play defense on his team. Correct. So when he's in the game, like as a team, they're 24. When he's in the

game defensively, they're around, what, top five when he's playing. Well, because you got to remember, he's only playing about 29 to 30 minutes, so that means 18 minutes he's playing. Well, because you got to remember, he's only playing about 29 to 30 minutes. So that means 18 minutes, he's not on the court. Yeah. People are scoring.

Yeah. Well, Draymond, you had Iguodala. You had Klay Thompson, right? You had Gary Payton Jr. So when you was off the court, you still had a team defensively held it down. Offensively, they were a juggernaut team. Right. If you offensively had the best team,

so when you're not in the game offensively, they're just doing what they're doing. You got Hall of Famers on your team to keep you in the top one, two, or three. Right. Right? So he doesn't have that. You can't penalize him because he doesn't have KD,

Curry, or Klay on the team. That's not his fault. As a player by himself, he is doing his job. This is one of those things where you have to move the goalposts. In 56 games, he's averaging 20 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 steal, and lead the league in blocks. I think the last rookie to lead the league in blocks was David Robinson, if I'm not mistaken. Along with leading the NBA in blocks per game and total blocks. Wimby is 12th in rebounds, 14th in steals, 10th in defensive win shares, and third in defensive rating.

Yeah, so that's defensive player of the year. Yes. Right, yeah, that's what I'm saying. So right now they're trying to put team success. Yes. And that's what I'm saying. Like sometimes there is an anomaly, and he is that person that's coming into the league. And defensively, he is the one person out there that's doing the job.

It's no different than rebounding and rebounding totals. Right. Right. If my team is last, but I got I'm averaging 20 goddamn rebounds a game. You've got to give me the award. Draymond also later talked about Tatum deserving MVP when talking about team success. And the MVP has been something that we've talked about on first tape a lot lately. But here's the thing now. People always talk

about, oh, he's the best player on the best team. But we looked at some, you know, I guess a lot of the voters, they go to second level and next level stats. Here it is. In clutch time, in clutch, of players that's taken at least 45 field goal attempts,

Jason Tatum is 15 of 46. That's 32.6%. In clutch time, game within five points, last five minutes of the game. Out of 25 players, what do you think Jason Tatum ranks? Last. I would say I know I jumped the gun with the Jeopardy. I was supposed to go.

I was about to throw out about 10. He's dead last. SGA is one. Nikola Jokic, Jokic is two. Who do you think is number three? LeBron James. LeBron James, probably. So the best player on the best team in clutch time,

last five minutes of the game. Game within five points. Well, okay, okay, hold on. Okay, that's... It was just on display last night. They had a 22-point lead against Cleveland last night. We just saw it on display. We just saw it.

But that can be deceiving, too. You can't use that metrics in because their team is number one and how many close games have they actually had? That's my point. Right, just because they're blowing teams out. Just like when Steph was doing it, right? When Steph was winning and he won MVP,

what was his clutch rating? It wouldn't have been that high because he was never in the game for clutch moments. No, but here's the thing. We're just taking players that have attempted at least 45 shots. So, yes, they've won a lot of games, but he's 15 of 46. Okay, so what is the clutch metric? The last five minutes of the game, the game's 15-46. Okay, so what is the clutch metric? Last five minutes of the

game, the game within five points. So we're just talking about that. That's all we're talking about, Gil. We ain't talking about no other time in the game. That's it. Well, all right, so let me see. Last five minutes, so that'll be Shea, because he's going to

always have the ball. Yep. The ball goes into Jokic, right? Of course Shea because he's going to always have the ball. The ball goes into Jokic. Of course LeBron is going to control all of that. I'm pretty sure Giannis But that doesn't deter me from if he's going to be an MVP or not I I still have Shea at Yoke is just too I think I would go I would go the other way uh I would go Yoke one Shea two I probably me Gil I'll probably put Giannis at three

because but here's the thing with Giannis Giannis seasons have been so I mean he's averaging 30 giving you 12 giving you 6 but you say yeah but he did that last year and he did that the year before and he did that the year before so you get numb to him giving you 30 12 and 6

and then when you go back and I mean at some point in time we're going to come back and look like man Giannis had like five seasons. He went 30, 12 and six. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that's I think that's what happens, Gil, is that we get so accustomed to great players doing great things and they make it look so easy. Mm hmm.

What the hell if it was easy? A lot of other people would do it. I mean, you're talking about only a handful of guys. You're talking about a guy like a Wilt, a guy like a Kareem that's averaged, you know, 30 points, 13 or more rebounds. Elgin Baylor.

There only been a handful of guys that put up 30 of those kinds of numbers. Okay, so with Jokic, right? Yes. When he won the MVP, he averaged 26, 10, and 8. The second MVP,

27, 8, and damn near 14. He lost 24, 99 and 11. This year, he's averaging 26-9 and 12, right? Yeah. Last year, they were one. This year, they're three. Why would he be one?

Because last year, if Joe... let me ask you a question. If Joel Embiid doesn't go 34-10-5, who is the MVP? Because Joel Embiid has such a historic season. I mean, we get 20, we get 26-6-6. They're growing trees. Yeah, Jokic wins it. Jokic would have won it last year. Yes. Right?

So from last year to this year, he was number one last year. He's number three this year, and his numbers are not really changing. So what is the metrics of why he should be number one? He hasn't made no quantum leap to justify it. I think

Jason Tatum is down in points. Give me Jason Tatum's numbers. He shot 63% last year. He's shooting 57%. God damn. That's what I'm saying, but Jason Tatum wouldn't be mine either because his team was good. That's why when I say I put Shea,

I put Shea because everything he's doing. Team is successful. He's averaging 31 last year. He's averaging 2.2 steals, six assists, five rebounds. So for the most part, he's playing a lot better with the second youngest team.

He wasn't expected to do this. so he's playing like an MVP. Yogi's just playing like an MVP. I think the thing is, see, what we just talked about, who did we just talk about? Giannis. We've gotten so accustomed to 26-12-9 that you're like, oh, man, man, get out of here. That ain't nothing.

Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. But what is he doing? Like, what is he doing different? Like when we say, all right, he didn't win it last year. He was ranked one. They won a championship. He's the defending champ. Is he playing like a defending

champ or is he just playing to his standards? Like if his team was Boston, if his record was like Boston is, hands down, yes. But his team is kind of worse than they were last year. And the guy that he's competing with is having an MVP number and his team is playing like a champion. I think the biggest difference is that we didn't have the expectations for OKC. difference is is that we didn't have the expectations for okc so now if and so because of the expectation but you can't punish loke yoki because you've set the bar so high and if he doesn't

so if i if if i'm the best high jumper and you set the bar at seven eight and i've cleared the bar seven eight like seven times and all of a sudden on this occasion i don't clear you like well yeah you're not the best high jumper. Actually, I am. You just had the bar so low for the other guys to get over it that they're still not clearing 7-8. So let me ask you a question. I like, because I just think the thing is with what he does, what he's asked to do, and Jamal Murray has been out,

missed some games, and we know that's the best duo in basketball. And no shade to Tatum and Brown. No shade to Giannis and Dane or AD and Bron. But that's the best duo in basketball.

So a duo. He has help. Okay. Okay. I see where you're going. He's a one man He has help. Okay. Okay. I see where you're going. Yeah. He's a one-man show right now. Yeah.

Williams is good, but I don't believe he's Jamal Murray. I don't believe he's Jalen Brown. So I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. Jason Tatum is 27, 8.5, and 5. Jokic is 26, 12, and 9. SGA, 31.5, and 5. Jokic is 26, 26, 12, and 9. SGA, 31, 5, and 6. Giannis is 30, 11, and 6.

So I have Tatum third, right? He averaged 30 last year. Timo second, right? He's not doing... I mean, he's playing solid. Right? He's playing solid. And they added Przingis. So you think... Yeah, exactly. I know

your numbers is going to go down, so we can't penalize you for that. I guess if they finished their season well, like, let's say they finished the season well, like let's say they finished on like a 10-game winning streak, I think they're going to take that in consideration. To be honest, I wouldn't be, at this point, whoever wins it between them three,

it's going to go down how Embiid, Giannis, and Jokic went last year. Really going to go down to that last week and who's balling and who's winning. Because right now, all three really have a case. One has the record. One has, you don't even think we're supposed to be here. The other one still has, like, I'm the champ. We still in contention.

We still the best team here. I'm still the best player in the league. What's the problem? Right. The Dallas Mavericks slumped to their third straight loss last night, losing 137 120 to the Pacers. It's their fifth loss in the last six games, but head

coach Jason Kidd said it's not all doom and gloom. There's a lot of positive things happening out there. I can't tell. As I said earlier, Rome wasn't built in a day. Yeah, but they laid more than one brick. 2011 wasn't built in a day, right? but they laid more than one brick. 2000 level wasn't built in a day, right? And so there are only a few of us in that locker room who've won at the highest level.

And when you look at the Mavs post-All-Star break, there's one glaring issue. And it's not just after the All-Star break. It's been a whole year. Defense, they stink. Dallas have the 126th is the worst rating and defensive rating in the league. They've done well at the offensive end.

118th ranks fourth. But still, they're giving up eight more points on the defensive end than they're scoring. That's bad. So, but it's not enough. So, what do you see going on with the Mavs they're just

they're just not you remember last year right last year when they got Kyrie over there right it took a real big nosedive you just can't have too bad defensive players on a team. You got two guys

that really are liabilities. That right there, it don't matter really who you got back there. It will help a little bit. But the fact that you got two guys that one... Rest his soul, Bill Russell might help.

I don't. You don't think he's going to help either? No, because he'll be in foul trouble because you're going to have guys coming to the rim the whole night. Right. Just like AD and LeBron. Yeah, you guys are great defense,

but if you got Monk and Fox coming in and Sabonis coming in the whole time, you're going to be in foul trouble. You're going to give up points. And that's what it is. Their guys are blowing by them like you know they babysitting

sitting in the straw but here's the thing you know we had this conversation on first take me, Pert, and Stephen A and I say they don't play no defense oh man don't nobody play no defense I say but not to that level I mean you got I mean they can't even

guard a guy with a part, with a ooze in a parked car. So how you, so how, if you giving up eight more points on the defensive end, then you're scoring on the offensive end. I'm like, what, what, what am I missing? Y'all keep saying, don't nobody play no defense. Okay.

Let's just say for the first, the sake of argument, the first 40 plus minutes of the game, nobody plays defense. But what happened when it's in a nip-tuck ball game? The clutch time, the last five. One team get layups, and you got to launch threes late in the shot clock. Or they come get the ball out of Kyrie's hand, and they don't let Kyrie get to the paint. Or they don't let Luka get to the paint.

Then what? Okay, y'all missed. You're not a great rebounding team. Now they get the ball. They go down there. They get a layup again Okay, y'all missed. You're not a great rebounding team. Now they get the ball. They go down there. They get a layup again because y'all ain't got no rim protection. Yeah, yeah.

I just think at this point that they've built a team around Luka's offense and having him protect you defensively. And the problem with that is if they bring in guys that can play defense, but can't score, there's going to be a focal point on Luka,

and that's going to take away the scoring, right? So, you know, right now, they're probably trying to figure out what the best, best scenario is to build this team around Luka, right? I'm pretty sure that they're going to go after more Euro-type players, bigger guys that can protect the paint, rebound, and still keep the floor spread for Luka to hit as much as he does.

He hasn't been born yet. The only one that can do that is Wimby. What other Euro guy can protect the paint? They're going to have to make some trays, go around there and grab some of them guys, some marketings and some of those guys there. Because they need height. They need height, and they need people to spread the floor still.

Right now, they're too small trying to play guards. Well, they better go. They better find some big, tall American to go over there and make with some European female. And they can create something that can protect the paint. Because that's not what Euro players are known for. think Porzingis kind of like him and Luca like clashing kind of messed up the the build of that team right because he has to hide he spreads the floor yes from get another like big that can like rim rim rim run yeah right and now you have this this great little combo but right now you have this great little combo. But right now, you just have a bunch of guards that can flat out shoot,

but can't play a defense worth of nothing. Right. That's going to be tough. That's going to be tough, because I don't know. They're a real summer away. They're a real summer away of being. They got to be really aggressive, or they're going to be at least three years away,

and Luka's going to be just a machine with no winning. Well, they better hurry up and get done because Luka, next contract, he can get $80 million a year. So, here's a whole lot of players you can put around a guy with one guy making $80 million a year. Hey, they billionaires around here. Yeah. But the cap, and now they penalize you.

You get that repeater. Now they penalize you because they don't want that. They don't want you putting three. They don't want you doing what Golden State did. They're not going to let you do what the Miami Heat did and put three big guys together. Now, granted, the Heat was a lot. I mean, in both those situations,

most of the guys took, what, three, four, five million dollars a year pay cuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But at 80 million a year, most guys now ain't willing to take no pay cut. Those days are over. Listen, all of that,

that is it's fools gold it's smoke and mirrors whatever you're putting in these are owners trying to play Monopoly they all want to start

with the same amount of money on a Monopoly board we all going to start with $1,500 damn well some of them are already throwing their own little money into the game. Because I know I do it. I already got a couple $500 sacks in the pocket.

We go around about 30 minutes and I start buying like, wait, what happened? How do you get that much money? I already started the game cheating. I ain't even going to lie. But that's how the NBA is. We're not. This ain't fair.

This ain't fair, Huck. Right? So they put all these handicaps in if they want to. Gil, how you buying property and you been in jail three times? And they say, take your ass to jail. Do not go and do not collect $200. So how the hell you got $3,500 right now and you done been to jail three times?

That's why you got to be strategic when you pull your money out. I'll start the game with about at least $900 extra. Oh, no, have mercy. I'm not even going to. Out the gate, though. I'm not even going. Out the gate? I'm cheating from the beginning.

You got to check your pockets when we start the game. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to, hey, hey, yeah, we got to change. Let me see your pockets. Because, hey, ain't no way you done been in jail. The three times you rolled, you went to jail. And now all of a sudden, you Brian Park Place. You Brian Boardwalk.

Wait, what? And I'm this type of cheater. Boardwalk? It ain't even in the cards. I done took that out. Ain't nobody laying on an ass. Not from the card. I done took that out already. Yeah nobody laying on an app. Not from the car.

I done took that out already. Yeah, baby. I done took it out. We ain't gonna have, we ain't gonna have you just hitting the chance and then thinking you about to go get the book. No, no,

no, no, no, no, no. It's not that the board is, is if you get both of them, that's what will bankrupt you.

Or if you get like all the, if you get like, if you can line up all the properties, all the oranges, all the blue, all the green. Now, obviously, it's harder in that corner.

But man, you mess around and get all the waterworks or something like that and you got to pay double. Yeah. Hey, you better start with age. I'm telling my secrets, man.

My kids probably watching. Oh, I don't know. The kids just cheat all the time. I already know. Because that's what they're telling me when they're young. I say, y'all are two in cahoots. And they tell my daddy what cahoots mean. I say, y'all are two conspiring against me.

He land on your property. You don't charge him. I land. I got to pay full price. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, y'all swap it. Okay. You got one section over here.

Now, all of a sudden, I got to come. You trade those properties at less than value just so he got the whole corner and I got to land on it. I say, man, y'all. So bad, man. You got to put your own rules in. You got to put your own. Sometimes they listen. I even do this when you land on it

we got a bid for it it ain't automatically yours oh yeah oh hell nah I make up all kind of rules whatever you land on we got a bid on it it ain't automatically yours

and you just go to bidding oh nah hell nah I land on that I buy that you got that extra 900 We got to bid on it. It ain't automatically yours. And you just go to bidding. Oh, no. Hell, no. I land on that. I buy that. You got that extra 900? When you got that extra 900, you see that extra 900 come in there.

And you got to go behind the board once. Because you can't start rolling the dice and say, OK, I land on boardwalk. I got to know, bro. You got to go around the board. It depends on where my school is. The pen is an adult diaper. That's what the pen is. I don't know what you're talking about, Keel. You're talking about the pen.

You can't just start rolling the dice and start buying property as you roll the dice out the gate. My kids go to public school. They can't read that damn good. They can read the instructions, uncle. They're not reading instructions like good. They ain't reading the instructions, huh? They're not reading the instructions like that. I'm reading.

I'm the bank. Hey, I'm the bank. Well, see, that's first and foremost. You never going to be the bank. Because I already know. No, no, no, no, no, no. Come on. Come on.

Someone got to keep control of the money, man. Nah. Nah. Hey, I'm either the bank or I'm the property manager. I'm in control of something. When'd you buy something? I'll buy something and if you ain't looking, I done took my money back.

I ain't put it in the bank. I do that. Yeah. See, I do that. See? I knew you. I knew you did something cheating. Yeah, I knew that. Yesterday, Zion was asked whether he sees himself taking part in the dunk contest in the future. He said, I've got to do my part, make the all-star game. If I'm an all-star, I'll do the dunk contest.

If I'm in, if I'm not, I'm not doing it. Zion has made the all-star game for the first time in 2021 in his second season. He was also an all-star again last year, but skipped the game because of a hamstring injury. What would be your, what's your dream? You're talking about past and present. We do a past and present. What would be your dream? Let's just say this moving forward.

So 2025, what would be your dream all-star game dunk contest? I would have Zion. I would have Zion I will have Ja Jalen Green um Ant-Man oh Anthony Edwards well is it only four now or how many did he get four and then I would do I would do Zach Levine if he's healthy. You can only have well damn how many guys you want to come? Well you got to

you got to okay okay okay how about this we have five because what we got to have you can't have a guy that won a dunk contest

the past two years not come. Then you got Clark McClung. Shit I wouldn't even be I wouldn't even put one of those toppings back in. I wouldn't be mad at that, too, because I got dunkers

and I got names. I got dunkers and names. They should go back to six to eight. I don't like four. Well, the reason why they stopped going to six to eight is because guys were missing like five dunks. So that was 30 missed dunks. So the dunk contest

was taking as long as an NBA game. Yeah, you mean, listen, it's just like the three-point contest. Either you own or not. You missed the dunking show at next. Next. Right? And that's just the facts of it.

Yeah, but that was the problem, Gil. Guys were missing so many dunks before they got one. Guys were missing five, six, seven times. What the heck? Bro, you miss a dunk after you miss it the first time, bro, hey, go on and sit down. But that's it.

This is the dunk contest. You have to be on. We have to make up the room for the guys who won it. Did Vince Carter mix dunks? No. Even with Spud Webb, when he won, he didn't miss a dunk. Right? It was destined for him.

Right? So it's one of those things where you put eight people in, hey, you missed your dunk. But God damn it, it just wasn't your time. Right. Next. Right. Next. Yeah. Man, them Jokers missed a hundred dunks.

I was like, nah, I'm good on that situation. I guess it looked like with the way Colin Sexton dunked the ball after the buzzer, he might need to be in the dunk contest. Right? You see that? Like, wait a minute, brother. You like the government. Hold on.

Let me go ahead and put your name right here. You got an automatic invite. Yeah, we got to keep an eye on you. But Zion said he would enter if he makes the All-Star game. And if he's healthy, hopefully he's healthy. Because I like to see him do it. But see, he strikes me as a power dunker. He's more of a Dominique Wilkins type dunker.

Not like an Aaron Gord or Zach Levine creative Vince Carter. Vince Carter was one of the few that was a creative power dunker. He still dunked with a lot of authority even though he had creativity

with it. I mean, okay, we got to, he got the, he got the windmill between the legs. He got the 360 windmill. He can probably, he can probably, and he can dunk with his left. He can jump with his left and his right. Same height. Who that? Vince?

Zion. So there's only a few that got the same, like, J.R. Smith, right, where they had a 44 off the left and off the right, which is rare, right? Like, that is a rare, those are rarity players who can jump off the left, the right, and both. So Zion can jump off of his, like, if you see him, sometimes he came down with the right, like LeBron, and he'll switch to the other side. He's one of those guys who got dual, he got dual power where he can get creative. He can get creative.

But see, the question is, can he jump off one? Because a lot of times, like Zach Levine is what we call a one-foot dunker. Yeah. Dominique is more what we call a two-foot dunker. Two-foot dunker. So it'd be interesting. Aaron Gordon, man, for him to do some of the dunks that he did and not to win the contest. Man, I just hate it. Because, man, that was great.

So, in other words, when Aaron Gordon and Zach Levine was going, it was pretty good. So LeBron didn't kill the dunk contest, huh? No. Oh, okay. I was just making sure. Nah, it's just one of those things, man, where we wish we got to see it. That's all. just making sure. It's just one of those things, man, where we wish we got to see it.

That's all. That's it. It's just fantasy. We wish we got to see him in the dunk contest. You know what? I had to crush on a girl in the 10th grade. I sure wish I could have saw her naked. I didn't, but I turned out okay anyway. You know what I'm saying?

If you didn't see LeBron in the dunk contest, you okay. You saw some great dunk cont anyway. You know what I'm saying? If you didn't see LeBron in the dunk contest, you okay. You saw some great dunk contests. You got an opportunity to see Zach Levine and Aaron Gordon go at it. I mean, Mack McClellan, the dunk that he's doing at his size, that's impressive. And besides, we only have one other white guy to ever win the dunk contest. Hell, I don't think we have about two that's entered it.

Britt Barry and Matt McClung, can you remember any other white guys that entered? No. It's done. It's over. Oh, no. I think Tom Chambers. Did Tom Chambers enter the dunk contest? Tom Chambers is dunk.

Back in like, what, 88? No, he wasn't. Man, Tom Chambers. That would have been Jordan or Dominique. Huh? That would have been Jordan or Dominique then. No, he wouldn't. Man, Tom Chambers. That would have been Jordan or Dominique. Huh? That would have been Jordan or Dominique then. No, I didn't say when. I said entered. Oh, yeah, he entered.

Yeah. Tom Chambers had some ups. Who did he dunk on with both feet? I hope that ain't Mark. I don't know. I think it might have been Mark Jackson. When he dunked the ball with both hands and had both his knees on Mark's head.

I don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can we? Was that who he was? Rich Chapman? No, there was a few more. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

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too many filters when discussing their recent success. The Knicks are like Instagram models. I'd be on Instagram and I'd be like, damn, she's fine. Then you catch them in person, you're like, this you? Too many filters. KG said it's two different things reality versus digital so what about watching

on TV then? Pierce says an Instagram model that you got to fashion over they got that fashion over on it said the current Knicks team won't make it past the first round against the Heat or the Pacers what's your thought on what

Paul Pierce said no okay I don't think they're going to make it past the heat of court the Pacers they have a better chance because that game will be slow and Pacers don't have a go to guy so when you get

put in that half court and you need to get buckets at the end of the game New York has a Brunson and then you do have Julius Randle who can get it going too court and you need to get buckets at the end of the game, New York has a Brunson. You have a Brunson and then you do have Julius Randle who can get it going too. The Pacers don't have that guy. It's like when the Suns

make the playoff. When the Suns back in my era was making the playoffs. They're a great up and down team. When you need to get a bucket in the last five minutes, who are you going to go to? They don't have that guy. They got to work their offense and try to get a good shot versus giving it down

to a guy and he's making all those plays. I disagree with they won't make it out of the first round if they played Indiana, if they played Miami or any other team. They can beat halves in the first round. There's a few teams that they can beat in the first round.

Here's the thing. You better rebound because Indiana, they're looking to make or miss. They're looking to push the ball. They'll take it out of the net and push it, or they'll take off running if you miss it. It doesn't matter. Miss free throws, made free throws, made baskets, missed baskets. It does not matter. They're looking to push the pace.

You can't do that in the playoffs, though. It's harder in the playoffs. It's just harder. The game's tighter. Everyone's watching everything. So something like that, on the offensive rebound, they'll

just deny. Like it'd be one of those things where we're going to deny the first pass so the ball couldn't get up the court. Right. Just to slow down, make him catch in front of us,

not on the run. Like so with like Jason Kidd, he wants to loop out and catch on the run with somebody be sitting on both sides to make sure he doesn't do that, which slows it down a little bit. Or no one offensive rebounds in the first half. And we just all five get back. Right.

That's when strategy really kicks in. And you try not to give up easy, easy things. And that open court, because you want everybody to just really play half court basketball and let the offense work. Right. Well, that'd be interesting. I like that. That was a great analogy. Instagram model, you know, you're like, damn, she fine.

You catch up in person like, this you? That's Bucks. That's Doc Rivers right there. Old catfish ass. It's time for our last segment of the night Gil it's called Q and A so let's

hopefully we got sound Ash there we go hey upgrade King at night cap just ordered a bottle of La Portia I have two OG bottles out of the 25,000 I don't want to open I'll keep you updated when I receive it one love bro I appreciate the support

you've been one of our guys that tune in the nightcap from the very beginning so it's all love so I greatly greatly appreciate that David Bell says shout out to Shannon McGill glad you interviewed Steve Stout man who was responsible for a lot of things and artists in hip hop

crazy to see you in Queens Ridge and with Jungle and Wiz and the story it was crazy to me because obviously I had interviewed Metta World Peace, I had interviewed Mike Tyson so I had heard about it

and when Steve was like okay we went to his officeyson so i had heard about it and when uh when steve's like okay we went to his office and so i thought that was it he said nah we're gonna go to queen i said queens where jerry queen i said you know i don't want to i'm good you know i'm going back to the hotel and eat i don't need you know days and now we're going i was like huh and so i was like your outfit costs more than mine, so they're going to hit you over your head first. I don't need it. I got repaired hips, but I still could not run you.

So I'm good. I was good, Gil. So it was great. And they were explaining it, so I was like, man, who are we going to meet? They're like, we're going to meet explaining so I was like man who are we going to meet they were like we're going to meet Jungle I was like

they called this place and said nah it's a dude so he didn't tell me he didn't really fill me in he was just saying we're going you know blah blah blah I'm going to tell you how how I got so forth and so on so when we go out there so we pulling up so we got the guys got the windows out

and people man that's that's on man. Hey, I'll get the bridge, man. I'll get it. I'm like, let me roll this thing up right quick. Hey, y'all blow. Yeah. Y'all ghost to be bad.

You're blowing my cover. So it was all good. So we got out and so we walk and he's like, Hey, he introduced himself saying, man, I'm jungle dudes. Like I'm wiz. And so, you know talking i'm like okay and so i i'm asking i said okay explain the story how you know steve came over he said man we were sitting kind of like right where we are right now and this car pulls up and it stops and i'm like i ain't recognizing me nobody really recognized him at first and like this fence wasn't right him. Ain't nobody really recognize him at first.

And like the fence wasn't right. So like a fence right there. He's like, and Steve was like, okay, we got, I got in the car. He's like, well, this thing's like, nah, the fence wasn't here. And he said he started walking through the grass. So I guess that's a no-no. But anyway, so Jungle said I was sitting up on top of the bench. And so, as he got around and started talking, I had to...

Got that bang from up under the bench. And so, by the time I get ready, I grabbed that iron. Wiz said, nah, man, this the dude that make the beast for Biggie. Oh, he cool. He said, Jungle said, hey, if Wiz had said that, da-da-da-da, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. So it was great. And then we hit Nas up on the phone.

You know, Uncle Man, you in the bridge, man. But it was great. I like going in the field. Look, I like sitting down on the couch. but I like going on the road and seeing guys like I did the piece with Phil Heath who's a seven-time Mr. Olympia. Got to work out with him. So I kind of like going in the field.

But it was really cool. And it was cold that day too. It was cold that day. And I look and the thing with people like, man, man, look what Unk got on. We shot that earlier, okay? We didn't release it to try to refute anything. I'm going to wear what I'm going to wear.

I like wearing Aloe. I like wearing Lululemon. That's what I'm going to wear. But in this situation, man, it was cold in New York. Man, you see, I had my hands in my damn pockets. At that time of the night, it was cold. It was in December. Hold on. What was that, Jordan? It was in December.

So we taped that in December. Y'all know what the weather is in New York. Hell, if you live in New York, you know damn well, even if you live in the United States, you know what the damn weather is in New York in December. Yeah, I'm not. Listen, I'm all for

the field. I'm never going no place where I feel scared. If I feel scared, I'm not getting out of the car. I don't care. It could be giving out

presents. I don't care what it is. I'm not getting out of the car. So you already know. I go to Beverly Hills, Santa Monica. I go downtown some places. Other than that, my GPS just don't go certain locations. My car stops. I'm getting a Tesla, and I'm going to program it.

Hey, when it gets past, hey, Tom, then all that, turn around. Take me back home. I think the thing is, Gil, a lot of times where you go, the way you carry yourself, the number one currency in any hood is respect. Don't you take your ass in wherever you

are. Don't you take your ass in there all of a sudden, oh, I'm better than you because I got this. The one thing I've noticed, and I've been a lot of different places, is that I give everybody respect. I show respect. They're going to give you respect. They know who you are. Now, some

people don't say, I don't give a F who you are. Don't run that through here. So, I went in there, hey, watch, hey, I always do this gear. Every time I meet somebody, how you doing, bro? I'm Shannon Sharp. Man, hey, I always do this gear. Every time I meet somebody, how you doing, bro?

I'm Shannon Sharp. Man, oh, we know who you are. Nah, but I'm not arrogant enough to believe everybody does. So it doesn't matter,

man. Hey, somebody, this is my son. Hey, I'm Shannon Sharp. So I go places that I'm not familiar with.

That's how I carry myself. I'm not, you know, obviously I wouldn't, I wouldn't go there because I don't really know anybody in that area. So I, in that neighborhood, so I don't have any reason to go there. And so I remember when, uh, um, back in the eighties, I had a cousin, he dating this chick, bro. I hadn't been to Chicago since 1970. It's 1989. Bro, he got me in Cabrini Green.

I'm like, bro, I had never been there. I know what it is. I'm like, bro, what the hell? Bro, hey, I understand, you know, you got a chick over here. You want to see her. But why she couldn't come to where we are? Or, you know, you pray for a cab or something to come pick her up.

Bro, you got me over here? I don't know nobody over here. But that's what I've learned is that, hey, they know I'm out of place. Hell. But I give everybody respect and that's what you have to do when you go there, Gil. A lot of times people make the mistake they think

because of who they are and what they have. Man, some of them ninjas don't give a damn about that. Oh, no, they don't. That's why I walk away. You walking in, I put my pockets inside out. I show zero doubt my number. I got nothing on me. Not a dollar in sight.

Oh, but when I was in college, Gil, I was on the west side. I'm on 37th and Bull. I a dollar in sight. When I was in college, Gil, I was on the west side. I'm on 37th of Bull. I'm all over there. I'm cool. Hey, but I know how to conduct myself. It ain't all that. Hey, man, I'm there. Uh-uh. Nah, nah. But that's the way you have to conduct

yourself, Gil. You in their environment. You coming out there fake you better than. yourself, Gil. You in their environment. You coming out there and think you better than. Nah, bro. Hey, they chop you down. And you understand that. Get them their respect. I don't care what he does or who he is.

Hey, I go to the barbershop. It's on the other side of town. Hey, when I was in Denver, the barbershop was on. I give people their respect, man. That's how you got to conduct it. I can't feel scared. If I feel scared, I'm not going. I ain't scared. You just

give people their respect, Gil. That's all you got. I promise. I won't even go to the game if I feel scared. If I go to... Listen, you think I'm going to go to the Laker Detroit game with Stewart? I'm good. That's the one that he ran up on the dude from Phoenix, right?

You see what he did to the boy in Phoenix? No, that's another NBA player, let alone me. You crazy as hell. That's one game I want me to go just in case I park it here in the parking lot. Hey, Gil, you know, look, go ahead and say, look here, man.

Hey, I ain't mean it like that, bro. Let's go ahead and squash this, bro. Dap that thing up and... I didn't mean it like that. He just can't read. And now he can't argue with me. He can't read. I mean, you really gonna try to come after me

because I said that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, you should have said that. Hey, Dr. Frank, you know, Bellamy said, hey, Uncle Gil, your eyes were on high alert in the streets and clean. They were battling back and forth

and you were like, you were watching a tennis match. You had the paranoia too. Just joking. Love you. Nah, I was cool because once they told me who he was

and what, I was good. Hey, I know wasn't nobody going to run up on us. His name is Jungle. that's what they call it he yeah yeah it sounds rough

it sounds rough it sounds rough as soon as he said hey my name is Jungle and I'm out I'm out of here. Nah, nah. I'm glad we had him because that, I mean, you know, he carried that level of respect.

I mean, you go to certain blocks, you need to have somebody that carries that level of respect. So they're like, oh, nah, he good. Oh, man, that's sharp. He good, man. I'm good. Once they tell you you good, you good. But you have to, hey, a when you in other people's

house how do you act you don't put your feet up on stuff you don't you act accordingly you you in somebody else's phone you act accordingly makes sense hey good good early morning Shane Gail Gail from east side of

Detroit but it was a neighborhood I dare not go on the west side of Detroit but it was a neighborhood I dared not go on the west side of Detroit I'm like I'm like I'm like weird I kept that thing on me I mean hey most most people most people do that's the one thing about the hood

everybody got that thing yeah where I go where I go get my where I go get my haircut at in Atlanta, I think Vernon Forrest, the one that got shot, dude tried to jack him. He chased the guy. Dude opened up on him. But my barber, there was a store across the street that had T-shirts and stuff like that. And somebody robbed a joint.

And so they saw it and my barber was chasing them. Dude turned around and said, bro, this ain't your stuff. You right, man. You right. Hey, you right. Hey, I ain't chasing nothing.

I ain't chasing nothing. That ain't mine. That ain't mine. I don't know why mine you just running behind somebody and that's not your stuff where they do that at that's the same thing when I used to steal when I was little

right you're stealing out of the store and they trying to check this ain't yours you just work there I'm giving up everything I'm not fighting for nothing. As a matter of fact, I might take him to the safe in the back. How soon can I get you up out of...

Man, get out of the car. Hey, look here, bro. Hey, as a matter of fact, I only got a half a tank. So I'm going to make sure you get your food full or something. Hey, I got $100 for you. Get as far away from me as you possibly can. I ain $100 for you. Get as far away from me

as you possibly can. I ain't fighting for nothing. And I already... Some of the people in this chat right now, look, you work at Ralph's or any place again. Just, hey, it ain't your stuff.

You still get a check no matter what. Exactly. Let these people get in and get out. They got shit to do too. This they job. Ste got shit to do too. This ain't job. Stealing from your...

Hey, dude, hey. Like I said, dude ran up on me. Had the payphone. Dude said, you know what it is. I said, my man, I ain't got nothing on me. Everything I got is in my car, in the side. Man said, Sean. I said, yeah, man.

He said, man, you know better than the payphone on the west side. You was going to payphone? I was going to better than a payphone on the west side. You was going to pay phones? I was going to pay phones. That was in the 90s. You know what I'm saying? I didn't have no cell... My brother made me cut my cell phone off, Gil. Man, you know, you didn't have no cell phone. But back then, cell phone, my cell phone was roaming

because I had a 303 area code. So now we're talking about $3, $4 a minute. That was before the after seven was free and the weekends were free and stuff like that. Then, man, them things were hot. Bro, I said, hey, man, turn that thing off. Damn.

So now, you know, that was before GPS. So I was like, okay. She said, well, I live over here. I'm on such and such, such and such. I said, okay. Hey, man, I'm a Mr. Allen. I'm like, damn. Allen got lost.

Man, I said, said hey matter of fact pull up on 37th and Bull posture I got I used to go over there all the time get in my car watch sometimes I just go over there

and just chew the fat so I was like man you know I pay for them right here I throw them a thing dude run up on me hey you know what it is ain't a

what you mean what is it hey bro everything I got my wallet's in the side of my in the hey

man hey this generation don't know that hey bro everything I got my wallet's in the side of my in the hey man hey this generation don't know that well you gotta pull up the Omniac nah I knew what it was

I ain't that hey I ain't I ain't that dumb I know enough he's saying you know what it is I know what it is

hey get it bro I ain't got nothing everything I was is hey get it bro I ain't got nothing everything is I was told I could have said I ain't got nothing what I'm supposed to say I ain't give you nothing punk I've never been in no situation I'm not even gonna lie to you hey

but here's the thing though Gil I mean look somebody look they see you pull up I've been fortunate you know I mind my business and like say, now people kind of recognize who I am. But I mean, I was wrong. Here it is, 10 o'clock, 10.30

at night. I got an SL. I jump out the payphone. The car door open. Hell, he could have just jumped in the car and had the wallet and everything. Because at that point in time, I had the wallet in the SL. Then, you know, had a little thing in the side, so I had my wallet down there. But I hadn't carried a wallet in my back pocket probably since high school.

I have a little money clip. You said you had the keys in the car? Yeah, the car was running. He probably had no driver's license, though. He probably didn't have a driver's license. Well, he probably was thinking and said, look, I had one of the nicest cars. From the time I was like a senior

in college, I had one of the nicest cars in Savannah. I had a Mercedes in college. Then I had, my brother bought me a Z when I was a sophomore in college. So I've always had nice cars, and for the most part, they kind of knew who I was, especially when I had the all-white with that peanut butter leather,

Mercedes 300E. You know, I'm all over the city then, you know? I'm all over the city. But that's how I get on the level. Look, obviously certain places you don't go, but I think the way you carry yourself,

you can't fake you better than them because you have. Like I said, in that area, your number one currency is respect. Give them theirs. For the most part, they'll give you yours. I know that if I ever, ever, ever end up in a situation of being in the hood. LeBron would never get a statue with the Lakers. He's not Kobe.

Kobe's not the only one that has a statue. But anyway, he won that Disney ring with the Lakers. They should have ring. The Lakers should have resigned.signed Monk. How's that LeBron's fault? Which one? Re-sign? Re-sign Monk. The Lakers could only pay him $6 million.

The Kings could give him two years at about $19 million. You do the math. Are you re-signing one year for $6 million or you going two years at almost $19 million? Tell me what you're going to do. They can afford them.

That's what happens. I don't know why people just think, oh, people make decisions all the time. They go to the highest bidder. But they expect Apple. Think about it. You got a job. Okay, there's Google and Apple.

Google want to pay you $150. Apple want to job. Okay, there's Google and Apple. Google want to pay you $150. Apple want to pay you $175, $190. Same hours. Probably go, you know what? Probably get more favorable hours. Which one you taking? People outside of the sports, always

most, not always, I don't want to say always, but for the most part, you're going to take the job that offers you the most money why do people expect athletes to always take less money because we're supposed to care about winning more than money

somehow yeah we'd like for you to take a pay cut so we can give Helen and HR damn Helen and HR y'all better take that money from Peter in accounting Shannon

ain't taking no pay cut yeah yeah uh John said with a sad team and scaring the playoff in his Braun with a sad team is scaring the playoff in his prime

Jordan with a sad team not getting over 500 but Jordan is a killer how's that what's your take Gil so what did you say he said

Braun with a sad team is scaring the playoffs in his prime Jordan with a sad team not getting over 500 but Jordan is a killer how's that with a sad team yeah he said over 500. But Jordan is a killer. How is that?

With a sad team? Yeah. He said with Jordan, he said Brown was a sad team, team that's not very good. He was scary in the playoffs in his prime. Jordan was a sad team, team not very good, not getting over 500. But Jordan is a killer. How is that? He said the comparison.

I mean, Jordan was a jordan was um jordan was like okay if you know baseball jordan was barry bonds a rod right he was for self and had to turn into a team guy, right? LeBron is a team guy, right? Who we want to turn into a self guy, right? And I think that's the problem. He is Derek Jeter. He's trying to do everything, right? He's the old kid. That's the type of person he is. He's trying to build with the people he had. Jordan is like, well, I don't like this guy. Give me a new one. I don't like this. Give me a new one. And then when he sees fit, like, okay, this is a good team,

then he will sacrifice. Right? You know, LeBron is sacrificing to try to make the guys he has around him. Yeah. You know, so it's just two different people. Right? He's more like, LeBron is more Magic Johnson. And that's where his brain is, right?

Kobe is Michael Jordan. He's the killer. Yes. He's the assassin. You know, those mindsets are a rarity in its own also. Right. It's harder to find, it's easier to find

LeBron type of minds, right? Guys who are team, right? We're going to build together versus someone who does not care about life itself. Right.

He don't care about your feelings. He don't care. Either you're going to come work and follow me or you just die. Right. Doing it up. It's harder to find pure assassins like that. Right. Right.

So you can't compare people to Michael Jordan and Kobe. Right. Because that's it. Right. Right. Michael Jordan and Kobe and Right? Because that's it, right? Michael Jordan and Kobe. And maybe Allen Iverson. Other than that, you don't find that brain. That brain is hard

to find. That's why Mamba mentality is it. When we say the closest thing to Jordan, you're not talking about the closest thing to Michael Jordan's skill level and how his talent was. You're talking about just closest thing to Michael Jordan's skill level and how his talent was. You're talking about just the mentality itself. The duplication of someone who can go out there, shoot 100 shots and look at you and say, yeah, I'm going to shoot 100 more.

I don't care what you think. Don't care about your feelings. Don't care if you cry. My job is to do this, neutralize the opponent. And what i'm gonna do like it or not oh great king uncle gail team team should show dennis robin rebounding footage to entice to improve rebounding what do y'all think well dennis robin had to rebound or he wasn't gonna be in the league i mean the guy the guy scored zero points and have 25 rebounds. I mean, Dennis Rodman didn't probably average. What do you think he averages average point-wise? Six, eight points a game?

Five, something. I mean, like his job. But that's what I said about Darvin Hamm. Sometimes you got to give a guy a job and say, do this job and do it well so you can stay on the floor. And that was Dennis Rodman. Right? Going, rebound. That's all I need you for. If you

get two points, congratulations, but I need 20 rebounds out of you. Woe said, who wins? A starting five, six, seven and under, or a starting five, six, eight and over? It all depends who the six, seven guys are and or starting five, six, eight and over. It all depends who the six, seven guys are

and who the six, eight guys are. Yes. Are we talking about LeBron, KD, either? Yeah. Yeah. I got a question for y'all. Yes. Why is the 40-yard dash

running straight so important in football if you never do that in a game you don't because the only time there there's only one route that you try get up a full speed and that's a goal ball and they only they only run what maybe one two of those a game um i don't understand it either because most of the the stuff is like give me the first 10 give me the short shuttle but a lot a lot of the testing gill is that like when we watch when i watch a tape when i watch a guy and then i go see him to the combine i want the combine to offer confirmation for what i saw on tape if a guy looks looks explosive, I want to see him jump high. I want to see him jump far.

If a guy looks quick, I'm looking at his short shuttle. I'm looking at his first 10. Because all I'm doing with the combine should confirm what you see on tape. Because the first and foremost, 90%. Obviously, I got to do my homework on you, especially if I'm going to take you

in the first couple of rounds. I got to do my homework on you especially if I'm going to take you in the first couple of rounds I got to do my homework I need to know okay what type of guy is this guy how much time does he spend out is he study is he a good teammate you know blah blah blah but combine

should offer confirmation for what you saw on tape and a lot of times where guys make mistakes is that they don't take the tape. They take the combine. You see, Tom Brady did what he did in college, but they saw him run that ugly 40, and they saw the stuff that he did.

They said, well, he a six-round pick. What did the tape show you? He did that at Michigan. When he got in the game, he did that. A lot of it was coming from behind. He did that at michigan when he got in the game he did that some of it was come a lot of us come from behind he did that okay we don't like we don't want to believe what our eyes what our eyes tell us and i talked to odds who i think is one of the great gms of this time you know he drafted ray lewis jonathan ogden ed Reed Suggs Lamar Jackson five guys right there going to the Hall of Fame uh Marshall Yandy uh offensive guard he's probably gonna end up in

the Hall of Fame but I'm like Ozzy why I mean how are you able to hit on these guys he said boy I believe what my eyes tell me when I cut that tape on he said Terrell Suggs with the Arizona State. He said Suggs ran like a 4-8 4-9 on a track with tights and track spikes. He said but somebody sacked that quarterback

22 times this season. Somebody did that. Unless he had somebody fill it in for him he did that. Suggs could be it in for him, he did that. Suggs could be in the corner. Suggs get off. So he valued what he had saw on tape. Look, like I said, you want the combine to offer you confirmation,

but you don't play in shorts. You don't play in T-shirts. You play in pads. You don't play in t-shirts. You play in pads. You play in cleats. And you play against another man because we play the only sport, Gil. You're trying to move another man against his will. Yeah.

Gil, go in the house now. Go in the house, Gil. Now, make me. That's what we're trying to do. A man will put his hand in the dirt and says i'm going there no hell you're not not through me you're not a guy lines up outside i gotta get from point eight not against me you're not so that's the thing where people i think guys make a lot of mistakes talent evaluators because they're based so much on the combine and they disregard what they saw on tape.

Man, if a guy plays slow, I'm like, hold on. Guy ran 4-2, but he plays like he's running 4-6. I need to know why, bro. Why you just ran that time, but this guy is running 4-6 covering you. Something ain't adding up. Yeah, see, that's what I was looking at. I was like, why are they so excited that he has the fastest time?

How does that translate to him in the game? So he was, like I said, so stupid. No, because here's the thing. There have been very few fast guys that can play fast. Because to be able to control that speed. You see, if you go 100 miles an hour, it's going to take you longer to stop than something traveling at 50 miles an hour. Tyreek Hill is unique because Tyreek is explosive, but he can suddenly stop.

That's what makes him so dangerous because he's not just a gadget guy. He's just not a nine guy a goalball guy he can run a route tree he run smoke he run out he run comeback he can dig run an end cut run a slant he can do all that now when he gets that ball in his hand now you say man whoo i'm glad we got him because he read that 42940 yeah he's one of the few guys that I've seen that has track speed with a football body. Most of the football guys, I mean, most of the track guys, they have a track body.

Like Sam, I was in the league with Sam Grady, who won the silver medal in the 84 Olympics. He's on the relay team. Willie Gall, James Jett, they're thin-framed guys. You look at Tyreek, he's compact. He's muscular. He's a football player that actually have track speed. Most track guys, they're not built like that.

Okay, okay. So I wasn't that competitive. No, no, no, no. 4KT said, oh, rank these in order in which you love. You need to put loved, E-D, not love to eat. I would go squirrel one, raccoon two, rabbit three, turtle four. As pets? No, to eat.

Hell no. I would take a raccoon right now yeah I didn't hear a dish on there oh yeah I can get a rabbit I don't mind a rabbit. A little turtle, you know. Throw a little pellets in there.

You said to eat. Wait, say those again. He wanted me to rank the order in which I would love to eat first. Raccoon, squirrel, rabbit, turtle. I told him I would go squirrel one. I would go raccoon two, rabbit three, turtle four. Okay, I'm going to go

chicken one, turkey two, pig three, fish four. That's me. I've never even seen a store that would serve any of those folks that you just named.

No, you ain't going to. Hey, we ain't going to. Aw, man, you ain't never had no fried squirrel? Squirrel and rice? No. I seen a rat the other day grab one of those from under, like in New York, he grabbed a rat. It was another rat that grabbed one under the trash can. Oh, he was dead?

Yeah, one of them was dead, wasn't he? Huh? Was it dead? It was dead. Yeah. Yeah, rats, rats, rats nasty. They terrible. You said, hmm. Okay, look, I know you lived in the woods for most of your life, but you don't supposed to eat the shit that's out there.

Oh, yeah, you do. I mean, hey, see, there wasn't no chicken. I mean, look, we ate chicken but the only time we ever got chicken until i got to college uh uh or the only time we got fried chicken at home is on sunday every sunday we ate fried chicken as long as i can remember you know my mom said that's what they ate when they were growing up they had fried chicken but we never got chicken in in pieces my grandma would buy the whole chicken, two whole chicken, cut it up. She would fry

or my sister, my aunt would fry the chicken. That's how we did it. We ate everything. We ate the necks. We ate the backs. You know, you ate every part of the chicken except the last part and the first part that got over the fence. The beak and the butt. That's the only thing. But sometimes you ate the butt because that's that little fatty part.

You ever had the butt of the chicken? You ever had that? Nah. Just chicken wings, chicken desserts. You ain't getting all those good pieces. You out your damn mind. You think you about to get all the good pieces? I was a single child. All the pieces I wanted.

Okay. Nah, we got like, my grandfather got got he got obviously he go get the breast um a short thigh something like that you can get a short thigh

and a back you can get a drumstick and a wing the bone yeah the bone you would gladly eat it

but you weren't as a kid yeah that's it beat on that you got the neck too you ain't never had no turkey I mean you weren't. As a kid, yeah, there'd be no net. You got the net, too. I mean, you ain't never had no chicken. Man. I don't know what to do. You eat fish with the head on it, too, don't you?

No, no, no, no, no. I need the head off. But I don't eat fish. No, the fish need to be filleted. I can't eat no fish with the bone in it. Man, I got choked one time. Man, I ate damn near a whole loaf of bread trying to get that bone out of my throat. I said, God, if you get this bone out of my throat, I promise you I ain't put no damn more fish in my mouth, especially if he ain't been deboned.

Well, okay, so you ate that on Sunday. What did you eat Monday through Saturday, though? Squirrel, rabbit. We ate, like,othered fried chicken see like whatever you didn't eat on sunday my grandma had some fly water then it was gonna be smothered fried so you're gonna eat all that till it was gone it wasn't gonna like you go my grandma cooked some meat and then you didn't eat all that then she cooked some more meat no hell no you ate everything And once that was gone, they cooked something else. So, you know, rice, peas,

most of the time, I mean, I ain't really like, I ain't like vegetables. So, me and my brother eating cereal, she's like, okay, y'all know y'all better not eat up all that cereal before Saturday. Y'all ain't gonna have nothing to eat. So... Wait, but is it legal to, wait, hold on. Is it

legal to eat rabbit and stuff like this eat it we we you eat you eat quail you eat dove dove dove the bird yeah oh nah yeah nah i can see why you're not married, huh? Gil, I don't... Gil, now, I don't eat it now. Oh, okay. Ain't no woman cooking that shit for you. No, no, no, no. I wouldn't let nobody... Huh?

Yeah, I eat quail. Ash brought me some quail from home. I eat quail. Yeah, quail right now. Fried quail. That's the... Like, I would eat quail. Quail eggs?

No, I eat quail, the bird. Fried. I would eat quail eggs. No, I eat quail, the bird, fried. Hey, like a lot of times, like when I lived in Savannah, probably like once a month, I went to this place called Elizabeth's.

Man, they had the best quail and grits. I still rock with it right now. The only meat I eat inside of chicken is duck. That was good. Nah, we had... You don't eat duck? Yeah, I've eaten duck. Dark meat, but I eat, yeah. I eat duck, chicken, quail,

dove, squirrel, turtle, raccoon. Obviously, you eat everything on the pig. There ain't nothing that you don't eat on the pig. The only thing you don't eat on the pig is a squeal. You eat the tail. Yo, you eat the head.

You had the head, the ears. You ain't never had no pig ear sandwich? Who? Pig ear sandwich. Pig ear? Yeah. The ears. Pig got ears. You kill the hog. You cut the ears off, you eat. Yeah, and stew them. And have a pigger sandwich with mustard.

Just bacon. No, hell no. Only pig I know. You ain't have no pigtails? Maybe we put pigtails in greens. Hey, I know people in the chat know about pigtails. I had the pickle eggs. Oh, the devil eggs?

No, the pickle. It's pickle, right? It's like pink. Oh, you talking about pig feet? No, hell no. They had another jar next to the... Like growing up, they had the one that had the hoof in it. Oh, with the vinegar. So you had the egg with the vinegar in them. Yeah.

Soak it in vinegar. Yeah. Yeah. The most exotic I got. No, but you could eat everything on the pig. Coconut vinegar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The most exotic I got. No, but you can eat everything on the pig. You eat, you know, you eat, you make hog head cheese.

You make, you know, obviously you eat the snout. Yeah. Cow tongue. You ain't never had no cow tongue? No. You eat no oxtail? No. You know Oxtail? No. No.

This man here. What? Where do you find that? You can find Oxtail in the grocery store. No. Man, they used to have this place called Buckhorn. What's it? Ikehorn?

But they used to have, you name a meat, they had it. Like they had bear, they'd have yak. Yeah, anything. Gator. You ever had any alligator? You know, you gotta...

You got no alligators in Cali. Yeah, I see. We ate mountain oysters. Who? Mountain oysters, which is the testicles of a cow or a hog. You know what's going to happen, huh?

I'm going to go... What I'm going to do is after this, I'm going to write down all the meats, and then I'm going to go to PETA, and I'm going to say, you might this, I'm going to write down all the meats, and then I'm going to go to PETA, and I'm going to say, you might need to check Shannon Sharp's house, man. They got all kinds of exotic shit. But no, they got a

farmer's market in Georgia on Buford. I think it's on Buford Highway. I think that's where it is. But they got the ducks hanging up. They got all kinds of stuff. You name them, they got rabbit. You name them, they got it. You mean this? Okay. Yeah, I've never... Yeah.

Yeah. I watched Rush Hour, so I seen, you know, like, meat hanging in the alley and stuff, but I ain't... I was the buy. I thought that was just for looks. Like, you know, you let your parents go hang it up here.

No. Hey, Chad, let me ask you this question. Is Brussels sprouts an appetizer? I had a meeting today, and this, I ain't going to call her name. But she ordered, she's like, they asked for appetizers. So, you know, got spinach dip. She said, let me get the Brussels sprouts. Brussels sprouts ain't no damn appetizer. I had a girl who ordered that for dinner that was just

what she wanted to eat see let me just some brussels sprouts so it was uh that's called gas to me oh yeah i don't mess with brussels sprouts i drew i drew i was it was like 2010 when i was in orlando um and i was going through my juice diets and I threw the Brussels sprouts in and that was the worst guys I've ever had. So I ain't never eaten Brussels sprouts since. See, that's me. Yeah. I stay away from stuff that might

cause, because I already know my stomach. Apples, like when I'm on the road, I don't eat no apples. I only eat apples at my house. Yeah, yeah. So it's just certain things that I, apples. Like, when I'm on the road, I don't eat no apples. I only eat apples at my house. Yeah, yeah. So it's just certain things that I, yeah. And I don't know why they keep putting them in my room.

Your man, they been ahead of me the whole day. I'm like, five or six. I'm like, bro, I'm not eating these. Because I'm about to get on this plane and go home. So, yeah. Yeah, 74%. So, I'm going to give her a call tomorrow and let her know that 74% said Brussels sprouts is not an appetizer.

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Got these right here. See if y'all know what these are. Oh, those are fly. Yeah, you know your boy keep that thing. Those are nice. What number is this? Oh, they made 7,000 pair of this six.

You can see it here. Those are fives, right? Yeah. 6,700. 6,739 out of 7,000 pair. I got them. 739 out of 7,000 pair. Hey, I got him. Oh,

hey, no, hey, no, my kick to a hater, man. All of a sudden,

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