Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Lions Dominate Broncos, Bengals Comeback Win Over Vikings, Colts Blowout Steelers

Episode Date: December 17, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Detroit Lions dominant win over the Denver Broncos, Jake Browning leading the Cincinnati Bengals in an overtime comeback win over the Minnesota Vikings, the Indianapolis Colts blowing out the Pittsburgh Steelers & much more! 06:30 - Lions vs Broncos 16:20 - Bengals vs Vikings 26:30 - Colts vs Steelers 37:20 - Kadarius Toney Didn’t Learn His Lesson 47:00 - Marriage/Relationships 58:15 - Loyalty To Teams You Played For 01:13:30 - Unwritten Locker Room Rules 01:18:30 - The Type Of Women Athletes Look For 01:31:00 - Where Does Justin Herbert Rank Amongst Top QBs? 02:07:20 - Eating Racoon And Booty 02:25:30 - Best Xmas Gifts They’ve Received 02:35:00 - 15 Questions To Ask On A First Date (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #Club #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Much, much deserved. Liberty City's fine and baby straight. I'm from Dade County. I grew up in the 40s. Man, I am who I am because of that community, man, where I come from. I left Liberty City without really living, without really leaving. So it was awesome, man, to be able to smell them flowers, man, for all the work I put in the philanthropy and all that I've given back to that community, man. That was really dope.

That was really dope of them. You might have left physically, but you never left. Oh, no. Mentally, emotionally. So congratulations on the award. Very much much deserved i want to shout out oh i want to shout out a couple of people that's been here for day one the moment we launched this uh site there are a couple of people that's been here and what they do oh joe when we when we send out the link that we're about to go live and say you know 10 minutes 15 minutes or 30 minutes they'll get in the chat and they'll start talking amongst themselves. So some of the day one,

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Shout out to Shelby Chipman and Dr. White. Okay. The game that just ended moments ago, the Lions dominated the Broncos 42-17. Jared Goff threw five touchdown passes. He was 24-34, 278, five touchdowns. The Lions are now 24 and can clinch a playoff spot with a Seattle loss on Monday.

They can clinch the division title for the first time with a win over the Vikings on Christmas Eve. So watching this game, what was one of your big takeaways from the game? I mean, one of the big takeaways from the game is the Lions look like the Lions that we're used to seeing throughout the entirety of the season. Obviously, they had a few games where we were like, what happened? What is going with Jared Goff? He was turning the ball over a lot.

And those turnovers cost him, cost the team, some of those games, some of those points. They weren't able to overcome that. But today, Jared Goff looked like himself. Obviously, you said 24 for 34, for 278, five TDs. Amon St. Brown, boy, that boy nice, man. Yeah. That boy is the real deal, man. Yeah.

He was seven for 112 with a TD today. Jameer Gibbs. Man, listen. I'm not saying he's Chris Johnson, but there are only so many backs in the NFL that can hit their head off the goal post from anywhere on the field, and he's one of them. And I can't wait to see him break one just so I can see him get out there and scat one time just one time he played well today goddamn sam laporta he was very efficient as well five oh he's he legit he might be he might be he and kiddo might be the pro bowl uh a representative for tight ends in the nfc he's really really good

okay okay so you're right because he's Because he has great numbers, and they're winning. Yeah. Yeah. But they just look good, man. They look good all the way around, especially defensively. But I wanted to focus more on the offense because the offense has sputtered a little bit, especially with golf and the turnovers. But the offense looked good today.

Very, very efficient. They look very, very good. Everybody got involved. You mentioned Laporte to the tight end. You mentioned Armand St wide receiver jameson williams had a big game josh reynolds making plays you mentioned david montgomery he starts the game but jameer gill comes in spells him and like he's one of the few backs and i get what you're saying ocho he looks like he's running fast a lot of guys don't look like they're moving. No, he looks like he's fast. He looked like he's trying to get someplace in a hurry, but they were really good once they got

their rhythm. Because if you remember, Ocho, the first, if I'm not mistaken, the first three drives, they punted the football. But then all of a sudden they get their rhythm and they go touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, punt, touchdown again. And so it just shows you the explosiveness that they have. I thought the broncos were moving the ball fairly well and then one turnover changed the whole complexion of the ball yeah the whole complexion trying to throw the screen right well it was a screen right well it was sometimes ocho you know what i and i get it you know trying to get the ball away sometimes you just eat it sometimes you just eat it say you know what that's a 10 yard loss let me come back and try to get it on second down Sometimes you just eat it. Sometimes you just eat it. Say, you know what? That's a 10 yard loss.

Let me come back and try to get it on second down. Let me try to recoup some of that on third down. But the thing that you don't want to do is turn the football over. And even though the Broncos defense didn't give up points, it's the fact that it took a lot out of your sale offense. And they really can never get back on track. And then we saw, I saw they scored a touchdown and they call offsides.

And I still didn't see who the offside was on. But I guess it is saying one of the offensive linemen, get back on track and then we saw i saw they scored a touchdown and they call offsides and i still didn't see who the offside was on yeah but i guess it is saying one of the offensive linemen helmet was over the ball but i i couldn't see it but maybe you saw something that i didn't see maybe somebody in the chat saw something that i didn't see the call the calls are getting a little bit ridiculous a little bit ridiculous now and now obviously because of what happened what happened obviously because what happened with cadera's tony now they're just going to be calling everything going to be nitpicking and calling every little thing so now everything has to be perfect when it comes to alignment because you know what happened ocho you know what happened andy reed

center every i do what they do is that they gather all because they get all the footage from every game and it's like this guy's offside look at that defensive line they sent into the league office they fit it into the league and then the league the league office tell all the referees now you got now you're ruining for every goddamn body that's it that's it you know hey you know how somebody do something and they tell man why you told you ruined it for everybody bro you got caught you just go ahead and bite that bullet right don't you worry about everybody else not everybody got to be on yeah everybody got to stop um but they were they uh uh quinn maneras uh they said he was offside said his helmet was uh over where the uh center had maybe he got maybe he got a big head what if his head big and he

can't really he really can't help or control him having being off sides but here's my thing to ocho i don't know what because I saw you saw that play and then you see Sean Payton light into Russell Wilson I don't know how you expect Russell to see that didn't tell him hey man you need to back up you think that's what it was for though I you know I don't know honestly I don't know you know it's funny you know it's funny is I like that I like the coach getting into his quarterback when something isn't going right. I think it's a cardinal sin or rule number one.

You never chastise your quarterback. You never chastise your quarterback in front of everybody. You always do it behind closed doors. You whisper it or you put it aside. And you definitely don't do it on national television.

Yeah, you definitely don't do it on national television. But the fact, I think that the relationship in order for them, even though they lost today, for that relationship and that maturation process that sean payton and russell wilson have i think for it to get where they wanted to go

things like that you need to be able to be able to take that because he expects greatness out of you in order for the broncos and that team to get where they need to get to whatever mistakes or whatever he was chastised and russell wasn't for you can't make those mistakes you can't whatever it might be but i don't know if he made a mistake because if you remember ocho it was the uh the touchdown and they called it offsides right so i'm just trying to figure out what how russ was at fault russ was great on that drive yeah it must have been something we didn't see it had to be something to see because he hit the running back on a texas route he almost got in he did the hit the running back on a Texas route. He almost got in. He did the pitch to Javante Williams.

He almost got in. And then they ended up running the little belly play to the fullback. He did get in, but they threw the flag saying he's offside. So maybe it was something that transpired, Ocho, during the drive that we didn't see. But that's very strange to see the head coach light up the quarterback a russell wilson type now we've seen him jump all over uh mullins the guy that filled in for uh that uh the backup in minnesota we've seen him get on second you know second uh level

a third you know third string quarterback right but never never the startup especially of that ill right and so for, for that to happen, something had to seriously go wrong. But like I said, maybe we missed it. It couldn't have been on the three plays that I looked at in which the score, they run a little Texas route. The running back gets stopped at the one Javante Williams. I thought he got in, he gets stopped at the one, and then they run the belly to the fullback.

He ended up getting in, and then they called offside. So I really don't know what Sean Payton got so upset about. Yeah, but you know what else? When I think about it, the fact that, do you remember, when was the last time the Lions went to the playoffs? You remember what year it was?

Probably, no. The last time they won the division was 93. Okay. Okay, last time they won the division was 93. So it's been 30 years time they won the division was 93 okay okay so it's been 30 years they won the division i think i think they went to the playoffs in 2011 it might be 2011 2011 was it it must have been a wild card huh yeah they were yeah they ain't won the division now yeah well listen they i they they Well, listen, they're going to. Am I correct? Oh, I was. I mean, I just say, Ash, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You know, I just.

Yeah, they did. Yeah, I think they're going to win the division this year, too. Listen, the Lions remaining schedule. They have the Vikings. Christmas Eve. Christmas Eve. Then they got the Cowboys, if I'm not mistaken, right? Yes.

The Lions, the Lions are 4-0. This season, the Lions are 4-0 in primetime games. They haven't lost. Right. They haven't lost in primetime. Obviously, that's the best in the NFL. And I think they're going to win their first... Division title since 93? Yeah, since 93.

Actually, they went again. They went to the playoffs also in 2016, right? Yeah, I see it. Yeah, 2016. They lost in the wild card to the Seahawks. Seattle Seahawks. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

But I thought the Lions defense, A.G., Aaron Glenn, has them playing well. Hey, that's my boy. That's my boy. Yeah, they get after your quarterback. They pursue to the football. Nobody gives up.

If somebody runs down the field, you see defensive linemen chasing. That's what you like to see. The DBs are not giving up on plays. They can see no catches. They're fighting to the very end, trying to pull the ball out. So you like to see that.

The Broncos defense did not have one of their better playing games. But, you know, sometimes when you're on the road and the home team gets it rolling, it's hard to stop that avalanche. It's hard to stop it. Yeah, it is. It's hard to stop it. Yep, yep.

And one person can't stop it at all. Nah, nah. You need somebody to make a play. A big play. Yeah, you get a pick, a scooping score, something like that. Hit the quarterback, the ball comes out. You know who I really like, man? Who did?

From the Lions. That goddamn Brian Branch. Oh, yeah, from Alabama? Oh, man, man. Boy, that young fella all over the place, man. I like him. I like him a lot. Yeah.

Oh, they got those linebackers, Hustle. What's the one from Iowa? What's the one from Iowa? What's the one from Iowa that won the award? Yeah, yeah. He won the Buckus Award a couple years ago. Yeah. But both of those inside backers chase the football. They downhill guys.

Downhill guys and sideline to sideline. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Bengals, your Bengals, winning overtime to keep their playoff hopes alive. Who they? 27-24. Who they? 27-24. But I believe Minnesota head coach should be fired for throwing the ball.

But first of all, Ocho. Yes, sir. The only team that can run the tush push is who? Oh, the Eagles. And it's all based on the offensive line. I'm sure the head coach knew that. You knew that wasn't going to work. What are you doing? And you run it twice

and you got a running back that's already had run for 132 yards and you don't give him the ball once. And then you have your smallest offensive line, the smallest offensive player doing the pushing. Yeah. You ain't got a 300-pound offensive lineman.

You ain't got none of that. You got a 108, 170-pound little wide receiver pushing him in the back. Yeah, and you know, this is the funny thing. This is the funny thing about it. It's all about matchups, skill, leverage. What's the other word I'm looking for when it comes to that interior lineman?

The meat and potatoes of it. That offensive line with the Eagles and the offensive line for the goddamn Vikings The meat and potatoes of it. That offensive line with the Eagles and the offensive line for the goddamn Vikings is night and day. Yes. Night and day. The defensive line with the Bengals

matches up extremely well and much better than the offensive line of that of the Minnesota Vikings. That is why the tush-push didn't work. An inch? A yard? You know how much a yard is? Yeah.

That's this. You couldn't get that. You couldn't get that. You couldn't get that twice. What does that tell you? Right. Well, you got no push from the offensive line. You wasn't fit to get nothing. Not with B.J. Hill and D.J. Reed in there.

Right. Well, Reed had gotten hurt, so he wasn't in there. He got hurt early in the ballgame. I forgot the other guy's name. But they didn't get any push, Ojo. But here's my thing okay you ran that play on third down why not give it to your running back who'd been running all day chela had been running all up and down the page he'd been running up and up and down the field now but you

got to think about it now we on the goal line do you really want to run out on the goal line and then you know they bring in the house with the ball in his hand on the goal line or you want your backup quarterback with the ball on the goal line? Which one do you want? I know one thing. You know what would happen? You know what would happen? Obviously, I think if they would have handed the ball off, you would have blitzed, and you weren't going to get that.

How about you do? They would definitely bring it to the house. Guess what the Bengals did? The Bengals tried to tush-push, and on fourth down, who did they give the ball to? Joe Mixon. What did Joe Mixon do? He got blasted. He spun off the guy

and got the ball in the end zone. That's what you do. You give the ball to guys that are used to carrying the ball in go-to-go situation. Quarterbacks are not used to carrying the ball in go-to-go situation. And on the fourth down, Mullins, because the center got stymied, he ended up

fumbling the ball. And so now he lose control of the ball he gets no momentum he got pushed back further than what the original line of scrimmage was right right right right sometimes coaches ocho they overthink overthink yeah they overthink it when you listen there's a reason why you got chandler back there you was willing to move on from dalvin cook for a reason yeah you was willing to move on from dalvin cook for a reason yeah you was willing to move on from dalvin cook yeah so obviously uh uh plus also the other guy forget the other guy that was running chandler might be a rookie but there's an um what's the other guy named the running back he had a fumbling problem though so he might be he had a fumbling problem earlier this year right

hey them got me and my goddamn bangles man listen they found a way to win and the funny thing about it is towards the end of the game i was tweeting out what was going to happen in succession and i was right i was damn near i was damn near right madison number two right yeah yeah madison he's the running back yeah yeah so um i was tweeting out what was going to happen. For some reason, by the Florida game, I could just tell. I said, listen, he threw a pass to T. Higgins. I think it was in the fourth quarter.

I said, man, you got to keep that ball in bounds and just give T a chance because the DB was too short. T, 6'5", 6'4". They came back. What's up? What happened? You and I talked about this all the time. Yes, sir.

What don't you let a quarterback do? You don't let him roll out the pocket to his throwing hand. To his throwing hand, yeah. Okay, he rolled out the pocket and he hit T. Higgins. So what did he do in overtime? What did they let him do again? Escape to the right side and he hit Boyd on the run. So you deserve exactly what you got.

Because you know you don't let a quarterback, you keep him away from his throwing hand. If it's a right-handed quarterback, you force him left. If it's a left-handed quarterback, you force him right. That's on the D-end though. That's the D-end. Boy, he can't get collapsed like that and allow him to get outside. Yes. Yes.

That's what I'm saying. See, sometimes you get so caught up in trying to make a play. But if I can't make a play doing my responsibility, because now when they cut the tape on, they're going to say what? You're going to be looking at Elcho if you're a defensive player. Like, bro, you got contained. You can't let him outside.

You got to keep him inside. So now you let the guy escape to his dominant hand twice. Once he makes an outstanding play. T. Higgins makes an outstanding man crazy the ball crazy in the process of going down he throws his hand back and he gets the ball over the power that's great listen i do i do the rating for madden i need i'm gonna go in there and change t higgins awareness to 99 because his awareness after making that catch he can't even see the goal line. No. This is the way to just to put the ball, just to reach out,

knowing exactly where he is. Man, that was dope. Man, I'm excited for my Bengals. I went out on a limb and said, you know what? Damn, we out. We out. You say, no, we not out the playoffs. Okay.

Our quarterback, Joe Burrows hurt. Jake Browning is the first quarterback, first quarterback to win his first three of his first three or four. When three of us first since Boomer size in 1984, we go into the playoffs.

And I said, I said, I said it on inside NFL. We're going over. Oh, we're going to leap over. They got them. You got them. Yeah. They got their Browns and We're going to get that goddamn wild card. I'm telling you, we're going to surprise somebody in that first round of the playoffs. We got the Steelers left.

We got the Chiefs and we got the Browns. Two of those, we're going to win. Let me just be fair. Let me just say, let me be fair. The division games, I think we're going to win. Chiefs, I'm not sure what's going to happen, but either way, if we win two of those three, we're getting the win. Chiefs, I'm not sure what's going to happen, but either way, if we win two of those three, we're getting the wild card.

Yeah. Oh, yes. That'll get you in there. That'll get you in there. Salute Trey Henderson, baby. Yeah. He's playing well. They're 3-1 since Joe Burrow suffered a season-ending injury,

a wrist injury. Browning had mentioned that he was motivated because the Vikings cut him in 2021. And they said it bothered him in how they cut him because they said they're going to put him on the practice squad and go to the hotel. And he waited and he waited and waited. And his agent called him and said,

they're releasing you. They're not putting you on the practice squad. He said they did it that way. They handled it. Right. Okay, if you're going to put me on no practice squad, put me on no practice squad. Okay, I'm cool with that.

Right, right. But don't have me just sitting there waiting in the hotel and y'all do some dirty conniving stuff like y'all did. That's a nasty business. And the funny, you ain't see the clip. You ain't see the clip with Browning screaming, you shouldn't have cut me. You ain't see that? No, I didn't see it. Yeah, you shouldn't have cut me. You ain't see that?

I didn't see it. You got to read his lip. You shouldn't have cut me. Yeah, I'm glad. And he said the B word. Get your lip back. Get your lip back, boy. That's what I'm talking about. And then he was hit with a drug test after the game. Right after the game.

I think that's something new, Ocho, because I remember when... It never happened to you? No, not after the game. I think that's something new, Ocho, because I remember when... It never happened to you? No, not after the game. I got drug tested Monday morning. I got drug tested on Tuesday morning or Friday. And they keep saying it's random, but nobody got drug tested more in Denver than Shannon Sharp.

I said, well, how is it random? And I'm getting drug tested every year more than everybody else. Everybody else, right. Yeah, that's funny. I think I got once after a game, and I think it might have been the Chargers game. We played the Chargers. I forgot what year it was.

All I know it was Cromartie's rookie year when he was with the Chargers. I had 260 for three TDs or 260 for two. Drug test right after the game. Drug test right after the game. I'm like, there's no way that's random. I mean, what drug they think that's random. I mean,

what drug they think you taking? I mean, you need a higher dose if you taking steroid. No, I was taking GDM back then. GDM? Yeah, GDM. Don't you laughing?

I was taking GDM back then. Oh, Lord. And you don't know what GDM is? No, what is it, Ocho? Goddamn McDonald's. don't know what gdm is no what is it oh joe goddamn mcdonald's well they should they should have taken your cholesterol because that one was through the roof what's your cholesterol yeah but it was funny then in certain people you that there's no reason listen i'm every bit of why are you just a kicker or a punter? Yeah, I'm every bit of 180. And have you seen some of their bodies?

Yeah. If they take the wrong kind of steroids or they backfired or something. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Congratulations to the Bengals. Jake Brown had played an unbelievable ball game.

The Minnesota had an opportunity, Ocho, to put some separation early. Remember, mothers through two interceptions. Remember, Mullins threw two interceptions. One on the two-yard line and the other, he threw another one. He was going down and the D-line was laying on his back. He would never get an easier interception in his life. That ain't nothing but the football guys right there. That ain't nothing but the football guys. The Colts hammer the Steelers gardner menchu keeps their playoff hopes alive through for 215 yards three scores three different receivers andy trail

13 nothing midway through the second quarter but then could score 30 unanswered points the colts are now eight and six have won five or six to move into the bottom of the AFC South and to play off contention. They currently hold the number seven position in the AFC. Oh, no. Oh, Joe, they say they want that playoff. They want that last, that wild card. Who? The Colts. Minshew Magic.

Garner Minshew. Mad child, please listen. I like Minshew. I like Minshew. I mean, he's nice. Minshew magic. Garner Minshew. Mad child. Please listen. I like Minshew. I like Minshew. I mean, he's nice. He's cool. He has a nice supporting cast.

They did well today. But again, they did play the Steelers. Let's not get too... Whoa, whoa, whoa. They did play the Steelers. You tell me all the time. It don't matter who out there. I mean, I know it don't matter who out there, but look at the product. The Steelers done lost the last two, not the last three. You know, they ain't no threat, which mean, I know it don't matter who out there, but look at the product. The Steelers ain't lost the last two, not the last

three. You know, they ain't no threat, which is why I said it two, three weeks ago. The Bengals are going to come back and overlap. A threat to who? They're going to be a threat to the Bengals. And the Coast don't want to see us? The Coast don't have nothing. I'm saying the Steelers are going to be a threat

to you guys. No, they're not. No, they're not. No, they're not. Steelers are bad. Steelers threat to you guys. No, they're not. No, they're not. No, they're not. Not playing. The Steelers are bad. Steelers need the overhaul, Ocho. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down. Slow down. The Steelers are having one bad season.

I don't know about no overhaul already. Their coach, goddamn Tomlin, passed 17 years. He's been above 500 every single year. Every single year. I don't know about the overhaul. Ocho, that's not the standard. That's not the standard for the Steelers. I don't know about it. That's not the standard. That's not the standard for the Steelers. The Steelers are about championships.

We got to start rewarding. Oh, he above 500. That's not why they pay you eight, nine million dollars to be above 500. They pay you for championships and to get the team in the playoffs, make deep playoff run.

When was the last time the Steelers made a deep playoff run? Well, I mean, that's a minute. Wait a minute. This is a new team. This is the new regime you got new players yeah it doesn't just happen like that it don't just happen like that now you have to build you have to build your team we gotta hold we hope what we do here on this

podcast is we hold people accountable even the people that we like we gotta hold them accountable okay so you you think it's time for overhaul for real no i'm saying i did i mean you said the word overhaul so i mean you mean players players but mike mike's got to do a better job we got to stop well he's oh he's never had a losing season uh-huh uh-huh well it's been a long time that we thought the steelers were going to be a threat to win something too other than the division right right right right now i get it a lot of their you know being got old they held on the band being held on a lot longer than what he should have and when you got when you got guys like that and that's what the Steelers the Steelers are known for loyalty especially they're they're really really really good players if you go back and look at those 70 Steelers they didn't get cut

they just got old and they got hit and got rid of them and that's why they struggled you know late 80s until the 90s they had that one year in the 90s because lambert and ham and and and and joe mean joe and lc and uh greenwood and male blunt and all those guys got old at once right right well you got to the hall of fame if they get old at once oh joe yeah you're gonna be in bad shape trying to replace all that because the likelihood of you finding replacement players for those guys aren't very good. But the Steelers, Ocho, they need a quarterback. Okay, let's stop right there.

Go ahead. Let's stop right there. I say they don't need an overhaul. I'm a Kenny Pickett fan. I am a huge fan of Kenny Pickett. Ocho, he ain't it, Ocho. Okay, let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. Kenny Pickett is. I am a huge fan of Kenny Pickett. Ocho, he ain't here though, Ocho. Let me finish.

Kenny Pickett is a good quarterback. I don't think he hasn't matured to the point where Kenny Pickett is the answer to being a franchise quarterback and a quarterback that can get the Steelers back to prominent winning consistently, meaning

every time we have a season we're going to be in contention year in a year out when you had big ben you knew year in a year out you're going to be in goddamn contention to be playing in the playoffs and a chance at a lombardi trophy i don't think kenny pickett is that guy just yet obviously it's only year two year two or year three for uh kenny two it's only year two so he you know i i say give him another year and and see where he is and every team that all teams already that don't have a franchise quarterback are quarterback away are quarterback away from changing their franchise that's that's all it comes down to that's all it comes down to. That's all it comes down to. When you finally find that franchise quarterback, all you have to do

is build around him. Because they have the weapons. He had to support and cast. You got the running backs. You got the receivers, Deontay Johnson and got them. The attitude is terrible. The attitude is fierce for Ocho. Let's think about

why they're upset. Understand why you just mentioned it. You just said it out yourself. You just said it yourself. Ocho, we've all been in situations where the quarterback was less than ideal. Right, right. But that's frustrating.

I'm sure you got upset too when your quarterback was less than... Well, you got lucky. Well, shit, you had goddamn John Elway. I did. did i had you was fortunate everybody wasn't as fortunate as you was when they played i played 14 years i had john for nine of those years and also john missed half a season one year but i understood but oh here's the thing for me i always tried to put on a positive because I didn't want the younger guys to think that behavior was acceptable. Right, right, right. I always, I came to work.

I was professional at all times. I came to work on time. I went to meeting on time. I practiced hard. I did what I was supposed to because I wanted to show the younger guys, this is what it takes to be successful. You want to have a long career. You want to win. This is what you need to do. you want to have a long career you want to win this is what you need to do yeah i got frustrated yes i want the ball yes i believe i can help this

team out of this funk if i were to get the ball but i mean i just want to know what was pouting and throwing helmets and throwing water coolers what the hell was that going to help? That wasn't going to give me the ball. It wasn't going to get you the ball. But being able to... It's hard for receivers when you get frustrated. Yeah. Sometimes your emotions get the best of you. You know, I'm trying to think, have I ever gotten like that on the sideline?

I think maybe once. Yeah, maybe once. Maybe once. I was one that didn't want to show up any of my teammates. I didn't want to show up my coach. So I was able to control it because I knew the camera

was always on me. So I kind of kept it mellow even though I was frustrated on the inside and you could tell by my body language when things weren't going well or they were allowing

another team to dictate whether I can get the ball or not. And that shit really pissed me off. That shit really pissed me off. That grinded my goddamn testicles when they allowed another team to dictate whether I can get the ball or not. And that shit really pissed me off. That shit really pissed me up. That grinded my goddamn testicles when he allowed another team to dictate whether I can get off or not. That bothered me. We did not game plan and have meetings for hours and hours and hours of practice and watch hours and hours of film to come out here on a Sunday and tell them, well, if you play this defense, we can't get the ball at 85. That don't sit right with me.

That just don't sit right with me. Because if that's the case, then I ain't need to goddamn practice if you're going to let them do me like that. That's just my mindset and the way I thought, you know? But, I mean, that's neither here nor there. But I just, and the thing is, like, I'm a big believer in that showing up the quarterback also. Yeah.

Oh, never that. Never that. Never that. See, that was the relationship that i had with john i was never gonna show him up all i asked him look give me an opportunity to protect myself because i'm gonna do i'm gonna do my best to come down with it or it's gonna be incomplete yeah and i'm never i'm never i'm never gonna give up on a play and so he did he didn't like, if he missed you, you like, Oh, matter of fact, yo, I did that once to Carson, we were playing, we were playing the Steelers. He overshot a ball.

He overshot it. Or I, it was, it was out of reach and I was wide open and I took him a chin strap and I snapped that bitch soon as, soon as the, uh, soon as the ball, you know, it was, it was out of reach man I walked back walk back to the huddle that nigga Carson said man If you ever motherfucking do some shit like that again, I won't throw your ass the ball the rest of the game. That's what a La that was a you you like it you like it you like it you like it you put no I like yeah, he said you won't get no more. Listen, I ain't never seen Nash snap on me like that.

One time, I'll never forget, we was playing the Steelers. And the fact that when we're playing the Steelers, the balls and opportunities I'm going to get are already slim to none because when I come out the huddle, they are making the defensive play call based on where I line up. So I already know the two or three balls or four balls I might get, I got to make the most of them I might get I got to make the most Yeah, make the most of them and when he missed that one man

I snapped my motherfucking chest rock walking back to the huddle and man he came into my face mask and said many people ever motherfucking Showed me up like that again. You'll never catch a motherfucking ball again. I Ain't even say nothing because god damn it was a primetime game it was a primetime game yeah oh yeah i hope i hope when we edit i hope somebody could find that clip somebody gotta find that clip oh yeah you gotta be a good reference yeah john john didn't play that and so i always made sure i'm like hey bro don't do that don't do that that is't do that. That is what we do.

Right. So, yeah. I lost myself though that one time. I lost myself that one time. But see, that's the thing though, Ocho, is that I didn't show him up and when I dropped the pass or I did something.

Right. Hey, we talked about that on the sideline or we talked about that in the meeting room. He's like, hey, I need you a little deeper on this one right here. Right, right. I need you, you know, so forth and so on. We had a conversation because I know he didn't like me to show him up. But he knows that you, hey, all that yelling and cursing.

What about you talking to me like that? I don't know why you ain't talking to me like like man please so listen we had we had a great relationship we had a great understanding of the things that how we talk how we communicated with each other to get each other's point across so uh check this out oh joe cadarious tony need to let it go bro now andy reed andy reed was fined 100 000 for criticizing the officials patrick mahomes was fined 50 000 now you do know you know i know they got those penalties because they are was really they was yelling at the officials really talking to cadarious tony oh yeah so they they got docked 150 000 coming from him this is what he told reporters whether it was an inch two inches or whatever the uh whatever in front of the ball the referee got

a job to let me know he doesn't he did he didn't make no effort you watch the video he didn't make no effort to say anything no alignment so apparently he wanted he wanted to do that regardless ojo football 101 it's the two a's alignment and assignment you can't do a damn thing on the field if you don't know your alignment or your assignment yeah yeah that's your responsibility yeah instead of saying you know what again what did i tell you okay, see, he ain't got no personal accountability. I told you. See, I've been telling you that for the longest time. He just told you. Instead of saying, you know what, I was wrong.

I lined up offside. I've got to do a better job of making sure my alignment is correct because that falls on Kadarius, Tony. That falls on me. But I was wrong and I let my team down. You see what he did? He put the blame

on the official. Accountability is everything, Ocho. Yeah. So it tells me he still hasn't learned his lesson. Yeah.

I think he learned his lesson. I think he learned his lesson. I guarantee you that forget what he said, but I'm guaranteeing when he comes back for the next following game, wait, who they got?

Who they got next? The Chiefs? Who the Chiefs got next? Oh, they got the Patriots. Patriots. The Chiefs got the Patriots. I guarantee you don't line up offside this game.

I guarantee you don't line up offside the game after that. I guarantee you when they get to the goddamn playoffs, I bet you don't line up offside. So, in other words, are they going to make any more boneheaded plays?

No. I bet you don't. Let's put some... I bet $100. Okay, bet it. I bet $100 plays no i i i bet he don't let's put let's put let's put some i bet i'd bet a hundred dollars okay bet it i bet a hundred dollars because darius tony don't make no more mistakes bet a hundred bet and i bet another hundred he don't drop no balls i'm like i'm like chris brown run it all right let's see if he can run it run it run it say less but oh joe i know what you mean it was about to die down that happened a week ago so instead of look here my grandma said boy

the reporters asked him he just not savvy enough with the reporters to say they ignored he just answered probably with no ill intent just answering the question in general. Intent only matters to him. You know the difference between murder and manslaughter? It's intent. One, you intentionally meant to kill him. The other, you accidentally. But the victim

is just as dead. So intent only matters to the defendant, not the victim because he's just as dead. So whatever his intents were, it did not matter because that's what he said. Hey, you used to watch Matlock? No, I was a criminal justice major. Okay, I was going to say,

you sound like a goddamn lawyer now. You sound like a good, I like that. If that football thing didn't work out, that was how it was going to be. Okay, okay, okay. I like that. I like that. But that's the thing the ocho ocho you know what he's like that at some point in time remember you and i talked about it how some

people will blame everybody else but what's going on in their life oh it's the this with that it was the police and it was the government and it was my girlfriend it was my boyfriend it was my mom they're not helping me right okay so where's your culpability in any right right right you ain't so you ain't do nothing you know what the funny thing about it is is i think yeah that's not just a cadarious tony problem that's a problem with society and of course absolutely at time never wanted to take accountability most of the time it's leading to the female, the female species. You know, I think they have an issue with taking accountability. The finger is always pointing the opposite way and not actually seeing it at times.

You know, maybe I am the problem. And the same thing with us, with us fellas. But it's something that I think a lot of people, a lot of people struggle with and blaming others and not seeing them being the issue at any time yeah and for me ocho i've never been i've never been one that was too proud to say i was wrong to say i was too proud to say i was sorry right even as i've ascended through the the economic pyramid right even as i become more uh more known i'm not too big to say i'm sorry i'm not too big to say i'm wrong because if i was wrong i was wrong i'm wrong i have a question yes as long as you've been alive as long as you've been dating just in general in life how many times have you ever heard a woman but one take accountability for her actions

or said sorry be honest with me now if you have to think about it a little bit be honest me how many times you have had a had a woman say i'm sorry when she's messed up or actually take accountability for actions for her well it that'd be really hard to say because i would thank you thank you thank you you just use your use your approval point baby that's all but here's the thing the fact that you can't even that the fact that you can't even tell me right off the top of your head that that gives it that that what does that tell you oh joe i am 55 right i've dated some i've dated some women in my time and here's the thing oh joe sometimes I didn't give a damn what they told me

I was out they could have said I was wrong I'm sorry my bad whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa you don't get people you don't believe in second chances yes I absolutely do I absolutely do okay but Ocho but when you no longer want to be in a situation right it doesn't matter what they say okay it just and just and it's, I've been in that very situation where I've told someone I'm sorry and I apologize. Right.

But they say, it's too late. Oh. Okay. Yeah, it happens on Joe. Wait a minute. That's why.

That's so hard. I know, I'm going to let you finish. But when I, when I look at you as someone I look up to, not only football player, accolades and all that stuff,

but obviously a father, a businessman, entrepreneur, what you're doing with TV. Just, I'm trying to sit here and even fathom a woman sitting here telling you,

oh, Shannon, I don't want to be with you no more. That don't even sound right to me, honestly. No, Bojo. That don't even sound right. Well, maybe, maybe they didn't see

the motherfucking light. I don't mean to curse you, I apologize. Maybe they didn't see the light and where you were going in the fucking vision to say, oh, I'm up and leaving. They. I apologize. Maybe they didn't see the light and we were going in the fucking vision to say, oh, I'm up and leaving. They're leaving on. Nigga, who the fuck leaving on?

Not the one popping them goddamn diamonds. Well, it wasn't coming down, Ocho. It wasn't coming down. Oh, no way. Oh, no way, no how. But you know what, Ocho? You can't stay in the bed always. You got to come up out the bed. You might be in the bed. You know your boy't stay in the bed always. You got to come up out of the bed. Hey, you might be in the bed.

You know your boy might be in the bed 25, 35 minutes in a clip, but you don't see it. Right, right, right, right. You got breakfast. You got lunch. You sit on the couch. You talk and watch television. But I think the thing is, everybody, no matter how good looking a woman is, somebody has said, I don't want to be with you anymore.

No matter how popular a man is, no matter how much money he's made, somebody has said, you know, I want to move on. And so when people say, oh, she only with him because he got this or he only, look, it's just as easy to love a rich man as it is a poor man. So what you think they're supposed to do? Well, I don't want that rich man. I want the poor man to show you that I really love him.

Y'all sound foolish. People, do you understand how foolish you sound? Come on, man. To say a woman should go be with someone, if somebody wants to be with her that's making $10 million, $50 million, $100 million a year to prove that she loves this man. No, I'm going to go be with the person that makes $100,000. What? Come on, preacher.

Who? What scenario? on, preacher. Who? What scenario? Stop sounding dumb. Right. You sound dumb when you say that. It's just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as it is a poor man. Yes, sir. I have a question.

Yes. Everything you just said, is it safe to say regardless of who it is you date whether rich or poor that everyone relationship or whatever they have going on situationship

marriage do you think everything comes with an expiration date? Possibly. It all depends because Ocho it's work every day. Yeah.

Today's podcast is not the same as Thursday's podcast. And tonight's podcast won't be the same as tomorrow. And tomorrow won't be the same as Monday. And Monday won't be the same as Wednesday, Thursday, so forth and so on. So a lot of times when people think when they get married, people think the job is over. Well, I'm married now. No! This is what I tell guys when they

want to get to the NFL. I say, now your journey is not ended. Your journey is just started. You dreamed of being here. Now the journey starts. So when you get married, I've never been married, but I also, I've been in relationships and I know a lot of mistakes that I've made is that I got into the relationship and I stopped working. I didn't work nearly as hard in the relationship as I did to get the individual.

And I'm not foolish enough or I'm not naive enough to know that. I know that. Hold on. Let me write that down. Let me make sure. Wait a minute. Let me get my motherfucking pen and paper because I'm not going to stop working you got me fucked up i think yeah you gotta work you gotta work because rail the rail that you met is different than the rail right now right and

she's gonna be different tomorrow and so are you right so there's a continual there's a continuation that when you're in a relationship that you've got to continue to work in order for it to grow. I mean, let me ask you a question, Ocho. When you buy plants or you buy something, do you just water it one time or do you have to continuously water it? Or do you have to continuously tend to it?

You got to tend to it all the time. I mean, obviously, I see relationship is similar to the upkeep. You know, if you have a rose garden, if you have plants, you know. Yes. I hate using that analogy, but you see where I'm going with it. Yeah, but we're talking about upkeep. Yes. If you have a rose garden, if you have plants, you know. Yes. I hate using that analogy, but you see where I'm going with it.

Yeah, but you were talking about upkeep and the maintenance and the thing in order for it to grow. In order for it to grow. And the same thing, her and I have these talks all the time. And I always,

and I like to have the tough conversations. How are we going to last? How are we going to defeat the odds? You know, relationships and marriages, you see what the statistics are, right? Yeah. How are we going to outdo that? You know, relationships and marriages, you see what the statistics are, right? Yeah.

How are we going to outdo that? What's going to make us any different? How are we going to beat the odds? Also, are we going to evolve or are we going to grow apart? Are we going to grow together? Now, we have the craziest conversations. You have to be. Before we take that motherfucking walk,

because once you take that walk down the aisle, oh, baby, ain't no coming back. Yeah. No coming back. I need, I need, I need to dip all that bullshit out the motherfucking way now ahead of time. What's it,

what's it going to be like to live with you? What's it going to be like when you mad? I need to see you in all your seasons. I need to see you in all your seasons before I even walk down it out. Yeah. Well, the greatest trick to survival is adaptability. Oh yeah.

And the greatest trick for, to sustain anything is to being able to that. Yeah. Well, the greatest trick to survival is adaptability. Oh, yeah. And the greatest trick to sustain anything is to being able to adapt. Because if your person, you can't be so rigid in your thought process is that it's this way. And when she's going through her things,

you like suck it up. I mean, there are times that you got to give tough love and to make sure that, but you also got to be that supportive. And I haven't always been that. A lot of times, I was more concerned about me on that hey i need you to i need you to support me keep me propped up when she needed me at her when she needed me at my best right when

she needed me the most i wasn't there and also i'm i'm i'm i didn't know that at the time. It took me being out of that situation. And a lot of times because I spent a lot of time alone is that now I sit back and I have the luxury of hindsight, the magnificent sign of knowing today what I didn't know yesterday. and you try not to but when you've done something as long as i have it's hard to break that and so i've tried to be a better listener a better communicator because like i say oh children i tell this story all the time my therapist told me she said mr sharp you speak in mandarin she's speaking spanish and one of you guys got to learn the other's language or it's not going to work because you're communicating and you don't know what you don't know what the other is saying right right right her her her form of communication is affirmation tell her she looks good tell her she's fine i say but i tell her that but she wants me she wants me to be like a a pep rally like she was right right i mean from the time she get up like boom shots like

oh you look good oh Oh, yes. Unbelievable. Wow. Bam. You know what's funny? Now that you say that, women that say words of affirmation are their love language for that. But the fact that I think when women hear you look good, you this, you that, from the same person over and over and over and over and over it doesn't hit the same as here from someone it doesn't hit the same no matter no matter what you say it's crazy but back on on on the topic on the basis that we were talking about i think listening and compromising

and communicating are probably three of the most important things compromising definitely especially but let me ask you a question. Yeah. Are you listening to respond or are you listening to understand? I'm listening to understand. Because they're two different things. When it comes to a woman,

are you listening to understand? Yeah. Because we think differently. Oh, yeah, absolutely. We move differently, you know? Yeah. So, I try to put myself in her shoes when she's talking

to get a better understanding on where she's coming from. A lot of times, women base their facts on feelings. I feel feel this way so it's got to be true facts i mean feelings aren't facts facts aren't feelings right yeah and what i've had to learn and i've had to do you want this to work or do you want to be right what what what is it that you want ocho do you want it to work or do you want to be right? What, what, what is it that you want? Oh,

Joe, do you want it to work or do you want to be right? Because for the longest time I wanted to be right. I've always been this, this debater. I've always been this, this guy that, okay,

well, let me take this. What it is. Okay. But in the process of me being right, it's not helping us. Yeah. Yeah.

Now, because you got to look at it. It's us, not a I, not a me. It's a us. It's a we. And so now, but in that moment, I'm thinking about me. You're wrong. You're on your own. You're on the island.

You're wrong. And let me tell you, boom, boom, boom. I just laid out so elaborately. I'm feeling good i told her not look at your feet is she feeling she didn't be right right but in the process what i've done is i chipped away at the foundation of us and i she's like now i see it ain't no us it's a you versus me me yeah and so i've had and slowly but surely i've tried to get out of that mindset of a it's a we and not a me not the chip at the foundation the fabric that could hold us together so it's a trial and error i'm not perfect i'm never gonna be perfect i've never professed to be perfect uh i've made some mistakes. Go make some more.

Yeah. See, that's the part. That's the thing about it. I don't want to make them all mistakes. I've done the trial and error already. I've done the trial and error

for goddamn 20, 20, 25 years. So I've been through it enough. I've touched the stove enough to know the motherfucking stove is hot. The stove is hot. It's going to burn you when you do certain things. So I should be out of that stage by now. My grandma had a saying. fucking stove is hot the stove is hot it's gonna burn you when you do certain things so i should

i should be out of that stage by now yeah my grandma had my grandma had a saying my granddaddy had a saying he should tell my grandma all the time god damn it bessie flowers yeah do you want to be motherfucking happy or you want to be right pick one because you can't get both of them right no pick one because you can't get both of them you want to be happy you want to be right i tell real all the time every time every blue moon we might get into it listen i'm not gonna say and act like we don't have no motherfucking problem right but we are good we don't argue we are good i said baby listen man you want to be happy you want to be right let me know what you want to be because you can't be both and if you think you'd be both you're living in a fairy tale man the chair calling me unc winfrey

man y'all y'all stay on me man y'all be y'all be killing me man but you're right oh but but oh but but but it's right yeah i mean and that's the thing you want to be right or you you want to be right you want somebody to be happy happy. And sometimes it's better. You know what, Ocho? Sometimes it's better to be wrong and keep the peace. Sometimes I lose. Sometimes I lose on purpose. Oh.

Because, Ocho, you know how you play it? I know you don't have pets. But sometimes I'll be playing tug of war with my dog, and I'll let it win, and he'll get it. He'll go prancing off. He's like, yeah, I got it. You couldn't take it from me. Sometimes I let him win.

Oh, yeah, I got him on this one. No, you didn't. I let you win. But that's okay. You don't need to know that. You know what's funny though? You know what's funny? That's a little bit antagonizing too

because sometimes Rhea want to argue and she'll say something, she'll say something, she'll say something and be ready for me to bounce back and have a rebuttal. I'll be like, you know what? Baby, you right.

You right. Yeah, Rhea. You can't get Ocho. You can't get Ocho. Hey, boy, that make a matter. That make it even more matter. That's all you going to say? You ain't got nothing to say back? see when you young ocho as you start to get older see when i was young and i ain't take my 20 milligrams or don't fuck with me yeah i woke

up with i woke up with hell on my mind are you ready yeah i woke up with hell on my mind yeah look at looking for an argument listen when you're young you like Listen, when you're young, you like to argue. When you're young, you love to argue. But you look at Twitter every day, any topic it is, anything going on with any celebs or they break up or something happening or anything going on in the world, well, goddamn, oh, everybody ready.

They be going, fighting back and forth. Y'all don't even know these people. Y'all don't even know these people. Y'all just arguing back and forth about people that don't even know these people yeah yeah i don't even know you what'd i say if i can't bring if i can't bring my dog i'm not it ain't for me it ain't for me yeah hey you saw i retweeted earlier. You saw that big-ass Great Dane in the kitchen? I didn't see it.

Boy, the lady in that cooking, the dog looked bigger than the goddamn kitchen like a goddamn horse. Yeah, they get big. They get seven, seven and a half feet standing on their hind legs. Great Dane, Irish Wolfhound get like that. Irish Wolfhound.

Irish Wolfhound is the biggest. It's bigger than the Great Dane, Irish Wolfhound, get like that. Irish Wolfhound. Yeah. Irish Wolfhound is the biggest. It's bigger than the Great Dane. As far as height-wise. Height-wise, yeah, yeah, yeah. But as far as weight, you're talking about the English master that can get up to 300 pounds. But that ain't healthy, huh? No, no, no, no, no. 300 pounds ain't healthy, man.

No, no. No. But like my dog. I mean, my dog weighs like 170, but he athletic. He, I mean, he's athletic. He moved with it. Oh yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he good. I mean, he heard the doorbell ring. He go get on his place. He get on his place. He ready.

And he just, he just sit there. He just sit there and watch. Now he look now. He ain't going to stay on his place. He ready. And he just, he just sit there. He just sit there and watch. Now he look now he ain't going to stay on that spot. Long cup. When the cleaning people come, uh, Blanca and Vicky, you got home.

He loves Vicky. Yeah. He loves Vicky. That's the only time that I have to like really correct him because it's like, that's his best friend. He'd be all in the room. She all on the floor with him, rubbing it.

Right. Right. Right. Right. Feet up in the air. Yeah, baby. with him rubbing it right right right both feet up in the air yeah man he's just like yeah yeah yeah yeah i'll listen to you in a minute let her get five more minutes with me yeah uh let's get back on topic richard sherman five fires back at criticism for supporting both 49ers and seahawks sir sherm said i will support the teams i play

for you need to remember we brought the city that championship not vice versa so I will support the teams I play for. You need to remember, we brought the city that championship, not vice versa. So I will support both 49ers and Seahawks, acting like you gave me something, like I owe you something. You need to appreciate the team that brought you and stay in your lane. I get that, Ocho, because you know, look, I played with the Broncos for 12 years. Went to Baltimore for two. Won a championship. Went back to Denver for two. So, of my 14 years, I played for two teams. One team, two with the other.

One championship. So, if I cheer for the Ravens, man, what about your loyalty to the Broncos? I cheer for the Broncos. Well, you did know you played for the Ravens. And now, you know, my nephew, Travis Travis Kelsey man, how you do that? Bro, damn! I can't like nobody else but Bronco and Ravens players. Right, right, right.

Listen, my allegiance will always be obviously we know my allegiance is to the Bengals. I had a short stint with the Patriots in 2011, whatever year that was. 2011, you don't know the year that was? Yeah, I don't even, whatever year that was. But, I mean, that's... You don't know the year that was? Yeah, I don't even know what year it was, man.

You know, I don't care about the football once I stop playing. But my allegiance is going to the Bengals. And obviously, after the Bengals, it's the Dolphins. Obviously, I'm born from Miami, born and raised in Liberty City, Dade County, for all y'all in the chat. And it will always be that way. Oh, and it always has been. Before I was drafted to the Bengals, I was a Dolphins fan.

I was a little kid, a little shorty going to the games at the goddamn Orange Bowl watching Mark Cooper and Mark Clayton shoot goddamn damn marinas. Yeah, the Marks brothers, man, back in the days. And shit, when I got drafted, obviously, you know, that's where my Bengals come from. Yeah. And that's how it would be, no matter what anybody says. You know, I've never had any—nobody gave me any gripes about it because obviously common sense they understood i was from miami and i played yeah but but it's different because i spent 12 years i spent 12 years with one

and only two with the other and and i have like i said ozzy i still talk to ozzy um i still talk to a a couple of people at the ravens uh ke, Kevin Byrne, who's no longer a Chad still took Kevin Byrne's, uh, place, but I still talk to Kev. I talked to Chad. Chad wasn't even, wasn't with the team when I was there. I talked to a few people, but I just know, I mean, 12, when you spend 12 years and you know, you know, chip still there. And I don't know any of the athletic, the trainers now, but I, uh, the, uh, now, but the equipment guy, I still know them, the videographers, I still know them, but all the coaches turned over Ocho is under new ownership.

And it's a little different. Honestly, it is a little different now because a lot of the people that was there with Mr. Boland and some of the guys that was, you know, when Mike staff got left and then Kool came in and there was some turning, you know, going back, but it's different now. It is. It is. I'm not going to say they treat me different when I go back.

They still get, they still treat me great. The fans are still great to me. I haven't been back to a Ravens game, but for the most part, the Ravens fans, they haven't. Cause I've been working okay I work and see and people like well why you don't go to the games I said because it's hard for me to watch all the other games when I'm at a game okay I see what you mean because now I've got to I've got to talk about the Cowboys I've got to talk about the Eagles I've got to talk

about Kansas City I've got to talk about this oneboys. I've got to talk about the Eagles. I've got to talk about Kansas City. I've got to talk about this one. And it gets extremely hard when you're just watching that game. So a lot of times I find myself, I would be up in the suites, and I'm not enjoying the game at the field. I'm watching. They got the Cowboys on this one, and they got other team on that one. And I'm doing my job because I know come Monday,

I'm going to have to talk about it. And so that's why. You know, I got a question. With your extreme knowledge for the game, what do you think about doing play-by-play like Tony Romo? No? That never, because here's the thing, Ocho. You can't be as honest as you need

to be. Why? Because if you are, they won't do a production meeting with you. Serious? Nope. to be why because if you if you are they won't do a production meeting with you serious nope i see i see you going with it i see where you're going okay okay i got you i got you and so you gotta play the game a little bit huh yeah you do you gotta play the game and i don't i don't want to study tape that much anymore like i once did. And kudos to all the guys. I think Greg Olson does a phenomenal job. I haven't heard one word. I haven't heard Tony Romo. I haven't heard any of the guys.

Now, I couldn't tell you what they say or how they say it. Because for me, Ocho, I need to be able to speak from a place. This is my genuine thought. I'm not corrupted by what I heard somebody else say. Somebody else might have said it. Maybe great minds think alike, but this is my interpretation of what I saw. This is my interpretation of what I, what, what transpired. And it might be, you know, you might not agree with it. You might agree with it, but now I really never wanted to be play by play because I, but I've always wanted to be play by play because i but i've

always wanted to talk about more than football right i want to talk about basketball i want to talk about track and field i want to be able to talk about a george floyd i want to be able to talk about a colin kaepernick and kneeling i want to be talking about talk about some of these societal issues and when you play by play you're kind of boxed in right and for me with my knowledge it doesn't it doesn't need to be hardest in that capacity okay i see what you mean i like it by play, you're kind of boxed in. And for me, with my knowledge, it doesn't need to be hardest in that capacity. Okay, I see what you mean. I like it. Aaron Rodgers likely to be

medically cleared to play this upcoming week. No! Rodgers may be medically cleared next week to return playing in games, according to multiple reports. The Jets travel to the Dolphins this week and then host the Commanders on Christmas Eve, which would be Rodgers' targeted return date. The New York Jets are currently 5-8, sit third place in the AFC East.

It has a less than 1% chance of making the postseason. What do you think about that? What's the point? What are we proving? You were able to come back from an injury and heal extremely, extremely fast. The comeback being five and eight, even though you're sitting third in the AFC, we say they sit in third, right? Third in the AFC East.

Yeah. No. I mean, why even chance it though? Like, why? What do you have to prove? We know what you can do. Heal up, rest up, get ready for next year. Let Zach Wilson continue to run the show.

His whole thing is about, I want to show medical professions that I know more, I know better than them. That's why I take a chance. We talked about Marvin Harrison, you got them, Junior. Stay in another year. Why take the chance and risk injury?

Why set yourself back further and re-injure your Achilles? There are three places on the body you don't play with. You don't play with your knee. You don't play with your groin. You don't play with your Achilles. And let me add the hamstring

in there too. Well, it all depends if you're the quarterback. If you're the quarterback, your elbow and your shoulder, if you're a quarterback. That too. But man, listen, those are injuries you don't want to play with, man. Allow it to heal. I don't care what technology said.

I don't care what science said that they talk about. I don't care how good you feel walking and going up and down. When the bullets are flying in the middle of a game it's a it's a different ball game it's a different beast don't come back that don't come back there's a difference between there's a difference between game and practice because practices are what scripted yeah the game isn't scripted oh no so you can you can call plays you can script practice where they don't get pressure around and you don't have to do anything suddenly. Now, all of a sudden, you get into the game.

Ain't no scripts. No, you got to move faster. You got to react. Listen, is that area ready for that type of tension? The suddenness in which you're going to have to react. Bingo, the suddenness. I thought you took the... I was looking for the goddamn word.

You brought it right up. Man, don't do that. Don't do that to your body, man. Rest. Wait for next year. Training camp. Have the whole nine yards. Boom, you'll be fine.

You get out there, you're going to hurt yourself. The Rattlers are the national champions family how with 30 to 26 to claim the the program's first celebration bowl and its first and black college football national championship the rattler scored three fourth quarter touchdowns to overtake the bison and win 30 to 26 yeah florida a and m&M, the greatest HBCU of all time. I want to send a congratulations to everybody,

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album model. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. The greatest, not just any album model, the greatest album model, the highest of the seven Hills. Were you in the school that again?

Savannah state. Y'all know Savannah state. Don't'all in Savannah State don't want to see don't want to see FAMU. Y'all want no smoke and nothing. Y'all want no smoke with us. On the field, on the basketball court, tennis court, the band. I ain't even gonna mention the band. Y'all don't want none of that.

Hey, you saw when I went back to Savannah State for first take. You see how we had that thing croaked. Hey, boy. That was nice, boy. We had that thing croaked up and down. Hey, when you came take hey boy hey boy that was nice hey when you came out but that thing was live i ain't gonna lie to you that's how we do that to you hey but there's only one let's do it listen but there's only one though there's only one what's the battle state that's the greatest the greatest college by the sea, the college by the sea, bro,

the highest of the seven hills. Cause we going to strike. We going to strike and we going to strike again. Uh, Oh, Joe, there's a, uh,

I read a survey that says the four most important pillars in a relationship, religion, money, in-laws, parenting, and money. If you had to rank them oh where would how would you rank them religion in-laws parenting and money i'm going money first i agree i'm going i'm going

i'm going money first i don't care what nobody's saying don't don't get on here preaching that that old righteous bullshit money come first money first I think in order for people to be compatible, I'm not sure two religions can be together. Maybe you can, depending on how much you love each other. I think you're- You gotta go to church. You up in the church, never in my life. Okay. Okay with me. Yeah. I mean, some people are very serious when it comes to their religious beliefs and they want their partner to think and feel and have that same vision as they do when it comes to their religious beliefs. They want their partner to think and feel and have that same vision as they do when it comes to their religious beliefs.

So I think I would put religion second. Third, I would be parenting. What was number four? What was number four? In-laws. Yeah. Third would be parenting. In-laws, who cares about what the fuck they think?

Yeah, keep them up. Oh, my bad. Keep them mofos out your business. fuck they think? Yeah, keep them up. Oh, my bad. Keep them mofos out your business. Yeah, okay, okay, okay. They always in somebody's business. No disrespect. No disrespect. Nah, I hate people that allow their in-laws or family

to dictate whether they should be with somebody. If that individual makes you happy, I don't care what NAMM family member think about me. Man, fuck y'all. Y'all ain't got to deal with them. That's me. I don't care what NAMM family member think about me. Man, fuck y'all. Y'all ain't got to deal with them. That's me. I got to deal with that. But parenting is very important.

Very, very important. Hell shit. As a parent myself, I'm still a goddamn work in progress as a father. For me, Ocho, I would probably say money parenting. It all depends on the type of religion because some religions are more strenuous than others. And you see a lot of people not wanting to remix to, uh,

to mix those. So I guess it all depends on how devout you are in your faith. Right. Because I think the more devout you are in your faith, the less. Malignable. Right. Bending or flexible. You're going to be when it comes to religion.

Oh. So. For me. I mean, long you ain't, you know, you ain't out there cutting up no goats and no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, long as you ain't, you know, you ain't out there cutting up no goats and no satanic stuff. Right, right, right. I think we pretty cool.

If you want to go to church, have at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, yeah. I like church too. I like church. Obviously,

I went to New Birth. I went to New Birth Baptist Church. Victor, Bishop Victor T. Curry. New Birth in Atlanta? No. that's from miami man i'm talking about the original i'll tell you about the only new birth the new birth in miami florida victor's pastor victor t curry the real new but no disrespect no disrespect to the church no no respect but uh, you know, I hit Miami, man.

And I don't go to church as often as I used to. I don't go as often as I used to. I think I've gone enough, obviously, growing up. You know, grandma had me in church. Grandma went to church in Overtown. Reverend Clark was her pastor. That was our first pastor, Reverend J.E. Clark. For real?

Mount Zion Missionary Baptist Church. Listen, Mount Olive Baptist Church, Reverend Clark over there in Overtown. And I kind of not graduated, but I kind of veered off over to New Birth Baptist Church. That was at Miami Northwestern at the time. They were having service at Miami Northwestern. I would walk all the way from my house on 44th Street all the way down 7th Avenue just to go to church there and always been there for years. But I don't go as

often as I need to. And the fact that you just brought it up about religion again. See, what has happened is that, see, the church is taking on a different meaning. The church is here. See, what people have gotten confused is that the building. Right, right, right. That's not where the church is. Right.

There are people that go to church and will say or do anything. There are people that go to church. See, people have hidden behind religion for thousands and thousands of years. And they'll use that book. There, there, there are places in the, in the Bible that you can find that will support anything that you do.

Come on now. It ain't even Sunday, but go ahead and preach. And people will use that now in the Bible and Leviticus. It says you're not supposed to sleep with a woman on a cycle. How many women will give it up on this cycle? And how many men will take it? Y'all better stop playing.

I ain't going there. I ain't going. Oh, Joe, I ain't going to stop playing. I ain't going there. I ain't going. Ocho, I ain't going to do that. I don't want people to know what I know. Don't you stop now. Don't you stop now. We're going to get the fan questions. We're going to get the fan questions.

Come on, Bresha. Come on. Come on, Bresha. Hey. Ocho. My brother will tell you this um when i was about probably about 11 or 12 yes sir the pastor told my grandmother he told her that i was going to be a minister yes sir i don't know what happened to me, Ocho. Well. I still, look, I don't want people to think that, but I do. I have a Bible.

I read the daily bread. I pray often. I have an understanding. I don't hit people over the head with what I know when it comes to biblical. You live your life. I can't get you into heaven. The only person I can get into heaven is shannon i can't save but one soul that's mine so how can i save you and lose my own so let me save

mine i can assist or tell you what i think you should do but at the end of the day that's your call but anyway i ain't gonna know no, I ain't going to do it. Uncle Ocho, Uncle Ocho J. Uncle Ocho, what are some unspoken rules amongst players that don't get talked about? Unspoken rules. It ain't no unspoken rule. You don't mess with nobody's

money. You don't be talking about nobody's wife. You don't mess with nobody's kids. That's it. I mean, I don't know if it's spoken or unspoken but see when we were in when we were in the locker room we didn't talk about religion no we didn't talk about that shit in the locker room we didn't talk about politics absolutely we didn't talk about orientation or something we didn't say we didn't talk about that stuff hell nah all i want to know can you can you can you catch the ball can you can you sack no. Can you catch the ball?

Can you sack the quarterback? Can you run the ball? I don't care what you do. You can sleep with 100 men for all I care. I'm trying to win. As a matter of fact, can your boyfriend, can he catch? Can he run? Hell, break his ass out here.

I don't got nothing to do with me. There are no unwritten rules. there are no unwritten rules there are no unwritten rules you just but obviously the three the three that nobody needs to say is obviously you don't talk about nobody wife you don't try to holler at nobody wife oh no no no and you don't talk about nobody goddamn kids no no and shit and that's pretty much it more yeah i mean just the common common common you know the thing was you know i will hold on i was i think it was old gills in the podcast they were talking about um about how the situation like okay your wife is off limit and then you get that you know you get you know you get your girl i saw that no you don't. No, you put, you get one. One. Your wife is on the shelf.

Everybody else is on the shelf. Everybody else is bad game. Everybody else is touchable. Bad game. Everybody else is reachable. I saw that. Everybody can be checked out. Hey, that was a good episode.

You lying to me. Hey, you remember somebody said. If you got a wife and you got a bad side chick. Yeah. And you think you're going to be able to save both of them. No, you not. You're not going to save that girl. Your wife, I ain't even looking at her.

But, oh, you best believe I'm throwing a net out there trying to reel her in. Hey, it was so funny, the conversation they was having, right? Somebody said, oh, I see so-and-so in the stands tonight. Okay, which one of y'all got so-and-so here at this game? Hey, man, that was funny. Listen, but them basketball players, they move different, boy. They do, but they move different. Well, man, that was funny. Listen, but them basketball players, they move different, boy. They do, but they move different.

Well, they move different, boy. Hey, if you tell me you talk to them, if you tell me you used to talk, if they told me they talked to, oh, you know, I used to talk to somebody. I took my tail and run. I ain't got that kind of brain. I can't fight him. I can't fight what he can do for you.

Now, back in the day, your boy used to be ready to tussle and to drop. But I done got old now, Ocho. That ain't in me no more. But, oh, they say, oh, yeah, you get your wife. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you don't. Oh, no, hell no. You get to put one on the shelf. And she can't be touched. Now, if it Hell no. You get to put one on the shelf. Yeah.

And she can't be touched. Now, if it could be your wife, it can be your girl. Yeah. But you don't get to. Oh, hell no. Oh, no. No, sir. I don't know what they do that at.

Listen, boy, them boys vicious, boy. They can be vicious all they want to, but I know about them. Them boys play a different ball game. Boy, them zeroes don't play. Yeah. That's play a different ball game. Boy, them zero don't play. Yeah. That's why I can't compete. Put them zero, don't play.

See, they got that kind of money. If you want to keep up with them, you don't need track shoes. You need a checkbook. And I ain't got that kind of checkbook. Oh, yeah. So, nah, nah. But I will talk to Gil about that when he come back on the way.

I'm like, Gil, I heard y'all talking. Y'all don't... You can't say... No, you get't say no you get to save one now you got a chocho you got a choice yeah two people drowning you could only save one you can't say both of them nah you can't you can't swim back to shore with two drowning people now which one you want to put up there to make sure she's safe right got another one

we coming yeah we coming i'm a real tired hey i don't know you but that real current you know that real current yeah boy that's like powerful yeah even some of the strongest women oh yeah what you can't you got a you just gotta let this go with it don't swim against it because all you're gonna do is tie you out and drown you go with it all out a little bit and then you know what the funny thing is you know it makes it makes it even worse is there are so many so many fine i'm talking about the finest of the finest women right how many athletes is it that really got it think about it it's only a select few it's only a small it's only a handful of them but it's so many women and all the women want the select few athletes so guess what they select few athletes want the select few athletes so guess what they select few

athletes want the women and they want the women they pick they they pick who man color it don't matter it's a certain type of a woman that an athlete really has to have yeah and it's not for the look normally they got that hair whether it's the Halle Berry crop, whether it's long and wavy, they mix. You know, I don't know what it is. My grandma used to say, my grandma, when I was a little boy, she said, boy, you color struck. Yeah. What she meant by that, the red balls. Yeah.

See, you know what? I had a different mentality when it a different different mentality when it came to that when it came to dealing with women my whole thing was your dna are you athletic yeah i need i need i need to listen i need to see let me what you doing in high school did you cheer did you play volleyball did you play basketball did you play softball are you athletic first dates i'm going on dates where i need to be able to see if you can move do you got two left feet can you ask make a motherfucking layup because i'm gonna need your dna at one point at one at some point your dna because if you ask what's

the most important foundation when it comes to playing sports your footwork yeah and everything you do your footwork so if i'm on a date with you where you just also happen to get pregnant now i gotta deal with you and my child you mean also happen to get pregnant what the hell you ain't no also happen yeah i'm just saying that's that's why i only dated people that were athletic i don't care i don't care i don't give a fuck about how you look because i look good enough for two i don't care how you look all you athletic period that's it that's a that's a good hey you got you got you got these dudes going to get these pretty women they so fine and then you have a kid and you wonder why your kid getting picked last in pe because you got there and pick somebody she can't even make a motherfucking layup

but god no athleticism she got two left feet The kid getting picked last to pee, but she getting picked first for the date. It ain't me. Let me out. I'll take her. That's all right. You can have that. It's too late now. It's too late.

Man, I saw that light skin and that long wavy hair. Yeah. You like that, huh? You like that? Shit, look, listen, man, I ain't trying to... I wasn't trying

to have no models. I want to have... You want the women to be in church when the Holy Ghost... Yeah. Put their head up. Yeah.

That was your thing now, huh? Yeah. Back in the day, back in the day, Ocho. I was young. I was young. Yes, sir. You know, your boy...

Your boy was man oh show yeah my 20s early 20s mid 20s wow what you were doing i could pee i could pee in a swinging boot from 25 feet away i just ain't what i used to be i ain't what i used to be oh hey hold on hold on no you ain finna get away with that one. Hold on, you say you could pee in a swinging boot from 25 feet away? Yeah, you swaying the boot up there. You said a swinging boot

so the boot moving and you still hit the boot? 25 feet. Yeah. I don't know what happened to your boy Ocho You know Now you gotta bring the boot a little closer Now you gotta bring it a little closer Ocho

But I know it can't move It's still swinging or it's still I can still reach it But I just need to move it a little closer Yeah yeah yeah Ain't nothing wrong with the plumbing now Ain't nothing wrong with the plumbing The pipes still work.

You know, I had to get, you know what I'm saying? A couple years ago, Ocho, I had to get some Drano to get the pipes unclogged. Right, right, right, right. You good? Yeah. I like that. I like that. I like that.

Boy, that's a good one that way uh what i roll reliable faith i owe joe and shannon can you remember a time when coach or coach or staff gave you bad instruction and you did you did what believe was right how did you move forward after that uh were you able to maintain a working relationship and respect. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. But at the, but I remember a player like my rookie season, I didn't know the route and the player gave me the wrong route.

I ran the route. It was wrong. Coach Reed, true my ass out, but yes, I've had a coach, but I was, I should have known it's on me.

See, I can't, what I'm supposed to go. So now I'm supposed to go tell the OC. I'm supposed to hear the head coach. This is what he told me. See, I can't. What I'm supposed to go. So now I'm supposed to go tell the OC. I'm supposed to tell the head coach. This is what he told me. Right. I bite the bullet.

I don't tell nobody. I own that. That's me. I should have known. I should have known. And if he told me something that I didn't, that I knew, I'm going to do it my way. I'm always going to take the responsibility. I remember one time we're in minnesota and um i was supposed to be on the line of scrimmage and the uh duane carswell was

supposed to be off the line of scrimmage but i switched with him he said nah sharp he say sharp nah man i said don't worry about it i said i'll bite the bullet so they got to the they got to so we got to the sideline cool never asked what the, what the, what the, what going on out there? Who the fuck? I said, I did it. I did it. Right. I switched.

Now, I mean, what? Y'all going to bitch me? Mm-hmm. I'm going to bite the bullet. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. I'm mad enough to say that. But yes, I've been told in situations, I've told the wrong thing.

But that's on me because i should know i should have known my playbook better right right but you think like oh man but it's all good it's all good i kept a great relationship because at the end of the day we all human we all human yeah when i think about it i've never had any situations like that where coaches are telling me to do one thing and I did another. I think one of the things that happened with me is the way it's written on paper or the way we went over it in meetings. Yeah. And it's X's and O's.

And what my coaches fail to realize, I say more so my offensive coordinator at times, Bob Borkowski, I'll never forget. Bob, we would disagree on things, on ways certain things should be run. Because obviously on paper, there's nobody moving. There's nobody moving and it's an X and it's an O. And you want me to get from point A to point B in a certain amount of time within the time frame of the offense. So I don't mess up the timing of the offense. But Bob, I can't run it that way. I have to run it this way because the guy in front of me, he's not going to be sitting still

like it is on that goddamn paper. Right. And he's going to be putting hands on me. Yeah, he's going to be trying to put hands on me. So listen, I'm not going to argue the fact with you, but when I get in the game,

game time situation, just know I'm going to be open. I'm going to improvise just a little bit, but I'm going to stay within the timing of the offense and make sure I'm where I'm supposed to be when it's time for that ball to be thrown. That's one of the few things I can remember and recall

because he would always harp on doing it the way it's written and the way he's taught it. But at certain times, depending on the person across from me, me understand who I'm playing against, there's some things I need to do and improvise a little bit but stay within the timing of the offense. Well, I've been very, very fortunate because my position coach, Coop, BP, whoever, and Mike.

Mike's like, look, we draw them like this, but I just get open. However you get open, as long as when seven back foot hit. I like that. And you're coming open and he's ready to throw. and seven back foot hit. I like that. And you're coming open and he's ready to throw. Because all that,

look, all that stuff and you drawing it up on tape and on the backboard and you got a scribbler here to do that. Okay, I get that. That sounds good.

Yeah. But come Sunday, them mofos coming. Yeah. Get open. And he tried to, he grabbed it and he took it.

No, I'm going to be open. Right. And John and I have already talked grabbed it he took it yeah no i'm gonna be open right and john and i've already talked about it hey 12 to 14 he's a running 12 to 14 in practice i know you're gonna cut it down to 22 10 to 12 in the game because everything's happening quicker just hey let's just time it up let's see how it go and we might hey by the end of the week he's a running 10 to 12 and come game time is 8 to 10 yeah because it because at the end of the week, he say run it 10 to 12. And come game time, it's 8 to 10. Because at the end of the day, what the coaches say don't matter. They might tell me something, we'll run it like this. John say run

it like that. Who got the ball? I'll listen to the mofo that got the ball. What y'all talking about with a headset? That don't do nothing for me. At all. I ignore. I block out all things that doesn't have seven. If you ain't got no jersey on

right I ain't listening to you come game day I'm not I'm not that's just the way it is uh Key asked

with the NFL changing their policy on jersey numbers would y'all wear a single digit number or stick to 84 and 85 I'm wearing number two for real yeah

I'm wearing I wore number two in college okay okay okay college thing I'm number two I'm and 85 i'm wearing number two for real yeah i'm wearing i wore number two in college okay okay okay college thing i'm number two i'm sticking i'm sticking 85 we said in college i had 80 i won 80 when i got when i got to the bangles but peter work the great peter work the greatest collegiate receiver of all time had 80 so yeah i would stick with 85 that 85 is symbolic man you know the singleit numbers are cool. It's something about a single-digit number. You got to be that boy dog to wear that single-digit number. You got to be that boy.

It held more weight to me in college, in high school, little league. I was single-digit in high school. I was number three in high school. Yeah. But in the NFL, it just don't hit the same to me. It don't hit the same. The single-digit numbers, though, it don't. Because you're not used to seeing it.

You're not used to seeing skilled players, linebackers, DBs, and anything like that with a single-digit number. But I think over time, guess what, Ocho? 10 years, 15 years from now, when you see more of it, you're going to be like, damn, how long they have single-digit numbers? Because I remember when Kenny Burrow wore double zero. zero right back in the 80s for real yeah how come nobody they need to bring that that zero back a double actually a zero maybe not double zero i think i think you could have zero uh see what what would happen if they whatever you got drafted as like armand rashad he wore 28 as a receiver

but he was drafted as a running back brad van pelt he was a linebacker he wore number 10 but he came in the league as a quarterback so he got to keep the number right so so it there were some oddities but i mean you know back then you see running backs with 77. You know, the old, you go back to real old footage, JoJo. They got 77. They got 50. Right. Running back with 77. 77?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think Marion Motley was 77. That got to be way. Wasn't Marion Motley 77? That got to be way back in the day. Like in the 50s and 60s. I think Motley was in the 60s.

Yeah. Marion Motley was in the 60s, right? Or 50s. That's crazy. 77 at running back. Huh? He was 77 in high school too. So he just kept that number.

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justin herbert yeah shit they were they was bad they was bad with justin herbert i mean to the fact even when justin herbert was there they were still talking about firing goddamn mr um staley brandon staley brandy yeah we're still talking about firing mr staley but shit but justin herbert is he's a good quarterback he yeah very good that's you know what i'm so glad the dude asked that where would you rank justin herbert do you put him in your top tier based on big quarterback, big arm? Where do you put Justin in? I think Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar.

Josh Allen. Josh Allen with the play he played this year, Dak. Yeah. Who else? Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts. I'm drawing a blank. Yeah, Herbert Purdy. Oh, you know who I thought?

C.J. Stroud. Oh, yeah. The funny thing is C.J. Stroud is a rookie, and he's in company already like that. Yeah. I like Trevor Lawrence. Oh, yeah. I forgot about T.L. Yeah.

T.L. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy. Trevor Lawrence has changed that goddamn franchise. Oh, Marion Motley wore 36. I mean, excuse me, he wore 76, not 77, 76.

Millennium Art asked, Funkin, don't you a big fan of both of you guys? For years, love the show. Have a question. What's the biggest thing you and your kid's mother have disagreed on when it comes to parody? Woo! But that's a good one.

Listen. Know what that is? That's a good one. Oh, money? Yeah. How much good one. Listen. That's a good. Oh, money? Yeah. How much? Okay. Okay.

I was a little fortunate. I was a little fortunate. I was a little fortunate. Where those that I have kids from, I have kids from those that come from where I'm from. Does that make sense? You understand where I'm from. Does that make sense? You understand where I'm coming from? I didn't leave my front porch and get money and go and try to impregnate those that wouldn't deal with me if I didn't have money. You get where I'm going? So when it came to the situation of being able to take care of my kids and what they needed, it was just for just that, not a means of image and living a certain lifestyle.

Right. You get where I'm going? I get you. I was fortunate in that situation. Right. And one of the reasons why when I do talk, you always hear me mention them and the job that they've done because life could be hell. Especially with the way I did things where I didn't do it the traditional way. Oh, they could have took me to the goddamn cleaners if they wanted but i had people

with the right state of mind and had obviously that the goal at the end of the day is for the child but yeah i think i think schooling i mean i mean what what what kid need to be in a 15 you know 10 15 000 a year kindergarten what ain't no such thing yeah the hell you say it ain't no such thing so we we we 10 15 000 yeah so we argued about stuff like that because i thought i i didn't think i didn't think uh a kid that was in that kind of was getting that much better of an education hell they ain't doing up a finger painting and going to recess and eat drinking drinking milk and eating cookies anyway. Wait, you speaking from experience?

Yeah. Who was going to make you pay $15,000 for kindergarten? The judge. Hey, look, the thing is, Ocho, like I said, I think the kids got a better appreciation for what I did now. I know. See, the thing is, Ocho, like I said, I think the kids got a better appreciation for what I did now. I know.

See, the thing is, Ocho, like when kids, they just want what they want. They don't really know, especially if the parents aren't together. And maybe even if they are together, what one parent or the other parent is doing to make sure they maintain that standard of living. I think my kids now, they see how expensive stuff feels. Even though it's more expensive now, when you do that three times, they're like, okay.

They have a greater appreciation of it. Right. And so, but that was it. And then we sit down and we talked about it, and it's like, okay. And some of them are like, well, I i think for me i think the best thing for him is to take him out of private school because society ain't private yeah it ain't no situation just because you got this this and this you're over there they're gonna be more in a situation so i i need to get them acclimated to the real deal so yeah when i when i when i think about that that is a great question that's a great question because i have a lot of i have a lot

of athletes coming to me even even this day and they've been doing it throughout the years and they always ask man listen ocho how do you do it how are you able to handle the the issues with those you have kids from i only have have one. I'm having problems. She's making my life a living hell, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Whatever it may be. And I'm always giving advice. I said, listen, those individuals you have kids from or that person you have a kid from can make your life a living hell. For one, you got to understand who you had a child from. Understand the makeup and the DNA of the person you were dealing with and what they were doing before you came along.

You already know what about you is what you can do. So, now you got to deal with it. Now you got to suffer the consequences. Do everything you can to make that individual happy.

You don't have a choice at this point. You don't have a choice. Now you stuck. Yeah, Ocho, but you know, when you young, Ocho. Oh, yeah.

You don't see it that way. I'm trying to be right I ain't trying to keep no peace right shit I'm thinking long term man I'm thinking long term I'm thinking long term

I'm gonna be right I worry about tomorrow tomorrow but today I'm right yeah I got you today I'm right but as you start to get older you're like, okay, whatever. Yeah.

Yeah. But you don't want to get taken advantage of either, man. That's my thing. That's my thing. You don't want to get taken advantage of, man. Tell me what the child need. Say it again. Within reason.

Tell me what the child needs. tell me what the child need say say the reason tell me what the child needs at any point at any time you know i is in in those they know they know i just had i had i had a conversation with one of mine moms coming to an agreement like uh this is what uh i have to do for so and so oh no baby you ain't got to worry about that you don't have to do nothing anything she need man just hit my line you know we good you don't have you don't have nothing ain't nathaniel you got nothing to worry about ever so that even shouldn't be a topic of conversation you know so sometimes it's great as I think I have been as a father, I have so much more work to do. I have so much more work to do, you know? And as soon as you think you've made it or you've reached a certain point where, damn, I'm doing a good goddamn job,

you know what? Man, life comes at you fast. You ain't nowhere near where you think you are. Oh, Joe, I don't live in the past. I already told my kids I can't get back what I lost. I say time is the one thing that we can't recapture. All I can do is try to be the best I can moving forward. Every day, you know, we have a conversation. If you need something, I will give you. I will be honest with you now.

I'll be honest with all my kids. I'm honest. My oldest is coming out here for Christmas. Um, my, my youngest just left. She was out here like 13, 14 days for Thanksgiving. Um, my son is married now. Uh, he's not as mobile as he once was. Uh, he's married, got, got, got my grandson. So, but I'm, you know, Hey, we'll work in progress we'll work in progress yeah we call we talk but there are some things that i know i get need to get better at right um but they understand you know every time like damn daddy you you work a lot

say dad i thought you would slow down i was like and do what i said let's just say for the sake of argument because i'm good enough i can retire now and live comfortably, never have to work, never have to say another word, not do anything. I said, but what am I going to do? I ain't got no hobbies. I don't travel. I don't fish. I don't play golf. I don't build Legos. I mean, so what would I do if I did nothing and when I wouldn't do that before noon. So what would I do? I don't look at what I do now is work, right? This is, Oh, this is fun. This ain't no work. Yeah. Hey, this, this ain't, this ain't, this ain't work. This is fun. I enjoy this. I enjoy going on inside the NFL. Anytime I could still be integrated and submerged in the game of football and still have some piece of it attached to me. That is not work. That is considered fun.

But see, that's the thing, because they ask, they're like, Daddy, they've always seen everything that I did. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I thoroughly immersed myself in it. And it's like, you think we ever go have a job? I say, I don't know. I say, but I want you to, you should probably find something because there's nothing worse than waking up every day and hating to go somewhere or to be somewhere

or to do something. Right. Or I guess the same thing, if you were the partner, you wake up every day like, damn, you still here. I'm still here. What the fuck? You know, I was hoping you'd be like the Indianapolis Colts in 84.

Just move your stuff out in the middle of the night. Damn, you still here. That's bad. Nah, but in all honesty, the thing is that the work ethic. That it is hard and people ask the conversation that you have with your kids, given how you grew up. Ocho, my kids couldn't survive one hour, one hour in my life. The first 20 years, not one. Right. Not one. Because they've never had a job in which they haven't worked in AC.

And I didn't have a job that I worked in AC until I got to CBS. So I was in my 30s. Every job I had I was in the damn sun. Or I was in the elements. So, or I was in a chicken house or I was in a field. And so,

I didn't like those so, and I remember, I remember, I didn't like those, but I just remember getting up like, damn, going to work. Like, man,

I'm a, this $5 where I'm going to get money for you. Didn't go to work. You didn't get paid. Man, $5 go a long way. And back then, yeah.

Oh, Joe, but you got to understand. Oh, Joe, I was five or six years old in the fields working 10, 12 hours. Ooh. Woo. And yeah, but you got to understand Ocho I was five or six years old in the fields working 10-12 hours and yeah this this this is what I knew from that point on I've never ever slacked on a job

my cousin my cousin Lanny they called him son that my uh the boss is Joe Tatum and Tiny they were brothers so we worked for them they called They called me Pee Wee because I was so small. I was small as a kid. They called me Pee Wee. They called him Sundown because he's like, Mr. Joe, it's time to knock off the sun going down. So they nicknamed him Sundown. So, man, we were working one

day and he's like, man, he's like, cuz we need to, man, they need to give us a raise. I said, well, how much? He much he said man ask mr joe for a dollar knowing me they they put i'm the youngest yeah so he pushed me they put you up to it he put he put me i know they he because my older cousin they were already making i think they was making like 14 a day we's making five walking behind the back of him and so i said mr joe man we've been working hard we my man i said me and lanny man we'd be working hard and uh man we need a raise right he said well

pb how pb how much you think you made how much you think uh you you should get a raise to i'm like i don't know give us a dollar we need to make six dollars a day he's like okay pb six dollars it is so we get the raise mr joe tell us like on a monday tuesday we gonna get the raise man me and my cousin we get out there we start bull jive the next day my sister ain't say nothing because now because it's me my brother my two uh arnelle eugene rest his soul lanny uh i think dr pearl was there me my brother so it was it was it was the crew of us so we out there bull jibing around we playing a horse around we done got us a dollar rate hey ain't serious no more we get home that night livin said granny them boys them boys got a raise

and uh all they did just all they did today was play in the field my granny said mmm that's all she said that's all she said I'm going to tear y'all ass up she didn't say none of that next morning

Mr. Joe pull up blow the horn granny come out there Joe hey Mary how you doing I'm good Mr. Joe pull up blow the horn Granny come out there Joe hey Mary how you doing she said I'm good Libby told me y'all you gave them boys a raise

he said yeah Mary they been working hard I gave them a dollar she said take it back what take it back and he took it back from that point on I ain't never went on nobody's job in bull jive

i don't care if he paid me five dollars i don't care they paid me fifteen dollars i don't care if they paid me seventy thousand i give everybody an honest day's work and that's what my grandma said boy when somebody give you an honest day's salary you give them an honest day's damn work and from that point on i probably was no more than about six or seven yeah probably hold on i might have been i might have been i might have been nine might have been might have been nine i might have been eight going to nine because that was like 77 it's like in 77 so i'm probably nine years old but you better than me because i would that dollar would have been spun no but here's the thing ocho we, back then, we got paid at the end of the week. Right.

So we got paid, and we worked a half a day on noon. So we had the corner store, the corner store. And so we could get stuff on credit. So we go in there. So Honey Buns was a quarter. Yeah. 12-ounce canned soda was a quarter. Chips, the bag you got now that costs a dollar, whatever it costs, was a quarter yeah 12 ounce canned soda was a quarter chips the bag you got now that costs a dollar whatever it costs was a quarter quarter back then yep but so we could go get whatever we

want on uh during the week and then we'll settle up with miss christine at the end of the week so we go in there and my bill oh joe let's see five five, I got, hold up, five, six, so five days, that's 30. Half a day, that was 250. So I made like 30 to 250. Yeah. Ocho, my bill at the corner store be about $7, 50 cents, $10. Nothing junk, nothing knickknack. Right.

Nothing knickknack. But from that point on, when my grandma told that man even though i was nine years old and we working 10 12 hours a day and we bull job one day on the job and and she told that man to take that dollar back never again yeah never again i ain't never i have never ever gone on anybody's job and played around around, huh? No, sir. No, sir. No, sirree. I don't buy it.

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Young people work a lot of young people work a lot of jobs because working a lot of jobs as a kid will let you know what you don't want to do when you get to be an adult because think about how flexible and how easy it is for you to move about when you're a child now you think I wanted to work

12 hours in a field and then go work another 4 hours and catch chickens you think I wanted to clip pick up pec a field and then go work another four hours and catch chickens. You think I wanted to clip, pick up pecans, clip onions, bale hay. You think I want to do that for the rest of my life?

You know, the funny thing about it though, but times are different now. Times are different now. People want a lot of money for a little bit of work. But sometimes people don't even want to put no work in. No.

They find loopholes around it. I'm going to go ahead and clock in. I'm going to sit over here and act like I'm working or doing something. People don't want to work. People don't want to work. Don't want to put the work in for the money that they want. It's different now. There are very few people that really want, you know what?

The way you put on that goddamn hard hat you go to work you ain't finna play no games about what you do everybody ain't like that huh no everybody like it's different now everybody want x y and z but nobody wants rst ain't nobody want to do that no everybody man i want to make all that money man man you working too hard i don't want to make all that money. Man, man, you working too hard. I don't want to do all that. But damn. You want somebody to take care of your ass, big, rust ass? Yeah. Bro, you got to get it.

The funny thing about it is, another thing, especially when it comes to women, fellas that are grinding, that are working, you know, women never are around for the grind. They never around for the grind. But when the product is finished everybody at your front

door they ain't never there for the grind you know when it's hot you know you're shooting in the gym or you're out there on the field working your routes and doing all that but boy let draft a hit let that name go across the bottom of the ticker. Everybody loves the finished product. Nobody want to help you build or help you get there. Man, my grandma always... Something about my grandma and these motherfucking sayings. My grandma always had

a goddamn saying. Boy, don't you ever try to build an empire with a woman seeking attention from the village? Okay. Boy, shit. You can't. You can't.

Because I think that Ocho. But let me tell you. Let me see. And I've dated a few people. Don't need to call no name. But you have to understand.

We need names for reference and context on but you have to understand. No, no, no. We need names for reference and context on what you're talking about. Ocho. Yeah. The difference is between most athletes, myself,

and I'll just speak, I'll let you speak to you, I'll speak to me. Yeah. People have been knowing who I was since I was 16 because I was that guy. Yeah, you that boy.

When I went to Savannah State. Yes, you were. I was that guy. When I went to Savannah State, I was that guy. After my third year from their own, I was that guy. So I've always gotten attention. You see, if you've never gotten attention, you want it later in life. I'm cool.

See, for me, they say fame and fortune. Give me the fortune. F the fame. I don't need the red carpets I don't need none of that I'm good but she couldn't understand Shannon why you don't

because baby I've been this I just didn't become this I've been this and I'm okay and I'm okay now and people like uh um that must make you feel good when people want your autograph i was like i mean it's if when you young ocho when you first started because i remember my brother my brother used to get so annoyed he's like man he said you're gonna see you're gonna see because Ocho without signing everything it's okay he's okay and and the thing is the problem that I got now Ocho people will wait till they get finished with their meal

and then come ask you to take a picture I I'm like, oh, I noticed you. You waited until you was finished with your meal. You didn't want to interrupt your meal, but you ain't got no problem interrupting mine. Right. You hit him with that for real? Yes. I'm watching him because I get, you know, I'm watching. I pan.

I try not to make a whole lot of eye contact with people when I'm walking. I'm from point A to point B I hear but I don't see and so I got my headphones on and I'm especially when I'm traveling if I'm going to New York normally Azure or joins with me we going somewhere they're normally with me

and they know you better have on some track shoes because I'm my luggage is in the air that's how fast I walk it ain't rolling it's in the air because I'm moving so

but that's the thing though Ocho I'm like it's I mean it's nice I'm not going to tell anybody that it's not nice but i don't i don't i don't i don't crave it yeah i don't i don't crave it yeah i'm i'm i'm at once upon a time i was like man i want people to know me like my brother i want people to know

me like they know johnny where i know be careful what you ask for god just might give it to you yeah let me see it just it just came with the territory for me it came with the territory i i had played and i built myself up to a certain a certain status and certain figure where i became a household name very, very early. And it's still that way. And, but my approach is always different. You come bother me. You come bother me while I'm eating. You come and bother me while I'm eating at a restaurant. I'm going to make you pull up a chair and we're going to finish the meal together. Like I'm like that. Like I'm, I'm different. I'm man. I always treat people when I see him not saying I mean I'm just a little different

I'm a social butterfly I talk a lot if you walk up to me I hold a conversation which I have 20 goddamn 30 minutes I ain't got nowhere to go and I've done this to people before that bother me out at restaurants

or places I might be at the time and I will force you I will force you to sit down with me and finish a meal and have a conversation yeah if you interrupt oh yeah you interrupt nah man my oldest my oldest daughter when she when we were when i was when i would get the kids for the summer because i would get them for i would get them for the summer right and we go out to eat if somebody come up to talk about autograph she wasn't having it she said nah she's snapping she said this uh this is my time with my

daddy yeah with the kids my kids don't be tripping no but she didn't because she i didn't get a whole lot of time with him i didn't get a whole lot of opportunity to sit down and eat right and you know and how was how was how was camp today you know what we're gonna do you know we go hey we're gonna go to six flags blah blah blah and things like that and so she's like just that little bit of time to sign an autograph or to carry on a conversation that was going to take away from her she's always she's always been the vocal one right other ones now my daughter when i went to see her graduate when she graduated and you know people like because i was like i told her mom i said look i'm gonna come in there hey you go in and sit down let me know

where you're sitting i'm gonna come in there once the kind of ceremony start ease in there and so once the ceremony is like people started right and so by that time she had started to come she's like nah this is my day yeah ain't no picture i'm the only one taking pictures with dad right right right right right so i was like hey she's spoken hey listen my kids be funny man you know when we when we when we travel oh but we in a pack this ain't no one two or three my united is a bunch of us now somebody come ask me for a picture shit everybody jumping in the picture now

hey listen I know family photo yeah family photo you get every last one us it'd be so goddamn funny man oh Joe Neil West asked Ocho when did you first get the cigars oh man listen I never forget 1991 you know when you're young and you want you want to be cool Leo West asked, Ocho, when did you first get into cigars? Oh, man, listen.

I'll never forget. 1991. You know when you're young and you want to be cool. You want to hang with the crowd. But one thing I wasn't going to be able to do is to walk in my grandma's house smelling like no goddamn weed. So, what did I do? Because I wanted to fit in. I just wanted to be a part of them.

I started smoking cigars because I saw it on the show, I think with Jake and the Fat Man. Remember the show Jake and the Fat Man? Yeah. Yeah. We had the little bulldog. Little bulldog. Yeah. Man, he had a goddamn cigar. I followed him. I went to high school at Beach High. I went on the beach. There was a cigar place right on Washington Avenue. I'll never forget. And I grabbed a cigar and started smoking cigars when I was with the fellas.

And that's how the cigar thing started. Now, as I became to learn more about cigars as time went on, obviously now I have my own brand and I've been doing, I've been smoking cigars since 1991. That's crazy for a long time. Very long time.

David Bryson said, Ocho, i witnessed greatness seeing your daughter chanel run track at the junior olympics a while back she's the real deal how is she she's doing good man mocha is out there mocha is out there uh university kentucky she just won her first collegiate race last week uh she's now she's home everybody's home in miami for christmas break and kent Kentucky got a nice little program. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh, you know, Sidney McLaughlin, Abby Steiner. Abby Steiner, yeah. Kenny Harrison. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so she's up there getting that good work in. She won her first collegiate race last weekend, so I'm excited. I'm excited. Yeah.

I'm going to see the trials. I think the trials is up in Oregon. I'm going to take some time off. If it ain't, I got some time off, but I'm going to go see it. I'm going to see the trials. I think the trials is up in Oregon. I'm going to take some time off. If it ain't, I got some time off. I'm going to go see the Olympic trials. I hadn't seen the trials since the 1996 Olympic trials. Damn. Yeah. They were in Atlanta.

You've been busy. Yeah. But I love track and field. It's my favorite sport to watch. For real? Yeah. Yeah. My favorite sport is, well, obviously, my favorite sport is watch. For real? Yeah. My favorite sport is, well, obviously,

my favorite sport is soccer. Rodney Dinkins, that's my boy from Korea. Rod, will you be doing nightcap with the Olympics? Absolutely. We're going to come on during the Olympics. I've already reached out to a couple of participants

that I think is going to be in there. We're just waiting. But my boy, Ry, Ry Benjamin, Fred Curley. Man, Fred, Fred's going to race me, man.

Boy, you about to say that ninja blow the nose off you. You crazy as hell. Fred don't want no smell. Fred ain't got that kind of horsepower to hang with somebody like me, man.

Man, look here. You talk about a man that got, he one of the top, you talk about a guy that got 100 meter speed, 200 meter speed, 400 meter speed. Yes. You know what I got? Let me tell you what, you know what I got? I got

400 meter speed, 200 meter speed, and 100 meter speed. To talk about, man. No, no, no. Now you smoking a cigar, your lungs don't... Shit me. I work out every day. Oh, man, look who calling me, man.

Real. Now you know I'm on the show right now, now. Yeah, we still live. Real. Come on, man. You doing that. Real. Come on, man. You doing that. You playing with money, man. Don't play with my money like that.

Yeah, man. Come on, man. I got to go. Yeah. So, Rock, to answer your question, yes. We're going to try to hopefully we're going to be able to line up some correspondents, reach out to some people. I'm very, very excited about the Olympics.

Wish those guys the best of luck. Afazel Rehman. Love from UK guys. Oh, thoughts on dating Nia Long. She's single and classy. You guys would, you guys would love great.

Would look, I guess you say look great together. Ocho, set this up nah we good you good yeah I know her check this out one of my ex teammates Harry Swain

his wife and Neil were best friends yeah so I met I met her back in night at the first Super Bowl in San Diego so that was in night that was in January of 98. And then there was an event out here back in 2017, 2018,

that I actually took a picture with her and she asked me, did I remember? And I'm like, yeah, I remember you. And so we had a conversation. So that's the only, but no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm good. I'm good. Man.

You ain't talking about you good, man. Look no. I'm good. I'm good. Man. You ain't talking about you ain't talking about you good, man. Look here. I may might not have gotten over her. You know he'll call LeBron out of his name so he might, you know.

Okay. Okay. I don't want no smoke. No. I'm going to get you right, man. I'm going to get you right. I'm going to get you right

because you ain't Yeah. Something, you know what I mean? to get you right because you ain't. Yeah. Something. No, man. No Regina Hall. No Nia Long. I ain't said nothing about no Regina Hall. I don't know.

No, they say my celebrity crush. I said she my celebrity crush. I know, but we could, we could, listen, we could make that crush happen. It ain't got to be no crush. It could come into fruition. It could be a real thing. Coach, why you don't just let me live my life? I'm letting you live your life, but you ain't got to be no crush. It could come into fruition. It could be a real thing. Ocho, why you don't just let me live my life? I'm letting you live your life, but you ain't living it right.

I'm living it right. Ocho, man, you... Man, check this out, Ocho. Hold on. Man, the real superstar gamer, Uncle Ocho, big fan of you both. I did something unbelievable. Unbelievable. I did something unbelievable.

I sucked my girlfriend toes with butter, ketchup, vinegar, and honey. She told me, where did you get the idea from? I said, Uncle Ocho. Her response was, oh my God, I love you. Hey! See what I'm talking about? See what I'm talking about? Let me tell you something.

Hey, young fella. Now, listen. We got to take it to the next level now. No, ain't no next level. Take it to the next level. Now, you done went through the toll. Now, get you some whipped cream, right? Turn on her stomach.

You hear me? Get you some whipped cream. Turn on her stomach. Stay with me. Now, get you a strawberry. You better have a plate sitting on her back. Get you... No, ain't no plate. Ain't no plate. Now get your, you better have a plate sitting on her back. Get your, get your,

nah, ain't no plate, ain't no plate. Get you a strawberry or get you a cherry. Take that whip, take that whipped cream. You know where to put it? Oh,

hold on. Ocho. Yeah. Ocho, you don't, look here, you don't got everything from toes to elbows

and in between. Yeah. Oh, we in between right now? We in between right now. Listen, you know where it normally exit, but you never enter. That's where you put the whipped cream. You hear me?

You put your mouth there? Yeah. Put your mouth. Boy, your whole face, boy. What you talking about, man? Ocho, Ocho. I got the, okay. Okay, when she on the back, I get the, boy. What you talking about, man? Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho. I got the, okay. Okay, when she on the back, I get the front part.

Right. But come on, Ocho, you back. Unc. I guess you right around the corner. Slip of the tongue ain't nobody fault, Ocho. You right around the corner. Nah, but listen. The goddamn taint ain't nothing but this big, boy.

You never lick no ass? Oh, my God. ain't enough of this big boy. You never lick no ass? Oh! Dang, Ocho! I mean... Ocho. I mean... Ocho.

See, y'all... Y'all done ruined Ocho. Y'all done ruined Ocho. Y' y'all, see. Y'all done ruined it, Ocho. Y'all done ruined it, Ocho. Y'all done ruined it. Ruined what? Because I heard that these young boys, I'm talking about on the first date, be doing all that.

They ain't got to be young. They ain't got nothing to do with young. You got to listen. You got to be like Christopher Columbus, baby. You got to explore, now. You got to explore. No, man. Nah. Man, baby. You got to explore, man. You got to explore. No, man. Nah.

Man, you be getting best around to be done. Got shit wrecked. Fooling with y'all. Fooling with y'all. Ocho. That you. Ocho. Okay.

You got a girl. Y'all been together for a year or two. Okay, fine. But Ocho, y'all doing that off the rip now. Yeah, you supposed to do it off the rip. Oh, man. Come on, Ocho. Now, y'all doing that off the rip now. Yeah, you're supposed to do it off the rip. Oh, man. Come on, Ocho. Now, y'all.

Can I ask you a question? You told, you like, do you like, have you been fishing before? Yeah, I like to fish. You ever threw your fish in the goddamn water without the motherfucking bait on there? No. Can you catch a fish without the bait? But when I go fishing, I'm fishing for a particular type of fish. I don't just go eat it.

I just don't go fish for everything. Listen, when you go fishing, whatever you catch, you eat, don't you? No, hell no. I'll throw it back if it ain't what I'm fishing for. What the hell wrong with you? Hell nah. Man, you got your damn bag. hell nah man you got your damn back like just got just because you get on my line that don't mean i'm gonna reel your ass here to keep you hey come on man

now i see why your boy been out of gas lately who that he's all young but you young boys these young boys doing it up out here, I see. Nah, but listen, this ain't nothing new. You just behind the eight ball. You know, listen,

you still got the Motorola Razr. You got the Motorola Razr and we got the goddamn iPhone 15. That's the problem. You just say you not evolving,

you not evolving. I'm evolving. We need you to evolve. You got to evolve with the times, man. You like, you be doing. You not evolving. We need you to evolve. You got to evolve with the times, man. You be doing that caveman shit. Nah, Ocho. Yeah, man.

But I ain't gonna lie, Ocho. I walked in one time with my homeboy. I thought my homeboy was looking at curtains. Right. He in the booth like this. I thought he was looking at the curtain. Yeah. He got the booty cheeks open like that.

Yeah. Yeah. I said, oh, my goodness. I said, that's what y'all doing Yeah. That technique is bad. You can't open this way. You got to get your little oil. You got to get your little oil. You don't want to split the crack, man.

If she's dry, you can split the crack. You hear me? I need to take this to the heat. Ocho. Y'all doing too much, Ocho. I swear, Ocho. Y'all doing too much. I'm just trying to get to where you're trying to go, baby. I'm just trying to get to where you're trying to go, baby. I'm just trying to get to where you're trying to go. Sean.

Sean record asked, why you grossed out about eating booty? Yeah, you eat positive raccoon. But I had to build up to that. That's an acquired taste. I guess booty is an acquired taste, too, huh? You think ass ain't acquired taste? What? What?

Can they fry it? Can they fry it? Can they do it? They can't do it Jamaican style? What about Korean? That's a delicacy. What about Indian? It's a delicacy.

Yeah, man. I'm telling you. Man. It's a delicacy. It is? Huh? Yeah. Listen.

Listen. You take the talk. You know what? No,'s no i ain't gonna go oh so so in other words so in other words so this is like this is like a first date kind of thing a first date but first impressions of everything what when you fill out a goddamn resume, you go on that goddamn job interview, do you go on that motherfucking half-stabbing or are you trying to get the motherfucking job? You're trying to get the job, ain't you?

What shit? Huh? Lift them up, turn them, flip them, spread them, toes in the air, ice. So I need to put the muscle to use. I need to put the muscle to use, love. Put it to use. Man, listen.

So I can't do no 180 like that, no 220, 210. I need a fun size. I need somebody about 5'10". No, no, no. No, I get you. Like you said, like you said, 210, I'm all in. Don't do that. Oh, no.

I can't hold no 210 like that. Nah, listen. She upside down. You standing up. Listen, she standing up. Listen, stay with me now. I'm with you. She upside down, You standing up. Listen, stay with me now. I'm with you. She upside down, right?

Yeah. But she faces that way. What? Yeah, that way. Because you strong, boom. And right here, all you got to do is just put your head down. It's right there in front of you. Remember, she's facing that way.

So her head down at the bottom, but she's facing the opposite way. So boom, it's right there in front of you she's facing the opposite way. So, boom. It's right there in front of you. Little whipped cream. Right here. Little whipped cream. You spray it. Put a little cherry there. Boom. Get the cherry. Get the, you know, boom, like that. I don't want no chaser. Well, if I'm going to do all that, I don't need no chaser. So, you putting chaser on that thing. I don't need no chaser.

Wait. Hold on. What's the chaser? The chaser's the cherry? The whipped cream. Oh, you don't want no whipped cream? Mm-mm. Oh, that's just to dilute the taste in case you got any turtle heads. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We going to the shower. I'm washing that thing myself.

I ain't taking her word for it. Oh, no. That thing will be, when she come up out of that thing, it's going to be hog chitlin' clean. There you go. Pick his hand. There you go. There you go.

Yeah, I'm going to do that one. But, you know, I mean, this is for the rookies. This is for the rookies, just in case. This is for the rookies, just in case. But hold on. Sean, you have to understand. I ate possum and raccoon when I didn't really have a choice. Wasn't nobody bringing no baby back ribs.

Wasn't nobody bringing no New York strip or no pride. So that's what we had to eat yeah right but listen i guess that's why my phone don't be ringing yeah i mean that that too but you got the um we got to get you to evolve maybe man i got you got drunk you done drunk our booty juice I don't drink. You do it all that? You booty juice drunk? Nah, nah, nah. I don't drink. I don't drink. I'm in the right state of mind. And listen, the funny thing about it, those that are in the chat. I promise you, Ocho, don't you offer me nothing.

Look here, if we get stranded on a desert island and we ain't got but one jug of water, if you drink out that water, I'm done. I'm out. Just go ahead. Ocho, go ahead on, man. Tell my kids I love

them. Tell my brothers and sisters I love them. Everything been taken care of. But I ain't drinking after you, Ocho. I can't do that. You're going to be all right, man. You're going to be all right. I can't do it, Ocho. I'm just trying to get you right, hon. You don't put that much tongue in that girl, Bunky. man. I can't do it Ocho. I'm just trying to get you right. I'm just trying to get you right.

You don't put that much tongue in that girl monkey. Oh no. Nah man. Nah I look further than that. About the edge of the hair? Nah about four. Four inches of the tongue. Oh! Jesus. Man. to the table. Oh! Jesus! Man, I'm...

Man, I'm... I'm going to let y'all have that one. Listen, matter of fact, listen. I mean, the chat, I mean, I have a YouTube tutorial on stuff like this, so if anybody wants a little bit more extensive... extensive tutorial on some of the things you can do, you can go to my YouTube and check out my tutorial. Yo, they can check out your tutorial?

Yeah, yeah. I have a tutorial. It's called the Ultra Camera Sutra. The Ultra Camera Sutra tutorial on YouTube. Oh, the camera sutra? Yeah, it's on YouTube. You know, I did have one of those posters. I did have one of them. But man, you can't do all that.

Man, look here, man. They just be putting stuff up there, man. People can't be doing all that. Man, all them people can't be doing all them positions. Yeah. I mean, you can. You can, you know, but...

Well, I mean, to do some of those positions, you need one more plunder and pedals. I ain't got one of them. Man, you know what but... Well, I mean, to do some of those positions, you need one more plunder in Petals. I ain't got one of them. Man, you know what I'm saying? My thing got GPS. It go right the way it's supposed to go. I ain't got one of them things that be looping all around and going up on the corner.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Ojo. I ain't got any. Hey. Hey. Hey. Boy, you shot. I ain't got any. Hey. Hey. Boy, you shot out. Ocho, that's it. Ocho is a menace that you have unleashed. Ocho is a menace that you unleashed on the world.

Now you're responsible for this. Yeah, unfortunately, I am, guys. Unfortunately, I am. Bad, this joke is here. Ocho, they say they're going to tell an official license game every time Ocho tell an obvious lie to take a drink. What have

I lied about? Anything I've said on this show on multiple occasions is through life experience. Life experience. I don't believe you. When I said I beat goddamn Gilbert Arenas In one on one he was like hell no you didn't

And then he had to come on and tell you the same thing With LeBron I'm waiting on LeBron I'm waiting on Westbrook Who else I beat one on one D-Way Carmelo Who else I beat one on one DeMar DeRozan I mean all these dudes I mean I beat one on one

And they were struggling against me because i'm so goddamn quick and fast it had nothing to do with height and he had nothing to do with none of that off the dribble boy you done marcus says my queen and i love the show it would mean a lot if y'all could wish help me wish tiara cory a happy birthday tiara cory happy birthday. Tierra, Corey, happy birthday. Happy birthday, T. Hey, make sure you grab that whipped cream tonight, boy. Yeah, that's a special occasion. Yeah, that's special.

See, that kind of stuff, that's special. I'm talking about special, special, special. Like, 5th anniversary, 25th anniversary, stuff like that. Oh, yeah. Or, okay, Valentine's, her birthday. That ain't 5th anniversary 25th anniversary stuff like that oh yeah or okay Valentine's her birthday that ain't

that ain't no oh baby oh I'm feeling frisky let's do this that ain't that kind of thing right right right

I mean you with me I mean this ain't something that you do on a normal okay I mean this it's gotta be special Ocho ain't shit me ain't gotta be special

but every well you shit boy wide open boy I'm from I'm from I gotta take my glasses off of this one now Special Ocho? Ain't shit me. Ain't got to be special. Boy, you shit, boy. Wide open, boy. I got to take my glasses off for this one now. I'm from Liberty City, man. Wide open. Down 95.

Doing 100. What you waiting on? This is hard, folks. AJ Diaz, Uncle Ocho, love to show. Two questions, Uncle. Do you have a favorite undisputed episode you're uh you're or a segment you're extra proud of and ocho what story you've always wanted to tell her but never got a chance um man look bro i'm gonna be honest with you aj every episode that i did uh i had six years, nine months of great.

There were a few times that I thought it went over the line. But, bro, I poured my heart and soul into it. I can't even lie. I was as prepared as I could possibly be. And like I said, I'm not going to let two, three bad episodes ruin the six years and nine months of great times. So for me, it was great when Skip gave me the goat and I had the goat and he had the 23 jersey on. I've had I had some great I had great moments.

I've had a thousand more great moments. The great moments overshadow any bad moments. And I think the thing what happened is that people have replayed the bad moments so much more so than the good moments. But, man. I had an unbelievable that was. I wouldn't have been here without Undisputed. No matter what transpired at the end, there is no nightcap with Uncan Ocho, I don't believe, without Undisputed. I don't believe that there is Shannon on first take without Undisputed. I don't believe I'm the number one sports celebrity voted for by Complex Sports personality voted on by complex without a disputed.

So I appreciate everything under you today for sharing a sharp. What you got? Oh, Joe, what you got? What, what story you've always wanted to tell who you want to tell what you want to tell,

but never got a chance to story that I want to tell. Yeah. I ain't really got none. You're going to, you know, I'm, you want to tell what you want to tell but never got a chance a story that i want to tell yeah i ain't really got none you're gonna you know i'm i've been an open book since day one so i don't really really had nothing i don't i share every goddamn thing you know and the fact when you live your life public like that well you don't have nothing you share every goddamn thing going on i tweet every goddamn thing i'm doing, where I'm going, what I got going on. So it's like,

there's no surprises. So I ain't really got nothing to share because I tell the motherfucking world my every fucking move. Love the show, fellas. Question for both of you. Unc, top five hip hop artists from Atlanta and Ocho, top five hip hop artists from Miami. God dang.

Shit, from Miami, Ross, Pitbull, Uncle Luke, your top five hip hop artists from miami god dang shit from miami ross pitbull uncle luke uh trick daddy shit trina i'm talking about the i mean it's i don't want to say it ain't even fair i mean i can't it's too many people from atlanta oh man and that's there's something i'm missing but i'm just off the top of my head. I'm just thinking of the people from Miami off the top of my head. Yeah. Well, you can't have no list from Atlanta that involve hip-hop without Usher. So he—

What? Usher, not hip-hop. That's— So— Yeah, I think he's talking rap, talking rap though huh if you want rap okay rap um bro we got outcast we got future we got chains we got tis we i mean not we are gz y'all got a lot y'all got a lot big boy a hundred thousand y'all got a lot yes Y'all got a lot. Yes. Y'all got a lot. We loaded down there.

But if I had to say, and I know most of these. I forgot Trina. Shoot, Jackie O. Man, I can keep going. And you know, we got baby. Y'all, we got baby. We got face.

We got TLCc we got monica y'all y'all got a lot right we got you know we got a skate we love that and we and and and we got them things down there too you know we got them things down there too. You know, we got magic, allure, you know, diamond. Huh? Oh, you talking about the strip love? Yeah.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Dude, I want to rock. I want to rock. I want to rock. How should the NFL handle a situation like Matt, uh,

a Raza going forward? The punt God, he was the guy that was, if I'm not mistaken, San Diego state, right? San Diego state. He led the nation.

He was the Luke Groza award. He led the nation in punting. He got selected by the, uh, uh, Buffalo bills. I think what? Second,

third round, but he was a high draft pick for a punter. And at an office, at a, at a, at a party, young lady says she was sexually assaulted and accused him of being a participant. Yeah.

Hey, Ralph. Hey. Don't be coming in this goddamn house this time. It's late. What got going on? It's damned if you do. It's damned if you do. It's damned if you don't. Yeah, that's because if they'd have done nothing, everybody go say, man, they do nothing to him.

He got accused of this. And if you do something and then they say they overreacted. I just don't know in a situation like this. I honestly, honestly, Lou, I don't know how the NFL because they've never been faced with situations because when the NFL was instituted, they have no manual for this. Right. So this is trial. This is figure it out as you go along. I'm just glad he was exonerated.

He was found. It's tough because, you know, you get that scar, you get that letter hung on you you know it's tough it's tough I hope some other team, hell, Broncos give him a chance Ravens, somebody give him a chance

he deserves an opportunity, he's too good he's too good, because the question that I have Ocho, had this situation not arose, would he be in the NFL? Now that the situation has been, he's been cleared, he's been exonerated. What's the holdup?

So hopefully everything works out in his favor and he gets an opportunity to get to play in the NFL. Yeah, he probably will next year. I'm sure somebody will pick him up. If anything, maybe... Go ahead. Maybe the Bears bring him back next year.

What do you think? I hope so. I hope he gets an opportunity. He deserves that. Amber Lewis said, Hey, Uncle Nocho, been a fan since day one. Watching live from the island of Guam.

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Tell us what we need to do better. And we'll try to improve upon that we've also pinned the link uh uh chevalaportier at the top of the page holidays are right around the corner coming up real quick make sure you go out and get a bottle for you or a loved one um who else we got what we got what we got what we got uh ever okay uh spoke luau self-spoken luau my name is laurent and i love what you guys are doing what advice would you give someone who thinks they're not enough are you talking about you don't think you're enough or she doesn't think she's that's a good one wait what would you say that again Say that again. Say it again so I get a better understanding of what he was asking. He says, what advice would you give to someone who thinks they're not enough?

Damn, if you don't think you're not enough. Are you speaking for yourself? I ain't never thought like that. Listen, confidence is key. I'm more. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Confidence is key. Me ain't never thought like that. Listen, confidence is key. I'm more, oh yeah, oh yeah. Confidence is key.

We ain't got confidence for shit. You losing the battle already. You done lost half the battle already. Yeah. You always got to have that confidence.

Always. Women like a man with confidence. Yeah. You got to. You got to walk like it before you even open your mouth.

Yeah. Your aura, your presence. You just, it's just how you carry yourself. Yeah. You got to you got to walk like it before you even open your mouth yeah or your presence you just yeah it's just how you carry yourself when yeah when they gotta be confident when they see when they see when they see when they see oh that's a man yeah yeah the way the way i carry myself the way i conduct myself uh i'm firm i'm sturdy but, but they're like, okay, he's subtle. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Smooth, smooth. He's got a big heart. Yeah.

Yeah. Sense of humor. I got a great sense of humor. Sometimes, if you guys haven't noticed it, and yes, they like, you know, I often wonder like comedians when they meet someone do the

do uh the person do they want them to you know tell them jokes or tell them stories and i often wonder that but you know ocho uh over the last seven, eight years. People want to hear stories. Yeah. Your experiences, some of the things you've been with. And the stories that I've been telling, these are the ones that I could tell on air. Some things would probably need to go in a book or go in the grave with me.

That's the bad part because the story that i've told i probably got a thousand more that i can't tell right right right uh laney ray said santa nocho you always talk about what you're giving others for christmas what's the best christmas gift you've ever gotten and what do you want for Christmas? Oh, yo, that's a good question. The best Christmas gift I've ever gotten. And I don't even like gifts. I like to be doing the giving,

obviously, to the kids. I do. I'm definitely a giver. Yeah, I'm a giver as well. Best gift I've ever gotten. Oh, my goodness. And I'm simple, too, with the gifts I like. I like stuff like soccer jerseys, retro stuff.

My mom got me a pair of Air Jordans, the twos. I got a pair of those. I got a, of those. I got a... What did I get? I got... Do you remember those handheld football games that came out

like in the 70s, the late 70s? They used to have a football game, like a little football game. Yeah, I got to see it. Damn, I'm trying to think. Best favorite, best Christmas gift. I'm trying to think. Best favorite, best gift.

I'm trying to think the best gift that, and I think I think Lainey Ray, I think that's her name. I think when she's asking, like, I think she's talking about a gift that someone, like a female has given. That has given?

Yeah. Oh, shit. I know. What are the best givers? I gave them a mean one. I mean, one cripple, I gave mom a mean one. Yeah. Man, Santa Claus came down the trip and heard that and went right back up there.

What? What it was? Well, I gave her a mean one. You gave who a mean one? Man, she told me she wanted 10 inches to make it hurt. Yeah. I hit her three times and hit her with an elbow. Yeah. And I was out the door.

Woo! Woo! Come on, boy. Don't even play with him. Don't even play with him. Don't even play with him. Damn, Vince Christmas. I'm trying to... Oh, man, Ocho.

I'm trying to think. Because I'm like you, Ocho. I'm really simple. Probably... I can't even think of that. I can think of one of the nicest gifts I got in general, but not Christmas time. Oh, my goodness.

Probably, no. The best gift, it wasn't just Christmas. It was for my birthday. I had an ex get me a picture of my grandmother it was the picture that i have in my truck and it's me and my brother at the hall of fame and then my grandmother is in the background oh that's nice that's the that's the that's nice because it was i mean everybody knows what my grandmother mean and then i just like for the longest time ocho every every gift that i had gotten i had given the individual the money to get the gift so when i got when i started getting things and the woman was buying it with her own money, that, I'm like, okay.

But I'm simple. I don't really, I don't really. I don't know. I know one of the nicest gifts I got. Just give me a card. Just give me a card. And if I deal with you like that, you know. You know what I mean?

You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I think the nicest gift I ever got was, obviously, you know, you know,

I love smart cars. You know, people have made fun of me and my smart cars in 2006, but, um, Ms. Ms. Thing in there,

you know, every time I hit 10,000 miles on a smart car, I get a new one, you know, and I put the, I put the mat wrap or the black, the black mat wrap on it. Yeah.

And I got to the 10,000 yard mark on one of them. Yeah. And this one here surprised me with a new smart car. Did you? Yeah, man. That was dope.

Yeah, I just, you know, I'm really simple, Ocho. Because like I said, you know, my kids always say, Daddy, what do we get you? What do we get you? Daddy, what can we buy you that you don't already have?

I wish my kids would ask me that because I'm going to say I want me a yacht. I want the same kind of yacht goddamn Mark Cuban got. So y'all get your motherfucking money together. I want the same yacht just like that. Well, they better they better uh uh start uh developing something developing something to get that yacht that he got but for me i'll show i just think look like i said i'm simple man i just hey miss you thinking about you love you hey kiss i'm good yeah i mean i i because because Christmas has lost the meaning

because that's not what Christmas was about. I mean, it's not what it's about, but you know, it's hard to tell kids that Christmas is not about giving. No, I ain't talking about kids. I'm talking about the kids. The kids gonna get toys. The kids gonna get toys and stuff.

You know, so I'm just, yeah. That's a good one. Let me try the thing. What would be, if somebody, if you could just, yeah, I'm. That's a good one. Let me try the thing. What would be, if somebody, if you could say, you know what, if you say, if you could get one thing for Christmas right now. Right now, me? Right now, yeah. Oh, give me cigars. I know I have my own brand of cigars, but for me, it would be a box of, Chad, listen to me.

But for me, it would be a box of chat. Listen to me. If y'all want to send me some for Christmas, send me a box of Daniel Marshall 24-carat gold leaf cigars. Get me a box of, I'm going to say it again. You know my address. Daniel Marshall 24-carat gold leaf cigar. Yeah, that's what I want. Now, you get, if I wake up Christmas morning

on the motherfucking 25th and I got a box of them motherfucking Daniel Marshalls, somebody in this house going to be pregnant and they going to be due next year around September.

I tell you no lie. Yeah, I was. You know what I want to know, you see, I had to throw that little hint out because I know she could probably hit me. You ain't going to beat me to the punch. just, I just, hey, you see, I had to throw that little hint out because I know she could probably hit me. You ain't,

you ain't, you ain't gonna beat me to the punch. God, I tell you what, when I was a criminal, you said 2020, 2024,

we're having kids. Yeah, man. I want to come down there because I'm gonna post a picture of my Christmas tree. Yeah. Don't post a picture

of my criminal tree. I want to come down there and what about it? Yeah. Okay. And look over that tree that's a butt ball. Yeah. That tree. I want to come down there and wet-ball it. Yeah. Okay. And look over that tree, that's a butt ball. That's what I want.

That's what I want for cribba. Oh, yeah. Ocho, you owe me some underwear. Laughing at you guys. Tonight is one of the best. It's one for the books. Cool whip. Ocho, you want some wonder what too

nah she ain't i think she's talking about maybe from laughing oh okay yeah she yeah yeah you messed you messed up the wear black and gold for life ocho will you let her put whip creep on whip cream on you from the back oh oh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa just like a i'm listen i just explain i do all i do i'm just as i'm a giver i'm the giver i'm the pleaser i don't don't not nah nah i don't work that way no no sir no sir i like we i like we was going with it too it's a good question though black oh you're there you let up with the whipped cream i don't need a whipped cream i'm good i don't play that um no sir no sir and listen you gotta ask you gotta ask these days too

where you going baby yeah you gotta ask these days that's a good question and you know me i don't care you know i'm I don't care. You know, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you. I talk about everything. I'm an open book. Always have been. But no, I don't play that.

KGL Nero, what questions do you guys ask on the first date? Also, would you guys consider doing the Amazing Race together? Much love. Hey, that'd be a good one. Bad, okay. I ain't going nowhere with you. Ocho, that means we got to drink out the same jug. That ain't going to happen.

That's the first thing you think about. The major race, we going to win. We going to win the major race because of our competitive nature. Do I get my own jug? Yeah,

you got your own jug. Okay, well, we can possibly do it. Golly. Well, we can't go to no desert. You trying to sabotage?

Man, you ought to stop. All I'm going to be thinking about is that you're going to have a cool whip. Cherry ice. Yeah, he's going to have somebody's booty cheeks pulled apart like he's looking through curtains. Hey, we're going to get you there, man. No, we're going to get you nowhere. I'll leave you alone.

Leave me alone. Trust me. I'll leave you alone. You're going to be nasty your whole life? Hey. Clean your life up, Ocho. You want to be the Pope? No. You want to be the Pope or you want to give a woman hope?

Which one? You want to be the Pope or you want to give a woman hope? I want to give her that rope. Damn. and hope. I want to go to that rope. Bam! Man, do you guys, hold on.

Ocho, he said, what do you guys like to ask on a first date? How much? We supposed to ask that question, remember? How much? Huh? Yeah. How much? No, hey. because we supposed to ask that question remember how much huh yeah uh no no hey no what what do you what do you know what do you like to do uh where you from you got the brothers and sisters uh you know you know what what do you do for work you know are you are you from are you from here i ain't asking all that bullshit, man.

That's that old... I ain't got time. That's all that gray area bullshit, man. Man, what's up? What you trying to do? Ah, hell no. We gonna eat, man. What we gonna do?

You trying to... I mean, so you asking... So what you trying to do? You trying to box or throw rocks? Are we barbecuing a meal or doing? All these questions and all this shit. Are you barbecuing in case y'all just going to do? You trying to box or throw rocks? Are we barbecue or the meal doing? All these questions and all this shit. Are you barbecue in case y'all just want to eat? I'm sitting, we at dinner,

we at first date, I'm sitting here pretending like I care, you know, talking about all this bullshit I really don't give a fuck about, like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Man, you trying to fuck or what? What's up? Ocho.

I'm just, come on, man. I mean, you know, Ocho, when I was, you young, you asked that for you. He got time for all that, man. Ocho, I'm 55, you know what I mean? I said, y'all, what we gonna do, you know, Ocho, when I was young, you asked that when you were young. Ocho, I'm 55. You know what I mean? I said, y'all, what are we going to do? You know?

Because you know, I be pocketing Ocho. Come on. Baby. Man, Uncle here talking about first date questions, man. He going, asking all these questions, man. Like, you know, where you like to go, what you like to do. And I'm trying to hear all that shit. What you trying to? where you like to go, what you like to do. And I ain't trying to hear all that shit.

What you trying? I'm trying to flip your ass upside down. Oh, no. I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm going to make you touch every goddamn,

every wall in this goddamn hotel. I ain't what you doing and where you at. You ain't got time for that shit. I'm 55, man. I'm 55.

What are you doing? I got Ocho. I got that. Ocho, come on, man. You know, when you get 55, man, you'm 55. What are we doing? I got, Ocho, I got that. Ocho, come on, man. You know, when you get 55, man, you know you just can't just roll up

and say the same like a 20-year-old, 30-year-old. Yes, you can. Yes, you can. Just, hey, listen. You pop that diamond and you ask the question.

You put it under the tongue, right? That liquid. That liquid you put under your tongue. Yeah, yeah. Put it under your tongue and you ask the question. You got time for all that shit.

All these questions. What if they say no? Huh? Then your stomach hurting. Why would your stomach be hurting? Because when one say no, you got another that's going to say yes. Nah, nah, nah. Next?

I'm going to take it home. I done struck out for the night. That was one. In baseball, it's three strikes. Nah, I got one conversation. I got one day tonight in me. Yeah, boy, you better than me, boy. I'm just saying, back in my day, boy,

I used to have about three, four dates. One night. Yeah. Oh, hell nah. Yeah. Yeah, that's the old me. That's the old me. I can't believe you're asking that.

Talking about what it looking like tonight. Yeah. Come on, man. It's the problem. We start, we start, we start. Like, it's so fake, though. though like you go on a date you ask all these questions you ask all this stuff you really don't care about and you go through the motion just to just to just get the just get oh skip the skip the bullshit skip the book i'm

speaking as as older think about all even the women the women that are in the chat think about all the times you went through what i call the emotions doing everything the right way the dates the wine and dine the blah blah and he reaches the end goal and then boom he's gone oh joe gone you can't ask a woman on you can ask whatever you want depending on who you are some people don't have a choice sometimes you have to go through that it ain't it but i can't ask if you want, depending on who you are. Some people don't have a choice. Sometimes you have to go through that. It ain't in, but I can't ask if you barbecue on a meal, do it on the first night. Well, that's not you.

I ask. And you see, you see where we at now, four years later. The chat calling you Mr. Oh, nasty, not Mr. Nasty, not Mr. Oh, nasty. Man, listen, man, I carry myself in a very classy way. Because it wasn't until this show has opened me up to let this all out.

Yeah. Oh, man. Man. Cuano asks, what's up, Uncle Ocho? Do you guys have any advice for high school seniors looking to play at the next level but not having much luck getting offers? I mean. Fuck that offer, baby. Go where they want you. Yeah.

Go where they want you. If you're getting some offers, what's wrong with the offers that you're getting i mean look the the the reality of ocho when i when you grow and when i mean look i might want to date old girl over here right right right but she ain't interested so what am i supposed to do go chase after somebody that's not interested it. Date the woman that likes you, not the woman that you like. So go to the school that wants you, not the one you want to go to.

Right. Works every time. Every time. What else? What else work every time, Ocho? I can't believe you don't Ocho. Boy, Ocho, you don't send me for it. For what? You. But listen, I'll tell you every time andcho. Boy, Ocho, you don't send me for it. For what? You.

Listen, I'll tell you every time and I'm going to keep on telling you, man, you ain't living. You're living. You're alive, but you ain't living. There's a difference. I'm living, Ocho. Not, Ocho.

You're alive. You're alive. You're doing great things in life. I can't take that from you. You're alive, Ocho, but you ain't living. There's a difference. There's a difference

and I'm going to get you to cross that bridge soon. I ain't got you there yet. Ocho, but you trying to put whipped cream and honey on the fur off the muscle? Man, off the muscle. But we ain't... Listen, tomorrow ain't

promised. What you waiting for? Tomorrow is not promised. What are you waiting for? I mean, what are you looking for i mean if i eat booty on the first night i if something happened to me god ain't gonna let me in the kingdom oh yeah you know they booty they booty you coming here don't worry about it because god damn you know what they were doing back then you know they weren't doing all this they don't do it i don't know who i don't know who started this Listen, there's only one person That can see without anything happening

And that was motherfucking Mary Now everybody else The birds and the bees They done took this thing To a whole new level It ain't no level Listen, listen What I'm talking about

You're a master You got the highest level Not really, what I'm talking about what I'm talking about not really what I'm talking about it's just like technology technology has evolved year in and year out and gotten better with time you got to do the same thing

you still stuck in the goddamn 50s you Fred Sanford in the bed anybody know what these are? What the hell is that? Them Jordans. Them Jordans. I want the people in the chat.

You know what I got? I'm going to start wearing them. It look like somebody drew on them. I used to wear shoes. I mean, I got a nice collection. But what happened is I don't really go anywhere. So I guess now, each night I'm going to have to bring out a pair of my shoes and see if the chat know what these are. Hey, you got you got Jones, but can't who that of that's that's counterproductive. All I know is that I average 30 as a high school senior.

What do you have as a high school senior? Yeah, you average 30 as a high school senior. I'm beating NBA players in one-on-one. There's a difference. There's levels to this. Oh, Joe. It's a difference. Oh, Joe.

I don't... I stopped playing basketball. I ain't played... Oh, Joe. Honestly, I have not played the game of basketball seriously since 1991. This is what you fail to realize.

I don't even play basketball i don't even watch the game of basketball i can't even talk it but i can beat the best at it because i can play the game oh joe i'm not good you know i mean who i ain't listening to who that ain't no accident i mean that't no accident. That is an accident. Look, a mosquito stung you. Look, a big old bump. You know what? That might be, hey, Dr. Peel Pop will pop that thing for you.

Oh, shit. Look, look. Oh, Lord. Ocho, look. What happened? We at 241. Ocho, we... What happened? We at 241, Ocho. We can't be going this long, Ocho. Why you...

Wait. We been on here, what? We been on here 2 hours and 40 minutes? Yes. How the hell? It feel like we just started. We ain't no just started. Wait, I'm curious.

You know what? I don't even know... Listen, I'm on the show and I don't even know the goddamn show format How long are we supposed to do Originally we were supposed to do 60 to 75 minutes

Okay 60 minutes So we're supposed to do an hour No actually Actually Ash just informed me The original version Was supposed to be 25 minutes

For 20 Oh I talked Nigga I could hold a conversation for 25 minutes. We can't do it. That ain't going to work. I talked too damn much for 25 minutes. Clearly, we can't do 25 minutes. Clearly. That's apparent. It doesn't look like we can do an hour either.

An hour ain't enough time. It's too much stuff to talk about. There's something wrong with you though, Ochoa. Hey, we might as well go to I need to chat to pray for you. For what? All that.

Everything I talked about in the chat, probably already doing. And the ones that people are going to act like they not. Hey, you know, I thought I was doing something with the wheelbarrow. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? The wheelbarrow? Yeah, man.

Those people... I done got these hips right. Oh, hell no. But I don't know, Ocho. You're going to a whole new level, Ocho. I see that. Youcho you going to a whole new level Ocho I see that you got him going crazy huh the chat

praying for you Ocho you tried to be a bad influence on Unk he is uh Leon Leon Edwards beat Colby Covington. Yes! We should take up a collection. I'm going to send Leon Edwards.

We're going to find Leon Edwards' information. I'm going to send him five grand. I'm going to send him five grand personally. Who, Julian Edwards? Yep. What round? I don't think he knocked him out. With the decision? Yep.

But just the fact that he whipped his ass. Because all Kobe Covington, he tries to get around. Oh, LeBron James is this. Oh, LeBron James is this. Bro, LeBron James is an NBA player. You should worry about whipping MMA fighters' ass. Beat Kamaru Usman. Beat Leon Edwards. Those are the guys you should beat.

What I look like talking about? Oh, yeah. Messi. I'll beat your ass. Oh, Rafa Nadal. What? ass. Oh, Rafa the Doll.

What? I'm going to send Leon Edwards five grand personally for my account for whipping your ass, Colby Covington. I love this. Beat him. Beat him. Now take that.

What else you got, Ocho? You got any more suggestions for me? To get you some whipped cream. You got whipped cream in the house? No. Baby. I'm diabetic. We got whipped cream left?

Huh? Hey, Ocho. They say you should start your own brand of whipped cream left? Huh? Hey, Ocho. They say you should start your own brand of whipped cream. Nah, I ain't. Nah. I ain't, nah. That's why I see... Man, this is what you're going to do on the first night. I see why you can't shake them.

You doing all this on the first night? Well, you got to understand, the first night... This is... I'm telling you what happened. All this is the result of what's happening here, this foundation that I bought. Ocho, look here. I ain't

got no problem. Look here. Okay, I get it. No, you don't. No, you don't. I get it, Ocho. What I'm just saying, Ocho, I mean, that's like on the first date, you know, so you're taking a female out and you got a thousand dollar meal. Can we build up to it? Ocho, if you want to build, you can get some Legos.

I didn't say it, Ocho. If you want to build, you can get you some Legos. Ocho, I didn't. When you know, you know. If you want a bill, you can get you some Legos. Listen, when you know, you know. See, hey, that one there, when you know, you know. When I know, I know.

Yeah, you know. If you don't know, I'm going to find one for you, and you're going to know. Well, we've been on this thing three hours. don't know to tell you i just i just wish you i'm praying for you me in the chat we're praying for you yeah yeah yeah shoot hey listen i'm i'm praying i'm praying i'm praying i mean i guess you know i'm praying i'm praying for the chat what what the more what the more people say i guess we all standing in the need of prayer we all standing in the need of prayer we all standing in the need of prayer all of us need prayer now that would never go without

we all need prayer always without the shadow of a doubt you pray after you have sex who? you damn you know what no i do who you who you praying to huh i don't know baby lord forgive me yeah i know i was wrong right

i know i was wrong wait hold on hold on hold hold on, hold on. You're praying after sex, but you don't do nothing too crazy, so you ain't did nothing wrong. We gonna need you to evolve and backslide a little bit. Then you gotta ask for forgiveness. Ocho, Ocho, no. It's a builder, Ocho.

Okay, well, God, baby, you're 55. How long you gonna keep building? Let me ask you a question. Were you a first-team All-Pro your rookie year? You had to learn the ropes. Had to learn how to run the routes. Had to learn how to get open. Had to learn how to drop your hips, get in and out of breaks.

You build that up, Ocho. Come on, now. I mean, come on now. Come on now. But the clock is ticking now. Man, I'm 55. You make it seem like I'm 75, 80.

I ain't saying shit. 75, 80. You shouldn't be, this shit, you should be done. Should be what? You should be done. I ain't gonna quit till it quit i got you you right you right you right by that yeah i'm healthy i eat my fruits and vegetables what did you i didn't want to make so do you have that plus one yet? Oh, Joe, I will be straight. I'll be straight. No, right. Bahamas.

When is this? I told you when it is. Are we going to do? Are we going to do a nightcap from the. Oh, we could do nightcap from the way, baby. We can do nightcap from the wedding. She said, yeah, nightcap from the wedding baby we can do nightcap from the wedding she said yeah nightcap from the wedding so it like it gives the people that aren't able to come to the wedding an opportunity to to see our yeah we have we have we have like a hundred thousand in the chat oh easy easy i'm gonna see

i'm gonna be in my suit and she's going to change like three or four times. I styled her dress. I styled her... I'm styling her dress. You did it? I mean, I am. One of her looks.

What's your color? Let me stop. She got the color. I don't know the color combination off the top of my head, but I'm doing one of her dresses, one of her looks. I ain't even know that women are supposed to change two or three times you don't

have to but yeah they do do that i didn't know yeah you got your actual bridal gown you got the reception right right and then they change again so i'm doing the third i'm doing her third look i'm doing a third look so i'm excited i'm excited for you yeah I mean that may be opportunity over there you know I let my hair down you know

there you go there you go you know I'm saying they got they got they got whipped cream in the Bahamas

I've been saving it I've been saving this whole talk for a rainy day Ocho I've been saving it for a rainy day, Ojo. You know what I'm saying, Ojo? You know, I've been saving it.

Let's go. Come on. You know, I've been saving it, Ojo. Hold on, hold on. I'm plugging my computer back in. We about to die. Hey, listen, man. Boy. Boy. Boy. If this ain't the greatest goddamn show.

If this ain't the greatest goddamn show. Boy. My stomach is hurting from laughing. Listen, we can have fun, but then we can be serious too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Because there's something wrong with you, Ocho.

There's something wrong with you. Oh, ain't nothing wrong with me, baby. Ain't nothing wrong with me. Listen, I've adapted. You said that earlier on a topic we were talking about earlier about adapting, adapting to the times. You're not adapting and adapting to the times you're not adapting and evolving with the times you're still using the big ass cell remember the big

big motorola motorola 1800 uh cell phone that's what you're still using you know so what should i be using huh what should i be using well maybe the new android is some shit a new iphone but everything all your life has to evolve and adapt with the times but you stuck way back in goddamn shit well you you stuck when the goddamn manhattan's first came out now joe you know you boy you know you know I'm slow and steady. Yeah, we're going to get you right, though. Now, you slow and steady, but you worse than slow and steady because at 55, I mean, you and you frowning upon just a little, a little. Ain't no little. I mean, you got me. Come on, Ocho.

Damn. All right. We going to stay off that. We going to stay off that. I mean, you get I'm in the right. OK, I ain't in the far right lane, but I'm next to the right lane, which is the slow lane. You're trying to get me to go into HOV.

You should have been in HOV years ago. You ain't even in HOV. You parked on the Meridian. You parked on the Meridian with your goddamn flashes on trying to get over, but the traffic just passing by you. You scared to come out.

I ain't scared, Ocho. You scared to come out. It's okay. We gonna get you there. And yes, they do sell whipped cream in the Bahamas. So, you're gonna be ready. We gonna get you right. Baby! Ladies and gentlemen.

2025? No, fool. 2025. Yeah, it's already set. February? February. Wait, February? February 22nd.

So what's going on the 24th? Huh? What's going on the 24th? No, we're getting february 22nd 2025 oh shit yeah for his perfect perfect perfect time thank you for watching another episode of nightcap i'm your favorite sports on challenge sharp he's your favorite number 85 cincinnati bingo legend ring of famer hall of famer Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson please make sure you hit that like button make sure you hit that subscribe button

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