Club Shay Shay - Nightcap LIVE from Super Bowl Radio Row: Hour 1 - Trevor Lawrence, Jayden Daniels, Sauce Gardner join!

Episode Date: February 5, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson live from San Francisco Radio Row for Super Bowl LX featuring the New England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks! Later, Unc & Ocho are joined by Trevor Lawrence, Jayden Daniels, Sauce Gardner join, and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NIGHTCAP Timeline:00:00 - Intro02:40 - Trevor Lawrence Joins16:00 - Michael Pittman Jr. Joins25:20 - Patrick Willis Joins36:00 - Kyle & Kristin Juszczyk Join51:30 - Jayden Daniels Joins57:00 - Sauce Gardner Joins (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Stigots here. I have a podcast empire that I have brought here to IHeart, and I'm also hosting a daily live radio show from 3 to 5 p.m. Eastern called Stegots & Company Live, which is available in podcast, right when the show finishes every single day. You can expect a lot of laughter, great guests, a ton of calls, and a lot of fun. Listen to Stugats and Company Live and our original podcast, Stugats and Company, and God bless football. And you can check all of those out on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. This show contains information subject to, but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This is your boy, Nav Green, from the Broken Play Podcast. Look, it's the end of the season,

the playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play Podcasts with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs. They're cheese.

It's time to rebuild. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black. Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or whatever you get your podcast. And the winner of the IHeart Podcast Award is, you can decide who takes home the 26 IHeart Podcast Awards Podcast of the year by voting at IHeart Podcast Awards.com now through February 22nd.

See all the nominees and place your vote at IHeart Podcast Awards.com. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. You guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap Radio Row. Y'all know who I am.

I am your favorite uncle. And this is my partner in co-host Liberty City's own. Bingo's Ring of Fame Honorary, a former Pro Bowler and an all pro. He's Chad Ochosinko Johnson. Thank you guys. Thank you so much. You joined us yesterday for Nightcap Radio Row. You followed Ocho around the city yesterday on Twitch.

We can't thank you enough for being right back here. You got Debo and Joe both mornings from 8 to 10 and now it's Ocho and I turn to take it over from 10 to 1. The first guest coming in, y'all know him. He was the number one overall draft pick. And 2021 from Clemson, he's a national champion. In 2025 he threw for 4,0007 yards, 29 touchdowns, 12 interceptions. The Jag went 13 and 4. won the AFC South lost to the bills in the wild card game.

After starting five and four, guess what? This guy helped pull him out of that deficit. And they went on to win the division. Here he is, Trevor Lawrence. What's that, boss? All right, Trev. Before we get into any football talk, tell us what we got here. What we got here?

All right, we got some chips and dips here. Is that edible? It is. It's fresh. They said it's fresh. Now, if I end up getting... Hold on. You got a dip it.

Dip it. Don't do it. I don't do the deal. Hey, Tread, that's guacamole, right? That's quack. What's on the other side? Sausa. You want some?

No, I'm on the diet. I'm on the diet. It's not the McDonald's, huh? There you go. There we go. What kind of chip for these? They taste different. What's question about them?

I don't know what's special about the chip. We're here with Zivo. So we got all of our food, hosting Super Bowl parties, living in Florida, come in and out when you're hosting a party. You get all the flies in the house. You plug this up in your kitchen. Yeah. Takes care of them for you.

So it's a big. It's an essential in our house. So this is a Zibo flying insect trap. House fly, fruit flies, gnats, and more mosquitoes. No chemicals, insecticides. So I just plug this into the wall. And they fly into this? It has a blue light.

So it attracts them, and then it has a sticky inside. Oh, oh, okay. They fly into it. You know what? I can attest to this product because I have Zivo. Baby, baby, tell them we got the little Zivo, right? But I use it for the fruit flies. I have a problem with food flags.

I'm not sure. Where they come from, Treb? You're in Miami. I know, but I have the same thing. Set the fruit out and they're just after a day. Treve, I don't even had no fruit at the house. That's the problem. I don't have no fruit and they come out of nowhere, but this Zivo has been able to help me

tremendously trying to get rid of food flies because I'm not sure what the blue light does. I don't understand the technology behind it. I don't really either, but it works. Insects like light. Yeah. It's like moths and mosquitoes. They go to the flame. They go to a hot light you see.

They're flying around. Sounds right. And so when this lights up, it traps them inside. So this is what Trevor Lawrence is promoting. It's called Zebo Flying Insect Trap. What you do? You plug it in 24-7 max. It has a cord?

No, you just plug it in. Oh, okay. So it just sits against the wall. So how long will they last? They said, I mean, you'll see it gets full. You can look in there. Oh, okay. So you have to change it out.

So you just slide this side and put another way in. It's kind of like those, you know what it's like, you know what it's like, it's kind of like those plug-ins. Yes. For those aromas. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you just keep plugging them in. Treb, unbelievable bounce back season.

Your first season on the new head coach Liam Cohn, he's also called the plays. What was different this year for you as opposed to in years past? Yeah, I mean, I think the system that were running is completely different than anything I've had before. it gives you, I mean, it gives you a lot of answers as a quarterback. It's, it's tougher to learn on the front end just because, you know, we got two, three plays at the line almost every time we break the huddle. So it puts a little bit more, so like in the spring and in training camp, it was a little tough to learn.

But then once the season started, I really felt like I started to get comfortable with it as the season went on. So you're running good plays versus the right look. I mean, that's the idea of all the, you know, it's a good system if you ask me. So I think that getting comfortable with that. And then Liam's been great, just the way he led the team, his personality. is perfect for Jackson. He's got that chip on his shoulder. And I think our team really embodied that and bought into it. As great as you guys look offensively, and I always say it, I said it throughout the season

when Travis Hood went down, you guys had the Ferrari in the garage for most of the season. And still. Travis Hunter. Excuse me, Trapp, Travis Hunter. I call it, the Ferrari being in the garage. And offensive, you guys still look extremely good throughout the majority of the season without him. How optimistic are you that you guys will be able to continue to build once he comes back, healthy offensive.

Super optimistic. I mean, you look at, like you said, I mean, I think people kind of forgot that he's on our team because he got hurt and we started really clicking. He wasn't on the field and he was injured. But think about having him that's going to be back next year, both sides of the ball. He's such a key player. I mean, he's going to be a huge help for our team. And then you look at the guys that stepped up. I think that's the cool thing is guys stepped up that maybe, like, Parker Washington,

maybe a lot of people didn't know much about before the season. Nice. I've played with him for a couple years. I've known what he's capable of. Obviously, he hasn't gotten those opportunities until this year, but being able to step up and have a guy that can just come in and play and take off the rest of the season. I mean, he played awesome, proud of him, and just all of our guys.

Obviously, BT coming back. You know, Britain's Strange. We got Jacoby who we picked up, however through the season. Jacobi Myers was one of the biggest additions that we've had. What he brought to our team in our receiver room, just that mindset, and he does all the little things. Like, he blocks. He runs all, I mean, he can run every route.

He's selfless. I think all those things. He was a great leader for that room. I think you've had like three different officers coordinators in a very short time. And you hear a lot of people say, man, look, it wears on a quarterback because he's in a system for basically one year. He has to learn another system for two years. And then he has to learn a third system. How different is the system that Liam run as opposed to some of the system that you've had earlier in your career?

It's very different. This system, you know, with obviously Liam and Sean McVeigh and all these. It's now it's kind of spread. There's a lot of teams that are running it now, and I've never been in it until we got Liam. And I've heard great things about it, but I didn't really know what it was like. So now having it, I can definitely say it's really cool because you learn so much. I've learned in the past year I've learned so much more about scheme, like what we're trying to do, why we're putting in a play this way, why we're using this motion to try to undress the pressure or the coverage.

I mean, there's so many things that, you know, as a quarterback, that you have to be taught that I just didn't know before because that's the way that the system does it and the way you build your game plan. So give them a lot of credit for that. It's a lot different than anything I've had and just having the ability as the quarterback to get out of place, to have options,

you know, to have the freedom to get into the right play. It feels really good. Do you ever, because we used to do, I know Ocho, I talked about it. Have you ever like, man, I sure wish y'all was in that system because I see that quarterback and I see the numbers he's putting up. I damn sure could put numbers up like that if I had a system like that.

I think definitely, you know, you talked about the start of my career in the first four years and just the change, new coaches, new coordinators, new play callers. I've had, you know, four play callers since I've been in the league in five years. And you do look at things and you're like, man, I know, I know I have the ability and I know I can do all these things. And you do want things to line up and you want to feel like you're set up for success. And I've had good coaches in the past. not to knock any coaches, but it's just, I think naturally you do look at other situations like,

man, and it feels good to be now with Liam and the system and feel like we have an advantage with our system and the things that we're doing our game plan. Going into the game, we feel like we have the advantage, which is a huge thing as a player. If you can feel that and you feel confident, you can just go out and play because you trust it's going to work. You know, one of the things I always think about is being able to maximize the player's potential is obviously always having continuity and having a familiarity with the system. And when you have to switch coordinators, you have to switch play callers every season. To me, it almost makes you take a step back in a sense because there's always something new that you're having to learn.

Right now, where you are in your career, do you have the freedom when you come to the line and you see the defense, do you have the freedom even though you have multiple players called at one? Do you have the freedom to change it to something that you like? Do you have that freedom yet? Yeah, you know, it depends on the situation, what plays called, but definitely. I mean, there was some stuff towards the end of the season where we'd say it could be a run play. Anytime I think we get man coverage, we can check to any of our man beaters and just get out of it, which is great as a quarterback because you're like, I know it's man, but we're running, we're running mid-zone, which is fine.

We'll probably get a decent game, but like, why wouldn't we run some crossers, mesh play, and we get a chunk. Because you know it's, because you're not going to, it's very rare that you just, you can call the play knowing exactly what they're playing. And when you can do that, you're at such an advantage. So they've given me the freedom to when I see that, I can get to what I want because you know what you're getting. And I, you know, I think that's really cool.

Yeah, that's a huge advantage when you have a quarterback that has allowed the freedom to be able to do what some of the greats have done. Because what the greats have always been able to have done is to understand what they see in front of them and be able to change, especially when you have the right personnel, which you do have, to be able to get into something you like. We got man to man. I mean, I got VT out there.

Man, we changed in this. If you were to put your GM cap on, I've asked every player we've had on here, if you were able to put your GM cap on and say, what we need, whether it's offensively, whether it's defensively, or maybe even special teams that can get us over the hump. So we can be in the conversation and being in games like this next year being L.A., what would you do?

You said if I have my GM here? If you put your GM hat. You put your GM hat. You're not Trevor Lawrence, the player. Oh, man, that's a good question. Resigned 18. That's a great start. That's my guy.

I've been with them eight years. I mean, you're headed to college. Eight years, yeah. So I'm hoping we get to turn. Travis back. I mean, he's, he's great player. I'm hoping we get him back. So that's a great starting point. I think you look at our team. We have some guys that are free agents. So you got to figure out who's going to come back, who's going to be a part of it. I think obviously the year we had and what we were set up to do fell short in the wild card. But we feel really good about our team

and how we matched up. I don't feel like we ever stepped on the field and we're like, man, this team's better than us. Didn't ever feel that way. So you want to try to get as many guys as as possible back, but it's not always realistic. So I don't even know if I could put my GM hat on. I don't know how the salary cap works. It's going up, I don't know that. So we get fined and we got a great owner that's willing to do what it takes to keep guys around. So I'm hoping we get all that figured out.

Travis would be awesome to keep. And then I think you look at our defense, lose some guys. Devin Lloyd's a free agent. He had a great year. I mean, you look at what he did. He was, I mean, arguably the best linebacker in the league. So got some stuff to figure out. And I think there's guys that are a key part of what we're doing.

But at the end of the day, you know, I don't make those. decisions, but I think we have the relationship in our building where our input is value. Yeah. We'll see what happens. Especially your input. Yeah, no doubt. So how the purple hurricane is going to do this year? Do you go back to Carter'sville, huh?

I don't know about Carter'sville. I'm hoping good, man. You and Ronnie Brown, Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie. Oh, Ronnie's the man. Ronnie's the man. Yeah, he's, I'm hoping good. We need to get back, get another state championship. It's been a little while, so we played in a couple, but we need to win one.

You know what you're going to get you out on this. Now, your name, when they talk about great quarterbacks in the AFC, Trevor Lawrence gets mentioned because of Liam Cohen comes in there and what you've been able to do this season. So the Patrick Mahomes and the Joe Burroughs and Lamar Jackson's and the Josh Allen. And guess what? Trevor Lawrence, is that what you've always hoped for? Because a lot of things like, man, look, this guy was the number one consensus.

From the day he stepped foot on Clemson, everybody said three years from today, he'll be the first player. elected in the NFL draft. So you've had a lot of pressure, and you've met those expectations. You went to college. You won a national championship as a true freshman. Doesn't happen very often. You get back, but you ran into that historic great 2019 LSU team,

the first one to pick in the draft and you had some success. What do you have? You walk the charges down there with up 20 to 27-0, and you walk them down. So now to hear people the way they talk about you now, as opposed to the way they talked about you in the past, does that make you feel good like you know what I'm turning the corner I'm starting to be the player that I thought I could become yeah I think it's man people have said a lot of stuff about me for a long time so I try not to at this point no I try not to listen too much of it I know I've seen I mean you asked people a year ago people thought I suck so I mean I don't think you can listen to too much I've always known what I'm capable of and it's been frustrating at times you know obviously I haven't played as well as I know I can but now having the foundation in place the confidence in what we're doing, the system, the scheme, our personnel, got a lot of great players.

I have a lot of confidence in that. And for me, it's not about what people think if I'm in that conversation or not. It's just about winning games. But naturally, when you win, that happens. So I'm proud of what we were able to do this year, not for people to say that, you know, I'm one of the better quarterbacks in the league, but just because our team is one of the better teams in the league. And that's what happens when you play well as a team and you have to play well at the quarterback position. So naturally that stuff's going to happen.

And hopefully next year we have another conversation and playing in this game. Here we go. Here we're talking. But as much fun as it is talking to you guys. You want to be in, he want to be in this game. No doubt. So here you is quarterback Jacksonville Jaguars promoting Zbo, the flying insect trap. Trevor Lauren.

Thanks for stopping about me. Appreciate it. Don't forget that put that word in for me to come back. All right. I appreciate it. I don't know you want to go. No, I want to play. You want to play?

Yeah, I want to play. You got a couple snaps in you? No, let's go. Yeah, he got a couple of them. A block duo. Insert for the safety. There we go. Perfect. Appreciate you.

Thank you. Ready? All right. Next coming to the Colts, rise receiver. He's a 20-20-second round pick out of USC. This season, 80 catch at 784 yards,

seven touchdown. The Colts finished 8, 9, 3rd, the LFC. Man, the dream season, it started off so great for him. They were 8 and 2 to start the season. The quarterback gets injured, and they lost seven in a row. Michael Pittman, Jr.

How you doing, bro? Do you what they do, babies? How are you guys? Went good. see you. Yes, sir. Like wise. Boy, you had that great start.

Y'all were 8 and 2 riding high. You're the number one seed in the AMC at the time. And then your quarterback gets injured. And you tried a lot of different things. You end up getting Phillip Rivers off his couch after five years. But how disappointing was it for you guys? You see a promising season basically go down the drain because of an injury to your quarterback.

Yeah, I mean, obviously it's tough. I mean, like just like hearing that back again, man. It was like we thought we were on our way to playoff run, AFC's house, or South. I mean, everything was just out there. And just the fact that it came kind of almost like crashing down, like after like Dan got hurt. But just know that he's coming back and we still have that same core guys

and that we feel like we could do the same thing again. So and then God willing that everybody stays healthy because we had a string of bad luck with, you know, like just like with like our DBs, with obviously Daniel, so, so like it, you know. You know, even as a player, how surprised were you? Because even I was a surprise, how surprised were you that when Daniel James, Daniel Jones came in as a quarterback, everything changed?

He looked like a damn generational talent. He changed everything around about that franchise, especially with the way you guys are playing at the beginning of the season before his injury. Absolutely. I mean, I wasn't so shocked because, because, like, the way that he showed up, like, just like in camp, like we were doing that. So, and then we went to like joint practices and we were still doing that. So, so it didn't really shock me. Um, going eight and two, like, like, now I didn't necessarily see that. Yeah. So like when like we went on that run, I'm like, oh shit. Like just like,

you know what I'm saying? Like just like, we like got a squad. Right. And our offense was rolling at like historic pace. Yes. And, and we thought we were on to something. And then like I said, injuries. It all comes crashing down, but we got to find ways to win, like, no matter what, because, you know, like, there's lots of teams that... I'm Dylan Playfair. And I'm Tyler Smith. We're putting loneliness in the penalty box by talking to some of our favorite athletes about the importance of friendship. This is Bromance. Bromance is brought to you by Charm Diamond Centers, proudly Canadian-owned and operator. Charm has been part of your love stories and bromances for over 50 years.

And you can find Bromance on the IHeart Radio Network or wherever you get your podcast. Stygots here. I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow. And I have brought it here to IHart. I'm also doing a live radio show from 3 to 5 p.m. Eastern because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house. It's called Stugats and Company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes every single day. Some of the biggest names in sports.

A lot of phone calls. I love you guys' this show. It's one of my favorites. A lot of interaction. Guys not. taking themselves too seriously. Those are just some of the things that you can expect from Stugats and Company and Stugats and Company Live.

So listen to Stugats and Company Live and our original podcast. Please subscribe, rate, and review. Stugats and Company and God bless football, Taylor's livelihood depends on it. Do it today. And you can check all of those out on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And the winner of the IHeart Podcast Award is You can decide who takes home the 26 IHeart Podcast Awards

Podcast of the year by voting at IHeartPodcastawards.com Now through February 22nd. See all the nominees and place your vote at IHeart Podcast Awards.com. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com.

Battle that, you know. I think that the 49ers struggling with, like, injuries and they were able to make a nice run. So we just got to find ways to get it done, like, regardless. Yeah, and you look at you guys offensively. You got Jonathan Taylor can run the football. Your self-pierce, you got worn it, tight-in. Your offensive line was a little banged up,

but you still have an outstanding offensive line. What do you guys, how do you? And because this is a very tough division now. Oh, yeah. You got to Houston, Texas. You got the Jags. You guys are in that division. You see they made a change in Tennessee with their coaching staff,

with their coaches staff. And so now this division, what, you know, maybe it would take, you know, 10 games to win the division. It's probably going to take 12, 13 games to win this division moving forward unless something unforeseen would have happened. Absolutely, yeah. I mean, just knowing that there's some really good defenses in the AFC South right now, I mean, Houston's like defensive front, I mean, and they're like DBs now.

Crazy, crazy. So just know that, you know, like, it's going to be a battle, like, every time that we play those teams, them, the Jags and Tennessee, like, is coming up, you know. Like, I think that Cam Ward is a really talented guy, and I think they're going to build kind of, like, just, like, around him. And, like, I think that he's going to keep getting better, too. So it ain't going to be easy. You guys lost Seattle, 1816. Yeah. And everybody that has come on here, they have picked the Seahawks to win the Super Bowl.

Yeah. What makes them so good on both sides of the football? because you have an up-close look. You're on the field against their defense. You're on the sideline watching their offense. What makes them so good? I think they play really good complimentary football, and I think they don't make a lot of mistakes, right?

Like, I think that they're well-coached. I think that their defensive line is, like, really good. Obviously, Sam is playing great. I mean, Jackson Smith is putting up crazy that number. So they kind of got, like, the full package, and, like, I kind of am, like, leaning towards them, too. same. Yeah, I think it's going to be an unbelievable game.

I think the thing is people that might be selling the Patriots a little short. Because, you know, they don't have the big name. They don't have a guy like a Jackson. They don't have, you know, Sam, I mean, and Drake May is going in the MVP discussion. We'll find out tonight who wins the MVP. Yeah. For me, if I had a vote, I probably would have voted for Matthew Stafford. Oh, yeah.

You know, considering what he's done. But they're going to be right there. And you mentioned that defense. But you guys, I mean, they did a number. But if you go back and look at them in the postseason, they've done an unbelievable job on a lot of teams. But you're able to, it was a very, very close ball game. What do you think some of the things that the Patriots can do to take advantage

because, like you said, they're very good. They're a very, very spoon and wholen. And then you got love. And then you got, I mean, they're good at all three levels. Yeah. I mean, like, I think the biggest thing that helped us was Philip was getting us, like, in the right place. And I don't know how, like, there was one, I think it was a,

third down where they showed like a like all out blitz and they ran up like just like on our on our on our on our on our hard count yeah they like ran up and showed blitz and like I'm like okay like just like they're like just like they're like just like all of them are bringing it right and then philip changes it to a to a to a to a um to a zone to a zone play so like just like I'm just like I'm like yo bro I just like like just like they are bringing the house and And then, like, he snaps it and all of them just back out. Like, I was like, I have no idea, like, how we knew. You've seen that? Because they all came so hard, like, on that, like, hard count.

So, yeah. You have one year left on your deal. Yes. You know, and your name did come up in some trade talks at the trade deadline. Is there something, would you like to, would you like to secure something long term? You got a huge cap number? They're probably going to look. I'm not breaking news to you.

I'm sure you and your representative have looked. that best. If there are possibility, would you like to stay in Indy or whatever, whatever works best for the team and the work works best for Michael Pittman Jr.? I'm amenable to him. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, obviously Indy is my home and like I've built like a lot of stuff there and like I would love to stay but just know that NFL ball can take you places that, you know, like you never thought that you yeah, right? And sometimes like that can be better. but I am planning on being here in indie until somebody tells me that I'm not

so I'm all in like with the Colts and I hope it to stay that way. I hope it stays that way too because I understand how valuable you are for that team and that franchise and that offense so I'm hoping it does happen. Who are you here representing? Yes, so I am here on behalf of Orleby

the official toothbrush of the NFL so we actually got our guy Blue Blue here. He's got the biggest white of Blue. Thanks to the IOS series toothbrush. Uh-huh. Blue. So he's just getting it in. He's got the perfect smile from the perfect... Hey.

So... Hey, Blue, I appreciate that, baby. They got you got a beer, too, on you? I ain't got no beer. It looked like me though. And they got the Cardiades right. Yeah. Yo. There you go, Blue.

Hey, Blue, I appreciate that, Blue. Yes, sir. That's live. I like that. Actually, I actually use O or B. Though that's the only true. Yeah, I've used OREB for. It's dope. It's the best.

Actually, I think I use, it might be, I don't know if it's a soft or medium. I think it's a 60 soft or 60 medium. There you go. Clearly I know what I'm talking about because I'm giving you the soft. Absolutely, absolutely.

It's like the soft, like bristles, like just like are the best. Yeah, yeah. This is unbelievable. I appreciate this. Hey, Ocho, they got a chain and everything. Look at the chain. Hold on.

I see the chain. You don't see the soccer jersey, though. I'm going to talk about detail. They're detailed. Chad, is this me? They did me right. They did me right because that's how I look when I laugh. Oh, man, this is unbelievable.

Mytha, thank you, man. Congratulations, continued success. Hey, you're going to be where you're supposed to be, but all you do, once you get there, show up and show out. That's it. Absolutely. I appreciate that guy. Do me small favor.

When I had that wider workshop, I hope to see you. Okay, yeah. I hope to see you. Come politics with the fellas, man. I'll pull up. Love. Yes, sir, I appreciate that. Oh, you like this, though.

Appreciate you, bro. Man, that's unbelievable. She said, hold it up one more time. What water this? Mr. Shaw, how's that right? They do, way? How's it going? Man, life is good.

I can't complain. Yes, sir. You good? Doing great. Doing great. I can't complain. Most definitely. Joining us now,

Pro Bowl lineback, a Hall of Famer. For the San Francisco 49ers, five deuce. Bam Bam. Ole Miss. He was very excited for his college team because they did make it advance to the college football playoffs.

They were very, very close to advancing into the national championship game. Here you is, ladies and gentlemen. Patrick Willis. Pat, what's going on, bro? Doing fabulous. Doing fabulous. Thank you guys for having me.

I can't believe him up here right now, man. Aside you guys. I see you guys like almost every night, man. Pat, tell him that story, man. I forgot what game was. You know, I ran him over. I caught him tripping on. Now you can tell him.

Pat, you're telling it's okay? No, no, I do remember, though, a lot of people don't know that. Chad is one who actually gave me the nickname Bam Bam. Because you had the club on. So did. My rookie year, either my rookie year or second year, we was going to ready to play at Cincinnati. And you was talking about me or not. I just wanted to say, I really appreciate that's your stick to this day.

Yeah, most definitely, most definitely. I'd never forget. What's the name of the stadium we played in? I can't remember the name. Candlestick? Yeah, candle stick. Yeah, candle stick back then? Yeah, that was my first, and I think maybe my last time ever being here outside of this visit now.

So I haven't been here since. And the city's awesome. The city's awesome. I really never had a time to come here and experience the city and, you know, travel and go around. The people are nice, very receptive to my I love you. So, boy, I enjoyed it so far. I love the Bay Area. Let me ask you this.

What's going on with all the injuries in San Fran? Because every year you guys have injuries, and they're the key players. And sometimes you know, look, look. You lost your quarterback for a period of time, but Mac Jones came in and played exceptionally well. You lose Bolsa for the entire season. I think Warner goes down and he misses like 10 games of the season. Williams, Big Trent, T-dub, he goes out for a period of time. He comes back.

George Kittle misses time with a hamstring comes back. Terres the Achilles. What's going on with the injuries in Sam Fran? Man, Sharp, that's a great question. What I'll say is, we all know that this game of football can, it's tough. You know, it's rough on the body. And those guys have played a lot of football. They've played a lot of football.

And so I'm one of those type of people that I also do analysis, meaning like, you know, you hope you have a career where you never have any injuries. But at the same time, man, if you played a lot of football, you're going to have some injuries. These years are wearing terrible. Yeah, it feels up. And those guys, and those guys, I don't want, they're not over. I'm not calling them old, but they got some miles. They got some miles on their body.

In football years, they're old. So when I look at it, I just kind of look at it as one of those things that how everything kind of ebbs and flows. Like they're just in that period of right now. They just got some older guys who played a lot of football, and they just, that's what comes with it. But I have heard a lot about, you know, the different conversations and stuff. Pat, when you play, look, obviously you go to the Super Bowl in 2012,

You play the Ravens and you guys came with a throwaway. When you look back on your career, is there anything you wish you could have done differently? Is there anything you, I mean, you retired, but you weren't that open. Pat, you were, what was it? Eight? Yeah, and you walked away from the game at 29 years of age. Why? Why?

Truthfully, it was a conversation I had with myself in the beginning before I ever started playing this. It was a conversation I had with myself my rookie year. I said everything that starts has the end. And I remember seeing guys who were being young and being a fan of the sport, you've seen guys who just, I'm like, man, why are you staying? Why are you still out there? It doesn't like you want to give it everything you have. And I was a big fan of, like, listen, if you're out here and you ain't giving it everything you have,

I don't care what name you have or who they put in front of you. I'm not a fan of yours. I might be a fan of the special team guys that's getting everything that you got. So I just remember getting to that point. And I didn't know it would come this fast, but I just remember getting to that point to where my body, my feet were hurting. The biggest thing with the corporate was my feet, them big toes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It got to the point where I could even go through a walk-through without having to put numbing cream on. I remember Kassim, man. He was my best friend one season. One season he was with us because he didn't. introduced me to this numbing cream and it helped for a while but it just got to the point to where it was just taking more out of me and I remember the conversation I had with myself and and God and it was almost like one of the things where the hardest thing in life sometimes to do is to be

honest with yourself yes and I just felt it looked around me and I said you know what it's it's it's time to step away before you mess around and start getting to the point to where they started seeing it and they started looking at them all right how can we get how can we get how can get rid of him and I know I didn't have it in my body to go anywhere else and to give that kind of love to give that kind of heart that I had given to San Fran. I mean as you just said talking about the stadium candlestick is not there anymore and it feels it feels like in a disbelief like somebody that took my heart or something and just just said we're just going to crush it and just don't encourage you played here and so that was home for me as difficult at that decision

is especially with the body the mind knows what to do but the body doesn't react the body's not feeling the same way where you know I can't go out here and give it my all. The transition and the having to leave and walk away from the game, how has that transition been for you mentally? Ooh, we. Yeah. I'll say this, man. We all go through that dark night of the soul where you find yourself in that space of

like, all right, you say like, I'm all good, but you know deep down inside, you're like, man, like, what is going? Oh, nothing just feels like it connects because I realize, and someone asked me, I realized that football, it's not everything. It's not everything is a bit of part of your life. But it's the ambilical cord to life, like, for a lot of us. It really is.

And so I noticed, like, the last couple years, I've been fortunate to be back around the Niners after dibbling, dabbling in the entrepreneurial world and a little bit, you realize, like, shit, it's hard to build businesses out here. It's hard to build something that's going to sustain, to the point of where you can be comfortable and just, you know, like, make money. Yeah, make money.

And so what I learned in being back around in Niners was just the everything that, 100 years of business, so 75 years of business and what it takes. And then just working with people who are, what we've come to know now as in my financial literacy talk, we call him, is he just a guy? Is he a pro bowler or is he an all pro? and I was trying to do things with people that meant well, but they were just guys. Just the guy.

And we know what it's like when you're on a team and not speaking down to anyone, but if you've got a team just full of guys, yeah, you might. You can only get so far. But you're only get so far. And so I say all that to say, man, the journey has been, it's been crazy.

If I say it's been absolutely easy, even though I made the decision, I'll be lying to you. I just get up each day to the, each day the Lord wakes me up, I just, I'm grateful because of so many reasons of where I come from, everything I've had to overcome to get to just play football.

And then really the hardest part is, I think football was actually, the world got different, it got harder after football. And so just to be able to be up here talking to you guys and be able to converse on it, like, I'm grateful. That's dope. That's a lot. Patrick Willis, ladies and gentlemen, all-pro, Hall of Fame linebacker from the San Francisco 49ers.

What you got? Oh, oh, before I go, before I go, Before I go, I wanted to let everybody know that it's going down tomorrow at Lucky Strikes. We're doing Go Bowling, so everybody, they won't. Let me stop this. Tomorrow is going down at Lucky Strikes. Go Bowling and the NFL Alumni Association is hosting attendees. We'll be going at it.

We'll be competing. But we want everybody to go to gobolling.com and sign up and get you a free game. I ready. Go bowling.com. Hey, you know, I can bowl a 300. What? Three? I could bowl, yeah, I'm 300.

Man, let me see it. I was on the pro circuit. Let me see it. I was on the pro circuit back in 97. Okay. Let me see it. Patrick Willis, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you to Matt.

Let's see you guys. You guys keep doing what you doing. Yes, sir. Thank you. Man, them toes ain't nothing to play with. Oh, yeah. I can get a chance to say, but your brother, your brother. Sure.

That's my God. Appreciate you. That was the honor to see him. Appreciate that, Pat. Thank you. Me? Okay. Oh, okay.

Kyle and Tristan. Okay. Fellas, when you both played in the Super Bowl, or when they come? Fellas, when you both played in the Super Bowl, how did you handle the week leading up to the game, mentally, physically, and emotionally? What was your approach like?

Y'all doing my approach? like I'm strictly business. I was here to win a football game. The Super Bowl, the festivities are for the people that come. The game is for us. The game is not going to happen until Sunday. So I didn't care about who was having a party, what celebs was coming in town,

what this or what that was. That had no, that wasn't for me. That was for my family. That was for all the people that was coming for the Super Bowl festivities. The Super Bowl, the game itself, that was for me. The families are getting in today. The families are arriving today. Now, the way we did it, Mike said, look, and Brian did the same thing.

You can go to the family hotel, but your family cannot come here. We're not going to have kids running up and down the hallway, even though your kids, you think your kids are cute and cuddly. Everybody don't think your kids are cute and cuddly. Some of the guys want to rest. Some of these guys, hey, come on here. We'll talk about this later. man.

How are you doing, bro? What are you doing, bro? How are you doing, bro? Nice to meet you. Ah. What up, twin? What are you? What are you?

Joining us now is Kyle and Kristen Youth Check. The 49th is fullback 2013 fourth round pick out of Harvard. Yes, sir. You went to Harvard too? Yes. Hey, he's one of our most famous alumni.

Thank you. Kyle, I try to tell him all the time I was there. They never believe me. So I'm glad you're here. to attest a day. I've seen your picture on the wall. Thank you. A Raven.

I also like to sell people I went to Harvard. A fourth round drive pick from Harvard. He started his career with the Ravens, 2013 to 2016, and now he's present with the 49ers from 2017 until present. We just had Patrick Willis on here, and you know, he retired at 29 years of age. He said the injury, his toes had just taken his toll on him. The injuries this year, you get, Purdy goes down. Matt Jones played really well, keep you guys afloat.

Kiddle hurts his hamstring. He misses some time, comes back, tears his Achilles. T. Dub, T. Dub, he goes down. I mean, Bosa, he goes down. Fred Warner, he goes down. How were you able, the injuries, that's one thing, but how were you guys able to keep this thing afloat while so many injuries were piling up?

Yeah, you know what? I really think it comes down just to the culture that we've built in San Francisco. And it truly is that next man-up mentality, and it sounds cliche, and nobody wants to hear it, but I really do think that we've set this standard that when guys go down, like, they know, okay, I need to be up to this standard if I want to stick around here. So I think we just did a really good job of having that standard and guys were ready to meet it when they got their opportunity. The funny thing I always wanted to ask, I've watched you play many of years, the value that you bring to a team.

If you think about the game and how the game has evolved and now it's a passing league, being a fullback, but that's the funny thing. you're not just a fullback. They can put you in the slot. Hell, they can line your ass up out wide and you can actually run routes just like you. He fooled about like y'all there. But how did you get yourself to a point

where you're so valuable to any of the 32 teams that you would play on? Yeah. Despite the game evolving the way it has. Forever, dating all the way back to high school. Yes. My thing has always been versatility and being able to adapt.

And as a fullback, you better be able to adapt because each year, you kind of you got to find something that you're adding value to. Yes. And every year of my career has been different. Like there were a few years back in Baltimore where I mean, I was really playing short yardage goal line. And then that's not enough to just have a roster spot. So you better play deep or you better play special team.

And then I became a third down running back. Yes. So I started, you know, I learned all the protections. And so every year, I've had to find that niche of like, all right, what does this team need this year? Right. And how can I feel that? And it's just been a strength of mine. And I think that's a big part of my...

I'm Dylan Playfair. And I'm Tyler Smith. We're putting loneliness in the penalty box by talking to some of our favorite athletes about the importance of friendship. This is bromance. Bromance is brought to you by Charm Diamond Centers, proudly Canadian-owned and operator.

Charm has been part of your love stories and bromances for over 50 years. And you can find Bromance on the IHartRadio Network or wherever you get your podcast. To God's here. I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow. And I have brought it here to IHart.

I'm also doing a live radio show from 3 to 5 p.m. Eastern because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house. It's called Stugatsy Company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes every single day. Some of the biggest names in sports. A lot of phone calls. I love you guys this show. It's one of my favorites. A lot of interaction. Guys not taking themselves too seriously.

Those are just some of the things that you can expect from Stu Gotson Company and Stugats and Company Live. So listen to Stugats and Company Live and our original podcast. Please subscribe, rate and review. Stugats and Company and God bless football. Taylor's livelihood depends on it. Do it today. And you can check all of those out on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And the winner of the IHeart Podcast Award is,

You can decide who takes home the 26 IHard Podcast Awards, podcast of the year by voting at IHartPodcastawards.com now through February 22nd. See all the nominees and place your vote at IHartPodcastawards.com. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen.

Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. I long should be in this league. Christine, you did the better half of this gentleman right here. You attend every single game. I do. Road home, overseas, Alaska, it does not matter. Why is it so important for you to be at every single one of his game? Yeah, well, there's so many reasons.

I mean, it's such a short-lived career, and we know that these are our glory days, and I never want to miss out on just these special moments. Being there, we've had so many amazing moments. I mean, there was a moment in Seattle that, me and Claire Kittle, who I traveled all the games with, we actually got a seat in the end zone, and we were first row in the end zone.

George scores, and he jumps into the suite with us. The next drive, Kyle scores in the end zone, jumps into the suite with us, and those memories are just burned into our souls, and that's the reason why we go. One of the things I do want to ask also is we never get to see the two. We never get to see the union. How are you able to balance the work

and also keep a healthy balance in a relationship? Yeah. To be honest, I think for us, to just come so naturally. It's not something that we really needed to work on. We just genuinely like spending time with each other and loving each other. And I think that's my biggest piece of advice for relationships. Like, if it's real work, then that's not the right person for you.

Right, right. I think it should come natural. Say that again. If it's not what? If it's real work, it's not the right person for you. It's beautiful. People always say that marriage is so hard. We always look at each other.

We're like, read the marriage books. I'm like, if you've got to read a book on marriage, you're not married to the right person. I like that. Okay. Like, because, you know, me and aunt, we think about getting married in 2027 having a dual wedding. You know, you know. I love it. Yeah, we love it too.

You need an officiator? I think you guys. You need an officiant? We need therapists. We need therapists. And the fact that you guys haven't figured out, you could counsel us. We got you. I'd like to add that to my resume.

But you hear this a lot, Claire, and you can speak to this. This is more so because you're going to do what you do. You understand you got practice. We understand we got a meeting. I got to live. I got to watch tape. Talk about the sacraming. that the significant other, girlfriend, wife, whatever the case may be, that they have to make,

because there are a lot of times he can't go to PTA. There's a lot of times he can't go to recitals. There's a lot of times he can't pick the kids up. And you have to do that, but you have to be accepting because sometimes people, the partner gets upset. Why you can't do it? Well, can you go run and go route? Can you go sack the quarterback and then we'll switch rolls for a second? Talk about some of the sacrifices that you have to make to keep this because you're

You're the rock. You're the foundation piece because you keep his mind at ease because he knows everything is taking care at home. Well, to be honest, I think that's the main reason why we haven't had children yet. To be honest, because I think I want him to be able to spend those late tonight at the facility if he needs to get extra rehab. I don't want him to feel like he needs to come home and have to take care of things. I want, again, it's a short-lived career.

I want him to be selfish. I won't ever want him to look back at this period of his life and think, I wish I did more. or I wish I did this. So we've kind of pushed that off and we know we have our whole lives to have a family together. And I have my own career path as well and he's been incredibly supportive on that.

I think that, to be honest, is the perfect recipe. If you're sitting at home and you're constantly waiting for him to come home is I think when maybe animosity builds up. So for me, I'm working and trying to build my own dreams and my own career.

So when he comes home, we're just happy to share what our day has been like with each other. Did you hear what she said? She understands a sacrifice. She understands what goes into it. She understands what it entails to actually be a NFL player. Once you have someone that understands the sacrifices and get it,

you know what, maybe I get it. We're going to put certain things on the back burner because I know this is what you have to do. This is what comes first. Absolutely. It was his dream since he even knew the word football. So I would never want to take anything away from that. And we've heard this, Ocho and I, we both heard this.

But you say you understand and you want that, But do you realize how much of a sacrifice that it entail before you got with this gentleman? I don't think it's that much of a sacrifice. I think he's following his dreams and it's admirable. Like he really did, like, I wake up every day. He's so happy to go to work. I love my job. I love my job, man.

The fact that he even calls it work is hilarious. And so to be honest, I think, and I'm not trying to take away from how much time and commitment he puts into it. But out of all the other professional sports, I think it's almost the most similar. to a nine to five. Like he doesn't, he plays 17 games in the regular season. It's not like he's playing a game every other day. Like baseball all over. Yeah.

Yeah. So I think the NFL is obviously a huge commitment, not trying to take that away whatsoever. But I think he balances it really well. And we have four months off together. Yeah. To do whatever we want. I like it.

I like it. You mentioned your own dreams and aspirations. You started out sewing pieces just for basically for yourself and him. And then someone like, well, how can I get that? And you're like, and whose idea was like, babe, I'm going to turn this into a business or you can turn this into a business? Yeah. I think I really, I was doing it for myself, truly just because I didn't like what was offered up the stories. You didn't like the gift shop here?

No, I did not. The pink shirts and the V-Nex. Yeah, no, there was not enough options for me. So, I mean, it just was like a natural progression. And then there was this one time that I was out of game and I was looking around. a freezing game and every guy there is wearing this huge puffer jacket and they have a jersey over their puffer jacket. And I'm just like, why has there never been a jacket that has the players name a number on it? So you can be cold and you're not like restricted.

Where's a jersey over jacket. That was kind of like my late bowl moment. And then when I made my first so-called jersey puffer vest is when I was like, ooh, I'm on to see. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Have you always, have you always been good with, you know, sewing and putting things together? To be honest, no, I didn't go to school for fashion. I was a business major. But, like, I come from a family of entrepreneurs who are just kind of like the figure-it-out, kind of gritty people. And so I just was like, I'll go to YouTube and I'll learn how to do it. That's what I did.

That's dope. I hear people say YouTube can teach you anything. Yeah, YouTube University. 15. You just finished the 15 season, right? Just finished 13. 13. I mean, there aren't a whole lot of fullbacks.

You and Richard up in Baltimore. Y'all are really the true fullbacks. Everybody else will bring an offense or defensive linemen in on short yard. But there's really you two guys left. How many, have you sat down with Christian and have you guys mapped out, you know what, babe, I want to play two more years, babe, I want to play three more years. Or you want to play as long as a guy to give you health and allow you to do it. Exactly.

It seems to me that she's going to be very supportive, and she's not putting a time limit on when you guys, you know, you need to call it. That's exactly right. is she's been super supportive that as long as I want to play, she's on board. And the way I look at is as long as I'm healthy and I'm still having fun, like I'm going to keep doing it. And so everyone, you know, when you get to this stage, especially after like 10 years, how many more years? One at a time.

And that is the truth, man. Like you really take it one year at a time. I like to even push it to, all right, let's go two years at a time. So nobody's giving me a hard time. Yeah, I wouldn't like another guarantee. But I feel so good right now, and I'm having so much fun. Like, I can't even envision what it's like to stop playing yet. So I'm not going to, you know, put an end-lined at it.

I'm going to tell you guys, I'm going to tell everyone else. At least two more, and then we'll go one at a time. The funny thing about it is, is there's really no time there on you and how long you can play because of the value that you bring for the team. There aren't too many where there ain't none that can do what you do. Right. I appreciate it. There's only one other, and he's on a team.

And you're not seeing too many Fullbacks in college. So you're not seeing anyone getting drafted. It's a thankless John. Yeah. And they give you on fourth and one and when you don't get it.

How can you not get it? Bro. Because the whole team's teeing off right now. There were 12 guys. There were 12 guys in that in the end up. Well, congratulations, man, Kristen. It was very nice to meet you. Kyle.

Great talking to you guys. Another Harvard alumni, man. Yes, sir. Tell Bobby Chessieieffin, what's up? Oh, I definitely. Hey, before we leave. We do have to mention Envisaline. Oh, yeah.

They're the reason we're here today. Okay. And I'm just like Ocho here, I'm a nut about my health. Yeah. You know, everything I put into my body, I make sure it's the absolute best. Just like Ocho. And Invisaline is huge for oral health. And oral health is just another component of your overall health.

And I always look at it if I can improve any part of my body that's going to improve part of my game. And so Amiseline has helped with that. And in my mind, it's helping me. with, uh, they're such an amazing company. I've worked them for them for three years now, so it's amazing to have Kyle finally on board. Yeah. They do so much for women in sports and just like confidence building, so we're just

happy to partner with them again. I also have another thing for you guys. I was about to have us. You saw those bags. Yes. We got gifts? We got gifts. I brought you guys my Super Bowl jackets.

Wow. I don't have the right size for you. I'm a large. You're a large? I'll get you a large. I have an XL and a large. I think I might be able to. I got to get you an Excel then.

I think I might be able to. No, no, he's an Excel. I'm the large. No, I'm going to get you the large. Try that. I think that might fit you. I don't think I can fit that. I'm just going to work it now.

Okay, Shelly said she can fit it. You want? I can get you a 2X? But you know what I want you? Can you make us a nightcap jacket? Yeah. I'll put it on it. I'll put it on.

I'll figure it away out. She'll figure it out. Let's see. Don't out on, I don't show. Come on. Yeah. I'm sexy, right. Yeah.

No, hey. How did it look? That looks. Incredible. It fits great, too. That's amazing. So great. That goes crazy.

All right, I'll get you the 2X. You need a model. Let me know. Okay, perfect. Yeah, I definitely, I'm... Because you, what do you wear? X or 2? You wear an X.

Okay, no. You might need a 2. All right. I'll get you to the 2X. I'll send it over here. All right, thank you. You can keep it. It's for you.

I hope you guys like it. Thank you so much. Thank you guys. Appreciate you guys. It's a pleasure, baby. You look incredible. Thanks, Dad. Hope you like it.

Thank you. Kyle and Christian Eusecheck fullback for the San Francisco 49ers made another Pro Bowl he's one of the great fullbacks in the NFL he's played for an extremely

long time he's applied he's played at an extremely extremely high level and his wife as you can see she's very, very supportive and you see why they're one of the cutest couples

in the NFL very supportive very supportive Hey can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah. Do you know?

No, I don't look up there, man. Oh, okay. It's too late. He didn't read it now, man. Hey, do you know who Darth Vader's daughter is? Let me guess. It's another joke. Do you know who Dark Vader's daughter is?

Darth Vader's daughter. Hmm. Darth Vader's daughter. Darth Vader's daughter. He only had one daughter. No, what's the name? Elevator. That was great.

That is great. I mean, you could, I mean, look, I've never, I've never met Kyle and Christian used to. But they seem to genuinely, genuinely love each other. Yeah, yeah, most definitely. They seem to be genuinely, you know, like so supportive of one another. And she says, I get it. I understand he has to get extra treatment. I get it that he has to study.

I'm not trying to rush him home. Yes. Hey, now how many would be understanding of that if you think about it? think about your experiences. I think about my experiences when I was playing. Did I have the time? What was it? You going somewhere right now?

Come on. Come on. You're good? You good. Man, we were looking for you last night, man? I just got out of this morning. Oh, you just got here this morning? I just got here.

Y'all see who this morning. 2020. Formerer rookie of the year. Washington Commanders quarterback. Leave it out. How you doing, man? I'm good, what's up? I'm good, I'm good, bro.

How are you feeling? I'm really good. Have you started off-season conditioning yet? Or you give me your body a chance to heal up and get ready to start? I have a long time to heal up. I already started. I started. You started back in December.

Yeah, I started. So where's home for you? I'm in L.A. You in L.A.? Yeah. Oh, okay. You like it in L.A.? Yeah, you know, I'm a sole cowboy.

I know, yeah, I understand. Most of the time, obviously, Once you reach a certain heights, you know, in your career, some people in time you tend to move to a different place. It's someone that you're always, somewhere else. That's always going to be home. That's all right. Even in LA, I'm not from L.A.

I'm from like, I'm from the Inland Empire. That's like an hour each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's far. But I'm most definitely, that's always going to be home. So Kyle always home. Yeah. Okay. So watching these two teams, the Patriots,

Drake May obviously was in your draft, Sam Darnel, with the USC third pick in the draft. Everybody that we've come on, we have not found one. player that has picked the Patriots to win this game. How do you see this game playing out? Pick the Patriots. Nobody. Nobody. Nobody. I can tell you why they haven't.

I mean, I'm going to roll my drag class. Okay, you're taking Drake. I'm going to roll my drag class. Okay, I like that. What's your meaning? You're serious? I'm going to roll my drag class. Even with that defense the Seahawks have at all three levels? I've got a phenomenal defense.

Huh? I played them. They got a phenomenal defense. Yeah. But I got a roll my drag class. Okay, you roll the drag player. Okay, okay, okay. How do you see this game playing out? Man, I think whoever is able to, whatever defense is able to stop the run

and kind of limit and keep them one-sided. Obviously, what the Seahawks has done this year, offensively, defensively, out of the world, J.S.N. Obviously, the numbers he put up, Sam, been falling. But, man, I feel like if Drake can get gone, man, they got a good chance. obviously you have a lot of time to recover to decompress

so obviously you're back into training but there's still some things that you probably like to do so what do you do now until you get I mean really really start with like April and you know you have to start get back to OTAs what are you doing in your free time right now outside I'm just spending time my family spending time my loved ones

you got you kind of sacrificed the time throughout the season you don't really get that time So it's like after I'm done with my obligations of training and doing whatever, man. If I take the time to watch the film, go back and watch the season, you know, I'm kind of just spending the time with my loved ones, my friends, you know, they'll come visit me, we'll kind of just kick it. You're like, what a fun. What you're going to have some fun?

Like dirt bike riding, motorcycles, bull riding, parachuting, no parachute. Man, the commanders that kill me. They heard I was doing something like that. I'm tripping. They're not. But it's an off season. It is all season. It is all season.

I'm my hoop here and there. You can you? What you play? What you mean? What? You know, I ain't going to say nothing. What you mean? You're not, I ain't going to say nothing.

52 a game. 52 a game? 52. How many games? Three? Okay. Okay. Three?

Yeah. You know, I do it all now. You know, you know my background. I do. Yeah. He played with my son, Cole? Yeah. How, how, how much film do you watch in the off-season?

Do you watch, you go back and look at what your team did, what you did last year, or do you fast forward? Or do you move forward? No, I think I learned this from Bobby Wagner last year. Like, he does it after every year. He goes back and watches the whole season and evaluates himself. Okay. So that's kind of what I do.

And then this year, you know, I kind of already started it. So I finished it. But at that point, it's like, okay, now I kind of have an understanding. Like, this is what I feel like I need to work on this off season and stuff like that. So I have a better gist when it comes to sitting down and talking to my team around me. Like, this is what I feel like I need to work on. Oh, man.

Jane, appreciate you, man. Hey, all the best. Get healthy, stay healthy. Hey, got a big year. You know it. This is a big year? You know it. Hey, I'm counting on you now.

All right, I got you. All right. Come tap in with a night night next year. Bet. That's. Sauce. Come on. What I'm twin?

Come on. Archie, come in. Got a card? Huh? Yeah. Oh, I thought you tried to give me something. He gave me a card. Huh?

Oh, okay. Oh, come real quick. Selfie, selfie. What's up, bro? You good? Joining us now is all pro, defense and rock rookie of the year. Yeah, you can look like money, huh? Now, go and put him on.

Yeah, because you could hear it. Can you hear it? You hear us now? Hold on. Hold on. Let me unzip, man. Let me unzip, man. Hey, let me unzip, man.

Hey, let me unzip, man. I do got to ask you. Huh. Hold on. I've been seeing you. Yeah. I've been seeing you. Yeah.

I mean, you can't come on here. Stunct on us like that, man. I thought he was the cheap guy. Who? What happened to that? I'm still cheap. Yeah. What happened to that?

Hello. Let me see that. What? Oh, yo. This ain't no. Hello. Yeah. Come on, man.

Yeah, this. That ain't a Jubilee bracelet. That's a presidential man. Yeah. That's what I do. I want to be the president. Well, actually, that's, it's called a dayday. They call it the president.

financial bracelet because that's what The president is right. No, Senator Kennedy when he was, he had it on. I know Kennedy. So they gave it, they gave it that nickname. Yeah, but it's all day date. But anyway, songs, how you doing, bro? I'm good.

Check this out. It's a blessing to be here, man. Blessing to be here, man. There's no way you could envision. Obviously, you played well your first couple of years. You got ding. And then you signed this massive contract. This massive contract.

This massive contract. contract in the offseason. And not even six, seven months later, you're dealt to the Indianapolis coach. Tell me what goes through your mind when they give you that call and say, We're trading you to Indy and the aftermath of that. I can't give you my exact reaction, but I wasn't, I wasn't mad at it. Really? I wasn't mad at it.

How could be bad? You're going from the Jets to the Colts. You're going from a team that's not contending to go into a coach team that is doing extremely well. I wouldn't be mad either. But I do, I did like miss I missed the fans, you know,

my teammates. You know, the fans when it wasn't like toxic energy. I'm talking about those type of defense when I got drafted, me, Gary. They're excited. The excitement, the optimism and not the looking, for bad every time it's something good.

Like those fans, because all of the fans went like that. You had some true die-hard Jets fans who always wanted positive. Like, you know, things to come out of it. But I did miss the good ones and I did miss my team. Sauce, I would be remissed if I said. Looking at you, your first two years, you were hands down the best. You and Pat Sertane, y'all was going back and forth with the best corners. I felt some of your play, and I don't know if it was injured, you can clear it up right now.

at your playf. I'm Dylan Playfair. And I'm Tyler Smith. We're putting loneliness in the penalty box by talking to some of our favorite athletes about the importance of friendship. This is Bromance. Bromance is brought to you by Charm Diamond Centers,

proudly Canadian-owned and operator. Charm has been part of your love stories and bromances for over 50 years. And you can find Bromance on the IHartRadio Network or wherever you get your podcast. Stigatz here. I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow.

And I have brought it here to Eyehart. I'm also doing a live radio show from 3 to 5 p.m. Eastern because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house. It's called Stugats and Company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes every single day. Some of the biggest names in sports. A lot of phone calls. I love you guys this show. It's one of my favorites. A lot of interaction.

Guys not taking themselves too seriously. Those are just some of the things that you can expect from Stugats and Company and Stugats and Company. and Stugats & Company Live. So listen to Stugats & Company Live and our original podcast. Please subscribe, rate, and review. Stugats and Company and God bless football. Taylor's livelihood depends on it.

Do it today. And you can check all of those out on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And the winner of the IHeart Podcast Award is, you can decide who takes home the 2026 IHeart Podcast Awards, podcast of the year by voting at iHeartpodcastawards.com now through February 22nd. See all the nominees and place your vote at iHeartpodcastawards.com. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award.

Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. Some of your play had slipped and you weren't that same player. I wasn't the only one that felt that way. but I have you here, and I can't say, well, you know, all of a sudden I have you here is not going to say what I've said before many times on Nightcap before. Do you feel your player slip?

And if so, is it injuries? What transpired were you're not that because people started to challenge you whereas your first two years ain't nobody trying to see so. They was caught up in the size. See, look, this is why I think y'all don't understand. Okay. It was the opposite. The first two years, everybody was trying to see what was up with me.

I was having 80 targets. The first two years I was having 80 targets. So if we're going to talk about, like, ratio? Yes. I was having 80 targets and was getting like, all right, I'd get two picks out of that when I should have had more picks with 80-something targets. Correct.

I'm getting 30-something targets. The only other corner that is getting that same amount of, like, respect and treatment is pat. Nobody else is getting... Pat is the only other corner where it's like... And another thing, people don't, you don't really see me get beat. That's why if I ask you which plays have I got beat in, you would know exactly which one.

You want me to tell you why? Because you don't see too much plays that I give you. You can always recall. If I asked you what play, what are you going to say, George? Yeah. George had a play on me this year. He's probably one of like three receivers to have 50-some yards on me as a single receiver. Right.

I've never gave up a. a hundred-yard game in general, let alone to a receiver. It's never happened, and I don't plan on that happening. Probably the most yards I've allowed by a receiver, probably about 50-some, 60. And after George even made that play, he didn't catch another ball. Right, right. That's me, though.

But I understand how it could be, especially, like, social media, you know. Sometimes when you just, you know, when you're not really watching and understanding, you just see certain stuff and you just see the negative because that's how I am. Nobody's posted. In my first couple years, speaking of just fans, even if it was some negative,

they was always talking about the positives. Right. Now, if it's a negative play, everybody want to get on that negative. They want to pay that bad wagging that. Bro, I got one question. Yes. Why is my play from Atlanta

where I tripped on somebody's foot on a two-point conversion trending while the game is still going on. Because of your greatness, you're who you are. Because trust me, if you wouldn't be trending, if you weren't great, because you built, you built this. The little things trend. Yes.

So that's why I come to this point. People know now, if you want to get engagement, if you're having a bad day of engagement, just mention saucy's name. It's free. It's free. Everybody knows that. I don't want to give the little Twitter page,

whatever they call it. I'm not even going to say the name. But y'all probably know them. I'm not going to get them no little pub. But they know. It would be so random. I'll be chilling. I just look.

I'm like, dang, why are they tagging me? Right. Where am I coming from? They make a little list. Overrated guys in the league. Yeah, yeah. It'd be four quarterbacks in one corner. You think the corner is.

Like, what are we talking about? Does that bother you? Does that body? Does that affect? you in any way when there's negativity on social media or are you able to compartmentalize both and be able to steal, you know what? Forget what they talk about. I'm still going to go out and handle my business. Well, it definitely don't affect me on the field. Never has affected you on the field. I remember when I was early in my career, like, it'd be like, bro, what? Like, what sense is this making?

Right. And then now it's just like, that comes with the territory, like, what type of time I've been on. Yeah. But I do want to have more picks and stuff like that. But that just lets me know. know, like, all right, I just got to make the most of these opportunities that's going to come because they're not coming. All right, Atlanta game. I broke, I broke on a ball. I'm like, I'm thinking Drake Linden. I'm thinking Drake Linden by the jumping to me and try to go. So I die.

When it's like, if I know he was just going to sit there, I should just ran through the ball. But it's like, from that point, I never had another out. And throughout the season, when I was with the Jets, I didn't have no pick up. But so basically what I'm saying is like, if we. We're going to talk about it. We got to talk about it. It got to be an even playing field. Because I feel like at times, and it's the reality.

It's excuses for other guys. Yes. It's excuses. Y'all make excuses for these other corners. And I don't want no excuses. Don't make no excuse for me. Tell me what's really going on with me. But say what's really going on with everybody else too.

If you're all going to try to compare me to these other guys or compare these other guys to me. Because that's just how I got it. That's how I think it should go. You healthy? You healthy. All the way? Because you had, remember you had the calf injury,

and it was concerned, obviously, anytime someone gets a calf injury, they get really concerned now with the Achilles. And so they kind of be overly cautious, and maybe where you could have came back in one to two weeks, they push it to three or four weeks to make sure because that's the last thing as a corner. You don't want to ever have to deal with that and knock on wood.

Hopefully that does not happen. But you're 100%. Have you already started your off-season condition? Yeah, I'm in Miami with it. You had the crib? Miami. Why ain't telling me? I just got there.

Okay, okay. Now listen, you want to get some work here and let me know. I bet. Okay. So what's the one thing that's going to take Salt Gardner's game to the next level? What do you want to work on? Ball skills, hand-eye. Because, like you said, when you get those opportunities, if you only go get two opportunities,

you got to kill. That's why animals, you know, venomous snakes in Australia. They not come across one animal but for a long period of time. Yeah. So they got to strike. And that venom got to take instantaneous. If you only getting two targets a game, bro, you're going to have to make something. You're going to have to make it half the sauce.

Look, this is a difference. All right, let's go more in depth. Targets. Yes. Every target is not a pickable target. No. So if I'm getting two targets a game and they're throwing it at the ground, underthrow, out of bounce, all right, I had two targets and I ain't get out. What about me?

What about being? Yeah, some of them probably can. I got to, this is what I want to do. I want to take more chances. That's what I want to. do because it's not even always just like all right, just catch the ball. I have had some drops

where it's like just catch the ball. Like some of them still hunt me. Like anytime I see that in person, I immediately think of the 2020 play where he threw it right to me. Yeah. Like, and I dropped. You know, but taking chances too because I've been in the lead some years

so I can make more players, more game change. I mean, you study. I mean, trust your instinct. Sometimes I don't think you trust your instinct. You on top of it And you like... Sometimes I just settle for the PIVU. For sure, for sure.

But I'm not going to lie to you and be like, yeah, I always just go take a shot, you know? But, you know, like you said, studying the whole week. Like, you don't have no reason why you should. Be like, that's the play where I'm about to, you know. You go into a week and say, you know what? If they run this route, if they run this route in this down and distance, in this area of the field. And more times and so, they always do.

This is a copycat lead, so they end up running it, and I just PBU. Yeah. It's like some, if I dive, not the one like in Atlanta, but it's some like if I dive here, like, all right, this is big. I could dive. Yeah. How you feel about traveling with the number one receiver? Oh, and that's another thing.

I'm happy with here because, you know, look, one thing about y'all, y'all talk about all of the stuff that people want to hear, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So look, all right, we're going to start from 2022. Yeah. Oh, so it's not traveling with the receiver one. He's not doing that. I couldn't.

Kosala wouldn't let me. And I don't think he still let his guys do that. Right. Last year, not including this season, last year, traveled with the one receiver. Same thing going on. I got lower targets traveling with the ones than when I didn't travel with the one.

Like, I'm just saying, like, I guess I have, the source have to bring the facts. Right. I have, I've got double the amount of targets traveling, not traveling, then traveling. Just staying on one side. Oh, he get too many PIs, da-da-da. That's what the talk was when.

Last year? Yeah. Da-da-da. I think I only had like three this year. Four or four. Oh, he can be missing tackles. I think I only had two missed tackles this year. Okay.

Who have you seen say anything about that? Nobody. Nobody. So we're going to really be real. Let's be real. but a lot of people prefer to say the negative and just keep the negative there and don't address the positive

so everybody's just looking at it on this negative thing but I'm a realist person so I'm going to talk about the good and the bad of everything where there's any other corner like oh yeah damn yeah he ain't have a good game this game oh he had a good game this game like yeah yeah yeah yeah and these corners y'all compare me to

that's how to go sometimes they have a bad game yes but if I have a bad game everybody knows I had a bad game. But it's different because it's a gift and a curse based on who you are, based on the brand that you've become. For one, you were in New York. You know what being in that market does to you. It takes you from here to there.

You were already great, especially your first two years. So therefore, they're going to judge you a lot more differently than all the other corners in the NFL. So it comes with the territory. And you got a nickname. What's the nickname? Sting is not, that's just your question. I like, I like, I like, I like, I like,

Sting is, that's a good nickname. But it's short for Stingley. Ain't no part of your first name, sauce. What's your government? What's your government? Amma. Yeah. Hey, sauce.

It comes with the territory. And plus you can line it up to about, hey, it got caught up in the sauce. And so people like, people like, why is he doing this marketing stuff with his name? And my corner can't do that right now. You think that's what it is? Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely. But look, what y'all want me to do? Nothing. It's the same. No, I'm saying? Like, I can't do nothing about who I am as a person and what I'm here. Nor should you. But I give you a prime example.

Look at time. Don't nobody call him Deon. Everybody call him prime of time. Yeah. And he understood what came along with that. And he caught a lot of the same stuff because time came in a year before me. He called him the same. A lot of the stuff that you did.

He caught early in his career. But he flipped that narrative. Now it's only. you could do the same. Yeah, for sure. No, he's somebody who I don't, obviously I watch this highlights, but him as a person.

So, like, that's somebody who I know is, like, the closest to what I can, like, relate to, you know what I'm saying? But he is with a little more, like, he was really overly popping it off the field. Like, fur, like, you can do that? You can do that. That's not even, I'm not going to do something that I,

that's not. That's not you. I'm not the, man, take advantage of it. No. The fur? The fur, the, the first. That's not even. Matter of fact.

That my own people is going to be. looking at me like, bro, this is not even... Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. When you score, when you get an interception, put the fur on the sideline. Don't do that, man. I could do that.

You see what I'm talking about? Hey, sauce. Hey, take it from here. Take it from here to here. Nah, they don't know it's his fault. So don't get mad at me. Hey, come by hollings on nightcap. Oh, yeah.

Just let me know when. My team said, y'all reached out. Yes, we did. I'll pull up. Yeah. Y'all be out on the West Coast, huh? Yeah, well, you're in Miami, so I have to come.

because we used talking about Club Cheshayshay. Club Shaysay, that's a little different. That's the one with like, like, he was Cat Williams theme. Cat Whirie. Yeah. I remember that while I watched that. That's a nightcap, you owe nightcap right now. But we got a little different vibe.

We got a little different vibe at night than we are now. We got to be, you know, all the advertising and everything. Yeah, we got me chilling. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'll come on a club Shet Shet. You know what I'm saying? Appreciate you, bro. We reach out.

Appreciate you, man. Thank you. Thank you. Salt's Gardens, ladies and gentlemen, two-time first team all-pro. Defensive rookie of the year traded from the New York Jets and two the Indianapolis coast. We got them. We've got a very special guest joining us.

Three questions. Oh, hold on. Am I supposed to read? I'm reading. If you could pick two past NFL teams to play in the Super Bowl, who would they be? Two past teams? Past teams. Two past teams.

I want to go back to Super Bowl 49 and I want Seattle to play the Patriots again and Pete Carroll and what's it called him don't run that dumbass. Don't call that double-ass. Darrell Bell will don't call that double-ass pass play. I'm trying to think. I want the Bengals to come back.

I want to repeat that game against the Rams. Okay. And on that fourth down, that fourth and one, I don't want it to be passing interference on Logan Wilson. Okay. And, oh, so you want to win? Yeah. What kind of good?

I want to win. I absolutely want to win. Because they cheaters out of Super Bowl. I'm trying to think, 76. The Steelers had one of the great defenses in 1970. I'm trying to think who won the Super Bowl in 76. Who won the Super Bowl in 76? Was it the Cowboys?

The Steelers had an outstanding defense. In 76, Ocho, their last nine games, they gave up 28 points with four shutouts. The last nine games? The last nine games? 28 points? They gave up with total. Total. Are you sure?

Total. Total. I don't sound real. That don't even sound realistic. They did, Ocho. They were that good. They were better in the 2000 Raven defense? When you look at it, they gave up like, I think back then they was only playing 14 games, though.

Okay. But when you look at Ocho, what they gave up, because normally historic defenses only get rewarded if they go and win the Super Bowl. Okay. 85 bears, 2000. The 0-2-13 Legion of Boone. But you look at it. Actually, the 84 bears were better than the 86 bears were better than the 80 was better than the 85 bear. But they don't get the credit for it.

Because they didn't win. They didn't win. I think it was 84. But the 76 Steelers, go look up those Steelers defensive stats. And you'll see they had eight starters in the Pro Bowl. Their entire secondary started the Pro Bowl. Jesus. They had eight starters.

There's only, you know, there's eight. There's only 22. They had eight starters in the Pro Bowl that year. They were loaded. But this has been great, man. We've had another jam-packed day, Trevor Lawrence, Salt Gardner, Kyle and Christian, Ustead. Man, we've had so many people rolled through here.

Michael Pittman, Jr. What do you all think is the best defensive player in the Super Bowl this year? Who's the best defense of player in general? And this will go the best of the best of me. Who has, who is the most valuable impactful defense of player?

You probably have to make a case for a spoon of Gonzales. I would, yeah. Maybe because, hey, they don't even target Gonzalez in general. Probably, yeah. Probably,

uh, that's a damn good question. That's a damn good question. So he collectively, collectively as a whole, the Seahawks are really, good at all three levels. So there's no one player that's like, okay, you know, like Aaron Donald.

Yeah, or Miles Garrett. No, they don't have that one guy that sticks out. Right. But boy. That's as good. If anything, I would go with Christian Gonzalez as well because offensively, he kind of shuts down one side of the field for the fact that you do everything and you just stay away from that one individual.

Yeah. I definitely think the Seahawks defense secondary as a whole is better because when you take spoon, Wollin, Love. Oh, yeah. You take those guys, Ernest Jones. Ernest Jones, the 4th has been spectacular.

And then you got Leonard Williams, you got deed law, you got Jared, you got Reed. They're really good. But I think people are really undervaluing the Patriots. Stigatz here.

I have a podcast empire that I have brought here to IHeart, and I'm also hosting a daily live radio show from 3 to 5 p.m. Eastern called Stigotson Company Live, which is available in podcast form, right when the show finishes every single day. You can expect a lot of laughter, great guests, a ton of calls, and a lot of fun.

Listen to Stugats & Company Live and our original podcast, Stugats and Company and God Bless Football, and you can check all of those out on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy, Nav Green, from the Broken Play Podcast. Look, it's the end of the season,

the playoffs are here. Guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play Podcasts with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs.

The Chief, it's time to rebuild. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcast or whatever you get your podcast. And the winner of the IHeart Podcast Award is you can decide who takes home the 26 IHeart Podcast Awards podcast of the year by voting at IHeartPodcastawards.com

now through February 22nd. See all the nominees and place your vote at IHeartpodcastawards.com. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com.