Club Shay Shay - Nightcap LIVE from the Herbst Theatre for Super Bowl LX Hour 1

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are live from San Francisco at the Herbst Theatre! Unc and Ocho are interviewing the biggest guest as we prepare for Super Bowl LX, featuring the New England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NIGHTCAP   (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's Coach Shannon to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. Prize picks. It's feel good to be right. Thank you so much. everyone that showed up. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Uncan Ocho, we're nothing without you. I love you. I love you. I think it's moments like this that, uh, me personally, I'm just going to speak for me and then Ocho can speak for himself, that I get an opportunity to realize just, just how special you guys are. I don't, I don't have to get into what transpired in 2025,

but for you to have a for us to have a sold out show tonight and the support that you've shown Ocho and I Shannon Short will be forever grateful. Thank you guys. Listen, for those of you that I don't know

and I'm always playing around. You don't know nobody in this audience. I know, hold on. For those he don't know. You don't think so? You don't think so? Hell no. You're home boy. I know I know a few people but I appreciate y'all. I thank you

you know, you guys don't understand that you guys are the meat and potato for our success. I'm very grateful for everything that you've done for us through the ups and the downs and the fact that we're able to still sell out a show here in San Francisco.

I thank y'all dearly. So hello, San Francisco. Welcome to Nightcap Live from the Earps Theater presented by prize picks. We do have a laporteur bar at the back, so make sure you go grab yourself and drink. Get drunk. Ocho, so, I mean, you've been out

You've been out in the bottom of the city. You've had an opportunity to get around. You're live streaming. So what do you think about the Bay Area thus far? I love the Bay Area. I've been here. I love the Bay Area. I love the Bay Area.

One part, one issue. I had one issue. Obviously, I took the little buggy carts, a little yellow buggy cars, you know, and they take you on a certain trail, and I went down. What's the steep hill you go down? Right. The Rooney Hill? Huh?

Lombard. Lombard. I went to Lombard. And I was driving it, and I accelerated. and I flipped. And so I flipped and I rolled a little bit. But, man, listen, the Golden Gate Bridge, I tried to jump. And the guy told me, don't jump because, you know, some people, there's been casualties.

And I told him I'm a professional diver. Yeah, you're a cliff diver. So listen. Apoco cliff diver. Yeah, no, yeah. You know, I did cliff diving in Brazil. So I know how to hit the water the right way. You got to point the toes.

We point to toes you good. But, man, listen, San Francisco, oh, my God. I ate a soul food today. Okay. You got to go. I went to mini bells. Y'all been there many bells? Boy, man, listen, the greens and the macaroni and cheese and the yams.

Boy, it was right on. Good night. I'll tell you, you got to go there tomorrow. Well, they better be open at 7.30 because my flight leaves at 10. Are you leaving tomorrow? Absolutely, I'm leaving tomorrow. Where are you going? I'm going home.

I don't know where you're going. I want to stay here because I like it here. Listen, the flight to flight. The flight, and I'm telling you why I'm staying, right? I got some few obligations tomorrow, but San Francisco has been so welcoming. The people have been very nice. Everywhere I've been. So the flight, the Miami is six hours, and I just got here two days ago.

Ain't no way in hell I'm going to fly another six back home already. It's a little, probably about four and a half back home. Why do you? Because you got the wind at your back. You ever heard of the prevailing westerlies? Like when you come east or west, the wind is in your face, and when you go west to east, you have a tailwind? You're bullshit.

For real? I'll discuss it with you later. Okay. Okay, here's the class. The Pro Football Hall of Fame announced this class of 2026. Going in on the first ballot, Drew Brees, quarterback, New Orleans Saints, San Diego Chargers.

Going in on his first ballot, Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals. Going in, linebacker, Carolina Panthers, Luke Keakley. Luke. Going in, one of the greatest kicker, if not the greatest kicker from the New England Patriots and the Indianapolis coach, Adam Venetieri. And going in, the high stepping, Roger Craig. You like that, what do you think?

Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Keekley, Adam Venetieri, and Roger Craig. I love it. I love it. I mean, with those names, what they've accomplished, what they've done throughout their career. No coach Belichick, no Mr. Krai. Listen, their resume speaks for itself. Correct. Eric Fitzgerald, rightfully so.

Luke Kinkley, even though he had a short career, what he did during that time he played, awesome, Venetary. Speaks for itself. Obviously, what? Three, four-time Super Bowl winning champ? How many times you won? Three or four.

Four. Three or four? Either way. Yeah, he went four. Because he won one with the Colts and he won three. Okay, so I mean, you can't argue with anybody that's been in there. Yeah. So this is a great list. Obviously, a lot of news was made about who didn't get in.

Yes. Mr. Kraft obviously didn't get in, which is a surprise to me. I don't know what he's doing to keep him out. Coach Belichick, I understand, you know, the Flakegate, the spy gate, and a lot of the writers that vote for this, they probably feel at some point in time, Coach Belichick wronged them. He was snide, condescending, or whatever the case may be, cavalier with his answers or things like that.

But at the end of the day, if you put him in, why you, I guess they're putting him in, they're going to make him wait because they say he's unwind. worthy of being a first ballot. And the argument that they use is that they say, well, what was he without Tom Brady? And my retort to them, what was Coach Noah without Terry Bradshaw? What was

Coach Lombardi without Bart Starr? So most of the time, most coaches that go into the Hall of Fame, they have a Hall of Fame quarterback. This is not, you know, I'm not interrupting your normally scheduled program to break this news to you. Everybody knows, with the exception of Bill

Parcell, the exception of Joe Gibbs. Joe Gibbs won the Super Bowl three times with three different quarterbacks. Coach Parcells won it two times with two different quarterbacks, Jeff Hott, Steller, and Phil Sims. But you can't hold who he, you know, who his quarterback is. I think it goes hand in hand.

I think they work brilliantly together. I'm not so sure Tom Brady would have won as many Super Bowls without Coach Belichick, and we know Coach Belichick would not have won as many, if any, without Tom Brady. So it was a match perfectly made in heaven. But those are your 2026 class. Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Luke Keaklin, Adam Vinny Teary, and Roger Craig. So give it up for those guys going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

I mean, you played, you played, I played against Adam, and I played against Drew Brees when he was with the charges. These other guys, Larry came in, I was gone. Obviously, I played against Roger, because if I'm not mistaken, I think he was with the Raiders when I got there, when I got with Denver in 1990. But this is a very good class. Drew Brees, one of the top quarterbacks ever to play. the game. Larry Fisgerer, one of the top receivers to ever play the game. Keekly, like

you said, he had a very short career, but he was a defensive, he was a defensive, a rookie of the year, and the next season, he was defensive player of the year. Yeah, yeah, he's the real deal. Many time, all pro, he was sudden, he was all over the field, a very good student of the game. He was a thumper, very well deserving, I think Adam Nitary was a

no-brainer because he is one of the greatest kickers. I mean, you can make a case him, and the guy that was at Baltimore, Both of them. You might be the two clutches kickers ever, especially in moments in which they've come through big. All right, we got two very, very special guests under the tent pole.

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podcast network on the iheart radio app apple podcast or whatever you get your podcast we were just going over this uh this hall of fame class drew breeze ladfist jerald lukekekekeleton adam vinty and roger uh you with the exception of craig you were in the league with all of these guys were in the league any surprises uh drew obviously drew with the records that he had last fish jerald was consistent throughout his career lukelly one of the best middle linebackers to ever play the game obviously one of the best big game kickers in the NFL system, Adam Venetieri, and Roger Craig, the first man to rush and receive

for 1,000 yards in the single season in 1985. What do you think about this list? All deserving? I don't know. I don't know. When you talk about a guy the first to do something, he was on those championship teams, I think the thing is that when you look at, especially you look at Raj, and the guys that were in,

he having to be in the Eric Dickinson ever. And he looked at it, he had to be in some of those guys that were rushing for 15, 16, 70, 100 yards, and he never had that kind of season. He was just, you know, he was kind of like a Marshall Falker, a Christian McCaffrey, a guy that can do everything. You just didn't hand him the ball and like, okay, he's going to go for a buck, 5,200 today. He did a little bit of everything.

He might have 70 yards rushing. He might have 70 yards receiving. And so I think that kind of kept his numbers down. But I think he's very, very deserving to go in. What do you think about this list? I love the list. I actually played against, you know, a lot of those dudes too, Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald. Luke Keekely. I think nice

hands Larry. I'm super glad for him to get him. He was such a good dude, such a good person. He was so dominant for such a long time. And he wasn't the fastest either. So he was able to get open with his body and if it was in his area, he was going to catch the ball. You mentioned you have an opportunity to spend one season playing for Coach Belichick.

You're talking about a guy that that's won eight Super Bowl, six as a head coach, two as a defensive coordinator. His game plan in which you stopped the K-gun, the Buffalo Bill's offense in the 1990 Super Bowl, his own display and the Football Hall of Fame. What do you think are some of the reasons outside of his personality? What do you think some of the reasons why he was unable to get in on the first ballot Hall of

Famer? They've only been for George Coach Hallis went in on the first ballot. Chuck Noll went in on the first ballot. Coach Lombardi went on the first ballot and Don Schula, Coach Shula went on the first ballot one of the first ballot Hall of Fame coaches. He got he got better numbers than all of them. He does. So so so him not getting in there It's just basically, I think it's an opportunity for them where they're like, you know what, it's time for me to get my get back. It ain't no fun when the rapper got it going. I ain't like how you talk to me or how you didn't talk to me. I don't like how you, you know, your relationship with the media, because that's a lot of the people, writers who actually are doing it, and it shouldn't be guys like that.

It should be guys that are in the Hall of Fame. It should be guys that are first ballot and you're coming up for First Ballot, I believe it should be First Ballot Hall of Fameers that are voting on that. Right. It shouldn't be somebody that has been just writing about the game, looking at the game, and then when the time comes, you know what, I want to settle with school. Right. I like that. I don't like the fact that the writers of the people, the 50 voters that are allowed to vote for some of the players that are going in,

especially when it comes to something that's prestigious as the Hall of Fame, I think it should be those that have played against you, those that have had the coach against you, and that you're giving 50 people too much power. And now they're abusing that power, said power, for something that is, almost common sense based on a resume and accolades, especially when they come to somebody like to be a Belichick. That's what I'm saying. Like you could be a blind man and see what he's done and know that he's supposed to be in first ballot. So the fact that they had that kind of power and they like to play and move the goalposts depending on who the person is, they're going to

make excuse for somebody they don't want to get in. Those that they like that conformed or aligned to how they felt they should have been, okay, yes, he's available. Well, this is not the first time, and I called it for us. I couldn't, I used to think, that I knew what a Hall of Famer was, especially, you know, obviously, you know, when you don't play the game, you're like, okay, he should get in because you're just watching it on television. But after playing the game, and I see Derek Thomas has to wait five times for him to get in. I see T.O. who still want to one, three receivers that have 150 receiving touchdowns in a career. He was a five-time, all-pro, but three with three different teams. Only two other players can say that, and they're both first-team all-pros.

And then when you change the bylaws, they didn't change the rules. They didn't change the rules to keep Coach Belichick out. They changed the rules to keep T.O. from getting on the first ballot. So now, I say, y'all, now all of a sudden, you should have an open ballot. You didn't have an open ballot when T.O. didn't get in. So, no, we're not going to do that. No. We're not going to do that. We're not going to change the rules. And just because you don't like who became the governor or who became the president, oh, not everybody got to show their ballot who you voted for. Get out of here. I'm with you. I think the 50 voters, the gatekeeping, I don't like, it's normally when you see Bill Beulichick, if anybody seen,

him coach. Blind man, no. Like you said, that's a Hall of Fame. First ballot. If he's not, who else is? Right. It kind of takes the validity away from it. I don't like the people that if he treated you a certain type of way, you didn't like the way he answered you from the media. All that, if you, the play gate, take all that stuff

away. He still has four ships. He's still better. It still doesn't change whether or not he was a good coach. Whether how he treated you doesn't change whether or not he was good at his job. Now, there are plenty of people. Your boss might be a jerk. He's still your boss. I mean, so Coach Belichick might have been a jerk,

but he's still a damn good football coach. And I think sometimes that get lost, but it does. If we like said individual, we'll give them grace. If we don't like said player, even if they do a great job in a movie, I don't like you, so the movie ain't no good. And I think that's what happened with Coach Belichick. A lot of people don't like him, and it tainted their view about him as a head coach. The people that don't like him are just the voters.

I went there for about four or six weeks. Yeah. And I'm sitting down and go talk to him and I'm like, this is going to be a different conversation. Right. Is he going to be talking to me like he doing the media? And it's all the show. Like he is very open, very communicative. He says what he means and he does exactly what he says.

Like it's plain and simple. And something else, like his ability, though, to take a player and put them in the position that he sees them being able to play best. Like, dude, we had like 12 different defensive sets. And it may switch out one person, it may switch out six people. But he was going to put the person in the position that he needed to do

the job. You able to make that play? Yes. Wow. So talk to us a little about the show. You got a show. And we talked to us a little bit about this today that when Ocho and I, we went on vacation and we're trying to find people to fill in and like, okay, maybe this is something that can lead long term. Maybe they'll see if they like to do it.

it or maybe they don't like to do it, but this is something that they'll see, get an opportunity to see what it's like to do their own show. So when you got, and I remember when Ash said, well, when Debo said, I say, Debo, who? I see, he don't, I mean, he, he, he, he, he, he want to talk, he really want to do a

podcast? He said yes. And so he signed up and then you got Joe, so what went into it? Why did it all a sudden you say, you know what? I think I want to do this. Um, so I got a fear. So, I'm the reason I was so, I'm a person. The reason I was so.

office with the media and all that is because I was nervous. I was scared. And I was running away from something. So it wasn't me trying to be an asshole. I just was nervous what I was going to say. Right. And this was another opportunity. Like just out here like just talking right now in front of people like this, dude, if it was 10 people in the room, I couldn't put together two words. Like and now, you know, I'm like, you know what? It's an opportunity. You know, let me see, you know, if I like it. It's not something that I'm really committing to, committing to. So, I think I ended up doing it with TJ. Yeah, I ended up doing it with TJ. And it went well. I enjoyed it, and I just really got to say what I wanted to say without having to worry about what team I was on or what this person or that person, you know, is going to say because I no longer had to, you know, go and answer to anybody.

Right. And, you know, through that process, like you said, talk with Ashley and she's like, yo, would you want to? I'm like, yeah, for sure. Like, you know, let's try. I will give a lot of credit to my manager, Risa. Layam, she actually really talked me into it. She's like, come on, you can do it.

Like, they want to hear what you got to say. You ain't even got to really. They just want to hear what you got to say. They want to see you, like, as a real person. So I'm like, all right, cool, let's do it. And Joe ended up coming from just, I went to a charity softball game. Okay. And it was, man, we had been looking for somebody for, like, probably like,

two, three months or something. And nobody was, like, really fit and didn't like the people they brought up. You know, they didn't like a couple. Well, I had two people that I, and we just sat down, and we were sitting there playing in the softball game for camp, and we just chopped it up. Like, we had been knowing each other for 30 years, like, never missed time. I just saw you yesterday, and I'm like, yo, what about Joe, hey.

And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then that process, he was actually, you could take off from here, but he was looking at trying to do a podcast itself. Right. Same thing. So I was Debo funny dude. We played on the same team and he was very standoffish when I came to the Steelers because this was 2017. T.J. came there. It was more like, you know, him and coach, just the whole situation. So Debo was like Debo. He wasn't really talking to too many people. He wasn't being too friendly. So he just, I would see him through the locker room and I was just new to the team and we were always cool, always respectful. What's up, Debo? How you doing? He was, you know, what up, Joe? Boom. All right. Eating his food. Doing his workout. handling business so Depot was real cool and when we met him again we ended up linking up at Cam Hayward's thing I just think he just good dude and you know we just respected each other and we have two totally different perspectives on

stuff we got two different angles but we have a common ground of respect and I rock with him I think that's why it works so well because I watch y'all sometimes I wake up in the morning and I don't appreciate y'all ignoring me when I be in the chat talking I'll be saying I'd be spamming the chat chat trying to get their attention and they just keep on talking. And I'd be spamming it and really be directed at one person.

I'm right here right now though. He ignored me, huh? It's hard to know you right now. You notice something. You notice what he said is when he was playing he didn't really talk to the media because there was a fear and he was scared and he would run from it. What do you think my middle name was in half school?

Bullshit. My middle name was media. Media. So he's running from you Manor fact when we play I used to punk him on the field Joe I'm telling you Listen man he talking about me actually talking nice to him one time

After they were finding my ass like crazy I was just trying to get some good conversation If I did pop somebody and the ref heard the conversation I was having I really wasn't the person that was aggressive I was going to be the person that was going to put him to sleep But other than that Yeah. Listen to what he just said.

He was talking nice to me. Yeah. Talking nice to me. Like, I punched you. What are you talking about? It's okay. It's okay. You don't have to be tough all the time.

There are people tough in you. Yes. Like me? No. I walked into that. This game, we're a couple of days away from the big game. The Patriots, Seattle. Seattle's been one of the top teams all year.

I don't think anybody, I don't. excuse, the Seahawks have been one of the top teams all year. The Patriots, I mean, you think about it. They won four games last year. They get a new coach, the second year for the quarterback, Drake May, and all of a sudden, they just get better and better and better.

The one thing about the Patriots, they're not going to beat themselves. It doesn't matter who the coach is. Obviously, Brable, he's kind of like Belichick, but he's a more personal coach Belichick. And it seems the guys really, really love playing for him, and he's really ingratiated himself. because he was a player. So he knows how to get the players to play at a certain level.

Who do you like in this game and why? I like the Patriots because of the coach. I've seen, you know, what he did from the beginning that he got there to where he's at now. I've seen in the progress of just the quarterback in the last two games where, you know, you see Drake, he's like, oh, I could take off from this. He's like, nope, I'm going to lay down. I remember last week I tried to do that and I phomp with the rock.

Right. You know, it was a situation about, oh, I could have made that throw. No, let me go ahead and sit down and take that sack because it was an opportunity there where if he had made that throw, dude would have stepped in front of it. Right. So I think, you know, the quarterback is really growing through the process. They're trusting each other.

Like the team is trusting, the offense is trusting the defense, and the defense is trusting the offense, and special teams is doing their thing to put in. And I just feel like, you know, with him there, man, I just can't go against it. I just can't, I just can't, man. He did a great job. That's just one year. Right.

Great turnaround. Who you like, Joe? I like Seattle. Okay. This is why I don't like you. I got, I got, I got reasons. I got reasons. I just out here saying things for no reason.

I like New England, too, but going into the playoffs, I mean, Drake May and me, he hasn't been doing too good. Sam Darnold, when they beat, when they beat the Rams, I don't. I didn't know. I was up in the air with Sam Donald. I would always blame like, I know. They ain't had no D-Bs, Joe. Debo, there you go. I'm talking.

I wasn't talking when you was talking. So Sam Donald, in that offense and now with Walker running the ball the way he's doing Jackson Smith and Jigba, those Dibis, yes. My man, number three, I call maybe Dermon James. Little Dermon James, he's unbelievable. So the defense, they're balling. If Sam Donald is doing what he does like he did versus the Rams, they're going to win. Because, I mean, the page.

good good good team but like Drake me I love him to death but this playoff last week they would they you see them taking the knees 86 like the weather was bad but 10 to 7 yeah I think the thing is if Sam Darnock can avoid what he what he's not done this entire playoff run which is turned the football over he takes care of football they're gonna be tough to beat you turn the football over you lose you lose this ball game there's a lot of new there was a lot of being said about they asked Tom Brady who's he rooting for Tom Brady spent 20 years with the new England Patriots and everybody just automatically assume, man, I'm for the Patriots.

He said, I just hope for a good game. I don't really have a dog in the fight. His quarterback team is like, what? What do you mean you ain't got no dog in the fight? He got a six dollar. You got a whole kennel. Hey, he's an owner now. He's an owner of the Raiders now.

He ain't got the dog in the fight. He's just trying to tell you. But I could see, you know what? I could see. All y'all do is make noise. Y'all never make no plays. Yeah. I can see if he was calling the game for Fox and you want to seem neutral.

But he's not calling the game. I can assure you, if I was on live television and Leonard television, we talk about it, I'm rooting for the Broncos. Yes. You're not supposed to. I know I'm not supposed to, but I'm going to. You know what? That creates unnecessary news for him because now the headline becomes Tom Brady's rooting for the Patriots.

that's too much. Now he has to play defense. Let me ask you quick. One, because the position with the Raiders. Yes. Two, because the position as an analyst, it alleviates any issue. Dude, the position with the Raiders and the analysts should never have come together. That should even go together. That's

a problem right there. It's Tom Brady, so, you know, we're going to let it go. If I tried to do that, man, they'd be on my ass. Do you actually think, let's be real? Do you actually think Tom Brady is not rooting for the Patriots? He's rooting for the praise you. Exactly.

I would think so. He just wouldn't say it. He said to make it seem like he's neutral. Like, you know, I really don't have a dog in the fight. Bro, you spent 20 years there. You'll find his memories. We're there. He got a trophy outside in front of the stadium. A statue. Yes.

I mean, he's going to send brave up something. If they win that thing, though, for sure. You want me to hold that before you put it on my next. No, I don't. I don't. I don't. You won't see that back. That's for sure. Man, congratulations to all the success, man. Dibo and Joe, hey, your first year, you did unbelievable.

It's only get bigger and better moving forward, man. Congratulations. Joe. Hey, thank you, baby. Huh? Oh, get right, people. I said, that ain't really what you want. What you mean?

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I don't know, Ocho. I don't know. He too little. He too little? Yeah, I mean, you are? Hey, he too, no, I ain't, I'm too, I'm too. I show hope, uh, I show hope we still get that discounted, Morgan and Morgan. Hey, see, hey, hey, listen, listen.

Now you know, you know. in the Bible, they had a story. David and Goliath. Goliath was huge, but David won. That would be the same story in 2026 against him. All that muscle don't mean nothing. He threw two punches. He's tired. Two, two. He goes, I can't be, man. Man, choke him out. Man, all that don't mean nothing, man. Are you doing boxing or MMA? Listen, MMA or boxing. He can't fight. He too big.

Well, I don't think you'd probably need to find out whether he can or can. Oh, we're going to set it up. We're going to set it up. Chat, wouldn't y'all like to see that? Yeah. Yeah, man. All right, we got a very special live performance. Here he is from the Bay.

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Oh, my boy, Matthew Stafford. Where did he? He ain't too far behind. He did all this talk about. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy. Bro, you know, I ain't no Josh Allen fan. But Matthew Stafford got better weapon.

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He might need me an Ocho to join. Hey. I should put spree wheels on a station wagon. I'm from the home of the East Bay Dragon. A little up north where I landed, baby. I ain't had nothing handed, baby. I'm never who I'm from to be candid. I don't ask for respect, I demand it.

Soon as the plain land, I be getting to the chicken. A fellow like me is slim picking. The man that you went, he's a parking brand. I'm Mountain Valley Spring, not the Target brand. Hello? Are you hard adhering? You have a hotbed out the car while steering. You have a gig till you sweating out your white tea.

You have a cheese and took somebody white me. You have a ticket to the view, not the sightseed. I got flavor. That's why the people bite me. I got flavor. Y'all like me. I got flavor, sprinkle me, man. I got smells him.

Bounce to the beat till it starts to hurt. Then I dust hard and smirk off me. Dipped to the ground as I catch the bass. Then I wipe all the sweat off me. I back up and I start to slide popping my collar. I break that thing down and do the just don't curve. Come on, everybody. Now's your chance.

Fuck the hell I'm shaking. Obviously, the West Coast rap. We know the West Coast. The Bay don't get the love that they deserve. You know, you got 40. Rested so, Matt Dre. You got so, at what age did you like, you know what? I'm going to give this rap finger try.

I start rapping when I was like seven. Wow. But I didn't believe I could really do it until I was like 23. Okay. At what moment hits you? What moment hit you? There was a moment for Unk that it hit him,

you know what, I can play at the next level. There was a moment for me where I understood, you know what, maybe I can give this a shot because I can play at the next level. at what moment in life did it hit you this rapid thing and I could really do this shit I put out an album in 2018 and my pops was giving it out

and one day I'm in the garage I'm just working and the UPS driver pulled up and he hop out the truck and he like, nigger what did your daddy give me? And it was my album Yeah. You know, and it was one of those moments that was like, man, I might have something more special than I believe myself.

Right. That was the moment that you knew. But when you talk about debate, obviously, everybody knows Forty Water. Have you had an opportunity to mingle with Forty Water? Did he give you, put you to any, on top of any game? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Water laced me, you know? Anytime I call, he answered, he pick up, and he laced me, he connects me, he

connect me wherever I need to be connected, definitely. So you bay, you with the 49ers, you're the bang bang bang gang or what are your favorite to you? I'm with the Yeh area, you hear me? So you all things here. You're the Warriors, you the A. All things, Yay Area. Wow. So when you, when you perform, when you go to the East Coast, is the East Coast, they know who the Russell is?

Definitely. I sell out every coast. coast, north and south. Yadr-a-ne-N-I-N-I-L-D-R-Dadee. I love that. I love that flavor. Who you room for on Sunday? Who you got?

Well, me and my homies performing on Sunday, so I'm room for us. I got the home team with me. Hey, you're like, if it's not the Niners, I don't really care who win. We'll lose a draw. I'm good. As long as I'm there. I'm in there. Right, right.

Hey, you said you started rapping at seven, right? obviously at one point you made an album inspiration. We all pull inspiration from somewhere that makes us want to do something. That gives us motivation. Who is your inspiration? Especially here from the Bay Area.

I'm a major. Yeah, definitely magic. Everybody that put some sauce in the pot dough. I really took some from everybody. I was out the trunk hand-to-hand because of 40 and short, you know, and I was deep in life wrap because of

a pocket. Everybody that put sauce in the pot, you know, I took what I needed from them. Right. Okay. You recently signed to Jay-Z's label. How has that been? It's been incredible. You know, I went to sleep. I went... I went to sleep one night

and I didn't have no songs on the radio and I woke up the next day on 50 radio stations. Damn. Is that one of the reasons why it's so hard and you need that machine, which is the record company, the label behind you to push because when you when you're independent it's kind of hard to get that kind of airplay because you need people from coast to cold to hear you like man man i like i like i like

a dude man he's nice like that but when you're not when you're independent it's just hard to get that airplay yeah the relationship is different you know when you're independent and you go to radio that might be your first time so it's their first time meeting you they first time doing business versus with a label they've done business for 100 years you know They already connected and respected, so it's just a different grind. You know, and I'm still independent. We spend our own paper and we come up with all our own stuff. We put out our own music.

We just got a partner now to help. Right. I like that. Give me your Mount Rushmore Bay Area rappers. Sheesh. Two pop. Okay. Park.

Magdray. MacDray. E40. Too short. Too short. Okay. That's a solid-ass list. That's a good list.

going to get you out of this. What advice would you give young and up-and-up-and-comer rappers that want to get into the game? Maybe take the approach that you took. What was some of the advice that you would like to give that you would pass along? Be authentic as possible. You know, I really got this far because I connected and resonated with my community. People see me and they see themselves. I'm not somebody that's up here.

Like, or people still get to come up to me and dab me up and talk. to me and I'm not trying to flex on nobody. I'm really showing people the way I'm out in my community. And I think we got into an era of society now where rappers is like, it's almost like we, it's just flexing. You know, it's just a whole bunch of shit that's like, I didn't grow up that way, you feel me? Like I can't connect to you and I can't respect it

because that's not what I've seen and witnessed. It don't make sense to me, you feel me? So just being as authentic as possible, the best thing you could be in this world is you. It's only one. Yes. I think that. That's dope.

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You need to make sure the people is good. Go ahead. Y'all good? You show? I'm going to say this one time and one time only. Is there anybody that need a drink? All right. If you need a drink, your L-Porte back there, huh?

Yeah, we got a L-Porte. L-A-Porte is back there. When you get back there, tell him it's on on. All right, we got a very special guest joining us. I hadn't seen this man since he cut his dress. Legend. His locks.

Here he is. All the way from the crib. ATL. Legend. T.I. Come on out, bro. They do pop them? You back at it.

You back at it like you're never out. Hey, A-town business. You stepped away for a minute. But you came back. back like you never left. I mean, you know, bro, I ain't ain't gonna cap you down. Like, I feel a lot of the stuff that La Russell was saying, I think he was

speaking, like, pure facts because at a certain point, you know, we got in this, you know, the change, the standard of living for our families and, you know, to make a better life for ourselves, our children, but we ain't really asked

for all the fame and shit, you know what I'm saying? You wanted to force your damn the fame. You know what I'm saying? Like, but I mean, and when I say that, you know, it take a while for us to get used to it. Yes. It takes even longer for other motherfuckers to get used to it. And sometimes, man, it'd be hard for us to enjoy ourselves and just be, you know, like us. And normally, about it because other people is so like, oh, what the fuck that?

Like, my nigga, just chill. Yeah. So I respect, and I appreciate that you appreciate, man, cool, but my nigga just chill. And like what what caused me to want to step away is because I just started to see motherfuckers just started to acting like funny and just started making me feel uncomfortable. Right. So I'm like, man, let me just fade back for a little bit, you know, and but I can't just stay away forever.

So I think, you know, now it's time to just kind of reintroduce myself. How have you been able to manage and be consistent and have that level of consistency with success for so long. What do you attest that to? I think, man, I'm a fan first, and I really, really love I love the culture.

I love music. And I myself know what I want to listen to. Yes, sir. So I'm going to remain consistent because I'm nothing to put no shit out there. I don't want to hear. Right. And that's just always been my That's been my key and just, you know, I stay grounded because I have a strong support system. I got real people around me.

You know what I mean? They go and got, you know, called the motherfucker like it rolled, you know what I mean? And that allows me to stay true to myself and also stay true to what's going on out there so I can represent the people. See, that's a good thing. You heard what he said, huh? Yeah. You heard what he said, right? He stayed true to himself.

But also when I think about the rap game, when we was growing up, when we about the same. Now the sound of music has changed. Okay. How have you stayed truly yourself when music has evolved and it doesn't sound the same way it did when we was younger? I mean, bro, like, man, I still know what the fuck he pulled the sound like, right? You know what I'm saying? Right.

Man, this shit of feeling, bro. It ain't just, it ain't just like, oh, let me make something that sounds like something. Right. Like, I'm going to look for, for one, when I walk in the studio, I'm going to look for a track represents what I'm feeling right now. My mood right this moment. I read somewhere that, Sabaski, I said,

art is how, you know, we decorate space. And music is how we decorate time. You feel me? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me write that down. Hold on. What's doing right there, bro?

No, for real. And so, shit, I'm just using these. songs to decorate the time that I mean. You know what I mean? Like I can listen to songs that I did back, you know, in 2001, 2003, 2006, and I could almost taste the time. You know what I'm saying? Because I remember what I were going through.

Right. And that's, I think that's when the shit is done correctly. you can taste the time, you know what I'm saying? Like for an instant, you close your eye right now and just think about nothing but a G-thing. You feel what I'm saying? If you were like, you could smell the reef, you know what I'm saying? Because that's what the shit is, that's what we do.

That's what it's for. And that's all I aim, you know, that's my aim. You are this final project, let them know, which you said it's going to be your final album is it going to be your final album 26 or we're going to see you back again in 27 or 28. Are you fine? Are you done with music? I mean, to be honest with you, it's not that I'm done

with music, it's just that like when I came into this shit, I had a vision and a dream and I didn't damn near did all of that shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know, due to the grace of God, you know what I'm saying, thankful to all of the people who've been supporting and, you know, just been by my side. I've had the opportunity to do that.

I ain't stopped dreaming. The dream wasn't to do the shit then, do it over again. Like, okay, so now God has sent me here with gifts, many gifts. This is one of them. And I also have others that now that I've done what I intended to do with this, I've got to allow it. to open the door for me to do what I intend to do with the others. I don't want to go back with no gifts. You know what I'm saying?

I want to make sure I used everything that he gave me while I was here. Right. And it's just other shit that I got plans on doing, you know, producing, directing, writing films, real estate development. You're going to do acting again? You're going to get back into acting? Because there was a stress that T.I.U. You were doing more acting than music. Absolutely.

I got a film coming out right now. Okay. I got one on Tooby that I directed, wrote, directed. It's my film that I partnered with D.C. Youngfly and Carlos Miller and Little Duvall. It's called Departments. It's out on Toobie right now. I got the sequel in post-production coming soon. I got another film that is a romantic comedy.

And it's a film that I also wrote, directed. I actually starred in this one. It's called Thought She Was the One. It's about, you know, you know, nigger trying to find love in Atlanta, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, that's also a post-production. I got a... You got the fish spot, you and Killer Mike?

Yeah, me and Killer Mike. We got Mankeet and seafood, absolutely. So y'all come on, get you a fish sandwich, you know what I mean? Hold on. I know what I want to talk about. I got a trap music museum. I can't go, I can't blow past that. Comedy.

Yeah. Tell me about the comedy. Man, comedy is peace. That's why I find my peace. Yes, so? That's where I do, that's why, you know, I ain't really got to be T.I. You know what I'm saying? That's where I go and I'm just another comic that's aiming to make people laugh.

It ain't about celebrity. It ain't about none of that other shit. And I go up there and I find my peace. And I enjoy it. I don't give it down how much y'all is. enjoy seeing me do it. This is for me. Right, right, right. If you don't like it, don't look, niggas. You know what I want?

Let me ask you this. How hard is it? Because I could see like, okay, you're a rapper. If you wanted to do R&B, or you wanted to do country, or you wanted to do, you know, tech, whatever the case may be. Okay, Beyonce, she's a singer, she did country. You went to a whole different, a whole

different arena and said, you know what, I want to try that. Because normally... It really wasn't that I wanted to try it, that I fell in love with it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't intend on doing comedy. That wasn't, like, you know, on my to-do list. One of my partners, I support comedy.

My wife and I, we go on date nights and shit. And what we go do? We go to comedy club. Okay. We, you know, we spent a lot of time going to the Mike Yupp show, the Cat Williams show, the Dave Chappelle show. You know what I mean? 85 South show.

And I just happened to be at an open mic night, and one of my best partners in his name Kdub, and he were hosting the open mic, and me and him arguing, talking about why the nigger on stage wasn't funny. So he was like, well, you mad. Well, get your ass up there. I said, you know something. You know what I mean? So he introduced me and brought me on stage one day, just like.

He didn't think you're going to get up there. He didn't think I'm going to get up there. You know what I'm saying? And I just kind of just told the story of my day, really talking about shit, me and my wife had gone through. And I got like my first laugh, and I just was hooked. Right. And I started going to comedy club, asking to get on stage,

thinking of new shit ever since then. And I did that shit every motherfucking day for about three, four months. Yeah. just because I love to do it. I wasn't getting paid. You know what I mean? The money came a little later, but you know what I mean?

I just love to do the shit. Yeah. Where do you see at Lano? And guess what? And when comics find themselves in the studio recording records because they just love music, ain't nobody saying shit to them.

You feel it? Talking about, oh, he ain't funny. Nigel, your shit don't sound good. We just rode with you because we fuck with you, you know what I'm saying? Where is Atlanta? Where is Atlanta's rap, R&B, hip-hop scene? Where do you see Atlanta?

Because it's different. Like you said, the early 90s, 2000, and here we are headed to 2030. Where is it now? I feel like the scene, the music scene in Atlanta, it's a mid-metamorphosis. Hey, that's a big word there, what? Okay.

So it's... You know who the fuck was on stage. You know what the fuck would go happen. I knew the shit we're going to happen eventually. Is the metamorphosis going to happen expeditiously? It's me. Yeah. Well, we don't know.

That's what we don't know. But we're mid-metamorphosis. You know what I'm saying? Like, we're at a point where, you know, when a caterpillar becomes a butterfly, it's an ugly face. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? When it's in the cocoon, but, you know, we got to bear with it.

If you believe in it, you'll stick around long enough to see the beauty of the transition. You know what I'm saying? And that is where we are. I like that. I like that. When they mentioned Atlanta rappers, and we've got a bunch. You know, obviously yourself, Jeezy, T.I., Gucci, Luda, Future, Outcast,

all the dungeon family. Mm-hmm. If, yeah, you got gun and thug, savage. If somebody would say, look here, T.I. We ain't going to let you off the hook. Give me your five greatest. Your five greatest Atlanta rappers. Who are we putting up there?

Well, I'm going to ask first. I'm going to ask, why? Why am I doing this? Because that's just, like, why would I do this? You know what I mean? Because it's like, give me your five greatest actresses. Give me your five greatest comedians. That's what we do.

But see, this is why I feel like that is dangerous for us to do. For one, for one, as black people who've been fighting. to get out of a certain cycle of... Of comparison. No, not even just comparison of fighting for a position like only one of us or two of us or three of us can hold a position.

And many of us deserve a position can hold it. Why we got to stop it at a number? Like, no, it's just us. You can't get in. Like, everybody contributed. Everybody built this shit. Everybody made this shit what it was. So why?

I'm going to stop it at now. I ain't going to let you in because these are the ones. Is that how you look at it? That's how I look at it, man. And for one, I ain't just no Atlanta rapper, nigger. I'm in, you know what I'm saying? I'm, man, I'm, man, the earth is my turf. You feel I mean?

Shit, I put down in it well. I'd be out back there with the rustling hit back yard. I put out there. Okay. You know what I mean? I did hear you say versus. Yeah. So who you tried to, who you trying to see it of versus?

Can't nobody fuck with me, Shan. Hold on. Hold on. Can't nobody fuck with me. Tia, if you were to do a versus right now, none of the top wrappers that you believe would be able to fuck with you. No little Wayne, little Jay-Z. That's exactly how I feel, and I'm going to tell you why I say that.

Talk to me. I say can't nobody fuck with me because I am the absolute best at being me. Ain't nowhere else you can get this shit right here, but right here. You feel? I'm saying. Come on, man. And shit, I ain't getting on there trying to do them. I'm going to be doing this shit right here, and I'm the best to ever do this.

So have verses reached out? Obviously, that's Swizz and Tim. They're the homies. I mean, they did, but you know what I'm saying? Ain't nothing that made no sense. Like, for instance, me and young were supposed to go, right? No, no, no, no. Jesus.

Okay. Me and young were supposed to go. Hey, that would have been nice. That would have been nice. Yeah. Me and y'all were pulled to go, and then got down. When I were talking to Swiss, you know, I would like, shit, man. Yeah, I do it.

But, you know, really, the motherfucker that really would be the one, it ain't going to happen. But if Gucci, you're young and Gucci, that's the one. And then he hit me back. He was like, shit, don't even trip. I got, I think we're going to get Gucci to do it. I say, well, you don't need me then. That's the one. Hold on.

But then, Genev and Gucci already? No, they were before it happened. Oh, okay, before it happened, they were talking to him. Okay, okay. But I'm saying, so right now. And then I called my man. I said who I wanted. You won't wheezy?

No, I said I wanted 50. That's what I said. He don't want no smoke, though. Oh, Lord. I called my man, he don't want no smoke. He ducked smoke. It's cool. So now, so now here we are trying to think about other people who would do it.

You know what I'm saying? Damn. You know, we mentioned, we, We mentioned Wayne, and Wayne wouldn't be bad. I respect Wayne. I'm a hot boy fan. I feel like that would make some sense. I don't think Wayne really into it, but, you know what I mean?

I think that would make some. I don't think he into the idea of doing it at all. Right. And, you know. That TI 50, that would be the, hey, that'll feed families, boy. That's a good one. Damn. Yeah, but I ain't in the hurry ever to do nothing, bro.

I'm cool. You know what I mean? I'm chilling. I mean, but because we, I mean, We've had some good one. I mean, we had Earth winning fire and we had the eyes with. I love that one. We had, hold on, who else?

Yeah, Fault and Schult was a dope one. That would fly. I just was out there with, Snoopy and DMAC. Yeah, Snoopy DMET were hard. I just was out there. They did Mike Will and Mike Will and what the boy name? With cash money and what you call him, did it?

What the man name is? Mike. Hit Boy. Mike Will and Hit Boy. Yeah. Oh, you were in Vegas for that? No, it wasn't Vegas. It was in LA.

Yeah, we were there. That was smooth. Damn. Yeah. Tipsa, he won't 50. I like that. Yeah, I mean, you know. So let me ask you quick.

So it's 20 songs. Yeah. It's 20 songs. So let me ask you quick. So if all your songs, there can be something that you were featured on. I mean, I believe it could be anything that you had something to do with. Okay. Yeah.

Hold on. But I ain't tripping. I don't, you can. Hold on. Do you finish the album already? Uh, I could be finished, but it ain't finished. us out. What, hold you.

Hey, hey, is you. But, Tim, you know, I rap. Put your boy on now. I hear you. Yeah, you know, I can.

Oh, Lord. Tim, come on. Tip, tip, tip, I'm going to have to leave Georgia. Hey, get what.

Hey, pull on up one time, man, I did, man, I just, I get, just for the behind the scenes. Right.

You know what I'm saying. No, you know, I can wrap. I mean, well, come on and do it then. Yeah, come on, pull on up.

We, we have to disown you tip. Man, he versus hill. Yeah. He said, we good. Don't do him like that. You never know what he got.

Never know what the man got to say, man. Don't do him like that. Because the man got 100 jobs. He got 100 jobs. Shit, one of them got to pay eventually. Is it right? This the one that paid right here. Who you got winning the Super Bowl?

Ah, man. The Beyond it with you, man, I think the Seahawk going to get it. That's what I think. That's what I think. Well, he didn't ask y'all You feel it Oh, I know what I want Your Falcons

You got a new head coach They do You like to hire I don't really know bro All I know is he bent Shed door sandals That's all I know about I don't really know

Nothing about bro But at the same time That's not enough For me to form an opinion Right You know what I mean So I got to at least give him time I got to allow him to fuck it up

I can't. So how soon can we expect the Falcons to be playoff contenders and make a deep playoff run? Amen. I mean, because you look at what you got. You got to be John. You know what the Falcons, the Falcon fans,

every next year, that's our fucking year. You hear me, y'all enjoy it because next year, that's our fucking year. But, you know, we beat New Orleans two times this year. That's all that matter. Hey, man. We swept the Saints, we find. We're straight.

Because when you look at your team tip, you got Bijon, you got Drake, London, Kyle Pitts. Lots of talent. Your defense got better and better. They got a lot of young talent. I mean, but you realize the NFC is becoming more and more and more competitive. So it's time for you guys to take that next step. Do you believe your quarterback? Matt Ryan was unwilling Michael Pennix, Jr., coming off that knee injury.

You believe Pennix is your guy? I mean, we need help. You know what I'm saying? We need some help. I think we need some help. But more than anything, what we need is we need to make better decisions within the executive staff. You know what I'm saying?

We need to make better decisions. I think with better leadership and us enabled to make better decisions, I think the talent will be able to speak for itself at that point. Tip, what's next? You've done directing, acting, comedy, music, music. left at peace, came back at peace because you love it. What's next for tip? I'm going to put this album out, man.

And then I'm going to kick shit, man. I'm going to continue, you know, to just find out what the people looking for and find a way to give it to them. I'm going to also enjoy the time that I'm going to be able to spend, you know, with my wife, with my children, with my grandchildren, you know what I'm saying. It's time for me to really be able to enjoy the things, the simple things in life that we work so hard to earn enough money to be able to enjoy. I like it. I would.

You know you put an album out tip. You got a tour. You got that kind of energy to get up? Man, stop, see, now. Man, shit. You got that kind of energy to tour it, Tim? I'm going to do about two, three shows, man. Come on, Tip.

No, I'm just booing shit, bro. I'm Jeff Bushin, bro. I mean, you know, I'm going to do all the work it takes to make it happen, man. I'm going to do what it takes. Hey, are we going to be on tour? Baby, baby. Baby, franca. Oh, I speak for us too.

Michelle, we, we, we, we, y'all. Mercy, Berckel. Do you still get the same excitement when you go into the booth? Do you, it's still like the first time you went into the booth? Yeah. Are you still excited two decades later? Man, it depends on the beat. It really do.

I'm more excited about some beats than I am about others. But, you know what I'm saying? But I still accept the challenge of getting it done. Right. Yeah. Man, congratulations. You've got a beautiful family. Man, thank you, the kids, the grandkids, all the best.

That's the home boy, T.I. MC Ocho. Yeah. Yeah. Appreciate you, bro. Love and respect. Appreciate you, bro. Y'all get ready for our album.

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