Club Shay Shay - Nightcap: Murray lifts Nuggets over Lakers, Zach Wilson gets traded

Episode Date: April 23, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Monday's NBA playoff matchups, including LeBron James and the Los Angeles Lakers looking to even the series with Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nugget...s and the New York Knicks pulling out a late-game comeback to go up 2-0 vs. Joel Embiid and the Philadelphia 76ers. Unc and Ocho also react to the New York Jets trading Zach Wilson to the Denver Broncos, The Athletic releasing their annual NBA player poll and Rudy Gobert of the Minnesota Timberwolves being voted the most overrated in the league, Miami Dolphins wide receiver Tyreek Hill going back-and-forth with University of Colorado head coach Deion Sanders, and much more! 0:00 Introduction03:45 Lakers Lose to Nuggets20:10 Knicks beat Sixers31:40 The Athletic releases annual players poll43:35 Zach Wilson traded to Denver55:10 Tyreek Hill1:05:00 Michael Pennix Jr1:06:40 Alvin Kamara wins fishing tournament01:11:00 Draya Michelle Baby Shower01:13:00 Tom Brady Roast on Netflix01:15:20 Q and Ayyyyyy #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:54 Thank you for joining us again for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite on Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85 route runner extraordinaire. Bingo's ring of fame honoree pro bowler all pro and he's Liberty City's own, Chad Ochocinco Johnson. Thank you for staying up late with us.
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Starting point is 00:03:34 of the chat we're taking pre-orders only and thank you kindly for your patience ocho let's get right into it yeah nuggets buzzer beater by jamal Murray. The Lakers had him right where they want him. Anthony Davis started the game 14 of 15 from the field. D'Angelo Russell tied a Lakers franchise record with seven made threes. LeBron James, 12 of his 26 points in the fourth quarter, along with 12 assists and eight rebounds, was not enough because Jamal Murray, big shot, big shot Jamal. In the first seven quarters in this series, he's shooting 12 of 40 from the field.
Starting point is 00:04:08 He went six of eight to hit the game, went in the fourth quarter, and he was sensational. But the Lakers have no one to blame but themselves for being in this situation because they keep turning the ball over. And I thought LeBron James in the third quarter let this game get away from the Lakers because they went to the switch because Jokic had no answer for AD. They put Gordon on AD.
Starting point is 00:04:28 They put Jokic on Rui. Now LeBron has KCP. He's horse-dallying around with the ball at the top of the key. He's looking to pass the ball. Do what you did in the fourth quarter. Do that in the third quarter when you got KCP. There is no way KCP should be able to keep you on the outside. You got to take advantage of those situations, especially in the third quarter.
Starting point is 00:04:53 What's the quote you always say about having a lead at a certain time? How much lead you get. Separation. How much separation you get at a time like that in the third quarter, then you never come down to a last-minute shot for Jamal Murray to be able to hit a shot like that
Starting point is 00:05:09 in the fourth quarter because you've extended the lead in the third and you don't have to worry about it. Yeah, yeah. And I thought that shot at the end. I don't understand. There's a six-second differential
Starting point is 00:05:18 in the shot clock and the game clock. Okay, why would LeBron take a shot with 13 seconds on the clock? You still have seven seconds to play with. Right, right. You want to a shot with 13 seconds on the clock you still have seven seconds to play with right right you want to give them as little time on the clock as you possibly can right why would you shoot that shot i understand look i understand he's going for the dagger but
Starting point is 00:05:35 you have to understand you had lost momentum of this ball game a lot of things happened that was fluky uh you get a three-point lead. You almost get a turnover. Aaron Gordon saves the ball right to Michael Porter Jr. He hits the three. Like I said, you couldn't script a better game for the Lakers. Anthony Davis gives you 32-11.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Balling. D-Lo, I knew D-Lo. I said he'd hit at least five threes. He gives you seven. This is a game. LeBron's got to close it. He's got to bring it home. But, yeah, he played well in the fourth, but the third quarter is where you let
Starting point is 00:06:14 them make up the difference. You had a 22-point lead. Right. If you don't want to keep that 22-point lead, at least at the bare minimum, Ocho, you had a 15 point lead to start the fourth bare minimum ojo you had a 15 what do you have a 15 point lead to start the fourth you've got yeah yeah you had a 15 point no it was 15 was a 15 point lead to start the fourth quarter what was it what was the lead to start when did they have a that was the third the
Starting point is 00:06:37 third the third the third quarter is when they had that 50 had a lead and they ran at the 22 and that was the opportunity to push it. But I thought LeBron let KCP 20 point lead in the third. That's where I thought LeBron let KCP dictate to what he was going to do because he played on the outside entirely too much. Look at
Starting point is 00:06:59 what he did in the fourth quarter. Yeah, he hit those two threes, but he got downhill. That's what he needed to do on KCP in the third quarter. Yeah, he hit those two threes, but he got downhill. That's what he needed to do on KCP in the third quarter. Keep attacking. Make them foul you. Yeah, he blew a couple. Yeah, he blew a couple of layups,
Starting point is 00:07:13 but I don't care about that. I've got to keep attacking. I've got to keep the pressure on them. This was demoralizing. They're going to say all the right things after the game. They're going to say, hey, we blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:07:23 But this one hurt. Yeah, this one hurt. This one's going to have lasting ramifications. You need to. They're going to say, hey, we blah, blah, blah. But this one hurt. Yeah. This one hurt. This one's going to have lasting ramifications. You need to, you got to steal. When you're playing away, obviously in the playoffs, you got to be able to steal a game away. You got to be able to steal a game away.
Starting point is 00:07:36 And if you're going to steal a game away from home, this would have been the game to do it. They really, listen, to me, the Lakers gave their best effort tonight. D'Lo played very, very well after a horrible shoot- performance in game one. AD, I don't know what the hell AD ate before this game, but man, he was a monster. Him and LeBron working the pick and roll, in the paint, shooting mid-range, driving, going to the hole, from the foul line. He was on fire tonight.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Obviously, the rest of the supporting cast has to come through. They have to come through and give you more because tonight we saw a great game from the Lakers. Basically, really all around from the three, I would call it their big three. From their big three, we saw a great game all around. And hell,
Starting point is 00:08:19 Jamal Murray wasn't shooting well until the fourth quarter. Until the fourth quarter. And then all of a sudden, when it mattered most, he hits the game when it's shot. If somebody would have told me, AD is going to have 32 and 11. LeBron James is going to have 26, 12, and 8.
Starting point is 00:08:39 And D-Lo will have 23 on seven made threes. I say there's no way they're losing this game. Exactly. And Jamal Murray is going to shoot 9 of 24 from the field? I say they're not losing this game. Right. But you look, the turnovers. The Lakers shot a high percentage. They shot 5% higher from the field.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Right. They shot 20% higher from the three-point line. But the Nuggets shot 10 more shots. Because you know why? The Lakers had 14 turnovers. The Nuggets had 9. So those, and it got washed on the glass again. Because you know why? The Lakers had 14 turnovers. The Nuggets had nine. So those – and they got washed on the glass again.
Starting point is 00:09:11 They got out-rebounded by seven. They got out-rebounded on the offensive glass by five. But this was a game – this was a game I thought they let get away in the third quarter because I think when Mike Malone made the switch because he put Aaron Gordon on AD. KCP on LeBron. Yeah. LeBron got it. LeBron need to go get 14, 16 points in the third quarter and make sure.
Starting point is 00:09:34 So now the Nuggets are going to be on the bench. They're down 35. Hey, we can't come back. We'll get them on Thursday. Yeah. That's tough. that's tough that's tough i mean it it has to be demoralizing obviously lebron lebron gonna say all the right things but i think that third quarter is when that killer mentality comes should come in yes
Starting point is 00:09:55 that killer that michael jordan that uh that that kobe bryant type mentality oh this will be doing it's somewhat of a sign of disrespect almost not Not in that right, but I'm just saying if you put KCP on me, I'm going to take you to the blender. I'm going to take you to the blender. There ain't no way in hell you think he's going to... Man, what? It is
Starting point is 00:10:16 what it is. I think it makes it that much more difficult for them now, obviously, come Thursday. They're playing at home, right? But how much better are you going to play? They plan at home, right? But how much better are you going to play? AD went 14-19. D-Lo was 50%
Starting point is 00:10:34 from the floor, 7-11 from three. LeBron was 9-19. He was 50% from the three. How much better are you going to play? I'm a firm believer you're killing that with a sledgehammer. You don't swap at it. You're killing that with a sledgehammer. You don't swap at it. You're killing that with a sledgehammer. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:10:50 This would have been the game to steal away from home. If you're going to get one, this was the one to have. Yes, yes, but the same thing. Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. Like I said, I need somebody. I need LeBron. I wish I could hear what LeBron said when LeBron comes to the mic, let me know.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Because I need to know what he was thinking shooting the ball with 13 seconds on the clock. Why would you shoot the ball with that kind of time on the clock? That makes absolutely, even if you make the three, you still gave them 13 seconds. Right. Even if you make it. you still gave them 13 seconds even if you make it what do you think the Lakers need to do
Starting point is 00:11:29 to win game 3 should they continue to play through AD yeah they play through AD but how much better listen how much better do you think you can play AD was 14 of 19 D-Lo was 8 of 16 yeah Rui I think Rui must have
Starting point is 00:11:44 talked to Michael Porter Jr. brother because he took the under on his point total. I think his point total was like eight. He took the under. He cashed out. He had three points and the shots that he missed. I'm like, Rui, what the hell are you doing? Right, right, right. You're talking about what did A.D. ate? What did A.D. eat before the game? What the hell did Rui eat? Yeah. You know what? That momentum, that momentum as a player and that confidence, it might follow through in game three.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Maybe D'Angelo might come through and be just as efficient from the field as he was this game in game two. Same thing for AD. If you're coming off a performance like this, you're coming into game three probably with that same type of rhythm and flow to your game, and you pick up where you left off and hope you
Starting point is 00:12:32 can steal one at home, because if you go down, oh, goddamn three, well, shit, you might as well start packing for Cancun. Look at this. Anthony Davidson in game one, what's he go? 34, 32, 15, and 5.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Okay, tonight he goes 32 and 11. LeBron goes 26, 12, and 8. D-Lo gives you 23 on 7-11. LeBron had 26, had 28 the other night. Right. And double digit rebounds. So,
Starting point is 00:13:04 your big guns are going off. D'Lo goes. He joins him tonight. And you still lose. Lose. Yeah. So what, I mean. If my quarterback, Ocho, if Carson Palmer threw for 350, you are, the running back runs for 175.
Starting point is 00:13:19 The defense get three sacks and a pick six. And you still lose. Right. You're like, what we do? I mean, we can't play no better than what we played. Mm-hmm. Lakers can't play any better.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Lakers not playing any better than that because they turned the ball over. So you think the turnover is the only reason they lost? If you eliminate the turnover, if you minimize the turnovers, you think the Lakers win this game? What the hell? How many turnovers they had the other night on Saturday? Because they had 14 tonight. I think they might have been close to 20 the other night.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I mean, give the Nuggets credit. The Nuggets, this is what, listen. What makes the Nuggets so great is that when they get you in a situation, they're going to get every shot they want. If you look at what they did, they kept picking, keeping the pick and roll. Over and over. It's a two-man game.
Starting point is 00:14:09 It's Murray and Yoke. And they keep in the pick and roll. They keep in the dribble drive. They keep in the dribble handoff. Oh, you take away. Okay, Michael Porter Jr. is lurking to get up for three. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:21 But they're so great. And Yoke is just so good. His touch is so great around the rim. Murray's touch is so great, he's shooting floaters. He's laying it up. Yeah, I mean, they're difficult to beat. If you're not up by like 16, 20 with under four minutes to go, if it's a close ball game, you've got to execute on the other end
Starting point is 00:14:41 because you know they're going to execute on their end. Right. But I don't know how much better the Lakers can play got to execute on the other end because you know they're going to execute on their end right but i don't know i don't know how much better the lakers can play than what they played last night and they still found a way to lose the game yeah i mean listen obviously if you eliminate some of those turnovers some of those turnovers are turned into points i think they have a good chance the chances of the big three again playing as well being at their planet home i think they have a good chance. The chances of the big three again playing as well, being that they're playing at home, I think they have a good chance
Starting point is 00:15:06 to repeat tonight's efficiency and scoring from the field. So if they can do that at home, I mean, I think they have a good chance. But you got to minimize those turnovers because those turnovers turn into points. Oh, Joe. The Nuggets tracked them down in game one
Starting point is 00:15:22 from down 11-12. They tracked them down tonight by 20. down 11 12 they tracked them down tonight by 20 so in my mind I don't believe you can beat me in your mind you don't believe you can beat me me either yeah there's two mind the mind is a is a strong is a strong muscle right you know what has happened they know what has happened yeah They know what has happened. Yeah. So, I mean, Darvin Ham, what does he say? What does he say? What does he stand up there and say?
Starting point is 00:15:53 Good game. I mean, hard fought. We played hard. Mm-hmm. You had a big lead. You had a big lead. And I was concerned game one because I saw AD and LeBron going off and you're only up three. And it took a 30-foot three to put you up three. They had to cut that down.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Now tonight, you have a 20-point lead. AD's going haywire. D'Lo going haywire. And they run you down. You know, that's crazy. Nuggets have now beat the Lakers 10 consecutive times. Shit, dating back to damn their last season. So obviously, some teams you play, they always have
Starting point is 00:16:27 your number. So as a head coach, what do you do? Is this something that you can blame on Darwin Ham? Because Darwin Ham, he's not out there on the field. He's not out there on the court. Well, would Darwin Ham help you get that 20-point lead? People hear the thing. We got to stop.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Okay, we blame Darwin Ham when they lose, but you don't give him any credit when they win right it's the players on the court they didn't get it done it was too many turnovers the offense the uh the offensive rebounds and like i said they they were sloppy the lakers are one of the best clutch teams the them and the mavericks were the best clutch teams in basketball. Last five minutes of the game, the game within five. Yeah. And tonight,
Starting point is 00:17:11 they didn't get it done. And you needed this game because you played so well for 46 minutes. Right. 46 minutes you played well. The game is 48. You got to finish it off. You got to 48. You got to finish it off.
Starting point is 00:17:25 You got to finish. You got to finish. We had another barn burner tonight. Hey, the fact that we had two games have spectacular endings, and I'm on the edge of my seat like a goddamn little kid. Yeah. Darmanham said
Starting point is 00:17:41 it stings. Remember this feeling as we go back to L.A.? We need to give them this feeling in game three. No, you can't. I mean, bro. You got to do something. You got to do something. And the only thing I can think of is minimize those turnovers, turn some of those turnovers into points. And I think you said. Can D'Lo have another shooting game like this?
Starting point is 00:18:06 Sure. Can LeBron, can AD score another 30 and give you a 30 double-double? Absolutely. Can LeBron? Sure. But look at Yoke, 27, 20, and 10. But there's no answer for him, though. No.
Starting point is 00:18:23 But see, that's what you do. But here's the thing. There's no answer for him. No, no, but see, that's what you don't answer the thing. Oh, Joe, every, if you look at, look at your 27, 20 and 10,
Starting point is 00:18:30 Murray had 20, uh, Michael Porter Jr. Had 22. But if you look at the score, they cancel each other out. So they, cause they got 49.
Starting point is 00:18:40 They got 81 between their big three. They got 47, 69. And then we throw in Gordon's 14. That's 83. 49. They got 81 between their big three. They got 47, 69, and then we throw in Gordon's 14. That's 83. So, you're straight. You're straight. I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:55 that's all you hope for. You say, okay, now we need AD and LeBron to cancel out Yoke and Murray. We need D-Lo to cancel out one of their other big guns. Okay, D-Lo canceled out Michael Porter Jr. Porter Jr. Aaron Gordon gave you 14.
Starting point is 00:19:13 He outscored Rui and Austin Reeves by himself. He had 14. They had 12. Combined or a piece? Together. Shit. combine or a piece to get together shit so and you lose by two but hey give the Nuggets credit I don't want to
Starting point is 00:19:34 heart too much on it but I think the Nuggets deserve a lot of credit but they're champions they've been here done that they know what it's like yes yes so with that being said done that. They know what it's like. Yes. Yes. Yes. So with that being said, the Lakers head home down 0-2.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Looking to regroup. You get a couple days rest in your own bed. You go back, watch the film. Look at what you did good. Look at what you did bad. And try to regroup, but it's going to be tough. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:22:51 Jalen Brunson hits a three. Hart, Josh Hart steals. Devin Chimso, three. That Nova connection. All three of these guys went to Villanova. All three of these guys won a national championship. And they pull it out. You could easily make a case that this game
Starting point is 00:23:09 the Sixers probably could have been up 2-0 but they find themselves down 2-0 2-0 2-0-2 and they should have been up 2-0 and look tonight Tyrese Maxey 35 points Joel Embiid, 34 points.
Starting point is 00:23:26 But the rest of the Sixers starters, they didn't do too well, Ocho. They had 32 points. So basically, Maxey outscored the rest of the starters by himself and so did Joel Embiid. Yeah, I mean, it's out there two against five. Basically, it's damn near two against five. Maxey came out, he had an illness,
Starting point is 00:23:44 he missed shoot around, still came out. He had an illness. He missed shoot around. Still came out. He had the first nine points of the game. 20 points in the first half, which is a career high for him. Hell, for the night, he shot, what, 12 or 22 from the field? Yep. And obviously ended with 35, 8, and 10. I mean, Embiid,
Starting point is 00:24:00 what more can you ask from him? I mean, what percentage do you think Embiid playing at? What, 70, 70, 75? What, I mean, what percentage do you think and be playing at what? 70, 70, 75, 50, 60,
Starting point is 00:24:08 50, 60. He got no lift. Right. Yeah. He got no lift. I mean, they did a better job of, of keeping them off the glass.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I mean, right. Um, they only, they, they remember they lost the rebounding battle by 22 in the first game. They only lost it by two. Um,
Starting point is 00:24:24 they only lost the offensive rebounding by two. So they did a better job. Outshot them from the field. Outshot them from the three-point line. The Knicks outshot them from the field. I mean, from the free throw line. Turnovers weren't that bad. I mean, the Sixers had had 10 the knicks had seven but
Starting point is 00:24:47 see a lot of times he's like well the rebounding you know they they did a better job rebounding but when did those offensive rebounds occur the last two possessions when they got three four cracks at you yeah kyle lowry i don't you too look you're a vet you gotta call timeout in that situation just call timeout he panics, try to get it in quick he doesn't get it in quick he throws him into the trap they trap him, they get the ball
Starting point is 00:25:14 ball swings around, DiVincenzo boom the roof comes off the garden and now you're like 30 seconds away from going home, being 1-1,
Starting point is 00:25:29 and you walk out the building, you're down 0-2. I just don't know. I mean, the fact that you talk about what the coach is supposed to, is responsible for that timeout during that situation, right?
Starting point is 00:25:42 He's saying, Nick Nurse said he called timeout. Second time. It's the second time there's been a coaching blunder with Mr. Nurse. Is it Mr. Nurse? Mm-hmm. Nick Nurse, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Yeah, it's the second time there's been a questionable game in this strategy that he didn't really fulfill that might have cost him the game, which is why they're down 0-2 now. Kyle Lowry is a 50-2 now. Kyle Lowry is a 50... How long has Kyle Lowry been in the league? 15 years? 16 years? 17
Starting point is 00:26:09 years? He has the ball in his hand. They have a timeout. You can run the line. Call timeout. He's supposed to be an extension of the coach. That's what everybody tells you with Kyle Lowry. to be an extension of the coach that's what Cal everybody tells you what Cal Lowry he's an extension
Starting point is 00:26:28 of the coach he's a leader so his first three years so 19 so 18 he's been in the league 18 years yeah you got to be careful though you got to be careful in that situation calling the time out not knowing
Starting point is 00:26:44 you're supposed to know yeah Yeah, you got to be careful, though. You got to be careful in that situation, calling a timeout, not knowing. You're supposed to know. Yeah. He's supposed. Ocho, no. You're supposed to know that. It's just like you. You're supposed to know.
Starting point is 00:26:59 We ain't got no timeouts. I need to get out of bounds. Right. Yeah. Oh, we got a timeout. Everything's in play. The middle of the field. Okay. We're trying to save our timeout.
Starting point is 00:27:12 At all costs, get out of bounds. We don't need that extra yard to get trapped inbound. We have to burn a timeout. Take less yards. Get out of bounds. Kyle Lowry has to know in that situation, we have a timeout, and we use the timeout and we get an opportunity to advance the ball.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Right. He's got to know that. That's tough. That's tough. Jalen Brunson in game one was 8 of 26. In game two, he was 8 of 29. OG Ananobi, 10 points. Hardenstein had 14 points, but four offensive rebounds.
Starting point is 00:27:51 A huge block, a very huge block. Brunson had 24 points, but on 29 shots. Josh Hart, another monster night. 21 points, 15 rebounds, three assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks. Devin Chinzo, 19 points, 3 assists, 4 rebounds. And no shot bigger than, that might be one of the
Starting point is 00:28:13 biggest shots in Nick's history is the shot that he hit. Yeah. That's a good one. Jalen, matter of fact, you know what's funny? Is great shot by Jalen Brunson towards the end of the game, but he's shooting 12-55 from the
Starting point is 00:28:29 field. But he gets to the line 12 from the line. He's 12-15 from the free throw line through these two games. He's great on defense, and I think that's why people are ignoring the poor shooting so far in the first two games.
Starting point is 00:28:46 No, they're ignoring the poor shooting because they're winning. Ah. Winning cures all. So if they were losing, it would be an issue. He'd be getting crushed. Right. He'd be getting crushed.
Starting point is 00:29:02 But that's how it goes. You understand that. We know that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When you're losing, it magnifies everything. When you win, there's a lot of shit you can sweep under the rug. Absolutely. It's a lot of stuff. So the two home teams probably should have lost,
Starting point is 00:29:20 but it just shows you their grit because they find ways to win. The Nuggets found a way to win. The Knicks found a way to win, and they go on the road. Now that I think about it, I'm thinking before Brunson came to the Knicks, he was with Dallas. I don't know. You would know better than I do. Would Mark Cuban
Starting point is 00:29:44 feel some type of way in knowing he could have had Brunson, Kyrie, and Luka, and things would have been a little easier over there, or no? No, you'd be able to get Kyrie because you didn't sign Brunson. You could have signed Brunson to an extension. I think you could have gave him three years for 55. Right. They waited until after the season. He played so well in Luka's absence.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Now he's not going to take a deal. So now he knows if he hits the market, he's going to get a mega deal. Okay, okay. So he wouldn't have been there regardless. No matter what. No. No. Somebody was going to pay him more than what Dallas. Now when Dallas realized, he's like, nah, I'm good. Because when you
Starting point is 00:30:20 had a chance to sign me. Right. You didn't want to. For three for 55. Right. You didn't. He goes to the Knicks and I think he got five for 100. So, and he needed the ball. He needed his own team. That's Lucas' team. I see what you mean. That's Lucas' team. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Wait a minute. As the point guard, actually, that's your team as a point guard because the ball is on your hand majority of the time, always. You are the facilitator. You are the leader. That's Luka's team. The Mavericks is Luka Doncic's team. I don't care who else you bring on that team.
Starting point is 00:30:55 It's his team. What position do you think Luka play? PG, he's the point guard. And he just led the league in scoring. That's his team. Brunson needed his own team. He couldn't be what he is now there. You have to understand that. B.I. couldn't be what Brandon Ingram is with the Pelicans.
Starting point is 00:31:20 He couldn't be that in L.A. LeBron and A.D. He needs the ball. Sometimes it's okay to let a guy go and flourish elsewhere. Yeah, you're just like, man, what we could. But you're not going to be that with LeBron and A.D. Well, help me explain. Explain something to me real quick.
Starting point is 00:31:37 I know we're off track. We were talking about the Knicks and the 76ers. Well, how the hell does Luka and goddamn Kyrie work? When I think Kyrie, when I picture Kyrie, I'm thinking of someone that always needs the ball in their hands, though. Kyrie is tremendous at playing off the ball. Brunson needs the ball. But still, although Kyrie is unbelievable,
Starting point is 00:31:57 because guess what? Kyrie played with LeBron, so he understands how to play off the ball. Okay, okay. I got you. I got you. I got you. But no, he's had unbelievable season. He's going to be an all NBA player. Please make sure you hit that like button. Please make sure you hit the subscribe button and please make sure you guys go
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Starting point is 00:32:34 patience the two home teams whole serve yeah games they could have probably should have lost but the metal the grit what caused them to be where they are, they found ways to win the ball game and they were able to hold on and they won. So the Nuggets win by two and the Knicks win by three.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Going home, down 0-2. Now it's time for our first segment of the night. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Before we do the segment, before we do the segment. Oh, it's time for our first segment of the night before we do the segment it's too late it's too late I want you to see my sweater and I know you're going to want one
Starting point is 00:33:15 and I ain't giving you one and I ain't going to tell you where I got it from and I bet you can't name everybody on here oh HBCU I see number two that's all I need to see down there in the bottom right I see number two I'm good I see Walter Payton
Starting point is 00:33:34 I think Jerry Rice Steve McNair yeah McNair I don't know who 13 is. Charlie Joyner? Sound Like Totten. I mean, I think number 22 was Sound Like Totten.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I think he was a... Yeah, yeah. You don't know nobody. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to get one. I will send you one, but I ain't going to send it. They sent this for you, but I kept it. That dirty.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Huh? Who did? Chad? No. The Athletic released an annual anonymous players poll. The Athletic interviewed 142 players. The league's most overrated player
Starting point is 00:34:21 receiving almost 14% of the votes was Rudy Gobert. In second place, receiving almost 9% of the votes, Jordan Poole. And receiving almost well, he's received 7% of the votes,
Starting point is 00:34:38 Trey Young. Hey, man, do you really think Rudy Gobert is overrated? Or is he good at what he does and what he's supposed to do? Or are people still upset about him crying about not winning, not winning, making an all-star team? If you're a wide receiver. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:54 And you're supposed to be one of the top wide receivers. Yeah, that's me. But in two-minute drill, they took you out. I think, well, for him, they take him out because he's a liability on offense right okay well he overrated you see there you go see he's supposed to be a defensive guy yeah how do you how do you take him out if he overrate if he liability ah he's a liability because he can't score offensively I think that was the only reason he comes out the game right I'm trying to figure out how the guy that makes max money it becomes a liability when that's his thing he's supposed to be on well guess
Starting point is 00:35:24 what that's only one in the court. Don't you want to keep him in there for defensive purposes? You're right. I mean, listen, I don't know. And that Jordan Poole, now the Jordan Poole discussion, he was
Starting point is 00:35:39 great, if I'm not mistaken. You can correct me if I'm wrong. From what I've seen in the times I've watched him play, especially with the Warriors, oh,'m not mistaken. Now, you can correct me if I'm wrong. From what I've seen in the times I've watched him play, especially when he was with the Warriors, oh, he was magnificent. He was magnificent. Right. And then he went to Washington.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I'm thinking, okay, he going to pick up where he left off and he going to show the people and show the world on why he is worth the money that he got paid and why he can carry a team himself.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Right. And I don't think things turned out the way he felt they would. Or obviously me from the outside looking in, things haven't gone well for him. No. I can kind of see why he would get 8% of, I mean, obviously one of the most overrated players because they hadn't played well. The Trae Young, the Trae Young slander, I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Yeah. Dude, average 26 and 11. I mean, the guy averaged double-digit assists. He gives you 20 points. Yeah. I just don't know. I just don't know what else they want for him to do. Hey, I have a question. Do you really think they asked that many players
Starting point is 00:36:38 and players... Well, there are 400 NBA players in the league, so 450. Were there 15 players on the team? Let's just say 400. Right. You really think they interviewed all them dudes and them dudes really said what they said? I mean, they only interviewed a third.
Starting point is 00:36:53 It's just like the NFL. Okay, we got 1,500 players. They interviewed 500. Right. I'm always skeptical about these stuff where they say, oh, we interview players and it comes from a source. And I played for a very long time. Nobody ever asked me anything about anybody.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Never. I never heard any conversation amongst the other 52 players in the locker room. But man, you know what? They asked me about so-and-so and there was the survey that I did. So I was always a little skeptical about these interviews.
Starting point is 00:37:24 You do understand what the term anonymous means, right? If you tell somebody it's no longer anonymous. That's what they try to get you with. They try to get you with anonymous. Or they always try to say a source. Instead of, it's really coming from somewhere else. It's coming from inside the house. That's why they always say a source.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Yes, but it has to be anonymous To keep confusion down Nah, I don't know You know what? People need to stand on business We're in 2024 If you have something to say about somebody Say it to their face Or let them know
Starting point is 00:37:57 Or make it public Let it be known Why hide behind the media? Don't hide behind the media You don't like somebody? Shit, let them know Hey man, listen So and so I really don't like you I don't like somebody? Shit, let them know. Hey, man, listen, so-and-so,
Starting point is 00:38:05 I really don't like you. I don't like your game. Look at your face. Your face is punchable. If you don't, I mean, just say it. Just say it. I hate when they do that, run behind the media
Starting point is 00:38:14 and they confide in this media, a certain individual, a certain person, and give them a storyline and say, well, make sure you make it anonymous. If you don't like somebody, just come out and tell them, man. Just come out and tell them. Well, I don't think, I think in this situation that, you know, they want it,. If you don't like somebody, just come out and tell them, man. Just come out and tell them.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Well, I don't think, I think in this situation that, you know, they want it, they don't want, because look, if somebody on your team, you're going to feel some type of way if your teammates,
Starting point is 00:38:35 the guys you go to battle with, saying somebody else better than Ocho. You're going to feel some type of way. You know what's funny? Anytime these people that are always anonymous and the source, you know what happens
Starting point is 00:38:44 if they say somebody's overrated, normally the person that they call an overrated, you're better than the person doing the talking that doesn't want to be disclosed normally isn't better than the person they feel is overrated most of the time it's hard for me to believe that they're only
Starting point is 00:39:00 asking like C-level players I'm sure, look when you have an anonymity or people don't think you're going to find out, it's just like when you're in your house and you're in rail and everybody else and they don't think anybody,
Starting point is 00:39:14 what happens? When your girlfriend or boyfriend get mad, yeah, that's why you did such and such. And that's why you say blah, blah, blah. It is what it is. That's how it is. Once you have the enclosure of your own home, people will speak freely.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And especially, especially, if I don't think nobody's going to find out. Find out. So if I keep it anonymous, yeah, man, that joke will suck. That's the idea. Who in the league would you least like to fight? James Johnson
Starting point is 00:39:45 was the overwhelming winner he's a I think he's a fourth or fifth degree black belt his entire family is a black belt
Starting point is 00:39:52 Steven Adams with 17% Isaiah Stewart with 6% hey James Johnson played for the Heat yes right
Starting point is 00:40:00 yeah he a black belt many times over I beat I beat his ass man I ain't trying to hit I ain't caring about no goddamn black belt that black belt? Many times over. I beat his ass, man. I ain't trying to hit him. I ain't caring about no goddamn black belt. That black belt don't mean nothing in the streets. Now, you got a black...
Starting point is 00:40:12 Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. That's your boy, man. Hey, he that type of dude that he don't... He look, you know, he don't look, you know. But you look at him. He got taps all on his neck. Yeah, all around his neck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Yeah. Yeah, I got 43 tattoos, too. What that mean? Man, you have 43 ass-cuttings, too. Hey, James, I know you're going to say, I love you, baby. I'm just playing. I don't want no smoke.
Starting point is 00:40:37 JJ, I like that. I don't want no smoke. Who's the greatest player of all time? With a whopping 46% of the vote, Michael Jordan was first. Yeah. With 42% of the vote. Michael Jordan was first. Yeah, with 42% of the vote. LeBron James was second. Third, with 10% of the vote.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Kobe Kobe being Brian. Yeah. In fourth place was Paul Pierce, Steph Curry and Magic Johnson. And he helped Paul Pierce. They slid Paul in there, huh? They slid Paul in there, huh? They slid Paul in there. They got that man
Starting point is 00:41:08 over Will Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Langford, Elijah Wan, Shaq. Hey, man, listen. Somebody knows somebody. Somebody knows somebody.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Paul done paid somebody to slide him up in there real quick. Paul Pierce... Listen, Paul Pierce had to name the truth for a reason, though listen, Paul Pierce had to name the truth for a reason, though. Right. He had to name the truth for a reason, but
Starting point is 00:41:29 at number four, greatest player of all time, there are so many others that are worthy. No disrespect to him, though. But here's the thing. Jordan has experienced some serious slippage for the third consecutive poll. Jordan in 2019 has 73 percent
Starting point is 00:41:46 right lebron had 11.9 nearly doubling yeah oh he was tripling and it was uh and what in 2023 it was 58 to 33 yeah not a gap is only less than four percent yeah but you have to understand jordan hadn't played basketball in how long? I mean, his aura, the mystique, the legendary, the king. Excuse me. LeBron is the king, but who he is, his reign supreme for so many years, long after he's done playing. Guess what? Obviously, the gap is going to continue to increase because LeBron is still active. LeBron is still active, and most of the people doing the voting, some of them that love and enjoy the game of basketball
Starting point is 00:42:27 might not even seen Jordan play. Some of the young kids, some of the young folk. So they don't understand his greatness because they wasn't here to see it. It doesn't matter. I mean, they know Jordan. I mean, he's one of the most recognizable people on the face of the planet.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Easily, easily. Those shoes. But, I mean, it's what players like the last 14 months, he broke Kareem's all-time scoring record. He led the Lakers to the Western Conference Finals. He won the inaugural in-season tournament, named to his 20th straight All-Star Game as a starter. One of three players to average 25, 8 assists and 7 rebounds this season.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Luka and Yoke. Yoke. No other player in the history of the game has done it after year 10. Right. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Which current coach, aside from your own, would you least want to play for? Tom Thibodeau with 47% of the vote. Doc Rivers with 9% of the vote. Monte Williams with 7% of the vote. Darvin Hamm. Man, how they put all the brothers on there. God dang, Ocho. Tom Thibodeau?
Starting point is 00:43:39 Tom Thibodeau a brother? But they got Doc, Monte, and Darvin. Three of the four brothers. 75% of the brothers. Listen, I like Tom Thibodeau. I don't know why he reminds me of somebody that was supposed to be on The Sopranos or something. Like he's part of The Godfather. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:55 When you listen to him talk, he sounds like he's part of the Italian Mafia or something like that. Obviously, Monty Williams, Darvin Hamm, and Doc Rivers. I thought Doc was a good coach. Obviously, again, I'm on the outside looking in. For some reason, Doc always has a damn job somewhere. He does. From the 76ers to the Bucs. Where was he at before that?
Starting point is 00:44:14 Oh, he was with the Clippers. He was with the Clippers. No, no, let me take that back. He was with the 76ers. And then he was with the Clippers. Clippers, right. He was with the Celtics. He was with the Magic.
Starting point is 00:44:25 For some reason, he continues to keep getting a job. He can get a job for some godforsaken reason. Either the players are going to bat for him and want him as a coach or he's just good with the personnel or the NBA coaches for that matter.
Starting point is 00:44:40 So I'm not sure why he's on the list. Yeah. You're building a roster from scratch. Who are you going with to sign first? With 28% of the votes, Victor Wiminyama was first. Nikola Jokic, Joke, with 27% of the vote, was second.
Starting point is 00:44:56 And man, Anthony Edwards with 10% of the vote, was third. I never told you that story. You probably ain't going to believe me. I know. I'm being serious that story. And you probably ain't going to believe me. I'm not. I know. I'm being serious.
Starting point is 00:45:07 But when Ant was at Georgia, when Ant was at Georgia, I went down to visit Cam. And Cam Newton was telling me about Anthony Edwards, this young fellow that plays basketball at Georgia. Whatever, I'm going to go down to watch him practice. And we went down to watch Anthony Edwards practice. And you know how I am when it comes to competing. You know, I feel like I can do any and everything. So I'm like, man, boy, you're nice. You know, I introduced myself.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Hey, I'm Ocho. And boy, you got game. You're going to be special. And I asked to play on one-on-one. And we played one-on-one. We went to 21. We went to 21. And that was pretty much it.
Starting point is 00:45:42 And from that point on, I understood what people are seeing now today. The Anthony Edwards in the NBA, I witnessed that while he was in college. Obviously, people that enjoyed the game of college basketball, they saw him tall and paid, but I didn't have no idea
Starting point is 00:45:53 who he was and I didn't know he was that special until I was able to see him and beat him one-on-one while he was at Georgia. But yeah, I just wanted to share that.
Starting point is 00:46:02 I appreciate that. The New York Jets, the New York Jets Trade former number two overall pick Zach Wilson Baby To the Denver Broncos Let's ride
Starting point is 00:46:13 The Jets will receive A 2024 sixth round pick And the Broncos will receive A seventh round pick In addition to Wilson The Jets and the Broncos will split the $5.5 million Wilson is owed in 2024. Yeah. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:46:34 Put some respect on Zach Wilson's name this season. I'm warning you. I'm warning. Listen, I'm warning you now. He's playing for your team. He's playing for your team. You had all that stuff to say about Zach Wilson when he was in New York. You had all that stuff to say. And one thing about quarterbacks, one thing about just people in general, sometimes the change of scenery is all
Starting point is 00:46:55 you need. Ladies that are in the chat, think about that toxic relationship you're in. And all of a sudden you got out that toxic relationship. You cut your hair, you change your hair color, and you found a new man. And all of a sudden, oh my goodness, life is great again. Zach Wilson is going to show you, and he's going to start.
Starting point is 00:47:12 He's going to start for the Denver Broncos in 2024 with Sean Payton at the helm and Sean Payton being the quarterback whisperer that he is. We're going to see a resurgence.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I've been in Drew Brees. Who did he whisper? Let me finish. Zach Wilson is going to be Drew Brees 2.0 under Sean Payton. Remember I told you this first. Denver fans, you got your good one on your hands.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Zach Wilson is going to show you why he was the number two pick or number one? Number two. He's going to show you why he was the number two pick in the draft. I'm telling you right now. I'm telling you right now. Zach Wilson, bitch. Help me understand this.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Sean Payton, other than Drew Reeves, who has he whispered? Who has he whispered? Yeah. If they had been a little bit more patient see this is in the Bible if you'd been a little bit more patient with the relationship between Russell Wilson and Sean Payton and allowed them a little bit more time
Starting point is 00:48:18 to jail to work their chemistry together he would have been the quarterback whisperer for Russell Wilson as well. But why didn't he do it when Drew Brees retired? Why didn't he do it
Starting point is 00:48:30 when Drew Brees left? I mean, they won a Super Bowl together, didn't they? Yeah. That's a good whisper. That's a very good whisper. Hold on. Did you hear what I said?
Starting point is 00:48:40 It's a faulty connection. Right. Outside of Drew Brees, who did he whisper? Well, there haven't been many other opportunities from the whispering in anybody else's ear
Starting point is 00:48:48 because he left coaching, came back to Denver one year, and then boom. They just parted ways. It's not an accident that he left when Drew Brees left. It's not an accident. Oh, because he understands
Starting point is 00:49:02 the difficulties in finding another quarterback. Oh, but he whispered. No, you you can't do that you said he's the quarterback whisper wait a minute come on now don't do me like that you understand how difficult it is to find an adequate quarterback to build around to continue to keep
Starting point is 00:49:17 a franchise going it ain't Drew Brees just walking through the goddamn door like that hold on. You think Zach Wilson is it? Yeah. What you talking about? Man, stop talking about Zach like that.
Starting point is 00:49:30 If he was it, Aaron Rodgers wouldn't be with the Jets. No. No. Let's not do that. When is the last time the Jets had a great outstanding quarterback? They jaffed him to be there. Let me finish. The Jets have failed
Starting point is 00:49:45 their quarterbacks for many and many and many years living off of great defenses when Rex Ryan was there. And that's no disrespect to any of the quarterbacks that have been through there
Starting point is 00:49:53 because I understand that you're only as good as your supporting cast and those they put around you. It's not their fault. It's not the players that have come through there. Every year,
Starting point is 00:50:02 we always say the same thing. The Jets don't have a quarterback. They don't have a quarterback. They don't have a quarterback. They continue to get quarterback after quarterback after quarterback after quarterback after quarterback. At what point are we going to fault the goddamn organization? At what point? True.
Starting point is 00:50:17 At what point? And stop blaming the goddamn quarterbacks. Because the organization keep picking the wrong player. That's what it is. Two things can be be true they pick the wrong player and the quarterback is some garbage okay no that's not it you know look everybody knows you can't convince no one except Zach Wilson family and yourself that Zach Wilson is a good quarterback. He is a good quarterback. He just went into an unfortunate situation and had unfortunate circumstances that he had to deal with.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And on the fact of going to the goddamn New York media that doesn't appreciate any goddamn thing, and they can kill you. Can you imagine going from BYU and then having to do with the New York media when things aren't going well? Oh, my goodness. If you're not built mentally tough
Starting point is 00:51:06 and being... That lets you know he can't play quarterback there. He can't play quarterback because what does quarterbacks need to be? No, regardless of the market. Mentally tough, mentally tough. Okay then.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Whoa, whoa, whoa. Thank you very much. That New York media is a whole different ballgame. It's a whole different ballgame than any other city. How did it do Eli? Huh?
Starting point is 00:51:28 How did it... Huh? How did it do Eli Manning? What do you mean how did it do Eli Manning? Did you see the team? Did you see the teams that Eli Manning was surrounded by? Did you see the offense, the players? Did you see the defense that Eli? Don't do that. Are we really comparing the apples and oranges here?
Starting point is 00:51:46 And what Eli Manning had to work with as a quarterback in New York? And a Giants organization that understood what it took to win and billing the pieces and putting the pieces around the quarterback so he can be efficient?
Starting point is 00:51:57 Are we comparing the Giants organization to the Jets? Let's not do that. I'm not comparing the quarterbacks either. I'm just saying from a mental standpoint you're saying it's about mental toughness
Starting point is 00:52:08 okay yeah yeah yeah I got you I got you I got you it makes it even worse that it makes it even worse that the New York media can attack the Jets organizations or the people in places in positions of power and it doesn't affect them at all and it just trinkles down
Starting point is 00:52:24 okay you know what? We're going to attack the quarterback. We're going to attack the quarterback and we're going to blame everything on him when most of it is out of his control. Let me ask you a question. When things go right, who get all the credit?
Starting point is 00:52:34 Name the time that when things go right, the wide receiver get the credit or the running back gets the credit or the O-line gets the credit. Who gets the credit? Ain't nobody bitching me Cole Hardman's game-winning catch. What are they talking about, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:52:47 Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They talking about Brady. Yeah. Somebody had to make that catch. Somebody had to make them blocks.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Okay. So, I just have a question for you. Do you think the fit is good? The change of scenery for Zach Wilson is good With Sean Payton? How do you feel about that? I don't What do you mean you don't, man? I don't
Starting point is 00:53:13 Okay You got Jarrett Sidham You got Ben DiNucci And you have Zach Wilson I like Zach, I think Zach Wilson Is going to beat Jarrett Sidham out for the starting job. I know that's going to happen. I'm telling you now.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I'm telling you before it even happens because I know. I know Zach Wilson. I know what he can do. There's no offense to Jared Stidham and what he's done so far in the NFL. So you don't think it's a good pick. I know it's a good pick. Man, look here, man. I don't think Zach Wilson.
Starting point is 00:53:46 I don't think Stidham. I don't think Ben DiNucci, I don't think any of them's good. What? Okay, well, Zach Wilson's going to show you. What do you think the Broncos do with 12, with the 12th pick? I have. I mean, listen, they've answered
Starting point is 00:54:05 The quarterback position I say they go With another wide receiver What do you mean Answer the quarterback position They got Zach Wilson now Man please Listen
Starting point is 00:54:13 This is a very very deep Very deep wide receiver class Jerry Judy's gone Jerry Judy's now in Cleveland What do you think about them answering What do you think No I see Me I don't like Taking skill position answering. What do you think? No?
Starting point is 00:54:29 I don't like taking skill position when the quarterback situation is unfluxed. It is an unflux. I just told you. Zach, what are you talking about? I just said that. Zach Wilson, Sean Payton. You don't understand the magic that
Starting point is 00:54:44 is about to happen in Denver. I'm waiting on Sean Payton to do something understand the magic That is about to happen in Denver I'm waiting on Sean Payton to do something Just like y'all waited on Coach Belichick To do something without Tom Brady I'm waiting on Sean Payton to do something without Drew Brees You know what you finna see it You finna see it this year I guarantee you that Matter of fact I'm a Broncos fan now
Starting point is 00:54:59 I'm a Broncos fan I'm a fan of all players I'm a fan of all teams But I mean I'm a fan Like I'm a Bengal fan you know I'm a Bengal I got I'm a fan of all players I'm a fan of all teams But I mean I'm a fan Like I'm a Bengal fan You know I'm a Bengal I got Bengal tattooed on my back I'm from Miami You know I'm a Dolphins fan
Starting point is 00:55:11 And the third team now I'm a Broncos fan Come hell or high water Broncos country Let's ride Zach Wilson Let's go Zach I know you're going to see this
Starting point is 00:55:22 I love you baby We're going to get it done Maybe they can take Maybe they can get Penix Jr. Or Bo Nix Penix Jr. is not going to be there at 12 Penix Jr. is not going to be there at 12 I can tell you that right now
Starting point is 00:55:36 He might be Shit No sir He might be No sir Oh I'm feeling good tonight What we got next? Let's go, Zach.
Starting point is 00:55:48 LeBron goes off on the refs. I don't understand what's going on with the replay, to be honest. D-Lo clearly gives hits in the face with the drive. What the F do we have to have a replay center if it's going to be like that? It doesn't make sense. It makes no sense to me. It bothers me. And then I just saw what happened in the sixth game.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Like, what are we doing? It's effing stupid. Anthony Davis has stretches where we don't know what we're doing on both ends of the floor. Nah. Listen, officiating has been an issue, not in just the Lakers-Nuggets game, but also officiating has been an issue
Starting point is 00:56:21 in the 76ers game as well where, if I'm not mistaken, I saw that they were going to complain. They were going to complain and file a grievance. Like, does that work? Does that even work? They're not going to play the game over. They're not going to give you a victory. So you just wasted your time.
Starting point is 00:56:42 They're going to deny the protest. Right. And the Sixers are going to be up 2 going to deny the protest. Right. And, and the six is going to be up to, Oh, the Lake is filing protests and it doesn't matter. This milk is going to be up to, Oh,
Starting point is 00:56:52 so it's just a waste of time. It's posturing. Cause what you're trying to do is that you're trying to get the officials on your side. And so hopefully you can get some, you can get some home cooking in your, in yours, but it shouldn't even come down to this. It could,
Starting point is 00:57:03 I should not even come down to the officials. And remember I told you, Ocho. Yes, sir. You don't put yourself in a situation, so a bad call or you needing a call helps you win the ball game. You shouldn't even have been in this position. You were up 20. You were up 9 with like
Starting point is 00:57:20 5 minutes to go. Right. You had a 3-point lead and had a chance to get a loose ball. So, nah, I don't, even if it was true. And I thought it was a situation
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Starting point is 01:00:06 if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Tyreek Hill went on the podcast
Starting point is 01:00:17 Million Dollar Worth a Game and had a lot to say. First, he told Gillian Wallow he would put up 175 yards and two touchdowns on prime Deion Sanders.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Talk your shit, Reed. I'm putting 175 on Deion. Oh! 175 touchdowns. On prime time. On prime! Currently top prime.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Let me see if I can get him on the phone. Hey, prime was a goat, though. But you got to understand, though, they played a lot of man-to-man back in the day. You feel me? And, like, I feel like generations has changed and receivers has changed. And we got so much stuff. And our generation know so many, like, crazy movements. And we know all this crazy stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:56 You know, Prime used to shut a whole half of a field down. Yeah. A whole field down. But he was going against, like, who? Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice, like, like how tall though? 6'2". And I'm what?
Starting point is 01:01:07 5'9". 5'9", 197. I'm quicker. He said 175. On primes. Two tubs too, don't forget about that. Oh, and there's two tubs on primes? Easy.
Starting point is 01:01:17 175, two tubs. You hear this? I'm so disrespectful with it. While I'm scoring, I'm doing his shit in the end zone. I'm doing his shit in the end zone with it. Then I'm going to point to him like that. You like that, don't you? You like that.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I like it. I like it. Listen, you see that confidence? I know people in the chat, I know you're watching that. And Tyreek really believes that. That's what we all have to do you all have to have that belief and listen the mind is the mind the mind is a powerful thing most of the time when you want to execute something you visualize it in your head you
Starting point is 01:01:55 visualize it upstairs and then you go out and try to do it obviously hypothetically speaking tyreek is fast as hell deon sanders in his prime curly curly prime he talked about was fast as hell. Deion Sanders in his prime, Curly Prime he talk about, was fast as hell as well. So I don't think it would have been anything as far as going deep, crossing routes, over routes, intermediate stuff. You know, I think it's possible
Starting point is 01:02:15 he could have a game where you have 175. Now you ain't just going to fly by prime and think you're just going to outrun him when he's just as fast. I tell you what, you better not throw no outs. Oh, no. Listen, if you do throw out, you better throw it towards out of bounds.
Starting point is 01:02:28 If you leave it behind, it's going the other way. It's going the other way. And then you got to understand, Prime is also exceptional in bump and run. He's exceptional in bump and run. But again, you got to understand. You got to have that wide base. You don't find how to get that wide.
Starting point is 01:02:42 That means you got to go all the way around that. You got to go all the way around that. You got to go all the way around that. And the funny thing is- He make you run the loop. Exactly. And he can run with you. He can run with you. So he had cut that off.
Starting point is 01:02:51 But again, Tyreek is special in his own route, in his own way. But I do see, I understand what he's saying about the 175 because he understands what you can and can't do, but he's never seen a DB of that magnitude. He's never seen a DB. There magnitude. He's never seen a DB. There's nothing like that in today's game.
Starting point is 01:03:08 There's nothing like that. Check this out. Then he said Mike McDaniels called him out. Mike McDaniels called him out after the playoffs lost to the Chiefs. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. A lot of guys aren't used to that. A lot of guys aren't used to sitting inside of a meeting room, being the best player on their team
Starting point is 01:03:25 their whole entire life and then a coach saying, bro, you f***ing suck this f***ing player. You ever had somebody say that to you? Oh yeah, for sure. Miami Dolphins.
Starting point is 01:03:32 You know what I'm saying? The player against Snead. The player, the Chiefs. Everybody see this player against the Chiefs with my f***ing family to the floor. He called me out.
Starting point is 01:03:39 He like, Reek, bro, you supposed to be the f***ing best player in the f***ing league and you got this guy putting hands all over you like that. Man, we pay you all this money for what and for me i love that because i'm gonna take that to heart and i'm gonna get better from it that'll never happen again to me
Starting point is 01:03:53 in my life man you feel me if a mother can not hold me accountable i feel like i'm not i'm not gonna be able to get better you know i'm saying the other guys in the locker room they're gonna look at it as oh if reek can can do it, I can do it. And that's not getting the team better. I need everybody to get better, bro. You know what I'm saying? Baby brother Waddle, I got him up under my wing trying to teach him. I'm like, bro.
Starting point is 01:04:13 He adult. I want everybody to get paid, bro. He adult. Everybody deserve it, bro. I like that. That's loud. But see, here's the thing. That ate at him.
Starting point is 01:04:22 That ate at him. And it's even worse today because you got social media. You got to deal with social media and social media. But obviously, you know, you got to be very strong. You got to be very strong as a player mentally for one to have a coach to be able to call you out in front of everybody. Does y'all have an understanding? Hell, I saw the same thing when I first got to New England. I'm like, wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:04:41 This is the first day and they had just lost the previous season. They lost to Rex Ryan and the Jets in the playoffs. And Bill Belichick used the first meeting to grill Tom Brady and putting up plays. This is why we're home. And this is what we're not going to do this year. And he got into Tom Brady in the meeting. I'm like, wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:05:02 If I'm not mistaken, you never talk to your quarterback. You never chastise your quarterback in front of a team. And that's the first thing they did. And that's the first time I ever saw it. And from that point on, I understood, okay, this is the Patriot way and everybody is held accountable and everyone is expendable here. And I understood that. But what we can talk about, I totally get in that moment, it ate at them. I'd never forget. A quick story real quick. I had a bad game. I think we played the Buffalo Bills. I had a very bad game. And I had a bad game. It was so bad. I remember Coach Lewis calling me out. Obviously, I had some of my teammates, TJ, who stayed on top of me when I didn't play well. He stayed on top of me when I didn't play well. And I felt so of me when I didn't play well. And I felt so bad after having that bad game. I think it was against the Bills. We played the Bills.
Starting point is 01:05:51 We played up there in Buffalo. And I remember going to my office of coordinator. I'll never forget this. Bob Rakowski. I played so bad. My check, I think the check, I felt I didn't earn my game check that week. So I took a $100,000 check.
Starting point is 01:06:06 I never forget. And there's some people that might be able to attest to this. You might be able to find it still on Twitter to this point. I took a $100,000 check to Bob Bercowski, who was my office accord at the time. And I said, I'm giving you this $100,000 check because I didn't earn my paycheck last week with that kind of performance. If I don't play up to par this week, I want you to keep the check. So I wrote him a hundred thousand dollar check. It had Bob Rukowski signed at the bottom and he knew I wasn't playing. I wasn't, I wasn't joking. And I went out that following week.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I don't know if, I don't know if we played the Ravens. I'm not sure who it was we played, but man, I went the, you know what off I went off. I went-what off. I went off. I went slap-ass off. I'll never forget that. But somebody has to be able to find that story or that tweet where I left Bob Rucalsi that $100,000 check because I played so poorly in that previous game. And the following week, I just went off.
Starting point is 01:07:01 And from that point on, I caught fire throughout the rest of the season. It was consistent. But that one game, that ate at me real bad, especially having Marvin call me out and then having to hear my teammates making fun of me as well. Ugh. That's a nasty feeling.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Yeah, it's tough. But, Rick, hey, man, look. Somebody going to get you again with that quick jam. But ain't nobody else out there. There are no other. There are very few people ain't nobody else out there. There are no other there's no nears. There's no other ones or actually the defense that they play
Starting point is 01:07:31 that two man that allows you to be aggressive like that. And then you also have to jump in your pocket anyway. So if he missed you with the initial jump, he's just going to ride you. If you got to say not too many DBs out there have the leeway or the skill set or the quick twitch fibers that want to get up there and pull that shit anyway.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Because if you miss, now you put stress on your safety. Brain on safety. Yeah. Yeah. They don't practice. I mean, guys practiced it. Right. I mean, you think a guy, he's up there, and all of a sudden he get ready to open up. And come right back in. Right. I mean, you think a guy, you think a guy, he's up there
Starting point is 01:08:05 and all of a sudden he get ready to open up. And come right back in. Bam! Listen, you know who was the best at that, Unc? Who caught me around in the middle of my neck
Starting point is 01:08:14 when I was a young pup? That goddamn Dale Carter, man. Oh, DC, yeah, DC. Oh, Lord, man. Lord, Unc, he caught me so clean and I thought he was getting ready to bail. Man, he came back so smooth. You know thought he was getting ready to bail. Man, he came back so smooth.
Starting point is 01:08:26 You know, he was real long. He was lengthy. Pause. Excuse me. Man, that arm caught me. And I couldn't move. And you know, back then, they could touch you at the line of scrimmage back then. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Man, I was stuck at the line of scrimmage. Man, his hand all up under my neck. Yeah. I was like, man, ref, what we doing? Man, Ocho, you dance at the line like when I first got in the league like in the 90s. If you dance at the line,
Starting point is 01:08:53 they coming up through that, hey, now you trying to adjust your helmet? They don't came up through your chin. Hey, your helmet? Yeah. Oh, they was some good days. Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't let you play like that now. No.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Because now if you touch a guy's face mask, you know, they're going to throw the penalty. The flag coming right at me. Man, they're going to knock your helmet cleaned off. Like, Ralph, you think I came with my helmet sitting up on top of my head like this? So how you think it got like this? Right, right.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Jersey hanging out over my shoulder pan. I said, you think I walked out? So when I came out on the field, this is how my jersey was. Right. Come on, ref. Good days. Michael Penich Jr. wrote a powerful letter to the NFL teams and he said, truth is I'd be more worried if I had been injured.
Starting point is 01:09:42 We don't all come back the same. I know storms. I'm prepared to weather. For most people that'd be more worried if I had been injured. We don't all come back the same. I know storms. I'm prepared to weather. For most people, that'd be the end of their story. But there's more to my story. And I own every page a bit. So I have no problem taking MRIs or x-rays if you ask me. Truth is, it's an EKG that will tell you everything you need to know about me. Come back hard.
Starting point is 01:10:05 I like it. I like hard. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. But listen, even with that letter, as dope as that is, as awesome as it is, there's something that teams can't measure that he has. You can't measure it.
Starting point is 01:10:27 You can't, and that's in here. That's in here. The letter is dope. It's awesome. You know, some owners, some teams, you know how they look at your medical records and it's frowned upon when you have injuries. It's frowned upon.
Starting point is 01:10:42 It just is. So it's dope and what he what he wrote and what he said but they hold they they always hold that against you of course always always it's a red flag to them it's a red flag to them but again michael pennix jr what you put up as a player at udub is enough in itself the resume speaks for itself so there was no point in even writing a letter because when you turn on a film, you know what the fuck you get.
Starting point is 01:11:08 You know what you get. Now, the one thing you can't help is you can't help the injuries from the past. But again, scouts and teams and owners, they hold all that against you. They always do. But I know what they get. The people that play the game of football
Starting point is 01:11:21 that have played in the past, we know what we get with you. And whoever gets you is going to be lucky. They're going to be lucky. He's saying you need to get the EKG. EKG measures heart. So that's what you need. That's what you need to measure.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Don't worry about the MRIs. Don't worry about what they say. Don't worry about what the x-rays say. Get a picture of that EKG and get that readout. Alvin Kamara and Raheem Mostert win the Catch Fishing Tournament. The event took place along the Fort Lauderdale, Florida,
Starting point is 01:11:51 and featured a total of 14 NFL players split into two pairs. Kamara and Mostert's team, Rising Sun, scored 500 points en route to defeating other boats. Kamara reeled in a mahi-mahi for the first catch of the day. Later on, team added total
Starting point is 01:12:07 when Kamara, Moster, and Toby Berthelot hooked three sailfish at once. Hey, we got them boys next year. Huh? We got them next year. We going out there on the boat. We gonna get them. You fish?
Starting point is 01:12:23 Huh? Do I? Listen, I've been in Miami all my life, man. I've been in Miami all my life. I ain't been on the water more than three times. I don't have the patience to fish. So if this is something that we're going to do, I need to start training for that now.
Starting point is 01:12:40 I need to start training. I don't have the patience to sit down For hours at a time And wait for something to bite Now playing video games I'm used to that Because I'm in control I'm in busy But sitting up
Starting point is 01:12:52 Sitting on the boat Maybe Maybe I can smoke a cigar Sure I can't listen to no music Because I can't scare off the fish They ain't got no ears They don't?
Starting point is 01:13:03 No You sure? Yeah How you ears. They don't? No. You sure? Yeah. How you know? Because I fish. I mean, just because you fish, I'm sure they can hear you. So why do people talk to plants and plants ain't got no ears?
Starting point is 01:13:20 That's just, you know. I mean, we talk to fish too. Hey, because you catch one and send it back. Hey, go bring your daddy. Tell your daddy to come home. I really think Fish could hear you, though. You saw Finding Nemo? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Why do you think they talked to each other in the movie? They were talking. They can't hear, though. They read lips. No, I really think. I really think. I'm not trying to be funny right now, man, I really think fish, I think dogs understand. Yeah, dogs can hear, dogs can hear, absolutely they can hear.
Starting point is 01:13:50 That's how they know, that's how they can know to come when you call. That's how they hear things. Dogs have very, very good ears. Right, and I really think... That's why dogs, they're either sight hound or smell hound. Smell hound, right. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a little off topic with that i don't know why i said dogs
Starting point is 01:14:06 but i really think fish i for some reason i really think fish have ears we just don't know about it because it hasn't been scientifically proven but for some reason i just i think if you don't know about it therefore it's like the tree falling in the forest does it make a sound yeah because nobody heard it. Right. All right. I don't know where I was going with this, but we're going to go fishing. I ain't never fished before. You know what I want?
Starting point is 01:14:33 I want to catch a Goliath grouper. You got to throw it back. You can't throw no Goliath grouper back. Yes, you don't even bring him up out in the water. You bring him to the side, you take a picture of him, and you let him go. Okay, well, we're going to do that. I'm going to out in the water. You bring him to the side, you take a picture of him, and you let him go. Okay, well, we're going to do that. I'm going to jump in the
Starting point is 01:14:48 water with him, Goliath Gruber. I want to catch one like... I don't want no gun. I want to catch one like 700, 800 pounds, though. You know how long it's going to take you to reel that thing in? About two, three hours. That's what you here for. You the muscle. I'm just here. I want to take the picture.
Starting point is 01:15:04 I ain't really nothing in Name something you wanna do For two or three hours straight Play Call of Duty Play EAFC FIFA I ain't nothing I wanna do For two or three hours straight
Starting point is 01:15:15 Definitely not Not something Not something strenuous Well hell What's the point of Getting that brush then That's what I'm saying That's what I'm saying You That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:15:25 You got to be careful who you put that on. I mean, because you put that brush on them. You see? You put that brush on them, Ocho, and put that on the failure system. I mean, you're trying to do some damage. You're trying to rearrange some engine parts, you know, some parts.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Right, right, right, right. And I ain't, you know. Reupholstering everything. Nah, nah, Ocho. I mean, like I said, that's what I said. That's why I don't really tell people where they can re-post everything. Nah, nah. Oh, so I mean, like I said, that's what I said. That's why I don't really tell people what they got, what you can get the brush from. Right. Oh, so they
Starting point is 01:15:49 sent it to me on Twitter. Don't worry about it. I know where to get it from now. Amazon got it here. Got here next day. Got here next day. So I'm waiting on the next argument. Drelle Michelle, age 39, Jalen Green, age 22,
Starting point is 01:16:06 had a cherry-themed celebration for the upcoming delivery of their baby girl, the couple who shot social media with their pregnancy news last month to a baby shower over the weekend. The parents-to-be wore matching red attire and festivities as Michelle posed with a
Starting point is 01:16:22 growing baby bump. That's dope. That's dope. Congratulations. Congratulations. They got on red. What's happening, blood? All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:16:31 But I mean, it's dope. That's exciting. Yeah. For both of them. But the thing is, I'm looking at him. My man seem extremely, extremely excited. Oh, he hype. He hype.
Starting point is 01:16:41 You know he hype. You know, you can tell this is, to me, for someone young like him, I think he's always had a crush on Drea. So this is something, obviously, when the opportunity presented itself, that he had no shame and no problem doing. Yeah, I finally got my crush. I actually have my baby. I don't care what y'all saying out there. Nah, nanny, boo, boo. Yeah, that kind of feeling And you can tell
Starting point is 01:17:06 Yeah, for sure His mannerisms His aura And his excitement You know, hell Sometimes dudes get women pregnant And they don't even show up To the baby shower
Starting point is 01:17:15 Yeah, for sure You get text messages Oh, I don't want it I'm not sure This is what I really want to do Man, buddy standing on 10 About that Yeah
Starting point is 01:17:23 I like it I like him and Andrea. That's dope. Yep. He happy. I ain't got to buy no Pampers, no Baby Formula,
Starting point is 01:17:33 no Pacify, no Stroma. It don't affect us, huh? No? Hell nah. They always talk about, hey,
Starting point is 01:17:41 G-R-R-R channel, we like them young girls. They the same age as his daughter. Yep, sure, they hang together.R-R, channel, be like them young girls. They the same age as daughter. Yep, sure, Lord. They hang together. Go out to the club and everything. Hey, I got Kayla to keep an eye on them.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Hey, baby, watch it. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? That's what I be talking about. I don't know what y'all be on. The greatest roaster of all time, Tom Brady. Tom Brady will be live on Netflix on May 5th, hosted by Kevin Hart with an all-star lineup of surprise roasters. No Brady rule, no pants, no mercy.
Starting point is 01:18:11 I like it. I just don't. Go ahead. I love roasts. I love roasts. And I've said this many times. We, or the A-listers, or the one-percenters, as you might call them, the Kevin Hart's, the Tom Brady's, us that are in that circle, we need to get back to having roasts and forget the era and the times that we're in in society and just let that...
Starting point is 01:18:39 See? You see what you just said? You can't. Nope. You know what I want to see? That's why when you just said, no mercy, everything goes, that's not what it's going to be. It's not going to be the authentic roast that we're used to.
Starting point is 01:18:51 I know you've seen it before. Hey, I see roast all the time. Listen, you remember the Dean Martin roast? Remember those Dean Martin roasts? Yeah, yeah. Carol Burnett, all those. Red Fox, Carol Burnett. Red Fox.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Don Rickles, yep. Boy, Don Rickles? Let me take my glasses off. Don Rickles, yep. Boy, Don Rickles? Let me take my glasses off. Don Rickles? Can you imagine if Don Rickles or Joan Rivers was alive today in this era? Yeah, they couldn't do it. I mean, look. Ocho, we understand that some things have a shelf life.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Right. And we have to understand that and we have to adjust to the times. Yeah. But it's not going to be a roast. It and we have to adjust to the times. Yeah. But it's not going to be a roast. It's not going to be a good roast because there are so many things, so many things that you can get people with. But you got to have a little dirty sense of humor now
Starting point is 01:19:38 to get the organic, authentic, okay, this is the real roast. This is the real roast. No. Oh, my goodness. Hey, Chad, okay, this is the real roast. This is the real roast. No. Oh, my goodness. Hey, chat, if you get a chance at any point, look up Don, forget Don Rickles, look up the Dean Martin roast. Matter of fact, look at the Dean Martin roast where they roasted Frank Sinatra. And just listen.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Listen to the Dean Martin roast where they roasted Sammy Davis Jr. There's a little racist undertone jokes in there. Okay, back in the end, they said things. It was so funny. It's so funny, but none of that stuff will fly today.
Starting point is 01:20:16 None of that stuff will fly today, but oh my God. Ain't no sense in trying to make it fly. You just accept where we are now. We are now, yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand, I understand. And keep it moving trying to make it fly. You just accept where we are now. We are now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand. I understand.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Keep it moving. Keep it moving. Ocho, now it's time for Q&A. Have we got Q&A already? Yep. That mean we finna get off? Yeah, shortly. Nah, hell no, we ain't.
Starting point is 01:20:44 What? Uh-uh. Oh, time out, we ain't. What? Uh-uh. Oh, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out. You folk, listen. We ended last night's show at 2.30 in the morning, right? If I'm not mistaken. Yeah. 3 o'clock.
Starting point is 01:20:58 I slept the entirety of the day. I woke up at 4.30 today. I was so excited for today's show. I text you when I woke up and told you I'm hype and I can't wait. So we need it. If we're going to do Q&A, we might as well do Q&A for the next hour.
Starting point is 01:21:14 No, we're going to do Q&A for the next hour. Well, I ain't getting off. Okay. Hold the chat down. Check this out. Mikey Mike, sorry, but when the Lakers play the Nuggets in the playoff queue,
Starting point is 01:21:24 it's a queue up that Jackson's Heartbreak Hotel. Yeah, it seems like that's what's going on, bro. Wait, what happened? This is Heartbreak Hotel. What'd he say? Michael Jackson, Heartbreak Hotel. You ever heard that song? No, sir. This is Heartbreak Hotel. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it seems like that way, Mike. It seems like that. We're not, we're shooting bad right now. Stramond Jones, why the expensive Dinwiddie on the floor? Oh, that's not nice. Well, tell me so we both know. I mean, who else you going to, if Dinwiddie not on the floor, who you going to put there?
Starting point is 01:21:58 Well, the same, when he out there, ain't nobody on the floor, so you might as well just go play four. That's not nice. Again, see, it's- Bro, the man missing point-blank layups. Everybody saw it tonight. He missed a point-blank layup. He got pushed.
Starting point is 01:22:14 He got pushed. That man ain't got nothing. Stop it. Now, see, that's why I come into play. Now, you imagine me. I told you coming off the bench. You know what? Never mindmind I ain't gonna mention that Gabe Vinson
Starting point is 01:22:30 I mean those two guys got some great cardio in tonight I mean they you know it's been a long season they getting cardio in that's all they did hmm oh uh Quentin Nas said they got to stop playing games
Starting point is 01:22:46 and start playing Max bro I'm not there I don't know why but I'm sure they have their reason not playing Lanny Ray okay guys we ladies in the chat need to know what you think what is more irresistible for you
Starting point is 01:23:01 for women to wear a sundress bodycon tight fitted dress or short shorts sundress for me i mean sundress but you also have to have the curves to make it appealing to the eye you got to have the curves having the sundress on having the body type with the sundress you know it to catch your attention for one yeah i mean you need to be poking out a little bit in the back. Something, something. Yeah, I mean, it can't be just straight down. Yeah. And the booty shorts as well.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Like, we call them here in Miami, Daisy Dukes. I'm not sure how, what other people call them in other places. Daisy Dukes is always a, okay, that's a nice sight. And, you know, when I'm with the missus as well, sometimes she'll point it out before I even see it, okay, that's a nice sight. And, you know, when I'm with the missus as well, sometimes she'll point it out before I, before I even see it and she'll tap me,
Starting point is 01:23:48 boy, well, look, they go, they go one right there. Yeah, I mean, short shorts,
Starting point is 01:23:51 I mean, they're fine. Now, if you gonna tell me the workout shorts that them girls be having on in the gym. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:23:56 that's too much. In the videos. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. You lying to me. I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:24:02 I don't like that. I don't like that. You don't like it? Listen, they put on, I. You lying to me? I don't like it. I don't like that. I don't like that. You don't like it? Listen, they put on, I call it, to me, they put on inappropriate wear for an atmosphere
Starting point is 01:24:13 that is surrounded by a bunch of men and then complain about the harassment. Like, let's, let's, let's. I ain't gonna harass them. I just look. I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 01:24:23 I'm getting my workout on. Yeah, I'm. You think that? It's just, it's just, it's too much. It's just, okay. I'm going to get my workout on. Yeah. It's just too much. It's just too much. It's too much. Ah. But I don't know. That's neither here nor there. But I like the short source to look at when you're out
Starting point is 01:24:40 and about, not in a workout environment in the gym. You know what I like? You know what I like, Ocho? What? They like those latex pants. You know what I'm talking about, Ocho? They like
Starting point is 01:24:57 plastic. They're not real. They're not real. Like leggings. Leggings? Yeah, but they like they like red. I see a few young ladies have on some red ones, have on black ones, have on green. But I
Starting point is 01:25:14 know y'all know what I'm talking about in the chat. They like, it's like leather but it's not leather. It's like it's like a latex. Yeah, I don't know what those are. What they call them pants? What y'all call them in the chat?
Starting point is 01:25:28 As soon as I see the picture, I'll probably know what you're talking about. Oh, I know you're going to know what I'm talking about. But they, I mean, they're just like, whoo! Mmm. Mmm. Yeah, they, huh?
Starting point is 01:25:45 Yeah, they, they like them, they're almost like plastic. You talking about yoga? Fox leather, yeah. Fox leather? Mm-hmm. I want to see what, I want to see what this is.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Fox leather. Fox leather pants. They're all, they're leather, yeah. It's not, it's plastic leather. Because we used to, that's what we used to call them,'s plastic leather. Because we used to call them fake gator shoes. We used to call them plastic gators.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Nah, this ain't it. But man, you know, something like that, you know. You found them? Nah. Oh, wait. Let me see if this is them. They real thin. They real thin.
Starting point is 01:26:31 These? No, no, no, no, no. Damn, what the fuck? Hmm. Eh. y'all ain't no help y'all don't know nothing I don't think the chat don't know what you're talking about they know what I'm talking about
Starting point is 01:26:57 it's like you know when people like I can't explain it when they ask a man one time they got him they asked him they said well what's pornography he says I can't explain it but When they ask a man one time, they ask him and say, well, what's pornography? He says, I can't explain it, but I know what it is when I see it. I can't explain these pants,
Starting point is 01:27:12 but I know what they are when I see it. Yeah. Yeah. That's the best definition I could give. Somebody said they're called liquid leggings. It does, because it looks like somebody melted them and poured them on them. I mean, because you can see every curve, every contour, everything.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Yeah, man. Yeah. I got to see them. Are they a solid color or is it printed material? They're solid. Like I said, I've only seen like black. I've seen black, red, blue. I've seen the nude color, but Ocho, they like, it's almost
Starting point is 01:27:43 like they sprayed on. Okay. Yeah, I have no idea. They call them TikTok pants. I don't know what they're called, but whoo, whoo, not locked. Ocho, Ocho, you posed nude to support Peter years ago? Would you pose nude? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot I posed nude, boy. I posed nude years ago um would you pull new oh yeah yeah yeah i forgot i pulled i pulled new
Starting point is 01:28:06 but i pulled new years ago but you know you know and it was easy for me you know i had i had and then there was a little there's a little controversy because i posed i posed new for peter and then boom people were getting on me about the me using the football to cover you know the three the three inches and it's like damn, ain't the football pigskin? Yeah. Yeah. They got on me heavy. So it was like kind of contradictory. Yeah, I couldn't do it,
Starting point is 01:28:34 Ocho. Huh? That couldn't do it. Because they said, man, you got an elephant in the head, ma. Hey, hey, matter of fact, I'm so glad somebody bought that PETA ad. I need to get that PETA ad blowed up. How did that come about? I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Oh, this was a long time ago. This was a long time ago. This might have been in my prime. I don't even know what year that was. Hey, somebody in the chat, one of the ladies in the chat, send me that picture of that PETA ad to my Twitter because I ain't seen it in years so I could get that, I could
Starting point is 01:29:09 take that to Kinko's and get that blown up so I could put it in my game room. I don't think Real never seen that. When Real see that boy, she might fall back in love. Fall back in love again? Yeah, she might fall back in love because she ain't never seen that side of me. Big Nat, my bro Christian Wood just made drill sergeant at the U.S. Army
Starting point is 01:29:27 over in Port Jackson. Y'all congratulate him for me. Also, there's an NFL team, a randomizer, where you're taking turns picking one quarterback, one running back, two wide receivers, a tight end, a defensive player from any era. New segment. Hey, Chris, congratulations, bro, on making drill sergeant in the U.S. Army.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Thank you for all you do to keep this country safe to everybody, men and women that protect this country so we sleep, rest easy at night and during the day. Thank you for your service. I salute you, homie. Salute. Adonis Darkworth
Starting point is 01:30:04 says, hello from Seattle. It's my 49th birthday today and a blessing to see another year love watching you guys ocho if you're ever up here hit me up and i'll take you to a dope skateboard spot happy birthday adonis happy 49th one year away hopefully you get to see the big five oh congrats many more to to come Tyler Petrosi says I'm 23 year old guy feel stuck in my hometown after moving back from college any advice from
Starting point is 01:30:31 Uncle Ocho he moved he said he moved back home yeah yeah that's good but it's always good to move back home too man for me and surroundings
Starting point is 01:30:41 your family your friends all you gotta do is lock in your yeah. All you got to do is lock in your... Yeah. Man, what you doing, man? What? We found the photo.
Starting point is 01:30:55 You see it? Hey, bro, I was sexy back then. Matter of fact, back then, the photo, that's when I was a sex symbol. Like, there was a list of top five sexiest men in the world. I was top five. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In what world? Huh?
Starting point is 01:31:14 In what world? Oh, everywhere, man. Back then, boy, I was, like you be saying, hey, I was hell when I was well, man. All right, don't get slapped in the back of the head, Real Steel. Nah, she sleep. Real ain't sleep.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Oh, she sleep. She sleep. She sleep. Yeah, boy. Back then, boy, I was a sex symbol, boy. Shit. Two months in the gym,
Starting point is 01:31:36 I could be right back looking like that. My question for you is, Tyler, why did you move back home? Why did you feel the need to go back home? Nah, look, there's nothing wrong with home.
Starting point is 01:31:46 I just know I didn't want to live in my hometown. It was a great place to visit. I could come for a couple of days, see my loved ones. I'm up out of town. The question is, why did you move back? And if you could go somewhere, where would you go? And what's stopping you from going? Icky Rod said,
Starting point is 01:32:07 Unk, Goat Titan, Goat Rod, Runner, much love. Y'all be at any Laker game. Unk, thank you so much for allowing me to meet my hero when you did to Kanye. Hey, no, I'm not going to go to any games. I got to go.
Starting point is 01:32:18 I'm headed to Atlanta in a couple of days, so I'm going to miss the game. You going to Atlanta? Yeah. I'm going to meet you there, boy. We're going to hit Magic City, what? When? You just said you're going to Atlanta, so let me know you're going. I'm just saying,
Starting point is 01:32:31 what, Friday night? Saturday night? Oh, it don't matter when. I ain't never been there, so you tell me what day to come. I get me like $200, $300 out of the ATM, but we're going to have a good time. Hell, they're going to call the 2300 to get in the dope. Who? Yeah, Cover Charge. $200, $300 to get in what dope have a good time. Hell, they're going to call the 2300 to get in the dough. Who? Yeah, cover charge. 2300 to get in what dough?
Starting point is 01:32:48 The dough of magic. Oh, my face clean. I ain't paying nothing to get in no dough. Oh, you ain't getting in. Oh, shit me. Boy, he going to let me in there. Listen, I pull a fire alarm because won't nobody dance that night. Won't nobody dance that night. They don't let me
Starting point is 01:33:03 in Magic City. I done heard all this about the wings and all that. Oh, the wings, fire. Oh, yeah, yeah. The food, fire. I don't lie to you. The food, the food like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Yeah. Don't let me in. Watch what happens. Man, ain't nothing like eating food on a damn light. Yeah. You know, what I own the plate, what I own something else. You know what I'm saying, Ocho?
Starting point is 01:33:29 That's what I'm looking for. That's what I'm looking for. Haley Thompson at Nightcap. Thank you guys for giving me motivation to finish college. I always look forward to watching Uncle Ocho. Ocho, you're my favorite. You're my top favorite NFL players. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:33:47 Thank you for watching us, Haley. We really appreciate the support. Let's go, Haley. That's how I know you know your shit. What I'm talking about. Oh, man, I forgot to bring them purses down tonight, Ocho. Oh, we can do it on tomorrow's show. We ain't on tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Huh? Oh, we on Wednesday? on tomorrow's show. We ain't on tomorrow. Huh? Oh, we on Wednesday? Oh, Ocho, you on Wednesday, huh? Oh, Wednesday. Wednesday. We're not on tomorrow. Alright, Wednesday, Wednesday, Wednesday. Bring them things down Wednesday. I'm gonna bring mine too. Please, please make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe
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Starting point is 01:34:57 and they end up winning the game 104-101. Jalen Brunson hits a three. Josh Hart steals the ball. Devin Chinzo hits a three, and they steals the ball. DiVincenzo hits a three and they end up winning the game 104 to 103. So the two home teams, Knicks and Nuggets, take the road up
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