Club Shay Shay - Nightcap NFL Recap - Part 1: 49ers Extend Brock Purdy + Boomer Esiason DESTROYS Caleb Williams

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

Recap the best NFL moments of the week as Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Brock Purdy reaching $265 million contract extension with 49ers, Boomer Esiason calling out Caleb Williams after recent comments, and much more!01:41 - Brock Purdy reaches agreement11:37 - Boomer went off on Caleb Williams20:32 - NFL owners to vote on new seeding22:41 - NFL gen manager–who’s your first pick?26:00 - Caleb Williams QB talk(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The volume. Forty-Niners and Rock Party have agreed to terms on a five- year, $265 million contract extension, including a 181 million in total guarantees. Highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL based on a year to year basis. Dak Prescott is 60 million. Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence at 55 million. Tua at 53.1.

Brock Perdy, 53. Jerry Goua at 53.1, Brock Purdy, 53, Jerry Golf at 53. Right where they have them slaughtered is a good number for him. Yeah. I mean, you go, Ocho, you got to think about it. The man made 2.9 million over the first three years of his career. Now he'll get a check every, every week for 2.9 million. Listen, he deserved it. Hey, well deserved. Well deserved. I didn't, I didn't, I like Brett Purdy.

I just imbue him at the tier one type quarterback. He had a superior supporting cast around him. You got Trent Williams, you got Deebo, you had Brandon Iuke. You got Christian McCaffrey in the backfield. How do you look once, once some of those pieces went away? It wasn't as pretty, huh? It's all about, oh Joe, when in real estate, what is it about? It's about location, location, location.

In the NFL, it's about position, position, position. He plays a premium position. No, A, he plays B, premium position. He plays a premium position. No, he plays the premium position. And so you're like, man, that house ain't worth no $40 million. Maybe if it wasn't in Bel Air, you're right. But it's in Bel Air. It's absolutely worth $40 million. And if you want it, that's what you're going to have to pay to get it. Well, a starting quarterback in the NFL that's going to a Super Bowl, he's going to two NFC championships,

he's won, that's what you're gonna have to pay to keep it. It's really, it's really, it's really that simple, Ochoa, you know, all that. Man, he ain't worth that. You work with somebody to play for you. He plays very well in that offense, and that's Shanahan Ochoa. He plays very, very well. He plays very well in that offense and that Shanahan uncle. He plays very, very well. Look, actually, he's probably worth more because he saved Kyle Shanahan and John Murch's job because they invested all that money in Trey Lance. They gave up all that draft capital to get Trey Lance.

They took this man as Mr. Irrelevant and the last picket was never the round. Now, if you don't take him and you got Trey Lance and you done moved on from Trey Lance you gone You go hey, I'll go to are you Danny then there's a see ya Everything see a lash you like people gone, right? Debo the and people we've got kiddos who else who else he who else he throw it to? Brad Brandon, I you could be back.

Juwan, Jenny. Rick and Priscilla. Well. Rick and Priscilla. Rick and Priscilla. Am I, you gonna be back already after ACL? Well, ACL don't take that long. It don't take.

Medicine different now, Joe. Medicine different now. He did it, he did it real early, so he'll definitely be back. So he did it like in September, so October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May, June, July. Oh yeah. We got a few players coming back. We got Brandon IU coming back off ACL,

Stefan D coming back off ACL. And it seemed like they're recovering faster because obviously technology is a lot more advanced and you know The rehab and stuff that they do is a lot more advanced. Yes Yes so players are coming back faster than ever especially once you get over that mental that mental block and Understanding that you could trust your knee and then be comfortable cutting and moving. Oh man. That's I mean That's the hardest part right there

In just three seasons he's passed for ninety five hundred and eighteen yards, sixty four touchdowns, four playoff wins, NLC championship and a pro bowl. So that's the that's the going rate. CJ Stroud is up next. Yeah. Yeah. CJ Stroud up next. Listen, he he finna get the bag. And the guap. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. CJ Stroud up there. Listen, he finna get the bag. Got the guap down, yeah.

Yeah. And you know, pretty soon you're gonna have Jane Daniels and Caleb Williams, they gonna be coming for it. They finna set the mark. They finna have quarterback out of control. Oh, they're gonna reset it. Yeah. Yeah, that seems to me, I mean,

They're gonna reset it. Yeah. Yeah, that's it to me. I mean I mean with Josh Allen got his whole contract guaranteed. Mm-hmm 265 oh Joe hey No, what he got with tacked on so it's like three things. Was that more than what was the Sean get? Deshawn got? Deshawn got 230 guaranteed. Damn. They got the same agent? No, Deshawn had David Mugaleta.

I don't know who Brock Purdy's agent is. David Mugaleta and I think all of them are athletes first, right? Who's, who's a Brock? Oh yeah. I've never heard of them. Deshaun David Mugaleta is his agent. I think all of them are the athletes first.

I thought Todd France who had, who has DAC. Who? Who? Who? Look at CEO Todd France. I think he's at athletes first. Mm-mm. Okay, yeah. So. But yeah, I agree with you, Ocho. I think Brock Purdy was deserving, had earned this, given what he had done, his resume,

a Pro Bowl, a Super Bowl, NLC Championship game, he had been going to two NLC Championship games. Remember he tore his elbow, best his elbow up like the first nap. That was a playoff game, wasn't it? That was a playoff game. Yeah. Yeah, and the NFC Championship game to the Eagles. So was.

And so, yeah, he earned this, he earned this big payday. I like to see guys, and I like to see teams reward the players. You play well, we're gonna reward you. Don't do all that haggling I hate that they haggle all other positions except for the back. What is that? This is like that ever? Yeah I hate I hate that look man. Hey, I understand that he's important, but I've done my job I've gone to pull pull bores. I've been two or three times first team all-pronged

And now you want to haggle me Hey They can always do it They always I'm trying to think who so CJ is gonna be up next year As a matter of fact if I'm the ravers I go ahead do something with Lamar what you mean signing Reese I Said yeah. Yeah, you gotta do.igning, I extend, yeah, hell yeah. You gotta do it again. Probably sometime in the middle,

I bet they do something in the middle of the season, watch. Either middle of the season or after the season. After the year, they gotta love. Shoot, he just signed that big one. He signed a five year to something. So what, he had just this third year into that, second year, this is the second year to it. But you got certain people that's getting ready to overlap him

and they ain't got no business. You ever know, hey, well you see, we just named three, six, eight quarterbacks and we ain't mentioned Lamar. Lamar's about, I think Lamar's about 50. They ain't got no business overlapping Young Bull. Yeah. Damn. Wait, excuse me, hold on.

I gotta use the bathroom real quick, hold on. Well, you better get him before he's, he's messing around with a soup bowl cause now you have to pay him 70 million. Lamar? Yeah. He has two MVPs. The only guy on this list that has a MVP is Josh Allen.

So Lamar has two. Dat doesn't have any. Joe doesn't have any. Joe has gone to the Super Bowl, but he's the only one. He and Brock Purdy that's on this list has gone to the Super Bowl. None of the other guys have been played in a championship game. Yeah, that's going to be the separator for Lamar. If he can get him one, if he can win one, it's over. Man.

It's definitely over if he can do that. What, they got to back that brake truck up? Beep, beep. Yeah, oh, for sure. But they definitely have a team. They resigned. They didn't resign, and they extended him. King Henry gave him $25 million, two-signed, they re-signed, they didn't re-sign and they extended him. King Henry gave him 25 million, two-year extension, 25 million. They extended him. I like Rashad

Bateman. I like the receiver core they got. They brought Andrews back. They brought Lively back, likely, Isaiah likely. They brought him back. Look, the defense is going to be solid again. Offensive line is intact. Lamar's gonna be Lamar. So, you know, they're gonna be consistently, they're gonna be pretty good. They're gonna be there. Yep. They just got, you know, the hardest thing is to break it through that wall the first time.

Once you break through, then all of a sudden, it's just like, it happens. But that's the hardest thing. You see, uh, uh, Josh Allen hadn't broken through yet, because seemingly they have to go against my homeboy. It's like, it happens. But that's the hardest thing you see. Josh Allen hadn't broken through yet because seemingly they have to go against my homeboy. Only half full of people have been able to stare him down in the, in the playoff game. And that's been Joe Burrow did it and Tom Brady did it.

Brady beat him in the soup bowl once and, uh, uh, Jaylen Hurts just got it, but it's tough. It's tough getting through that for a time. Boomer Assasin, damn, what happened? Boomer Assasin went off on Kayla Williams, calling him entitled. Says he needs to shut up. Keep your mouth shut. You're going into the greatest league that's ever been for a sport we all love. You're gonna have a chance one day to make 500 million

because guys like me and guys before me all went on strike so you could actually make more money. So keep your pie hole shut and go out there and play football and earn your keep, earn your respect. Keep your pie hole. Damn, boom! Boom, boom. I worked with Boomer at CBS for a decade.

And look, I have a personal relationship with him. He's always been good to me. He's really, I mean, he's really a great, generous guy. But he will now. He get on the radio, get on TV now, he gonna show you how he really feels. Yeah, he ain't gonna bite his tongue. He's been like that for a very long time.

He has, he has. These old school cats, man, they don't like these young dudes, these prima donnas coming in here, getting all this money and come. I got it a few times. Man, I'm full of. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

I was sitting next to him when he gave it to me. Oh yeah, oh yeah. And hey Joe, I love it too. Yeah, yeah. I love it man, I love it. I think the thing is, Joe, and you can look, I mean you made great money compared to the guys before you. the guys that came after you they're making money now in ten years from now Guys that were making forty fifty million off your life, man. They got this joke

Can you believe Joe he making 80 million? Hey, man That's great. That's just it is what it is. That's not it's just time You know, hey, it was a part of time won't show you can buy Cadillac for three thousand You get a nice three bedroom two bath brick home for 35,000 time is everything man Bro you can't even furnish your house number 35,000 By the time you put a big a I'm looking at they're trying to give me some patio furniture. Man, I looked at the price of patio furniture.

I said, no, don't worry about it. Yeah. Yeah. Man, four and $5,000 for a piece. One piece? Like for like a secret piece. A secret piece. Okay. Yeah. Patio furniture. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the

podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of 2B for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.

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I ain't been in the pool. I ain't been in the pool since I've been here. And I've been here a year. Shelly had her feet in it. Her and her girlfriend had her feet in it. That's it. You know how to swim? Are you scared?

I do. I do. Joe, you know how to swim? Or you scared? I do. I do. Joe, you know how to swim? Not like a fish. Oh, yeah. I forgot you live on a property. So I know you got to pool.

Oh, man. Hit it. This one we on? OK. The country boy know how to swim. OK. I know you know how to swim. Oh, what?

What? Come on, man. Every summertime, as a little shorty, as a little jit, I used to bring in Charles How they pulled with all my homies? Yeah, yeah Absolutely, man. I grew up in a boys club thrash the boys and girls club in Little Rock, man They throw you in they throw you in the deep end boy. You gotta swim gotta learn you got to

Yep You go you go up in the country it's hard not to swim because you're around water all the time. Oh yeah. And then, you know, I got all these cousins and everything. So, hey, I was the youngest. Hey, if you could, hey, I saw them do it. They jump in, hey, I jump in right behind them. But hey, Lord, if they let something happen to me,

ain't nobody gonna. Everybody. Hey, hey, hold on, Uncle Ojo something happen to be, ain't nobody gonna go. Everybody ready to go. Hey, hey, hey, okay, Ocho, in the country, you know, I see people jumping in lakes and everything. I know Florida water out there, Ocho, y'all don't jump in no lakes and nothing, do you? Yeah, yeah, you know people. Gator, take your ass apart.

Lakes, canals, obviously the ocean, but any body of water, people getting there. But you ain't, hey Joe, you ain't just see the man with the alligator. Canoe, he was canoeing with his wife. Oh, he was running from the cops. What? He jumped in the water with the alligator,

so the cops couldn't come and get him. And he sat there arguing with the cops and the gator, the gator right there by him. And the gator came close to him. He fighting with the gator and refusing to get out in the water. You ain't see that? Nah man, the gator wasn't big enough to really hand him like he wanted to, but the gator tried to, you know, take a little bite of him, but he was too small. He was too small to do something with him. I don't, I listen, I don't know how long it took the cops to get him out that water, something with him. I don't, I don't, listen, I don't know how long it took

the cops to get him out that water, but he was, he was in deep where they couldn't get to him. And we got, boy, if that gator was any bigger. Now I seen, I seen, I seen the story where a man and a woman were canoeing and the gator took his wife. I said, what? I said, yeah, the gator took his wife, he's his wife. And I started thinking, man, did that man take his wife out there on

the canoe trip to get rid of her? I'm trying to understand how I get the wife and not, well, okay. They only, they only attack one person at a time. That was Florida. That that definitely wasn't Florida. It wasn't Florida. That canoeing, yeah, that was. It was Florida? It wasn't Florida.

Yeah, they was talking about you need to watch, you need to be aware in Florida. What? Oh yeah. And keep small pets, cause a lot of times people get their pets smashed, cause they walking in close to the canal, Ocho. And you gotta realize the gators are ambushing. Yeah, correct. So he going to light this beast. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, that thing, your dog like that? Oh, absolutely.

Jumping in at a grand gator, open it. Yep. Yeah, you. And now guess what? And guess what? In every gator I see from that point on, he gonna be dead. I'm gonna be a vigilante.

Every day I see, he knows how to change. He gonna be better. Hey, you gonna be traumatized. You gonna be traumatized. You gonna be traumatized. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Oh, anything, oh yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Bear, it don't matter.

Cause like now, I don't really like, but when I like, when I walk my dog, when we had a dog, I always had a thing on me. So I'm walking at night just in case. So bear, bobcat, anything. Oh, you gonna get it. Yeah that thing. What you were carrying? What you had an AR what? Okay Die hell dog, baby. I ain't trying to take that no city No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, will be decided strictly by their record. A non-division winning team would be seated higher than a division champ if they have more wins. What you talking about in the game, Ocho? The whole thing is to win your division. You can't look and see the thing is you take one isolated incident, Ocho.

You took Minnesota. Okay, Minnesota was 14 and three. Now they're a lower seed than say somebody won 10, but you didn't win your division. How many times have a 14 win team hasn't won the division? When it just so happens you were in the division with a team that was 15 and two. The chances that happened again, probably ain't gonna happen like that again for a while.

Just honestly me, leave the game alone. Leave the game alone. Leave it how it is. You know? I think we're, well the people in position are... They're tinkering too much. Yeah, they're doing too much fluid. I feel bad for people that play on the defensive side of the ball.

And I'm an officer player or handicapped so much. They can't even play what we have come to love and know as a game of football and it's true art. You just can't, you can't. We need a game alone, please. Joe, you know, they removed, didn't they? I think in the NBA, they removed division winners, right? Did they remove division winners?

As far as getting higher fees. I don't think there's an NBA, no. Cause it used to be like that. Yeah. If you want your division. Yeah. I, yeah. Automatic.

Yeah. Yeah, it did. No, I don't want to do that. Oh, don't, don't, um, don't, um, don't do that. Hey, it's not J 17 say Ocho. I'll get Ocho. You're an NFL general manager. Who's your first pick, dead or alive?

First pick? Start a franchise with obviously, right? Yep. I'm taking Brady. You can't go wrong at the quarterback position. If you give me an offensive player, I'm taking Tom Brady. You give me a defensive play, I'm taking LT. I was gonna say LT. Defensively, I was gonna say LT.

Yeah. If you start with any other position on offense, you crazy. I'm taking the quarterback. I'm taking Tom then defensively I'm taking LT. Give me give me I'm gonna give me give me a Joe Montana okay and give me LT on the other side. Who you starting who you starting? Who you starting your franchise with Joe? Shit, I'm talking to Ocho. You know what he said? Joe said he's starting a franchise with Ocho. I'm probably, I'm probably going to go with, I'm probably going to go with my homes. I'm probably, I'm probably going to go with, I'm probably going to go with my Homes. On defense. I don't know. I say, I say Ray.

I say Ray Lewis. Go on. Okay. Oh, that's good. After you saw what I did to Ray, you going to pick Ray? Well, I saying Ray smack you come across that middle. That's one play. What about the other hundred plays I smacked him? I ain't...

And then you ran into him in the end zone and knocked him out. That's one time. Oh did he? No, he hit him cross-cut across the middle and then he's elbowed out. You saw I got up in the beat his ass, right? You saw the top end I got up? What happened? What happened? What? You got up finna beat his ass, right? You saw what the top ass I got up? What happened? What happened? What? You got up, what happened? Hey, what? Ed Reed had to hold me back.

Oh, okay. Hey, I was by the street, gray ass boy. I got hit, I jumped for the ball, man he hit me up underneath my chair, my helmet went flying. Hey, I swear for God, Joe, before I hit the ground, man I was getting up, he hit me up underneath my chair, my helmet went flying. Hey, I swear for God, Joe, before I hit the ground, man, I was trying to get up before I. I thought your head was in the helmet. No, no, no, no. Ray was finna get these hands.

And let me tell you about the story, Joe. Go ahead. The air stopped. So I waited for Ray outside the locker room, and I think he went out the back door, cause we were gonna have to square up. up. Yeah. He hit me like that. So I went to the team bus and was banging on the you know banging on the door but he never come outside. Yeah. Yeah. You know you know they call it hey they call me Hella hands right. Yeah. Yeah they call me Hella hands. I know that. Yeah that's

why I ran on the pipe. Sometimes, like if I fight somebody, it's like, it feel like you fighting two people. Like that's why they call me Hella Hands. Yeah, they call you Hella Leg because you a run. Yeah, I mean, if you call a route, yeah, I'm a run, that's about the only time. In the book, American Kings,

a biography of the quarterback, author, ESPN's reporter, Seth Wickersham, describes how Caleb Williams was so concerned about being drafted by the Bears Kings, a biography of the quarterback, author ESPN's reporter Seth Wickersham, describes how Kaelin Williams was so concerned about being drafted by the Bears that he and his family weigh in circumventing the entire NFL draft. They spoke to lawyers to find a way around the league's CBA and considered signing in the U.F.L. Chicago is the place where quarterbacks go to die. Carl Williams, who's his dad, said ahead of the draft according to the book.

In addition, none of the Bears coaches last season told Caleb Williams to watch film or give him zero help. No one tells me what to watch, I just turn it on. Ocho, what do you break about that repetition? I mean, it's obviously, I mean, you look at what has happened to all the quarterbacks who have been a part of the Bears organization, and you could understand why Caleb Williams and his father felt that way. They felt that way for a reason. You know, look how they treated everybody that's come through that organization that has played the position.

And the quarterbacks that did have success, they had success simply because the defenses in Chicago at the time were amazing. Really good. So all you had to do was just facilitate and don't turn the ball over and defense would take care of everything else. That thing because we are in a great situation now, especially with the supporting cast they have around them, that addition of Ben Johnson and the rest of the coaches on that staff, I think this is going to be the Bears' best year year yet and they're gonna surprise a lot of people.

Every football season the main guns are always in contention. Your Eagles, your Bills, your Ravens, Bengals if we start off to a fast start, your Chiefs, your Lions and for some reason I don't know why and you can quote me on this, and that goes for everybody else in the chat. The Bears will be in contention in one of those teams buying for a playoff spot and challenging for Lombardi, simply because of not just the quarterback play, but with a great understanding of what Ben Johnson and his offensive creativity can do for a skill set, for the skill set that Caleb Williams has.

And I'm going out on a limb and I'm saying that because I saw what he did in Detroit with Jared Golf. Yeah. And he has a more athletic. Look, I'm not surprised by this. Carl Williams, who's Caleb Williams' father, it is his job to protect his son and put him in the best possible situation. I don't have any problem with

that because he said look you look at all the quarterbacks, Mitchell Trubisky, you look at Justin Fields, you look at Rex Grossman, you look at all the quarterbacks they've had. They haven't had any luck with the quarterbacks. It is what it is. And so he's well within his right to make sure that he's trying to put his son, his son is going to the best situation that gives him the best chance to succeed.

Now, what do you think about the watching film, not giving the coaches, not giving him any direction? I don't know, that's tough right there, especially at that position. Before you touch the field, the only way to prepare is by watching film on your opponents and knowing what you're gonna see, you know, day to day, week to week.

So it's hard for me to believe that that there is no instruction in that area, especially for the most important position on the field who has to know everything that's going on, especially your opponent. So that's, I don't know, that's a little tricky, uncle. I think maybe they thought you were a quarterback, played in a top five program.

You got that where you were the USC. Maybe they just took for granted because a lot of times they, they take for granted like, bro, you played a big time program, bro, we ain't got to go over that. We can go ahead and skip that step and start getting something else. Now, I just want to say this for us, for me, the way we got tape cut-ups, Ocho, it was first and third, first one, third one to three, third and three to five, third and long. But we had cut-ups, cover one, cover two,

cover three, cover four, two man, cover six, you know, whatever the case may be. So it was broken down, so we watching it. And so we see this is what they do in cover three. This is the front they give us. This is the coverage they play behind set front. I don't know. And like I said, I think maybe it was a situation

they thought he already knew how to watch film. Everybody, I didn't know how to watch film. Because we really didn't have to watch film, Ocho. Hell, HBC, you playing man coverage. Hell, what the hell you think you gonna get? It wasn't about the disguise or nothing. no cover to it wasn't no single high It wasn't no six kick. It wasn't no 88 what no box post. It was none of that. It was man. I Would have expected to be man

So I need to be a pearl What are you doing? Why he played out? Oh drop out little asking why he got me man example, what he doing? Why he ain't, oh Joe, I'm a little asking, why he ain't got me made, what he doing? Right, right, right. But nah, it's cover two, what the hell is cover two? I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company,

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Listen to Good Company on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So they had to break me all the way down in order to build me back up. And nobody made me feel stupid that I didn't know. They know I went to a program. I went to an HBCU, Ocho. We ain't got, we didn't have receiver coach, tight end coach. No, we didn't have all that. No.

And that's one of the things that I really enjoyed, Unc. That it's not glorified on my end because of my style of playing, the way I play the game. But I was a student of the game, huh? And that's a part of it, people didn't even realize I wasn't able to go out there and do what I did by not studying like a goddamn third. Because it's overshadowed by the fun and the entertainment

and the celebrations and the flamboyancy and all the shit talking. But dude, but when it was time to watch film, oh my goodness, I needed to know everything. I needed to know everything. I needed to know what they, Travis was our person who broke down our film for me. He was our camera guy, our video guy in the department.

I had him break down all the clips of the previous four games of the individual. You know I got the number one corner every goddamn game. Travis, I need everything on first, second, and third down, right? On these down the distances. In our area, before we get cross the 50, and when we cross the 50, what they like to do.

What covers am I gonna get? Is he gonna bump? Is he gonna play man? I'm looking at everything. Is he a shade inside? Is he head up? Does he like outside leverage? Know when the safety comes in? So I'm talking at everything. Is he a shade inside? Is he head up? Does he like outside leverage? You know, when the safety comes in. I'm talking about everything.

I can tell you, I can tell you based on down and distance. I can tell you what they gonna run when I'm coming out the huddle. And I know it. And I knew it. That's why I had such a confidence in my approach to the game. Because I studied like a goddamn... like a nerd. That's the only reason where that confidence came from. It wasn't about my talent or my skill or, you know, me running around and just, I know what you're doing before you even do it.

That's the snap of the ball. And that just, oh my God, man. Now, towards the end of my career, when my body wasn't able to react, you know, the way it was when I was in my career, when my body wasn't able to react, you know, the way it was when I was in my prime, being able to study for them and knowing what was happening before it happened gave me a little bit of an edge when I might have lost a step a little bit. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. And I think that's the thing. You look at down in distance, I mean, we going over what they like to do in down and distance. What they like to do in red zone. What did I like to do back there? They got you backed up. This is the coverage they like to play.

But that was always on tape. And so I'm looking and then so, like I said, guys, look, I'm not trying to belittle anybody. I'm just saying, maybe they thought this is something that he already knew. And so they didn't give him the instructions that he need. Me, I'm looking at it from the way we had it in Denver. It was broken down. You plug, hey, 31 to three, cover one.

31 to three, cover two. 31 to three, quarters. 31 to three, six. Two man, okay? 35 okay 35 30 long backed up midfield red zone mm-hmm hey hey you know it when they play eight okay nickel we will get a visit the cover the eight they don't gonna play a handful of cover they're not gonna get all that get to be exotic they like saying that they like to do a couple of things that they try to catch you off guard

But when they're nickel defense is what I like to play and you know who the worst was the watch on film on It works because you know you study coverages and you study things that teams like to do But they had the personnel the goddamn Ravens and the goddamn Steelers during the 2000s Yeah, they got... And they doing all type of exotic shit. Troy Pallum, I look wired and fucked. That's Rick Ryan, that's Rick Ryan. I'm on camera, go.

I'm on? Yeah, I can't see you. I'm gonna wait till you come back. Okay, well anyway, anyway, chat, listen, the goddamn Ravens and the Steelers from the 2000s, that 2000 era, all that cover too, and they had all type of exotic stuff that just it was like, it was confusing. So no matter how much film you watch, there was no telling what you're gonna get on game day. I come out the goddamn huddle, you know my split tight. I'm looking at the safety. What a goddamn safety at? Hey, I'm looking goddamn Troy Palamalo in the goddamn a-gap. What the fuck are you doing?

In the goddamn a-gap. So I'm hype. I'm thinking I'm looking at Carson. I'm hitting Carson over that yee-hee. Cuz I'm thinking it's just me and Ike Taylor one on one. Man, I'm looking inside at the snap of the ball. I look back up, I'm running my route. This goddamn Troy done got way back to the, to the goddamn third at the snap of the ball. Yep. That damn Ed Reed.

He's playing safety. He all the way in the back like it's part return. Now what you doing? Just turn around. So Ed is doing the opposite of what most safeties do. They sit there and they backpedal back. Ed playing the game the opposite way. He start back and come forward. Yep.

I love playing the Raiders and the Chiefs because you ain't getting my man. The Raiders, man to man. Chiefs, man to man and they right in your face. Dale Carter and James Hastie right here and they had they had uh uh uh James Hasty right here and they had, they had, Albert Lewis and Kevin Ross. And with the Raiders, they had James, they had Washington and they had Keyback, Terry McDaniel, right there. They right there.

Once again, every time. Hey, my company say it's real simple this week, guys. You gotta beat man coverage. Now if you can't beat man coverage, you either coaching or selling cars. Now my coaching staff filled up, I can't hire you. John, you hired anybody? You got new sales people you need to hire? Nope, coach I'm good.

Okay, you gonna be without a job. Wickersham also said the Williams family thought of publicly attacking the Bears and the city of Chicago to try to force a trade. Concerned that the team would refuse a trade to him regardless and cause a worse situation, Caleb told Wicking Sham, I wasn't ready to nuke the city. I can do it for this team. I'm going to the Bears. I like it. I like it. I'm telling you, a lot of people might say what I just said, you know, it's laughable. It's a joke.

They're a shit franchise. They might not like Kayla Williams for whatever reason, but I'm telling you, you got a quarterback like that and you get offensive coordinator with that kind of creativity, understanding the strengths and the weaknesses of the supporting cast that Kayla Williams has around him. Man, I think the sky's the limit. Look at the additions that he got. They fortified that offensive line. They drafted another offensive weapon at the tight end position. You got Roman Dumes there.

You took number one overall. You just resigned, redid DJ Moore. So you've got weapons out the yin yang. You've fortified it. So he should not be getting attacked from the defensive perspective. Like he had, like he got last year So with that be I think they got Joe they got Joe Tooney I didn't excited guy from the Rams didn't get to the offensive lineman from the Rams

But they fortified their offensive line now look he's gonna have to do a better job of not holding getting rid of the football Sometimes you got to know when the journey's over throw it away live to see another day don't take your team out of field goal range and don't make it third and long some things is gonna be in his hand I think he has a better understanding of that having played the game got a year up on his belt Ocho things are slow down for him this year I know he's gonna put the work in. I've talked to the young man, and I know he's gonna put the work in. And so I'm excited. That's a very tough division, Ocho.

I mean, you got Green Bay. I mean, think about it. Green Bay went to the playoffs last year. Minnesota went to the playoffs last year. Detroit went to the playoffs last year. And listen, chat, quote me and remember this. Whatever day it is, it's Friday, Friday, May 16th. I guarantee you the Bears look like a totally...

The day Thursday. It is? What am I? Oh, well it depends on where you are. I'm in LA, but my computer's safe. Okay. It's Thursday still. But I'm telling you, the Bears,

every year there's a team. Every year there's a team. Yeah, there's a couple of teams that pop up, you know, you didn't think they were gonna be in the playoffs, and they end up being. Now I's a team. Every year there's a team. Yeah, there's a couple of teams that pop up, you know, they think they're gonna be in the playoffs and they end up being. Now I hit a time, and I'm rarely wrong when I have my takes, even though they might sound terrible at times,

but for some reason they always, they turn into fruition. The Bears will be a team that's just like. Who did sign offensive line? And that goddamn Jalen Johnson. Yeah, Jonah Jackson, yeah. So they fortified their offensive line, Ocho. Yeah, Jonah Jackson. Yeah. So they fortified their offensive lineman.

I know Joe. They spent big money. Yep. They got a center from the Falcons. They got offensive lineman from the Rams and they got Joe Tooney, who's a Pro Bowl player, who's been an All-Pro. So they've done, they've done what they should do to make sure the offense flows smoothly. I think, uh, uh, uh, uh, Caleb Williams takes another step.

He gets better. I think they take off, but they don't have a choice because they're in one of the toughest divisions in football. Yeah. They're in one of the toughest divisions. They might be the toughest division considering they had three teams represent the, uh, the NFC in the playoffs. Three of their four teams represented the playoffs.

AR. AR. I mean they had what? A 15 and two team, a 15 and one or a 15 and two team. They had a 14 and two, a 14 and three team and they had what? A 10 and seven or 11 and 16. So probably going to take you 10 wins, 11 wins just to make the playoffs with you And I believe they have they have the talent I mean like I said I think that they did they did what they need to do offensively

To make sure because at the end of the day you ain't doing nothing Okay, how good your defense is if your offensive trash you ain't going nowhere, bro You're not you wasting your time. And so they like look we got the number one overall draft pick Let's cut down on some of these sacks. I think he was the most sacked quarterback in the NFL. So if he can take 20 sacks off of that number, get his completion percentage up, I think he was 62%. Get that up around 66, 67.

It's going to be all right. I think they'll be fine. Because I like what the Bears have done. I like the hire of Ben Johnson. I love the addition of the tight end for Michigan. Although I thought Warren, the guy from Penn State, better in my estimation, he was better than me. If I had to grade him, that's what I would do.

But hey, they went with who they thought was gonna be the best in their situation. I don't have a problem with that. But, um, I mean, you hear rumblings behind the scenes that, you know, he's thinking about Chicago, it might not be the place for him considering they haven't developed a quarterback in an extended period of time. Hell, I don't know if they've ever developed a quarterback. You have to go back way, way, way.

Like I said, they had Rex Grossman. What was the guy that got from Purdue? Uh, ended up going to the Broncos? Kyle Lorton. Yeah, I remember Kyle. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, uh, uh.

So look, it was reported that he wanted to go to Minnesota because he and O'Connell hit it off. He said, man, I really love to play. Maybe he saw a Jetta over there, Parkinson, Addison. That probably didn't hurt either. But I think he did a great situation. Look, you went in Chicago.

You went in Chicago, they gonna love you. That's an old school team. They love big Bears. They've been around in this thing for a hundred plus years. They love the Bears. They love the Bears players. That was a football town. I mean, they love the Cubbies too now.

So I think the Bears is all right. The Cubbies got what was that, 2016? When did they win the championship? 2016? After 100 plus years. They're like, okay. All right, Bears. Y'all ain't won since 85, 40 years. Come on now. The Volume. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of 2B. We dive into the competitive world of streaming.

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