Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - NFL Week 2 SNF Reaction

Episode Date: September 18, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson discuss Deion Sanders and the Colorado Buffaloes hanging on for the win over Colorado State, the Dallas Cowboys beating the New York Jets, Joe Burrow’s continued struggles causing Cincinnati Bengals’ 0-2 start, the Denver Broncos not winning with Russell Wilson, and Stephen A. Smith's beef with Terrell Owens.  #Volume #Club #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I am Unk Shannon Sharp. He's my co-host, Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. And let's not waste any time. Last night, one of the best college games, Ocho, that I've seen in a very, very long time. In-state rivals. There was a lot said. Jay Norvell took his shot and you know my mom taught me that when i'm in a room i don't take i take off my sunglasses i take off my hat basically implying or inferring or you can make reference to that deon sanders mom

didn't raise him the correct way but there was a lot to be said. And so we knew the game was going to be a lot of pushing and a shoving. And I thought they'll let the emotions get, get away from them for too long. I understand that, you know, look, you can't take no shot at my coach. You can't take a shot at my family because I'm gonna take my shots back at

you. And so for me, Ocho, I thought it, I thought the coaches, both coaches should have got a hold of their team a lot sooner. Thatwithstanding, it was an outstanding ballgame. What was your takeaway?

Listen, it was a beautiful ballgame. It was a great ballgame. Penalties, in fact, are the reason why Colorado State didn't win that game. 17 for a buck 82. Except for a buck 82. If you take away some of those penalties and had a little bit more discipline, if the coaching was better. Yeah.

Did his mom teach him that? His mom ain't teaching that. He wouldn't have been able to stand on that hat and glasses comment. But obviously, it didn't go in his favor. But that was one hell of a goddamn game. All jokes aside, that was a great game. One of the best collegiate games I've seen this year so far. Oh, it's the best game I've seen this year thus far. One of the best games

that I've seen in a very long time. You say 17 penalties for 182 yards. One of two things is going on here, Ocho. Either you're coaching it or you're condoning it. Which is it, J. Novell? Coach players take on their coach's attitude.

Attitude, yeah. So either you coach that or you condone that. There were two cheap shots, and it almost put out one of their best players. It put out one of their best players, Travis Hunter. I don't know why that's not a targeting call because the safety waited until his guy got out of the way and then lowered a cheap shot on Travis Hunter. And then we saw the defensive end, Kamara, waited till his guy got out of the way and then lowered a cheap shot on travis hunter and then

we saw the defensive end kamara basically bear hug after the ball is thrown pin him so now he can't get his arms out to protect himself yeah and drop all of his body weight on top of him and jay novella is talking about after the game well i don't know how we doubled him up in penalties because you were playing dumb football. You're coaching dumb football. That wasn't even coaching dumb football. That was, it's okay. I'm going to take that one. That's what that coach said.

So he's condoning it. He condoned that. You can tell by the safety's mannerisms after he made the hit. He relaxed. He's not even chilling. He knew it was okay to take that shot. Right. And he knew, said, if you get a flag, don't worry about it coach that was on me i guarantee you you could you could just tell

you could tell yeah they were trying they were trying to send a message because there are a lot if i'm not mistaken i think uh the buffaloes were favored by 24 points obviously they didn't win by 24 and the game was in the balance you have have an 11-point lead in the fourth quarter. And if you play smart football, you play disciplined football, as you mentioned earlier, you're probably going to get out of Colorado, out of CU, out of Boulder with a W. With a W. With a W.

And now you get bragging rights. Now you get to go in front of ESPN. You get to go in your soapbox and, you know, this is why I take my glasses off and this is why I take my hat off. Now you got to take your hat off, your sunglasses off, with your tail between your leg and go right back up to Fort Collins because you caught that L. Shador Sanders, I don't know if you saw this, Ocho, but I tweeted.

I said, you know what? He has a single-digit number like Elway. Let's see if he can put a drive together. Make a reference to the drive that elway had in 86 in cleveland he goes 98 yards down the field right they go into overtime kick the game winning field goal shador sanders goes 98 yards get the touchdown but he has to go for two get the two and coach prime did something i don't think i've ever seen a college coach do going into overtime win the toss right take the ball because i want to know what i need do i need a field goal to win

do i need a touchdown when i get the touchdown do i go for two right he says you know what i got a hot quarterback and should do what i trust you know know, on money, they got in God I trust. Coach Prime says with the football game and should do what I trust. He put the ball in his hands and said, I want to put pressure on them. It ain't no pressure on us because I got the best player on both teams. And I

want him with the ball in his hands. Listen, when Prime made that decision to take the ball first, that is the ultimate trust in his son. The ultimate trust in his son. The ultimate trust in his offense. The ultimate trust in everything that he talks about and believing in everything that they have in that locker room. The fact that he did that, which is almost frowned upon as a coach. Yes.

You don't want the ball first. Because you're letting them know what they need to do. Bingo. And plus, you give them an opportunity because I also tweeted, I believe they go for two and try to win it here. Because now you got them on their heels. You just scored a touchdown, and he didn't do that. So now he left the door open for them to come back and to play on.

But I'm not so sure in that situation. I really don't have anything to lose. Right. Because I was anything to lose right because i was expected to lose anyway anyway i think i think i'm going for two ocho i don't know how you feel about it but i think i'm gonna go for two in that situation yeah most definitely most definitely i'm trying to get up out of there get in my get him up out of there i don't want no more pressure i don't want no more pressure on my back and i'm trying to get up out of there with that w at all costs going to kitchen sink Adam

man I'm looking at your door and he had a slow start uh but he ended the game 38 of 47 348 yards four touchdowns he did have that pick that carry him off of his receiver uh off the receiver's hand the question was Ocho is that you heard and I heard all last year. Yeah, he's putting up those numbers, but look at the level of competition he's putting those numbers up against. And so now, what's your argument? There is none. There is none. And I will always, I will constantly say this.

This is a testament to players that feel that they have to be at big power five schools in order to get noticed. If you can play the game, it doesn't matter where you go. They will find you. Yeah. You could listen.

You could be a, if you was a nun and you was playing with the sisters of the North at a Catholic church in the North pole. Yes. And you good. They will find you. They will find you where you go is what you do. Once you get there.

I don't care who you are. You know what? I understand what understand you don't have to go to no school and sit down for three years no you don't have to go sit down and wait till your senior year to play you can go somewhere and if you really like that if you really him let me yeah quick story when i was in you know when i was in high school right right let me tell you something real, real small, real, real, real. Just about being in high school. My head coach. You know, my first name was what I am. You are what I am. No, no, I am. You know, my last name was what?

Him. Yeah. Yeah. It don't matter. They say you didn't start to your senior year. Don't do me like that. That doesn't happen. If it's a lie, they told it in the barbershop. But you know that in the barbershop, I don't know what's true and what's real. Don't do me like that. Listen, you know who was on my high school team? You listen to me?

Samari Roll, Dwayne Starks. That's why I know you wasn't no DB. See, what you keep telling me, you told me I wanted to be a DB, but this is what I know about, but players about athletes rise to the top. I don't care how crowded that DB room was. If you like that, guess what?

I go in there and clear it out. Oh no, Mr. Brown wasn't having that. Mr. Brown wasn't having that. No, your skills.

Wasn't having that. Let's get back. Let's get back. Let's get back on's get back let's get back on top but but i'm looking at but i'm but but that game last night uh-huh the buffaloes had every reason to say you know what man we just don't have it tonight we had some penalties and costly situations uh uh how many times did they allow them to run the drag or what we call a shallow cross ocho ocho over and over and over and it was in man every time i'm like to myself i'm like what we just goes on just pass that off and pass it off what we doing oh who number i can't

remember number 14 name i don't know how many drags he caught and he caught by 16 passes screaming uh he caught he caught uh 16 he had 17 targets 18 targets caught 16 passes but basically all he was catching was shallows yeah the shallows over and over and over and they they didn't want to make the adjustments they didn't want to make the adjustments. They didn't want to make the adjustments, but everything panned out the way it was supposed to. The way it's supposed to. Not the way I thought. Listen, I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not going to sit here and lie.

I love Prime to Death. I love Prime to Death. I thought that game was going to get away from me. Yes, I did too. Honestly, I really thought the game was going to get away from me. I was rooting for him. I thought he had his guys 2- thought he had his guys to him. I thought they were to him.

I thought there was too much. Yeah. Here's the thing. You can take something personal, but not make it personal. Right. And I thought they had started to make it personal. I thought that they had started to get out of who they were in order to get at them. Once he was able to get them in at halftime settle

them down and let them know hey hey calm down calm down at the end of the day it's not whether or not hey only the 24 points it matters to draft kings yeah it doesn't matter to us as long as we win the game i'm good right i believe I believe in all of you guys. And the one thing I love most about Coach Brian is that good or bad, he's always encouraging his players. He's hugging them.

You okay? Maybe Coach, because I remember, and you grew up probably, you're a little younger than I am, Ocho, but I remember when Coach used to grab you by your face mask, pull you, punch you in your face mask pull you punch oh yeah kick in your butt wait maybe coach maybe maybe because coach prime doesn't do that right he's not coach material right because he's so encouraging because he's so loving so he's so complimentary and he treats every one of those kids like they're his actual kids right right i mean coach prime is different coach prime is different it's one that the players can relate

to i think a lot of coaches envy that envy that he doesn't have the the typical style of saying all the right things or going into your home and having to lie to your family and telling you things just to get you to come there and once once you get there they really don't treat you the same once they got you in house yeah yeah yeah all of a sudden right but prime is very authentic he's original right original one of the things that very many coaches at the collegiate level aren't from day one they have to be someone that they're not and i think that that upsets him prime he took the position one of the most powerful positions in collegiate football that not many of us are afforded the opportunity to do to lead men, black men, white men, bringing everybody together and changing the program like this. Right.

A snap of a finger. Right. That's unheard of, man. It is. You got people taking shots at you that have nothing to do with the game of football right and he said my blessing ain't got nothing to do with your blessing at all at all how many how many times have we seen coach prime give interviews with glass with his sunglasses on with his hat on it wasn't like he just started this when he did it this week oh i'm

playing colorado state well let me see if i can get up under their coach's skin by doing an interview like this. He's done this before. So this is not out of character for him. He's been doing it since the 80s, since the 90s. You know, it's just him. It's always been him. But the fact that his makeup and DNA isn't't similar to theirs right okay something ain't right okay we don't like it right they find a reason you know what i'm most excited about why i wanted

them to win obviously i wanted them to win because i i believe in coach prime he's a good friend of mine but i wanted these naysayers and these haters to wait another week before they got something negative to say that That's all. That's really the reason. You know, hey, yeah, I wanted Coach Prime to go 3-0. But I just wanted the haters to have another week. They got to bite their tongue because you know as soon as they lose a game, everybody's going to spill out.

Yeah, they are. They are. And that's a part of life. Everybody waiting on that downfall. Everybody's waiting on that downfall everybody's waiting on that downfall and what it what it makes me what it would make me think about is think about some of the best players ever that have done it your tom brady's your floyd mayweathers your serena williams yes it gets to a point where you're so good at something you're so good at something you do it your way you got people watching and

tuning in just to see you fail that's the thing they're not watching they're not watching they just want to say you know what i was there or i watched when floyd got beat i watched when deon lost his first game or when tom brady did but see they wanted to be in dramatic fashion right they don't just want you to lose they wanted floyd in dramatic fashion. They don't want you to lose. They wanted Floyd to get knocked out. They didn't want to go to a decision. They wanted to get knocked out. They wanted to Serena to lose in straight sets,

six, one and six. Yeah. So that, that's what's most disappointing. And a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah.

There's some for the other side, but it's a lot of people in our community. Yeah. That's rooting against time. And that's what's most disappointing you think so listen i i listen i mean you you would know better than me the landscape for you and your moral compass and your antennas is out there a little bit more than i am but everybody on my end oh we we loving it i'm sure you you probably on the other side of the spectrum i just didn't see none of none of us really not root for.

How could you not root for that? Because. How could you not root for that? Because it's not your success. I want my success. And if I'm not successful, when they say misery loves company, why would I cheer for you when I'm over here sad and I'm disappointed and my life isn't going well

like the reason why your life isn't going well is because coach prime is doing good at boulder that's that's why your life isn't well that's why things are not going well for you and that's what I told that's what I just told you last week that's what I just told you last week when we just talked a few days ago not too long ago If you focus on what's on your plate, if you focus on what you got to eat and you lock in on what you got to eat and what you need to do to prepare your meal and stop worrying about everybody else's recipe, you're going to be all right.

But we always in everybody else's food trying to see what they're eating and you wonder why our shit don't taste right and ain't got no goddamn season or flavor. Man, it ain't even Sunday. It's Sunday, too. Don't make me preach today, now. The Cowboys beat the Jets 30-10.

I try to tell you, but you'll hear it hard. But you're going to learn sooner or later. Turn the ball over four times. Three picks, a fumble. As dominating as the Cowboys have been, and I think the thing is that because they've outscored their opponents 70 to 10, their offensive struggles have gone unnoticed. Right.

They've been in the red zone 10 times. They've scored five touchdowns. They're 21st in red zone touchdown percentage. They've had 10 drives in the red zone. They've only scored touchdowns on five of them. Dak is only responsible for 14 of those 70 points. Two touchdown drives. So I don't think this is a good test or a good testament to who the Jets really are.

This is not a good testament. Not at all because if you're going if you're going to base testing the jets off a plan against the best the best right now statistically d for the team in the nfl that is unfair that is just unjust and i'm not i'm not i'm not basing there i'm not basing off that i'm looking at the body of work that Zach Wilson has drawn from me. Well, you're talking about the past, man. You're talking about the past. So, theoretically, everything resets.

It's a new season. It's a new season. Theoretically, since you say everything is the past, 425 today is the past. But I'm just talking about what I saw today. Now, how many games do you think they'll win with that quarterback playing like he played okay well one of the things that they don't have to do is they don't have to face that goddamn cowboys defense every goddamn week they don't have to face that so i think i think defensively offensively they'll be in better situations you can game plan

a little better because other teams are going to have weaknesses and other things that you can manipulate offensively and help Zach Wilson out. Being able to put other, being able to put players in position. Can you help him not throw the ball to the other team? Well, it's hard to read the defense when number 11 hitting you every time you drop back. Whoa. Whoa.

It's hard to read a defense when Makai Parsons hitting you upside the head every play you drop back hold on i need i need a red flag i want to challenge something because when i told you on monday night about john shallon turning the ball over you say that's a part of the game now all of a sudden defense ain't a part of the game the other team is not to have not allowed to have a good defense if we got a crappy quarterback they need to have a crappy defense to match that crappy quarterback no no What we're not going to do is we're not going to call the quarterback crappy. If you have an engine, right? You listen to me?

If you have an engine, when you put the key in your ignition, right? When you crank the car, in order for that engine to work, don't every part inside that engine have to be working in unison, right? For that engine to go? But you already see that. Well, there we go. So we can't. You know what? The entire jets off. Thank you. I So we can't. You know what? The entire jet's off.

Thank you. I know how we do. You know what? You know what, Ocho? I do see you and I come from basically the same kind of upbringing. We wait till the car put us down side the road before we get rid of it. Now, if the fail to crank, you'd have to have your con boy, your auntie to come pick you up and take you to work you

know that car gonna put you down side the road one day but if you know what you said nah nah I'm good cause I just need a spark plug you know all the battery a voltage regulator I need matter of fact just for just for context purpose for people watching

Honda 2006 all day and when it puts you down side the road you like and you they're like man that look like ocho cinco side man i know that they're ocho hey now everybody about to get that thing and go live it's got you walking side the road because it's gonna put you down so you're gonna wait till zach wilson to put you down. So you're going to wait until Zach Wilson actually puts you down. Side the road. He's not going to put me down. You understand the analogy I just used.

It's a team game. When things go well, most of the time the quarterback gets the credit. When things don't go well offensively as they did the day again again you're going against the best defense in the nfl like it's not fair it's really not fair to judge them off of this game today and then being thrown into the fire and then being thrown into the fire with aaron rogers going down all i ask from you and the people the people the just nation and even you shannon a little patience it's only week two. I ask you, just give me, just give

Zach Wilson another week. Another week. That's all I'm asking. We're not trying to teach kids how to potty over here. We're grown ups. We're grown ups. I know we're grown, but you have to understand the situation at hand.

Understand the situation at hand. Understand the situation at hand. Have some type of sympathy and compassion. How about this here? You've heard people say this a lot. You can never out-exercise a bad diet. No team can overcome bad quarterback play. Not in today's game because they've made it so restrictive. That's why the running back is not as valuable as he once was

because of what they used to say. Bring your run game and your defense and you can go places. Well, now they've devalued. They put so much emphasis on it. Think about it. The defensive receiver, the incidental contact, the holding, the quarterback. You basically only hit the quarterback between his letters, his numbers. That's the only target you got.

You can't hit him in his head. You can't hit him below his waist, and you can't touch anything. You cannot protect. You cannot hide him. There used to be a time you could hide your quarterback. I can hide every other player on the offensive side of football. I can slide the line one way or another.

I can leave a back end to chip his way through. You can stack him up. You put him in motion if they can't get over. I cannot hide that quarterback. You can't hide him. Peekaboo, they see you.

They're going to make him play. Because once upon a time, you could make your quarterback a cheerleader. Now they made him a participant in the game. Oh, yeah. No longer a cheerleader. Right. He's going to have to get exponentially better, Ocho, in order for them to go places. Because Miami, I don't know if you noticed, but Miami looked real good.

But very good but very good very good i think but listen i always i always believe in tour and i think for for a little bit is the same way everyone was doubting tour it's the same way they're doing zach it's the same way almost i mean it's a little bit different because the supporting cast in miami is a little bit different than that in new y. Here's the thing. This is what kind of – and we're going to talk about Cincinnati a little bit, but Joe Burrow. I'm always a little leery when guys just have that one year.

But we saw Tua over a span play well. We saw Zach Wilson for one year. And it was like the Jets were sold on him. They had their mind made up. Okay, Joe Burrow's going number one. They identify Zach Wilson without even looking at any of the other quarterbacks. And he had one year. He had one year.

Go look at the year before at BYU. Right. I mean, the talent speaks for itself because when you turn the film on, that's what it's all about. It's about, I mean, obviously, scouts, what they look at, they do their homework, and they see the film. And when you see the film, it jumps out on you based on what he's able to do. No, what jumps out was his ability to throw the football. He threw the ball on one leg, or he was on one knee,

and threw the ball 60 yards. How many times is he going to do that in the NFL? How many times? How many quarterbacks are you up to do that? Not many many but there are other there are other variables to him that makes him a a special a good quarterback it just hasn't panned out there obviously he has multiple multiple angles they can throw the ball from and when he was coming out in the draft i call i said he is patrick mahomes i didn't say he was

patrick mahomes so people don't run with oh chad said he was packed i said patrick mahomes you know the ability to throw the ball throw a sidearm throw it over the top he can throw it with his left he can do all that you know all that pretty stuff too he just hasn't been able to do it i think right now one of the problems playing in that goddamn new york media can really hurt your confidence having games like having games like today where you're throwing when you turn the ball over and one of the picks is a goddamn running back fault, but I'm not going to get into that because I don't have a presentation to show to people that it ain't always Zach Wilson that's messing these,

you know, having these mistakes. But who do they blame it on? I mean, you know what, Ocho? If I was in the courtroom, I would really like you to be my defense attorney because you're trying to put up a formidable case. No, I'm not trying to put up a case. I got your video. I got your video going

in the store and coming out with the TV. That's you, Ocho. So I got all this film on Zach Wilson stinking up the joint. I got it on tape. Ocho, when you got into the league, what did they tell you? The eye and the sky don't lie.

It doesn't know how much money you make. It doesn't know how fast you are. It doesn't know if you're black. It doesn't know if you're white. It doesn't know anything. All it does is record what it captures, whatever it is. Now, what has that tape captured? You're right.

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in the NFL right now at all. That's just unfair, especially coming off what just happened last week. What do you think about the Cowboys? Because I think the Cowboys offense is going unnoticed because the defense has been so outstanding. It's playing so well. You know what? The tides are going to turn now. the defense has been so outstanding. It's playing so well. You know what? The tides are going to turn now.

Tides are going to turn. When you first start off, I still remember this day. Defenses, all they got to do is read and react and just go. They fly into the ball, just read and react. Offenses take a little time to gel. The chemistry to build up. I say by the time the Cowboys get to about week three or four and they're turning on all cylinders,

then you'll see a different ball game. The good thing about it is if the defense can continue to play well, if the defense can continue to play well and that offense starts to catch up and the identity is showing on both sides, man, shit. But also,

we're going to get four game tapes on that defense and we're gonna see what they like to consistently run to formations and what they like to do in certain areas of the field so we're gonna get some more info we're gonna get some more intel on things that they're doing right now they're relentless at getting at the quarterback yeah because what they've done is that they're tackling the running back on the way to the quarterback. Dan Quinn said to hell with the running back. Go to Michael.

Or Diggy Zua. Go get D-Law. Go get the quarterback. Yeah. Yeah. Damn the running back. We'll let Wolf Hunter. We'll let those other guys worry about the running back.

Attack the quarterback. Yeah. They're doing a hell of a job. What, they they've got like 12 13 sacks in two games already digs they digs them locking up everything yeah because they know the ball gotta come out quick i mean all you gotta do it all you all you gotta do is sit there you ain't got to move read three step for for what? I ain't budging. Throw it. Let me get that. Let me get that. You got to double move Diggs because Diggs biting everything. He looking to get cheap pieces.

You ain't even got no time to do no double move. But you can't double move. Ain't no time. You got no time. You got no time. So the Jets, Aaron Rodgers had surgery shortly after. Dr. Neil Eletrosh of the Curling Joe Clinic out here. I know Dr. Eletrosh.

I'm not surprised that he did the surgery. He's a world-renowned, top athletes around the world come, get their knee done, repaired by him, get their Achilles. He did what they call a speed bridge, and Rodgers is hoping to be able to return during the playoffs. So basically, in four months. Now, I don't like that, especially with the advancement of medicine

and the technology that they have. These surgeons are great. Medicine and technology is great. But T.O., we pushing the upper threshold of what medicine. I need to put on a name tag because you just called me T.O. Did I?

I mean, Ocho, my bad. Man, you got me up here sweating. Four months, four months four months four months old joe is yeah that that that's that's un that's unheard of for something that takes what six six to eight to recover six to eight that's a six to nine month injury easy easy because i think you i think you non-weight bearing for at least the first six to eight weeks no that's half the time right there right right i listen i i'm i'm not a i'm not a doctor i'm not a doctor i don't really know i mean where'd you stay at so pretend to be one right now pretend to be one well if you're gonna

have a surgery and i'm not sure what a bridge is but technology actually is at a point in 2023 where it is at advance, where him actually coming for the playoffs logically can happen. It can, it can happen. It can happen, but I just, that's scary. It's scary.

It's scary. There are two things you don't play with. There are two things in life you don't play with. And when it comes to playing sports that scare me even though i admit thank god i've never had those injuries your achilles you don't want to play with that groin you don't want to play with yeah yeah you don't want to play with anything soft tissue because any sudden movement is going to irritate it you don't know what's going to happen. It's an internal brace

and a speed bridge. Basically, it helps. It says the speed bridge protect and repair and opens up the possibility of an earlier return. That's what I'm reading here in my notes. Four months though, Ocho. Ocho, four months?

Think about it now october november december january january that's four months that's four months i don't know maybe maybe it's something else going on we don't know about maybe it's something maybe maybe it's something else you swapping out swapping out something and placing something else in there man i don't know well i i don't know if they can do that with the Achilles. Now, I have heard of them using cadavers for ACLs. Now, you remember AP came back up. I think he tore his ACL in December.

And he came back and finished about eight yards, nine yards short of breaking ED's record, rushing yards in the season. He won the mvp rushed for 2097 yards on a very bad team that was i've never seen anything like it and ever that was that was like december january that's so january february march april may june july august september that's nine months you're talking about half the time more serious injury injury yeah that that that that's that's scary that's scary to me and and he's late 30s ap ap probably was in his late 20s

yeah that happened so you i mean you know you're at 10 years does does this age really play a factor injuries in the healing process, though? Do you really believe in that? Yes, yes, yes. It's a proven fact. The older you are, the longer it takes you to heal. The older you are, the longer it takes you to heal. Yes.

I ain't never really believed in that. I'm just saying, just honestly, just honestly, I've never really believed in that. Everybody's body's different. Everybody's body's different. They have, everybody's body reacts different to different things i think people hear faster than others regardless of yes it's just it's your dna it's your makeup it's just the way we are i'm not saying i'm not saying yes some older people what i'm saying but as we age right you know it takes longer to heal you right you. You remember when you first came into the league, you could play a game.

If somebody say, hey, Ocho, we need you to play a Thursday night game, you're like, man, I'm ready. By year five, you're like, nah, man, I think I'm going to go and push that thing to Sunday. And then by the time you got to year eight or nine, you're like, yeah, a Monday night game would be even better. That body, the even better that that body the recoverability that the body had when we were younger that thing don't don't don't don't

function like it once did to you you you call me t again but it's no i did not listen you just said t you know what you hey listen i know you ain't trying to say we look alike cause I'm I'm handsome I look good T.O. T.O. T.O. so you trying to say T.O. not handsome

T.O. face of the challenge now I'm gonna let you have that one man you know what it was T.O.

I love you baby you know what it is you know what it is O'Shea that man been trending that man been trending on my

social media on my time. Yeah, man. Listen. Listen. Listen. You talk to him. I need you. I talk to him.

I talk to him. I was going to reach out to him tomorrow. I talked to him in length yesterday. I talked to him in length yesterday. I said, T, T told me the issues that they had. I'm not going to share him here because that's not the place to share him. I also talked with Stephen A. Smith. I talk with Stephen A. Smith and I say, Steve, man, listen here, man.

I love y'all. I love both of y'all. Man, both of y'all are inspirational and very motivating to me in different ways. In different ways. I look up to y'all in different ways. You're right. From afar. I don't need to tell you that all the time.

Just know I admire the shit y'all got going on and what y'all have done. T, been watching T all my life. Stephen A, I've been watching you even when I was playing and actually couldn't wait to hear you at times, you know? This ain't what y'all need to be doing. Not, not, not, not. This ain't what y'all need to be doing. Not us.

Not us. Not us. Not giving them something to talk about. Oh, here go these again. Look at the... That's why we can't have nice things because y'all gonna tear it up between...

I'm not even trying to say it, but I'm trying to find a way to facilitate a little, bro. Call each other. We could call each other, man. Listen, tell me what your problem is and talk about it i'm a firm believer we can disagree you got your opinion i got mine you see something one way i see something another way but for me if i got something to say i'm gonna call him you and i gonna discuss it right and it's not gonna be for

the world to hear right right right right so that's that's that that's just look people people attack me all the time because a lot of time a lot of times here this is what i found out ocho yes sir a lot of times if you can do something something that they can do, but they can't do what you do. You see, I sit up here, and I was the first athlete. Skip Bayless and Fox gave me an opportunity as an athlete to sit across from a journalist and talk about not only the sport that I played, but basketball, baseball, social issues, golf, hockey, whatever the case may be. I was the first athlete to do that full time. Now, there are others that have come since me.

But now a lot of times people look at me because I didn't come from a journalistic background. I'm sitting across from a journalist and doing what he does. He could never live in my arena. And that breeds envy. That breeds jealousy. That bleeds a situation where I've got to try to, well, I know

just as much as you. Why you, especially if it's like me and you. Why would I feel the need to say, i'm gonna tell y'all what what ocho really like behind the scenes i got this tea on ocho and i can't wait to spill it what even if i knew it right i wouldn't tell it right and i ain't really got no tea because i live my life publicly but listen they need they they need They're both individuals that took different paths

You know, Stephen A might not have played He might not have played Maybe he had a dream of playing But he wasn't able to So he went a different route Right T did play You feel me?

But both of them climbed that mountain With obstacles in the way Yes They both made it to the top And the pinnacle of their childhood dreams, whatever it may be. There is no reason there's no reason why they are at that top to be going back and forth

with each other when they're the only ones that can hit themselves screaming. Because that's where everybody else trying to get to. We all trying to get where y'all at. One climb one side of the mountain, the other climb the other side of the mountain, but they're both at the peak screaming at each other

you both, think about it, you both great in your chosen profession exactly I love I've known Stephen A I've known T.O. I've always been a T.O. supporter and I thought he got some bad rap bad press at times

I think some of the things that he did bring upon himself. I've known Stephen A for the better part of a decade, have gotten to know him a little better over the last year. And so I have nothing but love and respect for both guys. But I agree with you. This is something that I believe that we can handle behind closed doors. Yeah. I don't know what the issues are I don't really

care to know but I think both of knowing Stephen A the way I know him he's done with it yeah well knowing T as much as I know T he's done with it he's done with it

I'm glad I had to pause for a minute and think about it a little bit because i i love him that's my brother i'm talking about my i'm i love him like ain't nothing ain't none of that but but i i think i i talked to him you know and um i think things are gonna be okay i i want them two gentlemen man to sit down and and hash out their differences and and just just let bygones be bygones and just keep doing what they do in their respective worlds. Yeah, I'm all for that, bro, because like I said, I ain't out here trying to bash. I'm not going to bash.

Look, when I'm on television and I talk about somebody, I'm just talking about someone from our community that plays a professional sport. I'm talking about you in that arena. I'm not talking about you personally. I'm not talking about your family. Now, if you get yourself in trouble, you get a DUI, you do something crazy,

I've got to address that. But normally when I speak, I'm speaking about your performance or lack of. And a lot I speak, I'm speaking about your performance or lack of. And when a lot of times the new telling the truth is labeled hate and jealousy. I'm just telling you you didn't play well.

Right. And that's something that I'm going to need you and I'm glad I'm so glad you said that. Now that I'm in that space, there's one of the few things that I have a hard time doing. If you follow me throughout the years, if you follow me on Twitter for people that are watching, I have a hard time critiquing people. I have a hard time being critical of people because there is no harsher critic to these athletes that are playing in those arenas today than themselves.

than themselves and it to me i feel it does it doesn't do them justice or me justice to sit on any platform and say well so and so didn't do this based on whatever regard or standard i i i hold them to if that makes sense i have to get a little bit more savvy with it the way you are or the way stephen a does to where i can be critical of an athlete's performance without him being upset or be considered hating for that matter. Well, he's going to be upset, first of all, Ocho. Let me tell you what Coach Prime and he and I used to talk all the time. He said the reason why they get upset with you is that the argument that they used to use is that you didn't play the game. And if you did play the game, you weren't very good.

Okay, I'm a three-time Super Bowl champ. Right, right, right. A four-time first-team All-Pro. And I got something. I was number 267. I'm in a room with less than 400 busts. So now what's your argument? You can't say I didn't play because I played 14 years.

You can't say I didn't win anything because I won three chips. You can't say I wasn't that good because I got a gold jacket. So it cuts a little deeper when I say it. But just take it and say, you know what? Instead of saying that man is hating, that man got an eye. Because I heard he was a student of the game. And I know where he came from and how hard he worked to get to where he got. So instead of taking it as a, I'm going to take it as constructive criticism.

This man is trying to give me something that's going to help me, not hurt me. And so if they were to take, if they were to look at that, because you have to understand, they put you up there because you played the game at a high level and you see the game through a lens that the person at home is watching can never see through. So you can offer an insight. That's what you're giving. If somebody, like I'm telling you the coverage that the defense is in and where the ball should have gone or what the route the receiver should have run,

you can't get mad at me because I'm telling you. But they take it like, man, you try. And they always hear the thing, man, you know, you bringing a black man down, bro. I'm not, bro. I ain't trying to bring no black man down. All I'm saying is I'm critiquing your game. Right.

And in that game, I'm not trying to take away anything that you've done in the, in the past. So whatever you've done, the all pros, the pro bowl, the deeply DPO wise, the MVPs, that's yours. But today, Sunday, Monday or Thursday, you didn't play well. That's all I'm saying. OK, I got you.

I got that. That's something I have to learn to navigate and get a little bit more comfortable with. Get a little bit more comfortable with doing it in the right way, because. I just you ever have players come up to you yes yeah but you know what i look the best the thing that they come a lot of them like they like they're gonna beat you they're gonna beat you up no okay that ain't gonna happen we're gonna have a we're gonna have a healthy discussion but that ain't going that ain't going down that ain't gonna happen like that but you know what

they tell me on shows real talk they say man you hard but you fair and at the end of the day that's all I can do as you get further and further away from the game you'll have less and less

guys that you played with and played against it gets easier but i'd never had i'd never had a problem telling the truth because i would tell the truth when i played bad or i would call up my own teammates when they didn't play good so for me just tell the truth i'm never gonna ask a man more than i'm willing to give so just take it like man man shannon sharp man i mean look at what that man accomplished he must know something right right you can't accidentally you can't accidentally you just don't accidentally stumble up in the hall of fame you don't fall your way into three superbowl ocho you right you right well shoot let me see i ain't got no i made my own jacket so i'm like

kind of qualified i inducted myself but you are qualified because you played the game at a high level you were a student of the game i was good too huh yeah yeah yeah and because you offered opinion right right this is you know what this is what i saw it just unto me a territory for me it's unto me i'm just me it's unfamiliar i'm just gonna be honest and you you've you you might not have followed me closely throughout my career but people that do it's one thing i always do i'm gonna lift up and pump up any and everybody if there's something negative going around an individual who'll be the first one on twitter to find the littlest positive the littlest so just having to critique and analyze anybody in a negative i

know what it's like to have a bad game i know what it's like to drop a ball a ball that matters i know what it's like yeah i've been there in my mind in my mind i'm thinking like who in the fuck i think i am to be not be playing and be criticized and do that i plan that are going through the same thing i went through when I was playing. It's hard. It's part of the game, but it's just hard. But because you offer a critique of someone, that doesn't mean you're criticizing him. You're criticizing his performance or the play in that particular game. They can't separate the two.

That's a big problem. That's not a you problem. So let me ask you a question. Who cutting the checks? Draft Kings or they? What you mean? For me? Yeah.

Or you mean in general? No, right now. Okay, well, it's two separate checks being cut. Draft Kings and then, you know, my old lady cut the check. I'm going to stay at home, Dad. I got a little allowance. What? Yeah, that's another story.

When we finish football, we'll get on that. I want to talk to you real quick. They'll revisit something back from January, but go ahead. Okay. Yeah, so that's the thing. And I think once guys understand that, because I'm not going to take a personal shot at you. I'm just going to say, you know, this is what transpired, blah.

You shouldn't have let this happen. Okay, you know, zero coverage. Why would you let the guy inside of your DB? Okay, you know, you see the blitz coming. Okay, why would you let the guy beat you inside? Okay, you got to step with you. You got to be strong with your inside foot because you see the guy is going to come inside. Right, right, right.

The guy, if you see, if I see the safety down, if I see the safety down, where do you think the guy in front of me is going? He's going to cross my face because he has to because the safety is down. Down, yeah. And if you study take, they're going to tell you what they're going to do. Now, you know what, Ocho? They get to practice too. Now, they're going to give you a look or two that you haven't studied.

Seen, yep. But more times than not, they're going to be true to who they are. Down in distance, area of the field. Yeah. Not much changes to a game plan. A wrinkle here, a wrinkle there. It'd be the same plays you watched on film, just different formation and different salad dressing, as I called it.

But what you going to do? You going to react. Improvisation. The really great players have great improvisational skills. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Why did you do that?

I said, because let me tell you what happened. I said, see, when y'all drew them X's and O's on the boards, they didn't move. I knew come game time he was going to move. Right, right, right. That's why I did what I did. Right, right. You're right. Oh, uh-oh.

I can't. We got to talk about this. Yo, Bengals. Yo, Bengals. Yo, Bengals. Who they? When they? Going to get a win. When they?

Joe Burrow. Hey, Joe Burrow not looking good, Ocho. He not looking good. Listen, we started 0-2 last year. He wasn't looking good then either. We started 0-2 last year. We wasn't looking good either. The cream always rise to the crop

have you ever made Pillsbury croissants in the oven have you ever made them no you know how they start out they start out flat they start out flat and over time when you put the oven on 350 they start to plump up all I know is croissants

don't start as a pancakes mix so all I know is that when your guy came into the season with a calf injury and he said after the day he aggravated that injury. Now let me tell you something how my thought process was and when I went. Normally when you limp into the season, you limp out of the season.

Isn't that true Ocho? Normally when you come into the season with an injury, how do you get healthy? How do you get healthy when you got to go out there and practice and you got to play every Sunday?, how do you get healthy? How do you get healthy when you got to go out there and practice and you got to play every Sunday? So how do you get healthy? Because when you have surgery, when you're a normal person, what you do, Ocho, you have an injury, they give you, they say rest.

Rest, rest, eyes, compression, elevate. Now, how do you do that in the NFL? Listen, this is the NFL, right? Yeah, not for long if you don't get it right not for long if you don't get it right but you know even though it's week two it's about 80 of players got down healthy every everybody ain't fresh yeah that's a part of the game everybody ain't fresh people got hurt in the preseason people get hurt in practice nobody nobody is a hundred percent and it's only week two that's a part of the game it's gonna always be like that and it's only week two. That's a part of the game.

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All I know is he's 1-7 in his first two games in his career. He's 1-7. We scored three points last week. We scored 24 points today. You see which direction we're going? Are with me are you are you with me we didn't win the game but let me ask you a question let me ask you a question let me ask you a question does does this offense how does it look to you how does he look how does jamar chase look do you see the frustration building on jamar chase okay yeah it's it's only week two it's only week two we we are going to be fine we are going to be fine listen

i remember i remember uh being frustrated too in week two when things weren't going well but carson and i i wasn't getting that ball like i felt i should be getting it well y'all listen and then wait wait a minute we got about week three. We got about week three. I probably had, after two games, I probably had about 45 yards. I'm mad. I'm upset. I'm side-eyeing Carson on the sideline. Yeah. You know?

But I ain't saying nothing. You know? I'm not saying nothing. Okay. Well, we get to week three, and I go for 180. We get to week four, I go for 260. What? You had a 260 in there?

What? Well, you ain't never seen me play. You better Google me. Oh, man. Yeah. And then it all just started to fall. It all just started. Listen, God got favor on them Bengals.

We going to be all right. Jamar Chase is going to have a hell of a season regardless of what's going on right now. It's never how you start. And I know, Jamar, I know you're going to see this. It's never how you start. It's how you finish. And I guarantee you this. You will still finish top five in targets and receiving yards when it's all said and done this season.

Guarantee you. when it's all said and done this season. Guarantee you. And they still got the Dolphins, the Chiefs, Packers and the Bills. When? When? When?

What was working against you for the division, you're 0-2 in your division. Huh? You're 0-2 in your division. Let me talk to you real quick. Stay with me, right? It's Sunday, huh? Yeah. You know huh? Yeah.

You know Mary? Yeah. You know what Mary had? What's that? A lamb? Yeah. She had a little lamb. You know what that lamb was? You know what they do to little lambs?

What? Lamb chops. Lollipops. I like mine a little on the rare side. I don't know how you like yours. Listen, on a serious note, we're going to get it together. For some reason, all jokes aside, on a serious note, for some reason, the Bengals, we always have a slow start.

We always have a slow start. It's happened now three years in a row with us having a slow start, and these same questions always happen to the media. Oh, what's wrong with the Bengals? Oh, what's wrong with Joe Burrow? Man, we going to be all right. We going to be all right. What y'all going to do with that O-line?

The O-line has been the same problem when we went to the Super Bowl. The O-line was the same problem when we went to the AFC Championship. And we keep hearing about the O-line. We are going to be okay. We're going to be all right. Ocho, you can't keep taking those licks. You see what that... You see Andrew Luck? They forced Andrew

Luck to retire at 30. Nah. What you're not finna do is say our offensive line is bad as that offensive line that Andrew Luck had. Don't do that. Don't do me like that. Don't do that don't do that the devil the devil is alive because burrow was so historically great in that playoff run that man got sacked 19 times in four games that's unheard of in a playoff run yeah he got sacked nine times and still won a game. You're right. That's unheard of.

You know what it is heard of? That is a testament to how great Joe Burrow is. Yes. Yes, how great he is. Yes. But you can't consistently overcome poor offensive line play. You are right. Listen, the adjustments will be made.

Those adjustments will be made in-house. I don't know what the answer is. I think he has an opportunity to be his accuracy his ability to throw the football with higgins and chase yeah he has a boy they have they got a decent running game with mixing great running game go ahead i say good yeah Ugh. Ugh. So you've lost no confidence in you. You good. Oh, no. No. See, sometimes in relationships, right? Sometimes in relationships. Uh-oh. Here we go. Ups and downs. Ups and downs. Just like right now.

How many ups and how many downs? Well, shoot, it's only been two downs. It's only been two downs. It's only been two downs. It's been two downs. Y'all had two arguments and it looked like you ready to jump ship. You ready to jump ship after two arguments. Did she talk about my mama? Because I got to go. She talked about my mama.

Granted, I got to go. Nah, nah. She didn't talk to me. I'll work it out. I'll work it out. You can work it out. You can work it okay well i'll work it out i'll work it out you can work it out you can work it out you can work it out the broncos they had an 18 point lead they were 21 to 3 and we heard this talk about this new culture you got a coach that's making probably somewhere between 18 and 20 million dollars you got a quarterback making north of $45 million.

What's going on, Ocho? Who put up the points today? The Broncos had a 21-3 lead. Russ started out doing great. No, no, no. They played the Commanders. The Commanders, yeah. My bad.

They played the Commanders, got out to a 21-3 lead. 21-3 lead. And, you know, a couple of turnovers. You know, the quickest way to get yourself out of a game and get the other team back in is to turn the ball over. Give him the ball. Yeah, man. Every time.

What's going on with Russ? What's going on with Russ? I like Russ. Is football still number one to him because what would it be he promotes nothing else outside of just football he promotes nothing else he lives eats you know what football always had he's a quarterback he had no choice but what what happened have you seen i've never seen a guy without an injury look like he's looked the last year and a half the last part the last part of when he was in seattle last year okay we're gonna

okay we can blame that on nathaniel hackett said okay maybe nathaniel hackett was over his head maybe he didn't deserve to be a head coach right but you got to look at russ the last the last half to be a head coach. But you got to look at Russ the last half of when he was in Seattle and look at Denver last year. Now, something ain't right. Ocho.

We got to... Nah, ain't nothing wrong with him. Ain't nothing wrong with him. I think what we have to do is we have expectations for players. We have expectations for players and partnerships. You make $45 million, yes! When certain partnerships come together, oh, we got Sean Payton.

We got Russell Wilson. Sean Payton comes in with the iron fist. That's the way he's going to rule. So we expect with Sean Payton coming in with the iron fist telling Russell Wilson, well, this is how things are going to go. This is the things are going to be, and we're going to get you back to this way and playing football the way i want you to play football as a quarterback of my team it just it hasn't panned out in the way it should but is it the time to hit the panic button in week two no no i don't know yet i think the thing that made Russ sensational, his legs, his legs,

the defense, and his legs. He can still run? Ain't that not okay? Man, I saw them joke. Look, I saw a play today. Russ would have been out of bounds, grabbed him a cup of water on the sideline, drank it, and got back in the game. They ran him down, and time ran out the clock. They had to kill the clock.

He's not the same. And I think he's a phenomenal man. I think he's a phenomenal husband. And I'm just basing that on what I see. I don't know what goes on in that man's household behind closed door. It could all be a lie. I don't

believe it is. But I'm not judging him on that. I'm judging household behind closed door it could all be a lie i don't believe it is no i think that's but but i'm not judging him on that i'm judging him i believe blue and orange all that other stuff he can have 33 kids i don't care right i need you to play quarterback quarterback for my bronco at a high level level and right now it's not getting done now you've lost your first think about it ocho you've lost your first two games at home you got to go on the road on the road yeah yeah well listen if there's one person who's gonna make it happen you get you're paying one person 40 40 what how much russell making 40 what 40 45. What are they paying the coach that they just brought in?

Probably somewhere, probably 18, 20. That magic is going to happen. That magic is going to happen. It's going to happen. It had no choice to. It had no choice but to turn around just based on the work that they put in to this point. I hope it does.

Man, I'm tired of jumping on everybody else's bandwagon because my team not good and everybody else's team in the playoffs and mine not. Listen, life, football, ups and downs, peaks and valleys. We just had an anniversary, our 25th anniversary of our second Super Bowl that unfortunately I wasn't able to attend. That's what Broncos fans are used to. They're used to attend. That's what Broncos fans are used to. They're used to winning. We ain't been to the playoffs since Hamill was a hatchet.

Wait, y'all just won a Super Bowl not long ago now. Come on now. You know how long ago? That wasn't even that long ago now. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't be selfish now. This is what we're used to.

This is what we're used to, Ocho. You see this? If you not... I'm just saying I ain't never had one of them. That's pretty, though. Well, I helped get three of these. That's what we're used to, Ocho. You see what I'm saying?

That's what we're used to in Denver. I want a few of them on Madden, though. I know. I'm just being honest. I wanted to bring one of them Madden, though. I know. Yeah, I'm just being honest. I wanted to bring one of them to Cincinnati, too. I tried. I did everything I could. I mean, that's just what it was.

That's one of you, too. It wasn't about me. Do you know how many teams got one of these? My homeboy got two of these since the Broncos won their last one in 15. The Patriots, Tampa. Yeah. I don't know. What you want, Brady?

You want Brady to come and play for Denver? I'll take him. Hey, I'll take him. I'll take him. I'll take him. Your answer is Russell Wilson will always be Russell Wilson. Give me Thomas, Edward, Patrickrick brady jr your answer is russell wilson trust me what listen okay what's the question sierra's husband yes

is that a question you asking no i'm telling you that's the answer trust me trust me no no i dropped my little ms. Go ahead. Grab it right quick. Well, what's the next topic? Did you see Gardner Johnson? He came to the game with the ski mask on. I mean, he was decked out. He had a nice little outfit. He had a nice little ensemble.

He wasn't bawdy, Ocho. He just did like, yeah, man, I'm just going to wear this. He's like, man, hey, this thing will be like that. This thing will be fire. He told the fans to wear masks too. Yeah. And then when the Seahawks beat them, now they got masks on. Listen, that's the lay of the land. That's the nature of the beast.

That's the nature of the beast. But again, but listen, this is what I like, though. What? This is a different Lions team, man. Yeah, for sure. This is a different Lions team, offensively and defensively. This is a different Lions team. And I have every year, every year, the same,

it's always the same teams in contention. And every year there's always one team that comes out the blue and has a phenomenal season and surprises everybody and makes a playoff run. And guess who? And guess who? That's going to be this year. You like the Lions. I like the Lions. I like the Lions. I don't know what the hell Dan Campbell feeding the boys over there. He got to believe he believe in just like prime. He got to believe. But not only are they believing is showing up on the field to play. When you turn on the film, when you watch the games, they're competing.

They compete with teams normally that they couldn't compete with. And, of course, people would be like, well, so-and-so didn't play. That's a part of the game. Injuries is a part of the game. Sometimes you're going to play somebody and they won't have a certain player playing. You still got to go out there, next man up, next man up. I'm telling you the Lions got something special brewing over there and i don't know what it is but i like cj gardner man he leading that defense man with a certain

type of attitude he walk a certain way he talk a certain way they gonna be all right were you petty i mean did you ever do did you i mean i mean you're in the same division as ray ray had the the coldest intro in the history of the NFL. Did you ever think about when you scored a touchdown on the Ravens doing his dance? No, no, no. Because they made fun of me. I think they made fun of me, and they would steal some of the stuff I did. But I never mocked any of them.

You know what's funny? As entertaining and fun as I was, i was very respectful to my opponents right very respectful even though i thought you thought sending them pep to bismarck yeah but see the stuff i did wasn't malicious it was more of an intent to it's time to compete because here i come but i'm gonna do it in a fun way but here's the thing intent only matters to you right because the difference between manslaughter and murder is intent. One is malice, one is accidental. The victim is

still dead. So whether you intended to be a thought jovial, he's still just as offended. Right. Well, that ain't got nothing to do with it. It ain't got nothing to do with me because when it was time to line up, you already knew it was coming. You was going to get that work. You was going to get that work. And there's got nothing to do with you, though. You ain't had nothing to do with me because when it was time to line up, you already knew it was coming.

You was going to get that work. You was going to get that work. And listen, you know it's a reason games are played on Sunday, huh? Yes. Yeah, so I could bless you. You'll bless me? Oh, listen. You know what I want to know?

I want to know. Can you tell the people at home what you was thinking when you tried to crack back on Ray? Oh, I. You tried to sneak it hey i tried to sneak it but this is the funny part about it a lot of people don't if you if you look at the film right and this is what people fail to realize you know let me talk let me listen to me now you know i i lie for you before i lie to you baby you know that well sometimes you just lie but go ahead if you if you look at the film right if you look at the film and replay it again, as I'm going, you'll notice my shoestring on my left shoe is untied. So when I'm getting ready to go into Ray, you understand physics, common sense, physics.

You learn this when you're in elementary. Low man wins. It's about having leverage. Right. man wins it's about having leverage right i ain't had a leverage because my trajectory was thrown off because as i was finna hit ray boom i stepped on my shoestring and it caused me to to raise up a little bit and so when i raised up and ray went through me i had no leverage to go through him that's why i fell back that's that's all that's all like the physics that's all when you step on your shoestring you fall down so i ain't never seen never seen nobody step on their shoestring and it raise up.

No, no, listen. I'm going forward. Right. You know, you got to go through him. Yeah. So I stepped on my shoestring on contact. So it was easy for me to go up that way. That's what I'm trying to say.

I'm trying to think 250 coming this way, 185 going that way. It ain't about that. It's about this right here. It's about this right here. that way. It ain't about that. It's about this right here. It's about this right here. A lot of people ain't got this. Oh, you can't see my heart? You see my heart? It's about that.

That in there. Listen, I played Ray for a decade straight. A decade straight. And every time I seen him, I tried to knock his head off. Ask me how many times I won. None. None. I didn't care. I didn't care I didn't care

you kept coming back it takes a special type of person every day if I see him right now I'm going to run into him again we ain't got no pads on I'm going to run into him every day but I love Ray, man. You know the funny story a lot of people don't know? A lot of people don't know, man,

Ray and I, it's a funny thing, man. For 10 years straight, before every game, Ray and I read a scripture. Every game, even if I was playing away, I'd never forget at 10 o'clock, we'd always get that Bible healed. He'd get that scripture and we'd read it together before I go out there and play. And the damnedest thing, even the games when we would play, the fact that you would sit there and read a scripture with me and talk to me about the man upstairs and then permit to try to hurt me on that field when that would blow, it's mind-boggling how the switch just goes completely off and it's about football.

Yeah. That's my dude, man. I love him to death, man. Good memories. Good stories. I'm up. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Where we going?

Where we going? I'm not finished because I ain't. We back tomorrow. No, we got to finish. We got to double handle tomorrow. We do? What you want to talk about? What you want to talk about?

We talk about whatever you want to talk about. You want to save it? No, go ahead. I just want, this would be like the extended version for the people at home. Now, we talked about, we all football now. We talk about life. Okay, we talk about life.

I talked about you a long time ago. You said you didn't have no partner. You were single. So, I found somebody for you. That's what I wanted you to know. I found somebody for you. That's what I wanted you to know. I found somebody for you. Man, I look desperate. No, I'm not saying you desperate, but you look a little... You got people out here thinking I'm thirsty.

I ain't say you thirsty, but I'm trying to make sure you quenched. Nah, nah, nah. If you got anything to do with it, I don't want no parts of it. Because I already know you off the bull jive with it, I don't want no parts of it. Because I already know you also bull jive. No, I know. Now, listen. Listen, I want you happy and smiling like me. You see how I'm smiling?

Look at me. I'm happy. No, you think you happy. You think you happy. Listen, God said when a man findeth a wife, he findeth a good thing. You got a girlfriend? When a man findeth a wife, he findeth a good thing. You got a girlfriend? When a man findeth a wife, he's assured headaches. See, that's the problem.

You find the wrong one. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I got you. I got you. No. Let me tell you a tale. I already gave you a number. I already gave you a number.

I already gave you a number. What did I tell you? What did I tell you? What? If you date in private, you can break up in private. But if you date publicly, you have to break up publicly. If you got the hatter. No, no, no.

If you got the hatter, you ain't going to get behind her. No, don't do that. Don't do that. If you got the hatter, don't try to get behind her. Don't do that. I need you to scream., don't try to get behind her. Don't do that. I need you to scream. I need you to love her out loud, brother. I need you to profess your love for her.

See, hold on. This relationship between her and I. Right. Yes. No, between you and her and that man upstairs. Yes. He sees. Even if y'all don't see, sees okay he's omnipotent i want you in a position like i'm in i got i got one problem you know i found a good i found a good one but i'm

having a small issue what's the issue she talked about we get married next year right right that's what you told me stay with me stay with me though. Had the nerve to bring me papers to sign a prenup. Oh yeah. You supposed to. Uh uh. Uh uh. Uh uh. Oh yeah.

You, hey, listen, I'm trying. I see what women, I see that feeling women have because this woman has provided me with the ability to be a stay at home-home dad i ain't got to do nothing but take care of kids yeah i get to play video games all day i ain't got to go to work you know that you know what that feel like you know to have somebody the roles are reversed now yeah so now i see how women be feeling when they be like going crazy over dude when they got wait when dudes got money oh i get oh i get it now you get the chill and you ain't gotta do oh cho i'm i'm a guy and that's what i tell my my friends and even guys that don't have money

yes i say sign a pre they say well shaw why should i sign a prenup i ain't got nothing i say because therefore when you leave you all of your nothing and not half of it. You see, because see, what happens in divorce, they take half the money and all the hoo-ha. That's not a fair trade-off to me, Ocho. See, you hear what you just said? That's why I ain't signing nothing. Because this

lifestyle that she has provided me, you know how women are. Women are fickle. Women are fickle. One day, one day, one day, she gonna love's going to love me. She loves me. What happens when I wake up one day and be like, I don't love you no more. Listen, if I

had to marry my college, if everything had gone according to plan, I married my college sweetheart. Let's just say for the sake of argument, I'm worth nine figures. Did I lose you, Ocho? Yeah. You're back nine.

I was saying that if I'm worth nine figures and she was with me in college and I get to that number, baby, you take half. I appreciate everything. I'm good. But I'm not going to let you come in and

i'm on standing on top of the mountain and you ain't help get me there and you think you're gonna get half oh that's not gonna happen oh that's not gonna happen i like that's not gonna happen i like it i like it whatever whatever we said in the pre-nup that's why we have a contract you know back in the day you know what a contract was? Ocho. It was a meeting of the minds. Right. Okay, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to give you my calf. You give me some of your grain.

Or you give me some of your produce. Okay. But somehow along the way, somebody started backing out. And so now we had to get one of these. We had to get that thing on paper. Right. Because there was no longer a meeting of the minds. So now, I ain't got

no problem. I'm a very generous person. Me too. I'm a very generous person. Me too. My mom, my sister, my kids, I help my kids. I don't do all for them.

I say, y'all at an age i paid for you to go get educated and you can do for yourself but as long as you're doing for yourself if you need that i'm willing i'm here i'm i got you i'm not your first choice i'm your last option because i sent you to school and i gave you great tools to try to figure it out for yourself before you came now i'm not gonna let you go under unless you're doing some bull jive. Now, if you're doing some bull jive, yeah. Young, young. Yeah.

But, nah, nah, I'm good, Ocho. I'm good. I'm good. You know, I got a guy by eye. Old Colby, Snake Eye, I got my eye on something. Nah, nah, nah, nah. We ain't going to do that. We ain't going to do that.

Listen, Snake Eye, you done had your eye on Minnie for many of years. Why? You done had your eye on Minnie for many of years but it hadn't panned out. Listen, I need you next year. I need you to stay with this plus one.

Listen to me now. I ain't going to steal you wrong. When you get married? I'm trying to get out of signing this prenup, man, because if she leave, I need half. I want to sustain the same lifestyle. Man, you got bread.

Don't do that, Ocho. I ain't spending it, though. Who sides you on, man? I'm on this. Look, for me, I don't know. Even, like I said, whatever we agree to, if I say I'm going to give you 15 million at the prenup, take your 15 and go.

Okay. If I say I'm going to give you $5, take your $5 and go. I'm going to be fair. I'm going to be fair because I think your time and having to, because I'm not an easy person. I'll be the first to admit, I'm not an easy person to live with or to be with. See, that's the problem right there. It all starts with you. It all starts with you.

So you talk about what you got your eye on, but we need to work on you. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So get the eye. Let's work on you. I owe you. That's why I got somebody to owe you. Right now, this empire that I got somebody to call you. Right now, right now, this empire

that I'm trying to assemble. Okay. We. What? I'm trying to assemble with you. You no way. I'm trying to assemble the empire. I'm trying to build Legos. Okay. Well, we're going to do

this thing together. That's what I told you from day one when we sat down and had the conversation yes sir we're gonna get it done but i need that you got it i need that plus one though yeah next year next year in the in the bahamas in 24 yeah yeah yeah yeah her name the her name matilda, so she probably going to text you tomorrow. Man, look here, man. Yeah, yeah. Hey, y'all, Ocho playing. He ain't serious. Shit.

I told you now. I lied for you before I lied to you. Don't do me like that. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, sometimes he say he'll lie for me. He wouldn't lie to me, but sometimes he just be lying. He's Chad Ocho Seco Johnson. I'm Unc Shattersharp. Thank you for tuning in to another episode of Nightcap with Unc and Ocho.

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