Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Nick Saban retiring, Pete Carroll's firing, Stephen A. vs Whitlock

Episode Date: January 11, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Nick Saban retiring as the head football coach at the University of Alabama, Pete Carroll getting fired by the Seattle Seahawks, the war of words between Stephen A. Smith and Jason Whitlock, Aaron Rodgers' latest comments on the Pat McAfee show, and much, much more. 00:00 - Introduction04:00 - Nick Saban retires27:00 - Pete Carroll fired38:00 - Mike Vrabel fired as Tennessee Titans head coach01:00:00 - Pressure on Dak Prescott and Dallas Cowboys01:07:00 - Stephen A Smith vs. Jason Whitlock01:25:00 - Aaron Rodgers off Pat McAfee Show01:32:00 - Erik Spolestra gets mega contract from Miami Heat01:45:00 - Much more Nightcap! #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to a very, very special episode of Nightcap. I know you weren't expecting us on a Wednesday, but we had too much going on in the NFL and around college football in order for Ocho and I not to get on tonight. So here we are. Thank you for joining us. I'm your favorite, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite,

number 85. Chad, route runner extraordinaire. Ocho, Bengals ring of famer. Cinco, nobody can dance like this man.

The entertainer of the decade. Johnson, that's right, that's who he is. Chad, Ocho, Cinco,

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at the top of the chat. Shade by LaPortier is back in stock. I want to thank you for helping us get out of stock, but we are back in stock now. Ocho Cinco, we had his cigars pinned at the top. The last two shows, you got him out. We're going to bring that back probably Saturday

or Sunday. We're going to pin his cigars back to make sure you're showing him some love and support like you've done me from the very beginning. Ocho, let's start with the big news, the bombshell that happened today. Alabama's coach, the great Nick Saban, who I believe is the greatest college football coach and college

football champion in history, six national championships, nine SEC championships, and 17 seasons, a 206-29 record. Let me repeat that again, ladies and gentlemen. In 17 seasons, this man lost 29 games. Since Nick Saban arrived at Alabama, their enrollment has increased. It went from 25,000 to 40,000. That's a 60% jump compared to the 10% national average. This is what Coach Prime said.

Wow, college football just lost the goat to retirement. Wow, I knew it would happen one day, but not this soon. This game has changed so much that it chased the goat away. College football, let's hold up our mirrors and say honestly what you see. I like it. What do you like it? I mean, he spoke what you like it i mean he spoke nothing but truth i think he spoke nothing but truth nick saban is probably you know what i'm not even i'm not gonna do that nick saban is the greatest collegiate football coach of all time his record his resume it speaks for itself the players in which he's been able to coach throughout the years. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. Everybody. Not to cut you off, Ocho. 44 first round picks in his tenure,

29 losses. Unbelievable. That's unheard of. I think we would never see anything like this probably ever again, especially with one of the reasons I'm going to bring up in a minute on why I think he probably did retire. I think with the NIL deals, how it's made it very difficult for organizations, not organizations, for schools to compete because now it becomes a money game. It becomes a booster game.

It becomes, I'm going to the highest bidder, you know, and it's become a difficult time, especially for recruiting. And I think Nick Saban really doesn't want anything to do with that. There was at one point, everybody wanted to go to Alabama.

Everybody wanted to go to the best school because they were the school to be at. Now it's a money game and it's a different ball game. I don't think Nick Saban doesn't really want to play. Okay, I'm going to pay you. I'm going to pay you. I'm going to pay you just to get you. pay you. I'm going to pay you. I'm going to pay you just to get you. You want to actually want to come there to play football

based on what Alabama stands on and what they stand for. That's just not the case anymore. It's not, Ocho. It used to be a situation. Let me go. I want to go to the coach that's going to get me best prepared. Now, I'm going to go to the program that's going to give me the most money.

We saw that with Jordan Addison and Pitt. He wins the Bolitnikoff Award for Pitt, gets more money he has off the USC. And I think what we're starting to see, Ocho, is that I got to fall in love with the coach. I'm not getting the targets that I think I should get. I don't have what

I need. Okay, let me get into this portal. Okay, what y'all got? Y'all saw me over here. I had 1,500 yards. I had 1,300'all got y'all saw me over here i had 1500 yards i had 1300 yards i had 1200 yards over here so that's worth what a million two million dollars you heard matt rule be a head coach of uh nebraska say a good a good great starting quarterback in college is going to cost you one to two million dollars Can you imagine? Just think real quick for me. Imagine you back in your day at

Savannah State. Man, we ain't had no more bread like that. Forget it being an HBCU and forget it not having the money. Just think about you being able to get $1.2 million to play back then with your skill set.

Just imagine. And look here, I tell you what, well, my brother would have beat me to the punch, but I'd have had a lot nicer things before I got him. And then I tell you what, we'd have definitely been like the Jeffs, we'd have moved on up a lot sooner. Granny would have retired a lot sooner than what she was able to retire oh absolutely oh joe um i mean but that's that's that's where it is and if you look at it we saw coach k we saw roy williams we've seen some of the other coaches get out of it because that's what it's turned into a lot of these guys jump

into the portal i can offer you this we saw al Alabama says, hey, we need our NIL program. We need to get that up there. We need 10, 15, 20, $30 million in there because we want to go get some of the best players. And that's what teams are doing because at least in college, Ocho, those guys got tape on them already against college guys. We already know what they are in the classroom

as opposed to getting a guy from high school who we think will be good but we don't know what he's going to be like once you get into the college environment and get on campus and things of that nature so yeah it's becoming and i think that had more to do with it right i think i'm gonna need you real quick because you know a little better than me uh i don't know much about nIL and how it works as far as the processing goes. Excuse my lack of knowledge on the way it works, but is the money coming from the boosters that are part of the

schools? Yeah, but it's an image enlightenment. What image? What image did you use? You see somebody on a Gatorade thing? What you see above? That's the hide behind, Ocho. But? What you see, what you see above? Okay. Okay. That's the hide behind Ocho.

But see, you know, as before, you got the little briefcase and ain't nobody know about it. Now you know about it and they say we're using your image and your likeness. Right. Okay.

I see what you're going. I mean, when you think, when you think about an institution like Alabama, I mean, the boosters should be in bulk in plentiful so it really shouldn't be a problem as far as a recruiting excuse me as far as the recruiting process concerned would get with attracting you know suitors i'm not sure why

but it's hard when you start comparing them jokers to that texas oil money that texas that texas a&m right you see that you see they just gave jim Jimbo Fisher 84 million to get up out of town. Get up out of town. I mean, don't go for somebody to give you 84 million not to coach. So now, hold on, that's 84 million for him. What about his staff? You got to pay them.

And you got to bring a staff in. And you got to pay them. So you're looking at 100 million, 150 million, $150 million, maybe even $200 million between the two staffs. And the blink of an eye, they didn't even think about it. Ain't even bad enough. So they got bred.

That's crazy. You got bred. Man, you let Sarkeesian win a championship at Texas. And see what, man, they build a statue for that man. They hungry for one because they hadn't won one since Vince Young. They were close in the college football playoff. I think in 2008, was it 2008, 2009?

2009, when Colton McCoy lost to Alabama, they lost to Alabama. They got close again, but man, they won it so bad and it seems like the further, since it's been so long, what would they do? Like Michigan, you got to go back in there.

They tied in 97. Before that, you got to go back to 48. And as great as Coach Schimbechler was, he never won a national title. Title, yeah. Do you think this hurts the kids? Being able to, I mean, the point of, of i'm thinking the point of going to college yeah obviously this is my stepping stool this is my stepping stone this is the the the the pinnacle the one step before i get to my childhood dream if you get the money too early do you think

that hurts them as far as the hunger and the drive and the want to and putting the necessary work to get to the next level if you're already spoiled getting the cash while you're still in college which you remember i'm a firm believer yes um money doesn't money doesn't change you it makes you more what you already are so if you're driven i mean look at it look at look at how peyton manning grew up his daddy was the second pick in the draft he had it right right you think that changed him it drove him he worked harder he's like with the same weight so all the all money does is exacerbate whatever bad habits you have if you have an eating issue now you're gonna become probably obese right because you have the money if you if you would you know alcoholic now you're gonna become

full-blown because you have money you have resources to do what you couldn't do because when you were limited for me like i said i had a brother my brother was in the league for two years while i was at savannah state right man i wanted to get there and see here's the thing ocho once you there's nothing like like they say drug if i've heard a lot of people that tried heroin for the very first time. They say what they do is called tracing the dragon. We want that how we felt for the very first time. Right, right. When my brother gave me a thousand dollars for, you know, two touchdowns and 100 yards, I wanted that again.

Yeah. And so now I got to go out and try to get to touch that 200 yards and four touchdowns. Right. And so now I'm thinking to myself, I want that for me. I go to his house and he got a three car garage. He got upstairs and he got central heating and cooling. It got indoor plumbing. He got a pool in the backyard. Yeah. Oh, Joe, he got what you say. You say you got indoor plumbing. He got indoor plumbing. Oh, wait, what you said? You said he got indoor plumbing?

Man, he got indoor plumbing? Man, I want that. He got a pool in the backyard. He got a car in every carport. Right. Man, I need that, Ocho. Right, right, right. I appreciate you, bro. Oh, don't thank me.

I'm ungrateful. But I can be grateful and still desire to have more and have it on my own. Sometimes people mistake, say, oh, you ungrateful? No, I'm very grateful. I'm very appreciative. But I need this feeling on my own. Sometimes people mistake, say, oh, you're ungrateful. No, I'm very grateful. I'm very appreciative, but I need this feeling on my own. Yeah. I mean, but see, you're different. You're built different. You cut from a different cloth. A lot of people, a lot of players, when you think about it, when you're at the college level, if you get that kind of money, if you get that kind of money, are you still going to have that same fire up under you?

Are you still going to have that same drive, the one to be the best and reach the next level? If you've already got the cushion that you would get once you made it to the NFL. Listen, I'm all for the players

getting NIL money. Obviously because of there should be no reason why they should be going hungry. There should be no reason why they should not have money to feed should be no reason why they should not have money to feed themselves, to clothe themselves, to be able to have transportation to and from school, just stuff like that. There've been way too many stories where kids

having to be paid under the table for them to not to be able to get what they deserve. And I just feel just slightly, slightly, it might take away from the fire and the drive and what it takes to want to reach the next level because you get such a huge cushion while you're still in college. Yeah, I just think the thing is, Ocho, you are what you are with or without money. Right.

If you got a good heart and you're broke, when you get money, you'll become very magnanimous. You'll become a benefactor. That's, that's what you are. If you are miserly and you don't got money, when you get money,

you're going to be miserly still because that's who you are. At the end of the day, we are what we repeatedly do. So money doesn't change you. It makes you more of what you already are. I've had a good heart. I've been a good person when I didn't have a dad. My thing was, I would go make $30 a week

and I'd give my grandmother $10. It wasn't much, but it was something. It could help with something, Granny. That's how I thought. Now when I got money, I gave more even though she didn't want it or my sister or my brother. That's my responsibility now, my

kids. And so what I do, what do I tell my kid? Look, I ain't got no problem. Show me, show me. Just show me that you desire to have and I'll help you achieve it. Now, this Sharp family, Kiari, Kayla, Kaylee, this Sharp family and me,

I said, we got room for one lazy mofo i'm here i'm here no joe i'm the only lazy mofo here and i ain't lazy so i'm not gonna let you drag your feet on me my girlfriend's like you're not gonna sit around and drag your feet on me right right right you got to do something you got to do something right hey got to do something. Right. Hey, so that's the way I look at it, Ocho. Yeah, it is. But look at all the money these colleges – how much you think these colleges got for the college football playoffs? And guess what the players got? A T-shirt that said college football playoffs 24.

Yeah. Excuse me. Maybe a what? What they getting out like? They ain't got no more – I think – You get gift bags. You get gift bags. You get gift bags

and stuff like that. I tell you what, you want to put some money in my gift bag. Put 10 bags in my gift bag. Yeah. And listen, when I saw the numbers,

when I saw the numbers on what the colleges bring in every year, especially during football season, and none of it went to the players. Listen, I was at the forefront. I was at the forefront

of wanting players to have the nil deals i love it i love the idea of just the con just to me just the con of it and even seeing players that are already in the nfl and get their big deals they would get their big deals and they be content they'd be settled they they're really not the same player no more so i'm just thinking to myself well damn what would happen i think the con con as far as the NIL deal is concerned is players being content. Okay, I got a nice little cushion. I'm going to just tail off a little bit and just do the bare minimum. Instead of still having that same hunger and drive and determination,

the thing about, listen, this ain't enough to get mom out of the situation she's in. This ain't enough to carry me the you know, the rest of my life. I mean, you know what I'm trying to say. Yeah, of course. I think the thing, Ocho, for me, I remember when, like I said, I first got to the NFL, I made $63,000 my first year. I made $73,000 my second year. I went to the Pro Bowl

making $220,000 my third year. I was the first team All-Pro, made $325,25 the next year. First team all pro, led all the tight ends in every statistical category, yards, catches, touchdown. First team all pro,

my brother and I went to the Pro Bowl, made 325. Got a contract. I said, man, I think I was making, I think they made me like the third or the fourth highest. I said, I ain't satisfied.

I said, I want to be the number one. I'm going to be the highest paid tight end. Yeah. That's what, I said, I want to be the number one. I'm going to be the highest paid tight end. Yeah. That's what, I said, I want to be the highest paid tight end. Hey, I ain't worried about what they got. I think Keith Jackson, I mean, there are a couple of guys

that made more money. I said, okay, I'm going to be the highest paid. I'm going to be the highest paid. I said, that's what I got. So now, my thought process, my thought process, Ocho, I'm going to say,

I want the national media in Denver to say, Shannon Sharpe's underpaid. That's what I want them to say. That's how I'm going to go get it. You're going to say, that man, he the fourth highest paid tight end, and he underpaid. Come back to, one time. But they was like, when I redid, I've never, ever got a contract extension.

One time. One time. Going into my, it was 93. But it was like, maybe like a month before the season was over. I just needed some money. But Ocho, like, you be joking, like, child support? Yeah, man. Baby mama, they like, them lawyer fees were going up, and that 325 wasn't going to cut it.

So I went ahead. I was a bad deal. Because I could have just waited. man they like them lawyer fees were going up and that 325 wasn't gonna cut it so i went here i was a bad deal because i should have just i could have just waited out hey y'all should have came to me before the season but they didn't know they thought that was an anomaly they thought that was an outlier that i went to the pro bowl my third year so and now coach reeves is gone we got wade phillips in so they didn't think i was gonna be what i became in 93 but you know hey them child support payments, man, $325,000, you don't get $300,000

and you got three kids, bro. Hey, I say, go and give me that money. So I can get that heat up off me. Yeah, okay. I see what you mean. I got three kids. I got a house. I got to send money for my grandmother, my sister, my mom.

I had to get that. I said, but that's okay. That's a whole nother ball game there too. That's a whole nother story, boy. Yeah, a lot of fellas going through that too. A lot of fellas going through that and I don't mean to change the topic this fast.

Boy, you know how many in today's game right now? Yeah. It hit me. Boy, how did you do this? how were you able to juggle and maneuver in this way because i know you got so and so and you're able to do it i ain't never seen no you hadn't really had no problem like that man what did you do but like i'm trying to boy you need boy you better go make home straight boy yeah you better they will make your life a living hell

why are you trying to play ball go make that shit right. Go make that shit right. Yeah. Hey, let me tell you how I did it. You ain't got to be with them, but you got to make that shit right. Oh, Joe. Let me tell you how your boy did it. They had your boy eating ketchup with a nick needle. What? Yeah, I sacrificed a lot of shit.

I'm eating egg whites. I'm eating tuna out of the can. You serious? You damn right. I got to pay child support. I'm eating tuna out of the can. You serious? Yeah, I'm going to say, you damn right. I got to pay child support. I got three kids. And I got a house that I spent $200,000 more than what my agent told me I should.

Or I could. Right, right, right, right. But that's okay. But that's okay. I got a $600,000 house. I got a bed, one TV, and a couch. That's all I got. You good.

And I know a lot of people want to see me fail. Yeah, he got all them kids. Yeah, he ain't going to make it. I said, I'm going to show you. Yeah. I said, because what you don't understand, my desire to be great is greater than your desire for me not to be. Right. Right.

So that's how I look at it. And it was no thing. I said, I remember when every time I tell my grandma, I said, granny, you know, Hey, your baby messed up again.

She said, Hey, take care of them kids. Yeah. Take care of them kids. Take care of them. That's all she said. Now I knew she was upset because she didn't raise me like that.

Right. That's on me. I eat that. But Hey, I got to get it. Don't you? So you know what? I'm going to deny myself. I'm going to eat egg whites. on me. I eat that. But hey, I got to get it, though, Joe. So you know what? I'm going to deny myself. I'm going to eat egg whites. I'm going to eat oatmeal. Ain't no

nice, ain't no chicken. I didn't even eat chicken. I'm eating tuna out of the can. I'm going to Sam's Club and I'm buying three, four, six packs of tuna. Egg whites. I'm buying egg whites. I'm talking about like 50. 50 and a big old big old

big old uh thing like this here i said but it's okay yeah oatmeal that's what i'm eating no joke so i denied myself i ain't going to no vacation that's probably what got me out of the vacation thing because i saw that i wasn't going and i didn't feel like i was missing something where i felt like if i, this might be someone's advantage of getting ahead of me. So for me, I had to get that thing. All I saw because I know I heard it. My homeboy would call me.

Bucket would call me. I said, homeboy, man. I said, homeboy, I got this. I said, I got this. I said, Mary Porter, she raised me for this moment. I said, do you know where I came from? I said, I'm in the catbird seat. I said, little do they for this moment. Yes, sir. I said, do you know where I came from? I said, I'm in the catbird seat. I said, little do they know I'm in the catbird seat.

Right, right. Because the first 20 years, I said, these next 20 going to be a breeze. Because I wasn't supposed to be in this chair. In the first place. No. Yeah. No. So once I got up on, once I got going, oh, Joe, man, that's what I'm saying. You have to be careful of what you're motivated by because it's addictive. Just like, you know, an addict,

whether it's alcohol, whether it's drugs, whether it's gambling, whether it's women, mine was success. That's what my drug was, success. And the more I got it, the more I craved it, the more I desired, the more I needed it. And I denied some good people in my life, but I'm not here to apologize for that. Because without that, I'm not here and they're not where they are. But Ocho, man, I'm telling you, Ocho, but see, people don't understand. See, people don't understand my mindset. And when you hear me say stuff and they say, Shannon, why are you so like Jameis? I say, you got to understand, Jameis is the backup quarterback. He doesn't have that kind of cachet.

Tom Brady makes that call, but see, Tom Brady would have never done that. Peyton Manning would have never done that. Just think of you openly defy your coach. Just imagine. I say, all you guys that's talking, ESPN or Fox or one of these networks tell you not to go on air and say something that you said in production tell you not to go on air and say something that

you said in production meeting and you go on air and say it anyway what do you think is gonna happen you already know what's gonna happen yeah he did that because oh they don't that's why you gotta let Dennis Allen go because he lost control of the locker room any coach that the players respect they would have never done that to. They've lost respect for him. See, now once I... See, I'll do it. If I don't respect you, Ocho, I'll do anything I want to you.

Right. Yeah, I feel you. What I like most about your story and the people that listen, Chad, make sure you listen to what Unc said, man. He was striving for success. But think about the sacrifice it took. All the stuff in between

that didn't lead up to reaching his end goal he wasn't doing none of that he wasn't doing that and I think that's the difference today in today's world today's society everybody want a quick fix yeah they want to quick they want to they want to find a loophole they want to take the shortcut in thinking the shortcut is gonna lead to success success is a long road yeah it's a long road it take time there's a long road. It takes time. There's a process to it. And in between that process and the steps in which it takes to get

to that point of reaching the pinnacle of success, it takes sacrifice. You got to. Sometimes your homeboys call you. Sometimes your homegirls call you. Man, sometimes you got to say no. Sometimes you got to say no. When they get upset, it makes you friends. No. It makes you friends. Okay, do people realize that it's less crowded on the road to success

than the road to mediocrity? If you think of the bumpiest ride on a plane is what? When you take it off. Once you get up to that, what did Apollo say? He's going to get up

to a comfortable cruising altitude. 32,000 feet. Above all that turbulence. Yeah. And if it's turbulence there, what they do? They go a little higher. Yeah. You see what that?

Yeah. Now, when people, when they want to be average and mediocre, that's crowded. Yeah. So many people just want to be average and mediocre. It's crowded. Go be great. It ain't crowded up there. Yeah.

Because everybody wanted easy, Ocho. Everybody wanted success. Work. Only in the dictionary does success come before work. Yeah, most definitely. And you know what the funny thing? In today's world, what people do is they skip the work part, but they put on the clothes and drive the cars. Right.

Don't fake it till you make it. And look like you already made it. Don't fake it till you make it. Yeah, without putting the work in. No, I'm going to make it. Ain't no faking. No, what you see is what you get. Hey, this is it. Ain't no faking. No, what you see is what you get. Hey, this is it.

Ain't nothing fake on me. Okay, I got some, you know. You know, I got a little fake, but hey, but hey, this here real. Hey, this here, this a Georgia boy. Through and through, I'm about it. Yeah.

That's it, Ochoa. I mean, I just wish to get back on track. Yeah. Through and through. I'm about it. Yeah. But that's it. Ocho, I mean, I just wish to get back on track. Yeah. Because we were talking about the college kids. Yeah, my bad, my bad, my bad. No, no, no, we're good. We're good. This is our show. We talk about what the hell we want to talk about.

This is our show. We got a script, but we don't have to adhere to linear television. Okay, we got to rap. No, no, no. We talk as long as we want to on a subject, as long as we don't have to adhere to linear television okay we got a rap no no no we talk as long as we want to on a subject as long as we want to we can go back so that's the luxury that we have and that's why we did it what we did on our way this is our channel this is nightcap this is our issue so we go as long as we want to as short as we want to on a given topic let's go back pete carroll is out as head coach of Seattle. Pete Carroll tenure 137, 89 and one 10 playoff appearances in 14 seasons,

a Superbowl championship. Pete Carroll was very grateful and appreciative during his presser today, but he made it pretty clear that he tried to stay on as Seattle's head coach. He declined to get into detail as to what happened with ownership, uh, asked about going elsewhere. Well, we'll have to wait and see. Today is today.

Moving to an advisory role has been the respectful way of moving off someone that's helped the organization. The Broncos did the same with John Elway. Right. Ocho, this is why.

Had he run the ball with Marshawn Lynch. Man, talk to me now. We look at Pete Carroll. We look at that legion of boom totally different. Sherb and Earl and Bennett and Chance and Russ beast mode.

They're supposed to be a two-time champ. Yeah, easily. They're supposed to be a two-time champ. Easily two-time champ. And let me ask you a question to go back on what you just said about disrespecting your head coach and not having respect for him making the call.

As Russell Wilson, and with great understanding in the situation you're in, in the scenario you're in, and you know you're on the one and you have B-Smoke, who is having a good game. Right. You're on the one-yard have beast mode who is having a good game right you're on the one yard line right and pete carroll whoever's calling the offensive plays calls a pass play with a switch route switch release on the goddamn goal line why not take it amongst

yourself to change the play and run the ball with marchhawn. Maybe. Is that defiant or disrespectful to you as similar in the same case? I know it's apples and oranges and what I'm talking about. I'm just saying because that's the Super Bowl on the line. Right. And you changing that play,

I will bet my bottom dollar and I bet my house that you run that dive with Marshawn Lynch, he getting that one yard to win that game. Well, I'm going to run until he does. I think the thing is, Ocho, the question is, did Russ feel like he had the power to audible out of that play?

Peyton Manning has the power. Drew Brees has the power. Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady has the power. Does Russ, did they empower him because I remember in situation we were in Kansas City and it was like fourth and one it was fourth and one we were probably like the 30 yard line right and I remember John uh Mike called a timeout and Mike was going to go for it and John said no Mike don't go for it let's punt the ball let's make them Beatles right knowing Marty the way he's playing he's playing it like this no we're not gonna give no, Mike, don't go for it. Let's punt the ball. Let's make them beat us. Right.

Knowing Marty, the way he's playing, he's playing it like this. No, we're not going to give him anything cheap. Let's punt the ball. Mike sent the punt team in. We won the ball game 14-10. Okay. So in a situation like that,

now let's just say for the sake of argument, the game is 14-13. Now, instead of trying to throw the ball into the end zone, they need a field goal to kick a field goal to beat us right so in that situation for me i don't know why and i understand uh they probably if i'm not mistaken i think um the patriots brought a 53 defense in five down three linebackers. I don't care. That's the thing that you always talk about. Letting somebody dictate what you're going to do. Yeah.

I hate that. I hate that. So in other words, and stuff like we're going to throw it, they got them five. They got them big on the field. We're going to throw them all. But once you see Brandon Brown in the slot and you see him in a press,

it's going to be hard as hell because he's standing right there in front of you. Yeah. Yeah. Standing right there in front of you. He's standing right there in front of you. If he gets his hands on you, there's no way. It's a wrap. You're going to force the guy to come even flatter, and now you give Malcolm Butler a beeline

to come get you. I'm a little surprised by this move. I don't think anybody saw this coming. I don a little surprised by this move. I don't think anybody saw this coming. I don't think anybody saw this move coming. But it was never the same. I remember you go back and look at my podcast. I did this, I think that was a 2014.

That was 2014? What year was that? 2014, Super Bowl? Yeah, 2014. Go back and look. I said it. I said it's never the same. I said it's over.

You might as well break this up right now. I said that team will never look at Pete the same. Yeah. Go back and look. I said it. I said it's never the same. I said it's over. You might as well break this up right now. I said that team will never look at Pete the same. Yeah. Because it's the one time that the team's going to look at the head coach

and say, you cost us this. And let the players decide the game on the field. Yeah. And we always, we talk about this,

Ocho, hey, coaches, sometimes coaches get in their own way because they want to think, I'm a genius. I'm so smart. We're going to do this. No, no, no, no. No, coaches, sometimes coaches get in their own way because they want to think, I'm a genius. I'm so smart. We're going to do this.

No, no, no. No, no, no. Overthinking. Let your players decide the outcome of it. Put them in the best situation, and they'll do what they need to do. Yeah. Listen, I always say the game of football, you don't have to complicate it. It's X's and O's, and I compare it to chess sometimes. I compare it to the game of football, you don't have to complicate it. It's X's and O's. And I compare it to chess

sometimes. I compare it to the game of chess. Your pieces against my pieces. I'm going to put my pieces in the best position to win. Even if your pieces are a little better, more skillful, I'm going to scheme it to where my pieces have an advantage. And'm going to try to i'm sure we'll try to checkmate you each and every time all the way down the field i think the checkmate for the 2014 seattle seahawks on the goal line right don't complicate it even if they have a 53 defense in there give the ball to marshawn lynch yes man oh man i guarantee you they have two super bowls two sub bowl rings right now oh joe but if you remember right before the half what did they do they threw the ball they had Man, oh, man, I guarantee you they have two Super Bowl rings right now. Ocho, but if you remember, right before the half, what did they do?

They threw the ball. They had no timeouts, and they got a touchdown. So you're feeling good about yourself, Ocho. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? You start to feel good. Like, I got away with one. I get me another one. Mm-hmm.

Hey, get out your own way. Yeah. Get out your own way. But Pete Carroll is out. It's going to be interesting the direction that they go in. Jody Allen, I think that's her name, Jody. Jody Allen, she's the sister of Paul Allen, Microsoft guy. He passed away, left everything to her.

And she's like, you know, I want to move in a different direction. But this team was supposed to have two championships. This team would have been thought of a lot different had they had multiple championships. The greats, a lot of teams have won one in a row. If you want to be special and be remembered, you got to repeat. And it's hard. Very hard. I mean, you go back to Packers in the 60s. The Steelers did it

back to back. I think, what, 74, 75, or 76, 77? No, 70s. 75, 76, 74, 75, and then they did it again

in 78, 79, if I'm not mistaken. There's a six-year period, but they won four titles. 78, 79, and I think 74, 75. I mean, I'm just spitballing that, but Ash said I was correct. But it's hard, Ocho.

You go to the 49ers in the 80s, theboys in the 90s we did it in the 90s you got the Patriots did it they won back to back it's hard because what happens Ocho you good you're free agents everybody come write them I mean if you got chickens that lay

golden eggs guess what I'm coming to rob I'm coming to steal it guys want bigger payday I tell guys if you win a Super bowl hey man look here go get that payday yeah you can't eat the rings now i mean they're nice to have they're nice to look good it's your safety positive budget look at like right look at that that night but yeah i like to look my hey i have my sister pull up my breaker let me see that that look nice yeah that's your lead yeah that's what makes it makes it so much difficult. You think about the Rams winning the Super Bowl or

let me think, Patriots winning the Super Bowl. The pieces, the pieces always change. The pieces of the puzzle always change. I think that's what makes it so much more difficult to repeat because you want to keep your team together. The more players you can keep as far as that have won the Super Bowl

with experience, veteran experience, bringing some new people through the draft, it's so goddamn hard. Because once you win, shoot, man, I'm trying to get paid, man. I'm trying to get paid. Coach O, this is what I've learned. And I've been on two teams that won championships. I won 97-98, skipped 99-1 won 2000 with the ravens the thing that you have to be careful of when you win the super bowl everybody starts to believe they're the reason why oh everybody starts to want more credit than they deserve see the grounds the grounds crew said you know what

you won because the way we cut the grass the people in the cafeteria said you won because the way we prepared the food and the people that that that vacuumed and did the floors and did the laundry. It was because of us. And the videographer said it was because the way we cut the tape. And then so everybody starts to think. You didn't think like that before we won. Right. But now that we won now. See, for me, I was always, look, I understood John TD. It was a pie. Let's just say the team was a pie. TD and John was going to get the biggest slice. Even if it wasn't a crumb, that's something.

That was more than we were going to get had we not won. See, people don't look at it like that, Ocho. See, I look at it like this. What was we going to get had we not won? Was I going to get these opportunities? No. Because everybody likes a champion everybody likes a winner so now I'm getting something that had we not won

I wouldn't have got right people always complain about well I ain't get this I ain't get enough something 10% of something is better than 100% of nothing nothing you know a lot of times people like to be,

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Also, Mike Vrabel. Mike Vrabel was let go of the Tennessee Titans. Hey, that was crazy. That was crazy, and I didn't expect that one. That was another one I didn't expect. Pete, I didn't expect at all. Obviously, the Seahawks went 9-8. They could have been better.

They were doing well in the beginning of the season and didn't end as well as they thought it should have. Obviously, they felt they needed to go in a different direction right like rabel will levis first year as a starter or starting i mean you you would think you would give him a little bit more time you know to to sink and gel with with will but they decide they're going in a different direction too. Yeah, Ocho. Man, look here, man. Ocho, that's why it's so hard. When you got in the league, Ocho, basically, they would... I remember Carson didn't start it.

Think about it. Imagine a number one overall draft pick not starting. Carson did not start. John Kittner did. John, John Kittner, yeah. Oh, John. That's unheard of. Yeah. To think a kid

drafted in the first round that high is not going to start. Whoa, first pick, man. Thank you. So, what is that? So now, Ocho, I got a three-year window. I got to make a decision because now I got to pay a guy $200 million, a quarter of a billion.

Now, probably in another two years, the going rate for a quarterback is going to be $300 million. Well, you got to be that boy to get $300 million now. Look here. Daniel Jones got $160 million. He ain't that nothing. The timing was perfect. First third year. Yeah, time was perfect.

You see what happened, though, Joe? They had nowhere else to go. Yeah, you was perfect. You see what happened, though, Joe? They had nowhere else to go. Yeah, you're right. I see where you're going. See, now we got free agency because, okay, this is the tradeoff. Right. The NFL says, you know what, man? We got Sam Bradford to make it.

Sam Bradford is the highest-paid quarterback of the league. He ain't through NFL football yet. So they went back, put the rookies on a scale. But the trade-off was okay. You can't do anything for the first three years. Then after that, boom. Yeah. Now if you good,

if you good, if you that boy, if you are a franchise-changing quarterback, are you going there doing shit like C.J. Stroud? Man, shit. C.J. might be the one to get that $300 million. There it is.

C.J. might be the one to get that $300 million. You know he's coming up, what, 2027 or 2026? 2026. So you're going to get 24, 25, 25. So coming into 27, break bread. Man, 300 plus. Hey, C.J. Stroud, I said it here first man let me get let me get two percent how about your boy so 23 24 one year four five two years five six so in the yeah hey after that third year oh joe yeah they're gonna have to see it yeah at the at the

end of 26 27 so the thing is so the thing is ohcho, you sped up the process in which I have to evaluate it. Right. And because of free agency, you can't just – you can't just – because before, Ocho, think about it. Just think about the Steelers. How are you going to keep – if there's free agency, how do you keep Joe Green, defensive player of the year, Mel Blunt, defensive player of the year,

Jack Lambert, defensive player of the year? How do you keep all of them Defensive Player of the Year, Mel Blunt, Defensive Player of the Year, Jack Lambert, Defensive Player of the Year? How do you keep all them? And you got Jack Hamm. And you got Donny Schell. And you got Franco, Terry Bradshaw, Lance Swan, Mike Webster, John Starworth. How do you keep all them, Ocho?

You can't. You can't. The only way you can, there's no free agency. So you got 10 Hall of Famers that basically played their entire career. Now, Mike Webster did end up going to Kansas City. He was in Kansas City my rookie year. Jack is all get out. I mean, he was, whoo. I remember like, because it's funny, Ocho, you know,

I got into the league and I'm seeing all these guys that, I mean, Mike Webster, Joe Ferguson that used to hand the ball off to OJ. I'm like, damn y'all. I'm talking about they in the 70s and Harry Dill's the 90s, Ojo. And I'm looking at them. I see Jay Wright. I see Joe Montana. I'm like,

oh man, that's cool. That's how I was when I first made it too. That's how I was. That was a great feeling. That was a great feeling. That was a funny feeling, man. Yes. Seeing the people you used to watch growing up as a kid and all of a sudden you're right there on the field with them.

And remember, the Bucks did the same thing with Bruce Arians. Oh, that advisory thing? Yeah. Send him upstairs? Yes. Go ahead, Ocho. That's all I was saying? How they

send Bruce upstairs? Are they doing Pete Carroll the same way? Is Bruce Arians, is he still with the Bucs upstairs in the advisory role? Yes. Okay, yeah. He hasn't been visible at all. No. No. Ocho, what do you think? What's the most attractive coaching gig? Is it

the Seahawks, the Falcons, the Chargers, the Commanders, Raiders, Titans, Patriots or Panthers? That's easy. That's easy for me. Chad, I know you're going to agree with me. If you know the game of football, I think when you look at it with the teams you name,

the teams have pieces. The Falcons have pieces. You know, Pitts, B. John Robinson. Drake London. Jesse Bates, Drake London. You look at the Raiders, they have nice pieces. Devontae Adams. Yeah, Josh Jacobs.

Josh Jacobs. They got Crosby on the defensive side. You look at the Titans. DeHop wasn't on the one year, right? DeHop's not on the one year. Okay. Derrick Henry is probably going to be gone. He's on the Titans. DeHop wasn't on the one year, right? DeHop's not on the one year. Okay. Derrick Henry is probably going to be gone. He's going to leave.

So that's really not favorable. You look at the Patriots. I mean, what you working with? Talk to me. No. Okay, exactly. Panthers, you have Bryce Young. You have a lot of work you need to do.

You got a lot of work you need to do. Offensive line, you need some receivers. You need a little bit of everything. Commanders, I mean, listen, unbelievable wide receiver trio. Curtis Samuel, Terry McLaurin, Jahan Dotson, that's great. What are you going to do

with your quarterback situation? They're taking the quarterback at the first. They're taking the quarterback with that. I think they're the third or the fourth pick. They're taking the quarterback. Ain't going to be no quarterback at the third pick. Oh, you know what? Marvin Harrison Jr. going second, so you probably are right. They probably get Drake May. They probably get Drake May

unless somebody overleaps or overlaps him. So the best team that has the most pieces to work with where it's like, I'm not calling the Warriors. I'm not calling the Warriors. But when Steve Kerr took over from Mark Jackson with the Warriors back in the day

because he had so much talent around him, the goddamn Chargers got so much talent offensively, so much talent defensively. I don't know who is going to come in the coach to charge defensively, but you got to be looking at your chops. You got to be looking at your chops what you got to work with over with the Chargers.

Man, they just got to be able to keep Mike Williams healthy for whatever reason. Big, strong, physical, can high point the football. He's nice. Oh, he can stay healthy. Oh, Joe. He's nice. He's nice.

Keenan. Keenan was having a great season. I think he ended up getting nicked and missed a couple of games at the end of the season. You got Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert's going to have to find a way to win these close games. I'm tired of all this talent.

I mean, yeah, he's super immensely talented. Talented in the attributes that you can see. Big time arm. Change arm angle. Roll outside of the pocket. Control from different arm angles. Yeah, left to right. But, okay. I need to see what's in here. I need to get, hey, when the rubber needs to meet

the road, I need you to make it happen for me, bro. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Right. So, I think they're make it happen for me, bro. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Right. So I think they're going to probably, they need a bigger back. I mean, I like- You know, like Austin Eckler was on a- He's more of a utility back. Right, right, right, right.

Like Darren Sproles a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I agree with you. But like I said, if I'm Justin Fields, I say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I agree with you. But like I said, if I'm Justin Fields, I say, bro, Atlanta, come get your boy. Atlanta? Atlanta, come get Justin Fields. Yeah, that'd be nice. On that track?

That'd be nice. On that track? The fans in Chicago were chanting Fields, Fields, Fields, Fields. Yeah, they chanted that this year, but they was also chanting what you heard when they were saying the year before last. And the year before that. So they got, I mean, the Chicago fans, I know it get cold up there, so maybe it's going to froze some of y'all mind.

But we know what you were saying before, too. Right. So you think it's time for Fields to move on? I would. You think the best destination for him would be? Atlanta. Would be Atlanta. Mike Vick 2.0. He's from the area. Time for Fields to move on? I would. You think the best destination for him would be? Atlanta? Would be Atlanta. Mike Vick 2.0.

He's from the area. Oh, I didn't know that. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. I mean, they just got Desmond Ritter. They just drafted Desmond Ritter. Desmond Ritter ain't nothing because Ocho, he turned the ball over entirely too much.

Entirely too much, Ocho. Damn. But he's not even in year three yet, though, huh? Yeah, Ocho. You giving up on him already? For Justin Fields? Okay, I see where you're going with it. Yeah, man, please.

I see where you're going with it. Okay. Yeah, but I mean, that's a no-brainer as far as which is the most attractive team for coaches. I mean, hell, Bill Belichick, I think, I'm thinking about Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick should go to Alabama. Nah.

Nah. Nah. I think his philosophy and way of coaching won't resonate with these young kids in this era. Hell, it don't seem like his way of coaching didn't resonate with this NFL team since Tom Brady left, huh? Because you heard what

Amendola said. Amendola said we worked for Belichick. We played for Tommy. Oh, shit. I didn't hear that quote. Julian Edelman said we worked for Coach Belichick. We played for Brady. That was nice.

That's a good one. I like that. That's a good one. Hey, that. That's a good one. Hey, can I smoke while I'm on the show? That's your house. Okay. I'm just asking. I don't need to try nothing. No.

Raiders, the Patriots. I mean, the Patriots don't have enough offensive pieces for me. The defense. But here's the thing. Defense is great. Defense is great. But how far are you going to get? Judon got hurt.

With the defense and not having no offense. Judon got hurt. So he'll come. Judon got hurt. He'll be back. Gonzalez, that DB, when they took it to the first round, he looked good.

Hey, that's the one from UW, right? He from UW, University of Washington? Or I got the wrong street. Oregon. Was he from Washington or Oregon? Gonzalez. It's one of them. It's Pac-12.

I think it's Oregon. Yeah, he was nice. Boy, he the real deal. He nice. He showed the injury. Yeah. Showed the injury. I was watching him. He's from the Ducks. It is Oregon? Okay, okay. He's nice.

Yeah. Amendola said... Did I say... I thought I said... Edelman? I said Edelman. Amendola said it I say I thought I said Edelman I said Edelman Amendola said it excuse me I apologize

Amendola said it oh man that's crazy Titans I don't know I don't know what you call they got some

defensive pieces I like Harold Landry I like Jeffrey Simons they got some they got some nice pieces defensively Jeffrey Simmons is still there right yeah he's still there yeah yeah oh yeah I like Al Landry. I like Jeffrey Simons. They got some nice pieces defensively. Jeffrey Simmons is still there, right?

Yeah. He's still there, yeah. Al Landry? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think Landry got hurt. Did Landry get hurt?

But Simmons, Jeffrey Simmons. He nice. He's a Simmons. He pronounced it Simmons or Simons. Simmons? Simmons. Jeffrey Simmons. Yeah, Simmons. He nice. He nice. I like him a Simmons. He pronounced it Simmons or Simons? Simmons? Simmons. Jeffrey Simmons. Yeah, Simmons.

He nice. He nice. I like him a lot. Titans, do you believe in Will Levis? Yeah, I like him. Now, that's some other... That joker there, well, he got an arm. He got an arm. He just...

Listen, he got an arm. He spelled his name like Levi's. Will Levis, yeah. Yeah, Will Levis. He got an arm. I mean, he can make all the thing. He got an arm. He spelled his name like Levi's. Will Levis, yeah. Yeah, Will Levis. He got an arm. I mean, he can make all the throws. When I think about it, I think more mobile than Roethlisberger. Does that make sense?

Yeah. More mobile. He can make all the throws. Left hash, right hash. He can do all that. Now, all you got to do is get him something to throw to. You had DeHop. DeHop had a decent season.

You got to get him some animals over there. You got to get him some animals or some dogs, and he going to be all right. Yeah. So we'll see what happens. The NFLPA releases their second player all-pro team. Kelsey was a tight end. I disagree with this. I think everybody knows what I think of my nephew. But Kittle had a tight end. I disagree with this. I think everybody knows what I think of my nephew.

But Kittle had a better year. Yeah. I mean, Kittle was the only one that had 1,000 yards this year at the tight end position. I mean, honestly, Kittle or Laporta. Laporta was on fire. He got hurt too, though, right? Yes.

Yeah, he got hurt. He got hurt. Yeah. And then you had, for the defensive side, George Kittle had 65 receptions, 1,020, averaged 15.7, and six touchdowns on 90 targets. Travis Kelsey had 121 targets, 93 receptions, 984 yards. Kudos to Kelsey because he broke a streak. I think he had like eight consecutive thousand-yard seasons.

He only needed 16 yards. They ain't even playing. They ain't even playing. He didn't play. But Sam Laporta had 86 catches, 889 yards, and 10 touchdowns. So, for me, Evan Ingram had 114 catches, 963. But, for me, George Kittle should have been for the players let me know what you think about this

and for the outside for the edge rushers Miles Garrett and Crosby, Max Crosby double X, Max were the edge rushers over Micah and TJ and TJ Watt

what do you think the metrics were in deciding who to pick? Because obviously it wasn't stat-based. Yeah. Obviously it wasn't stat-based, so exactly what metric system did they use to pick those two over TJ Watt, who led the league in sacks?

I'm sure there had to be something else that they used to decide on who to pick. And that's nothing against Miles Garrett, real deal. Nothing against Max Crosby. Max Crosby, excuse me. Young Bull got a motor. Yeah, man.

Young Bull got a motor and never stopped. Yeah, man. This can't be statistically based on how they chose who to pick. So I'm just sure what metrics they use to pick those two. It was kind of like the Pro Bowl. You can't vote for yourself. You can't vote for yourself. You can't vote for your own team. But centers can vote for centers

and who you played against. So if I'm a center, I can vote for, if I'm Creed Humphrey, I can vote for Linderbaum at Baltimore. And for the DTs or the nose tackles, say I got Simmons or I'm voting for Aaron Donald

or whomever, you know what I'm saying? So that's how it went. So it seems to me tight ends said that Crosby and Garrett and guys that play the edge said we think those guys are better. Now, I'm looking at TJ Watt had 19 sacks, 19 tackles for losses, eight pass defense, one interception, four forced fumbles, three fumble recovery, and a defensive touchdown. He's the only guy that made the list of Josh Allen.

I think he's at Jacksonville. Allen, Hendrickson, Khalil Mack, Danell Hunter, Max Crosby, Michael Parsons, Miles Garrett. He's the only guy of that group that recorded a defensive touchdown. He had the most fumble recoveries. He was one forced fumble behind Khalil Mack. But it just, look,

and I don't think Michael made it last year. I don't think, and he's probably scratching his head like, well, hold on, wait a minute, fellas. What's really going on? Yeah. Ain't no telling. What you think going on?

I have no idea. I'm not sure. That's why I said what metrics do they use to decide on who to put there first as opposed to you always told me numbers matter. Numbers matter. So if numbers matter and stats matter, then T.J. Watt would definitely be first. And then after that, hell, Trey Henderson was right behind him when it comes to sacks.

So why wasn't he mentioned? Right. Don't know him. So I'm just curious. I don't want to say it's a favoritism contest. I don't want to say it's a popularity contest. If you're going to do it, you have to have some consistency with it on why you pick these players.

I agree. I agree. But I'm sure it means a little more to you because these are players that you play against. Because, you know, the Pro Bowl is players,

it's coaches, and it's the fans. Right, right. And so anytime your peers, those are the guys that you fight against. And so you think I'm a hell raiser. I like that. I like that. Right.

But, I mean, the list up here, like I said, I only got problems. I think George Kittle deserved to be the tight end. Right. And, but here's the thing, Ocho. When you put somebody on, you have to take somebody off. So if you put Micah on, you're taking Miles Garrett off or you're taking Max Crosby off. And that's the problem when they've all played well. Yes. So then you just put the person who is really at the top statistically.

So there's no problems. You can't argue it. Then T.J. Watt should be the guy. Right. And I think T.J. Watt missed a couple games too, didn't he? I know he got injured the last game, but like I said, my biggest gripe is with the tight end. And that's not a knock on Kelsey because I think he's phenomenal. Yeah, phenomenal he is.

But this year, Kittle should have been the all-pro because he catched the ball, he's tremendous run at the catch, and he amassed in the run game. He's a second offensive lineman. Oh, yeah. I mean, he pancaked.

Hey, he pancaking folks. Oh, yeah. He handled his own D-ends, linebackers, safeties, corners. Oh, he an He handled his own D-ends, linebackers, safeties, corners. Oh, he an animal. He an animal in the run game. Yeah.

Most definitely. Jerry Goff said, Chip would never leave me from the Rams trade. Kelly Stafford responds to the Lions fan page, Stafford Jersey Band on IG.

Well, this is Sam. Hold on. Band of Jersey manager manager for what for what check this out kelly said um i've met her um what did i go i think i went to the nfc championship game and i was up there and i got an opportunity to meet her so uh and uh so she's she's lovely great um she does what she watched nightcap sometimes. I know she does. Well, this is sad because it's the completely opposite of how I feel about this city. But Matthew has always been a bigger person

and will continue to be that. Praying for an incredible game with zero injuries. So, oh man. So, they posted Ocho. I don't know if you can. Yeah, I saw it.

I saw it. Come on, Ocho. Really? Yeah. Man, man. So they posted Ocho. I don't know if you can. Yeah, I saw it. I saw it. How about Ocho? Really? Yeah. Man, listen. It's fans. There ain't no fans. Fans.

Who did that? And there probably ain't even no real fans, probably. Oh, okay. Yes, the fan club, the biggest Lions fan club. Well, you know how they feel. Yeah. You know how they feel. And that's fine.

That's fine. That's okay. That's great. that's how you feel about me it don't matter right go out there and handle your business because then you can't do nothing about that and you know they only love you when you're part of them when you're going about your business it's a different ball game that's just that's just the nature of that that that is ain't true, Ocho. For me, I mean, I got... Well, you know what I mean. That's not true because every fan base loves me. But some it is now. Some it is.

I mean, because when I came back to Denver, they gave me love. When I went back to Baltimore, they gave me love. Now, I'm not a quarterback, and maybe it's a quarterback, maybe it's different. But they always gave... They showed me love. Baltimore and Bronco country gave me love

so i ain't got nothing but respect for the fans in both of those cities but this is petty this is hell here they're very petty very petty when i think about it listen steelers browns ravens when it comes to the fans there was a true hatred and disdain for each other. But for some reason, for some reason, regards to where I was, especially when we played away, there was always love. Because, one, I had my fun. I did my entertaining stuff. I talked my trash to entertain the fans to give them believable material and give them something to look forward to for the game. There was always love and there was nothing but respect. Of course, you have your few that want to talk trash

from the stands and I entertain it and engage back with it. But after that, there was nothing but respect. Now, quarterbacks is a different ball game. Well, they booed. I mean, I think they booed Tom a little bit when he went back to New England from Tampa. I love it.

It's always... You are the enemy, though. I love it. You know, it's always, it's always. You are the enemy, though. I mean, I know you, we love you, but you are the enemy. You're the enemy for three hours. Yes. You're the enemy for three hours. You know, your resume, what you've done for us, it will never be forgotten. But once you're gone, you're the enemy in between them lines.

But you know what, Ocho? Look, if you want to applaud a guy, when he come out and introduce him, you applaud. Yay. But you know what, Ocho? Look, if you want to applaud a guy, when he come out and introduce him, you applaud, yay. Hey, when that Joe try to catch a pass, I'm going to boot the brakes off you. You drop one, I'm going to yell, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Right. A quarterback, knock him out. Get him out. Oh, hey, that's just, I'm a fan. I appreciate what you did while you were here, but you're not here now. So you the enemy uh rojo which quarterback do you think has the most at stake out of oh playoff playoff playoff yes oh dac of course we know that we know that they haven't won anything since 1995 every year every year since 1996 every year is their year. Every year is their year. Obviously,

Dak, you're playing for America's team. You understand what that comes with. Michael Parsons, I don't think has really grasped the concept in understanding who he's playing for. You're playing for America's team. That's why all the tension is on you. The Dallas Cowboys move the needle. Jerry Jones moves the needle. They are the team that is going to make the headlines and move the needle for all broadcasts, for all stations, for all journalists, for all analysts. The highest stakes are on the Cowboys. And I think they're going to get over the hurdle this year. I think they're going to get over that hurdle this year. At some point this year, they're going to meet the goddamn San Francisco 49ers in that hurdle this year. At some point, at some point this year, they're going to meet the goddamn San Francisco

49ers in that NFC championship. And I'm hoping, I'm hoping they handle business. I'm for Kyle. If Kyle make the Super Bowl, I'm going to go. Because I already know I'm good. I can call Mike Shanahan. If I

have no job, I guarantee I'll call Mike Shanahan. Hey, what have no job I guarantee I'd call Mike Shanahan hey what's going on 84 Mike I need a job I mean what you want to do I want to do something for the 49ers you going to coach you ain't play for the 49ers I don't but I tell you what

my former coach is there in the sun okay I see what you're saying. Bet you that. Well, shit, I'm coming with you then. You come on. Yeah, I agree with you. I think Dak has the most at stake.

Oh, yeah. Followed closely by Josh Allen. Josh Allen's right behind him. That's a good one because remember they were 13 seconds away from advancing to the NFC title game I mean excuse me AFC title game

and having the game in their building and last year they got they got knocked out early Cincinnati went there and beat the Braves off and so it's time now it's time you know they got knocked out early. Cincinnati went there and beat the Brakes off. Yeah. And so it's time now.

It's time. You know, Dak led the league in touchdown passes. CD led the league in catches. Bro, offensively, you know, you got a solid offensive line. You don't run the ball. But I don't think you put a heavy emphasis on running the football. If you run the football, you got to put an emphasis on it. You got to make sure everybody understands their responsibility.

Wire receivers got to get in there and dig out safeties. You got to knock people off them. That's how you get long runs. The offensive line got to be violent. They're a little older now. They've been involved in a lot of collisions. Zach Martin, he's still a solid player. He's not violent like he's not as violent as

he once was. You see Tyron Smith miss games, start to miss three, four games annually. But they're still a solid, they're still a solid ball club. They're going to get a game at home. Yeah. Maybe two. Who knows?

Maybe three. Listen, the Cowboys at home. The Cowboys at home? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. They putting up 24, 28, 29. No, they're averaging 37, I think 37.4, 37.5 points at home. I thought it dropped down a little bit. No, hell no.

No. If they listen, they get two at home. Mind you, after this weekend, it's only two more after that. Yeah. You got the division around in the NFC title game. It's only two more after that before the big dance. Boy, if Dak went to goddamn Super Bowl this year, man,

they might as well put the goddamn statue outside the goddamn AT&T Stadium or whatever the name of the goddamn stadium is. Jerry's World? No, it's going to be Dak's World. Ain't going to be no goddamn Jerry's World. Let me ask you a question. You know Dak win the playoff, I mean, win the Super Bowl.

You know his contract up, right? See, these already said, I want to be the highest paid. What you think Michael want to be? Now, what's the likelihood of you having the three highest paid players on one team? Somebody got to sacrifice Ocho. They ain't going to work. They ain't going to work. And I'm not sure. I wouldn't be the one to do it.

I don't want to be the one doing the number crunching. I wouldn't even want to be Jerry at that point. I do. I want to be Jerry. I think it's a good problem to have. It's a great problem to have, but it's only so much you can do. The salary cap is still, the salary cap is going up, but it's a good problem to have. It's a great problem to have, but it's only so much you can do. The salary cap is still, the salary cap is going up. But it's not going up enough

to where you're able to pay back what he's owed and what he's deserved. Especially, especially, excuse me, if you go deep into the playoffs and oh, hell yeah, you win a Super Bowl,

you might as well just back out the brink truck. You might as well back out. Matter of fact, you know what you could do? Back out two of them. They do it in college before the NIL money.

Well, listen, Dak, we're going to give you this and we're going to stack a little something under the table. I don't know they would like that. You don't want to be like, they might, Roger Goodell might put

the death penalty on Jerry. Take my cellmate and grab him. Ain't nobody got to know. Ain't nobody got to know. Ain't nobody got to know. Ocho, what did I tell you? If more than one person knows something.

Somebody got to be dead. Okay. That's the only way to keep that hush hush. Ocho, Jerry said, and if I'm the old agent, they say, Jerry, I heard you say you have no idea the size of the check I'd be willing to write for one more Super Bowl

when you got it. Now, how big a check you going to write for that? How big a check you going to write for CD, how big a check you going to write for Dak? How big a check you going to write for CD? How big a check you going to write for Micah? Well, shit, listen. The game of football is 11 on 11.

You can't play three. You can't play three on 11. That ain't got nothing to do with me. You told me my job. You told me my job is to play. So don't come to me talking about, hey, help us out on the cap.

Give us a hometown discount. Oh, no. Ain't no discount, man. As a matter of fact, I ain't even from Dallas. I give my hometown a discount. You're right. I give Glenville a discount.

I ain't giving you ish because I ain't from Dallas. And the Cowboys ain't my team. Yeah. Hey, listen. I'm hoping. I'm hoping for Dak's sake. I'm not a Cowboy fan.

I'm a fan of players. I'm a fan of individuals. I'm a fan of individuals that I want to see get over the hump. I'm a fan of individuals that I want to see succeed. If there's one player that has constantly been bombarded and harassed, rightfully so. Let me state that. Rightfully so for not being able to get his team to where they're deservingly should be. I really want to see Dak do it.

I really want to see him do it. Right. This is what I think what everybody's been in the chat. How many people got in the chat, Ash? I think this is what the people have been waiting for. Yeah. Us, our commentary, what we're going to say. Stephen A unloads on Jason Whitlock.

Oh, oh, oh! Stephen A will come with them, bang with them hate makers. What? Stephen A, Whitlock called Stephen A's book, Farsicle, saying he had an issue with the claim that he was recruited by Winston-Salem State to play basketball despite only playing one year in high school.

Whitlock said Stephen A was lying about going to an open try at Winston-Salem and hitting 17 three-pointers and getting a scholarship offer after that's right on the spot. Stephen A. says he contacted ESPN leaders just to warn them about his segment on Jason Whitlock.

I don't know if you watched the show, but I told Stephen A., I said, Stephen A., will you please stop lending people your audience? Yeah. Sometimes, listen, sometimes you got to put people in your place. Sometimes you got to put people in your place. Because what happens is if you don't say nothing, they're going to keep on coming at you and they're going to keep on coming for you.

Normally, when you're in school and there's a bully and he's bullying you, he's going to keep on bullying you until you stand up to him. So at some point, I'm assuming Stephen A has fed up because Mr. Whitlock has always been going at him and going at him and going at him and going at him and taking shots at him.

And now he's finally fed up. You got to stand up for yourself. This is what Stephen A says. Stephen A says I'm a very forgiving person stand up for yourself. But Ocho, this is what Stephen has said. Stephen has said, I'm a very forgiving person. Not with him. I hate this, you know, B-A-S-T-A-R-D far more than a little bit. He's the worst human being of any you ever you'll ever meet. You get with a mile of his presence, wrap your arms around him and protect your soul.

He's king. He's the devil, the worst. That's all I have to say. Ocho, I get it. You you gotta stand up for yourself sometime uncle you can't do that sometime you gotta stand up for yourself that's like that's like you're like your mama seeing you to school boy if somebody hits you you better hit him back and if you don't hit him back you come home i'm gonna march your ass right back down to that school so you get your lick back. At some point in the Bible, God said, if somebody slap you, turn

the other cheek. No, that's in the Bible. See, I ain't in there. Okay. See, I'm right here. Right there, turn the other cheek. I ain't in there. He was talking about people that were in the Bible. I ain't in there. But think about it. If someone puts something on you, you slap me. Stephen A. Smith, I'm assuming, has been turning

the other cheek for a very long time. And now he's at the point where he's fed up. Yeah. So therefore, to me, listen, I like to see this side. I like to see a different side of Stephen A Smith.

I think all journalists that have a problem with somebody that is sick of people always picking on them or taking shots or saying something. I think they all should. You know what? I think everybody,

chat, all journalists that are going to see this, regardless of what platform you're on, if you have a problem with somebody, I think you should take the Stephen A. Smith route. Let somebody know. It's so refreshing. It's so refreshing to see somebody be

their authentic authentic organic self when they have a problem with somebody instead of that same politically correct bullshit that we always spew I like it you don't like it? you gotta like it for me Ocho

look guys are starting to take shots at me that never took shots at me before you did it on the last show. You just did the same thing. No, Ocho. I didn't mention no name. I remember people knew who I was talking about. I still don't know who you're talking about.

I was just going along. This is what I'm trying to tell. Look, if you look at career-wise, you look at where Stephen A is, and you look at the guy that he was talking about. Stephen A is up here. He's here. Or even lower. So in other words,

see, Ocho, you remember like when we were growing up and somebody be going, hey, man, you going to town? Hey, let me catch a ride. See, the only way he can get up if he's attached himself to Stephen A or somebody that's higher that's going up. I leave him alone. I don't, I don't, up. I leave him alone. Right.

Look, I don't mess with him. I don't mess with him. He knows I don't mess with him. He likes to bring my name. You know Fox tried to feed him some information about this and that, and he threatened. I don't get into all that. I just look.

I know who I am. I know what I am. Okay, y'all say all y'all little stuff because see the problem, the problem that he has with me, see, and this is what a lot of people have that are journalists. You see, I can sit at a desk on ESPN or I did it at Fox and I can do what they do.

They could never live in my world. They could never play pro sports. So now not only could I play sports and I was damn good, I could sit across and I'm more entertaining. I'm more informative. I'm more educational than you.

See, those that can do, those that can't talk. You see, all they can do is talk. I could do. That irks them. It irks them that somebody from rural South Georgia with a list that overcame

that can do this. It bothered them that Complex voted me most entertaining. Come on, guy. It bothered them. That I got the interview with Cat Williams. second most viewed in a

interview on in YouTube history the second 42 million 42 come on that they mad about the Ocho and they owe this and that why y'all bother me I've never said anything about anybody cuz I don't care about you. Stephen A and I have always been cool. Obviously, we're a lot cooler now. He was always cordial to me. I think there was a fondness there because he went to HBCU and so did I. So I know the plights

of people that go. Now, I don't know what it's like now. It's probably a lot better than when Stephen A and I was in school. I'm almost certain of it. But I don't know why so many of these guys got to put my name in their mouth. It seems to be the only way they can get clicks.

You never hear me come on. I've never, unless somebody has said something about me. You don't hear me mention anybody's name. I've never gone on my podcast and talked about a former reporter. When I talk about players, I'm critiquing their play. What's that?

I don't just go out and just start, and I'm paid for that. But they mad. They see I got 2.35 million subs on Club Shea Shea. We're going to about to hit, in another two weeks, we're going to about to hit, in another two weeks, we're going to hit 800,000 subs

in a podcast that's three and a half months old. Right. And so now, the fact that, you know, somebody might throw the bag at us. Man, that show might get picked up. Somebody might throw the bag at Nightcap. Not even mad. Everybody got so, oh, he was a loose cannon.

Oh, he was this. And if he keeps doing, bro, I ain this and if he keeps doing brian said nothing i ain't never said nothing right i don't bother nobody but i tell you what just leave me alone right just just leave me alone whatever you got going on why you mentioning my name i don't mention your name i don't care about you and so look that's crazy. Look, me and Clay Travis, we don't have anything in common. Clay Travis

don't F with the dude that Stephen A was talking about. Right. That should tell you everything you need to know. Clay Travis don't rock with it. And I had my issue with Clay Travis. Y'all can go look up, y'all can go dig up the tweet right

all I said was bro I don't know you and you don't know me but don't make me lose my job enjoy the rest of your day I left it at that you hit it with that on? that's all I did

you can pull up the tweet that's all I said and I don't all that back and forth I I ain't about that. I had one issue with the guy that Stephen A got into it with. I told my bosses. I said, hey, just tell him to keep my name. I won't be here long because I don't play.

I don't do all that back and forth. Leave me the F alone. I don't bother nobody. Right. But, boy, I'm telling you, he don't want any problem. Just leave me. I don't know why he feels such a need to keep my name. Okay, whatever you got going on with Stephen A., that's it.

Okay, y'all both work at ESPN. You're both journalists. Maybe there's competition there. I don't know. Leave me the F alone. I'm not what you want. I'm not what you want i'm not so that's why i told you if you see me nine times out of team if i'm not in the airport if i'm not like working jenna by himself right you see me in whole foods you see me in target you see i'm by myself i'm home 90 of the time

with my dogs because I don't fool with people. And what I've started to see, and I didn't see it at first, everybody saw what was going on with Shannon before Shannon actually saw it himself. Right. Ash used to tell me, Shannon, you don't

understand what you are. I said, Ash, I'm just, she said, no, Shannon, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're not. You're not, no. You're not the same Shannon that you walked in here in 2016. You're a different Shannon now. I said, but Ash, she said, no, Shannon.

Everybody saw what was happening before I did. Ocho, think about it. Now all of a sudden I'm funny. Now all of a sudden I got takes I've always had them but now I'm free

Stephen A is Stephen A there's nothing like, I've never been jealous of a teammate when Ron Smith started to come on I gladly, hey I'm still trying to get my thing, but I'm giving him information, ask Ron, his locker was right across from mine, I remember when he first walked in there, he said I trying to get my thing, but I'm giving him information. Ask Ron. His locker was right across from mine. I remember when he first walked in there,

he said, I want to be like you. I said, what you mean? He said, I want the love and respect the fans give you. I want the way the team, the way they treat you. That's what I want to be. I said, well, this is what you need to do. Ron started coming on. Hey, come on, Fuzz, let's get this.

That's how I am. I don't bother. Ask anybody at CBS. Ask anybody at Fox. I ain't talking about the high ups. Because all the stuff, you never heard anything about Shannon Sharp for six and a half years until all of a sudden the news broke that Shannon Sharp was parting ways with Fox. And then all of a sudden, Shannon Sharp is the worst person ever.

Never heard a peep. Go ask ESP. I don't bother nobody. They call me and say, can you do this? Hey, I'm done. I'm there. What do you think about it?

I'm good. Stephen A wants to know if you, okay, I'm cool. That's how I am. I don't bother people because I don't want nobody to bother me. But somehow my name, whatever you got going on with Stephen A, I just wish Stephen A would let it go. I really I really do.

I like it. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it because sometimes when you don't address stuff like I told you before, we don't address stuff. Man, they will continue to try to bully you. They will continue to keep keep your name, keep your name in their mouth. That's just, that's life. That's the nature of the business. And to see what Stephen A. Smith did, which you don't see very often from journalists, I mean, it's refreshing. It's refreshing and he said he's not gonna address it anymore and that's it. That's it.

Yeah. I mean- Ojo, check this out, I was in the airport and the guy tried to prop me up. He like, man, hey man, you great.

You're a great addition to the show. But I'm trying to put Steve in there down and say, my man, don't do that. I said,

you can give me prop without trying to stand on him. Don't do that. Right. I'm not saying, hey, I appreciate you giving me kudos. I appreciate you saying I'm that. Right. I'm not saying, I appreciate you giving me kudos. I appreciate you saying I'm this.

Right. We can do that without saying something negative about him. I'm not going to stand for that. Nah, we ain't going to do that. Because think about it now. I got a ginormous personality. I'm a big presence.

Ain't a whole lot of people in Stephen A. position would have brought me on. Ain't no way in hell. Ain't no way in hell. Because had I been this in 2016, you think they'd have brought me on in Fox? Me being what I am,

as I sit in this chair, Ojo, you think they'd have brought me on in Fox? Hell no. Hell nah. And I'm okay with it. I understand that. I pay. I do my pay.

I come to work. I show up. I punch the clock. I go home. Ain't cause nobody no problem. Right. Damn. Hey, listen.

In the great words of, I don't even know who said the quote, can't we all just get along? Yeah, we could. Can't we all just get along? Yeah, we could. Can't we all just get along? But, I mean... They're going to take your shots. It come with the territory. You got to be ready for it. It come with the territory. Ojo, I don't mind people that don't

know me taking shots at me because you don't know me. But how you going to be pretending like we were cool and now you try to take a subtle shot but i saw it coming but it's starting to come with greater frequency and regularity what i gave you kudos when you was doing your thing right i just i just i just don't get it i don't but don't. But little do they know, what's for me, God going to give it to me. They can't take it.

You're going to get it regardless. What's for you? Whatever it is. If a bowling ball is supposed to drop on your head, that's what's going to happen. If you're supposed to win the lottery of $100 million, that's what's going to happen. You're going to get what's intended for you. Oh, yeah. So, that's what's going to happen. You're going to get what's intended for you. Oh, yeah. So what's intended for me?

But they make it seem like what bothers me, Ocho, is that people seem like if I start to get a little success and they think money is going to come along with it, that the money is their money. All that money the government printed, $3, $4, $5 trillion during the pandemic. They're not going to run out of money. All that money the government printed $3, $4, $5 trillion during the pandemic. They're not finna run out of money.

It's enough for everybody too. It's enough for everybody. Enough for everybody. But somebody might talk, might say, call Shannon name a little more than they call theirs.

They might say, I like Shannon take on said subject more than they like theirs. They might say, I like Shannon take on said subject more than they like theirs. I don't think, I've always thought like this, and this is what my gran and my grandfather instilled in us. You're not better than someone else.

You just can do a job better than they can. I believe I can do this better than anyone. That's what I believe. And I ain't got to bang my chest. I ain't got to do all this. And no, I ain't no columnist. I ain't no investigative reporter. And I ain't no... No. And see, that's what

Ocho, I mean, it's kind of like how actors feel when somebody didn't go to Juilliard or they're not trained. And all of a sudden they come on to the house except they look at them. They look at them sideways. I mean, bro, you still got your role. You still get your money. Yeah.

That's just the way I am. But everybody, like you said, Ocho, everybody is like that. And I'm starting to understand it. And that's one thing my sister said. She said, Ojo, everybody isn't like that. And I'm starting to understand it. And that's one thing my sister said. She said, Shannon, you're going to get that. Yeah. I got a question. Yeah.

Have you ever thought about the individuals that are saying anything or just having a reason to point out something you're doing and keeping your name in their mouth? Have you thought about reaching out and asking them what the problem is? Nah. They got my number. Oh, they already got your contact too, so they could have came to you first. Of course.

Oh, okay, okay, okay. Of course they could have. All right. They come to me with other stuff. All right, I see where you're going. I hear where you're going. Damn. But it's all good.

I'm going to keep doing me. I'm going to keep doing me. Oh, we got to. We got to. I'm going to make sure you do. Shit. But they're going to be mad here shortly. Trust me.

They're going to be mad. They're going to be mad at us, Ocho. They're going to be real mad. And then what? Y'all make sure you hit that subscribe button, guys. Help us out. We're trying to get to 800,000. Help us get to 800,000 in 10 days.

Nah. Where we at, Ash? Hey, let's get to a million before we go to Super Bowl. Man, that would be lovely. Ocho, we're asking an awful lot. A million by the Super Bowl. Listen, if we can get to a million. That's a month.

If we can get to a million before Super Bowl. Wait, wait. I have a question. Yes. We doing a live show in Super Bowl? Yes? No? What'd you think?

Thursday. Thank you. If we can get to a million before the last Super Bowl show in Vegas in which I will drink Le Portier in front of the whole bottle.

You ain't gonna drink the whole bottle I ain't gonna do that. Huh? Nah, because I'll be doing the show about the whole bottle. I ain't drink the whole bottle. Huh? Nah, because I'll be doing the show about 10 minutes in. I'll be doing the show by myself. Yeah, I can't wait. I can't.

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You can't take, man, come on, Ocho. Yeah, boy, I already know. And the stuff that he's talking about. That's way above my pay grade. It's okay to toe the line. It's okay to toe the line. It's okay to push the envelope. But there's certain things you just don't touch. Especially

what A-Rod mentioned and even implicating that that individual was a part of that. Boy, you can't play like that, boy. And he keeps talking about stuff that happened in 2020. Man, nobody care about Fauci. Nobody care about that COVID vaccine. Okay, you took an alternative.

That's fine. But you try to keep it. Well, first of all, it's just like, oh, I'm going to have the fast and recover. A-Rod, he loved to hear his name mentioned.

That's why he kept talking about, oh, I'm going to come back. I'm going to come back. And then he came back and then they activated. For what? He took a roster spot. Well, I told him,

I told him not to do that. Oh, so they didn't listen to he took a roster spot well i told him i told him not to do that oh so they didn't listen to you this time but when you told him you wanted alan lazard they didn't listen they listened to you when you told him you wanted randall cobb they listened to you but when you told him don't activate you don't put you on the active roster they didn't listen to a man that had achilles surgery so they didn't listen to you then but they listened to y'all the other time see the thing is... Go ahead, okay. Go ahead. I was going to say, he know you weren't going to play. You know you

weren't going to play. You're going to get the headlines anyway. You're going to get the headlines anyway. No, not when you're injured. You know how it is. You've never been injured. But when you're injured, you see guys who talk about them when they're injured. The coaches ain't talking about them.

They not in the game playing. The media not mention them. When's the last time you heard somebody mention Joe Burrow since he got injured? Okay, I see you going with it. That's what he couldn't stand. That's why he kept that bull job going every week trying to take a shot at Travis Kelsey. Talk about the vaccine. You didn't get the vaccine.

Okay, that's fine. Bruh, that's three, four years ago. Move it alone. Trying to take a shot at Travis Kelsey. Talk about the vaccine. You didn't get the vaccine. Okay. That's fine. Bro. That's three, four years ago. Move it alone. But see, Oh,

you hear what a Ross said? I'm surprised they let it go on as long as they did. Because he's keeping these competitors conspiracy theories because he, the thing is, he always thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. That's the thing. He thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Right. thing he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room right but i guarantee you let me ask you a question so did they do alternative medicine on that uh that achilles did he take uh what what are you saying that drug that

that hallucinogenic ayahuasca ayahuasca did he take that to have him put him under or did he take the regular medicine like everybody else took? You see, he pick and choose the type of medicine that he believes in. A-Rod full of what the elephant left on the showground. That's what he full of. Everybody knows it. But a lot of people are afraid to say it. So I'm glad because you can't keep coming on somebody's platform and then talking about their ball and making those kind of accusations,

those conspiracy theories oh Fauci oh the vaccine oh I want to debate Travis Kelsey about this bro nobody care about that damn vaccine people got it that wanted to have it and they didn't they didn't get it move on why are you still talking about some stuff from

2020 I mean 2020 ah that's crazy that's crazy 2020. I mean, 2020. Ah. That's crazy. That's crazy. Listen, I just know some of the... Boy, you understand the privilege you got to have to be able to say some of the stuff he was saying? Of course.

Oh, you're not understanding me. Do you understand the privilege you got to have To be able to say some of the stuff He was saying Shit I would have never Saw the light of day I wish I would have said shit like that

Never First of all If you would have been on a program And you said that you would have never been back on that program Absolutely not Absolutely not. Absolutely not. And it would only take one time. Yeah.

They not bringing me back. So I could re-explain myself again. Oh no, no. To further advance your conspiracy theories. But I like PMAC. I'm glad he made this decision. He's been great.

He's been great to me. He's the model that we're trying to capture because we saw what he did. So that tells us, I mean, he did it. That means it's possible to be done. So therefore, it can be done again. Yeah, most definitely. So that's how we look at it. That's how you and I

approach it, Ocho. So kudos to PMAC for finally taking a stand. Whether ESPN helped with that decision, I think that's the right decision that you made, PMAC, and congratulations. The Miami Heat waited. Go ahead. You want to answer?

Before you finish? No. The person, the first person to answer right on the name, the team, and the name. You can see the name, and the name. I, I, uh... You can see the name, yeah? Yeah. Batista. Yeah. Somebody got it

right. Uh, Philmon Yosef. Philmon Yosef. I'm sure you follow me on Instagram or Twitter. Uh, send me, send me your Zale, send me your Cash app. Uh, Philmon Yosef

you were the first person to answer right with the team and the player's name send me your Zelle, your Instagram your PayPal, your Venmo, whatever it is you use your Cash App and I'm going to send you $1,000 I'm going to do this every night from now on I'm going to have on a different jersey if you're able to guess the player's name on the back

and the team name, I got you with $1,000. You got them with $1,000? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Miami Heat waited until Eric Spoelstra's divorce was finalized and they gave him a record-breaking contract. I think it's eight years, $120 million.

Spoel and Nicky, a former Heat dancer, announced their divorce November 23rd after seven years of marriage. The thing got finalized. Pat Riley, Mickey Harrison excuse me, broke bread. Wait, seven years, huh? Yeah. Well, you know that saying, huh? My grandma used to say all the

time, the seven-year itch, it gets you every time, huh? Yeah. I don't know what happened to me. Listen, seven-year itch, it gets you every time. Hold on. If something's about hitting seven years in anything, either you're going up here or you're going downhill. Ain't no in-between.

I thought it was no fraternization with the cheerleaders and the dancers and the coaches and players. We couldn't mess with the cheerleaders. Wait, who listened to them rules? Man. Me. Wait, who messed with the cheerleader?

She was a dancer. She was? That's what I said, Ocho. Oh, my bad. I didn't know that. But listen, sometimes love is in places where you're not supposed to be looking. And that's what happens. Sometimes you find love in places you're not supposed to be looking. And that's what happens. Sometimes you find love

in places you're not supposed to be looking. Normally, your mama told you, these are the type of boys you don't want to have and you better not bring nothing like this home. And guess what you bring home? Exactly what she told you not to motherfucking bring. Don't we all want what we can't have but we're not supposed

to have? And why does it feel that much better than the things they want us to have? Why is it for him? What was he not supposed to do, Ocho? There's an archer to treat. An archer. Yeah. You just can't eat off this one.

No. He was the only one. He didn't say nothing about it. He could have ate that whole damn tree. Right. You couldn't eat it. Yeah. What she did. No, what he did.

Oh, what he did. You right. You right. Hey, listen. The things that are not good for you feel so... Wait, what's the word? I forgot.

I forgot the saying. The things that are bad for you feel so good. The things that are bad for you. The things that your mama or your daddy told you to stay away from as a woman. Are you looking...

Don't mess with the bad boys. Let me ask you this, Ocho. Don't mess with the bad boys. Don't mess with the bad boys. What you want, Ocho? You want something that's good for you or good to you? That's the problem. That's what you're running into, Ocho. Because see, what's good for you might not be good to you. And what's good to you might not be good for you. So which you want, Ocho?

I'm going to break it down. I'm going to make it real simplistic because I get what you was trying to say. So I'm going to give it to you in a very simple term. You want what's good for you or good to you? Because what's good to you ain't good for you always. Now, what do you want, Ocho? Listen. I want what's good for me.

I want what's good. Baby! Baby! Are you good for me? Are you going to be good to me? Yes, we still working. Are you good for me? Are you going to be good to me?

Answer me. Who? She can't hear. She's wrong again. Really, Greg? Yeah, I mean i mean look i don't look oh joe we don't know why i don't i don't try to profess when people like oh they look so happy man that's for the cameras oh yeah it's always what they're supposed to be arguing in front of the camera they're supposed to be frowning each other in front of the camera? They're supposed to be frowning at each other in front of the camera? I don't know what's going on in someone's home, so I don't profess

to know. So, I don't know. Seven years of marriage? The last two years, the last year, might have been hell for Spoh and Nikki. Right. But something led them to go away. To be wanting to go

their separate ways. Forget them going their separate ways. Why is the divorce rate so motherfucking high? Why is everybody breaking up? Why do things never seem to work out? Look here, the marriage, see, people don't look at marriage as a job.

Because I quit. I quit it. Quit. Quick and hurry, huh? I quit it. I quit. Quick quit it. Quick. Quick in a hurry, huh? I quit it. I quit. Quick in a hurry. Any day, any time. Listen. Hey, you ask a couple, right?

You ask a couple who's been married for years. Always. Nice to do this randomly. Obviously, just to prove a point. Do this randomly. Ask a couple that's been married for a very long time. Everybody say the same thing. It's hard.

It's a lot of work. Yeah, for sure. It's hard. It's a lot of work. Same answer. So are people getting to the point where you know what, I don't feel like working on it no more?

Yeah. Have we gotten to the point where we don't want to grow together? We're not evolving as one? I don't know. It's easier to grow apart than it is to grow together because it takes, it takes work to grow together. It don't take nothing to grow apart.

No, just do what you can do. Just do what you just do what you normally do. And why? Because a lot of times, Oh, Joe, people will plant a seed and think that it's just going to grow,

but no, you got to water it. You got to water it. Yeah. Are you, are you look look I've never been married but I do know the reason why a lot

of my relationship didn't work because I ain't water it I ain't fertilize it but I was watering and fertilizing my career that's on me see I'm not I'm not naive enough to sit here and say it was a woman's fault sometimes it was but 90% of and say it was the woman's fault.

Sometimes it was, but 90% of the time it was mine. Come on, preacher. I own that. Yeah. I own my mistakes. I like that. See, the thing, Ocho, a lot of times when I was growing up, people used to say things, you know, I had a lisp and it was, you know, hard for me to enunciate certain words. things you know i had a lisp and it was you know hard for me to enunciate certain words and my grandmother and i my grandma i tell my grandmother you know people make fun of me and

say things and she said boy it ain't what they call you it's what you answer to so i learned early on if i take ownership of my uh my, my insecurities, you couldn't make me feel bad about them. I know I talk with a lisp. I know I don't speak grammatically correct. Okay, I'm cool with that. Once I took ownership of that, people couldn't make me feel bad about that.

And that's what you have to do. Take ownership of your insecurities. So when people say, oh, you, okay, big nose, you black, you know, I was dark. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Call me smug. Call me chimney.

Call me dirt. Call me all that crow. I'm cool with all that. They call you all that? Yeah. Shit. Mm-hmm. You good now, though? Huh? You good now though

huh I remember back in the day you had to be light skinned you had to be like El DeMar Chico DeMar I ain't no one want no dark skin man no them boys bruise too easy man

you hit them upside the head they bruise they turn red black and blue. Nah, man. You know, Michael Jordan came along in Wesley's night. Yeah. I've been popping since. Ever since? Mm-hmm.

I've been popping ever since. Everybody know from the side. You know exactly what I'm talking about. People in the chat, they know what I'm talking about. Everybody wanted the light-skinned guys with the light eyes. They had the wavy hair like Chico DeBarge El DeBarge them yeah

with a little oil sheen in it yeah yeah they wanted them guys they ain't want nobody on dark oh man no they ain't want me there

oh lord that's funny but now ever since Michael Jordan and Wesley Snipes I've been popping since the 80s mid 80s

I started popping ain't dropped off since ain't gonna never drop off oh nah nah Black Ian listen bro we been in since the 80s. Mid-80s, I started popping. Ain't dropped off since. Ain't gonna never drop off. Oh, no, no. Black in. Fine. Listen, boy,

we've been in for a minute. Yeah. We've been in for a minute. They didn't want no dark skin gotten. He's too dark. He's black. Okay. All right.

Listen, you know what they say now? The black of the juice is sweeter than the berry. Nah, I think it's the black of the berry that's sweeter than the juice, but I get where you're berry. Nah, I think it's the black of the berry that's sweet as the juice, but I get where you're going. Wait, I said it wrong?

Yeah. Baby! The black of the juice is sweet as the berry? The black of the berry is sweet as the juice. But how you know? You say she love her some black berries, honey. Yeah. Yeah, talk your shit now

But, you know, I'm playing Hold up, Ocho, you say the black and the berry is sweet as juice? She's about to get diabetes messing with me Because I'm black and the both over You know what I'm saying, Ocho? They get diabetes with O'Shea You better get on this old sugar train Yeah

Oh, yeah I'm real. I'm bad, please. They already know. I like that. Damn, man. Hey, well, we had some good-ass topics

tonight, bro. Well, we had some great topics tonight, Hocho. Hey, I like that goddamn Stephen A. goddamn Jason Whitlock topic. That shit was good, bro. Why you like that?

You like, you see, you like conflict. No, I don't, No, I don't like conflict because I'm not conflicting. I don't like problems. I don't like problems. I like to find a solution to them. But it's interesting

because I'm glad to see Stephen A outside of his form, outside of his norm. I got a solution to the problem. Someone always jabbing at you, jabbing at you, jabbing at you, jabbing at you, or taking shots at you jabbing at you, jabbing at you,

or taking shots at you. It's okay to defend yourself. It's okay to finally stand up. Because if you don't stand up to the bully, he's going to continue to bully you over and over and over. And that goes for anybody. In your workplace, at home,

might be a relationship, might be a friendship. Sometimes you have friends, you don't even know they're bullying you. Sometimes, at some point, you got to stand up for yourself. My is the way i look at ocho i'm a rocket ship i'm taking off and i ain't letting nobody hit the ride i like it that's the way i'm looking at ocho i i i choose who to pick up and give a ride to the destination that i'm going which is to the top. And I don't choose them.

Shit, I'm going to. Absolutely. Lady Ray said, I got a good one for you guys. What's the hardest thing for you to say? I need help. I love you or I'm sorry. It's easy. Say it again. Say, what is the hardest thing for you to say

i need help i love you or i'm sorry well shit well ain't none ain't none of them three hard for me to say obviously i say i love you every goddamn day i need help there may be one or two people I can go to when I do need help. I'm not in situations where I really need help that often, but when I do, especially when it's something that I don't know about and I'm not knowledgeable about, I have no problem saying I need help. And I'm sorry, but I've been apologizing since 1983. I've been apologizing since 1983 I've been apologizing since 1983 but many a mistake because if life came with an instruction booklet I wouldn't have

made no mistakes and it just don't it just don't work like that so I've been apologizing for a very long time no I'm sorry it's definitely the easiest right yeah because I've never been too big, too proud to say, no matter what, whether I was, you know, five, six years old,

whether I was this, or whether I was, you know, early in my career, or where I am now, I've just never, I've always been, if I'm wrong,

I'm wrong, and I'm mad enough to say I'm wrong. But I'm also mad enough to tell you when you wrong also. And that's the problem that people have. People, people don't mind,

say, oh, man, you need to say you wrong, but they don't want to hear they're wrong. So, that's the problem that people have. People don't mind saying, oh, man, you need to say you're wrong, but they don't want to hear they're wrong. So that's definitely the easiest. I need help. It depends on what it is.

The extent of help in what? The extent of help in actually what? Sometimes you might be running a little low on money. You might need money. I need help, relationship advice, marriage counseling, putting people in your business. No, you got to do that.

No, you can't have people in your business. Yeah, but when you say, I need help, sometimes you have to figure it out. You got to go to other people. Sometimes everybody else is always able to guide you and help you when they're not in your situation. Yeah. Because you

get to offer... See, for me, when I talk to guys about football stuff, a lot of the stuff I'm speaking from first-hand knowledge. Right. And I'm a very practical, very common sense type of a guy. And I just believe in right and wrong.

I believe there's a right way. The way you do some things is the way you do all things. And that's just the way I've always been. And, you know, if we had to do this, we're going to do this. I'm not going to let you do that. Once I became a leader, and I think that's the thing, that's why it was very easy for me to leave. Because guys knew I wasn't asking them what I wasn't willing to give them. Right.

And so I just think, like I said I'm sorry I need help I don't have a problem asking for that um I I've it all depends because I found myself because I I think early on in my career in my life I didn't tell my kids nearly enough I love and now I won't get off the phone without telling I love them I think it's easier for girls

but I noticed my son since he became a dad he always I love you dad since he became a father right so like I I love you, dad, since he became a father. Right. So, like, I love, you know, like, I remember the first time he said that, you know, after, you know, getting up some age, I'm like, okay. I love you too, bro. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't have a problem.

The hardest would probably be I need help. For you? Yeah. Shit, boy, you better than me, boy. I ain't got a boy. If I need help, I got two people. I got two people I can call and I need help. Now, God willing, I'm never in a situation where I need help.

But if any, in any unfortunate circumstance, I'm calling and I don't even care. Because all the phone calls I get when others need help throughout these years. Well, see, that's the thing. Most of the time people need help. They need money. That's easy for me.

I can help about easy. Oh, yeah. And I already know I ain't going to get it back. So I'm good. But I'm never going to give you more than I can help about easy oh yeah and I already know I ain't gonna get it back so I'm good but I'm never gonna give you more than more than I can stomach lose

right so you know you ask I'm not expecting it back right so that's a good goddamn question too that's a good one

right there yeah that's a good one great show as always fellas happy belated 56th birthday that's what Lanny Ray one great show as always fellas happy belated 56th birthday that's what Lanny Ray said great show as always fellas and happy belated 56th birthday

appreciate that you saw yeah you are sorry you sorry you know what Adele baby I said I was sorry oh I remember them days Adele, baby, I said I was sorry. Oh, I remember them days. Yeah, now you're going to make me take it back. I ain't sorry no more.

I was sorry about five minutes ago after you done talked. I ain't sorry no more. I should have stayed out later. I was never going to stay out type of guy. Ocho. Yeah. A 71 year old-old serial bank robber who spent over 40 years in federal prison has been arrested again for allegedly robbing another bank

and got away with $64,000 in cash. Bruce Edward Bell has four prior bank robber convictions and spent more than four decades in the Federal Department of Corrections for his crimes. He was released from prison in July of 2021. That's his home. That's what he knows.

Not only that, listen, you're a felon. You come out as a felon. What option do you have to do anything as far as work is concerned? Think about it. Who's hiring you after, if you've already wrote if you've already robbed three banks previously you've done 40 years in the feds yeah you come

home who's hiring you think about it well i ain't hired him no we got anything that got to do with money if there's any money on the premises he he ain't getting no job. So he can do construction. He can do sanitation. He can do subway. Ain't no money involved. Because all of a sudden, anytime he's around, money following him out the store or it follows him out the bank. I ain't saying he stole it, but somehow the money followed him out the bank. Listen, I'm not saying he's right.

Chad, stay with me. I'm not saying he's right. Chad, stay with me. I'm not saying he's right. But what option do you have if you're a three-time bank robber and you've already spent 40 years behind jail, you get out at 71, what are you doing at 71 years old and you're out of jail,

but go back and resort to what you already know how to do? How about this? Do what you did while you were in jail. You work for that man behind jail. They get your ass up in the wee hours of the morning, put your ass out there in them fields,

and you work. But you'll work with no freedom, but you won't work when you got freedom. So that's what you do. Yes. Do they make you work in jail if you're that old? At 71? Hell yeah.

If they put you to work? If they put your ass in jail at 71, they'll put your ass to work at 71. You talking about... Hey, buddy, buddy crazy, man. Buddy crazy. Buddy is crazy, man. Three times and you get out after 40-something years

of going back and forth? 40 years? Yeah. I mean, everybody that he knows, everything that he knows is tied to being incarcerated. I mean, you get structured. You get scheduled. But that's what I don't get. My grandma used to always tell me to say, you listen to me on the outside or you listen to somebody on the inside.

Inside, yeah. One or the other. So they don't want to listen. Oh, you're not going to tell me what to do. You ain't the boss of me. Go to that place. Go to juvie. Go to any place. State prison, state prison, federal prison, doesn't matter.

They tell you what to do and you gladly do it. You better. Your ass end up in the hole. They put your ass in solitary, sure will. It's a different world, man. That's what I'm saying. That's what I don't get.

That's a different world. I love, I mean, I mean, the pandemic didn't really bother me because I ain't a person that go anywhere anyway, so I was cool. It had no, I mean, honestly,

it had no impact on me whatsoever. None. And then guess what? I just got to roll up out of bed throw on some some aphelisia. And then it's like,

you know, you need to look like you're a professional. So I had to put on a shirt and tie, not a shirt and tie, but a college shirt and a jacket,

which is cool. But it had no impact on me. But Ocho, when you've done something for such a long time, how do you break that? You can't. It's impossible. It's impossible. It only takes 30 days

to create a habit. Well, hell, he's been in jail for 40 years. Yeah. It takes 30 days to create a habit and a lifetime to break it. Yeah. 40 years. He just like, hey, I need to get out of there.

That's a long time, bro. When he got out, he don't got no options. There's one thing I know. I got to go get some money. And there's only one way I know how to do it. I mean, but Ojo, he's 71. How fast was he running how fast did he get i don't know he had 40 years to come up with a plan to make sure he don't go

back like the last three times and it obviously didn't work he should have watched oceans 11. man look here i had a homeboy used to work, he used to work in the prison system. And the prisoners would say, look, he said, man, you work an eight-hour shift to keep me in here. I get 24 hours a day to think of a way to hurt you.

He said, I can do anything I want to anybody I want in here. And to y'all guards. So think about that. Will y'all work those three eight hour shifts or y'all work those two 12 hour shifts to try to find a way to get me to comply? I have 24 hours to think of ways

I don't want to comply and what I want to do to hurt y'all. I said, yeah, that ain't the place for me. Not only to work in there. But what he did tell me is he said, it's all about respect. He said, if you think because you are the correctional officer and they're in there. Mm-mm.

Mm-mm. Mm-mm. No, sir. No, sir. Respect is the currency in there right respect is everything that's that's that jungle mentality that's that street mentality respect oh you'll give it to me i'll take it one of the yellow one way or another so all right bro I'm still not here on my side. Okay, no joke. How y'all not mention Lamar with the most to prove?

He just got big bread. He's the league MVP with a one in three record. You're right. You're right. I agree that's number one. But Lamar, yeah, because he was unanimous MVP in 2019, lost in the first round to the Titans, had a monster day throwing the ball. I think he had over 500 yards of total offense,

but the turnovers kind of doomed him. And so you're absolutely right. You know what? You're right. Lamar and Dak might be 1A and 1B. Why you boo-jabbing? Yeah, but, Yonk, you know all the pressures on Dak, just because of the team he plays for,

just because he's a star on his helmet. Obviouslyar also has the pressure being a go ahead go ahead being a previous MVP I understand will come with that he's he's um he judged on a much different level because he's already won the award and probably going to win it again but even without Dak having that MVP under his belt, the pressure is a little bit more. It's a little bit more leaning towards Dak. I mean, what you just said about Lamar, it's different, man. It's different, man. If you're wearing that star on your helmet, And if you're wearing that star on your helmet, it's different. Ocho, two MVPs.

The number one scoring defense led the league in sacks, led the league in takeaways, and you got the MVP. So you got the best player on the best team with the number one defense. How many teams can say they've ever had that? You led the team in points allowed, takeaways, sacks with the MVP. Not many. He's up against it. You got to win.

Because think about it. There's only two guys in the playoff that have MVPs. He and Pat Mahomes. Well, Pat Mahomes has two and two Super Bowls. So he peachy. He gravy. Anything. Anything Patrick Mahomes gets after this is icing.

Icing on the cake. You're right. Lamar with the expectations. I think it's Lamar. All right. All right. The only ID said, Unclecho Would you give up Five Would you give up a Super Bowl

For five more prime years Of football And Ocho Would you give up five years Of your prime Ocho Would you give up five years Of your prime

For a Super Bowl Hell no I ain't giving up my Goddamn prime years But I can't eat that trophy And I can't eat that ring No Absolutely not Five more No I can't eat that trophy and I can't eat that ring. No.

Absolutely not. Fire mode? No. In today's game, not back then. Oh, today's game. Yeah, I want to be in there. I want to be hot on IG. I want to be hot That's what I would do

Yeah I want to get dressed up for the game And then I want to be dripped Yeah Listen I would go into games back then In dicky outfits in different colors Shoot I'm trying I'm going to get me a stylist Yeah Yeah. Listen, I would go into games back then in Dickie outfits and different colors.

Shoot, I'm trying. I'm going to get me a stylist. Yeah. Post on IG going to the game. You know, everybody pull up. They got their Cullinan. They got their Mercedes. The Maubachs and the Ferrari. I'm not Ferrari.

The Lambo trucks. What you going to pull up in? Now? Yeah. now yeah i'm trying to think that's a good question though joe i don't i listen i'm gonna get me a stylist i'm gonna get me uh one of them big them big man bags I don't know what they put in there yeah I'm go yard

I'm going to get one of them get me a big go yard get me a stylist and what else I'm going to probably grow my hair out cut me a fade

and have some waves so I can be here I changed my mind nope I don't want no more five years I don't want to be here no man I'd be like

man I'd be like Nick Cannon in the future. I have 20 kids. In today's game? In today's? You think so? Ocho, with the access that these guys have, you got access to some.

You in Dallas, Texas, you got access in Florida. You ain't step one foot in Florida. You remember now, when you and I played, you had to be in the location to see the woman. See the woman. Okay, I see you. I see you going with me. If you was in Atlanta, to see people in California, you had to literally be in the location to see the woman. See the woman. Okay, I see you. If you was in Atlanta,

to see people in California, you had to literally be in California. California. Right. Now... Yeah, it's different. You're right. No, I'm good. No, no, no. I don't want no more years. I don't want to play no more football. I want to sit my old ass down. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to

sit down. Right. Take my trophies. Take whatever accolades I have. I'm good. I'm going to leave it to the young boys. It's a young man's game. Young man. That it is. Ali Afashar says, Ocho, you're 90. Laurentian, New Jersey. Is it

good? GD Immaculate, bro. You should speak about footy more man there's a huge global audience waiting for you love it love from toronto i mean i i would love to do it i would love to to speak footy i mean at some point maybe we can squeeze it in with unc we could teach us to teach uh teach teach unc a few things about the beautiful game. That would be dope. That would be dope. Maybe I should do something separate. Maybe I should do something separate, strictly for, strictly soccer

related. Thank you for putting that little bug in me here. That's a good one. Nikki Grant said, damn it, Shanna. I hate that you could easily talk me out of my panties. The passion, the drive, the mindset. Stop playing and come get my number. Oh. Lord, have mercy.

Damn. I mean, do I speak with that much passion? Do I speak with that much ferocity and love and authenticity? Damn. She say, come, are you going to get the number or not? Come on, Ocho, man.

Ocho, I'm just, Ocho, I'm 55, man. I'm just, I'm just out here just trying to make an honest loss. Ocho? I understand you, but she told you, she asked you to come get a number. I want to know, are you going to get the number? No, Ocho, I'm not going to get the number.

No? Is that okay? Man, slide in his DM and send the number anyway. He'll hit you. He ain't fooling me. He just saying that because it's people watching. Nah, I mean, my DM, you can't DM it because it's blocked. It is?

I mean, you can DM it, but I don't. It's like if you're not like blue check mark or something, for some reason, they don't come through. And I don't go searching for them. Well, you could buy a checkmark and then send them a DM. I need a solid. I'm trying to shake the sheets. I told the girl, we family.

Shout me out so I can clip it. Send it to her. My name is John. Her name is Mary. Hey, hey, hey, John. Man, hey, check this out. Hey, Mary, go on and do John the Solid, man. I mean, he good people.

Yeah. Good people. He good people, man. I've been knowing John for about, shee, about three, four minutes. Yeah. Yeah, John, make sure you got the whipped cream, boy. Grab the whipped cream, John.

Nah, don't do that, John. Don't do that. Don't listen to Ocho. Listen, first time, you got to have a lasting impression. Grab the whipped cream and don't forget the toes. Hey, going to get one of them old diamonds in your system. All them diamonds on me. She'll mess with you now.

Going to get them diamonds on you. Hey, hold the old blade. You got to get that diamond on you. Going to put that diamond in your system. About 30, 45 minutes. Don't eat nothing. Because you want that thing. You want all of it. You want the whole 100 milligrams in your system.

Hey, it's like, I don't know if you cooked the turkey before. Put that diamond on you, boy. You got to light the turkey. Put it in the oven, 350. Get it ready. Y'all know what I'm talking about. That thing harder than prom wood you know you went to the problem you might get that yeah man oh joe i'm telling you man i'm telling you oh joe put that prom wood on hey john hey

hey man i don't know hey john i'm telling you listen to me now don't be afraid of the Ocho you put what that diamond in your system yeah 30 45 minutes I mean hey every time don't you don't want to waste it

so you get a good sense of how the night is going cause you know I mean you know hey let me tell you Ocho let me tell you I had a thing in my pocket right here

every right here you know we we talking. Hey, girl, you need to get a little kiss. Oh, this thing might. I don't want that thing in there. It's over, Ocho. It's over. It's over, Ocho.

I don't know how to. I don't know how to. Hold on. That thing in there. Hold on. Hey, sneak it, sneak it in, put it in. That thing in there. I had a thing.

You know, that little pocket. That little G pocket. You know, you got that little pocket. Right, right, right. You know that little pocket, that little G pocket. You got that little pocket. I had that thing sitting up in there. Yeah, how you put it in? I said, hey girl, how you doing? You know. That's what I think about that.

I look away that bag on you. Man. Man. She about to get the arm. She about to get the hey you know that baking soda that arm and hammer you about to get the hammer old black hammer man that don't about old black hammer hell no

hell no that's a good one boy that black that boy you ever heard of that that rhino pill from the gas station yeah I heard about it I ain't tried about you to try that on well listen now because you know rhinoceros

you know that's why they cut the horn because it's been they said the rhinoceros can have sex up to five hours yeah so the Asian they said the rhinoceros can have sex up to five hours yeah so the asian they they take the horn they blend it and man i don't know who want to have man look here i know me i don't know if there's i don't think there's a woman out there that want to have sex for no five hours listen she might not want to but she done been through it huh ain't nobody take that kind of pounding ain't nobody take that kind of pounding no five hours, Ocho.

Who? Five hours? Man, listen. Listen, two-minute intervals. No, no. The rhinos, I'm talking about, here's the thing. Oh, you're talking about the rhino. Oh, I'm talking about me.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, yeah. Five hours, two-minute intervals at 99 miles an hour. Pressure. God dang, Jack Rabbit. Yeah, I don't play. I don't play. I ain't got no time.

I ain't got no time. I ain't got no time to play. About three hours at 99 miles an hour. Two minute intervals. Had the time of life. Baby. Ain't nothing but that spade.

Baby. Ojo. You remember that? Yeah, yeah. She know. She remember. I got that spade. Hey, Ojo you remember that yeah yeah she know she remember I got that hey Ojo

I got a I got spade wood I got two in a possible in a 24 hour span that's all I got for you two in a possible two in a possible two in a possible

don't hold me to that don't hold me to that cause it might get cut after the first one I might get cut Ojo and I'm done that's all I'm saying Ocho that's all I'm saying I mean and they be talking about

Ocho I mean come on they be talking about oh oh that's let me ask you a question Ocho if you put a hot dog In the microwave For two minutes

What's gonna happen to it? It's gonna explode ain't it? Okay That's what I did I was in there for two minutes The hot dog exploded Boom there it is That's what I did Ocho

I mean come on That's what you want from me You mad at me? You I'm faking you you got that I mean come on now I mean they mad at me

hey come on come on now work with me I'll never tell you wrong when you right. Listen, you got to redeem yourself. You can't go out like that. Listen, you can't go out like that because you're going to end up in the group chat.

You don't want to end up in the group chat. You want everything said about you to be positive. They ain't going to tell nobody. They ain't going to tell nobody in the group chat about Black Hammer. They want to keep that on the ramp for themselves. I bet that. I bet that. I bet that.

Alright. Okay, I'm just making a show. Listen, I don't want you with no bad reviews like Yelp. I don't want you with no bad reviews. You ain't even talk about my goddamn co-hosts like that. Hey,

my stars, not only are they logos, they're ratings. You know, the guy... You know what I'm saying, Ocho? You better stop playing with O'Shea. Mm-hmm. Shit. But I mean, that should be...

Ocho, you should be happy. We are. A man trampolining you for 45 minutes... Oh, something wrong with you. Something wrong with you. Yeah, that ain't it. Something wrong with you. Man, come on now. Now, something wrong with you. Something wrong with you. Yeah, that ain't it. Something wrong with you.

Man, come on now. Now, I can understand that. As long as you go in multiple rounds, obviously, you know, it's going to take a little longer, but I'm saying. Something wrong with you. Excited.

I ain't going to lie. I'm excited. I'm, hey. Something wrong. 45 minutes? Man, look here. Who the hell, unless you clocking out

at 5 o'clock and you work for Bane Brothers what you doing what you trying to prove you know I turn I turn to the side

like this you already know where I go if you ever see hey I'm sitting on the couch and I turn to the side like this

once I turn back around at that point in time yeah ain't no turning back now but I mean that's but Ocho a woman should

if a man if a man look I mean sometimes you get excited you have premature you know what right right right if you got that

if you got that if you got that Sega yeah that's what's supposed to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Most of the time I do. That's why, that's why you got to, you got to double back. You got to double back. They give you five minutes. Give you five minutes to recover. Ocho, I promise you, with that diamond on me.

Yeah. Nothing. That's that real. That bad look here, Ocho. What? That made it real. That made it real. I'm talking about, hey.

I'm talking about car bubble hard. You know, the old car, that old dad, that steel. Back in the day, I ain't talking about that rubber bubble. Yeah, I got it. You know what? Baby, I need to get one of them blue diamonds. Man, look here, man. You ain't real.

Don't let him do you like that real. Nah, I'm going to try that. I'm going to try that. I mean, I got to. I got to know so I could be able to talk about it with you. So I'm listening to you and your experiences. I want to know what that's like. I can't be left out.

I got to know. I'm going to figure it out, though. Where I get it from? CVS or Walgreens? You can have your doctor write you a script. Oh, I need a prescription. Yeah. Okay, I got something I can get.

Hey, man, they hot now. They about $800 for you. Who? They about $800 for you. No, I'm good. I'm good. That's all you had to tell me I'm good

Ocho, Ocho Hey They pass ID when you put that diamond on them They pass ID right here, Ocho You get out and grab it I got to grab an Oscar out of Tony That's what they pass out when you put that diamond on them I ain't lying to you, Ocho

I don't want to go out there and get you that right now They giving out trophies? What? I'm going to get me one because I ain't never won shit I'm going to get me something Man I'm going to get me something And in this corner

Black Diamond Let me ask you a question In MMA, five minutes Title fights Yeah Five rounds. Three minutes. Three minutes.

Hey, Ocho, I ain't going to lie to you. I'll schedule it for 12. Probably going to make it out to third. Probably going to make it out to third. Somebody getting KO'd, Ocho. Somebody getting KO'd. Somebody getting KO'd, Ocho.

Tell it like it is I'm coming to hot Everybody bad Oncho Hey Hell nah Bad please Hell nah

Hey After they play out of the trophy Hey You get one of those Oncho You straight Hey hold on We'll be back on We'll be back on Saturday after the playoffs, right?

Yeah. We're out tomorrow, right? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. You and I are back on Saturday. Yeah. On Saturday. You know what? Saturday, I'm going to get that blue diamond.

Saturday, I'm going to tell you how it went once we finish talking about the game. Okay. Yeah, I got you. Hey. Oh, you didn't think I was going to do that blue diamond. Saturday, I'm going to tell you how it went once we finish talking about the game. Okay. Yeah, I got you. Hey. Oh, you didn't think I was going to bet? I couldn't. Hey, I was like a drug. I couldn't fuck you without it.

Right. I was afraid. See, I don't want to get addicted now. I just want to be able to. No, she's going to get addicted. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We're going to work on that.

I'll try to blow. Yeah, we're going to work on that. I'll try to build. Yeah, we're going to work on it. You know, I'm a heavyweight. I lay heavy. I ain't going to lie to you, Ocho. I lay heavy. Good luck, John. Mary, you in trouble.

Now, if you'd have donated $50, I'd say Big Daddy is mine. Chocolate teddy bear. Ocho, I DM you my number. Hook me up with Shannon. Two minutes is good. See, that's what I'm talking about right there. Don't judge me. Don't judge me.

Let me ask you a question, Ocho. You go to Six Flags. You go to Universal Studio. How long the rides last? Two minutes. Give you the thrill of your life. I'm with you when you're right. Now you're making sense. You hear me?

Now you're making sense. Now you're making sense. So, I ain't got no reason to be in there all goddamn day. No. You just gave me an analogy I could use. Yes. I like that.

Yes. Matter of fact, you know what? I ain't even got no pen, but I'm going to put that in my notes in my phone. Let me put that in my notes. The next time she talk trash about me,

oh, that was three minutes. What you expect me to do? Well, hello? You ever seen a boxing match? I seen people get knocked out in the first round. In one round, only three minutes.

I got it. Baby, I ain't going to lie to you. I got it scheduled for 30. You don't fight 36 minutes, 12, three minute rounds. I got it scheduled for the. You don't fight 36-minute, 12, three-minute rounds. I got a schedule for the whole 12. Now, it might go to the cards. It might go to the judges' cards.

Right. But, baby, based on my history, somebody getting knocked out. By the third? By eight. That's all I got for you. I'm sorry, baby you I'm sorry baby I'm sorry bro Antonio Robertson

Uncle 84 the man above says we need to find a woman with a meek quiet spirit you gotta leave these superficial loud chicks alone she out there

I know I mean I can get to the quiet but the yellow ones be the ones be yelling so loud I mean by the I do. But that's...

Look. I just over here chewing the fat with y'all. I used to be like that. I ain't like that no more. Right. I ain't like that no less either. Man, I'm just...

Look at the ass over here laughing. Nah, man, look here. I know it's right out there is that that for you now is that that for you sometimes sometimes you got to find it sometimes you got to let it find you okay but long as you know it's out there as long as you know i'm on them diamonds you're like you know sometimes you go into a relationship, baby, I smoke a little weed. Okay, you know, I like to go with the boys. I drink a little bit.

Right. Okay, baby, just so you know. Okay. We cool, you cool with that? Hey, wait one round, fight. I mean, no, I got a schedule fight I got a schedule I got a schedule to go the distance

to 12 or to the I train I did my cardio I got my lifting in I've been eating healthy I got a schedule to go to full 12 there's a 90% chance it's not going to go past three. And you can judge

all you want to. And you know. So. I like it. I wish I could tell him something different. Uncle, I've heard you say that you should date someone who likes you more than you like them.

Is there a story behind that? Yes. For me, at the end of the day, I want somebody that really loves love themselves, got to love themselves. And. Because I can't be a hype man. I can't tell you every day, 50 times a day, how fine you are, how great you look, how sexy you are, how fortunate I am to have you. At some point in time, you're going to have to have that within yourself to know you're attractive, to know you're smart, to know you're funny, and to know all the things that you want reassurances for, but you need to know that even if I don't tell you that on a given day, you know it. God damn. So I think the thing is, if a woman,

because here's the thing, normally the women that you like, don't like you as much as the women that like you. don't like you as much as the women that like you. Yeah. Normally, that's 99% of the time. That's it. So, that's my story behind that.

I'm sure somebody else have a different story, but that's mine. Uncle Nocho, big fan of y'all. Got a date coming up. Every time I go out with a girl, we have fun, but I fail mine. Uncle Nocho, big fan of y'all. Got a date coming up. Every time I go out with a girl, we have fun, but I fail to take her home. Any advice?

I mean, damn, that's what you're trying to do? I mean, I see, I mean, they used to be like, you date,

I mean, I guess today's, everybody hears this story about trying to get, you know, trying to, you know, hit the ball at the park

on the first night. Yeah. I guess if it happens, it happens. happened if it doesn't i don't lose no sleep i but i don't go in with the attention me honestly i don't go with the intentions of that who i don't shit nah ain't got no time my antenna my antenna too far my antenna, my antenna too far. My antenna up. I just can't, nah. No means no. Maybe means no. Yes means no tomorrow. Nah, I got to get to know you. Because the last thing,

nah, I can't even put myself in that situation, don't you? So. Boy, that went in there. Man, I ain't got time, baby. Two was Adam. Okay, straight to dinner got time to play with two. What's happening? Okay. Straight to dinner. Straight to the room.

You ain't with that band? God dang. Real? You mother did it. Yeah, but see, you do it all that. See, you a full service lover. Toes, elbows, and all in between. Everything. Yeah, I mean, so she ain't never been detailed like that. Yeah. Okay.

When you go get your when you go your your bmw ev when you take it to the car wash you want a detail don't you yeah okay but i mean that's exactly what she got oh she got deep detail but everybody i mean the 19 the 19 the 1984 pinto you know it's not ainto, but you know what I'm saying, it don't get the same service. So, I mean, you got to save some of that, Ocho. Save it for who? Save it for what?

Everybody shouldn't be able to get the Baby D. You can't put that on everybody, Ocho. We ain't talking about that already. I ain't been with everybody. But I'm just saying. I'm speaking on one specific... But I'm saying, you can't speaking on one specific But I'm saying you can't do that from the door. I mean, you coming

in from the jump. Yeah, you got to come in from the jump. What you waiting for? What you waiting for? You're wasting time. You're wasting time. Boy, life is short, man. Life is short. Tomorrow ain't even guaranteed.

Tomorrow ain't guaranteed you might as well if it's right there look here hi Ocho hi Shanna, hola Ocho, this is Faith my birthday wish for you is that you get a shot to appear on first take, we're proud of your growth

and pray you keep growing, remember God doesn't call the qualified he qualifies the call. Let him use you, Shanna. Hashtag 85 love. No, Ocho said he didn't want to be on First Take no more, so. Listen, I'm

going to be on there anyway. Y'all ain't going to have no choice but to bring me on because what's going to happen is at some point, I'm going to get fed up. And I know the people at ESPN. I know how to get in the doors. They're going to let me in the doors. I will have on a suit and I will just come plop myself up in a seat and sit down there and talk football with y'all or whatever season we in.

And listen, I don't even want to come on there all the time. I just want to come on there once. You just told me the other day. Y'all remember when Ocho said he didn't want to come on there all the time. I just want to come on there once. You just told me the other day. Y'all remember when Ocho said he didn't want to come on first take? I said that? Yep. You said you didn't want to change. Why are you all in our business?

Yeah, tell it real. She said that real, though. She wasn't even here. She was here. She wasn't here? Yeah, she was here. Oh, she said she was watching live. So, you know, sometimes I say things I don't mean.

Just one time. One time ain't going to hurt. But let me tell you what the ratings are going to look like that day, though. Hey, make sure you hit that subscribe button. Make sure you hit the like button. Guys, we're doing an unbelievable job. that subscribe button. Make sure you hit the like button. Guys, we're doing an unbelievable job.

The episode with Cat Williams is now at 42 million. My goal is I want to be one of the first two, one of the few guys to have a 50 million viewed video. Guys, thank you for liking it. Thank you for sharing it. Hey, do your boy a favor. Go

watch it again. I'm sure there's some things that you missed. I really want that record. I want to pass Joe Rogan. I think I could get to 50. I really do. And that would be a huge honor. Hell, I didn't think I'd get to 20.

I didn't think I'd get to 30. Damn sure I didn't think I'd get to 40. But 50, you start getting 50 million, you know, they're going to have to come see your boy because your boy got some good interviewer skill. Howard Stern was talking about his boy, talked about you today. They was talking about on MSNBC, said Joe Biden should go sit down with Shannon Sharp

on Club Shaysha. Why did I get a good one? Joe Biden is not as exciting and controversial as that damn cat. Think about it. That's the sitting it. Ocho, think about it. That's the sitting president. That's President Joe Biden

sitting down. Come on now. Yeah. Just make sure he don't trip over nothing. No, I got it. I got it. I got it.

I got it. That'll be a good one. Young Willie Will, what's up, Shadow Nocho? Can you give me a birthday shout-out even though my birthday was yesterday tonight? Goddamn damn willie you should have called in yesterday then uh young willie happy birthday happy belated birthday happy birthday yeah young willie hey keep up the great work man dr frankie l bellamy hey uncle no show love the show aren't you

do you and rail work out together if yes what's her routine she looks amazing uh yeah we work out together matter of fact we work out together in the morning uh eight o'clock she has a different routine than i do she has a personal trainer that's working on some of the things that she wants to perfect and and work on as far as me i just i free flow i free flow for myself based on what i want to look like and what I feel like working on that day. Now, obviously, two days I do legs, two days I do arms.

No. Yeah, two days I do arms, one day I do chest, and weekends I take off. Yeah. They working out, all right. I'm working out too. I work out,

you working out in the back and I'm working out behind. You know what I'm saying, don't you? Yeah, I feel you. One day you'll look like this, huh? But we the same size, man. Ocho, look at that right there, Ocho. We the same

size. I'm 55, I had to walk 56, Lord spare my life, and the sun don't and the river don't rise. We the same size, if you think about it. That's what I hold them. See, Ocho, you see how that thing peak like that? That's what I'm holding them on think about it. That's what I hold them. See, Ocho, you see how that thing peak like that? That's what I'm holding them on 180 and up. That's what you get when you hold them 180 and up.

Alright. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Yeah, wait till you see what I look like in March. Man, I don't want to get too fine, Ocho. I don't want to get too fine. You know what I'm saying? Michael McClaren said, Broncos fan, 1990, 1990 30 years old please uh write a book bless you every quote your beautiful grandmother parents gave you through uh uh gives us through you man i thought

about it i mean i've had a lot of opportunities a lot of people have reached out and said they i should write a book uh my sister ain't gonna let that happen. So right now she's the, she handles everything. She's the matriarch. And so whatever she say, go out, listen to her. She's been, she's been my angel,

my guardian angel. She's always been there. As a matter of fact, she just left the, as a matter of fact, she just left this morning. What the hell is she talking about? She left this morning.

She was, she was out here. So, no to the book, no to left this morning. What the hell is she talking about? She left this morning. She was out here. So, no to the book. No to the book. No to the book. No to the book. No to the book. You don't say no to your mind.

You don't. It's all about timing. It's all about timing. That's it. All these diamonds on me. I ain't got no diamonds on me. I it. All these diamonds on me. I ain't got no diamonds on me. I ain't got no diamonds on me. Where are we now?

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three, four years and we tracking them down. Right. Oh yeah, yeah, we coming. We tracking them down, Ocho. Are we coming? We tracking them down, Ocho. Are we coming? We tracking them down, Ocho. Hey, it's like when you had to track me and somebody they coming to get you and the crowd be like, ooh, ooh,

ooh. Yeah, we coming now. Ain't nothing you can do about it. See, the thing is a lot of times, Ocho, people like to sneak up on you. Nah, we told you we coming. We came in banging on cans, on anything to let you know we're here. Oh, yeah.

That's how confident we was in our material. That's how confident we are in our content. That's how confident we are in our own ability. It's not what you do. It's what we do. We do, yeah. And no disrespect to nobody else. No, we don't got to disrespect anybody. We just got to do what we do. We do, yeah. And no disrespect to nobody else. No, we don't got to disrespect anybody. We just got to do what we do.

And we'll let the viewing and listening audience decide. That's all we do. Yeah. Let's spin around the horn. Coach Saban retires. Pete Carroll is out as Seattle head coach.

Mike Vrabel is out as the Tennessee Titans head coach NFL releases their second all-pro team you can have that, we're going to have that up in the link Jared Goff said there's a chip that chip will never leave him for what the Rams did with the trade hold on

what else we got Stephen A Stephen A you my dog okay you got that off your chest, let it go now What else we got? Stephen A. Stephen A. You my dog. Okay, you got that off your chest. Let it go now. Put it to bed.

Put it to bed. Let it go. Let it go. Oh, my baby watching Nightcap. Mocha, I love you, baby. My daughter watching Nightcap. Hi, Mocha. Hey, Mocha.

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I apologize. You're going to hear me in the stands. Pat McAfee announced today that Aaron Rodgers will not be done as a guest for the NFL season. Eric Spoelstra got a $120 million contract extension and a 71-year-old bank robber. Make sure y'all get y'all questions in. Thank you, Mods, for all your hard work in keeping the chat clean and open. We really appreciate that. Again, make sure you hit that like button.

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