Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Raiders Destroy Chargers, Travis Kelce Calls Out Critics, Belichick Rumors

Episode Date: December 15, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Las Vegas Raiders blowing out the Los Angeles Chargers, Travis Kelce calling out critics of the Kansas City Chiefs, rumors swirling that the Ne...w England Patriots and Bill Belichick could part ways, the NBA suspending Draymond Green indefinitely, and much more!   06:20 - Chargers Blowout Raiders 07:00 - Will Brandon Staley Be Fired In The Morning? 16:20 - Worst Blowout Losses Of Their Careers 29:30 - Chiefs WR Issues 35:30 - Tua Lost MVP Votes Without Tyreek 43:00 - Kareem Jackson Meets With Goodell 46:45 - Banning The Hip Drop Tackle 50:00 - Ocho’s “Home Remedy” For Injuries 01:03:00 - Strip Club Stories 01:14:40 - Draymond Green Suspended Indefinitely 01:50:30 - Mount Rushmore Teammates #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:10 hello ladies and gentlemen thank you for joining us uh welcome to another episode of nightcap i'm your favorite sports ump shannon sharp he's your favorite number 85 cincinnati bingo legend ringer famer chad ochocinco john hall of famer please make cincinnati big hall of famer chad ochocinco johnson please make sure. Cincinnati being a Hall of Famer. Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. Please make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. Thank you so much for helping us hit 451,000 subscribers. We could not have become the podcast that we've become without you.
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Starting point is 00:06:13 hopefully we can continue to grow uh and with your help and with your guidance guidance we'll make sure we continue to bring you the best product that we possibly can. Let's jump into the ballgame, Ocho. The Raiders blast the Chargers. Ballgame? 63-21. Call that a ballgame? Okay. A beatdown. The Raiders beat the Chargers 63-21.
Starting point is 00:06:35 That was a score-a-gami, which means the very uniqueness of the score. It's never happened before in NFL history. It's the 1,083rd time that a unique score had happened in NFL history. The Raiders went up 42-0 at the half. Eight different players scored at least a touchdown for the Raiders
Starting point is 00:06:52 per Amazon broadcast. The Raiders are the first team since 1950 Rams to have eight different players score a touchdown in a game. The question that I have for you, does Brandon Staley have a job when he opens his eyes tomorrow morning?
Starting point is 00:07:06 I mean, listen, I think it's a 40 minute flight back to LA. I think it's a 40 minute. I'm not sure he gets on that flight. I'm not sure if he makes it on that flight. I have a question for you, even though you asked me and my grandma always told me,
Starting point is 00:07:22 never ask a question with a question. But how come Brandon staley's leash to be able to coach for this long and be that bad was so long why was his lease it seemed like race so much longer than others that have coached the chargers i'm just oh yeah and you're going back to my former teammate anthony lynn because he definitely wasn't he definitely wasn't. He definitely wasn't given the kind of leeway in the latitude that Brandon Staley has. I think the thing is, is that in that situation, I think they kind of wanted to wait. They didn't want to make a change so abruptly. They wanted to give him some time.
Starting point is 00:07:59 But given the situation with that talent of a roster and no one can tell me that the Chiefs don't have talent on both sides of the football, something is amiss. When you have that level of quarterback, when you have Keenan Allen, when you have Eckler, when you have the offensive weapons that you have, you have a Bosa, you have a Khalil Mack, you have a Sante Samuel Jr. You have some guys. That's a very talented roster. junior you have some guys that's a very talented james i believe this ross derwin james i believe i believe this team has underachieved and this after this pathetic showing and i i don't you know what ocho when you played the game as long as you about as long as you and i have i hate to use the term quit but i didn't see a whole lot of effort going on tonight. I'm not going to say they quit, but I didn't see the effort. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:08:48 And you know what was funny to me? How many times have you been on a team that scored 60 points in a game period? Forget the NFL. In a game period. I think that the highest scoring game I've been a part of was, we played Cleveland Browns.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I think it was maybe the score was 51 to 45 something but it wasn't that the teams didn't quit it just so happened that the defenses that day weren't good and the offenses were on fire but today right the output in which we saw from the charges offensively listen at the end and what do you call it like when uh in trash time what's the what's the correct word when you score at the end of the game? Garbage time. Garbage time. Those touchdowns in garbage goddamn time really means nothing, man. It wasn't a good showing from either side of the ball.
Starting point is 00:09:33 It's unfortunate that Justin Herbert was out. Keenan Allen was out. But those aren't excuses. You know what? Next man up. And you're playing for, if you're not playing for the Chargers, you're playing for the name on the back of your goddamn jersey. You're playing for the name on the back for the charges you're playing for the name on the back of your goddamn jersey you're playing for the name no you're playing because oh joe you do realize
Starting point is 00:09:48 that this game tape is going to all 31 other teams excuse me 30 other teams so you auditioning you always have to understand you're auditioning for another team and so this see these are the type of games that get coaches fired and gets players cut because that eye in the sky people don't look now you tell me this guy's playing hard because it's easy it's easy ocho when you're up to play hard it's easy when it's a nip tuck ball game to play hard but let me ask you this when there's no possibility where there's no chance of you winning are you still busting your ass? Are you still giving me that effort?
Starting point is 00:10:28 Because I need to know. Because like, see, the eye in the sky don't lie. It doesn't know if you're black or white. It doesn't know how much money you make. All it does is take, it's recording what it sees. And I don't see the effort.
Starting point is 00:10:39 See, I didn't see the effort when it was a 35-34 ball game a couple of weeks ago. I didn't see the effort when we were up by 14 and we were getting after it on both sides of the ball i i didn't see that effort and that's the one thing because see i can't control the score the one thing each individual can control is his effort right you're right that's on you right listen goddamn aiden o'Connell, man, 20 for 34, 248, full TD. Devontae Adams finally back on track.
Starting point is 00:11:06 To me, still, despite the season not being accustomed to what we're used to seeing from what I consider the best receiver in the game, 8 for 101 in the TD. Dog, what happened last week when the Raiders played the Vikings? They scored zero points. Where was this offense? The NFL is so funny to me and the fact that I played in it and don't understand
Starting point is 00:11:31 how you can go from one week having a donut to coming the following week and putting up 60-something points. I don't understand. I don't understand. No, that's what... I think that's one of the things
Starting point is 00:11:43 what makes people love the NFL so much because you don't know what you're going to get. Yeah, yeah. Because one one. I mean, because realistically, my team has a chance to win and it because it's one game. Oh, Joe, you see in a series, the likelihood of somebody beating somebody four times or i'm kicking a game winning field goal two out of the four times that we win the series or i'm i'm getting a big oh i'm getting a game winning touchdown or a walk-off a punt return or a field goal but in the in in in a
Starting point is 00:12:16 situation where it's one game and anything can happen you know in a situation the team that's supposed to win the further and further you get into the game and they haven't separated from the team that's supposed to lose or the underdog now all of a sudden you start to lose a little confidence and start to tighten up they start to gain a little confidence and start to open up and before you get to the fourth quarter and all of a sudden you look at like oh yeah they right down with you oh yeah exactly and quarter and all of a sudden you look at like, oh, damn. They right down with you. Uh-oh. Exactly. And so now all of a sudden, I remember in college,
Starting point is 00:12:50 we were playing this team called Fayetteville. We were playing Fayetteville State. And my coach said going into the game, he said, guys, these guys don't have a lot to play for. He said, but now we're messing around to let this game stay close. They're going to mess around and start turning cartwheels in the fourth quarter. Ocho, I'll be damned. They go up and score a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:13:06 They go up. I think they went up. They went up like 17, 14. I'll be damned. The dude didn't get a touchdown to turn a cartwheel. Turned a back wheel. Coach Davis, the defense come to the sideline. He said, I told you.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I told you. And so, yeah, I just don't know. I mean, you in Vegas, Ocho, you know what? You said it's a 40-minute flight. He might as well just go ahead and stay there, hang out, get him a cup. I mean, all those casinos, get his gamble on. Wait, wait, wait. Matter of fact, how many weeks you got left for the season?
Starting point is 00:13:39 Okay, we got four weeks left. I'm assuming maybe I'm not sure who the Chargers owner is. You think they'll just let him ride out the rest of the season? I think Dean's family. It don't make no sense to find nobody with four weeks left. You might as well let him get out
Starting point is 00:13:50 to the school year. It's like, what's the point of suspending a kid and you only got four days of school left? It don't make no sense. Well,
Starting point is 00:13:59 let him go ahead and get a head start on a job, the summer jobs. Let him go ahead because you know you can't talk to the team if you're employing. So let him go ahead and get a head start on the job, the summer jobs. Let him go ahead because you know you can't talk to the team if you're employing. So let him go ahead and get a head start on coaching vacancies. But what's the sense in keeping him when you know the team isn't playing
Starting point is 00:14:16 or playing hard enough for him? Yeah, they're not responding. They're not responding as they should. Right. Okay, I see what you mean. Ocho, what was your biggest blowout loss in your career? High school, college,. Okay, I see. I see what you mean. Ocho, what was your biggest blowout loss in your career? High school, college, pro?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Let me see. Oh, that's a good one. As a matter of fact, let me take my glasses off on that because that'll get my brain working right. Brain working right.
Starting point is 00:14:38 It's like when you got to turn the radio down when you back into a spot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to think. You're thinking about something you turn the radio down like that day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to think. Yeah, you're thinking about something. You turn the radio down like that day.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Biggest blowout loss. God damn. I know it probably had to be during my bangle days, but I just can't remember. It had to be early on in my career. If anybody in the chat, they got some stats that could go back to a blowout
Starting point is 00:15:03 that I know I've had. I just can't recall right now. I'm sure somebody bring it up. It might not have been a 50-0 or a 50-10 game, but I'm saying that somebody beat you. It might be something like that, man. You got to think those early 2000 Bengals.
Starting point is 00:15:18 We was... Hey, boy, it was rough, boy. It was rough. Yeah, 2000, 2010s, 1990s, 1980s 1980s 1970s that's unnecessary that's unnecessary pastor don't do that wait what's your what's your what about you uh my biggest win um my junior year we beat more house 70 to 13 13 yeah that was the first that was the first time my mom had seen me play in college so i went to coach davis rest his soul my offensive coordinator name was daryl
Starting point is 00:15:53 mcneil but we called him brick he's passed us also and i told coach davis say coach davis this the first time my mom seen me play i said coach i don't need no bull jive he said i don't talk to brick i said nah i said brick didn't come down to recruit me and said if i had anything going on i could talk to you so my mom is coming i need to show out five catches a buck 25 and three and i said come on i i think that i think my biggest loss probably was 1992. I think we lost to the Philadelphia Eagles. I think we lost 37-0. And I think we might have had 40 yards of total offense. 40?
Starting point is 00:16:32 Oh, wait. I can tell you the defense right now. Reggie White. Reggie. Troy Vincent. Troy Vincent. No, I don't think Troy. You know, Troy went to Miami first before he went to Philly.
Starting point is 00:16:44 He got drafted by miami yeah well all i remember is troy vincent and um who was on the other side the tall corner on the other side of troy um bobby taylor bobby taylor yeah back then they had eric allen ea see ea had the most had the most returns for a touchdown before Deron Bland. He had four in 93. It was Clyde Simmons. It was Reggie White. They had Byron Evans. They had Seth Joyner. They had Muddy Waters.
Starting point is 00:17:16 That was the year that they dedicated to Jerome Brown. Boogie arrested, so he had gotten killed in a car accident earlier that year. so they dedicated that season to him randall cunningham they had uh fred barton fryer uh no i think i think uh a rev was there i can't remember the receivers he might have he might have been because you know he he might have been um nah he might have been in my he might have been in Miami.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Because, you know, he got drafted by the Patriots, number one overall in 1984. He went to the Patriots. Hold on. I traded him. Hold on. Hold on. I traded him. Look at that helmet.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Hold on. That helmet over there. As a matter of fact, i traded helmets with him at the pro bowl so it might he might have been he might have been there he might have been because uh i traded helmets with him uh one year he might have been but i know he ended up playing with okay can you see that hey listen hey uh man man, that makes me feel bad, man. Because I didn't... Dude, I don't have no memorabilia, man.
Starting point is 00:18:29 I don't have no memorabilia. I got three jerseys. I got a Bengal jersey framed up. I got a patron jersey framed up. And I got a dolphin jersey framed up. And, Luke, I don't got nothing. Like, when I tell you nothing, like I have nothing to show my kids. i don't got nothing like when i tell you when i tell you nothing like i have nothing to show my kids i ain't got it's like once i stop playing the game i just erase like football
Starting point is 00:18:52 just out my past man like no that was the thing i saw my brother and i didn't know this was a tradition because he went to the first his first pro bowl because he led the league in receiving um receiving and uh and and yards and i think uh he went to the pro bowl Bowl because he led the league in receiving and yards. And I think he went to the Pro Bowl, and then he came back. I think he had Pat's Willings. He got, like, two helmets. And I didn't know that was a tradition. So he said, yeah, you go to the Pro Bowl.
Starting point is 00:19:16 What you do, you exchange. You know, you fight. You exchange helmets. And so I was like, man, that's going to be cool. I can't wait to make the Pro Bowl. And so what you try to do, I mean, obviously me and Ben Coles, I traded with Ken Dilger. I traded with Wesley Walls, normally tight ends.
Starting point is 00:19:32 So I got a Carolina. I got a Patriots. I got a Coles helmet. I traded with J.O. Jonathan Ogden. So I got the original Raven. I traded with Derek Thomas. D.T. Rest in peace.
Starting point is 00:19:43 D.T. I traded with Hardy Nicholson, the old cream sickle, the old tablet. Yeah. I traded with who else? Oh, Chad Brown,
Starting point is 00:19:53 Seahawks. Yeah. So, and I got somebody else's helmet too. I forget. I got a bunch. I went, I made it eight times on show,
Starting point is 00:20:03 but a couple of times I didn't go because what I would look and I hate saying this and people are like, I got a bunch. I went, I made it eight times on show, but a couple of times I didn't go. Cause what I would look, and I hate saying this and people like, man, but if I found out somebody behind me and they had never gone, I pull up. I pull up. You're a real one,
Starting point is 00:20:17 boy. You see, that's the type of shit people don't know about, man. See, that's why I fucking love you. That's, that's,
Starting point is 00:20:22 that's some good shit right there, man. That's, you know, you know, you know, it's why I fucking love you. That's some good shit right there, man. That's... You know what's the funny thing? The players today don't understand the privilege it was to make the Pro Bowl
Starting point is 00:20:33 back then. The Orlando that they do now, oh, that ain't nothing. That ain't nothing. You had to go over. You had to go across that wall. To make the Pro Bowl during our day during our time was the real deal the real deal you know it was it was it was like it was an honor to make it to be able to take your family take your family
Starting point is 00:20:56 and experience that iolani hotel to experience the island oh Oh, it's amazing, man. Amazing. Yeah. I went, Ocho, when I first started going, they changed it to the Iolani in 93. My first time that I went, it was at the Hilton Hawaiian Village. The Hilton Hawaiian was open. So you just pull up. And everybody right there in your face. Everybody right there in your face.
Starting point is 00:21:20 And so I remember, rest his soul, Frank frank watch it went um i made it in 98 and uh my position coach in denver um was his position coach uh uh uh in in uh tennessee and he hit me up he said well uh he's he always called me sweetheart to this day. Less deco, less. He would always call me sweetheart. He's a sweetheart. I say, what's up? He said, I need a favor from you. I say, tell me what you need.
Starting point is 00:21:57 He said he told me he's Frank. Watch it with the first alternate. And it would really mean. OK. I mean, I've had done it for other players also. I don't want to call no name, but if guys would reach out and it's like, hey, bro, you going to the bowl? I mean, Ocho, back then, the winners got 10,000,
Starting point is 00:22:17 the losers got 5,000. So what the hell 10,000 going to do for me? I had them blowing 10,000 flying my flying my coach his wife all three of my position my position coach uh brie p bronco my position coach wade harman was my position coach less deco was my position coach so by the time i fly them out and their wife first class right now for the entire week i'm coming out of my pocket right because the hotels back then was like 250 a night. So 250 a night times three plus first class accommodation. So, yeah. So it was it wasn't it wasn't like I was and it wasn't like I was in love with going over because normally I was going to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:23:00 So the Super Bowl might be in New Orleans. Now I got to uh New Orleans to San Francisco New Orleans to San yeah and then gotta get on the plane or I'm leaving leaving Detroit or something so it's like no it really and after the time for me once my brother you know my thing was to try to make it with my brother that that was that was my big thing Ocho so once I made it with him you know it was, and I don't want people to think it wasn't an honor because it was an honor. But for someone else to get that opportunity
Starting point is 00:23:31 because I expected to go back the following year. So it wasn't no guarantee if I didn't let him go, he was going to be able to go because I knew I was going to go back. So that was one of the things that I prided myself on the guys
Starting point is 00:23:45 like hey bro okay sure no problem oh joe your biggest your uh biggest loss was against the jets 37 nothing week 17 2009 god damn we lost that bad same as my just like me 37 nothing wait we didn't we didn't get a field goal zero wait 30 as a matter of fact they say y'all didn't get a field goal? Zero. Wait, 30? As a matter of fact, they say y'all didn't even cross half field. Hey, that. Midfield. Hold on. You said 2009?
Starting point is 00:24:12 Yep. That motherfucking Revis. That's that motherfucking year. And boy, the Jets defense. Man, the Jets defense was crazy that year, man. You hear me? Yeah. As a matter of fact, I think T.O.
Starting point is 00:24:25 with T.O. might have been with us that year, too. But that goddamn defense, man, that year. Boy, they was hell. You hear me? Matter of fact, I think T.O. might have been with us that year too, but that goddamn defense, man, that year, boy, they was hell. You hear me? And matter of fact, not only did we lose 37-zip, I think they beat us the following week after that too, if I'm not mistaken. They beat y'all in the playoffs? Yeah, man. They did. Golly.
Starting point is 00:24:41 That's bad. That's like when you act a fool, when you when you act a fool you know you act a fool somewhere your mama tear your ass up your grandma tear your ass up and then y'all got two ass cut for the price of one oh that's crazy yeah but you know what back in the day ocho my grandma like would beat us and she would remember stuff from a month ago or two weeks ago. I was supposed to tear your ass up. I'm like, oh, whoa. Are you?
Starting point is 00:25:13 Yeah. I said, so what? Come on, granny. I messed up. My grandma had a saying. My grandma had a saying. Listen, I might not get you now, but I'm going to beat your ass for the old land of new. So she had doubled up on my ass woman because she had let something slide.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I'm going to let something slide. But then if I act up again, well, I'm going to beat you for the old land of new, which you just did today. Yeah. Boy, I never, I miss the days, man. And then what do they do, Ocho? I don't miss them. Because guess what? As soon as, like, people start coming over, your uncle, your aunt start coming over.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Yeah, you know, I had to tear that boy ass up. Randy, what you want? Why you got to tear that ass? Ain't nobody asking that. Don't let nobody, don't let people come over and you was young now. And you know, for me, I was in dance back in the day. I used to do, no, I'm not trying to be funny.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I used to do, I was in theater. I was in dance. I was in arts. You know, I have an appreciation for that. Come on out here and dance for them and show them your routine. Come on out here, boy. Hey, man, come on. If you got a talent, if you got a talent, you got people going to make sure people come over.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Oh, yeah, man. Some good days, man. Yeah, but I'm like, Granny, you ain't got to tell. Ain't nobody ask you that, Granny. You ain't have to tell you you whipped me earlier this week. Ain't nobody even ask you that.
Starting point is 00:26:31 They say, how you doing, Mary? And the first thing that's out your mouth, you're like, yeah, I had to tell that boy. Tell all your business. Tell all your business. I'm like, come on, Granny.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Ocho, check this out. Travis Kelsey calls our critic. I think our defense is playing their asses off all year man we're not we're not rolling like we have been in the past and I know there's a lot of media pointing finger that some of the skill players that we have I say effort that man man excuse my language it's a group effort and when you turn on the film what's real is we got we got guys that can play this game we got guys that can have success that we can have success with success with and win with win championships with i know that i know excuse me i've been on championship caliber teams when you watch the film penalties in critical
Starting point is 00:27:15 moments turnovers in critical moments and it's everybody in the years past we found ways to win these games and i think we're finding ways to get better every single week hey Trav you know Trav is my guy that's my nephew that's my guy Trav everything that you said in here is what the media is saying yeah it's penalties it's drops it's fumbles
Starting point is 00:27:36 and it's the same guys because guess what it's the same players it's MBS it's Sky Moore it's rice it's uh cadarious tony yes yes and i'm saying you got guys and you're getting you getting you know you say we're finding ways to get better how you got 33 drops not you got 34 okay but we got 34 drops. So I'm just... Okay, where is the improvement?
Starting point is 00:28:09 And I'm not saying that you guys can't, but I haven't seen it. I see better than I hear. Right. So, I don't know. And I get it. I'm all for it. Yeah. Ride with take up for your teammates. Every time. You got to.
Starting point is 00:28:24 I believe Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes did what they did at the officials and say all that stuff because they didn't want to say something to Kadarius Tony. Because, you know, Ocho, sometimes you could be mad. You get mad at somebody, and it's really not about them. Somebody else really made you upset, but but you pointing your anger at them and it's misguided so they said what they said and they come back and retract what they said because come on bro you saw that man lined up a damn foot off the ball you couldn't from the sideline you couldn't even see the ball and you know you know i mean well we talked about it. There's no need to be the dead horse.
Starting point is 00:29:07 But I mean, it's unfortunate. I understand where Travis Kelsey is coming from, especially for somebody like him who is one of the leaders of the team to be able to come out and say, you know, all right, God damn it, enough is enough. As a team, we've made mistakes.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Some of those mistakes are costing us. Addressing those mistakes, you know, we're doing what we can to of those mistakes are costing us. Addressing those mistakes, you know we're doing what we can to fix those mistakes because now it come nut cutting time. You got four weeks left in the season. You're going to make the postseason. You don't know who you're going to face,
Starting point is 00:29:35 but those names that you just called, the Skymores, the Machine Rice, MBS, and Goddamn Kadarius Tony, they're going to have to show up and do one thing one word you know when it comes to nfl this is what this was this what takes team from great or makes players great or make them average being consistent we need the play coming the postseason to be consistent no more mistakes but they can't even think about that this is the one
Starting point is 00:30:04 thing those receivers are gonna have to do you have to forget everything that's happened forget about all the drops you got to play free because you're not gonna be yourself unless you're playing free without thinking the minute you you'd be worried about oh well the media said this or the media said that and you're not playing your yourself it ain't gonna work you're gonna you're gonna fuck up you're gonna fuck and the worst thing about not having confidence, oh my God, that is the worst thing to have. It's everything. Oh, man, you're going to mess up.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Yeah, confidence is everything. You can't play, you can't play at a certain, you can't play, period, without some confidence. But the more confidence you have, the better you are. I mean, you look at the players that believe that are the best, they believe that are the best. They believe they're the best. They walk on the field saying, I'm the baddest mofo out there.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And they sincerely, wholeheartedly believe it. And it affects your play. Because the guy, as a matter of fact, you're so confident, you feel like you can walk on water. Can you really walk on water? No, but you come goddamn close because you believe right because and that was the greatest thing i mean uh um when we'd have guys playing other than john and we come off to we come off the side and we're not and or we be in practice and we're coming off the field and they threw the ball somewhere else and mike would tell him
Starting point is 00:31:21 do you know who the f that is do 84. He's going to the Hall of Fame throw him the F and ball. Or you on the sideline and your teammates y'all can't stop 84. You know they say hey Ocho cookie. Cookie Mocho. Get it. I'm like oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Hey you heard what he said. I got to get you. You got to wear this sale. Get that work. So Kyle Shanahan was asked about Brock Purdy and Christian McCaffrey MVP campaign. The only reason I wouldn't overly commit on either one of them, because I don't want to cancel each other out. But if any non quarterback is going to get an MVP, I don't know how it's not Christian McCaffrey. I mean, he's amazing in what he's done all year. If a quarterback, then I have to talk about Chris. I have to talk about if it's going to be a quarterback and then I don't have to talk about Christian. I can talk about our quarterback. And if his numbers is all
Starting point is 00:32:13 you see, I think that solves it. But if you watch the film, then make it, it makes it an even stronger, which to me is the most important thing. Purdy is third and passing yards, 3,350, which to me is the most important thing. Purdy is third in passing yards, 3,353, second in passing touchdowns, 25, while ranking 22nd in pass attempts. So he's putting up these numbers, not throwing nearly as many passes.
Starting point is 00:32:40 So in other words, he's more efficient with the passes that he does throw with a higher touchdown percentage than the other quarterbacks. And he's number one in QBR. Dak Prescott, who I believe is his chief competitor, ranks fourth. What is he? 38, 48, 48 yards behind him. He's first in passing touchdowns with 28.
Starting point is 00:33:02 He ranks sixth in pass attempts, and he's second in qbr so it's gonna come down it's gonna be you know like i said you remember we was talking about ojo it's horse race and down the stretch they come uh cmac is first in rush yards 1177 he's first in rush yards per game 90.5 he's second and rush touchdown 12 yeah i mean listen and that's the i i love i love what the 49ers are doing but no that juggernaut that juggernaut of an offense man that juggernaut of an offense it just it's like almost unfair and i've made the comparison before when you and i talked about it and i compare compare it to that, to that Warriors team when they had fucking Steph, Kevin Durant, goddamn KD.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I mean, like, goddamn, you can't go no wrong. And then when you look at it, well, you know what? You should be putting up those numbers. When you look at supporting cast, you have to work with, you got them. You got them. Brandon, I, you can got Debo Samuels. You got the, the, the goat, maybe one of the greatest left tacklers of all time, and Trent Williams. Then you got the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Obviously, we know what you got in the backfield. You got them McCaffrey. You know, he's been doing it for a very long time. Well, goddamn, this is- You got Kittle. Oh, my goodness. I forgot Kittle. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Kittle, I'm sorry, baby. I know you're going to see this. I love you to death. But you got Kittle. I mean, what you expect? You got a superstar team. you have a superstar team when i when i think about the mvp i'm being a little biased i like what tyreek what tyreek hill has done i don't have it i don't have his numbers in front of me but i just have a vet i think he has 1542 yards
Starting point is 00:34:41 uh 12 touchdowns off the top of my head, I don't know. I don't have a number in front of me either. But I remember seeing it a couple of days ago. And I think if my memory serves me correct, I think it's 1,542. So I'm just thinking about what he means to that offense with the Dolphins. I'm just thinking about it. He hurts his ankle. He goes out for two quarters.
Starting point is 00:35:02 And the offense, it stalls completely. They're struggling to move the ball it stalls completely they're they're struggling to move the ball and be as efficient as they should be and it goes to show the importance that he is the how valuable he is and he's not even a quarterback he's not even a quarterback and you you you were able to see that visibly pure as day and i think that's why why they lost those two quarters hurt them because to me with tyreek being on the field i think that's 14 to 21 goddamn points but you know what ocho what he did by not playing but maybe a couple of plays uh that game on monday night he took all the two votes away that we two could possibly get for MVP. He took them away.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Okay, I see what you mean. Because all the voters are going to say, no, it's Tua. It's Reek. Because he looked lost. Without Tyreek on the field, he looked very marginal. He still had Mostert. He still
Starting point is 00:36:02 had Waddle. He still had Wilson. He still had the, he still had waddle. He still had Wilson. He still had the weapons, the only Devon a chain. He still had all the guys on the field that he would normally have except 10 and he looked marginal. And then you see, they start getting going again. Once he got back on the field. So all the votes, all the voters that could potentially possibly be voting for Tua, say, nah, it's not you, bro. I'm sorry. It's Tyreek. I think I like Tua. Tua is good. He's very efficient,
Starting point is 00:36:32 very accurate. Very, very, very, very accurate. And when it comes in within the offense, within the timing of the offense, he is very, very good at being very accurate
Starting point is 00:36:42 and throwing the ball on time. I like him. Yes. But I don't know. I like him. Yes. But I don't know. I just had to make my case for Tyree because, obviously, they would never give an MVP to a receiver. It's a quarterback award. Well, the closest – well, I'm saying the closest receiver came was Jerry in 87 when he played 12 games the strikes short season
Starting point is 00:37:05 he played 12 games he had 22 receiving touchdowns and if I'm not mistaken he lost by one vote or two votes to John Elway but I think in 82 a kicker won the MVP what Cox from the Washington Reds
Starting point is 00:37:21 excuse me I don't want to say that they were the name but now they're the commanders but. I don't want to say that. They were the, you know, we, they were the name, but now they're the commanders. But if I'm not mistaken, I think the strike short season, didn't Steve Cox win the award? Mark Mosley, Mark Mosley, straight on kicker, Mark Mosley. But it was an 82, right? 82 was another strike short season.
Starting point is 00:37:39 That's crazy. Now there've been two defensive players to win the award. Alan Page was the first to win it. LT was the last to win it. Minnesota, the Purple People leaders, Alan Page, Minnesota Vikings, LT, that great defense in 86. They completely dominated games consistently throughout the entirety of a season. So I understand it. But when I look at what Tyreek has been able to do, he has completely dominated games throughout the consistency of the season.
Starting point is 00:38:07 And he said, listen, he set a goal. I want to have 2,000 yards by the end of the season. He set a goal, and he's still right there on it. He's right there on it. You know how hard it is to say, you know what, I'm going to go do this, and then go and execute it and do that and they know it's coming and you still can't stop it? Yeah, he's going to have to pick up the pace
Starting point is 00:38:29 because that 61 yards really hurt him. Remember I told you, Ocho, he needs to have one of these games where he goes 200 and maybe have another 150 behind it because as he gets closer, the team's like I don't want you breaking the record on us. Because remember in the last dance there was a lot of things leading up to it but what did they mainly
Starting point is 00:38:49 show the shot oh utah yeah again utah wasn't the only one to guard them yeah yeah yes he pushed it and he held a pose so teams like nah you're, we're not going to be in your documentary, the whole documentary. All you do is talk about you cooking us. You know what's funny? The funny thing about it, even if you do come in with a game plan, you know what? We're going to stop Tyreek.
Starting point is 00:39:14 They're going to find a mismatch anyway because they do so many different things with him. Schematically, there ain't no way to stop him. They put him in motion. They put him in the slot. They put him in the backfield. They do all kinds of things with him where he's consistently behind ways to get the man the ball no matter what but in that situation i think it's going to be different ocho because if it's close
Starting point is 00:39:35 let me tell you why you remember when jerry rice day his last game in 99 when he was with when he was well with the 49ers oh no he's with the 49ers and they. No, he's with the 49ers. And they played the Bears, and they had a Jared Rice appreciation day. That was the day that T.O. broke the record because they said, we're not going to let Jared Rice celebrate. And the next thing you know,
Starting point is 00:39:55 T.O. got 20 for like 200 or something. So that's what they're like. Jalen Waddle might have 300 yards. So, you know, you might have two other receivers, but they're going to do everything they possibly can to make sure Tyreek doesn't get that record. Hold up.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I remember also Jamal Lewis. I think Jamal Lewis needed like 100 yards against the Steelers to break ED's record. The Steelers said, uh-uh. Coach, I remember talking to Coach Kyle. Coach Kyle said he was not going to get that. Somebody else might have got a hunt 200 yards rushing, but he wasn't. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:31 That's funny. Three Cowboys, three more Cowboy players have the flu. Michael Parsons is fully recovered from the flu. Remember, he was suffering last week, but he's making his rounds through the locker room. Stephon Gilmore, Brandon Cook, and Jalen Tolbert are all battling it now, and I think they mispracticed today.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Have you ever had anything like that come through your locker room? No, not that I can remember. And if it did happen, I don't remember because it's been so long. I'm 12, 13 years removed from the game, so I really don't remember anything like that. But I like this. I like the fact that the flu has come through the locker room. You know why? You know who else's locker room the flu came
Starting point is 00:41:10 through? The Bulls. So I... I need the Cowboys to remember to watch, go back, go to YouTube and watch Michael Jordan flu game and that's how I need y'all to play. But you see what you
Starting point is 00:41:25 just did? Now you always get on me. Why every time you got to compare somebody, you got to compare them to the highest of the high? Because that's what the Cowboys play right now. They playing the highest of the high. So let me ask you a question. So which one Michael Jordan? Which one Michael Jordan? On the Cowboys? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Dak Dakota Prescott? Dak Dakota Prescott is Jordan. You want to know who Pippen is? You want to know who Pippen is? So he didn't buy for Jordan, huh? Want me to tell you who Pippen is? Huh? Seedy motherfucking Mary Had a Little Lamb?
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Starting point is 00:43:13 says, I was told that I'm responsible for the offensive guys protection. I'm not really sure how I protect myself, make a play and protect the offensive player as well. But that's what I was told. I'm not really sure what I do moving forward as far as playing the game. So hopefully I'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Bullshit. Commissioner, I love Commissioner. Commissioner, you know, and I talk to you every chance I see you at an event, you and I have a conversation, I give you a hug. But that's not the defensive player's job to protect them. Because whose job is it to protect the defensive player? Huh? Hello?
Starting point is 00:43:48 You don't ask offensive players to protect the defensive players because they cut defensive players all the time. Listen, I've said it before and I told you again. Listen, Goodell and I are on a first-name basis. We converse once a month, which is kind of weird being the fact that I am of no value to the NFL no more,
Starting point is 00:44:11 but we still have a relationship and we've stayed in contact all these years later. But the NFL has handicapped defensive players so bad to the point where one of them are going to end up hurting themselves because you can't play football
Starting point is 00:44:24 the way we've always played. There's no way to learn and adapt and new ways to tackle. It's impossible at this stage. It's just nothing you can do. Because it divides physics. Everybody got bigger, faster, and stronger. The dimensions of the field are still the same.
Starting point is 00:44:44 There is nothing you can do. Nothing. You have running back getting fined for lowering their head. You got DBs getting fined for lowering their head. How else are you supposed to play the game of football? Kareem Jackson, I love you to death. I don't even know what to tell you. Normally, when there's a problem, I always have a goddamn solution. I don't even have no solution for you. And I'm an to death. I don't even know what to tell you. Normally, when there's a problem, I always have a goddamn solution.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I don't even have no solution for you. And I'm an offensive player. But the only thing I can tell you is to play a game. But brother, please protect yourself. Because if you change the way you play the game, if you change the way you tackle, you're going to end up hurting yourself, man.
Starting point is 00:45:18 You're going to end up hurting yourself. Yep. Mm-hmm. And I think the thing is, Ocho, is that physics will always be a part of sports because anything that goes up, it must come down. It must come down. Because here's the thing, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:45:33 we're taught that anytime we see danger, it's just like if somebody put their hand in front of your face, you blink. That's just instinct. So if I catch a ball and I see a guy coming, I'm going to do this, Ocho, because I'm trying to protect myself. So he might have had a target point up here. But when I see him and I try to protect myself.
Starting point is 00:45:53 You're coming down to him. I brought myself into his danger zone. And what's he supposed to do? Oh, man. He's supposed to come full speed, see me. Only in cartoons can somebody stop running full speed. But this is real. This is reality.
Starting point is 00:46:12 And you're asking the human body to do something that it wasn't intended to do. It's not possible. It's not possible. It's impossible. Especially not at game speed and game tempo. It's impossible to do. And at some point, at some point, what's going to happen?
Starting point is 00:46:29 We're going to end up having to play flag football. That's what it's going to come down to. We're going to have players that are going to come to an agreement and say, you know what, listen, it's a game. We're going full speed. I'm going to just tap you on the hip. I'm going to just tap you on the hip because that's what the game is coming to. That's what it's coming to now at this point oh joe but you remember i told you i said oh joe they're gonna ban that
Starting point is 00:46:49 drop tackle they're gonna ban that drop tackle to pull down and bring it way down yeah yeah yeah yeah when you drop your weight down i said oh joe i told you i said oh they're gonna get that up out of there because too many too many guys are getting hurt because they can say well because see here's the thing ojo if it was like a situation where um guys are like turf and grass because but we've seen guys tear the acls on grass we've seen them turn the acl turf we've seen them turn achilles and things of that nature but that one thing for certain nothing causes more injuries on a tackle than that drop tackle yeah but you know you know what another thing about it though this is what can also save those that are being
Starting point is 00:47:30 tackled for the office of players when they do drop do the drop tackle most of the times if you look at the injuries that have happened the person is always fighting it the person is always still trying to go if you let your body go limp pause let your body go limp and just roll with it or just yeah you need paul my man my man limp i mean they might have something they might have something one of them on tablets in the system that you used to take so it ain't gonna be able to go i said pause but now let your body you can't shut it down but i i got i was really good at it when i felt contact and it was going against the way i was going i just went with it i i let i just let the body go and you just flow with it and it prevents yourself from getting hurt but oh sure i mean you might see i think like when i got into the league
Starting point is 00:48:19 and for like seven eight nine ten years i might see somebody get tackled like that once every seven, eight games. Now you might see that tackle two, three, four times a game. Every per game. I mean, I made a play, Albert Lewis tackled me like that in 93. We're the arrowhead. I know you don't know the arrowhead
Starting point is 00:48:39 used to be turf before they changed it. And so I caught a, I think I caught like a like a little seattle route which is a quick slam and i jump up and catch the ball and he got he's around my waist and he slide down and right on my ankle joe right on it right oh boy you talk about some pain but now the thing is we didn't get no high ankle sprains it was just an ankle right right right and now i'm just getting ready to come into myself i'm all of a sudden i'm the guy that they counting on oh joe i ain't practiced i just shot the ankle up every week shot it up i had
Starting point is 00:49:17 shot it up so much that i couldn't i couldn't put i couldn't take because i used to take to my skin and i made the mistake of taping to my skin and I made the mistake of taping to my skin I hadn't took so many shots the skin I peeled all the skin off my ankle so now it's just open
Starting point is 00:49:31 it's a funny funny story and I've told this story all the time and people always ask man how did you manage you know to have a career and have no injuries and the funny thing about it
Starting point is 00:49:42 is I had home remedies that I use and people, nobody believed me. Nobody ever believed me. Oh, you never had no angle spray? Yeah, I sprayed my ankle before. But what I used to do for me is I used to get urine. Y'all stay with me now. I used to get urine and warm it up really, really- Where that urine from? Where it from? Whoa, whoa, whoa. I need, time out. I need a quick explanation. Who urine?
Starting point is 00:50:06 Yours? I get mine. And if it wasn't enough, if it wasn't enough of mine, I would have to get my teammates urine. Listen to me. Listen. I'm listening. I'm listening. It work wonders, though.
Starting point is 00:50:20 I get enough urine to where I can, if it's enough in a bucket that I can warm up. I put my ankle that's swollen or the one that's sprained, warm it up really hot, sit my foot in the urine. And the heat and the toxins from the urine would absorb all the swelling, all the swelling out. And I swear, if I sprained my ankle, even if it was a high, if I sprained my ankle on the Wednesday and we play Sunday, by the time I got to Friday, I was able to do that fast walk through practice on Friday and play the game fully healthy Sunday. I was there. I was going to have to
Starting point is 00:50:56 miss that game. If I got to stick my foot in the bucket of urine, I'm going to miss that game. There's a reason you can't make the club in the tub. You can't make the club in the tub. And that's one of the reasons why I played a full career with no injuries because I always had little remedies that would get me through. You can't make the club in the tub, and if it's pee, it ain't me. You on your own, though, children.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Oh, no. Oh, no. All that stuff. They do it. Oh, no. There ain't no big pee going on. Ain't no peeing. Oh, no. Ain't no peeing going on nowhere. I get it. I get it. Oh, no. There ain't no peeing going on. Ain't no peeing. Oh, no. Ain't no peeing going on nowhere.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I can't do that, Ocho. Look here. I done had some squirrels. Hey, what you saying? If it's pee, it's what? If it's pee, it ain't me.
Starting point is 00:51:44 I got to let you have that one, Ocho. You're going to keep that remedy. You shouldn't even have told nobody that. Now, I've done the red clay. I've done the DMSO. I've done a lot of hometown remedies. That DMSO will have your mouth smelling like
Starting point is 00:51:58 goddamn shit. I don't play with that DMSO. Well, no. I bet you don't know how much DMSO I've used. I had an old teammate that jumped together. I don't know if you probably know Jumpy, but Jumpy, man, I don't know what. This joker sprained his ankle, and that joker ankle
Starting point is 00:52:20 by the size of a grapefruit. He had this stuff in a bottle. He said he got it from home because he Gullah. I'm talking about he Geechee. I'm talking about Geechee, Geechee. I'm talking about like he probably only like one, two generations that got off the boat in Charleston. Yeah, he that kind of Geechee.
Starting point is 00:52:38 He that kind of Gullah. But Ocho, me and Burns, we watch him. He rubbed his stuff on his ankle and then turned it up and drank it. Boy, what do you have to know? I don't know what it was, but he was able to play on Sunday. Now, I know I'm country. I'm corn-carving an out-house country. But he way more country than me.
Starting point is 00:53:06 He more country than you. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And that's saying something. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Jumping, man. He was a great dude. I love playing with jumping. Oh, Joe, check this out.
Starting point is 00:53:21 You and I both are part of a petition. The Las Vegas because the Super Bowl is going to be held in Vegas. And we're part of a petition to get the NFL to relax some of the celebration rules. Now, we understand not the sexual, you know, the gyration and doing all that stuff. And none of the celebration. No, no, none of the the throw slash and the six shooters and all that stuff. Nothing that mimics violence.
Starting point is 00:53:44 But let the guys become more creative it is Vegas and you know Vegas is a town with a show and you know the Sinatra's and the Sammy Davis's all the greats have performed we got Usher we got Adele we got as a matter
Starting point is 00:54:00 of fact Wu-Tang is about to have a residency out there so some of the greats Kelly Clarkson I think Carrie Underwood a lot of Matter of fact, Wu-Tang is about to have a residency out there. So some of the greats. That's going to be live. Kelly Clarkson. I think Carrie Underwood. A lot of people have had residencies out there. I think they should. Look, go sign the petition.
Starting point is 00:54:19 You can find the petition at change.org slash celebration. Go sign this. The NFL players need your support. Support the NFL players for having fun, pushing boundaries and embodying the spirit of celebration. Let up just for this one time. Like I said, we ain't gonna do no sexual or no sexual gyrations
Starting point is 00:54:36 and things like that. We're not gonna do anything that mimics violence because we do have kids watching. But hey guys, come out with your creativity. NFL, let them say hey. Everybody in the chat sign the petition we that's what we need that's what we need you to sign the fact and the players i'm gonna have a goddamn orientation for creativity and authenticity so we can come up with some new stuff some new stuff that hasn't been repeated and we're gonna get this thing going we're gonna
Starting point is 00:55:05 get it going yeah i mean uh one i mean the right now the dolphins are in the lead oh yeah the dolphins with the uh the dolphins did the roller coaster the titans they did yeah they did remember titan and they did stop the yard that was really they did stop the guy with the name they threw him and he hit him on the elbow and that was a good one. Right now, the Dolphins are the lead. The Dolphins are the lead. Matter of fact, you know what? I forgot to mention, you just talked about having fun and showmanship. I went to see tonight. I went to watch Shannon Crowder.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Shannon Crowder did his first stand-up comedy tonight at the Miami Improv. I went to the Miami Improv to see how he would be shannon crowder he's already funny just in general so you know get on stage in front of a crowd now that's a whole nother ball game that's a whole nother ball game man this man had me up there i was in tears just tears laughing you know his first stand up and it was just funny to see someone be able to transition from being a football player, trying to knock people's heads off to actually being able to sit up there in front of a crowd and engage with delivery about life stories and experiences. But I don't know why I just thought about that, but.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Well, you got your boy. Now, you know, your boy, that your boy been writing some material down now, you know, your boy been writing. Wait, are you good in front of crowds though? I know you can speak in front of crowd, but jokes is a different ballgame. Oh, Joe, you know... It's a different ballgame. I know, listen, I'm a jokester, too. But in front of that crowd, what?
Starting point is 00:56:34 That shit different. Yeah, yeah. That shit different. Yeah, I got to... Because if they don't bite, you got to get them to bite. If they bite right away and you reel them in, you good.
Starting point is 00:56:42 But if that first joke don't hit like it should, it's going to hit. Because I got, because I got, because I got three off the real guarantee. Guarantee the left. Yeah. Oh, it's a wrap from now. So you can find a petition
Starting point is 00:57:00 at change.org slash celebration. That's change.org slash celebration. That's change.org slash celebration. We need your help. We want these players to celebrate. We want to have a good old time at the Super Bowl in Vegas. That thing going to be lit. I'm playing all fans.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Oh, hey, Ocho, you know what we're doing? You know, we're working on having a live show. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's the thing. We're working on. Why you ain't tell me? Yeah, Thursday. We're working on having a live show, having guests.
Starting point is 00:57:27 In Vegas, yeah. Oh, man, nigga, I'm finna put my good shit on. Boy, I'm finna put my good shit on. Hey, hey, Mace, matter of fact, listen. We got to have another giveaway. Admit it, life would be boring without me. We got to have another giveaway. What you want to give away?
Starting point is 00:57:49 How many followers How many followers We need to have By Super Bowl? A million I'm not sure That's going to be hard Because we'll be 750
Starting point is 00:57:57 750 Alright listen How about If we doing a live show In Vegas How about we fly Two people from the chat or some kind of way
Starting point is 00:58:07 and have them come out to the show? I'm not saying go to the goddamn game because I ain't paying for them high-end goddamn football teams. Hell no. As a matter of fact, I ain't going to the game, but damn, sir.
Starting point is 00:58:17 I think it would be dope to be able to treat somebody to come out to Vegas, to come to the live show or whatnot. Well, you know what? You do a great job of giving away our money. I think we need to talk. We need to talk.
Starting point is 00:58:30 We need to talk to you because we do got some balls. Right, right, right. We got to see what... Because, you know, hotel rooms. We got to get hotel rooms. We got to get flights. They can stay with us.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Who? Whoever. Man, you know what? Whoever win. Like, I pick one winner. they can stay with me and the other winner can stay with you no they can't stay with me i've done i'm done sleeping hey you know you know i'm saying you gotta treat the fans right though what you mean yeah like i said what we're gonna do oh let them talk let them talk over the next let them have
Starting point is 00:59:04 the full experience no they cannot stay with me you. Let them have the full experience. No, they cannot stay with me. No, they ain't going to have no full experience. They have to have the full experience of what it's like to live like us. Because guess what, Ocho? Guess what? So what happens if somebody pass gas in my room? 80th floor, out the window they go.
Starting point is 00:59:21 So no. No, that ain't happening. No, you're not going to be using the bathroom in that room no uh uh no no i'm the only one i'm the only one going to the going number two in the bathroom in my hotel room that's it how you gonna throw up the 80th floor. Hey, check this out. Ocho, this, hey, look, when we on the road, we on the road, and they have to come to my room to set up. Ocho, when they come to my room
Starting point is 00:59:55 and they got to set up, they go to their own room to go to the bathroom. I'm the only one, my bathroom is off limits. They say only Shattershark can go here. Hey, man. Boy, you shout out, man.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Man, you gonna throw the view, bro? Oh, no. I'm just saying, I thought it'd be a good look because there's one thing to be able to watch us, to watch us,
Starting point is 01:00:13 you know, on the show. One, be able, you know, to chime in in the chat, but to actually win tickets to come to Vegas and then get the experience, stand with us, dinner, breakfast, lunch, chat,
Starting point is 01:00:28 talk about life. That's a great experience. Oh, Joe, first of all, look, I got to work. First of all, I got to work Wednesday. I got to work Thursday. I got to work Friday. I'm going to be working. That's the whole
Starting point is 01:00:44 point, giving them the life experience of what you go going to be working. That's the whole point. Giving them the life experience of what you go through day to day. That's the whole point. Like somebody just. That ain't all I do day to day. What else you got to do? No. I ain't really.
Starting point is 01:01:02 We are in Vegas. What? Who know? I might go to the little white chapel. I might get married. I ain't don't tell it. Hey. You know?
Starting point is 01:01:14 Hell no. Man, this man going to talk about. This man talking about. Hey, what up? Man, this man talking about staying in my room. Man, please. I mean, but I ain't had a room. I ain't had a room. I know you ain't never had. I know you ain't had a roommate in years but I'm just saying
Starting point is 01:01:27 I haven't slept in the same room with somebody since because when I first got to the NFL we had roommates so you slept in the you slept in the room and Clarence K was my roommate Clarence K was my roommate and then in 93 Wade came and
Starting point is 01:01:44 we got our own I mean you could pay to get your own room I was like man I'm too grown I'm too grown to be in a room by myself uh to be in a room with someone else and so I ended up paying and then when Mike came in 95 everybody got a room to everybody got a room to themselves but I hadn't had a room oh no I can't I ain't I definitely oh no I mean i'm just listen i'm i'm i'm i don't know i'm a social butterfly man i'm very open uh to things like that matter of fact you probably don't remember if anybody in the chat i know y'all well if you're in the chat you could do your homework i had a friend a homeless guy by the name of pork chop who was a friend of
Starting point is 01:02:22 mine i met him I forgot what year it was, but he came up to me, walked up to me, man, asked me for them. Hey, can I get a beer? I'm like a beer. Matter of fact, I'm going to make sure you get a beer. I went in there, I bought him a whole case of beer. And we met on a Monday. I swear to God, I tell you no lie. Me and Porkchop became friends and we were inseparable for about two to three years. Every day, Unc, I hung out with a homeless man,
Starting point is 01:02:51 got him cleaned up, you know, showered him up, man. And we went everywhere together. Man, strip club, all type of stuff. And chat, if you just Google Porkchop and Ocho or Chad Johnson,
Starting point is 01:03:02 you'll see the story. You was at his group club. I took him to the... Listen, he had a thousand ones. I say, pork, I say chop. You got to take the ones and you throw them in the air like this. I go get my food and bite my burger.
Starting point is 01:03:17 I look back, man, it's a picture on the internet. Somebody could find it. Instead of him throwing the money, he got wads of cash stuffing it in his pocket because he ain't used to having no money. He was legit homeless
Starting point is 01:03:35 and he's asking for some beer. And from that day on, every day I would go to South Beach. We would eat at David's Cafe and I got so comfortable with him. I had brought him to the big house. i had brought him to the big house i had brought him to the big house had him sleeping in one in one of the rooms because the kids were now they were older now they weren't there had this big ass house all these rooms and nobody was there
Starting point is 01:03:54 so i was like fuck it and then he fucking upped him with the new orleans and i ain't seen him since yeah i like you know, the strip joint got some good food. Magic City. Hey, listen, Tootsies. Them chicken tenders at Magic City. I don't go to Atlanta often. And that fried catfish. I don't go to Atlanta
Starting point is 01:04:17 often, so I don't know anything about their chicken wings. But I know one thing, over at Tootsies. Well, next time you go, we going to... Hey, Madge, I know you watch it. I know Madge. Madge, see the name of Madge. I'm going to bring Ocho in there. Set it out for us. Man, you know, I get them, hey, I get them, hey, ain't nothing like them chicken
Starting point is 01:04:34 tenders and that fried catfish with a side of booty juice. What? Booty juice. You know, the girl be dancing. They got to dance. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Bands will make them dance. I thought booty juice was like a drink or something. I thought it was a drink.
Starting point is 01:04:48 It is. The way they be sweating up in there, then you be drinking, Ocho. You be drinking. I don't know if you've been to Tootsie's or not, but obviously upstairs, listen, no.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Man, listen, the food at Tootsie's is phenomenal. I always go to Tootsie's. I always go to Tootsie's. The seafood rice and lobster tail. The seafood rice and lobster tail. The seafood rice and lobster tail. I'm allergic to shellfish. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:05:13 For real? I was just joking. Now, look. When I'm eating, ain't nobody dancing over the food. I was just joking. Because, man, they're going to be like, man, sharp. Man, got the dog over the food. He got girls dropping. Got dog over the food he got girls
Starting point is 01:05:25 dropping got booty over the food and everything because you know how you i know how y'all are yeah man hey that oh you don't you know but i do be eating there i do be eating it i do what's the uh player what's the uh player that got in trouble for getting the wings uh oh oh oh lemon pepper yeah that's. That's when I heard about the wings. I gotta check that out. And Magic City? Magic City. Atlanta, right down the street.
Starting point is 01:05:54 I've been to Atlanta maybe four times and two of those were to play the goddamn Falcons. Yeah, but see, you need some time. But you know, Magic City, they got Blue Flame, they got Scrokers. They used to have Body Tap. They used to have, what's the other one?
Starting point is 01:06:12 What's the other one out there on Beaufort Highway? Ooh, there's another one on Beaufort Highway. I can't think of it. I should have. But boy, back in my younger days, back in my younger days. I mean, it sounds like you know what you're talking about. It sounds like you were just there last week. The way you- No, I wasn't there last week. You got the younger days, Ocho. I mean, it sounds like you know what you're talking about. It sounds like you were just there last week. The way you...
Starting point is 01:06:26 No, I wasn't there last week. But you know, you got the cheetah, you got Pink Pony. The Gold Club used to be... Yeah, yeah. You know all of them. Shooter's Alley. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You used to make your rounds, huh?
Starting point is 01:06:39 Ocho, man, you know, I'm a country boy. I don't know nothing about that. So when I go... You don't know nothing about it, but you know all the names. I know all the names. But then, you know, in Denver, you had Mile High, you had Diamond Cabaret, you had the Pink Pony. I mean, you had a... What was it?
Starting point is 01:06:57 No, Mile High. What's the one that Ja went to? I think Ja went to Diamond Cabaret or the one on Colorado. I don't know. Right there in Cherry Creek. What's the name? Shotgun Willie. That's real?
Starting point is 01:07:15 That's a real name? That's real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shotgun Willie. Well, y'all live the wild. But my high was my favorite. See, my high used to be my favorite. I go off in the cut.
Starting point is 01:07:29 They were thick. Wait, hold on. How'd you go off in the cut and it's thick? You got to. No, I'm saying, I'm saying the women. In Denver? Huh? That's the Midwest.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Wait, and. You know, they corn free, they corn friend they corn free corn thing now without i'm talking about 510 175 you remember 180 you ain't a lady hold on i all right listen i'm not i'm not trying to be funny i don't frequent denver much really i can't remember the last time i've been in denver except to play champ bailey years ago but when i think of what you just said in reference to our healthy women i think of houston i think of atlanta yeah i think of miami yeah i think of uh but it's a different flavor now you go when you go to atlanta when you go to atlanta okay you go to magic city you go to strokers you go to the blue flame body tap closed down used to go to
Starting point is 01:08:25 farley's shooter alley now you go to the cheetah you go to uh uh pink pony they modeling they doing lingerie okay okay nah if i will get five for the top five for the bottom i need it all dropping. I need you to get low. Shawty, get low. Come on with it now. This ain't no Victoria's Secret. We ain't doing no molly, no lingerie. I need you to come up out of it. I got to tell you.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I don't frequent the strip club either. I got to take me a trip to Atlanta, man. I got to take me a trip to Atlanta. I can't look. I can't man. I got to take me a trip to Atlanta. Man, Ocho, I'll be in that thing. I can't look. I can't look. I can't... Oh, Raph! Ocho, what you doing?
Starting point is 01:09:11 What you doing? Oh, man! I can't look, Ocho. I can't look no more. Hey, Rell. Rell, I know you in the chat. Rell, we got to go to Atlanta, baby. I'm trying to see what I'm talking about. Matter of fact, man, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Hold on. Ocho, bad ass. I need to write the name of these places down. So, I'm going to hit all of them in the same night. Magic City is first. Skokas.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Hold on, hold on. Blue Flame. Hold on, baby. Hold on. You know, I got my journal right here, man. I got my journal. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:41 So, hold on. What's the first one? Magic City. Magic City, number one. Anywhere in the world. If the first one magic city magic city number one anywhere in the world if you go anywhere magic city number one magic city stroker strokers okay blue flame they got a strip club came called blue flame yeah yeah that should sound good blue flame okay bet yeah that's what we got now if we got? Now, if you want, if you look,
Starting point is 01:10:06 if you want the, they modeling, they modeling, you go to Cheetah. I'm from Miami. Well, I don't even care about W. Don't send me to Atlanta
Starting point is 01:10:13 to half-step now. No, no. I'm going to Atlanta to backslide. Okay. Magic City, Strokers, and Blue Flame.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Okay, just them three. That's enough. Oh, oh, oh, no. There's another Oasis. Who? I think Oasis. Yeah, just in three. That's enough. Oh, oh, oh, no. There's another Oasis. Who? I think Oasis. Yeah, Oasis. That's a movie.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Over there. Yeah, off of Chester Bridge. Chester. Ain't no look that way. Look at Oasis. Oasis, okay. But you know, back in the day, see, I'd be out there.
Starting point is 01:10:38 I'd be out there on Beaufort Highway, on Shooter's Alley and Folly's. You know what I mean? You'd be up in the dust. And see what I do, Ocho? See, I wasn't supposed to be at the places. So what I do, I go out there and I give me some gas. I put a little bit in my hands.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Knock that on smoke. Knock that on perfume. Right, right, right, right. I go in the face, man, like a little gas. Okay. Say, what happened? I say, yeah, you know. My boy ran out of gas. You know, I put that a little bit, a little bit, O what happened I say yeah you know my boy ran out of gas
Starting point is 01:11:05 you know I put just a little bit that's a good one I like that that's a good that's a good maneuver that's a good maneuver I'm out of you
Starting point is 01:11:11 see it ain't gonna work see I don't be outside the house so there's certain things I really can't get away with and if my routine changes then her antenna is gonna be up
Starting point is 01:11:20 that's why that's why if I'm a good if I'm a do it I'm a do it with her me and Ocho Ocho Ocho it with her. Me and Ocho, Ocho, me and me and Ocho, we going,
Starting point is 01:11:30 we going to Magic, we going to hear Strokers, we going to hear Blue Flame. Hey, you know, we going to make it. She worse than me. Like, we could be going, we could go somewhere. Man, she attack me and be like, boy, look at all that ass over there well that's what i'm looking for but she worse than me like that's it yeah man
Starting point is 01:11:53 i know when when i boom what's guarantee you when i seen her these names i guarantee before we do the next show when the next show sunday right sunday. No Saturday. They got three games Saturday. Oh, we ain't going to make, we don't make it that soon before, before we do the show Monday, I guarantee you me and her and been to them. Goddamn three places.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Watch. We're going, we're going to squeeze it in before Christmas. I don't know how you're going to go. Cause we got, we think about Ocho. We got Saturday, Sunday and Monday.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Oh, three days in a row. Well, you know what? I might be doing one of these shows from goddamn from Oasis. And man, I might do the show from Magic City.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Oh, so ain't it something about a woman with a nice body and a sun dress? Yeah. And that thing bouncing like a basketball couldn't have
Starting point is 01:12:38 and that thing just jumping when they walk. Wait, basketball couldn't have? I ain't never heard that one. Like they got two like a basketball couldn't have and this stuff back then when they walk. Yeah. I ain't never heard that one Like they got two baskets Like a basketball cut in half And this stuff back there
Starting point is 01:12:46 And when they walk that Yeah I know what you're talking about Girl if you can cook I'll marry you Right on the spot Right on the spot old Joe Tell me you can cook
Starting point is 01:12:57 Tell me you can cook Oxtail, neck bone Pig feet Listen Tell me you can cook something Women be so fine In the strip club man you just walk you walk up to him sometime and you just whisper in here why you ain't here doing this
Starting point is 01:13:09 yeah why you here doing this don't you i mean basically from the naked eye from the naked eye right now you look perfect where'd you go wrong i ain't got a blemish where did you go wrong honey i don't know what happened. But that ain't my... Look here. I ain't going to be Dr. Phil. I'm not going to be Ayala. I ain't here to get your counseling. Come on with it now.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Let's go to Waffle House. Let's go get something to eat. Let's go get something to eat. I know you're hungry. Hey, listen. Mama, let you know the first right around the conan now you ain't got to be in here yeah what what you need i know i know you got student i know you got student loans girl let me put your mind at ease for a couple of months there's a couple i mean you ain't got
Starting point is 01:13:56 to worry about nothing you ain't got to work anymore you want to you want to be a cna i can see you i can see i can pay for your class at that yeah but i told y'all what she told me something i want to go to real estate man she was so proud of her hair take your mama with you both of y'all both of y'all still houses that i want don't y'all that's not what i know joe yeah thank you mama with you man let's get back on track for you to get me going man you got people's bad, bad, bad UCI. Steve Kerr says Draymond Green suspension makes sense.
Starting point is 01:14:49 It's more than basketball. It's about helping Draymond. It's an opportunity for Draymond to step away and make a change. The answer is not a quick pick a number of games. The answer is to help Draymond. The one who troked Rudy, the one who took the wild flail, the one that punched Jordan last year, that's the guy who needs to change. Oh, shit. Steve, you're his head coach.
Starting point is 01:15:12 You remember what I said, Ocho? What's one of my favorite sayings? You never accept anything in a win. You win in a loss. When he was winning these championships, he never spoke out this strongly about Draymond. When he was high kicking, when he thought he was a rockette,
Starting point is 01:15:27 and he kicking Steven Adams in the groin, you ain't hear a word. When he was winning the championship, when he fell his leg up, he didn't say a word. I told you, you never accept anything in a win, you win in a loss. And now they done started to lose it. Now all of a sudden it's an issue.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Now when he punched Jordan Poole last year, you're sending a man away for one game. One game. What, you're suspending him on a game? Now, all of a sudden, oh, it's justified. It makes sense. It's not about a certain number of games. It's about Draymond.
Starting point is 01:16:00 When was this? I mean, you didn't want to get draymond no help when it first started i mean i you know what when i think about it obviously i don't conduct before you go i'm not saying that it's the warriors or steve kerr draymond did this draymond bears culpability draymond is responsible for Draymond's behavior. But I don't want people that's going to be like all of a sudden they're so concerned about Draymond when they allow this behavior to grow. You let Frankenstein, you let him create this. So, I mean, this is what you get.
Starting point is 01:16:42 The funny thing about it is Draymond has always been draymond do i condone some of the actions that he's done absolutely not uh obviously draymond a friend of mine but i don't condone those actions but when they were winning everything was okay now that they're losing everything is magnified because some of the things that he's doing is not helping the team win in any way so obviously it's something that they can harp on, which takes the attention away from the fact that the team is also losing and you still doing some of the things that are being a distraction and not helping us win. Obviously Draymond now being suspended indefinitely
Starting point is 01:17:18 until he gets the help that the league sees fit and that obviously the Warriors see fit as well before he makes his return. And when he comes back, I just want to make sure he's not a shell of himself. I want to make sure he's still the same Draymond, the same enforcer type defensive mentality, take no shit type Draymond that he is. I hope getting the help that he, the people says he needs, obviously, it doesn't take away from who he is as a basketball player and a defender i just think the thing is ocho is that i would have thought he said i'm not i'm not saying anything i'm not making this up he said that he cost his team a championship by getting suspended
Starting point is 01:18:00 for game five in the 2016 n finals. That's what he said. Yes, against LeBron. So if that was the case and you say you're never going to cost your team again, why would you put yourself back in that situation? Now, I get it. This is not the NBA finals, but your team, they need you now. You see, they benched Andrew Wiggins. The fourth quarter, Clay didn't even, it's like, it's seeming like it's going to hell in a handbasket
Starting point is 01:18:29 because this isn't the same team. Guys aren't playing. Steph is Steph is Steph. Steph is Steph. And so – but this right here, I just, I just look, I just say, and even Gil was on last night. And a lot of people have said, they don't believe Draymond could be Draymond without this, without these antics.
Starting point is 01:18:59 See, that's, that's, that's why I just said what I said, because I, I think that the, the antics and, the antics and the enforcer type mentality, similar to hockey, you know, our hockey players, you know, they have enforcers, you know, on the teams. I think if you take some of that away from him, I think it takes away who Draymond really is. He can still be Draymond Green without, you know know the chokeholds and the accidental slaps and
Starting point is 01:19:26 and the knee into the to the groin stuff like that i think if he can still remain his true authentic self and what makes him special because he's a special player no matter what people may think about him he long as he can he played in the wrong era he needs to be in the 80s 90s era so he he needs to be playing with oakley and mason and xavier mcdaniel yeah rick mahorn bill lambert marcus johnson he need to be kermit why he need to be with those guys because in this era you know david stern put a stop to that he's like okay y'all want to fight i'm gonna take all your money and adam silver's just followed up but out adam is a little is a little bit more lenient and a little bit more tolerant and a little bit more understanding than David Stern.
Starting point is 01:20:11 That's why so many of the players, they really like Adam because Adam is trying to make sure his best players stay out on the floor. But I don't think, I mean, when you back him into a corner, he doesn't have any choice. Even though this was Joe D, Joe Dumars, this was his decision. He's the EVP of personal conduct and things of that nature. I don't really know where Joe D. was supposed to go with this. He had no choice.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Yeah, he did. I get it. You tried to pull away, but, bro, you cold me yeah that that's not yeah did did did did did nurkish sell it oh of course i have a question i mean obviously you would know better than i than i would how long do you think he would have to to be out or how long is sufficient? Or what do they consider efficient enough, even though it's indefinitely, how much time is needed? Especially what if the team continues to struggle
Starting point is 01:21:14 and they need him back? I'm just saying. All those things you should have thought about before you did the act. I think it's's gonna probably be a man of 10 games i'm saying a minimum of 10 okay um wait he's indefinitely suspended with pay though right oh no oh they didn't took them they didn't took the money too no no we used to know only only government officials only only the police can get suspended with pay hell no you know damn well
Starting point is 01:21:46 if you're a professional athlete you get suspended you ain't getting no pay yeah man that'll get you right together quick boy that ain't gonna get him right cause he done been fired so much that'll get you right together quick boy NBA dudes
Starting point is 01:22:01 got that fuck you money NBA dudes got that fuck you money. NBA dudes got that fuck you money. You know? I want to keep mine. Oh, I mean, but I think it's different because you know as a football player, who you going to fight on the field, Ocho? I got on helmet. I got on pants.
Starting point is 01:22:19 I ain't going to do nothing but break my hand. I ain't going to do nothing but break my hand, break a finger or something. I ain't hurt him not one time. I ain't hurt to do nothing but break my hand. I ain't going to do nothing but break my hand, break a finger or something. I ain't hurt him not one time. I ain't hurt him one time. Now, obviously, it's different for basketball players because they're right there. But, you know, Gil's like, man, we're not really trying to fight. We ain't trying to talk like that. Nah.
Starting point is 01:22:38 We're not. And I get it. I get it. You know, everybody's selling wolf tickets. I'm bad. Hold me. Hey, hold me. Hold me now.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Don't let me go. Don't let me just. I close i get it i get it i get an arm distance of it you know something bad might happen something gonna happen but this is what this was the action that the nba had to take given his history and he's like well and draymond is saying well you know man i've been you know you keep holding my past against me. I was suspended for those games. Draymond, that's how it works. You're what they call a repeat offender. That's and as you keep repeating the act, the sentence should get harsher. A repeat offender that gets a DUI, the sentence gets harsher.
Starting point is 01:23:22 You know, the first time, OK, they might give you a fine and probation. The next time, they're probably going to take your license. The next time after that, you're probably going to do some time in jail. Damn. Yeah, that's how it goes. And that's how it should go. I'm glad I don't drink. Draymond has not
Starting point is 01:23:41 been suspended four times in 2023 alone. In March 1st, he got his 16th technical file and april 1st for stepping on sabonis november 5th putting rudy gobert in the headlock december uh december and definitely for striking rudy gobert well see the thing was but see here is the thing uh uh rudy gobert should be too, because I'd have had to whip them. Y'all let the man jump me. Y'all let the man jump me. Ain't nobody come to my defense.
Starting point is 01:24:09 You see how quick Draymond ran to Clay's defense? Fight everybody. Yeah, man. Man, what kind of bull jive is that, Ocho? Nobody want no smoke with Draymond, man. You ain't noticed that yet? Think about it. Have you seen anybody challenge him yet?
Starting point is 01:24:34 I haven't seen anybody challenge him yet. No. But my thing is, okay, Draymond is a separate issue. There must be something about Draymond that we don't know because he has always been the enforcer and nobody seemed to want that smoke. I'm just saying. I'm not condoning it. I'm not condoning the actions.
Starting point is 01:24:55 No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying it looked like he wanted the smoke, whatever. And if you had to walk through a motherfucking dark alley and it was somebody you were going to pick in the NBA, you don't want Draymond. Oh, yeah, right now. But that's how it was with Oak.
Starting point is 01:25:11 You remember Oak would play. Now I know Oak is a person for 25 years. That's how Oak was. They still in. They didn't want no Oak.
Starting point is 01:25:18 But, you know, and they had Oak. They had X-Man. I think X-Man might have been there for like one year, but I think he left like when Oak got there. They had Mason. Derek Mason? think X-Man might have been there for like one year, but I think he left like when Oak got there. They had Mason.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Derrick Mason? Not Derrick Mason. Anthony Mason. Anthony Mason. Yeah. Charles Smith. Yeah. But you know, they had in the Miami,
Starting point is 01:25:34 they had Zoe. They had them tough guys. Hey, Lazo always fighting somebody, man, back then, man. Zoe was always fighting. Remember, that was the Knicks. That was the Knicks, wasn't it? Yeah, that was. The Knicks had X and Ewing and Charles Smith, Anthony Mason.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Yeah, but see what they say now. That wasn't basketball. Just because someone is physical doesn't mean they're skilled. Right, right, right. And see, people are like, oh, they were tough. That's not basketball. I mean, that's football. Oh, the bad boy Pistons.
Starting point is 01:26:10 The bad boy Pistons started this book. Isaiah, Mahorn, Lambert, yeah. Sally, Rodman. Wait, John Sally was on that team? Yeah. I didn't know that. Sally was there. Absolutely, yes. Sal was there. Them boys i was there boy them boy
Starting point is 01:26:26 there man fighting everything no basketball everything everything man they and guess what back then they didn't really call no flagrants they're just like okay get up play go shoot the free throw that was a foul hard foul when when uh kevin mckayle snatchedatched Kevin Rambo's ass out there, they ain't throw nobody out. If I'm not mistaken, when Karl Malone opened up that gash on Isaiah, hit him upside the head with an elbow, 44 stitches. Opened him up like a fresh melon.
Starting point is 01:27:02 I wanted us to remember where they they really they was throwing back in the day now it wasn't no bull job I didn't see I didn't see in the footage I didn't see in the footage
Starting point is 01:27:12 I know them boys ain't play that's why it's yeah oh no when I think about some of the stuff that Draymond is doing
Starting point is 01:27:18 it's almost damn near child's play to some of the clips from back then when them boys was playing oh yeah child's play to some of the clips from back then when them boys was playing oh yeah child oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but back then you couldn't wolf like that because they're gonna
Starting point is 01:27:31 they're gonna tell you they're gonna see if you really buy that most definitely they're gonna standing on all 10 toes if you acting a fool back then you business business all business uh anthony ever says he wears fake jewelry because he doesn't want to spend the money. People are going to think it's real anyways because it's me. He's taking a page out of the Ocho book. I've been preaching the same thing for 25 years.
Starting point is 01:27:56 I've been preaching the same thing for 25 years. We as a people, we find value in the things that we can purchase and attain outside of seeing us as the true value. See, when they make a watch or they make a car or they make whatever it might be materialistic, right? That individual places the value or the price tag on what it is that they want to. And because the price tag is high or it might be high end, we buy it and wear it. And that is how we view our value and our image
Starting point is 01:28:35 based on how much we spend on shit. That shit means nothing. Who are you when you take off that watch? Who are you when you take off that motherfucking chain? Who are you when you take off them watch who are you when you take off that motherfucking chain who are you you take off them fancy motherfucking shades and clothes and shoes well my chain real and i ain't taking off i'm looking to add to it my watch real my bracelet real so y'all can listen to ocho if y'all want to and the best of luck to y'all but i'm not gonna work hard i love you baby i love you you hear me i know you're gonna see this too boy i'm not look listen
Starting point is 01:29:06 it's okay to have real pieces even i got real pieces i have real pieces i'm saying getting lost in the sauce hey how many what's the what percentage of us go broke when we done playing two years just two years after we done what percentage just stay with me baby stay with me now but it's 87 but a lot of that has to be... Ocho, but here's the thing. You getting a divorce. Because here's the thing. The worst thing about a divorce,
Starting point is 01:29:31 they take half the money and all the hoo-ha. That's not a good trade-off. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? You got to leave something. You see what I'm doing? You heard what you just said? And you understand why
Starting point is 01:29:41 I'm playing chess over here? That's why I want... That's why I ain't signing the papers. You see what I'm talking about? Yeah, you see what I'm saying? Did you put that out there, Ash? That's one of the things. What's that?
Starting point is 01:29:55 What's Ash talking about? Ash said we might have a giveaway to nominate someone to help with chat moderations to help Ash because y'all keep her busy. Hey, last night, Ocho, we had this one guy before we, uh, uh, hold on. Where is it at? Did you take that out? Oh. Um, Brandon is back.
Starting point is 01:30:14 We had this guy named Brandon, and we've been blocking him, and he's been begging, asking people for money, and we asked Brandon to get his begging ass off the chat last night. Lil Tank. There's somebody named Lil, not the Lil Tank, but everybody started that. When Lil Tank won the first time, everybody night. Lil Tank. There's somebody named Lil, not the Lil Tank, but everybody started that. When Lil Tank won the first time, everybody came with Lil Tank and he back spamming
Starting point is 01:30:29 again, even though I'm in block. So, Ash has accepted a mod application. So, to help us, DM Nightcap on IG. Y'all blocked Lil Tank and Brandon? Yeah, blocked the hell out of them.
Starting point is 01:30:45 They thought I was Jonathan Ogden or Trent Williams the way we blocked their ass. Ocho, let me ask you this. You could have one thing free for life. Which are you choosing? Flights, food, concert tickets, gas, hotel room, clothes, and shoes?
Starting point is 01:31:09 Probably flights. You got your damn mind. Give me food. What? If I could get something free for the rest of my life, flights, food, concert tickets, gas rooms clothes i see okay well you gotta understand i'm coming from a place of already ownership as far as businesses go i own three mcdonald's franchises so obviously i don't need food because i can eat for free there so the first thing i'm
Starting point is 01:31:36 flying all the time when it comes to work kids boom you're all on you're all on spirit you're playing 995 to fly so hell why you want to? Why you want that for free for the rest of your life? You spend $27 and you can go from goddamn heaven to hell for $27. If I can go to heaven to hell for $27, think what would happen if I could fly for free and save that $27. And it can go elsewhere. Like on a manicure pedicure. Manicure pedicure. Plan B.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Manicure pedicure. Plan B. You never know. Plan B. What you buying plan B for? For real. What she need Plan B for? Because she be mounting me when she want to.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Oh, okay. And I ain't got no say so. Man, go on a free willy. Shit. Nah. Mm-mm. She thinks she's... Make, I got, populate.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Go ahead and get another one. And another. Another who? Who? Shit me. Go ahead and get another one. And another. Another who? Who? Shit me. Not today. Mm-hmm. God has got you.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Well, you have, I tell you what, this is what I do for your show. You always want to do something. Okay, you have a baby in 24. I have a baby in 24. What? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Let's go ahead and do the thing.
Starting point is 01:32:42 Let's do the thing. Let's rewind back a little bit. Let's rewind back a little bit. How you going to have a baby and I'm still trying to find your woman okay we're through you finally hey i've been trying to find it a pad two and a half months we've been on this goddamn show and you just turn everybody down well maybe you maybe maybe you got somebody you don't want to tell me and maybe i should be taking the goddamn hint like hey i really got somebody you have't want to tell me and maybe I should be taking the goddamn hint. Like, hey, I really got somebody. You have one, I have one.
Starting point is 01:33:08 All right. All right, say less. All right, bet. All right, bet. I got you. You let me know when you start and I'm going to start. Ain't matter if you know what.
Starting point is 01:33:21 I've been practicing for years. Let us know what you think. Ladies and gentlemen, if you had a choice, you could have one thing free for life. What are you choosing? Flights, food, concert tickets, gas, hotel room, shoes and clothes. Ocho, check this out. There's a story that's resurfaced of a woman who donated her kidney to her boyfriend
Starting point is 01:33:51 who then cheated and dumped her. He cheated on her just seven months later. God damn. Wait a minute. Bring it to me again. She donated her kidney to him. her kidney. He was on dialysis and which I heard is very, very painful. You have to get your blood, you know, the impurities out
Starting point is 01:34:12 of your blood. And some people have to do it every day. Some people do it. I think every day, maybe every other day, every, you know, every couple of days, but anywhere, it's very painful unless you get a transplant well he needed a transplant she was a match she gave him her kidney he ended up cheating on her and dumping her whoa whoa in that situation you got to ride it out right what out
Starting point is 01:34:36 right but we go no we're going to motherfucking court you finna give me my kidney back we go on the court you finna give me my kidney back I nobody do I nobody do true story and I mean kidney back we go on the court you finna give me my kidney back i know about a dude i know about a dude true story and i mean no disrespect and i'm not trying to make fun of nobody but dude uh was dating a girl she got in a car accident she got in a car accident and she became paralyzed from the waist down paralyzed from the waist down right, for some reason she still had her senses up.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Man, he bought a wheelchair. Helped her learn how to walk the best that he could get her back to walking but still in a wheelchair. Nigga, she walked out of his life. You mean rolled out of his life?
Starting point is 01:35:21 Okay, my bad. Rolled out of his life and cheated and left him for somebody else. Yeah! Yeah! How did he not see that coming? They had to pick her up and take her. Man!
Starting point is 01:35:39 Well, you had to answer the guard, boy. You had to answer the guard. Ocho, I'm going to be serious, Ocho. If I'm with someone and they give me a kidney, hey, I'm like Emperor Penguins. I'm like Bald Eagle. We together forever. Right.
Starting point is 01:35:55 If I'm with my partner and she has an accident and she's paralyzed, she's my responsibility. I got her. I got her. That's crazy. I couldn't even
Starting point is 01:36:10 good conscience to live with myself. That ain't love though, man. That's that puppy love, man. That's that puppy love. You know, that's how you're able to get up and leave
Starting point is 01:36:19 and do some of the things that have happened. You know, when you look at the age of some of the people or situations that are in situations like this that ain't love it's all about convenience and opportunity at that point when you're that young it's about convenience and opportunity and what situation best fits me at that time if a better situation comes along guess where i'm going
Starting point is 01:36:40 i'm out i'm out and that's when we get to the point where we have an understanding there will always be somebody better than the person that I'm with. Always. Yeah, for sure. Always. For sure.
Starting point is 01:36:53 It's going to be somebody finer. It's going to be somebody with more money. It's going to be somebody taller. It's going to be somebody richer. It's going to be somebody with more car. Whatever it may be. Hold on, hold on. Tell me what you
Starting point is 01:37:05 saying so you be telling me right now if i meet somebody and then there might be somebody out there that's final yeah that look better got more money all all four of them things together i got to go to you i just play it i just play it i just play it i mean look do i do i do do i like a woman that could cook i mean my last relationship that mofo was a chef man you name it you cook it we could go to a restaurant she gonna come home the next day and cook it right right right oxtail neck bone
Starting point is 01:37:53 mac and cheese anything she could cook it it's weird I don't know what's wrong with me I'm not one that requires someone to cook I don't even like I didn't know what's wrong with me. I'm not one that requires someone to cook. I don't even like... I don't even...
Starting point is 01:38:08 I didn't know she could. I don't like real in the kitchen. I'm like, man, come on, man. If I always say... Listen, if I want to... And people always talk about why you always eating out? Why you and her
Starting point is 01:38:16 always going to eat out? I say, well, motherfucker, if I wanted to motherfucking date a... If I wanted a chef, I would have dated one. Yeah. I just... I like them in the kitchen. I like them in the kitchen wearing something sexy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I one. Yeah. I like them in the kitchen
Starting point is 01:38:26 wearing something sexy. I don't care for it because don't run up my... Turn that stove off right quick. I got something for you. Don't run up my light bill. Don't run up my electricity bill. Fuck all that. Man, we can go out to eat. I mean, you don't want to...
Starting point is 01:38:43 Oh, you ain't nothing like coming in the kitchen. You know, you come up from behind. Yeah, yeah, man. We can go out and eat. I mean, you don't want to... Oh, you ain't nothing like coming in the kitchen. You know, you come up from behind. Right, right, right. You know, like, you know... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, girl. What's your name? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:38:54 You know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, you got to make sure. Ain't nobody coming. Ain't nobody coming.
Starting point is 01:39:11 Ain't nobody coming. I got to try that. I got to try that. Yeah, man. I got to try that. You know, I hate when the kids will come over. Your kids go. Your kids go.
Starting point is 01:39:22 You know, it's hard. It's hard. You know, we got too many kids. We, you know, it's. Yeah, know, it's hard, it's hard. You know, we got, we got too many kids. We, you know, it's. Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:39:27 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, yeah, yeah. It's,
Starting point is 01:39:30 it's, it's rough around these parts. You know, but I keep, I, I'm in my room. I keep, I keep,
Starting point is 01:39:35 I keep the door closed. Yeah, I got you. Keep the door closed. Cause you know, you know, they coming in, you know,
Starting point is 01:39:42 see something they ain't supposed to see. I know, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, I've been there before. I've been there before. Yeah. Catch the old man trampolining. Hey, boy.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Ocho, let me ask you this. That's the worst feeling. Go ahead. What are you going to say, Ocho? I would just get ready to say, I know it's inappropriate. We a fan. Your kids ever called you, Ocho? Oh know it's inappropriate. We a fan. Your kids ever called you Ocho? Oh, yeah. By accident.
Starting point is 01:40:08 They called you? You think you locked the door? Did you lock the door? Yeah. You turn and you hear the squeak at the door and you stop and you pause and they just got that look. What was that goddamn door? So ass out of here, man. I got that look. What was that goddamn though?
Starting point is 01:40:27 I got caught too. I got caught too, Ocho. That's a bad feeling. Yeah. You feel really bad, man. But you know, he came in and dabbed his daddy like that. God damn, man.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Yeah. I keep telling you, boy, ain't nothing slow about your old man. It ain't nothing slow about me, but my walk got slowed down a little bit. I ain't fast like I was once, but hey. You know, man, you know, I had to smoke one of them diamonds in me too, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:40:58 Oh, yeah. Oh, man. You know, I put them bad old diamonds, Ocho, because I've been on them diamonds. I've been on them diamonds when they first came out. Yeah diamonds Ocho cause I've been on them diamonds I've been on them diamonds when they first came out yeah Ocho I'm talking about Ocho I'm talking about I was like
Starting point is 01:41:11 I gotta try that I gotta try that Ocho man the first time I'm talking about 20 the first time Ocho you were taking them things way back then you don't need it back then
Starting point is 01:41:23 Ocho Ocho you know what I'm saying way back then. You don't need it back then. Ocho, you know what I'm saying? I want to be right. Right, right, right, right. Because it's the first time, Ocho. Right, right, right. First time. You know, you got to leave that impression.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Yeah, yeah. And Ocho, I pop that thing. Yes, sir. Yeah. So, you know, Ocho, I get up to go to the bathroom. I come back. She's looking up under the bed. She's looking all in the closet.
Starting point is 01:41:47 She's walking in the hall. I said, girl, what you doing? She said, who in the hell helped you? Because there ain't no way you did that by yourself. I said, get off of me. That would be hard. I said, what you doing? I said, what you doing?
Starting point is 01:42:02 She's all up in the bed. In the closet, in the hallway. She said, somebody helped you. Ain't no way nobody knew one person did what you doing? Oh, yo. She all up in the bed. In the closet, in the hallway. She said, somebody helped you. Ain't no way no one person did what you just did. Man, you got to tip.
Starting point is 01:42:10 You got to tip. Send me a prescription. I got to get me a prescription for them things. Get that liquid. That liquid. They made that liquid a little stronger.
Starting point is 01:42:19 That thing hit you quick. On the tongue or underneath? Right up on the tongue. Where the motel is going to take about 30 to 45. Right. That liquid hit it up. Right away. Get right into the transmission.
Starting point is 01:42:35 Harder than the times of 29. What? Yeah. Y'all look at that. That's the Great Depression. That's what happened the year the great depression happened in 29 that's how hard i'm saying right all right right i'm ready i'm gonna try that i'm gonna try that oh joe if you and your friend have planned a trip
Starting point is 01:42:57 and it's 13 hours away and they want to drive whoa right down they want to drive. Whoa. Right down. They want to drive in 13 hours. Let's start down. Are you, are you wrong for wanting to fly to meet them there? Or should you like take that trip with them? I ain't taking shit. No motherfucking 13 hours, especially no goddamn drive.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Now, I don't know. Y'all should have been saving your goddamn money up so we can cut the motherfucking, we could cut the travel time in half because hell nah, 13 hours? I ain't driving shit.
Starting point is 01:43:31 I ain't driving... No. Listen, it ain't happening. I'm getting on that flight. Yeah, they already know me. Now, my brother, my brother drive 10 hours, 14 hours.
Starting point is 01:43:42 He like road trips. Some people love the scenic route I can't do it Ocho I fly from LA to San Diego that's a 10 minute flight I don't care by the time they tell you to fasten your seatbelt
Starting point is 01:44:01 by the time they give you the instruction you by the lane. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. I can't. Two hours. Now, when I was younger, I could probably do probably about four,
Starting point is 01:44:13 five hours because I would drive to Daytona, you know. But I can't now. Hell no. So you're like, okay, nah. Either I'm going to fly and meet y'all there, but are we not going? Because I'm not riding no 13 hours. That's long. Now, maybe it's, you know what?
Starting point is 01:44:30 If it's the boys, okay, let's just say it's me, Bucket, Burns, Foots, House, Croc. If it's like five, a plate, if it's about six of us, seven of us, and we in a big old like one of those uh touring buses like the job like like we're gonna like a mad bus like yeah yeah something like that okay i yeah that that that that change that changes change the narrative a little bit but
Starting point is 01:44:59 if it's just like if it's just like two of us oh hell no hell no. Hell to the no. Ocho, did you see this? In Meridian, Idaho, people waited up to eight hours, including camping overnight, for the first In-N-Out opening in Meridian, Idaho. I didn't see that, but that's expected. In-N-Out is huge. It's a huge chain, especially in LA. I've had In-N-Out before. I've i've had in and out before i've had in and out before it is very good it is very good and it pains me to even say that and even admit that knowing that my allegiance and my love for mcdonald's but in and out is very good um so i
Starting point is 01:45:39 can understand people being camped i ain't waiting it out i ain't waiting out. No? The only thing I'm waiting eight hours for is to get into heaven. That's a good one, man. That's the only thing I'm going to wait for. That's the only thing I'm going to wait for.
Starting point is 01:45:49 You know what? It ain't going to take that long because there ain't no point in getting in heaven if they don't make you wait out eight hours. I'm just going to see. He's going to have to tell me
Starting point is 01:45:57 I ain't coming in because I damn sure ain't going to leave if it's cloudy. He's going to have to tell me. It's one thing about if you're going to heaven you ain't got the way to get in there. about if you're going to heaven, you ain't got the way
Starting point is 01:46:05 to get in there. Well, you don't. Nah, you ain't got... So if I got to wait, that means I ain't going to get in there. If it's a wait... Well, he might change his mind.
Starting point is 01:46:14 You know, we change it. He might change his mind. You know, he's going to have some questions now when you get to that gate. Like... Like that joke about that lady
Starting point is 01:46:22 in that wheelchair. Talking about somebody had to kiss her. What? Oh, no, no. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. I didn't mean it like that, Lord. I didn't mean it like that. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:46:33 Oh, that was funny. Hey. Golly, that was funny. Fan questions. Ronald Williams says, my wife really loves the frames you wear. Do you have a frame line? If not, you should start one.
Starting point is 01:46:42 In the meantime, would you mind sharing where you buy them? Ronald? These frames and lenses I have on? I saw the five. What that five mean? With three zeros. Okay. Okay. I like that. That's torto five mean? With three zeros. Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:06 Okay. I like that. That's tortoise. That's tortoise. You got, that's the tortoise finish on that one. Oh, look at the whole job.
Starting point is 01:47:12 Look at the whole job. Look at the whole job. Yeah. Yeah. I see you. I see you with a tortoise finish. That's exactly what it's called. It's called tortoise.
Starting point is 01:47:22 Brent, Brian, a lovely to ask, why can't a high school player go straight to the league in football? If anyone could have done it, Adrian Peterson
Starting point is 01:47:30 could have done it. Shit. He got his head broken. He wasn't even, he wasn't even into his body yet. Well, you need, you need,
Starting point is 01:47:38 you need that lifting and maturity into the body. To develop first, man. You can't, this ain't the NBA. Man,urity. To develop first, man. You can't, this ain't the NBA. Man, them grown men. Yeah, NBA is more of a skill.
Starting point is 01:47:52 The NFL is more of a will. Now, you need to be skilled, but you need the will. That's grown men, man. That's grown men. They're grown men. And the NFL has a rule that you got to be at least 20 years of age or you got to be in the graduating class, whatever the case may be. Some people have fought it.
Starting point is 01:48:13 I think Maurice Claret tried to fight it. He ended up – I mean, he didn't win. But, nah, I don't know. I don't believe – I hate to say it couldn't happen but i'm gonna have to see it to believe it ocho yeah it's not oh ocho maybe now with there's not the physicality that it was back in the day yeah probably now and if there was a time it could happen it is definitely now because the way they've handicapped the game you damn right yeah uh Zach said Cam Newton really offended folks with
Starting point is 01:48:49 his comments on game managers versus difference makers I don't think it's taking so while what do you guys think I mean based I think Cam was entitled to his opinion I think but here's the thing when Brady said that the game and the play everybody commended him
Starting point is 01:49:04 Cam said something like oh I can't believe he said that the game and the play, everybody commended him. Cam said something like, oh, I can't believe he said that. We just got to get out. For me, Ocho, I believe you can be a good player without being elite. And I think the thing is that they play either you're elite or you're bum. And it's like, well, what about all the area in between? Can a player fall in between there? I played in the 90s and I played into the early 2000s.
Starting point is 01:49:32 Every quarterback was an elite. Every quarterback wasn't a bum. I mean, that still goes for today. I mean, we talk about it on here all the time. There are different tiers. There are tier one. You have elite. You have your elites who are the tier ones. You have your tier twos. And you have the tier tier threes that's just the way the game goes and they go and
Starting point is 01:49:49 it goes like that for every single position i'm not sure what they're all up in arms about uh cam is a former quarterback nfl quarterback at that not just a quarterback he's a former nfl nfl mvp so rookie of the year i'm sure he knows exactly what he's talking about some people are going to agree and that's that's the that's the that's the great thing about life in general when you have when you when you have a topic that that people are able to have an opinion on sometimes you can agree sometimes you're not and that's that's okay. Yeah. Ethan Rainbow said,
Starting point is 01:50:31 love the content, Unc, and Ocho. Y'all doing great things. I just want to know, your Mount Rushmore teammates you've played with, much love. Who's your Mount Rushmore teammates? Mount Rushmore teammates, but obviously I'm going to have to start with Carson Palmer.
Starting point is 01:50:43 Got to start with Carson Palmer. He's responsible for my success as far as my numbers are concerned from a statistical point. TJ Houshmanzada. TJ Houshmanzada, definitely my second. We've been together since Oregon State. We were both drafted to the Bengals. We've been friends for a very, very long time. Now, 23 years, to be exact.
Starting point is 01:51:07 Third would probably be Willie Anderson. Willie Anderson was very vital in my maturity and my maturity throughout my years with the Bengals through my ups and downs. A lot of conversations had with him to keep me in line, keep me out of trouble. Um, he was more than just a teammate and probably number five, my teammate, Mount Rushmore. Ain't no number five.
Starting point is 01:51:38 Mount Rushmore got four heads. Oh, it is? But then you're going to make a Mount Rushmore with five heads. What kind of Mount Rushmore you got? My bad. Well, shoot that. That's my fault. That's a good. Well, your Mount Rushmore ain't in South Dakota then. Where your Mount Rushmore at? He. What kind of Mount Rushmore you got? Oh, shit, my bad. That's my foe. That's a good... Well, your Mount Rushmore
Starting point is 01:51:45 ain't in South Dakota then. Where your Mount Rushmore at? He got five heads on him. My bad. That's a good foe, too. That's a real good foe. This motherfucker got a Medusa. They said Mount Rushmore, not Mount Medusa. My bad, my bad, my bad. Oh, man. Damn, this tough for me.
Starting point is 01:52:01 Remember, I played with two teams. You got to start with John. They got to be your first. Okay, I got John. But I got four Hall of Fame teammates in Denver. John, TD, Atwater, Zim. I got three Hall of Fame teammates in Baltimore. Jonathan Ogden, Ray Lewis, Rod Woodson. But who are you closer with?
Starting point is 01:52:28 Ray Woody. Yeah. So obviously I'm closer with them. I mean, I can't tell you how I'd do you Mount Rushmore, but obviously I would have had the quarterback first and then whoever I'm closest with after that. Well, I mean, well, quarterback first and then whoever I'm closest with after that. Well, I mean. Well, obviously, John got to go up there.
Starting point is 01:52:50 He got to be he got to go up there. Ray got to be up there. I mean, I got three. I got I got 14 based on all the 100th anniversary team. I mean, how many guys? How many guys can say they got four guys they play with on the 100th anniversary team four yeah you're right
Starting point is 01:53:08 I got a left tackle that was all decade in two different decades the 80s and the 90s with them Ray all decades in the 2000s Jonathan Ogden all decade in the 2000s Rod all decades in the 80s and the 90s.
Starting point is 01:53:26 That's crazy. Two defensive player of the year. MVP, two MVP. My God. It's crazy. I know. I already know. You are very fortunate. Man, prop, I would say
Starting point is 01:53:42 John Ray. Woody. Woody probably Atwater I'm closest with because he came in a year before I did I think did I play against Atwater nah hell nah
Starting point is 01:54:17 I would have ran Steve's ass over what okay I would love to see did hey rail hey baby really here what we're talking about some money baby baby rail send us a hundred dollars show him you show it come on big bang vw said hi guys love this show love. Question. Do you like your partner to really know about sports or do you prefer she, she's the stereotype of knowing nothing about sports? I mean, that's a good question.
Starting point is 01:54:55 That's a good question. I mean, the likelihood of I'm fine, I'm going to find somebody that's acknowledgeable to me, but they know a little something. They know like, okay, he scored a touchdown. Or, you know, he made that basket. You know what I'm saying? You ain't gonna say he made a shot. He made that basket.
Starting point is 01:55:12 How they get all them points? I ain't never seen no game like this. It doesn't matter. Because for the most part, they gonna be upstairs. I'm going to be downstairs because they like sound.
Starting point is 01:55:29 They like volume. They like to hear the guys, the color guys in the play-by-play. They like to hear the game. I don't. They need to hear because they don't know what I know. I don't listen to the sound because I don't want them to contaminate what i'm gonna say so and plus oh so you got to realize when we watch tape there is no sound when we watch filming there is no sound so i got used to watching with no sound so now i mean it's it's it's to hear people talk it drives me crazy to talk about the game.
Starting point is 01:56:05 I don't want to hear what you got. The only, the only sporting event that I'll listen to is track and field. That's the only sporting event I'll listen to. That's good. I mean, when I, when I think for me,
Starting point is 01:56:16 obviously every, everyone have obviously Dave, they've, they've known something. Obviously real, real knows a thing or two about the game of football. But it's pretty cool. It really didn't matter to me whether you liked it or not.
Starting point is 01:56:29 I mean, it was never a thing. But that's a good question, too. That's a good question. Some people really care about that stuff. You know that? Yeah. Yeah, of course. Of course.
Starting point is 01:56:44 Yeah. Yeah. Some people really care about that stuff. Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I like, I used to watch Bull riding. Oh, I watched PBR too. I watched PBR. You saw when I rode the Bull? Yeah. In 2010?
Starting point is 01:56:58 Yeah, I saw you get bucked off in like one second. I mean, some of them get, some of the pros get bucked off in one second too. And that wasn't any of the top bulls. That wasn't Bodacious. That wasn't Bushwhacker. That wasn't Louis Yellowjacket. That wasn't T'Hallam. I told him to let me ride Bushwhacker, and I would have dominated at my...
Starting point is 01:57:15 Bad Bushwhacker to broke your neck. You crazy. And the only reason I fell off that bull when I came out to shoot is because I wasn't used to that kind of power being up underneath me. Because there's there's no way to train for that i'm on the mechanic listen i'm on the mechanical bull i'm dominating the mechanical bull on high hey let me tell you something i ain't never seen no bull you know we ain't got no motherfucking pbr bulls out here in miami so i'm thinking i'm practicing with ty Murray, a legend, a legend. Yeah. So I'm on the mechanical bull going crazy.
Starting point is 01:57:48 And I'm like, oh, this is going to be easy. I get on the real bull in the chute for the first time. They so power. You can feel that power. He's so fucking fat. I couldn't close my damn legs. I'm like, Ty, how's pull the ride? This ain't what we practice.
Starting point is 01:58:04 My legs are wide open and I can't close them how am I supposed to get the grip to be able to you got to do your best use your spurs use your spurs on the back man fuck these spurs I can't close my legs
Starting point is 01:58:20 man Ty Murray is one of the all time great tough heateman you know Tuff Hedeman the one that when he he was on Bodacious
Starting point is 01:58:27 Bodacious had what they call a dive bomb where he would dive and then when he feel when he feel
Starting point is 01:58:33 the riders moment of shift he throw his head back and hit him right in the face yeah yeah Bodacious
Starting point is 01:58:40 and that was Sammy Andrews bull and he had to retire because he's like, he's going to hurt somebody. But Bushwacker came along. I think... I think Bush...
Starting point is 01:58:52 I think I would probably give the nod to Bushwacker. Although little... E.T. and Little Yellow Jacket. Some real deal. Tejano, yeah. They have some... I like Bushwacker. They have some bad boys back there.
Starting point is 01:59:03 I'm mad Bushwacker retired, man. I would love just to tell my kids, man, your daddy wrote a PBR book. Yo, your daddy was going to say, you know, tell your daddy you sawed on Bushwhacker's back. That's what you're going to tell your kids. You sawed on Bushwhacker's back.
Starting point is 01:59:19 Bushwhacker, they ain't nothing to play with because most of those are crossed between, you know uh they're tourists they're a brahmin you know so you want the biggest and the baddest most definitely so definitely i mean what other this this how this how i know we are the greatest greatest show of all time what other show would you be sitting up here talking about PBR Bulls and their riders? Yeah. And we know, I know sumo wrestlers like Takana Hana, Wakana Hana, Aki Bono.
Starting point is 01:59:53 Oh, you know a little something about everything. Okay. That's what I do. I don't know everything, but I know a little something about everything. I know some sumo wrestlers too. Oh, you're talking about you know tennis. You like too okay yep oh you're talking about you know tennis you like tennis oh you're talking now we're talking yeah yeah it's a very good friend of mine chris eubanks is that he's matter of fact he's in town right now he's practicing yeah obviously one of my he'll be lefty right now righty righty righty one of my favorites obviously one of the best right now very very young carlos alcaraz carlos alcaraz very very very very
Starting point is 02:00:30 yeah yeah very exciting yeah yeah but you know we grew i grew up in i grew up in in in the in the uh the 80s and the 90s when the american tennis dominated you had pete sampras you had agassi you had jim curry you had mich Chang. You had those guys. And then all of a sudden, it kind of, you know, obviously in the 80s, you had McEnroe. You had Curry. Excuse me, McEnroe and Jimmy Connors.
Starting point is 02:00:55 Jimmy. Yeah, and then, man, this you had Andy Roddick, James Blake, but man, you had a couple of John Is james blake but uh but man it's you know you had he had a couple of john ishner had his moments but when the big three burst on the yeah rail donated 300 she said the best podcast appreciate that baby boy oh boy you know you you're gonna get you some you're gonna get you some but you know but you know these guys now ojo if you look at the
Starting point is 02:01:25 tennis now ojo those guys back then those guys did a lot of serving volley they hit that smash and then come to the net and finish it off these guys play more baseline to baseline you had the sanford serving volley you had stefan edberg serving volley you had michael steke you had goran ibnisevich you had those guys i I'm talking about the big power. But you know what? Guys these days have gotten so much better. If your serve is strong enough and you have somebody that's already all the way at the back of the baseline,
Starting point is 02:01:52 all the way back at the baseline based on your serve, you could actually serve and attack the net like that. But people... But they don't. It's hard. It's hard.
Starting point is 02:02:02 Yeah, they don't serve in Bali. Even the women used to do more. The women used to do more serve in volley. Martina Navatilova was tremendous serve in volley. I mean, you look at Steffi Graf, who I don't think gets the credit that she deserves because I think she had the greatest season. Nobody's had a season like Steffi in 88
Starting point is 02:02:18 where she won the Golden Sombrero. She won all four majors, and she won the Olympic gold medal in 88. Nobody has ever done that serena came close but i think when i think about it you think about the players of today's game as we always talk about the nfl players have gotten bigger faster and stronger and everybody is a little bit more skillful i think that's why people can't play but technology also with that racket that racket is done major because that ain't the wood now that's graphite that's carbon fiber
Starting point is 02:02:45 though those a and the spin that they can put on the ball you look at those lefties you look at a raffle the doll and the way he can spin the ball he can go out of that take it up a man you know who you know those two two of my favorites gael Monfils. Yeah, Guy Monfils. And Nick Karyos. Okay, Karyos. Nick Karyos is basically like the Draymond Green of tennis. Yeah. Yeah, he is. Yeah, thank you.
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